Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2596245]But it simply isn't so. In spite the popular phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," a number of cross cultural studies find substantial agreement in what constitutes physical attractiveness. Dismissing it all as "relative" or "subjective" makes for good chit chat, but the issue is far more complicated.

"While individual and cross-cultural differences exist (see later), this politically correct view of beauty is to some extent false. In fact, agreement between individuals is one of the best-documented and most robust findings in facial attractiveness research since the 1970's. Across many studies it has been found that there is a high degree of agreement from individuals within a particular culture and also high agreement between individuals from different cultures (see (2) for a meta-analytical review). If different people can agree on which faces are attractive and which are not attractive when judging faces of varying ethnic background (e. G. 23), then this suggests that people everywhere are all using the same, or at least similar, criteria in their judgements."

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/[/URL][/QUOTE]First of all, it's not a study. That is a literature review article, and clearly you are not well versed in the field. I used to do invited peer reviews for scientific and medical journals. You are in way over your head on this. Allow me to assist you.

The paper proves nothing. It is in a journal about "philosophy" which technically is not a science. Your "study" would not pass the muster to be published any reputable scientific peer reviewed journal. To prove the point you seem so earnest to make, you would need a double blinded, placebo controlled, randomized trial that gave observer responses to a sufficient sample size of different girls in a social setting comparable to mongering and used the same kind of scoring system we are talking about here on this board, basically a one to ten scale.

Obviously, this paper is not even close to that. I glanced at the citations and I am not going to spend my time looking up all those other papers for you, but again, nothing has been proven. In fact to quote your own paper, "exactly what it is that makes a face beautiful remains poorly defined." And as another monger here pointed out, the study was about faces only and not overall attractiveness.

It takes more than a Google search and a single article to prove anything of worth. In fact, the majority of all published "studies" are garbage. If you want to make a huge stretch, sure you could argue and say some people are generally found more attractive than others but that by no means makes a girl who one monger thinks is an 8 or 9, automatically and 8 or 9 for everyone. I don't think anyone would argue that point, so even your most basic supposition about the topic, goes nowhere fast.

I am done with this topic and I am sending it after a quick write. You may certainly have the last word if you wish.

Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2596164]Scrolled through 30 pages without anyone mentioning actual FB prices girls accepted.[/QUOTE] I don't think there is a standard price across the board. Just try to negotiate the best you can. I had paid 250 already in 2019

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2587284]You am in MDE next week. One FB girl told me 200. I sent her the 'siempre pago 150 kcop' ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2586754]Write this down:

Siempre pago 150 mil mas taxi.

I always pay 150 k plus taxi.

That not only informs them what you pay, but it tells them you've done this before.

If they refuse to budge you can reply:

Te entiendo, est bien. Gracias por tu tiempo.

I understand you and it's okay. Thanks for your time.

If they come down to 200 k you can negotiate to not add any for the taxi.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HadWard;2596353]There is nothing wrong in this Question. I am already vaccinated please watch news even vaccinated people are getting covid. If you suddenly need to come to united states for urgent work what you will do just quarantine yourself for 14 days and then take care of it. Every lecture others when it come to them they won't follow it. If you know it answer it. Even vaccinated people can easily spread virus to others so you won't travel and save everyone? So stop lecturing.[/QUOTE]There's definitely something wrong with the question. Let me rephrase the question for you and maybe you can figure it out.

Is there some way to do something you know is illegal and potentially deadly to other people, in order to avoid being inconvenienced?

It happened to me. Are you clear on that? I posted several times about it, while I was quarantined in a hotel room in Bogota. It was an expensive experience. Not only did I have to pay for an expensive hotel room, I had to spend the money for expensive room service and I had to miss 2 additional weeks of work, which was a big financial drain. To make things worse, my boss was in a panic because he had no way to cover for me.

I was fully vaccinated. At the time I got infected nobody was talking about breakthrough infections. Now everyone knows that vaccinated people can get infected, can get sick and can spread the disease.

However, vaccinated people (or unvaccinated people) who are not infected can't spread the virus to other people, because they aren't infected with the virus. Infected people, vaccinated or not need to quarantine.

Anyone who fails to understand that has no business going anywhere without a responsible adult to take care of him.

There are tons of girls that are insecure about their looks but there are many others that know what they are worth. There are girls who walk into a room and all the guys and some girls stare at them. Girls get asked for dates walking down the street, going shopping, waiting in line.

Then there is confidence gained the stupid way. So many girls believe that the high number of friends on Facebook or followers on Instagram means something but is 100% BS.

Hey guys,

Trying to plan an action packed trip with Medellin, Cartagena and.

Bogotá! Wondering if it's better to go to la Isla and Fase dos during the week or if it's worth waiting for the weekend. I know in Bogotá Santa Fe is much better on weekends. Where would you spend one weekend?

Any tips on the best massage parlours or other spots worth hitting up. I will stop by gusto to check the scene there. What are the best hotels or airbnbs that are girl friendly these days?

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2595713]The Metro is fast, cheap and convenient. I would avoid it during morning and evening rush hour peak times. Recently took the Metro to San Javier and then the cable car to La Aurora past Comuna 13. It was a nice day and the views of the city were nice. Kind of spent the day on the local scene far away from Gringos. Nice chicas on the Metro. Exploring Medellin is fun. Met a few girls out and about.[/QUOTE]The Metro is mostly an untold story of Medellin on this board IMO. World class. There are only a handful of metro systems that integrate overhead cable cars in the world, and Medellin is adding more. Your sixty cents ride up to San Javier could be a $25 tourist attraction in a lot of places. The real estate here is the inverse of the United States. The higher up the side of the mountain you go, the lower the rent. Steeper is Cheaper. My novia used to live in a Strata 2 casa that had a view of the valley that would have cost a million bucks anywhere in the USA and her rent was $103 USD per month.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2595686]No idea if this chick is a 3, 7, or 11. All I know is that she came over this morning for a couple of hours for 150,000. She walked through the door, dropped to her knees, and started sucking my dick. Then she asked me if I wanted a massage. Then after the massage she fucked the brakes off of me and went to get a hot washcloth when we finished. Then she came and cuddled up next to me.

This chick was definitely one of the best GFEs ever. She had a very bubbly personality. She is smart as hell. Psychology student. Spoke good English and was telling me Albert Einstein quotes and shit. I was stunned. When we left out, she did not count the money. She just gave me a big kiss. Fuck repeating. I am thinking about marrying her, regardless of her being a 4 or 6.[/QUOTE]I've let a few slip thru my fingers that I shouldn't have. You obviously had a great run. Maybe it's time.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2596388]You must've skimmed very quickly as FB prices have been mentioned several times in this thread. Most are asking for 150 k + taxi or 200 k all-in.[/QUOTE]I suppose "most" will come for that. It depends on a few things. Quite a lot of girls won't come for that. If a girl that was last month working in a cheap club or centro then gets a FB account 150 might seem like a lot of money. But there are quite a lot of girls out there that think they are a higher level. Maybe they are maybe not, but perception is reality. Another game the newer guys might not realize they are a pawn in is when the girl agrees to 150 but is sifting through her offers to see who might be willing to pay more. You might think you have a date with her but by the time tomorrow night arrives she has disappeared or is online but doesn't answer. There's no doubt that over time one can develop a list of decent girls that will come for 150-200 but it's also worth reminding ourselves that when asking a very good looking girl to come for $50 US she might consider it slightly presumptuous that being a complete stranger you think gifting her $50 US is a grand gesture. Just don't be disappointed if some girls you wish you could be with don't think 150 is a big deal.

If a girl starts at 300 and you negotiate down to 150 she's going to see you as a hit and run and probably only comes if she's in need, has a deadline, is behind on rent, a sick child. It's true that there are a lot of girls that come for 150 ish, I'm not disputing that. But higher quality girls are out there and 150 won't buy them much and they know by the time they get home and have made a couple of stops on the way they will have nothing when they get home. Also, a mediocre girl might be friends with a girl that can command a higher price, and is worth it, and her friends shares that some guys pay her 500 k or more and the mediocre friend mistakenly thinks that's the price she should be asking.

Last trip a girl I had wanted to be with for a while started at 300 with restrictions and I was turned off immediately. I believe she said something about 300 for an hour. If it doesn't sound like a good time it probably won't be.

Did I read correctly even Fase Dos is asking close to 300 now? I think the number I read was 280. Now that seems out of the question for the level of girl my last visits.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2596388]You must've skimmed very quickly as FB prices have been mentioned several times in this thread. Most are asking for 150 k + taxi or 200 k all-in.[/QUOTE]Hey friend,

But if I like to take her in my apartment for 2 hours how much the I ave to pay her (around)?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2596420]Well, I thought we were discussing the physical beauty of girls. Your report narrows it down to facial features, which is very different. There may be more conformity on facial attrractiveness than on overall beauty, firstly bcos there are far fewer important variables. Even in Colombia, it is often thought that locals prefer much bigger units than many visitors do. In my home country, obesity is preferred in some cultures. Tall / short, skinny / fat / curvy / athletic, big / small attachments. Far more variety and subjectivity.

I stand by my point.[/QUOTE]But what good is a girl with a real or fake big booty a guy likes if her face is ugly or so so? The face is an extremely important variable. And yes, as the study demonstrated there's plenty of conformity in judgements on facial attractiveness even across cultures, and across some pretty sophisticated measures, thus judgements on physical attractiveness in general aren't "entirely subjective" as you claimed. Read the study.

I stand by my point.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2596681]I suppose "most" will come for that. It depends on a few things. Quite a lot of girls won't come for that. If a girl that was last month working in a cheap club or centro then gets a FB account 150 might seem like a lot of money. But there are quite a lot of girls out there that think they are a higher level. Maybe they are maybe not, but perception is reality. Another game the newer guys might not realize they are a pawn in is when the girl agrees to 150 but is sifting through her offers to see who might be willing to pay more. You might think you have a date with her but by the time tomorrow night arrives she has disappeared or is online but doesn't answer. There's no doubt that over time one can develop a list of decent girls that will come for 150-200 but it's also worth reminding ourselves that when asking a very good looking girl to come for $50 US she might consider it slightly presumptuous that being a complete stranger you think gifting her $50 US is a grand gesture. Just don't be disappointed if some girls you wish you could be with don't think 150 is a big deal.

If a girl starts at 300 and you negotiate down to 150 she's going to see you as a hit and run and probably only comes if she's in need, has a deadline, is behind on rent, a sick child. It's true that there are a lot of girls that come for 150 ish, I'm not disputing that. But higher quality girls are out there and 150 won't buy them much and they know by the time they get home and have made a couple of stops on the way they will have nothing when they get home. Also, a mediocre girl might be friends with a girl that can command a higher price, and is worth it, and her friends shares that some guys pay her 500 k or more and the mediocre friend mistakenly thinks that's the price she should be asking..[/QUOTE]Your thresholds sound about right to me. I don't know about Fase Dos. Sounds like a padded bra.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2596164]Scrolled through 30 pages without anyone mentioning actual FB prices girls accepted, so I thought I'd ask directly. Last time I went in 2019, girls are usually 150 k and a few asked for 200 k which I never paid for. Are prices still pretty much the same or increased?[/QUOTE]Something I learned is the price is what you are wiling to pay. I know of girls that don't charge a lot maybe 80 k for sex but you are not priority and you cannot splurge money or they will charge more. The same girl got gringos paying her 400-500 k a pop. But it takes time and you need to know the culture and Spanish and don't act like a tourist from a rich country.

I have had some truly beautiful women in my life and get it that there is usually a marked difference between their beauty and their performance.

I like others have had a 6 that after spending a few hours with them became an 8 or better and also have had a truly 8 or arguably a 9 (Moscow in 1994 and Czech Republic circa 1998 and Rio circa 2001) and would never even think of a repeat as their was little connection on any level with them, but it was fun.

So there is always talk about the rating 1 to 10 and I see some photos that have been posted on these boards in the past 15 years or so and the comments that go along with them as I too have posted many photos of women from my adventures but it is time for a reality check for all of us.

Here is the baseline, it is the Victoria Secret women, undoubtedly every one is a 10. So using this as the benchmark we all need to reset out view of what a 10 is, myself included.

Here in Medellin over the past 10 years I have encountered a handful of beautiful women, probably 3 that have stood out in 10 years and maybe close to a thousand encounters.

So using the new VS as a baseline the best most beautiful woman I have been with in the all of Colombia has been at best an 8 on the scale.

Typically I weekly have a few 5's, a few others who are 6 to 7's and seldom an 8 and never ever a 9 or above and this is in 10 years and a thousand encounters including the clubs, the mall, the FB chicas, the high end clubs and discos and everywhere else including the elite clubs / bars of high end Bogota bars.

As this VS photo shows that to be a 10 is a complete anomaly as you need height, above 5'-10" minimum, lean body / MBI, shapely legs and body with a perfectly symmetrical face. There are perhaps a few thousand women in the whole planet of 8 billion people who fall into this category. This is what is needed to be a 10.

Much love and respect to all! Now I return you all to the normal broadcast, just keep in mind the new reference point.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2596681]
Did I read correctly even Fase Dos is asking close to 300 now? I think the number I read was 280. Now that seems out of the question for the level of girl my last visits.[/QUOTE]I think the writing is on the wall for a while now. The price increase is happening segment by segment. It is like US real estate, El Centro will be the last to see price increase. The pros will move to a different segment if they know they can make more money.

Based on this logic, one can find a instagram model before she is a model, and before she knows how to use makeup and digital media at much lower price. I am not saying all girls need makeup but some being posted here do.

[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2596530]Wondering if it's better to go to la Isla and Fase dos during the week or if it's worth waiting for the weekend. I know in Bogot Santa Fe is much better on weekends. Where would you spend one weekend?[/QUOTE]La Isla is much more comfortable, nicer. I would go to both for the first time. You can go to Fase Dos first, go to La Isla if you don't like it, or go to La Isla at different night.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2590660] Hotel Haven is chica friendly as are Energy Living apartments on Airbnb but they were expensive and I did not like them.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2590419]
For apartments in Laureles San Peter apartments is a good choice. You can find them listed on [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] and other booking sites. They are chica friendly and convenient, with banks, restaurants and a grocery store nearby.

For hotels, as per Osteoknot, Ayenda hotels are chica friendly and there are several in Laureles. Just search Google for Ayenda hotel Medellin and look at the map.

If you're more interested in Poblado Energy Living is a very popular place to rent apartments. It's fairly expensive, but it's well reviewed here. There are also some Chica friendly hotels. Haven Hotel, Hotel Du Park Royale and others are decent options, but you'll pay more.

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[QUOTE=QuixoteDon;2578116]I contacted them about making a reservation for late July.

Instead of their normal website, they directed me to: [URL]http://www.casaalejandria.com/[/URL].

It seems that they're raised their rates by an average of $14 per room. Looking at the photos it doesn't seem like they did any renovations since March 2020 when the exchange rate was nearly the same.

They still have the old / official website up with the price differences.

[URL]http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/rooms2.html[/URL][/QUOTE]