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[QUOTE=Turgid;2440381]I bought mine in Germany. TBH I really don't know exactly what type of mask it is. I was told its good quality. I bought it just before I left Frankfurt on 18 March arriving in a chaos that you guys won't imagine. Never took it off the entire trip except to drink water. I don't know the shelf life of these things, been using it since.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2440413]I don't think anyone can offer more than anecdotal experience on this.

If I were to relate everything I have done in the past month or two since the world became aware of the magnitude of this pandemic, someone might possibly conclude one can have no holds barred sharing and ingesting of precious bodily fluids to and from a dozen or more different partners, some of whom made their living interacting daily with coffee shop, restaurant or retail shop customers by the hundreds, some of whom were involved in the business of P4P, all right here in an area of Bangkok that is ground zero for international tourism without negative impact or incident for any of us or for anyone else we know and interact with personally right up to this day.

But that can't and shouldn't be taken as proof of anything regarding the real world risks out there. Unless thousands of other such anecdotal experiences emerge and ultimately become the norm.

I haven't even had the usual slight sniffles and stuffy nose I usually get at least once or twice this time of year. Which might be the result of the general social distance efforts of late, the bar and restaurant closures, the hand sanitizing and all that.

But more than that? I have carried on as much if not more mongering as before with no noticeable downside for me or my partners.

There was this. One favorite new girl began feeling classic flu symptoms a few days ago, went to the hospital to get tested and treated, had plenty of money for both, Lined me from the ER at Sukhumvit Hospital that she was terrified, worried about possibly having "corona" and really wanted me to be there to comfort her while she waited for her test results. I went to her within the hour.

The test came out not to be Covid-19, but ordinary influenza instead. This girl has a rather active social life with many co-worker girl friends in the modeling business. No telling where she picked up that virus. But there is to this day no evidence it came from me or anyone else I have been with. And I have yet to experience symptoms of the flu she caught as well.[/QUOTE]Sheesh, and I suppose you think that the value of social distancing is only anecdotal? Or that the estimate of 25% or more of infections coming from asymptomatic carriers is purely anecdotal? Dream on.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2440388]I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.

Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.[/QUOTE]Impossible to give a guarantee that "monger banging" is at any time 100% safe. No matter how remote even practicing safe sex STD's are always a possibility, perfection as a concept does not exist, all truth is relative.

You raise a good point Turgid re a girl who is positive touching her face eyes nose or mouth and either by you later touching parts of your body she has touched and then touching your eyes nose or mouth or alternatively her touching your eyes nose or mouth there is a possibility of infection. However there are a lot of if's in there and personally I would consider it very low risk. Also washing thoroughly before and after reduces this to near zero. Incidentally another of my favorite routines cat licking, memories of Kiss. Poses these concerns to a greater degree than the circumstance you cited but again a good shower afterwards should wash away any lingering droplets. Despite the embedded begrudges we should help where we can and as always stay safe.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2440319]You mfs sitting at home horny are fucking up the game. There will not be any P4P left to come to after you guys are done. And some of you even have the nerve to think chicks are sitting home starving. No wonder chicks I have been trying to recruit have been turning their noses up at my 1000 baht LT offer.[/QUOTE]That's got to be the funniest damn post I've read in a long time. Thanks.

SS.

[QUOTE=Bigstud;2440427]Sheesh, and I suppose you think that the value of social distancing is only anecdotal? Or that the estimate of 25% or more of infections coming from asymptomatic carriers is purely anecdotal? Dream on.[/QUOTE]Disregard what I post since you don't do a very good job of comprehending and "translating" it anyway and just do what works for you. I insist. Good luck.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2440422]Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.[/QUOTE]I have been told that some people always change their underwear daily as well. I don't.

Unless you are working in a hospital, those masks can be used more than once.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2440319]You mfs sitting at home horny are fucking up the game. There will not be any P4P left to come to after you guys are done. And some of you even have the nerve to think chicks are sitting home starving. No wonder chicks I have been trying to recruit have been turning their noses up at my 1000 baht LT offer.

I came over to spend the night at a chick's place tonight. I always give her 1000 baht LT. After we fucked she told me that it has been about a month since she has fucked. I asked why. She said she has been doing cam shows.

I asked for how much. She said 1,000 to 1,500 for 10 minutes. I asked who has been giving her that kind of money. She said guys from Europe: Germany, Spain, Norway are the countries she named. She said even some guys right here in Pattaya are sending her money for camming.

She wrote something about cam on her Thai Friendly and when a guy contacts her she gives him her paypal. After they deposit the money she does a videocall on Whatsapp or Line shows them her tits and wiggles them and shit. She showed me her paypal. It was littered with 1000's, 2000's. And I even saw one for over 3000. She said she told some guy that she did not have money to pay her room. He sent her 7,000 baht. DO NOT BE THAT GUY!

P. S. While I am writing this, she just sent some dude a picture of her tit and he said it looked so good that he was about to eat his computer. We are cracking up laughing over here under this cold AC that some lonely simp is paying for.[/QUOTE]Not surprised a bit. Web cam is a huge industry and people pay 1000's to just see tits in front of their screen and wank. Don't think if they know porn exists and is for exactly this use, watch and jerk off.

Many men in the world do not have the luxury of traveling and mongering in various parts of the world for one reason or other. Ofcourse they like to have a sex GF. Easiest way for them is to send money for cam shows where a live girl shows her wares. Yes, it is true porn videos are everywhere free.

I have some friends who do cam shows and earn money. I do not blame them.

There is another category of men who just send money for the upkeep of the girl who is supposed to be their " GF" without ever meeting in person or touching her.

Third category is those who do meet but has no interest in sex if the girls story is to be believed. These maybe due to their medical conditions. All they require is some fondling.

I am sure a lot of our friends here heard lots of stories.

But the question of whether it affects the market price for us is hard to say. Maybe few girls make money by these cam shows but vast majority want sex and payment. Once again with wall to wall girls in mongering hot spots with negotiating you can do well.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2440422]Unfortunately most of the masks are single use masks. You use it one day and throw it away. There are some with changeable filters that are reusable. If you continue to use the same mask you are likely to infect yourself from your own mask if you were unlikely enough to be in a situation where you actually needed the mask and it protected you from the virus. But now the mask is contaminated and should be discarded. By continuing to use the same mask you will at least be protecting others from your infection.[/QUOTE]I've been googling face masks for more info but could not find anything on my particular face mask. However, I suspect you are correct with respect to my face mask which may be a one time use product. I will no longer be using it. In my research I found this web site which may help me as I doubt I will be able to buy one here in NYC.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/article/how-to-make-face-mask-coronavirus.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2439870]Actually, P4P contributes a minuscule amount to the GDP of both Thailand and Philippines and neither is reliant on it. Mongers always overestimate the contribution they are making to the economy (usually by a factor of 100). Legitimate, non-sexual tourism is a significant money earner, but not P4P in isolation. This is why the Thai or Philippines governments couldn't really care whether P4P exists or closes. Many of the restrictions to the hooker scene over the past 10-15 years were to appease the conservatives in the US so they could get their hands on aid money.
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Most P4P businesses are actually fronts for other illicit activities. If P4P closed, they would take those activities elsewhere.[/QUOTE]P4P is a significant contributor to GDP especially in the Philippines. No one goes there for a vacation with out P4P they are the worst hosts and the country is an uncorodination shit hole for tourists. Sorry No pussy no tourists. Thailand has a significant non mongering tourist trade however it still pays the bills and if that was not that case they would eliminate it.

Other countries are developing their P4P for the same economic benefits.

PP.

Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.

Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.

The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2440438]Impossible to give a guarantee that "monger banging" is at any time 100% safe. No matter how remote even practicing safe sex STD's are always a possibility, perfection as a concept does not exist, all truth is relative.

You raise a good point Turgid re a girl who is positive touching her face eyes nose or mouth and either by you later touching parts of your body she has touched and then touching your eyes nose or mouth or alternatively her touching your eyes nose or mouth there is a possibility of infection. However there are a lot of if's in there and personally I would consider it very low risk. Also washing thoroughly before and after reduces this to near zero. Incidentally another of my favorite routines cat licking, memories of Kiss. Poses these concerns to a greater degree than the circumstance you cited but again a good shower afterwards should wash away any lingering droplets. Despite the embedded begrudges we should help where we can and as always stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chacal60;2440671]Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.

Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.

The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.[/QUOTE]You bring up an important point. If it were only about my sexual pleasure, I could make do with just 1-2 regulars per week for the next month or so. I could use the break. And it would be even cheaper because those favorites would almost certainly be from among the ones with regular jobs and at least a partial ongoing income during these difficult times.

But when you are bombarded with pleas to meet at least once a week by every girl in an established stable of repeats or they will have "no money" (even if food will always be nearby) for an unknown period of time in the future as well as the constant reaching out by the few stray remaining FLs you're bound to encounter on your rounds to and from the market, it comes down to the obvious decision.

Do you ignore them, tough times, honey, figure it out on your own? Do you give them regular ongoing survival money for nothing? Or do you say ok, come over, we'll get takeaway food, watch netflix, relax in bed and might as well fuck at that point? Especially when they push for having sex too.

I had a first time FL over last week. Better looking than most street girls even at the best of times in the past couple of years. When I first met her a few weeks ago we did not session. But after a few brief Line chats she came around and, in my room, I offered her 2,000 for LT. To my surprise and, frankly, puzzlement, she said, with a smile, "No, 1,500 is ok."

I suppose it is possible she wanted to make sure I would be inclined to choose her over others again and again over the next few weeks. And what else did she have to do from that afternoon until the next morning anyway? The boredom relief factor again.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2440493]I have been told that some people always change their underwear daily as well. I don't.

Unless you are working in a hospital, those masks can be used more than once.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detail.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2440388]I like to think this thing through and act accordingly. The virus can be spread via saliva. Lets say the hooker has showered and heads for the bed and for whatever reason she touches her tongue with her hands and then touches parts of her body (if she coughs or sneezes I'm out of there pronto). Couldn't the virus get to you if you kiss those parts of her body? She gives you a BBBJ or even a CBJ (just came to mind) and you touch your dick or the condom, in the heat of the action couldn't you without thinking touch your mouth, nose or eyes? Her hand with even a microscopic amount of saliva on it touches her vagina then you do DATY. After BBFS or CFS you touch your dick or the condom which have been in the vagina which has microscopic amounts of her saliva as aforementioned and without thinking your hand brushes against your mouth, nose or eyes.

Not scaremongering here guys, just thinking things through. Would be grateful if anyone can give any information that would state that a monger banging a provider who has covid 19 is not guaranteed to get it from her. I'd be very happy if that were the case. I doubt there's anyone reading this who likes to monger more than me.[/QUOTE]I would assume even if you washed your hands before and after all your sexual acts, and were careful not to touch your face, there would be a high likelihood you would be infected, if the WG was indeed infected. In Spain, medical workers make up 14 percent of the infections. Healthcare workers are trained to wash their hands frequently and not touch their face, and they are still getting infected.

[QUOTE]Respiratory infections are most commonly spread through the air by viral particles in droplets from a cough or sneeze, though health workers and family members are also vulnerable to infection [b]through close physical contact [/b]with patients without good barrier protection. A study by the US National Institutes of Health showed that if the droplets fall on to a surface, the active virus is detectable for up to 24 hours on cardboard and two or three days on plastic and steel. However contaminated surfaces are not thought to be the most important transmission route. https://www.ft.com/content/ed3fb63e-41ce-11ea-bdb5-169ba7be433d[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chacal60;2440671]Two weeks ago I was tongue deep inside my Thai semi-pro honey, before and after which we were locking lips, sniffing each others necks (drives Thais wild), and of course sweating against each other as we banged. She held my covered tool between her lips for a bit before we switched up and finished in doggy.

Risky? You bet. So far so good, she and I both remain symptom free and she's so desperate for cash that she wants me in her more frequently.

The shop owner, who had opened her doors just for me, smiled and offered me hand sanitizer on arrival and as I left.[/QUOTE]Met 2 last week, have 2 lined up for this week. Taking every precaution but still risky as it can be. But I can get a different virus anytime while my tounge is deep in her mouth. I would've waited a bit more but clearly lockdown is going to stay for a while. And no vaccine in sight for almost end of this year.