American Politics

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2608692]This is also what was said by Canada back on May 5th about the beginning of the Arizona recount:

That dog and pony show went on for an extended run at great expense to Arizona taxpayers.

Where were the intentional mistakes by the Arizona County Clerk you believe were being hidden?

Will that be handled by THE NEXT Arizona AUDIT? Canada?

Wait till you read about what was written the next day, May 6th.

So Canada, what cheating was done by the democrats?

Why did the Arizona Auditors increase Joe Biden's win by an additional 360 votes when there was tons and tons of Democratic fraud that the auditors were going to find?

Where Canada? Where?[/QUOTE]Canada and Elvis are fighting to see which one of them will be crowned "King of the Short Bus".

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2608631]It took all these years for it to be confirmed that Clinton colluded with Russia, not Trump.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6X03XvxWw[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually, a researcher once hired by Clinton easily and unavoidably discovered deep and disturbing collusion between Russia and Team Trump and did the right thing by reporting it to the FBI. That was the only thing Trump's "Durham Investigation" found remotely related to Clinton after years of searching.

Collusion between Russia and Team Trump has also been a settled and accepted fact for years, tevealed by, admitted or testified to by various spokesmen for Trump such as Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone and Trump's own campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Under oath in USA courts of law.

But keep desperately trying to rewrite history with your weird loony fringe produced videos. Lol

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2608584]These are the lowest forms of persons, pressuring foreign governments to attack political opponents, spreading election lies, downplaying a pandemic with pseudo-science, orchestrating coups, stealing and grifting,[/QUOTE]Make one look fondly upon the old school republicans.

That were just good-old anti-abortion women abusers.

OG.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2608472]This is what I mean by being a dictatorial Democratic. You cheer on government when one government funded Covid and another produced it and had it spill. So if Ted Bundy helps a little old lady across the street, does that make him a good guy? The most brutal crimes in history have been committed by governments. That is something you douches seem to forget.

As for the rest of it, you are just piling on so many false analogies and straw men [b]I am not going to respond: not washing hands, not giving the polio vaccine, undercooking chicken.[/b] Who is for those things, and why are you bringing it up?[/QUOTE]Now I know why you are looking for worm medicine.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2608783]Actually, a researcher once hired by Clinton easily and unavoidably discovered deep and disturbing collusion between Russia and Team Trump and did the right thing by reporting it to the FBI. That was the only thing Trump's "Durham Investigation" found remotely related to Clinton after years of searching.

Collusion between Russia and Team Trump has also been a settled and accepted fact for years, tevealed by, admitted or testified to by various spokesmen for Trump such as Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone and Trump's own campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Under oath in USA courts of law.

But keep desperately trying to rewrite history with your weird loony fringe produced videos. Lol[/QUOTE]You really aught to realize that you seem equally as loony with your own set of conspiracy talking points. I find it hilarious to watch the left and right pounce on each other for the craziest and most bizarre interpretations of things. It's as predictable as the setting sun that no matter what your opinion will be in a particular subject, it will always be passed through the filter of your desires. You could never assume either of the left or right see things the same way, the polarization has really created some good comedy but tragedy at the same time via BLM riots and the idiots who broke into the capital. We all have a nutty lefty or righty uncle to laugh at, you just prove they are well stocked.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2608732]Canada and Elvis are fighting to see which one of them will be crowned "King of the Short Bus".[/QUOTE]I forgot to include Chris. Sorry everybody. My bad.

[QUOTE=Beans5;2608840]You really aught to realize that you seem equally as loony with your own set of conspiracy talking points. I find it hilarious to watch the left and right pounce on each other for the craziest and most bizarre interpretations of things. It's as predictable as the setting sun that no matter what your opinion will be in a particular subject, it will always be passed through the filter of your desires. You could never assume either of the left or right see things the same way, the polarization has really created some good comedy but tragedy at the same time via BLM riots and the idiots who broke into the capital. We all have a nutty lefty or righty uncle to laugh at, you just prove they are well stocked.[/QUOTE]Ok, Another Mr. False Equivalency Bothsider, please explain why every major USA economic downturn, massive USA jobs destruction, stock and housing market crash of the past 100 years, including the most recent one, occurred as the direct result of the stewardship, decisions and legislation promoted by, passed by and presided over by Republicans (but none of the historic USA jobs creation, Bull Market Runs, housing market gains, etc).

Bad Repub luck? A weird 100 years long series of "economic cycles" that mysteriously only plague Repub administrations but never Dem administrations no matter how long each Party maintains predominant federal power? A witch's curse on Repubs? Evil "liberal" mainstream media having the audacity to accuratelyreport historically crap Repub policy results and far, far superior Dem policy results?

I don't see where citing and linking actual historical data, results and facts from reputable sources...like the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics...has anything whatsover to do with the kind of loony conspiracies promoted by actual elected Repub members of Congress, The Former Guy in the WH and their devoted electoral base and supporters here.

Did you actually watch and listen to that loon on the link Smoothy just posted and to which I replied?

Of the dozens if not hundreds of supporting links I have posted on this site pertaining to politics you have never seen one from me that looked and sounded that slipshod ridiculous. I doubt you have seen any that amateurish and pathetic from anyone here posting a link to support a pro-Biden or pro-Dem point. Unless it was clearly meant as a joke.

Yet, that is quite often the kind of loony fringe junk we get from Smoothy and others on the pro-Trump/GQP, Biden/Dem-bashing side.

[QUOTE=Beans5;2608840]You really aught to realize that you seem equally as loony with your own set of conspiracy talking points. I find it hilarious to watch the left and right pounce on each other for the craziest and most bizarre interpretations of things. It's as predictable as the setting sun that no matter what your opinion will be in a particular subject, it will always be passed through the filter of your desires. You could never assume either of the left or right see things the same way, the polarization has really created some good comedy but tragedy at the same time via BLM riots and the idiots who broke into the capital. We all have a nutty lefty or righty uncle to laugh at, you just prove they are well stocked.[/QUOTE]Your "logic" is hopelessly flawed. You're comparing critics of trumpism to ultra-left rioters, yet I haven't seen a shred of evidence that anyone on this board who criticizes ultra-right wingnuts, supports any rioters on the far left. We are a voice of reason, while the wingnuts keep pushing the "steal" lunacy after all courts in the nation (65 losses so far, I believe) told them to take a hike. They keep at it even after the much-touted Ariziona recount lunatics found even more votes had been cast for Biden than previously thought and left the scene with their tail between their legs.

Did it stop the lunatics? Fuck no! Now ever-trumpers demand the recount in Texas. In Texas, which their cult leader [B]fucking won[/B]!

"Bizarre interpretations of things," huh? That wouldn't even begin to describe it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2609062]Ok, Another Mr. False Equivalency Bothsider, please explain why every major USA economic downturn, massive USA jobs destruction, stock and housing market crash of the past 100 years, including the most recent one, occurred as the direct result of the stewardship, decisions and legislation promoted by, passed by and presided over by Republicans[/QUOTE]Do you ever tired of being a one trick pony? It would help if you had more in your hip pocket than what has been demonstrated as false by myself on at least three occasions. But never underestimate the fallacy of the ad nauseam, as if you repeat something often enough, month after month in a hooker forum it's bound to come true.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2609075]Your "logic" is hopelessly flawed. You're comparing critics of trumpism to ultra-left rioters, yet I haven't seen a shred of evidence that anyone on this board who criticizes ultra-right wingnuts, supports any rioters on the far left. We are a voice of reason, while the wingnuts keep pushing the "steal" lunacy after all courts in the nation (65 losses so far, I believe) told them to take a hike. They keep at it even after the much-touted Ariziona recount lunatics found even more votes had been cast for Biden than previously thought and left the scene with their tail between their legs.

Did it stop the lunatics? Fuck no! Now ever-trumpers demand the recount in Texas. In Texas, which their cult leader [B]fucking won[/B]!

"Bizarre interpretations of things," huh? That wouldn't even begin to describe it.[/QUOTE]The trumpers will keep recounting until they get the result they want. But this [B]is not[/B] about finding out if trump won because, as imbecilic as they are, trumpers know that the former guy lost.

What trumpers really want is to go back 250 years to when the only people who could vote were:

White.

Straight.

Male.

Property owners.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2609081]Do you ever tired of being a one trick pony? It would help if you had more in your hip pocket than what has been demonstrated as false by myself on at least three occasions. But never underestimate the fallacy of the ad nauseam, as if you repeat something often enough, month after month in a hooker forum it's bound to come true.[/QUOTE]The table doesn't display correctly, but.

Statistics.

The following table compares selected results for the Democratic and Republican presidents, using the Blinder & Watson data (typically Truman's elected term through Obama's first term). The abbreviation "pp" means percentage points.

Democrats Republicans Difference.

Real GDP growth 4.33% 2.54% 1.79 pp.

Job creation rate % 2.59% 1.17% 1.42 pp.

Unemployment rate % 5.64% 6.01% 0.38 pp.

Unemployment rate change -0.83 pp +1.09 pp 1.92 pp.

Inflation rate (GDP deflator) 2.89% 3.44% 0.55 pp.

Budget deficit % potential GDP 2.09% 2.78% 0.69 pp.

Stock market S&P 500 annual return 8.35% 2.70% 5.65 pp.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2609081]Do you ever tired of being a one trick pony? It would help if you had more in your hip pocket than what has been demonstrated as false by myself on at least three occasions. But never underestimate the fallacy of the ad nauseam, as if you repeat something often enough, month after month in a hooker forum it's bound to come true.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's right, you "proved" to us that Eisenhiower's economic stewardship results were great despite presiding over THREE Recessions during his 8 years in office and producing one of the worst USA jobs creation records of all time because the cars were really cool back then and, thanks to safety net entitlements installed by Dems just prior to Eisenhower to carry Americans through the predictable Great Repub Crashes, Recessions and Massive Job Losses, some Americans could buy and keep their car payments up even during the atrocious Eisenhower economy.

I forgot. Yeah, you really got me with that one.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2609152]The table doesn't display correctly, but.

Statistics.

The following table compares selected results for the Democratic and Republican presidents, using the Blinder & Watson data (typically Truman's elected term through Obama's first term). The abbreviation "pp" means percentage points.

Democrats Republicans Difference.

Real GDP growth 4.33% 2.54% 1.79 pp.

Job creation rate % 2.59% 1.17% 1.42 pp.

Unemployment rate % 5.64% 6.01% 0.38 pp.

Unemployment rate change -0.83 pp +1.09 pp 1.92 pp.

Inflation rate (GDP deflator) 2.89% 3.44% 0.55 pp.

Budget deficit % potential GDP 2.09% 2.78% 0.69 pp.

Stock market S&P 500 annual return 8.35% 2.70% 5.65 pp.[/QUOTE]Yep, the False Equivalency Bothsiders (i. e. consistently failed Repub economic results defenders and promoters) apparently believe there is no noticeable difference between THREE Recessions in 8 years, every major economic downturn in the past 100 years (not talking about the historically brief and relatively insignificant one in 1948 and the even more brief and insignificant one purposely induced by the Fed in early 1980 to cool down an overheated economy and tame hyper inflation), every major Bear Market Crash of the past 100 years, ten consecutive months of 10%+ headline unemployment and millions of USA job losses vs NO major economic downturns begun, NO serious Bear Market Crashes, historic Bull Market Runs, historic positive USA jobs creation in the millions.

Nope. No noticeable difference between the two at all. Doesn't really matter which side you argue for, which one you vote for or who wins. Might as well flip a coin. Or just don't vote or vote for some waste of time third or fourth party candidate.

Sure, other than the radical, polar opposite mindset, philosophy, agenda, methods and, most importantly, results, there is really no difference between Repub and Dem government and economic stewardship. Debating for one side over the other with reliable supporting links, statistics and data is equally hilarious and loony.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2609111]The trumpers will keep recounting until they get the result they want. But this [B]is not[/B] about finding out if trump won because, as imbecilic as they are, trumpers know that the former guy lost.

What trumpers really want is to go back 250 years to when the only people who could vote were:

White.

Straight.

Male.

Property owners.[/QUOTE]Not sure about number 4. I would replace them with "The uneducated. " A special group of people Trump loves so much, and boy do they return the affection!

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2609152]The table doesn't display correctly, but.

Statistics.

The following table compares selected results for the Democratic and Republican presidents, using the Blinder & Watson data (typically Truman's elected term through Obama's first term). The abbreviation "pp" means percentage points.

Democrats Republicans Difference.

Real GDP growth 4.33% 2.54% 1.79 pp.

Job creation rate % 2.59% 1.17% 1.42 pp.

Unemployment rate % 5.64% 6.01% 0.38 pp.

Unemployment rate change -0.83 pp +1.09 pp 1.92 pp.

Inflation rate (GDP deflator) 2.89% 3.44% 0.55 pp.

Budget deficit % potential GDP 2.09% 2.78% 0.69 pp.

Stock market S&P 500 annual return 8.35% 2.70% 5.65 pp.[/QUOTE]It should also be pointed out that the numbers are actually better for Dems and worse for Repubs than the ones generally published by those sites. The reason being their methods usually credit GDP growth in the quarter PRIOR to an inauguration and the quarter OF the inauguration when the incoming president typically has not even done or passed anything into the system to that incoming president.

Same with the well established trajectories up or down of the unemployment rate, the stock market, inflation and the general economy ocurring at the time of an election and inauguration. They never significantly change just because an election or inauguration took place.

Naturally, that means when an incoming Dem takes over from an outgoing Repub during the usual Great Repub Crash, Recession/Depression etc, the incoming Dem's resultant statistics will be unjustly negatively effected by the crap conditions he inherited.

Likewise, when an incoming Repub takes over from an outgoing Dem during the usual stable, thriving, steadily growing Dem economic expansion during NO Crash or Recession, the incoming Repub's resultant statistics will be unjustly positively effected by the fine conditions he inherited.

That is the case with those Dem vs Repub stats as well.