FKK Artemis - Berlin

I will try again,

Has anyone seen any of these girls lately:

Belinda (the blonde) , Carrie, Dorota, Pati (the blonde) , Isabell, Jennifer, Sherin, Betty (the blonde) and Violetta?

Oh! Cool new wing video and update! Thank you very much guys for info.

It is nice to know that there will be new sauna. I hope it will be steam sauna as Artemis do not have one. Also Jacuzzi, I hope they put real hot water in there and keep it going during winter time! It will be nice.

As for the new rooms. It must be freezing to go there during the winter time. No indoor connections to those rooms?

As for the extra cash to the girls, I mean if it is done too frequently, it will become standard for girls, but now and then, with girls I like alot and I am regular with, I give little more to say thank you, then next time the session will be more intimate and fun.

Some girls upsell from the beginning and even you pay, service is limited. We cannot expect same service standard from all girls and with this we just have to try out and see. I never go full session with new girls, I just go 60euro at the beginning to see, how far she is willing to go with money. Then if she was good, and I liked it, I go for longer session with them next time.

In the end, some you win, some you lose guys.

[QUOTE=Tosha;1414105]Also Jacuzzi, I hope they put real hot water in there and keep it going during winter time! It will be nice. As for the new rooms. It must be freezing to go there during the winter time. No indoor connections to those rooms?[/QUOTE]As reported back in Feb (as in RTTF), all the new rooms are fully heated so once inside, no issues (I used them 3 times). Apart from the dubious expense of heating water when it is -15° at night, the problem with Poondorf in winter is walking through snow and ice. The rooms are a very short, doable walk, but the sauna, jacuzzi, and pool are not, which means a path would need to be shoveled often to provide viable access. The risks of slipping, falling, liabilities, general hassles, and for sure unwillingness of most girls to go through such ordeals explains why the wellness facilities were closed. But the rooms are fine, and in some ways better than upstairs.

I had a weird and disappointing session with her last month also. Would not repeat even though she is beautiful.

[QUOTE=Shinai;1413646]She has black hair nice natural tits, a lion tatoo on her shoulder back, from Hannover Germany and reminded me IVY. May be it won't sound to everyone good to give extra for an action, but she made me excited and I like kissing with especially young girls. I could touch her breast yes but not too long time continiously she had a sensation may be temporarily, she refused DATY but that did not make hesitation on the action and she seemed to have pleasure during the action I enjoyed to be with her anyway was a nice action for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1414150]As reported back in Feb (as in RTTF),The rooms are a very short, doable walk, but the sauna, jacuzzi, and pool are not, which means a path would need to be shoveled often to provide viable access. The risks of slipping, falling, liabilities, general hassles, and for sure unwillingness of most girls to go through such ordeals explains why the wellness facilities were closed. But the rooms are fine, and in some ways better than upstairs.[/QUOTE]Yeah imagine girls walking out there nude and with high heels even though it is short walk. During winter.

I hope the new sauna is steam sauna.

Anyways if they heat up the pool and Jacuzzi it will be so nice from let say mid May to mid October (max) to take a nice dip looking at sky!

Now that I think about it, they should have created rooms for girls to sleep in new wing. And convert the upstairs (where girls now sleep) to new rooms. Just a thought.

[QUOTE=Tosha;1414232]Yeah imagine girls walking out there nude and with high heels even though it is short walk. During winter.[/QUOTE]I wonder how much full nudity there will be out there. The trains run by on an embankment very close by the new outdoor section. There is a wall but the trains run above the wall. The embankment is covered with bushes and small trees and one can only hope that this provides full coverage from passing eyes. It remains to be seen how comfortably private the whole thing will be.

AM

i know that the informations that i give here available somewhere in the forum but i just wanted to make an update and give a brief to newbies like me. i was there for saturday and monday. first of all i must tell my appreciations to buck rogers for his company on saturday. it's very much preferable to have a friend there just for talking, reviewing the girls, sharing information, briefly evaluating the time you are there between your sessions. also it gives big advantage to you when you are there to get more socialised so to get more from artemis. especially people like me can have a bit difficulty to get used to the club at the beginning. (try to sit on a bar seat with a towel while 50 super sexy women staring at you.) yes i have been in many other clubs but i was first time in a fkk. in here you will share 6-8 hours with them very close so it s different than a bordello or a striptease club. you should have true and useful strategies to refuse women approaching you unless you will create a bad image for yourself so your popularity will decrease rapidly. regarding talent available there i make a comparison with aurora 911 and i think that maybe a bit less then there. very close. my friend very close. a better thing with artemis is you can find girls from all over the world. some united nations meetings can be done here. in order to get most of the club i recommend you to put 450€ per night (80€e entrance. 4x60=240€ for sessions and rest for drinks, taxi and other unpredictable expenses) in your pocket. i didn't know that owner of here is a turkish so it has another point of interest for me. i read his story from the turkish newspapers. kenan simsek just wanted to make the perfect club for a man and i think he did.

all of us who catched the porn age and spend some time for watching a porn in his room and dream that the woman on the screen open the door, come inside and give a blowjob, that was the dream fantasy of most. man! it happens in artemis! you should try especially the upstairs kino and i must tell you the girls entering the room usually more beautiful than the one on screen. it has a magic effect when you enter there. porn on screen and girls inside. i can't tell you more. you should go and see. foolish me i had very much sticked to that fantasy so i stayed in kino maybe more than in the bar (btw i have never been a party guy.) just for having one of the girls that i had favourited when i am sitting in bar area and wish that she comes to and ask me to join.

one of the must tell issue is which girl to select. i respect people who just go with the woman he is attracted most and probably he wouldn't be disappointed but as an experienced mongerer i was very selective and tried to be logical on most of my selections. i tell you this because after some sessions i believed that this one was the best of all but every time i lost my belief because i found smt better. always remember that; artemis is a wonderland so give up your old strategy to select the less beatiful girl to take the better attitude and gfe. to have a girl with a super sexy body with a scale of ten with gfe is definitely and mostly possible in artemis. also i have a list for myself depending on nationality versus gfe and satisfaction here as follows;

russian.

ukranian.

moldovian.

polish.

bulgarian.

romanian.

turkish.

german.

also i respect someone who gives up to this sequence and just go with the most attracted.

i had a few good experiences with romanian and bulgarians.

sessions that i have;

vika from ukraine:maybe the ugliest woman there and she has a master degree on sex. cute and talented. must try.

x from romania: can't remember her name. hot woman and passionate it s a real pleasure to fuck her 185 cm sexy body despite her age.

violetta from poland: again cold but she was very warming and passionate in the room. bad side is she is too much professional.

viola from russia:cold and distant in the bar but she is a real cutie in the room. one of the best i ever had.

roxy from romania :every man's dream.

andrea from romania; submissive and tolerative.

a tall bulgarian over 30: i was ok with her nice blowjob in downstairs kino and nice doggie finish in room only in 15 seconds. she was my first after one week hunger of sex.

a blonde with a killer body from bulgaria: i could get with her again and again if i didn't stop myself despite my dissatisfaction. definitely a shark.

at the end i had in my mind not the girls that i f. ck the ones that i couldn't. as follows;

i wish to give a try to one of the dominicans and brasilians and also south americans with large tattoos.

two tanned romanians with little and magnificent asses both are about 23_25 and has black hair.

the irish girl.

a few germans. i have never tried one of them but buck has did and his view is all negative. moreover all of them refused my dfk requests.

the blonde striptease dancer with glasses. magnificient ass. she isn't fuckable i guess.

sibel the tall turkish. i must thank to her because of her accompany throughout my time there.

long blonde hair 20 years old polish [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]. you can recognise her from small and natural breasts and baby face.

tall and white skin blonde moldovian was wearing all red last night.

caroline from germany.

nina from chech republic has refused me that i find very strange. she told me that she is not being withturkish men because she has some turkish people in her family so she respects them. (of course i didn't belive that sheet!)

what i have learned:

in berlin, artemis and bordellos are the most reliable options if you don't have financial problems. prefer artemis because it's absolutely much more fun.

i go to the caligula but didn't enter because i preferred to spend my limited sperma and money to artemis. also i check kd on sunday. nice selections even on sunday. if i had time i would pick amie.

please don't spend too much time about what to wear when you are going to a fkk because you will take all of when you enter.

they don't have desserts in restaurant so if you are into it after sex like me have some before you go there and i understand why they don't put. (girls are eating there also)

don't worry about the hygien of the pool because it has been filtering like the drinking water (from newspapers)

have a book with yourself to get away of girls while you are getting a rest in downstairs (learned from a friend)

don't forget to say thank you to bartenders because they work a lot and need some respect.

always smile and stay cool.

don't go directly to a girl and ask. (that could be the reason that nina refuses me. i don't know.)

sit on a couch and wait for her to pass in front of you and catch her eyes or betterly sit on somewhere close to her.

talk carefully with south american girls because they are really different then european woman.

don't look at a girl if you didn't decide to go with her or don't try to touch her if she is close because if you don't go with her to upstairs she would be angry. you give hope but you don't give a sheet at the end.

sunday is the worst day for a fkk because it s the family day in germany. for example it's the opposite in turkey because most people work on saturday so they all go to bordellos and mps on sunday so girls fight each other to be scheduled on sundays.

it' useful to read angus's artemis guide before you go. i didn't believe at first about when he says it s dependable which days are best but i agree with him now. despite girls guys ratio decreased on monday at least it was less crowded and there were available rooms.

on saturday there were incredible number of girls and i think ratio was better compared to monday despite the huge number of men but i tell you again monday can still be preferable because there are still enough resources in means of both quality and quantity to f. ck with.

i am back in istanbul. i don't know i will have a chance to come there again because even for app. to visa costs 85 euro and they ask a ton of documents to give. my report has been a bit long but i just wanted to share all the info and feeling that i have. i hope you enjoy. auf wiedersehen.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1414359]Don't go directly to a girl and ask. (That could be the reason that Nina refuses me. I don't know.)

Sit on a couch and wait for her to pass in front of you and catch her eyes or betterly sit on somewhere close to her.[/QUOTE]Why not go directly to a girl and ask? I do that sometimes [often], and have never been refused. Is this some secret/unwritten rule I'm not awere of.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1414359]Talk carefully with South American girls because they are really different then European woman.[/QUOTE]In wich way are they different, I love latinas, but I don't think they are any different than any other "nationality" except maybe the color of their skin and the size of the ass.

If you want a girl. Go to her, talk to her, take her to the room.

South American girls will happily take your Euros, no different feon European girls.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1414405]If you want a girl. Go to her, talk to her, take her to the room.[/QUOTE]I agree. There are no unwritten rules about this. The only thing I would say is that approaching a girl directly like this can make it a bit sticky if you then realise that you in fact do not want to take her upstairs. But you can still just say something like you just wanted to meet her and defer until an unspecified later time. As I say a bit awkward but doable.

AM

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1414359]Also I have a list for myself depending on nationality versus GFE and satisfaction here as follows;[/QUOTE]Iceberg, I know you actually said that this is your list and that others may not agree. Count me among them. I find these nationality ranking lists completely silly, bordering on ridiculous. There are great (and not so great) women everywhere, and any experienced monger knows this. A lot of behaviour can be affected by language-to the extent one is comfortable speaking a girl's native tongue probably helps making her tongue satisfying. Eg, I think German girls whom you rank "last" are just great. You just need to understand their culture is a bit matter of fact and can appear cool vs others who might vamp more. Germans are just not into artificial behaviour but I tell you, once you get things cranked up in the room, they are as wild as any. But I am a white guy and speak German and these obviously do affect things, as they would anywhere. The point is-all is very very very subjective.

On the battle field, there is no "technique" to best join up with a girl. Whether she approaches you or you her. Things just go as they go, and personal chemistry between you is really all that matters for a good session for both parties. How that does or does not happen is impossible to predict (see your experience with Nina) , and it can change from hour to hour as well. Some girls are such pros and or so eager for money that they can perhaps suppress their revulsion towards a monger for 30 min or so. But it is absurd to expect a girl to be attracted to you just because you pulled out some euros, and mongers need to have a little game and be charming, funny, and attentive as well. Mongers just need to find "their" way, and even that can change depending upon mood, hormone flows, lunar cycle, who knows. At least Artemis lowers the bar as seen often by the weekend warriors, who act like idiots, and still manage to have a good time.

One of the nice things about Artemis is that you can experiment a bit with different styles and ways. If there is one generalization to make, IMHO it is that in general, it is a good idea to spend some time chatting before zimmering, to feel out the chemistry between you. Towards the end before you seal the deal, it is good to ask if your expectations are shared by your intended (kissing etc.) so everyone is clear before money gets exchanged. But RB will confess that on occasion he has walked up to a stranger and just said "let's go". At times this has worked out just fine, and at times it has been a disaster. All part of the mystery of men and women.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1414578]On the battle field, there is no "technique" to best join up with a girl. Whether she approaches you or you her. Things just go as they go, and personal chemistry between you is really all that matters for a good session for both parties.[/QUOTE]Guess it's true. Difficult to predict. I'm almost totally unable to have long chats (or even short chats) with a girl before going to the room. Maybe it's the age difference, the different culture, the language. Maybe I'm shy or just the way I see this whole FKK / club thing. Maybe because not many girls actually come up to me and when it happens it's usually the wrong girl.

With girls I don't know, I usually choose them for their look and when I decide it's her I want I just go up to her and take her to the room. At the max, I ask (gently and trying not to sound too much like I'm asking the specs of a product I want to buy) if the girl is into DATY etc. When in the room I do chat and try to get the girl to be comfortable, if that's the mood. There's a bit more on that. I actually like to find myself in a room with a girl that I like physically but that's completely unknown. In some cases, if she doesn't speak any language that I know, it's a plus. Happened a couple of times, in other clubs.

As for the countries, I gave up on trying to fine a pattern between country of origin and quality of the service a long time ago. There are differences but none that will influence my choice.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1414578]Iceberg, I know you actually said that this is your list and that others may not agree. Count me among them. I find these nationality ranking lists completely silly, bordering on ridiculous. There are great (and not so great) women everywhere, and any experienced monger knows this. A lot of behaviour can be affected by language-to the extent one is comfortable speaking a girl's native tongue probably helps making her tongue satisfying. Eg, I think German girls whom you rank "last" are just great. You just need to understand their culture is a bit matter of fact and can appear cool vs others who might vamp more. Germans are just not into artificial behaviour but I tell you, once you get things cranked up in the room, they are as wild as any. But I am a white guy and speak German and these obviously do affect things, as they would anywhere. The point is-all is very very very subjective.

On the battle field, there is no "technique" to best join up with a girl. Whether she approaches you or you her. Things just go as they go, and personal chemistry between you is really all that matters for a good session for both parties. How that does or does not happen is impossible to predict (see your experience with Nina) , and it can change from hour to hour as well. Some girls are such pros and or so eager for money that they can perhaps suppress their revulsion towards a monger for 30 min or so. But it is absurd to expect a girl to be attracted to you just because you pulled out some euros, and mongers need to have a little game and be charming, funny, and attentive as well. Mongers just need to find "their" way, and even that can change depending upon mood, hormone flows, lunar cycle, who knows. At least Artemis lowers the bar as seen often by the weekend warriors, who act like idiots, and still manage to have a good time.

One of the nice things about Artemis is that you can experiment a bit with different styles and ways. If there is one generalization to make, IMHO it is that in general, it is a good idea to spend some time chatting before zimmering, to feel out the chemistry between you. Towards the end before you seal the deal, it is good to ask if your expectations are shared by your intended (kissing etc.) so everyone is clear before money gets exchanged. But RB will confess that on occasion he has walked up to a stranger and just said "let's go". At times this has worked out just fine, and at times it has been a disaster. All part of the mystery of men and women.[/QUOTE]Dear Rocket,

First of all I must tell you that my list is just to give a view to someone who is new in this world. It's never can be related with nationalims or some other sheet or pre-judgements if yes why should I put Turks to the end. I am sure as you will with germans have a great session also if I had chosen I would with Turks but my list prepared at least 10 countries experiences and mine is a great source for years for EE girls. It's a fact that the interaction between you and a girl effected by chemistry and other things. But it's another fact that Russian and Ukranian girls are far awaway customer oriented compared to for example Romanians so they deserve to be on top of the list regardless you talk their language or not also regardless you have a white skin or not. I believe in Artemis there is a strong screening and discipline for girls to make their customers happy and to be honest. In many mongering places Romanians will tell you they are from Moldova or Russian or some other sheet because they know if tell you the truth you wouldn't choose them. I have experienced that many times personally."Oh I just told you that I am from Moldova because my mother is a moldovian." or " I told you making love is included not DFK" Despite I asked her clearly. Anyway briefly that list is in general experiences not for Artemis so I have strongly emphasized I respect person who goes for the most attracted. In any other place I will be loyal to my list. That's all.

I heard from few girls that they do not go with really really old guy and also I also heard that they do not go with nationality that they once had bad experience with or someone who remind her / give vibe of those particular bad experiences.

I mean it is big brothel, so I am sure those girls working there must have at least few times bad experience or even dangerous moments with clients, so I do not blame them.

I never got refused by girls, but there are no technique. I mean just be nice and go up to them and talk to them like you go and talk to your friend. Then there should be no problems. All those girls are really nice at heart once you get to know them. There are few that you need to work on to break ice as some are careful with you at first to find out how you are, but once you get to know them and you treat them nice, sometimes they give extra effort in the room during session.

With German blone Joy it was like that.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1414654]But it's another fact that Russian and Ukranian girls are far awaway customer oriented compared to for example Romanians so they deserve to be on top of the list regardless[/QUOTE]Well that's your opinion, man, as The Dude would say. I have been with Russians and Ukranians and it was bad or so so or great. And same with Romanians. Only the Romulians have ever been problematic - but one meets them very infrequently on this planet.

You simply cannot generalise-or maybe you can, but I cannot. But please enough now. Take it to the Lounge if needed. I am done.