Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2602875]More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro.

Up until six months ago there where very few street walkers that where actively looking for gringos, which I'm going to label "gringo hunters", and they are becoming more and more prevalent as a result of mongers paying double, triple, and more than what the locals pay.

Unfortunately with Asia being shut down, I am seeing boatloads of mongers who normally would frequent Thailand and the Philippines showing up in El Centro and upsetting the apple cart.

And lots of these mongers have been over paying, and as a result the girls are now asking for way more money when dealing with a gringo.

The "gringo hunters" are very aggressive, and when they spot a gringo, they give them the google eye, come up to them, and shake their booty around which typically they would not do with a local.

Case in point, and this truly illustrates how bad it is. I at times when I see a candy girl of interest will approach them, hand them 500 Pesos, grab whatever is in the bag, and check the merchandise out. Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way. This candy girl was not actively looking for a gringo, but thru the grapevine the street walkers are aware that the gringos are overpaying and trying to get in on the bounty..[/QUOTE]I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.

So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?

How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?

I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2603125]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.[/QUOTE]You're talking about "rights"? It's a free World. One has the right to pay whatever they want.

Also the vast majority of fellow mongers I've met could afford to give each girl 1 Million pesos or more. Just like they could afford to pay a car dealer sticker + $10,000. I'm not saying that would be a good idea. It wouldn't, and I personally try to not to overpay for multiple reasons.

Of course, mongers that don't want the unknowledgeable hobbyists to ruin a location have the "right" not to share what they know.

There's very little correlation between a monger's wealth and what he pays the chicas. The correlation (negative) is how experienced they are in this hobby.

"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2602865]All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.

Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.

If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Your report most definitely belongs in the category for reports of distinction in my book.

I haven't lived here as long as you, yet can totally relate to what your saying based on my personal experiences here over the past five years.

Unfortunately, with the exception of a handful of board members, most of the guidelines you have provide will fall on deaf ears.

Some of your bullet points are very abstract in a sense, with the culture being so different, and at times I say to myself, how can that be, but it is.

Totally mind boggling the culture here as it defies logic.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?

Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]Do you speak any Spanish at all? You won't be "maximizing" your funds by staying in Poblado. Everything there is more expensive. Hotels, food, taxi fares, girls will elevate their price for people staying there" and on top of everything else the traffice from the Northern regions (like Bello) will be a lot longer so you will be waiting more on top of everything else. Try Laureles would be my recommendation.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.[/QUOTE]Yes if the hotel / apartment takes her ID information (like they do at San Peter or Hotel Dorado) then the girl is essentially on notice that if anything bad happens her information will be passed on to the police. I've never heard of a attack / drugging incident at a hotel that takes their ID information and records / saves it.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?[/QUOTE]Absolutely you can go to a short term hotel. And no they are not all in el centro. They are all over. You could try Thematic Luxury on Calle 33 or Thematic on Calle 51. The advantage is that you will be electronically locked in the room and won't be able to leave until they check the mini-bar and the guy calls the desk to initiate the exit. So no girl is going to drug you if she can't get out of the room. You will pay an extra 50-60 mil for using Thematic and that is for 4 hours. I don't know what you will pay for overnight.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.

At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]You can do that too (rent another room in el centro) other options are to go to some of the casas they are all over the place. El centro, Laureles, Belen.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2603155]Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8[/URL]

According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.

[URL]https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw that same post on FB as you, sad to watch the parents back in New York, really sad for them.

Yes something is amiss with the story. Not much details on the surrounding story so probably another 'weekend warrior" gringo dude with a Bronx NY tough guy attitude comes down to play with the putas, do drugs, drink like a sailor on leave and thinks that bad shit can't happen to him, he was wrong.

RIP.

The Tall Man.

[URL]https://youtu.be/KdaRQkbySq4?t=436[/URL]

Is this the pregnant chick you all been hunting for? Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602986]Tru that. I am seeing The Law of Supply and Demand express itself in pure form. I was there today and three times straight up the girls without hesitation quoted me a rate of 40 mil.[/QUOTE]It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.

So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?

All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.

And it's that simple.

I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2602969] The "new" gringos out here are messing up the prices but especially all the girl's attitudes.[/QUOTE]Your right on the mark here.

And God forbid if the Chicas whip out the Tijuana playback and start quoting 20 minutes, 2 positions, and pants off only for 40 K.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603198]"Slim. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on.[/QUOTE]What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603208]It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.

So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?

All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.

And it's that simple.

I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happ6ens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.[/QUOTE]I love it when people agree with me and don't even know it. What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up. The only argument you can make is whether or not this is a free market, which not one mongering soul here has ever done.

Talk to me about barriers of entry for putas entering the market or leaving the market or the number of Gringos that are coming in on jet planes or the inelasticity of the market which would actually be a valid point, or that regulations and laws are setting price controls, but otherwise all you're doing is making my point for me and obfuscating the terms.

Thanks for your help, whether intentional or not. Your corruption argument is based on emotion and projection which has nothing to do with price. I said it I don't know how many times here I don't know why no one seems to understand it, the price you pay has nothing to do with setting the price in a free market. Convince me this is not a free-market but nobody has even broached that subject, as I already said above.

I'm not an economist it's not even in my wheelhouse all I did was take a master's-level course 25 years ago and now I'm regurgitating Economics 101. I can't believe there's not one expert on this entire board who can back me up or explain it better than me because obviously I'm doing a lousy job. Somebody help me or at least frame the argument properly. Geez, I'm headed back down to El Centro to do something fun.

It's okay to not be a subject matter expert on every goddamn thing that has to do with anything with Medellin, no one is.

Definitely time for a random gratuitous photo, jaja.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603198]"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.[/QUOTE]So let's cut to the chase on this and your foray into Centro.

Looks like you had a female Humpty Dumpty with you in the room for a rato.

How was it, any afterglow after doing the deed with her. LOL.

She wasn't a bareback cream pie girl was she?

If so, I'm going to have to keep an eye out for that one, just my cup of tea! LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with the men being honest here? You are doing your typical rallying cry against a straw man. I have never said money and quality always correlate. In fact, I have said that Alejandra in Santa Fe blew away Kiara for a 1/3 the price.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. [/QUOTE]So what? She could be totally fake and my point still stands. On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.

The pricing on here is pretty good when it comes to places like clubs and casas where the prices are fixed, but they were terrible when I first went to Santa Fe. I wanted to know what I was doing wrong, and I talked to a local, and he said that what I was seeing and doing was the same as him. I could fuck women on the cheap like guys here brag about in SF as long as I was willing to forget about looks and fuck in a shitty hotel.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2603194]I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.

So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?

How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?

I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if any one is interested in my advice, but I will take a shot at it and I know others can better articulate my thoughts on this.

You should not have the mindset of over-paying as this may limit you.

Mongering in Centro is not like other mongering destinations in the World where there are set prices and menus more or less.

In essence, consider mongering in El Centro like the Wild West.

Anything goes, and most of the time all that your asking about is available for a price.

However, what one guy pays a Chica for the services you mentioned, another guy may pay a lot more for or a lot less.

Depends on a lot of factors with lots of variables.

There's been a lot of changes as of lately in El Centro, with the biggest change over the past four years with the onslaught of Venezuelans, and now the onslaught of mongers as a result of the Pandemic.

Pricing for basic covered service should range from as low as 20 K for a very undesirable Chica up to say 40 K for something much better, however six months ago it would of been more like 30 K.

I know of guys in Centro who are getting the 'full monty" for as low as 50 K, and some guys paying a lot more than this.

Again, think in terms of the Wild West in Centro.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?

Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.

1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.

2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?

3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.

At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]Your question is about safely doing outcall girls but you keep mentioning El Centro. If you are doing Outcall girls then just forget about El Centro. If you want to mix in street walkers than by all means go to El Centro but to your basic question what is the safest way to do outcall and FB girls. You covered that in number one. Stay in a reputable building with professional security to check their Cedual (ID) when they come to the building. I am a lazy ass monger period. Last trip I went down to El Centro one time, Parque Lleras a couple of times but I mostly stayed in my apartment and messaged the chicas to come to me and ordered Rappi to eat as much as I went out to eat.