Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2762791]If you are a top G and by Top G I mean- you speak Spanish- have class- sufficient funds- want a beautiful woman to engage with outside of sex- have solid online game- do not want to deal with desperate beggars and thieves- CDMX / Mexico is your city all day every day and there is no debate.

If you want physically beautiful girls for the best price and ease of access and you don't mind dealing with low end hookers, shady drug dealers, crooked cab drivers, and everything in between- Colombia is your paradise.[/QUOTE]Seems you have compared 2 tourist places in one country with the capital of another. If you compared Bogota to CDMX or Acapulco to Cartagena would make more sense. That way we get more apples to apples.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762201]...As for my dispute with Nounce and saying this is the best sex there is, it has to be. If my harem was made up of some of the best P4 P women there are, and if I am giving up my harem for one girl, then she had better be sexually better than the harem. IMO it is very rare to find such a woman....[/QUOTE]I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762735]Ah yes. DramaQueen has returned. And his grasp of reality remains as tenuous as ever.

Top 50 cities in the world by murder rate. 13 of the top 25 cities by murder rate are in Mexico. 21 of the top 60 are in Mexico, and only 2 in Colombia. After 60 it's basically all US cities. Violent crime rate by country, Mexico is 4th in the world, Colombia is 7th.

Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.

I've never had to deal with the violence or the drugs. I've almost never encountered girls with bad attitudes. Although I've probably eaten nearly 1,000 meals in Colombia and probably less than 50 in Mexico, guess which country's culinary offerings put me on the toilet for 7 days.

Nobody has gotten pissed off because those 2 don't agree with their lifestyles. In fact I'll wager that my lifestyle in Colombia is much better than Miamiboy's. What annoys people is when they come along insulting everyone who doesn't follow their style.

So if CDMX is so incredibly good to you, what brings your sorry ass here? I just checked on the fabulous, can't be beat CDMX forum and there have been 2 posts this month. Seems to me, if it's so fucking incredible, someone would occasionally post something talking about how great it was. Shit. Battle Creek, Michigan, population 52,000 has more activity on their forum than CDMX.

Is that the problem? You need to beg people to come to CDMX so maybe 1 person might agree with your opinion? Good luck. While I enjoyed playing tourist in CDMX, I didn't see anything to convince me it was worth choosing as a mongering destination.[/QUOTE]Most of the guys who monger in CDMX probably do not have the time to post a bunch of be. S. On a sex mongering forum. Before visiting CDMX I had the same concerns as you, "how could such a huge Latin American city have so few posts on its' threads? Then I visited it and quickly realized it's not a budget destination and most of the guys mongering there most likely live quite busy lives. I don't think you get the digital nomad sex monger type in CDMX, more like the successful married American / European businessman type who is there for the weekend on business or escaping the wife for a few days. To those types of guys, time is much more important than money. They are not wasting there time posting because they are too occupied with their professional and personal life.

I could really care less what any of you do, but for those looking for a different type of experience and may want to try CDMX one day, for the right type of monger it is certainly worth a visit.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2763079]

I could really care less what any of you do.[/QUOTE]Hey Ram. How are you? So why do you care what some of us do?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]And here we go again. You said you were long a REIT, real estate investment trust. Now I have to listen to your cocky idiotic douche ass explain how this is different than real estate all over again when your dumb ass does not understand the case against REITs and real estate is the exact same.[/QUOTE]Clearly you don't understand Real Estate and why (or how) a REIT (real estate investment trust) is different. You might be the only person I have every encountered from Texas that doesn't understand Real Estate. I could try to explain it to you but you can't read so it would be a waste of time.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]Right so when I play the game it does not count but when you do it does?[/QUOTE]You don't know anything about investing, Elvis. Listening to Cramer on CNBC doesn't make you knowledgeable about investing. Have you ever taken a Finance course? At least that might be a place to start.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]Hey, douche, what you are trying to push is the oldest trick in the book. You have some portfolio where you jettisoned all the times you lost your ass and held onto all your gains and are trying to show the world how smart you are. What you offer as proof then is anything but.

If I was MMQB, I would say you were an idiot for not selling at the absolute peak instead of just going back a few months when the discussion began. 2021 was as close to ideal conditions for big tech as there were. [/QUOTE]There you are. I never owned big tech stocks. You still haven't learned to read. Why is that Elvis? If I were a Monday morning Quarterback like you, I would have claimed to have bought all those tech stocks after the tech bubble burst in 2001 and I would claim to have made millions. I wish I had done that. But I didn't. Practice your reading skills, Elvis. I'm sure there is a remedial high-school somewhere near you.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]I could ask then what your exit strategy is but it is pretty clear, you do not have one and therefore are making the same mistake today as you did then.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha my exit strategy? Pretty clear what my exit strategy is, and it is well documented too. It is called a will. Naturally since I was a CPA I read all the financial statements and if things look like they are changing for one of my investments then I modify my holdings.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]The reason you buy and hold is because you think everything has nowhere to go but up. What is so stupid with you is you think what worked the last 20 years ago is going to work again. But douche, we are back in the conditions of the 1970's.[/QUOTE]No, Elvis. I saved and invested all my working years. Something I learned from my parents. Luckily I did very well. Not hard to fathom. Just keep investing in quality companies or S&P index funds from 1970-2019 and you will have a pretty sizeable fortune for retirement. It wasn't rocket science. So what do you do when you reach retirement? Continue to invest in equities and take chances? Or plug everything into bonds? Neither was appropriate. I changed my portfolio to slowly move monies into solid dividend paying companies. Several of these are REITs. I have the advantange of a very nice income from dividends with very good appreciation. This is one way to derisk a portfolio. I could see that interest rates were not going to be low for eternity so bonds were not a reasonable option.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]And what I know about you is you are so egotistical, judgmental, and pigheaded, you just cannot adapt to the market, you cannot adapt that way in real life. Your cockiness is just a mask your fear, and you should be afraid because you do not know what the fuck you are doing.[/QUOTE]You don't know me at all. I am far more reasonable than you and I don't have to call you names. Only undereducated children have that compulsion.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2762988]I enjoy debating people with positions opposite mine who know what they are taking about. You are not one of those people V. You have no made case for your positions outside of how great you are.[/QUOTE]Hardly. You are extremely insecure. You make up your investment trades after the fact and you even throw in that you have a 2500% investment winner. Tell me all about that one Elvis. I'm still wating to hear about it. Why do you do these things?? Because of your insecurity. You need people to think you are something more than an overweight, undereducated slob. Sadly you haven't changed many hearts or minds.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2763049]I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.[/QUOTE]Nounce,

I can't presume to comment on what works best for you as opposed to anyone else. But as I read through the WA exchange with the girl. She agreed to go along with your preferences after stating that she didn't want to do some of those things. You reasonably, thanked her and were preparing to move-on. Then she said "OK I'll do kissing"etc.

My question for you is. Did you see her? How was the session? I've generally followed a similar strategy of describing what I most enjoy in a session (cita) and sometimes the girl says yes I like those things too or no, I don't like this or that. When they say they don't like something but then turn around and say they will do them, I get the sense of desperation and at least for me. Generally those sessions turned out poorly. Sometimes they back away from what they said they would do, or the performance is less than enthusiastic. So, I've generally not booked a session if there is an initial dispute about certain preferences or if there is a dispute about compensation.

I'm curious about your experiences in that regard.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2763049]I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you meant by saying I treat 5 and 10 the same. I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. The exact same girl may be great in bed one day, and a total disaster the other day for various reasons (sick, grandma just passed, etc). She may be great in bed with me, but suck with you, or vice versa, depending on chemistry. So it makes no sense to use 1-10 scale to assess performance, unless you do it only for yourself. Wine and dine, yes, I like it, but it also helps building rapport which leads to a better performance after. Who doesn't like to eat good food, drink and have fun?

And speaking of performance again, my personal assessment would be as follows. Will I repeat with her? If not, I will move on. If yes, was the sex good or amazing? Obviously, an ideal scenario is a hot girl, 8+ that provides an amazing sex, but I will take a solid 7-7. 5 that does the same any day rather than a hotter girl that is average or just above average in bed. I won't repeat with any girl whose performance sucks, no matter how hot she is. Amazing sex with 7 and good sex with 8 or 9 would probably be a tie, but in this case I will definitely be focusing on a hotter girl, building a better rapport with her, so that the sex upgrades from good to amazing.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2763232]Not sure what you meant by saying I treat 5 and 10 the same. I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. The exact same girl may be great in bed one day, and a total disaster the other day for various reasons (sick, grandma just passed, etc). She may be great in bed with me, but suck with you, or vice versa, depending on chemistry. So it makes no sense to use 1-10 scale to assess performance, unless you do it only for yourself. Wine and dine, yes, I like it, but it also helps building rapport which leads to a better performance after. Who doesn't like to eat good food, drink and have fun?

And speaking of performance again, my personal assessment would be as follows. Will I repeat with her? If not, I will move on. If yes, was the sex good or amazing? Obviously, an ideal scenario is a hot girl, 8+ that provides an amazing sex, but I will take a solid 7-7. 5 that does the same any day. I won't repeat with any girl whose performance sucks, no matter how hot she is. Amazing sex with 7 and good sex with 8 or 9 would probably be a tie, but in this case I will definitely be focusing on a hotter girl, building a better rapport with her, so that the sex upgrades from good to amazing.[/QUOTE]It's not about performance. In the case of sexuality, if Brazilian is 10, Colombian maybe 7 on average. These are just relative number I use for explanation, it's not exact. Skill will be more about performance but I will still look at the whole package.

Using your example, there are girls that can easily have chemistry with more men, there are girls that takes work, some take a lot of work. You can make a scale out of that.

I am not trying to invalidate your view, instead I am giving a reason why we think differently.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2763232]I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. [/QUOTE]But that same thing goes for looks! She could be a 4 looks wise one day and a 7 another day!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2763236]It's not about performance. In the case of sexuality, if Brazilian is 10, Colombian maybe 7 on average. These are just relative number I use for explanation, it's not exact. Skill will be more about performance but I will still look at the whole package.[/QUOTE]Glad I don't have to put all that pressure on myself worrying that I can not go with a chick because she is only a 6 1/2 instead of a minimum 7 that I must have. I am just out to have a good time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2763240]But that same thing goes for looks! She could be a 4 looks wise one day and a 7 another day![/QUOTE]No. She can't be fat one day, and fit the next day. She can't have fucked up teeth one day, and have a beautiful smile the next day. Make up and clothing can make a small difference, maybe 0. 5-1 point. 3 points difference is huge, a true 4 can't become a 7 overnight, and would probably need to undergo a whole bunch of surgeries and other procedures to become one. It seems you don't understand the 1-10 scale nor use it, that's fine, stick to your own scale, this has been argued over so many times in the MDE forum.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2763245]Glad I don't have to put all that pressure on myself worrying that I can not go with a chick because she is only a 6 1/2 instead of a minimum 7 that I must have. I am just out to have a good time.[/QUOTE]There is plenty of chicks in MDE that I find attractive, 7+. You can keep all 5's and 6's and below to yourself, no worries.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2763024]Seems you have compared 2 tourist places in one country with the capital of another. If you compared Bogota to CDMX or Acapulco to Cartagena would make more sense. That way we get more apples to apples.[/QUOTE]Good point and both Bogota and Acapulco are on my to do list at some point, but I have never been.

I was comparing the places a guy is most likely to visit if hes going the high end route in Mexico compared to what the average guy does in Colombia. Most guys visiting Colombia these days are hitting Medellin up and a distance second is Cartagena.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2763191]Hey Ram. How are you? So why do you care what some of us do?[/QUOTE]Ehh I am alright, to be honest I have been takin it real easy since summer ended and I had to return to the USA. Hope all is well with you.

I was just posting to help anyone who is deciding between Mexico and Colombia. I was once in that situation and I am just spreading some knowledge based on experience. Both places can be great for high end and low end, but my opinion is, Mexico is better for high end / SA action and Colombia is the better budget destination.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2762922]I lived in Mexico from 2015 to 2021 in Tijuana and traveled and mongered extensively in various different Mexican cities and states. I started coming to Colombia is 2018 and last summer I ditched my Tijuana apartment for a better one in Medellin. Anyways since 2020 I started spending more time in Colombia than in Mexico and I believe that Colombia is much better than Mexico for not only mongering but also living, traveling, even food is better in Colombia, and you are correct that everything is much more affordable than in Mexico.

CDMX is a dirty city. I remember back months ago DramaFree, DF would post such great things about DF LOL, but I have spent significant time in El DF and I saw it from a much different perspective. And to correct you there is a street scene in CDMX such as the clocktower, Botero, or Santa Fe and it is where I spent alot of time in Mexico City, it is called la merced, particularly a big wide street with 5 or 6 lanes for care and a chain link fence separating the sidewalks from the streets. This street is called Anillo de Circunvalacion and there are street hookers lined up on both sides of the street and the chain link fence (now a green solid metal structure) anyways it runs from about mixcalco all the way to the mercado de la merced, with short time hoteles inside that market by the metro station. It also runs down Calle San Pablo where they sell the bikes and bike parts and along that pedestrian walkway street where they sell clothes and shoes I want to say it's called corrigedora or some shit. Anyways this area is CDMX's version of Botero. And the women are hideous both in their looks and their attitudes, also many have bad hygiene, many do not shave their their pussies and are hairy as can be, many use a drug called activo that is similar to paint thinner that they sniff LOL. I will take Botero and the vennies and paisas any fucking day over la merced in DF. Also prices are higher and value is lower. Expect to pay the Mexican perras of the merced $200 to 300 mxn if you want them to give a crappy CBJ with their crappy missionary sex. And if you want to see some tetas be prepared to cough up cien pesos mas. A very bad value for very ugly perras and bad service. Also hoteles in the area will run you about $300 mxn a day which is about $15 usd compared to hoteles in medellin around centro run about $40 k COP a day which is like $7. 50 usd so hoteles are twice as much too.

I have also mongered in Tijuana, Puebla, Veracruz (Puerto, Cordoba, and Orizaba), Chiapas (zona galctica, and centro tuxtla), and I've used mileroticos in Cancun. Every time I have paid more in Mexico than in Colombia, everytime the women are worse quality in Mexico than in Colombia, and have bad hygiene and bad attitudes and it feels like they don't really want to do their jobs. And in Colombia there is a plethora of beautiful energetic vennies costeas and paisas that are happy to fuck you with a smile, and many are open to BBFS (alot more than in Mexico) and they don't have the shitty attitudes like in Mexico.

As far as food, Mexican food is good, I especially love the tacos de suadero from the street vendors and birria when I'm. In the north of Mexico, but it does give you the shits there is no question about that. And you can find good Mexican food in Colombia, Medellin has several good Mexican restaurants, but you can't find good Colombian food in Mexico, so as far as price, variety, and not having to shit every 20 mins for 4 hours eating, if say the food winner is Colombia not Mexico.

As far as being more dangerous, and I'm only speaking from my own experience and that probably is different than yours. I would have to say that Mexico is way more dangerous than Colombia. From my time living in Tijuana crossing the border everyday for work, etc. I have seen many fights, 2 of my coworkers in San Diego had gotten killed in Tijuana, I've known people who got their cars stolen from parking lots by the border, I've been shaken down by crooked cops in zona norte. In Mexico City the crooked cops are not as much of an issue as in Tijuana but there are other dangers there in the streets.

In Colombia your biggest problem is a taxista trying to give you fake money for change, it's best to just not use taxis. Use inDriver app if you absolutely need a taxi but it is better to just use the metro system and busses in Medellin, I've never had a bus driver or a cvica card recharge person give me fake money for change not even once.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Nice post with good info. When I say Mexico has better high end food, I am referring to the nicer restaurants in cities like CDMX, GDL, Cancun, and MTY. Not like average restaurant food, but if your looking for a nice high end restaurant, Mexico has some really amazing places. Medellin has some very goods spot as well, but it's really no contest when comparing the best vs best in regards to food.

Obviously Mexico is a huge country. I was referring to mainly the cities of CDMX, GDL, Cancun, etc. You are correct about Tijuana from what I have read about it.

In terms of danger, Parque Lleras and the Clock Tower are shady. The vast majority of guys visiting Colombia are going to be mongering in those spots. I saw alot of fights this summer, alot of homeless beggars, shady drug dealers, just some unsavory people in general. If your in CDMX or GDL for a weekend and your doing the sugar baby / SA route, your just not going to deal with any of that. In those cities there is no in person mongering venues outside of the strip clubs. If that's what you want, then you hit a place like Medellin up, but be ready to deal with those shady characters more compared to the big Mexican cities. The areas of CDMX to pick up the street walkers are a bit shady, but again I am referring to guys who don't mess with street walkers, I am speaking to the type of guy who only deals with 8-9-10's off SA or the high end girls in the strip clubs.

You are 100% correct, if you want streetwalkers that are good looking and give good service at an affordable price, Medellin is the best spot in the world at the moment. If you want to ball out with very high end escorts and deal with no shady characters or bullshit of that nature, eat at outstanding restuarants and stay in classy 4/5 star hotels then CDMX and the big Mexican cities are your "best" option. They are not your "only" option.

Of course you can go high end and low in either country, I am just letting anyone on the fence know, Mexico is better for high end and Colombia is far better for low end.