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[QUOTE=RedWaters44;2602937]Personally, Medellin wouldn't be my first pick as a noob. It is probably the best destination with arguably the most fun forum, but it's just not very noob friendly.[/QUOTE]Medellin to a mongering newbie is like putting a deluxe smorgasbord buffet in front of a starving man.
Nice to hear that we are one of the rockinnest forums on this website.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2602865]All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.
Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.
If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points:
1. Take nothing and nobody serious..[/QUOTE]Good stuff Keep On Keepin' On.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602908]I have given someone money without having sex with her (whether that means just hanging out with her or just kissing or just groping. Anything below actual sexual intercourse). Most of the girls I know in Medellin are poor. If I was with a girl who had a great job or who came from strata 5, then I probably would not offer her money.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that made it clear. I gave them some money too and most I don't have desire to ever have sex with them.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]I would agree with that, but I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women. What is missed in all that is the people who have lived in Colombia have told me that they have not seen the mythical 10 in Centro or Santa Fe. The best they have seen is like an 8....[/QUOTE]I think it is a mistake to think they don't care about quality. They just focus on different quality. I am in Sao Paulo now. Been to Scandallo several times，it is a let down quality wise in look initially but I have a great time once I get pass that.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women.
I posted that I fucked a 10 from seeking / SA named Kiara in my hotel and showed a picture of her.
The common thread of the guys bragging about how little they paid is that their women are stunning, the greatest in bed, but they rarely show pics of said women. Gee, I wonder why.[/QUOTE]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.[/QUOTE]I agree. Had a girl from SA paid her 250,000 for OK sex, looks were ok would say 8. After that, First time my friend took me to New Life and I was like a kid in Toys are Us. 25 stunning girls, curvy body for just 45000 for 30 minutes. Believe me, I have to drink a beer to calm myself before I took one to the room. Well I am not saying the it was GF experience in the room, but still sex with CBJ.
Anyone planning Medellin during end of October or November. Its boring to be alone in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]...The thing about the culture here that I cannot stand is that everyone is focused on how much money versus the value of the experience....[/QUOTE]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.
In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?
Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.
1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.
2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?
3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.
At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.
Thanks for any help!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.[/QUOTE]The putas "problems though were that her attitude was like a 2 and performance was like a 6".
What is that worth to you?
What is that worth to anyone?
Flying to Medellin tomorrow, can't wait. Will stick to Parque Lleras tomorrow then go to El Centro on Monday.
Osteoknot or Surfer if either of you is going to be around El Centro anytime from Monday during the next few weeks, would love to buy you a few drinks to say thanks for your reports.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2603125]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.[/QUOTE]I agree with this sentiment. And it's for a few reasons. The splash the cash types just think very superficially. It's nothing for me, and I can cut in line and get the best in my limited time. That's not a great way to operate in the mongering world. In mongering intel is nearly as valuable as cash. The stories these chicas tell, esp. to those like Tall man that have woven themselves into the fabric of the city is just plain funny. They do try to warn the mongers on the board but some just don't and won't take heed to their own detriment.
Firstly, if it were not for some value conscious mongers, willingly sharing their intel, I would perhaps not even have discovered Medellin. So once I land to use the wallet to advantage yourself is not in great form. In fact if a monger refers a chica to me, I always ask what is a reasonable price so I know. Secondly, the locals are just not as able to afford the prices we pay, and although they do have home court advantage, the dollar power and what we earn for our time is perhaps an order of magnitude different. Paying near the market rate is being respectful of the local market. Not doing so stokes envy and resentment. I have had more than one convo with local taxi drivers etc. where they talk negatively about the stereotypical weekend warriors.
As an example of how we are clueless about affordability, last month, I was out with my chica and was speaking about how the crepes and waffles ice cream was so good and so cheap. I paid like 4.5mil I think at Santa Fe mall and remember being surprised at the price. In my mind that waffle cone would have been like $5-6 easily back home. She told me that was not cheap. I asked her what a normal ice cream cone costs in her barrio and she said 2mil at most. That was a eye opener for me, even as someone with the mindset to not overspend.
Finally a couple of self serving reasons, the no dar papaya mantra extends beyond bling, it also pertains to not splashing too much cash that can make you a target. Scammers less likely to go after an average target. As a gringo with limited to no Spanish you are already a juicy one, no need to add to that. Lastly and this maybe entirely subjective, but past a certain point in price, I have found a negative correlation between price and service. Money can tempt a girl to come to you buy it can't and won't make her feel like hanging out with you. That depends more on how you are treating her, how comfortable she is with you, and whether she is enjoying herself with you. So if you were paying 150 mil with a girl, and the decision was what to do with he other 150 mil. I personally get more out of spending it on a date with the chica, dinner, movies, dancing or whatever than giving her the 300 mil. I think Osteo said it and the more I thought about it the more I realized it's true, the first date is seldom ever the best one, it's the 3rd and 4th by the time you are getting the best sex. And for me that has meant subsequent trips. I always mix in atleast a couple of new girls to refresh the stack for this reason. My old regulars are however the ones with whom I have the predictably good sex.
Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?
[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8[/URL]
According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.
[URL]https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/[/URL]
What has surprised everyone is chi as and there honesty. I always get an honest answer. Ask my chica yesterday how may you work with she was honest, you in drugs. Yep. You high right now. Yep LOL. Waiting on bustam.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602963]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."[/QUOTE]Nobody is moving into El Centro to fuck things up, the existing SW's are being corrupted by all the newbie Colombian mongers overpaying. And to put things in perspective, $ 5 USD may be chump change to you and I, but for a Colombian that's almost 20,000 COP which is not chump change.
This is Colombia, not any of the other Countries you listed so we have to think in Colombian Pesos and their value in Colombia, not USD. And when a Chica throws out a wildly inflated price almost double to a newbie Colombian monger, and he accepts it, guess what, news of this travels like wildfire between the walkers and hence that is what I have been noticing as to what has been occurring. I posted about a candy girl the other day quoting me 50 K, when up until about six months ago before the invasion of the newbie mongers, it was typically 20 K.