[QUOTE=DazeUp;2476003]Yes, tip away, but I don't think the OP was talking about tipping, he was talking about paying over market price.[/QUOTE]Yes, indeed, he was. You are correct. And what I see as common between tipping and paying over market price is that both are paying over market price. So really, what's the difference? Should not both be considered, according to some, as "spoiling the market"? Do you also object to tipping because you think it may, or has already, led to a rate increase?
Then there is the question of when is one "paying over market price"? For example, in the NEP area at one time not many years ago you could find street ladies of varying looks from below average to average to above average all requesting the same price of 1000 baht. That includes former NEP hot girls who would have IMO been superstars working inside NEP. If a guy says 2000 baht to her after she asks 1000 baht, do you seriously think that is "paying over market price" or that there is no chance you will get better service as a result? Or a better chance to hook her as a regular or she will not be happier than otherwise in your room?
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2476003]There are many poor people in LOS, if you're trying to help the poor you hit the wrong demographic. Girls that are getting around 3000 for an hour's work don't really fit into this demographic that you're looking to help out of the kindness of your heart.[/QUOTE]I usually have targeted those who typically ask about 1000 baht. My thinking on this is they are poor relative to sex workers in my home country. Also relative to first world escorts, those in the Land of Smiles are more likely to be engaged in this line of employment to help more people, such as poor family members, relatives, friends, etc. Often these are those living in poor villages.
OTOH, if you can believe what I read somewhere the other day, one could go to a place like Bangladesh, even poorer, & help "pay for play" females who may only ask three dollars for their services. I'll call that an "inside tip" for "cheap charlies" everywhere;.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2476003]And here is the line that gives it all away and proves a lot of mongers here are correct when they talk about spoiling the market and raising rates if there is enough of this logic going around. Please bear with me on this one. I live in a country where people get by with 300 USD a month. It's not a great living but we get by. Being that's the case, girls are happy to accept 20 USD per session, they'll accept less but are happy with it because they make that 300 USD in a week rather that in a month.
Along comes Freddie who pays 200 USD per session in his home country. Gives a model girl 50 USD for her service based on his logic that its way more costly where he comes from. Word gets around that Freddie's can pay that much, girls start asking for 50 from the many Freddie's coming into town. Model girls no longer happy that they're getting paid the same rate as regular sue, so they start asking Freddie's for 80 USD and get it because Freddie just paid 50 for Sue. And the wheel keeps spinning.[/QUOTE]No doubt paying over market rates occurs by a percentage of customers. And this has affected the thinking of certain Thai ladies. Though how much it has raised prices has not, to my knowledge, been scientifically studied. Would you care to guess how much it has raised prices, if anything at all? And if so, what evidence leads you to your conclusion.
Over payment is not merely a uniquely Thailand phenomenon, but there are johns doing this everywhere. In Canada over years rates have been rising like crazy. Possibly due to factors such as inflation, the influx of rich Chinese, economic prosperity or whatever.
With the coronavirus situation, however, we may be seeing things change for the better for those still able to afford this hobby. Fewer clients & more workers. Supply & demand. And, for some, Bangladesh still awaits them as a, so to speak, unexplored or "virgin" territory. Go forth and conquer! And, as a bank commercial said, "save your money"!
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2476003]If she is reluctant to BBFS to begin with, better not pressure / entice her to do it with more money. This is the opposite of being kind hearted. Find another that is ok with it. This has been discussed extensively in ETs posts, kindly read.[/QUOTE]Maybe she is reluctant for no reason other than she expects more money. If she says no, then you can leave it at that. No means no. Except, of course, when it means "2000 not enough, 3000", LOL. It may also mean "I have HIV" or "I don't want to get pregnant" or "I have a boyfriend", etc.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2476003]It's clear that you have been identified as a mark and targeted on more that one occasion, never have the more sensible mongers heard girls speaking about getting 100 k from other mongers because the girls have not marked them.[/QUOTE]As long as she doesn't "mark" me as a tomcat does, I'm good with her thinking whatever she likes and me not knowing it. As they say, "ignorance is bliss"! Be well, live long and fuck!
