Capitalism didn't kill it. The environmental lobby killed it.
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Capitalism didn't kill it. The environmental lobby killed it.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2613982]Okay, I know I shouldn't engage, but let's just take one of your claims -- crude oil prices. Here is a chart of WTI through the Trump years until now:
From Trump's inaguration, WTI oscillated around $65 or $70 until April 2020, when it plunged to $20/ bbl -- why? Demand cratered because of the pandemic -- remember?. Many producers took wells and equipment off line -- why? Because they couldn't make money at that price. With regards to heavy crude, and particularly tar sand oil, the break even price is estimated to be $80/ bbl. Now that the pandemic is lessening, demand is increasing but production still lags.
Okay, Biden cancelled a key permit for the XL pipeline, but it has been doomed for years because of oil prices and the inability to get private financing. Banks only loaned money to it when the loans were guaranteed by the Alberta government. That pipeline was a stupid idea, and the only thing that sustained it was government money. Capitalism killed it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for destroying his argument about oil supplies.
Now I will destroy his argument about who voted to defund the police. The House Republicans did. Unanimously:
[b]Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman.
Chris Wallace quizzes Jim Banks of Indiana on Fox News Sunday.
Biden: $350bn in bill opposed by GOP is for law enforcement[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]
And who is threatening to defund the police, defund the military, defund our border control, defund everything by refusing to raise the debt limit to pay for the Trillion$ Trump and his Repubs flushed down the shitter with less than zero to show for it?
Well, it ain't Biden and the Dems.
Guess who?
And the "great" Keystone XL pipeline championed by Repubs despite the fact that it was never going to make a barrel of oil cheaper for the USA, only more expensive, and it was only going to create a whopping 35 permanent USA jobs?
Dogshit.
Here is a big energy industry and jobs creation WIN for the USA:
[B]U.S. Loosens China Grip on $46 Billion Lithium-Battery Industry[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-loosens-china-grip-46-183816587.html[/URL]
[quote](Bloomberg) -- The USA Is narrowing the gap on China's dominance of the $46 billion lithium-ion battery industry thanks to investments from Tesla Inc. and the Biden administration's policy push to drive growth of electric vehicles.[/quote]
Thanks, Joe. Bet nobody here heard a word about this in the so-called "pro Dem, pro lib" Mainstream Media.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2613963]
[b]Jajajaja[/b]
[URL]https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/576192-jon-stewart-says-trump-has-a-very-good-chance-in-2024[/URL][/QUOTE]But why limit your "Jaja"s" to just comedian Jon Stewart's prediction for the outcome of the 2024 election?
2016:
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-2016-election-donald-trump-2016-11[/URL]
[QUOTE]Speaking at the Bob Woodruff "Stand Up for Heroes" comedy benefit in New York on Tuesday, Stewart offered an election prediction only he could dream up: that it would end in a tie between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump where O.J. Simpson shows up in a white Ford Bronco with JonBenet Ramsey in tow to cast the deciding vote.[/QUOTE]2020:
[b]"I'm terrified!"[/b]
(uh, no, not by the prospect of Biden winning)
[URL]https://youtu.be/IPNOvWoLKwI[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2614010]Thanks for destroying his argument about oil supplies.
Now I will destroy his argument about who voted to defund the police. The House Republicans did. Unanimously:
[b]Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman.
Chris Wallace quizzes Jim Banks of Indiana on Fox News Sunday.
Biden: $350bn in bill opposed by GOP is for law enforcement[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]
And who is threatening to defund the police, defund the military, defund our border control, defund everything by refusing to raise the debt limit to pay for the Trillion$ Trump and his Repubs flushed down the shitter with less than zero to show for it?[/QUOTE]I proved my point easily. I am the only democrat on this site that won't ignore the Biden administration disasters. In California most of my friends are democrats. Some are socialists similar to the posters on this site. My democrat friends are realizing that Biden is doing a terrible job especially at the border as this affects San Diego. Most of my friends are blaming Biden for high gas prices and inflation. My socialist friends are very similar to you. They defend Biden and blame Trump or others for Biden failures. And they talk amongst their socialist friends and they agree. Fortunately elections are only a year away and hope is on site.
I can't believe how many people on this site have been duped by the far left. Truly amazing.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2614080]I proved my point easily. I am the only democrat on this site that won't ignore the Biden administration disasters. In California most of my friends are democrats. Some are socialists similar to the posters on this site. My democrat friends are realizing that Biden is doing a terrible job especially at the border as this affects San Diego. Most of my friends are blaming Biden for high gas prices and inflation. My socialist friends are very similar to you. They defend Biden and blame Trump or others for Biden failures. And they talk amongst their socialist friends and they agree. Fortunately elections are only a year away and hope is on site.
I can't believe how many people on this site have been duped by the far left. Truly amazing.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but blathering easily debunked inaccuracies as you have done does not prove any point other than that you would probably easily win the vote on that nomination for the least informed self-proclaimed Democrat on the board I'm trying to swing for you.
Look, I want to help you achieve the Special Distinction Award you apparently crave here. But that one is the only distinction your hard work has yet earned.
Hey, the upside for you is as a Democrat you have probably voted for more Dems and therefore many more U.S. economic recoveries and expansions, including this current historic one (assuming you did vote for Biden) and possibly none of the horrific Repub Crashes and Massive USA Job Losses, than any self-proclaimed Repubs or supposed "conservatives" you know.
That puts you way, WAY ahead of them for doing something positive for America, a distinction worthy of your pride.
And that's the most important thing you've done even if you don't know that's what you did.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2613994]Thanks for the laugh. First time I've heard Joe Biden called a Capitalist.[/QUOTE]I've lost count of the number of times Dems had to rescue and revive American Capitalism from near total destruction by idiotic Repub mishandling of it. I submit even purposeful Repub mishandling of it. Biden was there to vote for the rescue a few times, was once assigned the duty of leading the successful Dem rescue team by a Dem POTUS another time and is leading the successful rescue of it again now.
In virtually every case it was with zero help from the Repubs who worked very hard to destroy it and, if anything, they provide only obstruction and other methods to drag out the rescue and recovery process, prolong the pain and deepen the damage done to America and Americans by their efforts. Same as today.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2613991]No.
You are one of the Trumpster Republicans that quit posting out of embarrassment two months ago over past posts you made (when they get quoted).
So now you use a new handle foisting a fake personality and background.[/QUOTE]If somebody has some evidence or data from credible sources other than his/her equally ill-informed circle jerkle of friends that "Biden is destroying America" by causing gas prices to spike, murders to increase, choosing to defund the police, following International and Federal law by not denying foreign refugees and so on, I am willing to give it a looksee and considering changing my mind about him, Trump, whoever.
But absolutely no evidence, no data, no links from a credible source or anything else other than heartfelt anecdotes about some clods among ones drinking buddies just doesn't cut it for me.
Meanwhile, the internet is loaded with clear and unambiguous explanations from reputable sources citing data and evidence for why gas prices are spiking now, having tiny-to-zero to do with Biden's policies (other than his historic recovery from Trump's Great Repub Recession et al, which is a much better option than continuing to slide downward into the final death of Capitalism at the hands of the Repubs). Here is one from Forbes:
[b]Revisiting The Blame For High Gas Prices[/b]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2021/09/26/revisiting-the-blame-for-high-gas-prices/?sh=5397f572e31e[/URL]
Murders DID spike 30% to record highs under Trump and the rate has been declining under Biden. I posted the report of it from the NYT earlier because that was the first entry that came up in a Google Search. But you can read the same report of it from the Wall Street Journal:
[b]Murders Rose Nearly 30% in the U.S. in 2020, FBI Reports[/b]
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/murders-rose-nearly-30-percent-in-the-u-s-in-2020-fbi-reports-11632769332[/URL]
Here is my link citing and quoting verbatim Fox News Channel slamming a Repub Congressman for lying about which party is actually trying to defund the police. The House Republicans are the only ones voting to defund the police. Unanimously:
[b]Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman.
Chris Wallace quizzes Jim Banks of Indiana on Fox News Sunday.
Biden: $350bn in bill opposed by GOP is for law enforcement[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]
Of course, everyone knows Forbes, Rupert Murdoch's WSJ and Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel are truly amazing instruments of the far left created to dupe Dems and "libs". LOL.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2614098]Sorry, but blathering easily debunked inaccuracies as you have done does not prove any point other than that you would probably easily win the vote on that nomination for the least informed self-proclaimed Democrat on the board I'm trying to swing for you.
Look, I want to help you achieve the Special Distinction Award you apparently crave here. But that one is the only distinction your hard work has yet earned.
Hey, the upside for you is as a Democrat you have probably voted for more Dems and therefore many more U.S. economic recoveries and expansions, including this current historic one (assuming you did vote for Biden) and possibly none of the horrific Repub Crashes and Massive USA Job Losses, than any self-proclaimed Repubs or supposed "conservatives" you know.
That puts you way, WAY ahead of them for doing something positive for America, a distinction worthy of your pride.
And that's the most important thing you've done even if you don't know that's what you did.[/QUOTE]You are correct. These are not facts in socialists fantasyland.
In fantasyland oil is not $80 a barrel. Natural gas has not gone up 118% since Biden took office. Gas is not $4. 59 average in California. In fantasyland the southern border is closed and illegals and drugs are not pouring into our country.
In fantasyland there is no inflation. In fantasyland the only people committing crimes are police.
In fantasyland Biden is doing a good job.
Well unfortunately I live in California. The people I voted for Biden and Newsome are killing our state. Their policies are killing small business and crime and homeless are completely out of control. The democratic government in California and the USA are failing the people that voted for them. Unfortunately there are people like you that are brainwashed into thinking it is different. Fortunately a lot of my friends and other democrats are seeing this and hopefully there are more smart democrats in the USA than people like you.
I do not know which city you live in but if you are in a democrat run city and you can say there is no inflation and there is no increase in crime then you are not living in USA.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2614080]I can't believe how many people on this site have been duped by the far left. Truly amazing.[/QUOTE]Believe it. I've never seen so many stupid and misinformed people in my life.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2614148]If somebody has some evidence or data from credible sources other than his/her equally ill-informed circle jerkle of friends that "Biden is destroying America" by causing gas prices to spike, murders to increase, choosing to defund the police, following International and Federal law by not denying foreign refugees and so on, I am willing to give it a looksee and considering changing my mind about him, Trump, whoever.[/QUOTE]I agree that Biden definitely isn't destroying America. The guy doesn't even know what planet he's on.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2614265]You are correct. These are not facts in socialists fantasyland.
In fantasyland oil is not $80 a barrel. Natural gas has not gone up 118% since Biden took office. Gas is not $4. 59 average in California. In fantasyland the southern border is closed and illegals and drugs are not pouring into our country.
In fantasyland there is no inflation. In fantasyland the only people committing crimes are police.
In fantasyland Biden is doing a good job.
Well unfortunately I live in California. The people I voted for Biden and Newsome are killing our state. Their policies are killing small business and crime and homeless are completely out of control. The democratic government in California and the USA are failing the people that voted for them. Unfortunately there are people like you that are brainwashed into thinking it is different. Fortunately a lot of my friends and other democrats are seeing this and hopefully there are more smart democrats in the USA than people like you.
I do not know which city you live in but if you are in a democrat run city and you can say there is no inflation and there is no increase in crime then you are not living in USA.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/business/stocks-inflation-stagflation.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/10/13/business/news-business-stock-market[/URL]
Politico asked close to 2,000 republican voters who they wanted for their next run at president, and the results are as follows:
47% Donald Trump.
12% Mike Pence.
12% Ron DeSantis.
6% Donald Trump Jr.
3% Marco Rubio.
3% Mitt Romney.
3% Nikki Haley.
3% Ted Cruz.
2% Liz Cheney.
Quite honestly I am in favor of Donald Trump being the next GOP presidential nominee.
It will greatly increase the chance of the next democratic nominee will win.
Running against TrumpShit's crappy performance, record, results will be easy-peasy.
Nothing else will bring a greater shrinkage and death to that grand old party.
Go Shit Go!
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2614265]You are correct. These are not facts in socialists fantasyland.
In fantasyland oil is not $80 a barrel. Natural gas has not gone up 118% since Biden took office. Gas is not $4. 59 average in California. In fantasyland the southern border is closed and illegals and drugs are not pouring into our country.
In fantasyland there is no inflation. In fantasyland the only people committing crimes are police.
In fantasyland Biden is doing a good job.
Well unfortunately I live in California. The people I voted for Biden and Newsome are killing our state. Their policies are killing small business and crime and homeless are completely out of control. The democratic government in California and the USA are failing the people that voted for them. Unfortunately there are people like you that are brainwashed into thinking it is different. Fortunately a lot of my friends and other democrats are seeing this and hopefully there are more smart democrats in the USA than people like you.
I do not know which city you live in but if you are in a democrat run city and you can say there is no inflation and there is no increase in crime then you are not living in USA.[/QUOTE]In tRUMPworld, the pandemic didn't cause low gasoline usage for 12+ months and didn't cause the entire industry to slow down.
In tRUMPworld, "supply and demand" are BS fake news things and don't mean squat.
In tRUMPworld, inflation is only confined to the US and if other countries are experiencing inflation, it is Biden's fault.
In tRUMPworld, the Republican mantra of "actions have consequences" only applies to Democrats.
In tRUMPworld, "my body, my choice" applies to vaccines only.
In tRUMPworld, tRUMP never made a mistake.
In tRUMPworld, cult members are clueless about the meaning of socialism, communism, fascism, racisn, misogynism, xenophobia and homophibia.
Instead of complaining about California, move to Texas or Florida.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2614358]In tRUMPworld, the pandemic didn't cause low gasoline usage for 12+ months and didn't cause the entire industry to slow down.
In tRUMPworld, "supply and demand" are BS fake news things and don't mean squat.
In tRUMPworld, inflation is only confined to the US and if other countries are experiencing inflation, it is Biden's fault.
In tRUMPworld, the Republican mantra of "actions have consequences" only applies to Democrats.
In tRUMPworld, "my body, my choice" applies to vaccines only.
In tRUMPworld, tRUMP never made a mistake.
In tRUMPworld, cult members are clueless about the meaning of socialism, communism, fascism, racisn, misogynism, xenophobia and homophibia.
Instead of complaining about California, move to Texas or Florida.[/QUOTE]Trump, Trump, Trump. Biden has been in office for almost a year and is destroying America and you are still talking about Trump. Trump isn't president anymore. Even CNN is starting to report the Biden disasters. Wake up. You can't be this naive? Biden is a wreck. Ignoring Biden failures and talking about Trump will not make the situation better. Only the rich can move away but people like me can't move as easily. I am looking at opportunities in other states and the first one that comes I am gone. I am not going to remain a fool like the other democrats. If you think Biden is going to continue to give you free stuff until you die you are going to be very disappointed.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2614358]In tRUMPworld, "my body, my choice" applies to vaccines only..[/QUOTE]I recently pointed out the hypocrisy of the democrats that say they are all about freedom of choice.
Leave it to a democrat to try to steal it and flip it around jajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.