Manila

Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.

Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?

Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.

Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.

Just for the record, I am a fat, old (62), gray haired, fart...........

I just made my first trip to PI. The first six days in AC, the last night in Manila. We went to the LA Cafe for the evening. For those of you who have been to Costa Rica, think of the Hotel Del Rey/Blue Marlin.

Arrived at about 7 PM and there were plenty of ladies there, I would say about a 3-1 female to male ratio. All types were available, but highest I would call an 8+. We ate in the pool room area, with passable food.

The first lady to hit on me immediately was a party girl. I went to the CR, and she was already sitting beside someone else when I returned, which I approved of. She came back over and I told her no way. My friends and I had a few drinks, and the crowd of ladies grew.

I noticed a lady that was sitting by herself, with no friends. She was classy dressed in a low cut dress, nice naturals, pretty (almost Japanese looking), sort of out of place. I had the waitress order her a drink, and she was surprised, but made no move towards me. A lady beside me asked what I was doing, I told her I had just bought her a drink, and she ordered a non-alcoholic drink. She told the lady to move over to the chair beside me. She was very shy, and did so reluctantly. When I asked her why she had not come over, her response was "You did not ask me to".

Come to find out she is a part-timer who had not been in the Cafe for over two months, and her last session didn't go well for her. I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2,000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.

This lady was total GFE in the room. She had said she was very horny from months of no good sex, and it was true. DFK, BBBJCIM, and waking me up for a morning session before I had to leave at 6 AM. She was the most passionate GFE that I have experienced in hundreds of mongering sessions in many countries. Another first for me, she asked if she could take my picture with her.

While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.

In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.

Health and happiness to all..............

[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.

Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?

Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.

Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]


Seems like you haven't read ANY posts here.
Five minutes reading would answer all your questions.

[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.

Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?

Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.

Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]

Usaman, I'll be in Cebu during the last week of July thru first week of August. I'm retired military so we may have a bit in common. I'd be glad to show you around if your there around the same dates. Hit me with a PM.

YM

While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.

In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.

Health and happiness to all..............[/QUOTE]


Steve,

I, like yourself have found many a gem by taking the road less traveled. Of course on occasion there is a reason they are sat out all by themselves!
I also share your affections for MDE, but in reverse. I have had some extraordinary times in MDE, but cannot get there often since I live on this side of the date line now. Give my regards to to those awesome piasas, y que tenga un buen viaje! We will try to keep things going here until your next visit! :-)

Cebu has plenty of action, but the main reason it is better is that it isn't Manila.

As for 48, you might consider some Cialis or Viagra...at 48 your brain's sex drive is the same as 18, but naughtier, but the other parts don't always keep up.

X

[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.

Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?

Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.

Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supersteve]I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2, 000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.

This lady was total GFE in the room.[/QUOTE]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.

The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.

Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.

With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.

If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.

Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "

Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.

The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.

Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.

With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.

If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.

Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "

Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall. " True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]I like this report.

I am a little cheaper as I live in angeles and usually pay 1000 pesos for short time? It does vary. For sure I do not pay for sex. I either pay for the girls time? Pay for her taxi and food and also contribute to her rent. Or pay so she will go away? Hahaha. If you know what I mean.

I have had bar fines and the girl does not want sex. I just accept it as she is human being and I want it to be consensual. Of course I will never see her again but for '1500 pesos why worry.

As I said I do not pay for sex but yes I love sex and want a willing girl.

Now as mentioned in the post for sure the girls need money. Its a different reality then USA or a western country where a girl can be free and even contribute to the meals and trip costs.

Many girls are hangiing out and willing to be companions because they need milk and food for their baby or their family and they need to pay the rent.

You are lucky if you meet a real nice girl that does not ask for anything and is like a real girlfriend. To not give them money shows either totally selfishness or a misunderstanding of what they need and the reality of their situation.

I have been in Angeles City for two years.

Most girls I meet would prefer to settle down with one guy and have a family or normal life/ But there are many circumstances and llittle opportunity as to why they are willing to sell their bodies.

I usually have two to six girls living with me in between boyfriends or other jobs.

Not like in the USA where they buy drugs or lavish spending.

Thanks for a well written report and to stick up for the girls. God bless them for giving me love and companionship.

Yes some are greedy and if you meet one that is golden be good to her. Or send her to me and I will take care of her. I will even give her money for her family up to a point.

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[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.

The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.

Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.

With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.

If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.

Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "

Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]

Spot on post...

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.

The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.

Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.

With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.

If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.

Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "

Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's a nice post. Personally I like to mention money upfront of at all possible, just in case she was expecting more and is disappointed. I try to just say a number, as an offside as we are leaving, as if it is a minor detail - eg, "Oh - 1500, ok . . ." and get her to nod.

When I pay her, I usually spread the notes so she can see how much is there without counting, even if it is folded. I slip it under her purse or something of hers sitting on the table, casually but in full view. I am trying to be discreet but also avoid any 'misunderstanding.'

The only time I have had any come-back on this was when a girl asked me to bring smaller notes next time - "A girl like me doesn't usually have notes that big to go into a shop with."

Excellent points Devils 1. I will use some of what you have written.

For me, I choose to make sure that there is no doubt about the money, or the exchange. I don't want to have problems of any sort in a foreign country, especially dealing with money, and a Pro.

Without going into a long story, in this case, it was because of a "connection" (her words) that she had made with me, and IMJ being a pro working only part-time. Spending a couple of hours talking to her, about her, was very different for her (again her words). She knew that what she was doing was prostituting, and even used the word, not only to me, but to our group. Due to the connection she felt, it was her desire that this seem more real than business. I could have possibly done better at the exchange to let her more enjoy the moment.

Again, thanks for the input. I will look for ways to make a smoother exchange, while still out in the open so there can be no doubt.

Health & happiness to all................

I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!

[QUOTE=Barfollowmule]I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated![/QUOTE]You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.

[url]http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=Barfollowmule]I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated![/QUOTE]Yes other than Don Pedro, the only morning place I can think of is Air Force one. And I am not even sure they are open that early. Also they are in Paranaque, which could be an hour ride each way.

I am sure you could google air force one and get their hours.

[QUOTE=Emale]You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.

[url]http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp[/url][/QUOTE]

BFM

I'm staying in Manila for 2 days and was wondering if you can give a little more details, like pricing, and are extras included the initial pricing.

Thanks