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Hello ISG!

I would like to get your thoughts on bringing chica to an excursion. I would like to do either catamaran cruise or excursion to Cayo Arena from Puerto Plata, but I don't like the idea of going by myself. What is your thought on bringing a chica from a totally different ethnic and age group there? (It would be quite obvious we aren't married or in a relationship).

Is it:

1) keep your girl in the room and don't ruin other people's vacation!

2) who cares as long as you act decent with moderate PDA?

3) everyone in the boat will be like you and bring their own chicas!

Let me know. I don't expect public sex or orgy, but some kissing and hugging.

Nobody on the excursion knows you so why do you care what they think. I wife up and take chicas to movies. Casinos and many other places. It is great to have someone to share the experience with. If the girl is really hot the other guys you see will be in envious.

[QUOTE=Mander;2027265]Hello ISG!

I would like to get your thoughts on bringing chica to an excursion. I would like to do either catamaran cruise or excursion to Cayo Arena from Puerto Plata, but I don't like the idea of going by myself. What is your thought on bringing a chica from a totally different ethnic and age group there? (It would be quite obvious we aren't married or in a relationship).

Is it:

1) keep your girl in the room and don't ruin other people's vacation!

2) who cares as long as you act decent with moderate PDA?

3) everyone in the boat will be like you and bring their own chicas!

Let me know. I don't expect public sex or orgy, but some kissing and hugging.[/QUOTE]

Just tell your girl where you want to go, what you want to do there, and what you expect or hope from her in public and get her thoughts about. Ask her what her limit are or what would cause her to feel uncomfortable. Bet she is cool with most everything even slight PDA. Chances are that if your are having a good time and seeing the sights there will very little PDA anyways. Basically caught-up in the moment. Hard to say what will happen because if you are surrounded by families then everything gets toned down but if the cruise has a lot of younger couples showing PDA and such, then the expectations change accordingly. Just make sure to choose an outgoing girl versus the shy type in public.

[QUOTE=Mander;2027265]Hello ISG!

I would like to get your thoughts on bringing chica to an excursion. I would like to do either catamaran cruise or excursion to Cayo Arena from Puerto Plata, but I don't like the idea of going by myself. What is your thought on bringing a chica from a totally different ethnic and age group there? (It would be quite obvious we aren't married or in a relationship).

Is it:

1) keep your girl in the room and don't ruin other people's vacation!

2) who cares as long as you act decent with moderate PDA?

3) everyone in the boat will be like you and bring their own chicas!

Let me know. I don't expect public sex or orgy, but some kissing and hugging.[/QUOTE]In the DR and most Latin countries it's not unusual. So the vast majority of guys wouldn't care. Some women may be curious but will soon move on to other things. It's not like in the US or Europe.

However, you may still feel self conscious and that's the part, if you allow it, will impact you the most. Remember, when you are in Rome, you can certainly do what the Romans do.

In other words, if you are like most in North America, with the Looking Glass (or Mirror) Syndrome which is: " I am what you think I think I am " then it's all in your head. But you can override that with rationalizing in your head using the local social context, culture and history.

[QUOTE=Mander;2027265]Hello ISG!

I would like to get your thoughts on bringing chica to an excursion. I would like to do either catamaran cruise or excursion to Cayo Arena from Puerto Plata, but I don't like the idea of going by myself. What is your thought on bringing a chica from a totally different ethnic and age group there? (It would be quite obvious we aren't married or in a relationship).

Is it:

1) keep your girl in the room and don't ruin other people's vacation!

2) who cares as long as you act decent with moderate PDA?

3) everyone in the boat will be like you and bring their own chicas!

Let me know. I don't expect public sex or orgy, but some kissing and hugging.[/QUOTE]I've been watching this post for a few days so let me chime in. I've spent many a day sitting on the beach watching these excursions. Mostly foreigners and usually groups. Euro chicas in a group looking for a nice boat ride where they can show off their new bikinis, or guys just getting away from the girls to drink beer and fish and talk shit. Very few couples unless its something light. With that said going alone might open you up to more opportunities like a group of girls befriending the single guy or the guys hanging out. Remember, Dominican girls can't swim, I sit on the beach all day watching them and they barely go in water waist deep. Give them a pool and they stay in the shallow end. Everybody watches the single guy to try and figure him out.

Bringing a chick might make problems if she is not cool.

I'm trying to figure out why, if you're in the DR where the girls give you all the affection you need for almost nothing, would you take one on an excursion involving deep water? Go solo. I see all the time guys coupled up with euro girls and all those fine Dominican girls running around looking you up and down. Stay solo and have fun and let the opportunity open up to you. As they say, don't take sand to the beach bro. You never know, maybe the female excursion instructor might decide to take the solo tourist on a personal tour to enhance your vacation. This is how it happens in the DR when you roll solo.

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[QUOTE] Remember, Dominican girls can't swim, I sit on the beach all day watching them and they barely go in water waist deep. Give them a pool and they stay in the shallow end. [/QUOTE]Actually that is not really true. I have been swimming with Dominican chicas in the rivers in the interior of the island and a lot of them can swim very well. In the campo spending time in swimming holes in the cooling rivers is a favorite way for teens and children to pass hot summer days. You have to learn to swim, because the river beds are so rocky and slippery, that it is dangerous to stand and wade. I also remember seeing chicas at Blackbeards many years ago diving headfirst into the pool with long dreadlocks flying, chicas swimming in the big pool at Puerto Plata Beach club, and many Dominicans of all ages swimming in the pools at the various apartment complexes I used to live at in Sosua. I have also known several Haitian chicas who can swim. They usually say they learned in rivers.

However, I am sure that you are right about many chicas, especially pros, not wanting to get their hair wet.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2028179]Actually that is not really true. I have been swimming with Dominican chicas in the rivers in the interior of the island and a lot of them can swim very well. In the campo spending time in swimming holes in the cooling rivers is a favorite way for teens and children to pass hot summer days. You have to learn to swim, because the river beds are so rocky and slippery, that it is dangerous to stand and wade. I also remember seeing chicas at Blackbeards many years ago diving headfirst into the pool with long dreadlocks flying, chicas swimming in the big pool at Puerto Plata Beach club, and many Dominicans of all ages swimming in the pools at the various apartment complexes I used to live at in Sosua. I have also known several Haitian chicas who can swim. They usually say they learned in rivers.

However, I am sure that you are right about many chicas, especially pros, not wanting to get their hair wet.[/QUOTE]You are probably right that they don't want to get their hair wet. Maybe I got to take a trip to the campo and go river swimming. Are these rivers clean? And where are they located? Sounds like fun as long as it's healthy. Are there undercurrents? And what other problems should we be looking for before jumping in.

My family had a boat and beach house in Eagle Harbour Maryland that we would spend time visiting. But my best swimming memories were going to the recreation center in Tacoma park and swimming all morning during the summer. The deep end was 15 feet and the challenge was to dive in and retrieve a quarter. Also my Navy years were good, so I love anything that has to do with swimming and the ocean.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2028190]You are probably right that they don't want to get their hair wet. Maybe I got to take a trip to the campo and go river swimming. Are these rivers clean? And where are they located? Sounds like fun as long as it's healthy. Are there undercurrents? And what other problems should we be looking for before jumping in.

My family had a boat and beach house in Eagle Harbour Maryland that we would spend time visiting. But my best swimming memories were going to the recreation center in Tacoma park and swimming all morning during the summer. The deep end was 15 feet and the challenge was to dive in and retrieve a quarter. Also my Navy years were good, so I love anything that has to do with swimming and the ocean.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]In 2008 I was in this place [URL]http://www.macorisserie23.com/guia-turistica/ecoturismo/la-fuente-de-oro.html[/URL] with some motoconchos and a girl working at the bar in Hotel Plaza Real in Juan Dolio. I don't know if there is a road nowadays to the place, but we went there with motos and had to walk the last half mile.

The water is cool, clean and crystal clear, because it comes from under water fountains and it is connected to the river by a narrow stream. Had a great day with wonderful people in this piece of paradise (the girl didn't swim).

I agree with you. It's usually better to consider the girl's wishes, within reason of course (Western Union and insane expenditures are off limits for me at least). If a GFE experience is the goal, that is one of the best ways to get to it. It's also emotionally healthy.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2027481]Just tell your girl where you want to go, what you want to do there, and what you expect or hope from her in public and get her thoughts about. Ask her what her limit are or what would cause her to feel uncomfortable. Bet she is cool with most everything even slight PDA. Chances are that if your are having a good time and seeing the sights there will very little PDA anyways. Basically caught-up in the moment. Hard to say what will happen because if you are surrounded by families then everything gets toned down but if the cruise has a lot of younger couples showing PDA and such, then the expectations change accordingly. Just make sure to choose an outgoing girl versus the shy type in public.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nordico;2028605]In 2008 I was in this place [URL]http://www.macorisserie23.com/guia-turistica/ecoturismo/la-fuente-de-oro.html[/URL] with some motoconchos and a girl working at the bar in Hotel Plaza Real in Juan Dolio. I don't know if there is a road nowadays to the place, but we went there with motos and had to walk the last half mile.

The water is cool, clean and crystal clear, because it comes from under water fountains and it is connected to the river by a narrow stream. Had a great day with wonderful people in this piece of paradise (the girl didn't swim).[/QUOTE]Thanks much bro, on my list to do this summer.

You are dealing with women who do not have hot water in their homes. When you take them to your world this is the vivo rico. They love what is being provided because they could never afford it. Trust me anything you want to do they we love it. You are not dealing with spoil american women. The Golden rule you got the gold so you rule.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2028622]I agree with you. It's usually better to consider the girl's wishes, within reason of course (Western Union and insane expenditures are off limits for me at least). If a GFE experience is the goal, that is one of the best ways to get to it. It's also emotionally healthy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2029163]You are dealing with women who do not have hot water in their homes. [/QUOTE]I have had several women, who would much rather shower in cold water, while I shuddered at the very thought. So much for the magic (or elitism) of hot water, LOL!

[QUOTE=OldKool;2029163]You are dealing with women who do not have hot water in their homes. When you take them to your world this is the vivo rico. They love what is being provided because they could never afford it. Trust me anything you want to do they we love it. You are not dealing with spoil american women. The Golden rule you got the gold so you rule.[/QUOTE]A few things to note. I have no dispute over whether or not any women you speak of or in general, love what is being provided to them by a man. But I will say this. Just because women may love certain provisions, that doesn't automatically mean they APPRECIATE what has been provided or the INDIVIDUAL that provided it. and in fact, in enough instances women dont appreciate what they have not earned or worked for. And see enough of men as suckers, without letting on that they see the man that way.

Enough of these women we deal with under certain circumstances, are basically takers. Live in receive mode (non reciprocal). It's usually us men that see these women through our own rose colored glasses in regards to what we have provided, and our assumed belief in their reaction to it. Sure a woman can enjoy and love the bennies she is exposed to while dealing with a guy. They can take all a man feels inclined to offer. But when all is said and done, none of what may have been bestowed to them was necessarily appreciated or garner any favor or respect towards the provider.

What many men find themselves doing is thinking they rule because they have the gold. When what might be more accurate, is many of these women are allowed to indirectly rule the ones "ruling" with the gold.

[QUOTE=Mander;2023413]Well, which is the reason I am inquiring wisdom from this board.

I normally lurk German FKK board and posted some, if you think I'm trolling. I usually budget $3 k-4 k to visit 2-3 FKKs and do 8-10 girls over 3 nights itinerary.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]LOL. Twice of what I spent on my entire 9 day vacation in Thailand (airfare included) for the same amount of girls, plus a beach and ancient ruins and the best food in the world for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I spent 9 days in Berlin in late 2015, and it was also about the same price, though half as many girls.

Don't get me wrong. I love Germany. I used to live there briefly and I know the country well: well enough to know that except for Artemis in Berlin, these clubs are located in places of no interest to anyone, including the locals. Usually an offbeat section of town, in a largely industrial NRW. And Berlin is too full of traditional brothels (more than 60, I have read) and cheap freelancers to blow money in an overpriced FKK. I rented a room in Berlin where there was a day brothel just three doors down, and an evening brothel 3 blocks over. Same East European girls as in the FKKs, but no cover, just some overpriced beer.

But, I always concluded that the FKK scene is for the more challenged mongers, who have to have it lined up before them in their comfort zone. Its that convenience that you pay for, but the rest of us will never need. It seems for some that FKKs are the only way to monger, but for me it would be the worst and most inconvenient way to monger in Germany.