Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1860324]That same poster also insists that the stage handler takes a cut of a chicas stage tips. That is not the case at all. The chicas get 100% of their stage tips. The handler will go on stage after the routine and sweep all the bills into the corner with their feet. Then they will neatly arrange the bills and perhaps count it and hand it ALL to the chica. The chica will then tip the handler a couple bucks. Sometimes if the chica earns $20 or more they will have the handler go to the bar and exchange the $1 bills for a $20 so they don't have to carry around a bulky wad of bills. I've observed this process happen dozens of times in close proximity. The handlers do NOT take any cut at all except for what is voluntarily tipped to them.[/QUOTE]This is exactly how I have observed the same thing: Chicas tipping out voluntarily a couple of bucks to the mesero or butch-looking woman that assists the strippers in this manner.

At times where the dancer makes a good haul (over $30) they seem to tip out close to the same amount ($2 or $3) to the support staff. Never some high-firm-set percentage (like 20% I've never been drunk enough while inside HK to see things that aren't really happening. For example, I've had meseros try to short-change me (or conceal part of my change) numerous times.

But I've always caught that slimy behavior exactly when it happens. So I quickly get my corrected change and the shifty mesero get little or no tip. I've never needed the assistance from any HK manager because I was too loaded when originally dealing with the mesero.

I love going to HK getting drunk and fucking hot little Mexican girls. But Fuck I've been spending so much money in there. The chicas are starting to think I'm rich!(which I'm not) how much do you guys normally spend on a trip to HK?

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1859913]Last night I took a HK girl up to Cascada and I'm pretty sure they charged me $18. Not the $17 mentioned here.

But. I did have a few drinks and might have imagined it was $18.

I took a girl from Adelitas on Thursday and the room cost there is only $13.

I'll pay attention to the price of Cascada if I take another girl from HK.

A question though: if you rent a room overnight in Cascada do you get a nicer room that isn't having sex on the same bed dozens of times every day? There is no way I'd feel comfortable sleeping in there overnight, especially with the music, and thought of how clean the bed is. And, I wouldn't want to sit on the toilet either. On my last couple trips I've been staying at Caesers Hotel.[/QUOTE]What HK Girls have you been banging?? Any good ones??

This forum has a lot of complaints about high prices in HK and Cascada. The bros could spend a lot more in HK, but they have been holding back to boycott. The chicas complain that they are not doing as much business as they should due to the high price structure.

HK and Cascada are facing stiff competition from Adelita, Valentina, Golden Palace and street girls. HK and Cascada managements should consider a lower pricing structure to bring in new revenues and increase profit for both the bar, hotel and chicas.

Considering the competition, the following should gain advantage over the competition, improve clients' satisfaction, improve overall business and profit for the bar and chicas:

Beers to cost $3, ficha $5 with unlimited access minimum 20 minutes.

Coupon 2 free beers with lap-dance appetizer good any day of the week for VIP.

A standard arriba rate of $50 or 1,000 pesos. $150 or 2500 pesos for all night, with voluntary propinas for good performance.

Cascada's ST room $10 or 160 pesos for 30 minutes.

Cascada rooms 80% discount for VIP card holders any night of the week.

VIP card $30 or 500 pesos, good for 6 months.

Just a few ideas from the Big 5 business consultant. Any suggestions for HK's management please add here.

[QUOTE=TJ2015;1860668]I love going to HK getting drunk and fucking hot little Mexican girls. But Fuck I've been spending so much money in there. The chicas are starting to think I'm rich!(which I'm not) how much do you guys normally spend on a trip to HK?[/QUOTE]$250 total if you include the gas, parking, taxi and food which amounts to about $50-60. My New Year's resolution is to be more fiscally responsible, so I am cutting back to once a month instead of once per week.

[QUOTE=TJ2015;1860673]What HK Girls have you been banging?? Any good ones??[/QUOTE]Well, I've been there 4 nights in a row and I'll go tonight also.

But so far I banged 3 Adelitas girls, and 1 HK girl. I wish I didn't take a Adelitas girl last night, because when I walked in to HK last night there were really good looking chicas that wanted to play as soon as I walked in. The girl I had at Adelitas looked good until the dress came off.

I enjoyed HK on Sunday night better than Friday and Saturday night. The girl I took at HK had an unusual name. I could never figure out how her named would be spelled. I think it is Halle. Because she would pronounce her name like 'hey-jey' With her big ass shoes she was about 5'8", hard body, but fake tits, blonde, looks kind of like a European woman. I think she is about 27 or so. She was fun in the bar, but in the room she was one of those girls that gets in to a routine mode. Sadly I only remember the name of the first girl I had at Adelitas, I think because she gave me a way to remember her name. Her name is Victoria. A brown skinned hottie from Veracruz, with a nice natural body. When I forgot her name the first time she said 'Victoria's Secret', so I remember her name. I've been going to Adelitas first, then HK. I'll go to HK first tonight. In HK it seems like I always see different girls, in Adelitas it's seems the same every night. Except most of the women I like in Adelitas took Sunday night off.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1860678]This forum has a lot of complaints about high prices in HK and Cascada. The bros could spend a lot more in HK, but they have been holding back to boycott. The chicas complain that they are not doing as much business as they should due to the high price structure.

HK and Cascada are facing stiff competition from Adelita, Valentina, Golden Palace and street girls. HK and Cascada managements should consider a lower pricing structure to bring in new revenues and increase profit for both the bar, hotel and chicas.

Considering the competition, the following should gain advantage over the competition, improve clients' satisfaction, improve overall business and profit for the bar and chicas:

Beers to cost $3, ficha $5 with unlimited access minimum 20 minutes.

Coupon 2 free beers with lap-dance appetizer good any day of the week for VIP..[/QUOTE]Big 4, the 5th went to the big consulting firm in the sky some times back. The rest are regional.

VIP card. I want a 6 months pass. I also want more special deals with the VIP card. HK have been offering coupons to satisfy the average customer. Well, how about the VIP customers? The only change I've seen is a reduction in membership from 6 to 4 months. Hey that's a nice bonus for VIP customers. At the very least, the VIP card should allow a 50% discount on the rooms even weekends. The VIP card should help the customer instead of giving us a "personal waiter." What fucking genius thought up this feature?

Re-train the waiters so that they stop scamming customers. We're not monkeys, we know what is going on. Some of us complain. Those who don't, leave for Adelitas and other competitors. Put a manager on the floor instead of having him jack off in his man cave. That is what they recently did with Tropicals after the Waiter-Mafia almost caused me to hire some thugs to break a couple of their legs. Tropical managers now manage on the floor. And guess what? The waiters are behaving themselves and I am actually comfortable ordering drinks from a waiter that isn't on my favorite list because I know that they're not going to short change me with their manager watching them.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1860777]I wish I didn't take a Adelitas girl last night, because when I walked in to HK last night there were really good looking chicas that wanted to play as soon as I walked in. The girl I had at Adelitas looked good until the dress came off.[/QUOTE]I made the same mistake in Adelita my first time in the ZN. As a seasoned vet pointed out to me in response to my TR, you have to look for the girls that are minimally covered. At the right times, which are usually late Friday and Saturday nights, one can find some real gems in Adelita, and for a standard rate of $60 US / $1000 Mxn. I have noticed, and others have often confirmed in the Tijuana forums, that AB is often just as good if not better than HK at these peak hours. At least as far as chicas go, not ambiance mind you. Can't beat HK in that regard.

On another note, for whomever is interested to know, I've decided to wait to earn enough frequent flier points from work travel for my triumphant return so it can be accomplished free of flight costs. I expect this to be perhaps around September. Will post accordingly as the time draws near.

You guys need to come up with more demands and suggestions that can bring more revenue and profit to HK and better values to us.

After you consolidate into fair and realistic recommendations, I can print it out and hand it to the boss. We can then convince him to adopt what we wanted.

Don't know how much traction we can get, because the client mix is still over 80% Mexicans, but they are not buying too many drinks or screwing too many chicas. There are the occasional big spenders who order bottle services and buy lots of fichas. We need to get them to side with us.

We need to gang up and convince the HK management to at least experiment with new ideas to improve satisfaction to mongers and chicas, at the same time bring in more profit for HK.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1860783]Big 4, the 5th went to the big consulting firm in the sky some times back. The rest are regional.

VIP card. I want a 6 months pass. I also want more special deals with the VIP card. HK have been offering coupons to satisfy the average customer. Well, how about the VIP customers? The only change I've seen is a reduction in membership from 6 to 4 months. Hey that's a nice bonus for VIP customers. At the very least, the VIP card should allow a 50% discount on the rooms even weekends. The VIP card should help the customer instead of giving us a "personal waiter." What fucking genius thought up this feature?

Re-train the waiters so that they stop scamming customers. We're not monkeys, we know what is going on. Some of us complain. Those who don't, leave for Adelitas and other competitors. Put a manager on the floor instead of having him jack off in his man cave. That is what they recently did with Tropicals after the Waiter-Mafia almost caused me to hire some thugs to break a couple of their legs. Tropical managers now manage on the floor. And guess what? The waiters are behaving themselves and I am actually comfortable ordering drinks from a waiter that isn't on my favorite list because I know that they're not going to short change me with their manager watching them.[/QUOTE]

This Saturday I bought a VIP card for 800 p. Got good value. Got 20% off Sat & Sun and 80% of Monday room rate at Cascadas, and 3 beers (1 per day), got a lap dance for $11 (1/2 price) plus I tipped her $5. LD not worth it, picked out a girl, taken to a booth, can touch anywhere but she didn't take her bottom off, mesero tapped the glass at the 7 min mark. When I got out, I saw a guy sitting by the stage with a girl for 25 min, getting a lap dance and only cost him a ficha drink. During the whip cream show on stage you could touch her pussy for $1 or the boobs for another $1. Tried using HK web site coupon for free lap dance and for appetizer. But those are for non VIP patrons.

Will post in the street walker area on my experience there, when I get back from vacation. And many thanks to those who have provided me with helpful info. (note. At 10 pm asked the ally girl, near Capachino club, where is Karina. Said she went home).

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1860678]HK and Cascada are facing stiff competition from...Golden Palace.
Considering the competition, the following should gain advantage over the competition, improve clients' satisfaction, improve overall business and profit for the bar and chicas:

Beers to cost $3, ficha $5 with unlimited access minimum 20 minutes.

Coupon 2 free beers with lap-dance appetizer good any day of the week for VIP.

A standard arriba rate of $50 or 1,000 pesos. $150 or 2500 pesos for all night, with voluntary propinas for good performance.

Cascada's ST room $10 or 160 pesos for 30 minutes.

Cascada rooms 80% discount for VIP card holders any night of the week.

VIP card $30 or 500 pesos, good for 6 months.

Just a few ideas from the Big 5 business consultant. Any suggestions for HK's management please add here.[/QUOTE]First of all Golden Palace is not providing HK any "stiff competition."

If you knew anything about business you'd know that permanent price reductions are the equivalent of management admitting they made a mistake. And their egos will prevent that from happening. They're not going to lower prices across the board. The damage has been done. You just have to basically wait for inflation to correct the mistake of raising prices in the first place. Lowering beer prices won't help that much. If mongers wanted cheap beer they would buy it at Costco and drink it at home. The only thing that might help is lowering ficha prices. $9 fichas are definitely not at equilibrium. I believe they could maximize profit at around $6. HK management doesn't have to worry about altering its price structure on weekends as it has no problem filling the seats. The problem is Mon / Tues and perhaps slightly Sun / Weds. They have to increase the only thing that gets mongers to come in the first place-putas. If they upped the ficha payout on Mon / Tues from $34 to perhaps $50 or even $60mx that would entice more chicas to work thus increasing the number of mongers thus increasing revenue and profits.

There are ways around management admissions to poor pricing such as having a "special one time only April Promotion providing $3 off on all fichas," then rince and repeat the following months. "$9 chica drinks are now only $6!" can be widely promoted.

The three key factors of whether I visit HK are the 1. Arriba pricing 2. Fricha pricing and waiter service, and 3. Girl quality.

Arriba: $80 for 30 minutes is too much. I walk away just out of principle. 1000 pesos is my absolute limit.

Frichas: $10 ($1 tip) is even more outrageous particularly when one has to deal with an asshole waiter and his fucking games and constant interruptions. Shaking her drink before its empty encourages me to get a new waiter, not order more drinks. Gets my defense up very quickly.

Girl quality: I can't complain. Variety is about the only thing I'd change. I keep seeing the same girls over and over in the same bikini. They should promote more theme days such as "Cowboy Monday" where girls all dress in Daisy Shorts, or "Revolution Tuesday" where the girls dress up in sexy traditional outfits. "Sophisticated Wednesday" where the girls dress up in cocktail dresses. " Change up the themes every day.

My own drinks: $5 for a water bottle that I could get from the XOXO store for 50 cents? That's reasonable since I am paying to see the girls. Frankly, $5 is a reasonable rate for many things in HK. Anytime something approaches $10, I feel like a sucker accepting it similarly to paying $80 for arriba.

If HK prices were reduced, I see one or two things happening. First, many of the hot girls would stop this line of work and they would be replaced with less desirable women. Second, the bar would be crowded with every low income man that can't afford the current prices. In neither case would I want to spend much time or money at HK, so they lose the likes of me. I typically spend about $250 per day-visit to TJ, most of it at HK, Cascadas, LC, and Tropical (including what I give the girls).

My guess is that HK already has optimized their pricing to maximize profits. That is what matters to them. If I owned HK, I might consider clamslammers suggestion of encouraging business on Monday and Tuesday, which has already happened via the 80% off room prices for VIPs.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1861056]If HK prices were reduced, I see one or two things happening. First, many of the hot girls would stop this line of work and they would be replaced with less desirable women. Second, the bar would be crowded with every low income man that can't afford the current prices. In neither case would I want to spend much time or money at HK, so they lose the likes of me. I typically spend about $250 per day-visit to TJ, most of it at HK, Cascadas, LC, and Tropical (including what I give the girls).

My guess is that HK already has optimized their pricing to maximize profits. That is what matters to them. If I owned HK, I might consider clamslammers suggestion of encouraging business on Monday and Tuesday, which has already happened via the 80% off room prices for VIPs.[/QUOTE]Come On Horse now you're insulting most of us here LOL. What do you mean "Low Income Man" That's what Tijuana is all about it's for the low income monger.

I don't think anyone in this forum is from La jolla Shores or from Beverly Hills. I do believe The HK girls should drop the prices to same prices as AB. Don't worry they're not leaving Tijuana or going anywhere. They're expensive because some mongers think with their dick and they overpay and ruin the good prices for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;1861056]If HK prices were reduced, I see one or two things happening. First, many of the hot girls would stop this line of work and they would be replaced with less desirable women. Second, the bar would be crowded with every low income man that can't afford the current prices. In neither case would I want to spend much time or money at HK, so they lose the likes of me. I typically spend about $250 per day-visit to TJ, most of it at HK, Cascadas, LC, and Tropical (including what I give the girls).

My guess is that HK already has optimized their pricing to maximize profits. That is what matters to them. If I owned HK, I might consider clamslammers suggestion of encouraging business on Monday and Tuesday, which has already happened via the 80% off room prices for VIPs.[/QUOTE]I don't see the girls stopping this line of work either because the minimum wage is $4.25 per day and this is the common wage paid to the overwhelming majority of Mexicans. Even the $50 for 30 minutes is probably not unreasonable because it is more than 10 times the Mexican 8 hour shift.

But my real issue is not the $17 room nor $80. It is the shitty 30 minutes. It rushes the girls. I am rushed. I can't take a decent shower afterwards. I battle with the clean up guys. And afterwards I have a bad impression and I don't want to come back. It would be nice if the the girls charge $80 an hour, and the room is $20 for the hour. I can handle that. $100 for an hour of memorable experience.