Nairobi

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;3022137]IPhone 16 basic model starts at $800 (100 k ksh) That's about 7 months salary for girls with good jobs. For the vast majority, it could be around 10 months salary. As you sated before, find out how much local men pay for dates and pussy. What is a typical budget for African men to spend on girls and how they do it. Then you do the math and add a suitable foreigner surcharge and viola you have your spending budget. I don't usually buy phones, but I got one of my girls a used Tecno phone, and she was happy. That's why I like Luhya girl they are more humble.[/QUOTE]If you like her much. Buy her an Infinix. I switched to Infinix which is the high end brand. Same company as Tecno. The low cost brand again of the same company is Itel.

Available everywhere in Africa.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3019544]Fair question.

The no condoms thing is only because I have never been in a city like Nairobi where there are so many girls, to the point where I found no need for p4 p. Meaning, I only focused on nonpros, normal university girls that are NOT selling box, and had actual serious relationships with them so the risk therefore is very low. I happily spent on them and partied hard, but never have I experienced those types of fun.

Especially coming from the states, we aint used to seeing black girls being sweet and submissive, not in this manner, gorgeous ones too. That itself is a huge culture shock. It's like a diff universe. Plus I can sit and listen to those women speak all day with that beautiful English accent.

There are some rachet and ghetto ones too, but bc of the abundance, you can easily filter and chery pick from a huge majority.

Remember I stayed an entire 6 months, rented my own apt after month 1, bought furniture and everything. There were like several that I dated for few months. When we met, many had a patch on their arm or whatever that planning stuff is to not get pregnant, and I made two get it, and another one just took plan be pills next day or birth control pills. Couple thought they got pregnant and weren't couple of them lied twice when it was break up time, to keep me around but I uncovered the truth LOL. There were very minor issues, nothing grave, little lies, at times didn't want to leave.

STORY TIME:

I kicked out one for withholding some important info from me, lied about something that I couldn't accept. Basically, she lived with a girl roommate, who one day had a family urgency and had to move back to the village. So, my girl then would have no place to stay. My girl then told me she had another girlfriend she could stay with, and I said ok and following the situation. As we spent few days together, at that time we had only met for a month, comes in and out.

In my thinking, worst case scenario ID just tell her to move in, but then she had that second GF. I'm thinking all is fine. So one day she said she's going home to move remove her stuff from gf1 to gf2, as gf1 is getting ready to lock the place down and leave to her village. But before she left my place, she said, hey just in case gf2 isn't avail, can I bring my stuff here temporarily. I replied sure why not. Upon return, I asked did you find the new place for your stuff, since she came empty handed. She replied yes. Since she was abnormally quiet, I insisted that she tells me what's going on? She refused to answer, went in the room, quiet for like a half hour. I know when a woman feels guilty about something or lying. I went after her in the room, asked her to leave unless she tells me what's going on. Then she said gf2 wasn't avail, and she moved her stuff to her cousin's place. She lied again and said was a female cousin, caught her whispering on the phone few times before, and always said it was her cousin. But that day, I insisted she tells me the truth by asking why do you often whisper? It's a male cousin isn't it? Or could be your local BF? She then said yes it's a guy cousin.

At that point, trust is gone. She confirms, dude only has 1 bed, speaking of her make cousin, and she had planned to sleeping on his bed. Blah blah. At this point I'm thinkiing, she's testing me to see if I get jealous cause no woman would tell you that and not expecting a reaction. Or she's telling the truth and it's a guy cousin. People there are poor, and many people there host friends and family and share a bad. Hosting means you come stay with me, sleep in my bed, you get no key, and you come home when I'm home. That sort of thing. So being a guy with lots of hunnies, no way I'm going to forgive that especially bc she lied first. So it's suspicious at best and I don't do that. I make decision quickly in everything and zero time for bullshit.

She's thrown out immediately by me.

That same night incl the next few days she kept on returning, begging, she even slept outside the door, I had to threat calling the police, and security had to come escort her out and threatened arrest. That's the last I saw of her. She did text me and said sorry, said I was right to be upset. She said on the following night when she went to the cousin, he tried having sex with her, she declined and he too kicked her out. She rented a hotel for few days, with money I had given her, and she thanked me for that otherwise would be in the streets. She since then got her own apt after that.

I told that story to a couple friends there, and they said beautiful women in Kenya don't go homeless, and that she was trying to play me. Either to make me jealous to invite her to move in, or some other weird agenda that may have backfired on her LOL.

So things like that, or even lesser events than that I would cut them out of the roster. You have to be strict to do what I do. Keep them in check.

She respected it, even told me her friends said I was right and no tourist would accept their women on another man's bed, cousin or not. At least she should've told me first she had no other option, and ID ask her to move in. My prob was the lie, multiple times. Yes fellas, not paying hookers come with real GF dramas, some arguments, high blood pressure, shit we had left behind. LOL. It's all good cause at least we're living and it's confirmation we still have a pulse.

That's the most intense prob that occurred and only with one. Some gents here have had similar stories. Don't mislead too much cz they will want to continue getting your support, your comfort, and will not want to go. (that's when you'll get a text in few days that she's pregnant. But a lie and it's just to get you back). I need to be more careful, incl taking one back is a risk as they may return for revenge hence my story.

As far std, I do what most mongers do in this forum, got them tested first, except for a couple. We all take risks, hopefully a good balance between that and being foolish. Every guy is diff as far as what they do when it comes to that so I didn't feel the need to elaborate. Now if I did visit massage parlors or brothels or hardcore working p4 p girls, I would strap up like every cust. But In Nairobi bro those were literally my wives, seriously.

When you get there you will want to move there ASAP. It's a crazy vibe. That was the hardest exit from any prior trip in decades of traveling. I wanted to give up on everything and settle there. But then I woke the fuck up especially since some of my Colombiana wives were contacting me begging me to return LOL.[/QUOTE]I read your post well and I understand that you have sex without a condom, I admit that it has happened to me sometimes too. However, I wonder if you are not afraid of the consequences of pregnancy. How would you behave at that point? Just a few days ago a friend of mine from Germany wrote to me from Mombasa and told me he was terrified because he got a girl pregnant and he was afraid. She told him after a few months with her belly already evidentI told him: run away or commit suicide. I'm joking of course. But if it's not a scam it's definitely a huge problem for the German friend.

[QUOTE=SuperChuck;3023558]I read your post well and I understand that you have sex without a condom, I admit that it has happened to me sometimes too. However, I wonder if you are not afraid of the consequences of pregnancy. How would you behave at that point? Just a few days ago a friend of mine from Germany wrote to me from Mombasa and told me he was terrified because he got a girl pregnant and he was afraid. She told him after a few months with her belly already evidentI told him: run away or commit suicide. I'm joking of course. But if it's not a scam it's definitely a huge problem for the German friend.[/QUOTE]I know one Swiss guy who believed that Mombasa girlfriend takes care of contraception or child prevention, taking pills. She did not, she trusted that musungu will take care of the baby and of her. Which he did, although Swiss guy did not want baby originally, and that girl was just a girl friend for one vacation. Now Mombasa girl is in Switcherland with the cappuzino baby and her previous African child. I don't think that she is with that Swiss guy, probably working in some club. And probably still supported by Swiss guy.

Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl.

So, biggest threat with sex without condom is not sexual disease, it is these pregnancy things, mostly fake but sometimes true. I would not trust these girls who are saying they are taking pills.

[QUOTE=Leblon;3023573]I know one Swiss guy who believed that Mombasa girlfriend takes care of contraception or child prevention, taking pills. She did not, she trusted that musungu will take care of the baby and of her. Which he did, although Swiss guy did not want baby originally, and that girl was just a girl friend for one vacation. Now Mombasa girl is in Switcherland with the cappuzino baby and her previous African child. I don't think that she is with that Swiss guy, probably working in some club. And probably still supported by Swiss guy.

Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl.

So, biggest threat with sex without condom is not sexual disease, it is these pregnancy things, mostly fake but sometimes true. I would not trust these girls who are saying they are taking pills.[/QUOTE]Fuck! So the Swiss took her to Switzerland? But couldn't he refuse? How much can it cost to support a child in Kenya come on.

[QUOTE=Leblon;3023573]I know one Swiss guy who believed that Mombasa girlfriend takes care of contraception or child prevention, taking pills. She did not, she trusted that musungu will take care of the baby and of her. Which he did, although Swiss guy did not want baby originally, and that girl was just a girl friend for one vacation. Now Mombasa girl is in Switcherland with the cappuzino baby and her previous African child. I don't think that she is with that Swiss guy, probably working in some club. And probably still supported by Swiss guy.

Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl..[/QUOTE]I don't understand, did he take her to Switzerland? But couldn't he refuse? But how much does it cost to support a child in Kenya come on. I don't think too much.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;3022302]If you like her much. Buy her an Infinix. [/QUOTE]If she likes you, you won't have to buy her shit.

[QUOTE=Leblon;3023573]0Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl.[/QUOTE]Common trick is that I have a vasectomy. So if any chick comes to me talking about an abortion I tell her that she can not kill my baby. Soon enough they all have miscarriages for some strange reason. One chick even told me she drank some abortion tea.

[QUOTE=Oiste;3023589]I don't understand, did he take her to Switzerland? But couldn't he refuse? But how much does it cost to support a child in Kenya come on. I don't think too much.[/QUOTE]It was a long story, he started to like the baby, not the girl. He came to visit Mombasa many times to see the child. Then eventually girl started to visit Switcherland. And she is there now, but I have no idea what is their arrangement there. Not in relationship, that much I know. So maybe there was a happy ending at the end, guy got a son although originally he did not want any baby, now he is probably happy that the girl lied him about pills, he has son that he likes. Boy is already many years old. And girl got to live in Switcherland at the end, no idea how much she get support from the man.

Generally white men take care of their children even though they were not planning to make any babies. Generally, not all. African men, they run away.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3023590]If she likes you, you won't have to buy her shit.[/QUOTE]Ah. The great Africa Expert. I defer to you great Massa. With these numbers of posts you can t possibly be wrong.

Better stay in Thailand or Brazil. Where you belong.

Mwalimu.

You are right.

Just pay Cash.

I'm planning my first trip to Kenya. When I set my tinder location to Nairobi, of the first 20 girls being shown to me, 7 called themselves bi in her profile. Sometimes this was the only text in her profile. What's going on here?

[QUOTE=Leblon;3023641]It was a long story, he started to like the baby, not the girl. He came to visit Mombasa many times to see the child. Then eventually girl started to visit Switcherland. And she is there now, but I have no idea what is their arrangement there. Not in relationship, that much I know. So maybe there was a happy ending at the end, guy got a son although originally he did not want any baby, now he is probably happy that the girl lied him about pills, he has son that he likes. Boy is already many years old. And girl got to live in Switcherland at the end, no idea how much she get support from the man.

Generally white men take care of their children even though they were not planning to make any babies. Generally, not all. African men, they run away.[/QUOTE]A muzungu can't run away I supposed.

[QUOTE=SuperChuck;3023747]A muzungu can't run away I supposed.[/QUOTE]In any case, a few days ago I wrote about this German friend of mine who got this elusive girl pregnant. The girl has already been pregnant for a few months if I understand correctly. He wrote to me today saying that she told him she wants to go to the police to report him. She then told him that she can have an abortion but that abortion costs 20,000 shillings. It all seems so strange to me. I replied that I would discuss it here in the forum where he tried to sign up but is unable to activate registration. I advised him to pay these 20,000 but what certainty will he have?

[QUOTE=SuperChuck;3023764]In any case, a few days ago I wrote about this German friend of mine who got this elusive girl pregnant. The girl has already been pregnant for a few months if I understand correctly. He wrote to me today saying that she told him she wants to go to the police to report him. She then told him that she can have an abortion but that abortion costs 20,000 shillings. It all seems so strange to me. I replied that I would discuss it here in the forum where he tried to sign up but is unable to activate registration. I advised him to pay these 20,000 but what certainty will he have?[/QUOTE]The certainty is she puts the 20 k in her pocket.

[QUOTE=SuperChuck;3023764]In any case, a few days ago I wrote about this German friend of mine who got this elusive girl pregnant. The girl has already been pregnant for a few months if I understand correctly. He wrote to me today saying that she told him she wants to go to the police to report him. She then told him that she can have an abortion but that abortion costs 20,000 shillings. It all seems so strange to me. I replied that I would discuss it here in the forum where he tried to sign up but is unable to activate registration. I advised him to pay these 20,000 but what certainty will he have?[/QUOTE]It's a fucking scam. That ***** is not pregnant. These fucking Kenyan girls think they are smart all the time. Your friend shouldn't give a dime. I'm so sick and tired of these scheming Kenyan girls.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3023717]I'm planning my first trip to Kenya. When I set my tinder location to Nairobi, of the first 20 girls being shown to me, 7 called themselves bi in her profile. Sometimes this was the only text in her profile. What's going on here?[/QUOTE]That was my experience using Badoo also. I haven't used Tinder since Badoo was more than enough years ago, just before my first Africa trip. In my experience, the Bisexual girls online are nasty scammers with feminist vibes. Many of them are in collage, indoctrinated far Left lunatics. I almost didn't go to Africa because of the negative experience online with them. I recommend that you avoid them. If you like bisexual girls, (I do) find them on the ground.