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[QUOTE=Nounce;2596055]Does the same chick charge the same amount before she has a sizable followers?[/QUOTE]If she's very attractive she's still starting at a higher price than normal even if she has only 5 k followers. These girls know their looks are their currency, it's ingrained in them as they grow up.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2596055]Does the same chick charge the same amount before she has a sizable followers?[/QUOTE]Agreed. The price is simply what the chica thinks she can get away w. This might have no correlation with how beautiful you think she has. And even less w how good she will be in a session.
For me the only rational rating iis to score the whole experience. How she made you feel. That includes her sexual abilities, personality, mannerisms, and your subjective valuation of her appearance.
Ranking a girl on looks alone is not only subjective, but utterly pointless.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2596230]Agreed. The price is simply what the chica thinks she can get away w. This might have no correlation with how beautiful you think she has.[/QUOTE]Wrong. The price is what a customer is willing to pay for a good or a service. Do you know why a hot girl in demand won't negotiate her rate? Because she knows she can get the price she wants. There is plenty of guys out there who would gladly pay her rate.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2596230]Ranking a girl on looks alone is not only subjective, but utterly pointless.[/QUOTE]But it simply isn't so. In spite the popular phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," a number of cross cultural studies find substantial agreement in what constitutes physical attractiveness. Dismissing it all as "relative" or "subjective" makes for good chit chat, but the issue is far more complicated.
"While individual and cross-cultural differences exist (see later), this politically correct view of beauty is to some extent false. In fact, agreement between individuals is one of the best-documented and most robust findings in facial attractiveness research since the 1970's. Across many studies it has been found that there is a high degree of agreement from individuals within a particular culture and also high agreement between individuals from different cultures (see (2) for a meta-analytical review). If different people can agree on which faces are attractive and which are not attractive when judging faces of varying ethnic background (e. G. 23), then this suggests that people everywhere are all using the same, or at least similar, criteria in their judgements."
[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2596236]Wrong. The price is what a customer is willing to pay for a good or a service. Do you know why a hot girl in demand won't negotiate her rate? Because she knows she can get the price she wants. There is plenty of guys out there who would gladly pay her rate.[/QUOTE]That is essentially true, and if no one does pay her rate, she'll either lower it or have no business.
[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2595971]We are talking about looks not followers. Instamodel is a term used to reference hot girls. You'll casually hear the term. The point is, objectively attractive women can weed out guys and find the best offer. This goes for pros and nonpros.[/QUOTE]I think the intelligence of many of these girls is often way over rated. It's assumed that because she can afford makeup, a trip to the hair stylist, and a "replica" designer purse that she's a good business person, but very few are. Your typical one goes from one crisis to the next and never makes it out of Manrique or Bello. She'd rather sit at home and watch nouvellas than lower her rate 50 mil below what she imagines she is worth. In fact she might not even read her work related messages while she has a few hundred pesos in her pocket, then the rent comes due, her dog gets sick, and it's back in crisis mode again. Meanwhile there's no shortage of pussy starved Americans putting her on a pedestal, paying very much inflated prices by local standards for bad to mediocre service.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2596236]Wrong. The price is what a customer is willing to pay for a good or a service. Do you know why a hot girl in demand won't negotiate her rate? Because she knows she can get the price she wants. There is plenty of guys out there who would gladly pay her rate.[/QUOTE]Many would rather go without than take less than what the last sucker gave them, which becomes the amount she comes to think she is worth. And the majority only work at all when they feel like they need to. Few ever make it out of the barrios.
I jury-rigged up this exhaust fan to blow out the marijuana smoke my chicas create. I cut the elastic strings off of a tapaboca or throw-away face mask, and used the sheer curtain to make the chute. Then I pull the regular curtain around their back when they smoke at the window. Works great.
I don't smoke anything. Or drink. I have a normal BMI, take no regular Rx meds, normal BP, cholesterol, fasting glucose. I don't use Viagra except on "special" occasions, have used one so far this trip. I go the gym one-two times a week in the states but haven't been since I arrived here. Lots of walking here in Medellin which I love, but I will find a gym soon. I am in excellent health and I plan on staying that way. Keep On Keepin' On!
First two chica fotos from this morning. Given the time of day, kinda easy to figure out who it is. I think I posted the bows foto before, but it's a shout out this time to the fellow monger who PM'd this morning. Coo. And panitos, one of my and mi chicas favorita cosas. Always on hand. I give both those chicas a "nine" jeje.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2596133]Yet, frequently, objectively attractive women fail miserably at weeding out guys and finding the best offer. This goes for pros and nonpros.
What many guys fail to understand is that the woman you see looks nothing at all like the woman she sees when she looks in the mirror. There are attractive women everywhere who think they're too fat, too thin, too tall or too short. [/QUOTE]That is a good point, and there is so much more wrong with what guys are saying. Yes, a girl may be a 10 and think she is a 5. The term "best offer" would be offensive to most women. So many women are looking for men who make them feel good not give them the "best offer."
I do not care how much money you throw at a woman if she does not feel safe, she is not going to act on it. If you make a non-pro feel like a working girl, it will not matter how much money you throw at her either.
For hookers, marital status does not matter. For women who are non-pros it does, and you have to look at the long term. At that, it is not the guy's looks or money that matters but his character.
A Colombian professional can make a lot more money in the USA. The therapist I dated would make $70,000 more a year in the USA and $2 million over her lifetime. Her goals are going to be different than a woman looking for her next line.
And then there is understanding the woman. The idea that "I gave you a lot of money and you should be happy" is the ultimate amateur move. Not only do you need to know what makes a woman happy when they tell you, you have to know it even when they do not if you have game.
There are no wage differences in the Western world. Yes, women make less money but that is only because they put personal happiness above a higher wage more than men do.
From the male perspective, the notion that a woman has a lot of Instagram followers may make her seem more popular until you realize that you can pay for followers. There are also a massive amount of switching apps where you follow me and I follow you even if you do not know each other. Even famous people have a number of fake followers. But men who do not know this may be tempted to pay more.
I met a Venezuelan beauty in Mexico with 220,000 followers, and they were real because I offered to buy her more, and she refused. Even with that many followers, she was dead broke at the time. There are very, very few women making money off only fans or social media.
How much of what you do out of your life is for money? How much is because you like hanging around a person? Or you do something of value out of respect, loyalty, or friendship? Doing things just for the money is typically draining on a person.
When guys only value sexual looks and performance (a john mentality) and think women only value money (think all women are hos) they lose out on the best times and best sex.
You do not have to be in love with a woman to have the best sex but she better want to please you and for reasons other than just money. There is a limit on how good hooker sex can be.
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Now, I want a girl like the one in Elvis's photo--that to me is a 9. Close to a 10.
Send her my way, Elvis![/QUOTE]I would love to try her out too!) she is hot) she is probably no longer on SA, haven't seen her. And I'm working SA every single day.
[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2596223]If she's very attractive she's still starting at a higher price than normal even if she has only 5 k followers. These girls know their looks are their currency, it's ingrained in them as they grow up.[/QUOTE]Have you ever actually met a woman? I'm not trying to be offensive, but the statements you keep making indicate you have little or no experience with women. It's not limited to prostitutes, it's most women. They are insecure about their looks. That insecurity is ingrained in them as they grow up.
Turn on a television. What do you see? Beautiful women with perfect bodies who spend 4 hours daily with a personal trainer, who have all their meals planned by a professional nutritionist, and who spend at least 2 hours with a professional makeup artist before going on camera. Then the commercials come on telling them their hair is wrong, their skin is wrong, their clothes are wrong and their body is wrong. Guys have it easy. All we need is a beer and an erection and we're damn near perfect.
Pick up any women's magazine. From cover to cover it's filled with ads and articles pointing out all their deficiencies. It's no wonder so many women are neurotic.
Women who are selling their bodies set the price based upon how much they think they can get and how badly they need the money. They make adjustments for several things, but the main factor isn't because they think they are prettier than some other girl.
None of that matters if you understand that you can set the price, within reason. Just because she's quoting a high number doesn't mean you have to pay it. You give her back the price you're willing to pay. She either accepts it, or you thank her for her time and walk away. Usually you'll find her offering a lower price, if not immediately, then later when her prospects are dim.
Of course, if you have convinced yourself that your only option is to pay her price, or that she's worth whatever she's asking, you're stuck with paying her price.
[QUOTE=Tasss;2596164]Scrolled through 30 pages without anyone mentioning actual FB prices girls accepted, so I thought I'd ask directly. Last time I went in 2019, girls are usually 150 k and a few asked for 200 k which I never paid for. Are prices still pretty much the same or increased?[/QUOTE]Been there a month ago. Tried it with fb with exactly 0 success. Probably more to do with me being lazy and only investing not even 10 hours on facebook. Tbh tho when I pay for hookers that should be plenty of invested time.
I never had success offering 150 k, most asking 200 k and upwards or they lost interest. Same shit in Parque Lleras really altho I got lucky two times there, a vennie for 75 k and a very good girl for 200 k for 3 h each.
Lots of idiots overpaying but meh, can still go parque Botero for some affordable non inflated hookers.
I hope you get luckier than me brother.
[QUOTE=Tasss;2596164]Scrolled through 30 pages without anyone mentioning actual FB prices girls accepted, so I thought I'd ask directly. Last time I went in 2019, girls are usually 150 k and a few asked for 200 k which I never paid for. Are prices still pretty much the same or increased?[/QUOTE]You must've skimmed very quickly as FB prices have been mentioned several times in this thread. Most are asking for 150 k + taxi or 200 k all-in.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2596236]Wrong. The price is what a customer is willing to pay for a good or a service. Do you know why a hot girl in demand won't negotiate her rate? Because she knows she can get the price she wants. There is plenty of guys out there who would gladly pay her rate.[/QUOTE]When I wrote "price", I meant asking price. No girl will negotiate if she can get her asking price with sufficient regularity, "hot" or not. Also many girls are unable to set their own price bcos they are subject to "house" prices.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2596245]But it simply isn't so. In spite the popular phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," a number of cross cultural studies find substantial agreement in what constitutes physical attractiveness. Dismissing it all as "relative" or "subjective" makes for good chit chat, but the issue is far more complicated.
[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/[/URL][/QUOTE]Well, I thought we were discussing the physical beauty of girls. Your report narrows it down to facial features, which is very different. There may be more conformity on facial attrractiveness than on overall beauty, firstly bcos there are far fewer important variables. Even in Colombia, it is often thought that locals prefer much bigger units than many visitors do. In my home country, obesity is preferred in some cultures. Tall / short, skinny / fat / curvy / athletic, big / small attachments. Far more variety and subjectivity.
I stand by my point.