Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Socker;2465007]I hear all the bars are open and the international tourist has to go through a 14 day quarantine.[/QUOTE]Socker,

You seem to have been listening to Chinese whispers regarding international tourists. There has been a little expansion in who may enter Thailand from the previous "Thai citizens for repatriation only". However, it really is limited.

- Medical tourists and their carers who must undergo 14 days quarantine at the hospital. At the end of quarantine and treatment they are allowed to travel around Thailand.

- Foreign spouses of Thai citizens who hold a marriage visa who must undergo 14 days quarantine at an Alternative State Quarantine (ASQ) hotel facility. The list I saw a few weeks ago had costs ranging from THB 50,000 to 150,000. It should be noted that they take quarantine seriously here. I have not seen details on ASQ but the Thai citizens are confined to their room and their meals are brought to them by staff in full PPE. It is not the self isolation and be a good boy routine that some countries have adopted.

- Work permit holders and Permanent Residence holders who also have to undergo 14 days ASQ. Permanent Residence is not a matter of where you live full time, but an immigration status for which there are a whole load of hoops to go through.

- Business / Investor visitors. These do not have to do quarantine, but are restricted to a strict itinerary, not permitted to use public transport and not allowed to visit anywhere not on their itinerary.

Still excluded are Thai Elite Visa holders, Retirement Visa (or Extension of Stay based on retirement) holders, Long Stay (OX). Tourist Visas and Visa Waivers are likely to be a long way down the pecking order as things ease.

There is occasional politicians puff about travel bubbles but realistically very few places likely to be viewed as "safe" origins and those that are may choose to open up to other countries which Thailand would not find acceptable and so the bubble doesn't happen.

Finally, predicting when any easing is likely is impossible here. This is both because the situation in other countries is still evolving and when things do change here it's always at the very last minute. As an example the current visa amnesty put in place for those "trapped" here expires at the end of the month. That leaves a lot of folks here on 1 year tourist visas which require re-entry every 90 days (so called visa runs) uncertain what happens on 1 August. As it stands they would have to do a visa run in August but will not be allowed back in. When will they know? If it is a week before the end of July that the decision is finalised that would be very early for Thailand's bureaucrats.

[QUOTE=GettingFedUp;2465294]Still excluded are Thai Elite Visa holders, [/QUOTE]Feel sorry for those who dished out between 500,000 to 2,000,000 baht ($16 k to $64 k US) for a 5 year Thai Elite Visa and it's pretty much useless for as long as Thailand denies entry in to their country, which for Americans could be a year or three.

[QUOTE=Socker;2465007]I would assume being a Bangkok or Pattaya expat would be pretty sweet w little competition.[/QUOTE]Even at the height of the tourist seasons in better years, there was no competition of note for the charms of our sweethearts-for-rent. The amount of working ladies has always outstripped demand.

[QUOTE=GettingFedUp;2465294]You seem to have been listening to Chinese whispers regarding international tourists. There has been a little expansion in who may enter Thailand from the previous "Thai citizens for repatriation only". However, it really is limited.[/QUOTE]That's a good summation.

One point I would add is to not believe anything is certain until it's been posted in the Royal Gazette. There have been many cases over the past few months where changes have been announced by a government official, from the cabinet or CCSA only for it not to be approved. Recommendations and decisions have been made public only to be reversed at the last minute. Complicating that is that provincial governors have the ability to add greater restrictions than set for the nation.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2465372]That's a good summation.

One point I would add is to not believe anything is certain until it's been posted in the Royal Gazette. There have been many cases over the past few months where changes have been announced by a government official, from the cabinet or CCSA only for it not to be approved. Recommendations and decisions have been made public only to be reversed at the last minute. Complicating that is that provincial governors have the ability to add greater restrictions than set for the nation.[/QUOTE]We should not underestimate the pressure that will come from a situation where other countries are opening up to tourists. The uniforms may feel, they have absolute discretion to control but with the economy tanking and millions out of work it's more than possible that this overly cautious approach will be relaxed quicker than we currently anticipate.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2465352]Even at the height of the tourist seasons in better years, there was no competition of note for the charms of our sweethearts-for-rent. The amount of working ladies has always outstripped demand.[/QUOTE]But the quality has plummeted into the depths.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2465192]Even with the irresistable, good looking, good talker guy, there is only a tiny percentage of women who would drop panties, fuck and move on with no strings atrached the way a man easily could and would with 1,000's of women if he had the opportunity.

The rest will expect "payment" of some form in exchange for the sex even with that guy; sincerety, attention, a return call, something. Doesn't mean they'll get it. But those who don't will probably feel some degree, however minor, of regret, resentment, something, knowing that they gave away something of notably more value than he gave away and for nothing. It is in the hardwiring of the human female brain.

Even if the risk of pregnancy is near zero thanks to modern science, the female is still assuming much greater risk of disease than the man because she is the receiver of fluids where he is not. And she is certainly going to be aware of that risk with the attractive guy on her (likely accurate) assumption that he has had many other sexual partners before her.[/QUOTE]I beg to disagree, in my younger days I had a slew of male acquaintances who were good looking and suave and they competed among themselves to see who could bang the most women. They used to bang many girls for no payment at all picking them up at discos and clubs. Not everyone can do this and I understand if you don't believe it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2464789] Yes, in that way they are all hookers and we are all customers. Sorry..[/QUOTE]If you want to get philosophical, I propose we're all hookers in some way. I'm whoring my time, health, and stress for money, med students working girl their youth for a big paycheck when they get older, etc.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2465437]But the quality has plummeted into the depths.[/QUOTE]Quality and quantity has taken a Nose dive.

I remember not long ago Rainbow 4 having EZ 150 girls on weekdays and much more on weekends.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2465441]I beg to disagree, in my younger days I had a slew of male acquaintances who were good looking and suave and they competed among themselves to see who could bang the most women. They used to bang many girls for no payment at all picking them up at discos and clubs. Not everyone can do this and I understand if you don't believe it.[/QUOTE]I was never talking about payment of only money. That was another poster's characterization of it, not mine.

I have not met a womanizing playboy who can find a money-free fuck with a new girl almost any hour of the day who is not still required to jump through some kind of hoop or two before, during or after a fuck by either assuring the girl she is "special" or being pestered to call or see her again afterwards. That alone is a form of emotional "payment" in that it helps to settle the girl's mind that if something goes wrong and she gets pregnant or there is any other unpleasant surprise afterwards that he will at least not forget he'd ever met her and totally disappear from the scene.

That is a need for at least some minimal assurance of security and protection from the man that is hardwired in a human female"s brain for practical survival of the species reasons.

There is no human male counterpart to that need. It would never for 1 second cross our mind to need any assurance of that kind before accepting an invitation to fuck a woman.

Of course, that doesn't mean the man will do a damn thing about it if something unplanned or unpleasant comes along as the result of fucking her. Just that it is a normal, natural consideration in the head of a female to want the assurance. I suppose the only counterpart for a human male is the inclination (also hardwired in our brain) to help or rescue a damsel in distress. That is a normal, natural consideration in the head of a man.

And, no, I'm not talking about some 0.1% instance in all of humanity of a nameless, faceless orgy of 100 girls lined up facing a wall and taking it doggie style by 1,000 unidentified men suddenly breaking out on a Saturday night in a Pittsburgh bar that someone witnessed or participated in once or twenty times. I'm sure that happens, too. I'm talking about the vast majority of sexual encounters by everyone else on the planet.

[QUOTE=MissionAsia;2465462]If you want to get philosophical, I propose we're all hookers in some way. I'm whoring my time, health, and stress for money, med students working girl their youth for a big paycheck when they get older, etc.[/QUOTE]Now, imagine how much easier it would be to figure out how to pull yourself out of a pit of debt on those issues if you had been born with a vagina instead of a penis 😁

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2465352]Even at the height of the tourist seasons in better years, there was no competition of note for the charms of our sweethearts-for-rent. The amount of working ladies has always outstripped demand.[/QUOTE]There is "no competition" in a sense that it's easy to find an available time slot with any of the working girls if you were willing to pay her asking price. However, even moderately attractive working girls are rare these days (unless you have a fetish for tattoos, fake noses and monster eyebrows).

Supply / demand ratio has fallen sharply over the years. These days, any average looking girl can pull 2-4ST customers each day, so much that most avoid LT. Thinking about it, average girls are now stunners, most working girls are dregs. About 10 years ago, supply outstripped demand so much that plenty of decent girls were doing no more than 3-4 customers per [I]week[/I], and they'd jump at an offer of 1 k baht ST or 2 k LT. Going on a multi-day holiday at 1 k / day used to be a bingo for many girls, whereas these days it would lose them money.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2465549]There is "no competition" in a sense that it's easy to find an available time slot with any of the working girls if you were willing to pay her asking price. However, even moderately attractive working girls are rare these days (unless you have a fetish for tattoos, fake noses and monster eyebrows).

Supply / demand ratio has fallen sharply over the years. These days, any average looking girl can pull 2-4ST customers each day, so much that most avoid LT. Thinking about it, average girls are now stunners, most working girls are dregs. About 10 years ago, supply outstripped demand so much that plenty of decent girls were doing no more than 3-4 customers per [I]week[/I], and they'd jump at an offer of 1 k baht ST or 2 k LT. Going on a multi-day holiday at 1 k / day used to be a bingo for many girls, whereas these days it would lose them money.[/QUOTE]Spot on. And 20 years ago the ratio was staggering. There were far fewer punters. Just local farang, local Japanese, and the farang visitors. And the Japanese and the farang fished in different ponds. As more and more punters from countries closer to Thailand came, prices increased and quality decreased.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2465262]Where did you hear that you can get back in to Thailand on a 14 day quarantine? I'd book a flight tomorrow if that were the case.

No Brainer for me to do 14 days quarantine there. Girls would be lining up to see me in my room. They'd bring me good food too.[/QUOTE]I tried to find the article on The Thaiger but couldn't find it. I thought international flights were being allowed in Thailand again. The article stated a medical reason would allow entry including a 14 day quarantine but it seems I was reading what I wanted to see and not what was printed in the article. Sorry about that. LOL.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2465352]Even at the height of the tourist seasons in better years, there was no competition of note for the charms of our sweethearts-for-rent. The amount of working ladies has always outstripped demand.[/QUOTE]That's what they are (in most cases), sweethearts for rent. Before this virus Bangkok and Pattaya seemed to be in high season no matter what time of year it was. After a while you get used to the massive amounts of sausage all around. Sausage crowds don't bother me like they used to because I can still find that special dancer and get my fill. Hopefully nothing will ever happen to the pussy pipeline in Asia. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2465572]Spot on. And 20 years ago the ratio was staggering. There were far fewer punters. Just local farang, local Japanese, and the farang visitors. And the Japanese and the farang fished in different ponds. As more and more punters from countries closer to Thailand came, prices increased and quality decreased.[/QUOTE]The good old days! How I miss the good old days of 2020 when I was still allowed to enter Thailand!

Bad timing on my part to decide to live in Korea and Japan instead. Oh well, can think of worst places to live than Shinjuku, Dotonbori, and Myeongdong.