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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2450495]Is Nana Plaza landlords going to forego rent. Meaning just let the bars go scot free till this is over. I don't see how a bar can survive. Rainbows were already struggling before c19.
If play hardball I really don't see new tenants moving in anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Cosmos closing was already announced few days back. Now I have heard couple of bars on NPE also closing or looking for buyer. I don't know the names of bars yet. But it's not Rainbow for sure.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2451582]Cosmos closing was already announced few days back. Now I have heard couple of bars on NPE also closing or looking for buyer. I don't know the names of bars yet. But it's not Rainbow for sure.[/QUOTE]On occasion I'll venture in bars not named Rainbow. Pre C19 I don't get how they survive.
Where's the customers?
[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2422035]Part 2.
We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.
We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.
After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.
It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.[/QUOTE]Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30[/URL]
What I observed last year.
Asian guy: How much longtime?
Thermae girl: 7,000 Baht.
Asian guy: OK, let's go.
Thermae girl: (Stunned it was that easy).
Off they go.
[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2452638]Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30[/URL][/QUOTE]Her body language shows a pretty clear indication of what is to come. IMHO.
Guido88.
[QUOTE=Guido88;2452806]Her body language shows a pretty clear indication of what is to come. IMHO.
Guido88.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. But you are not seeing the whole picture. She wasn't like this when I met her. The girl in the video looks like she has problems. Of course, I would not have chosen her.
[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2452816] The girl in the video looks like she has problems.[/QUOTE]She looks like a real *****.
The only girl in that video I would have even considered was the one in the tight white t-shirt with the red outline showing her stomach. Thanks for sharing the video. It's good to be reminded how badly Thermae sucks.
[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2452816]I know what you mean. But you are not seeing the whole picture. She wasn't like this when I met her. The girl in the video looks like she has problems. Of course, I would not have chosen her.[/QUOTE]I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2452872] that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.[/QUOTE]Why would they go to Thermae for any reason other than to lure a guy?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2452872]I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.[/QUOTE]I used to defend Therame to folks then I said why? Its MY hunting ground, and when I want, I get a trophy. So why pour encourage les autres?
Place sucks. Ugly chicks, bad service, overpriced, won't go with white guys anyway. Avoid. Plus they film you and put you on YouTube.
Time to Chant to the Thai Govt: OPEN UP, OPEN UP, OPEN UP.
I need a Thermae / Mixx night, sob sob sob. For me, a one hour flight.
[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2452638]Maybe useless now. But I found the girl in youtube.
The tall girl in dark between the minute marks 3:08 and 3:15.
Has a tattoo on her upper arm. Her watch is shiny in the video.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMRfRf531k&list=UUfo2YyOxA3DnwPDbhwBHo7w&index=30[/URL][/QUOTE]Whenever I see a girl in gogo or massage shop giving the expression she was giving, I avoid them straight away. Sometimes they're the pretty ones of the lot, but I know that expression is like a spoiler of lack of service to come. Not every girl can be hooker, and that's a fact. Not every girl likes it, and most of the times it shows on their faces. But in your case, she wasn't like this when you met her, so you just got unlucky in thermae.
I go to thermae once or twice a month, or used to go. Only when I am not horny, not looking for a great service, and in fine with wasting 2500 or 3000 baht. Service in thermae is hit and miss for non-asians. I don't really like the vibe of it, just a meat market.
Also, you're a nice guy for paying her full amount. Most will criticize you for that, but it's your money and you can do what you want as long it makes you happy. I have paid full amount in past even when she backtracked on some of services (like DFK or BBBJ), and also have cut the amount in half for the same. So it mostly depends on my mood and also girl.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2452872]I remember your original review a couple of months ago as it caused quite a stir. IIRC you're a newbie to Thailand and you went to Thermae on your first night. Unless you are Japanese / Korean, Thermae likely wasn't your best choice to start your Thai adventures if you had high expectations for service. It's a convenient place to pick up girls for a competitive price for looks quality. It has no barfine and no lady drinks need to be ordered. It's not a place where service is the number 1 criteria for the girls although that is YMMV.
How did your subsequent Thailand experiences go? Where else did you get girls?
Guido, not sure how experienced you are about Thermae but that's the way 80% of the girls usually look unless they're trying to lure a guy. Then you'll momentarily see the Thai smile.[/QUOTE]Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.
She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.
I stop and pull out and the condom is covered in blood like a knife after a stabbing. And there is blood on the bedsheets as well. I ask the girl again if she has menstruation. She insists no. Was she lying? I do not know. It didn't look like she was lying. If it was vaginal tear, then it must have been from a wild sex session the night before because it sure was not from me. Instead of being at work, she should have been resting at home to heal the wounds and not bring that bloodbath crap to my hotel room.
I don't get why I have to fight for something I'm paying for. These girls over-promise and under-deliver. And they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt them. And it's no use trying to talk sense into them. The concept of customer service does not seem to exist in their realm of mind. And they also want you to buy them food, which I did. And this is how they repay the kindness. I'm referring to the Thai hookers. The regular Thai folks, in my opinion, are genuinely good people. It's the Thai hookers that are the problem.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2453017]I have paid full amount in past even when she backtracked on some of services (like DFK or BBBJ), and also have cut the amount in half for the same. [/QUOTE]You try avoiding this stuff if you live in Thailand and that is a bar you go to often. If you "ripped off" a girl at Thermae or a gogo bar you regularly go to by not paying her what you agreed to, one day it may come back to haunt you. You may see a super hot girl and she turns out to be a "sister" to the girl you paid half to. Good luck going with the hot girl if there are any other potential customers around. In gogo bars, that girl you paid half to will tell every future girl you want to barfine and every other girl she knows in the gogo bar that you are a Cheap Charlie. You won't know what she said unless you speak Thai. I've heard it happen.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453047]You try avoiding this stuff if you live in Thailand and that is a bar you go to often. If you "ripped off" a girl at Thermae or a gogo bar you regularly go to by not paying her what you agreed to, one day it may come back to haunt you. You may see a super hot girl and she turns out to be a "sister" to the girl you paid half to. Good luck going with the hot girl if there are any other potential customers around. In gogo bars, that girl you paid half to will tell every future girl you want to barfine and every other girl she knows in the gogo bar that you are a Cheap Charlie. You won't know what she said unless you speak Thai. I've heard it happen.[/QUOTE]That's actually interesting and possible. But why would a gogo girl will tell other girls or mamsan that I paid her half because she changed the deal in room. Actually this might help me more, because other girls who think they can pull this off with me, will stay away. What you suggested, I can see that happening in other cities where working girls are less and hard to find. Thailand is full of them.
And as far as I remember, it has never happened with gogo girls where I have to pay less than agreed upon. This has only happened with girls from thermae, beer gardens, and dating sites. Interestingly, some of these girls who I "ripped off" LOL, later message me on Line and say "sorry for bad service, next time I make you more happy. Hope see you soon" LOL.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2453051]That's actually interesting and possible. But why would a gogo girl will tell other girls or mamsan that I paid her half because she changed the deal in room. [/QUOTE]Obviously she will leave out the second part of the story. The version of what happened will be the girl's version that she did everything and you paid half. You'll never get to say your version.
About 2 years ago, there was a girl at Palace who called me cheap because I wouldn't buy her a drink. She didn't know I spoke Thai so I started swearing at her in Thai and told her she was ugly. Then the girl went around telling girls bad things about me. My regular girls come over to tell me what she's doing. We have a good laugh. Then the girl comes to me when she sees I am spending 1000's in drinks. My girls tell her no chance for her forever and the girl got even angrier. Turns out even my girls don't like her.
My biggest laugh though was the night she figured out I hung out with Monkeypaw. The shock on her face was priceless.