Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2042909]A lot of elderly mongers have plans to retire to the Philippines and settle down with a much younger Filipina to a life of bliss. However, being married to a Filipina or living with one is entirely different from flying in a couple times a year to fuck a few or several Pinays before returning to the safety of home.

A 74-year-old Aussie expat described 15 years of matrimonial hell married to a younger Filipina. He recounted his experience from the comfort of the chicken house where he lived with his four children. His troubles began with his Pinay wife's ever increasing demands for more money. When he resisted her demands she used his children as a gun to his head, warning him that if he did not hand over the cash, the children would suffer. After that no longer worked, she waited until he was weakened by illness. Then she knocked him down and kicked the shit out of him like a wounded dog. She beat the tar out of him until he was within an inch of death, and he was only saved when her father intervened to drag her off him.

She then disappeared, abandoning the elderly Aussie expat and his kids after refusing to sign off on permission for him to take the kids with him back to Oz. He was left with a heart condition, three crushed vertebrate and a hernia which limited his mobility. The Australian embassy offered to evacuate him back to Oz but he was unwilling to abandon his Flip kids. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHmKBPC1LQ[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yes you can't buy real love.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;2048153]The nation mourns its loss, Malacanang Palace declares.

Cheema, have some resilience. Finding high-end model-type girls is easier said than done. How many model equivalents want a face full of spooge for p4000 to p6000? Most of the girls around are 4's to 6's, and 7's and 8's are attainable with some work and luck. Model types, by my definition, are the genuine 9's and 10's, such as those one sees on the cover of fashion zine and in adverts. Join the crowd chasing them. You can still have a great time here with 7's.[/QUOTE]Your description of the odds match my experience. I did get one 9 when she had just moved to the city after winning a provincial beauty contest. She's since gone on to placing in national pageants and GMA bit parts, but that early success was pure luck. She hates me now and has her crowd of wealthy Pinoys (married or otherwise) for company. I'm open to ideas on how to apologize to her, a great lady not just gorgeous and sexy even if since moved out of my league. 7's and 8's according to my preferred type are all over. If only 1 in 10 attempts with non-pros ends up greasing my pole, it just means I need to "woo" (via copy-and-paste style messages) 100 to get a full roster of 10 lovelies. Online this is easy as can be, feasible on moderately long layovers for those not taking a direct flight.

In all fairness and curiousity to the question originally posed though, how would we go about getting a true model-quality girl? FWIW, I'd make friendly chat, drinks, meals, sex, and live conversation with as many pretty ladies as I could, surely in the Burgos / EDSA / AC hotspots, but more especially in the expensive and elite nightclubs mentioned in this forum. I'd tell all the girls during conversation I'm looking for a willing "flawless, sexy, model-type" woman, with a reward for effective assistance. Price? We each have our maximum budgets for dream-girl sex. I'd cap out somewhat north of 20 K for 24 hours with a once-in-a-lifetime winner. Time is money as in all things. Putting out all the feelers will almost surely result in a catch over enough time, because even hotties inevitably fall on temporary hard times. I don't think it's feasible "on demand", but Mr Hutsori, judging from online posts you and a few others on ISG have much more experience in the more rarefied strata of Filipino society than I.

[QUOTE=MrWoolyBooly;2048173]. . . SNIP .... Price? We each have our maximum budgets for dream-girl sex. I'd cap out somewhat north of 20 K for 24 hours with a once-in-a-lifetime winner. Time is money as in all things. Putting out all the feelers will almost surely result in a catch over enough time, because even hotties inevitably fall on temporary hard times. I don't think it's feasible "on demand", but Mr Hutsori, judging from online posts you and a few others on ISG have much more experience in the more rarefied strata of Filipino society than I.[/QUOTE]A former Senator of the realm has a condo hideaway in my condo block and every now and again he visits his love nest.

The security guards all know when Sir is visiting because at various times during the evening cars pull up and absolute stunners (the 9's and 10's) get in the elevator and head for his floor.

I shared an elevator with two of them one night on their way to the "penthouse level", and they were very giggly and excited about their upcoming experiences. The senator selects his one or two targets and discards the rest which can be any number up to 6 or 8 girls. Each of the discards gets 20,000 php for their "trouble" in appearing (the guards inform me).

There is another world out there away from the guys who haggle over a 2000 bar fine plus tip. The real 9's and 10's occupy that world. If you want to be in their circle, you have to have a fat wallet.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2048314]I shared an elevator with two of them one night on their way to the "penthouse level", and they were very giggly and excited about their upcoming experiences. The senator selects his one or two targets and discards the rest which can be any number up to 6 or 8 girls. Each of the discards gets 20,000 php for their "trouble" in appearing (the guards inform me).

There is another world out there away from the guys who haggle over a 2000 bar fine plus tip. The real 9's and 10's occupy that world. If you want to be in their circle, you have to have a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]One of my contacts is an ex Playboy Philippines 'model' and she has said something similar to me. Plenty wealthy pinoys want to enjoy her company for a high price.

But then she sees me for fun and company as I have known her before she became 'famous' and did FHM and Playboy etc and that counts a lots in her judgement (lucky me LOL).

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2048314]A former Senator of the realm has a condo hideaway in my condo block and every now and again he visits his love nest.

The security guards all know when Sir is visiting because at various times during the evening cars pull up and absolute stunners (the 9's and 10's) get in the elevator and head for his floor.

I shared an elevator with two of them one night on their way to the "penthouse level", and they were very giggly and excited about their upcoming experiences. The senator selects his one or two targets and discards the rest which can be any number up to 6 or 8 girls. Each of the discards gets 20,000 php for their "trouble" in appearing (the guards inform me).

There is another world out there away from the guys who haggle over a 2000 bar fine plus tip. The real 9's and 10's occupy that world. If you want to be in their circle, you have to have a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]Very true, RK.

It has been said that money and power are the ultimate aphrodisiacs.

On the positive side, it also has been said that that man is happiest who is content with what he has.

OM.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2048314]A former Senator of the realm has a condo hideaway in my condo block and every now and again he visits his love nest.

The security guards all know when Sir is visiting because at various times during the evening cars pull up and absolute stunners (the 9's and 10's) get in the elevator and head for his floor.

I shared an elevator with two of them one night on their way to the "penthouse level", and they were very giggly and excited about their upcoming experiences. The senator selects his one or two targets and discards the rest which can be any number up to 6 or 8 girls. Each of the discards gets 20,000 php for their "trouble" in appearing (the guards inform me).

There is another world out there away from the guys who haggle over a 2000 bar fine plus tip. The real 9's and 10's occupy that world. If you want to be in their circle, you have to have a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]Great info and so true. I had a good friend who met a gal and got engaged. She was a looker and it turns out she was just past the age where she was appealing to the Filipino politicians, so she started looking for a husband. Turns out most of her young life she would only date powerful politicians and was allured to the money and power. She lived well.

I was invited to their engagement party and when I walked in I was amazed at the quality of her friends. I am talking the most beautiful pinays I have ever seen. I got introduced but I had no chance, since they all were dating some powerful politician, making good money doing so and addicted to the power the men had. Later my friend told me about the stories she would tell, naming prominent politicians and having contact info for them. One night they picked me up to go to dinner and drinks. As we were driving down by the Green Belt area, we were stopped by a Policeman. My anglo friend was driving and the Policeman was trying to get some money out of him. His girl got on the phone and called one of her politician friends, the phone was handed to the Policeman and with in seconds he told us we were free to go!

[QUOTE=Shark5;2048473]She was a looker and it turns out she was just past the age where she was appealing to the Filipino politicians, so she started looking for a husband. [/QUOTE]So she turned 18? J / k.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2048314]
There is another world out there away from the guys who haggle over a 2000 bar fine plus tip. The real 9's and 10's occupy that world. If you want to be in their circle, you have to have a fat wallet.[/QUOTE]The difference is the P2,000 is OUR money. The money the good senator (s) are spending is the aid, support and graft that has been taken from the citizens. Tough to compete with that.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2049054]The difference is the P2,000 is OUR money. The money the good senator (s) are spending is the aid, support and graft that has been taken from the citizens. Tough to compete with that.[/QUOTE]Thank you for pointing out that we should not be admiring the good senator and other members of the elite who pay obscene amounts for a fuck from top tier hookers with money defrauded from the precariat who must content themselves with 200-500 peso street meat. It is always very easy for politicians worldwide to be very generous with other people's money, especially when that generosity is for their own benefit and sexual gratification. As they say, easy come easy go! The working man haggling over 2,000 pesos is not trying to be mean. He just wants to make sure that he is getting the best value for the limited amount of money that he earned with his labor. Given an unexpected financial windfall, the working man's generosity usually increases accordingly.

As the subject is under discussion and at the risk of been accused of blowing my own trumpet, but I have enjoyed the company of a number of what I would describe as 'model' quality Pinays over the past few years. Its honestly not rocket science, you just have to put in time and effort into finding them preferably before they get 'discovered' and suffer from that common ailment of the Filipina commonly known as the 'fuck, my twat has turned to gold' syndrome. Then they are lost to the common man of the likes of you or I.

The most I have paid was P15 k. Excessive you might think but I thought it was a rare bargain. This was for an absolute off the scale 10 (in my subjective opinion of course) who I flew in from her home in Mindanao. She stayed with me a day and a night before going off to visit her relatives in Manila. To be honest, I was glad to see the shapely back of her. She had some serious issues and was very immature. She wasn't a starfish in bed but nor was she particularly adept either. She was just so-so. But like most guys I am a sucker for a pretty face and always on the prowl for finding that rare creature whose looks are matched by performance. They, I'm sad to say, are rarer than tits on a bull.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2048314]Each of the discards gets 20,000 php for their "trouble" in appearing (the guards inform me).[/QUOTE]Greetings Mr Kilt, I'm thinking model-to-order in the big city is out of my league. Best I can hope for is to "woo" as many as I can simultaneously and patiently, available when they have a fall in fortune. Thanks for the the insight into the "techniques" of a part of Filipino society we don't hear from here (as far as I know).

[QUOTE=CunningStunt;2049343]...you just have to put in time and effort into finding them preferably before they get 'discovered'[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CunningStunt;2049343]But like most guys I am a sucker for a pretty face and always on the prowl for finding that rare creature whose looks are matched by performance. They, I'm sad to say, are rarer than tits on a bull.[/QUOTE]Greetings Mr Stunt, the circumstances of your successful find are similar to mine previously reported. Thinking more on the topic, finding a model-potential girl in the province and offering to take her to the city is almost surely better odds. There's always the risk of disappointing performance. In those cases I put on my untypical "treat their body as my sex toy" mode. Not optimal, but best available option in the situation. My disappointment with a super cute virgin from Mindanao via Cebu was, like your situation, because she stuck around too long. Sex toy mode isn't to my taste more than once a blue moon. Thinking it over, maybe I could search for super hotties in the provinces specifically to come live with me in the city. Buying their domestic plane, bus, or carabao ticket is a minor money risk. Only plane requires they know your real name. Maybe even allow them to bring a pre-approved friend.

As for performance and looks, tough to find or even search for anything beyond looks. Rare is the Pinay who will boast of her prowess unless part of a pro's dubious sales pitch. My best ever Pinay BJ: A 30-ish massage girl on Burgos who had lived in Japan. On the verge of chubby, pretty but no stunner. Most pleasant cowgirl: Plain, verging on ugly, 19-year old nursing student from RTU met on DIA. Most enthusiastically submissive: Cute but not really pretty nanny from last trip. Most PSE: Unattractive skinny thing that met me in a Eurotel literally two minutes after my previous date had left. Wooly Jr was (I thought) drained, but the way she took care of me was like a POV porn movie. I just layed there and she made a fantasy script real. All this is not to say that hotties can't perform. Lots of 'em out there. Best most awesomest pussy (internal): 24-year old married lady from Tondo. Absolutely gorgeous, just not tall enough for modelling. Too bad society is too prudish to tolerate performance reviews of non-pros. Probably it's more the guys who would suffer ego bruises by women's reviews of us haha.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2052361]You may be in denial. Logic does matter. Wanting to help the girls? If you really felt charitable, just pay her barfine, give her the tip, and tell her to take the night off.

Examine your feelings. Your motivation is not eleemosynary but rather to distinguish yourself so that news of your largesse will aggrandize your reputation thus facilitating your future forays.

So whereas you deny that your tipping will have an overall influence on the market in general, you do hope that it will enhance your standing in the marketplace. But that is the point that some of us are trying to make. Your tipping moves the fulcrum, even if ever so slightly, in favor of the seller. You are contributing to inflationary pricing. Multiply that by many others who are excessive and you have a shift in the market.

Hold the market steady and don't tip. But GE, you will probably have to continue tipping since you have already created an expectation which you can not disappoint. That is the other down side to tipping.[/QUOTE]It's hard to begrudge the professional ladies willing to provide more, more frequent, or better service to their more generous clients. Nobody would begrudge "overtipping" a plumber who fixed the slow draining sink because it would cause inflation, or out of charity to his hardworking low-paid employee. Guys offering more or with a reputation for greater generosity are more likely to get what they want. Even if Mr. Enough's motives (which I have zero insight into) are to faciliate future forays, why not? For example, I may prefer short, thin, busty sisters in threesomes or moresomes. Or just a back massage from a woman with big feet. Others can get discounts with lesser looks, service, convenience, or frequency. Every business works that way. If the supply is inflexible (assuming no increase in suppliers from greater incentive, a dubious assumption in the Philippines), bigger spenders will get more and others less. Same amount of overall transactions, but the market deciding who transacts. Some of us don't even always discuss price before inviting a lady to our lairs. As for not being able to disappoint the ladies' expectations in the future, if she needs rent money and I'm the best offer she has at the moment her past pricing is irrelevant. The same upward pricing pressure would work downward. FWIW I'm convinced that nothing plays a bigger role in each lady's current floor price (known only to her) than her current state of need driven by cycle of bills or irregular personal crises. Lots of other lesser factors may also contribute: Her comfort level with the guy, whether she perceives any ongoing frequent customer (or even relationship) potential, even whether she likes the particular hotel or condo he's staying in.

What does your Filipino drink? Does your Filipina drink hard liquor or Red Horse when your around? In over a decade of dealing its been my experience most Filipinas turn down strong drinks unless have or are about to experience something traumatic (like bedding an old, overweight monger) and don't want to be sober for the ride.

My girlfriend in AC finally broke up with me. She used to always wish me Happy whatever way too early and I guess it went above my head. For instance she would tell me Happy New Year on December 15. I am like no, this is still the same year. The last straw was Father's Day. It was on Sunday, but she tells me Happy Father's Day like the Tuesday before. I asked her why she always does that and she got mad and said I did not appreciate her and she could not take it anymore. Good riddance I say. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. A week later she sent me a message saying that her dad just died. I never responded. Just thought why was she telling me. We are no longer together.

Methinks you're a little hard on her, E. At least she's thoughtful. Have some sympathy for the poor girl. Lord knows these are not the brightest girls on the planet but have a heart. Cheers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2054833]My girlfriend in AC finally broke up with me. She used to always wish me Happy whatever way too early and I guess it went above my head. For instance she would tell me Happy New Year on December 15. I am like no, this is still the same year. The last straw was Father's Day. It was on Sunday, but she tells me Happy Father's Day like the Tuesday before. I asked her why she always does that and she got mad and said I did not appreciate her and she could not take it anymore. Good riddance I say. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. A week later she sent me a message saying that her dad just died. I never responded. Just thought why was she telling me. We are no longer together.[/QUOTE]