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[QUOTE=Manizales911;2454848]If anyone believes that the per capita numbers in the DR are THAT MUCH lower than they are in the countries listed then they are some kind of stupid.[/QUOTE]May 28.
With a population of 10,600,000, looks about right to stupid me!
Deaths Per Capita (per million) - 47.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2454919]May 28.
With a population of 10,600,000, looks about right to stupid me!
Deaths Per Capita (per million) - 47.[/QUOTE]Based on the 488 deaths reported by Coronavirus Bulletin #71 of the Ministry of Public Health, and confirmed by Johns Hopkins Global.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454476]Then what are you going to do when they tell you that you can not travel unless you have been vaccinated?[/QUOTE]Good point. But, there is a way around it. Check this out.
How to Decline a Vaccine Legally.
Step 1. Do not "refuse" a vaccine otherwise you'll be considered belligerent. Instead you can politely decline their services by doing the following.
Step 2. Ask the doctor if the vaccine has MRC-5 in it (they all do, these are aborted fetal cells and other DNA). If it does, you have the right to decline.
Step 3. Also ask if there is a possibility of a "latrogenic reation" (an adverse reaction caused by multiple compounds or drugs interacting with each other) from the vaccine (they all do). When the doctor says, "yes it does", that's your "Get Out of Vaccine Jail Free Card". Thank the doctor for their offer and walk away.
Remember, doctors have sworn the Hippocratic Oath (which is to do no harm) and they MUST honor it. This is how we can legally (and respectfully) decline their offered mandated services and there is absolutely NOTHING they can do about it! Now you know. At this point you should receive a waiver. Document it all. Do some research on vaccines and get educated.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455355]Good point. But, there is a way around it. Check this out.
How to Decline a Vaccine Legally.
Step 1. Do not "refuse" a vaccine otherwise you'll be considered belligerent. Instead you can politely decline their services by doing the following.
Step 2. Ask the doctor if the vaccine has MRC-5 in it (they all do, these are aborted fetal cells and other DNA). If it does, you have the right to decline.[/QUOTE]I do not think you get it. The point is not whether you have the right to decline the vaccine. The point is that countries have the right not to let you enter unless you have been vaccinated. It is the same with yellow fever. Some countries will not allow you to enter without proof that you have had the yellow fever vaccination, and it could be the same requirement should they come up with a C19 vaccination.
So once again, what is your plan should those countries you want to travel to announce that people that have not had the vaccine can not enter their country? Are you going to get vaccinated, or are you going to stay home?
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455355]How to Decline a Vaccine Legally.[/QUOTE]But why would I, in the first place?
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455355]Good point. But, there is a way around it. Check this out.
How to Decline a Vaccine Legally.
Step 1. Do not "refuse" a vaccine otherwise you'll be considered belligerent. Instead you can politely decline their services by doing the following.
Step 2. Ask the doctor if the vaccine has MRC-5 in it (they all do, these are aborted fetal cells and other DNA). If it does, you have the right to decline.
Step 3. Also ask if there is a possibility of a "latrogenic reation" (an adverse reaction caused by multiple compounds or drugs interacting with each other) from the vaccine (they all do). When the doctor says, "yes it does", that's your "Get Out of Vaccine Jail Free Card". Thank the doctor for their offer and walk away.[/QUOTE]1. It would not matter how polite you were, a doctor would simply think you were not very intelligent if you were to decline a COVID-19 vaccine. After all, the disease causes a horribly painful death and has already killed about 375,000 people in the world.
2. MRC-5 is NOT a commonly used cell line for vaccines. Most manufacturers use CHO cells (hamster fibroblasts). That being said, most of the vaccines under development do not use cell lines at all. They use RNA or DNA, which can be synthesized. Even the vaccines that are from whole killed virus, like polio vaccine is made, use Vero cells (which are monkey cells).
3. You need to use a dictionary and learn the proper definition of iatrogenic.
In addition, doctors don't mandate border policies, nor would most of them see vaccinating an individual to be against the Hippocratic oath. And while it is true that a vaccine might have bad consequences for a few unlucky individuals, they mostly have saved lives. Millions of lives.
Finally, I agree with Mr. E's comments below.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2455428]1. It would not matter how polite you were, a doctor would simply think you were not very intelligent if you were to decline a COVID-19 vaccine. After all, the disease causes a horribly painful death and has already killed about 375,000 people in the world.
2. MRC-5 is NOT a commonly used cell line for vaccines. Most manufacturers use CHO cells (hamster fibroblasts). That being said, most of the vaccines under development do not use cell lines at all. They use RNA or DNA, which can be synthesized. Even the vaccines that are from whole killed virus, like polio vaccine is made, use Vero cells (which are monkey cells).
3. You need to use a dictionary and learn the proper definition of iatrogenic.
In addition, doctors don't mandate border policies, nor would most of them see vaccinating an individual to be against the Hippocratic oath. And while it is true that a vaccine might have bad consequences for a few unlucky individuals, they mostly have saved lives. Millions of lives.
Finally, I agree with Mr. E's comments below.[/QUOTE]I have two questions for folks who take vaccines. 1. Do they really work? 2. Why do we still have the flu every year with ongoing vaccinations? Never let a good crisis go to waste. This is an excellent exercise in social engineering. They have done a hell of great job. I am just not the "yes" kind of guy nor do I follow the madness. With all due respect. DON'T FEAR!
Peace,
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2454569]The only way I'll get the vaccine is if its mandatory for travel. Bruh is right. No telling what's in that vaccine. Plus their rushing it. But of I can't fly without it I'll get it.[/QUOTE]So for all your intelligent research, specific knowledge of very real and specific risks and consequences, use of fetal cells, Hippocratic Oath workarounds and "who knows what they put into vaccines". You have already over-ridden your thinking brain with your emotional need to travel to see cheap hookers in far-off countries? Without knowing IF there is even going to be a vaccine, what is in it, how it affects others etc.
By your own logic, and that of other anti-vaxxers, you have already had too many brain damaging mercury preserved vaccines!
SMH while LOL.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455537]I have two questions for folks who take vaccines. 1. Do they really work? 2. Why do we still have the flu every year with ongoing vaccinations? Never let a good crisis go to waste. This is an excellent exercise in social engineering. They have done a hell of great job. I am just not the "yes" kind of guy nor do I follow the madness. With all due respect. DON'T FEAR!
Peace,[/QUOTE]Shirley you can't be serious?
Who do you think the "they" are who are having a bit of fun with "social engineering"? The Illuminati, George Soros, Bill Gates? And "they" have organized all this with thousands of Doctors (sworn to secrecy- pinky swear!) in a secret conspiracy to interfere with you?
By your logic, you should only take a vaccine that you developed. Highly unlikely if you don't have the critical thinking skills to know the answers to the questions you facetiously asked.
If you and the other anti-vaxxers want to see how ridiculous you look like to those who have gone to medical school for a decade, to start, and then continue to practice and learn to be able to understand biology, immunology, phyiology, etc etc. Go to YouTube and watch some aviation accident videos. Look for the comments from non-pilot know-it-alls who try to sound smart by explaining that the same thing happened when the "turbo whatchamacallit on my brother-in-law's cousins Cessna Piper Learjet failed to activate when the T-cell receptors did a loop-de-loop because he didn't file a Flight Plan when he almost crashed into a schoolyard of innocent children".
Seriously, this what anti-vaxxers sound like to those who actually have knowledge and education outside of the type of "research" materials Google and YouTube spoon feeds you based on your cookies and browsing history. You and the anti-vaxxers don't see real medical papers on Page One and I don't get "Recommended" YouTube videos of Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina detox rocks.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455537]I have two questions for folks who take vaccines. 1. Do they really work? [/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455537]2. Why do we still have the flu every year with ongoing vaccinations? [/QUOTE]Because the hundreds of Influenza A and be viruses move around the country and world all the time. They also change and evolve. They can change in two different ways—antigenic drift and antigenic shift.
The vaccine combinations try to forecast what virus might hit the particular area and formulate that year's combo-vaccine. If someone comes to Pulaskie West Virginia from Chile and infects someone with an influenza virus from Chile that was not expected in Pulaskie, then that vaccinated person gets a flu variant from Chile. If he passes it onto his sister during coitus, then it is likely their cousins will get it too. Unless they are doing it doggy style!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2455425]But why would I, in the first place?[/QUOTE]Because you (referring to the militant anti-vaxxers-not you) are smarter than Doctors, know about The Conspiracy and are not a "Yes Man".
You have to learn every lesson for yourself. You need to get infected and sick (with everything a vaccine could have prevented) to get your immunity the "organic" way.
What I find most funny about these anti-vaxxers, organic, vegan gluten-free types is that they often feel the need to brand themselves with tattoos. They go to some storefront and pay thousands to have someone administer ten thousand injections of heavy metals, pigments of unknown types and sources INJECTED into the largest organ of their body. Their skin. Permanently!
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2455550]If someone comes to Pulaskie West Virginia from Chile.... they are doing it doggy style![/QUOTE]I could not stop laughing reading the ending comments even though the subject is not exactly that funny.
I studied Chem and Math during my undergrad years so all your erudite references to Biology went over my head. Having said that, I do have to wonder though. I thought children in the US are supposed to be vaccinated against a boat load of stuff before they are allowed to attend a public (and Private) school. So the posters here, surprised that others have been vaccinated, never went to school? That may explain such questions.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2455591]I could not stop laughing reading the ending comments even though the subject is not exactly that funny.
I studied Chem and Math during my undergrad years so all your erudite references to Biology went over my head. Having said that, I do have to wonder though. I thought children in the US are supposed to be vaccinated against a boat load of stuff before they are allowed to attend a public (and Private) school. So the posters here, surprised that others have been vaccinated, never went to school? That may explain such questions.[/QUOTE]I raised all of my children vaccine free. Not one has come down with anything other than the common cold or flu. And that was very far and few between. I used all available means to avoid giving that poison to my children. All are fine healthy adults. Of course we didn't have the volume of drugs they hit them' with today. Fact is fellows, if you want it, take it, if you don't, don't. Great exchange of information and let's get back to mongering. Oh, as for going to school I commonly used the religious angle to prevent them for obtaining vaccines. Sure they had a couple, like smallpox, tetanus and polio but none of the rest. Those are proven pretty safe in my opinion but none of the rest.
Peace,
A Brazilian friend sent this today. He teaches Physical Sciences, in a college there.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2455662]A Brazilian friend sent this today. He teaches Physical Sciences, in a college there.[/QUOTE]I would suggest you read the Book of Job. .
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455766]I would suggest you read the Book of Job. .
Peace,[/QUOTE]Have done that. Now that is comical.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455640]I raised all of my children vaccine free...Peace.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I understand. Your children are your prerogative. My children did not attend public schools but fortunately I live in MA, where vaccine exemptions are very low even in public schools. My graduate degree does not qualify me to comment on ethical issues of vaccines nor for that matter the biology of it but generally I believe the doctors are sensible, intelligent and rational creatures. I also believe in the empirical veracity of science and I am thankful for the likes of Edward Jenner or Alexander Flemming!
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2455544]Shirley you can't be serious?
Who do you think the "they" are who are having a bit of fun with "social engineering"? The Illuminati, George Soros, Bill Gates? And "they" have organized all this with thousands of Doctors (sworn to secrecy- pinky swear!) in a secret conspiracy to interfere with you?
By your logic, you should only take a vaccine that you developed. [/QUOTE]Exactly. These anti-vaxxers are cretins of highest order.
[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2456803]Exactly. These anti-vaxxers are cretins of highest order.[/QUOTE]I take all my vaccinations but sometimes I am drawn to a point of view more by the vehemence of the people opposed to it than by those proposing.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455640]I raised all of my children vaccine free.[/QUOTE]Your post-facto misguided virtue signalling is duly noted!
But you forgot to mention if they are gluten-free and were not genetically modified.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2455640] Not one has come down with anything other than the common cold or flu. And that was very far and few between. I used all available means to avoid giving that poison to my children. All are fine healthy adults. Of course we didn't have the volume of drugs they hit them' with today. Fact is fellows, if you want it, take it, if you don't, don't. Great exchange of information and let's get back to mongering.
Oh, as for going to school I commonly used the religious angle to prevent them for obtaining vaccines. Sure they had a couple, like smallpox, tetanus and polio but none of the rest. Those are proven pretty safe in my opinion but none of the rest.
Peace,[/QUOTE]But you proudly said you raised your children vaccine free?
But they diid get "Smallpox, tetanus and polio vaccines?
At least you did that right.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2456936]I take all my vaccinations but sometimes I am drawn to a point of view more by the vehemence of the people opposed to it than by those proposing.[/QUOTE]Just because the pack follows the one dog who started howling at the moon doesn't mean we should take their warning that the moon is falling seriously.
Like dogs barking at the moon, the anti-vaxxers are driven by fear of what they don't understand, take comfort in belonging to their pack, and revert to protective emotions rather than rational thought.
You think COVID is an inconvenience, imagine a world with no vaccines. Smallpox, measles, polio and other contagious diseases would decimate us.
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2456946]Just because the pack follows the one dog who started howling at the moon doesn't mean we should take their warning that the moon is falling seriously.
Like dogs barking at the moon, the anti-vaxxers are driven by fear of what they don't understand, take comfort in belonging to their pack, and revert to protective emotions rather than rational thought.
You think COVID is an inconvenience, imagine a world with no vaccines. Smallpox, measles, polio and other contagious diseases would decimate us.[/QUOTE]Looks like I stumbled onto the medical forum, LOL.
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2456946]the anti-vaxxers are driven by fear of what they don't understand, take comfort in belonging to their pack, and revert to protective emotions rather than rational thought.[/QUOTE]Our plantation history, the media and social media, the religions, greed, and the slow demise of Public Education, have all contributed. Amazingly, those that need Government the most, be it for health or unemployment, are the first in line asking to de-fund the Government, because their leaders said so. In most other parts of the world, it is exactly the opposite. It helps to dumb down so people can be lorded over, as in feudal times.
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2456946]Just because the pack follows the one dog who started howling at the moon doesn't mean we should take their warning that the moon is falling seriously.
Like dogs barking at the moon, the anti-vaxxers are driven by fear of what they don't understand, take comfort in belonging to their pack, and revert to protective emotions rather than rational thought.............[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, you have whetted my appetite. Until now I have not concerned myself with persons who are against vaccination, I will now do some research into what they are saying.
The time has been hard on the women I know in the DR. I have tried to do what little I could but there are many and resources are limited. For as long as it has been, the desperation has grown and sometime it has frayed the nerves. As I tried to balance those that do not ask, those that are more demanding, I had to cut the cord with some of them.
The women feel helpless as they ask, unable to reciprocate in kind as the menfolk are far away. Today, one such woman, sent me a video on Whatsapp, unsolicited. It might be an attempt to make sure that the honeypot does not disappear, from my cynical view point but it also dawned on me that she also had a sense of honor, paying back with the only currency she has.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2458053]The time has been hard on the women I know in the DR. I have tried to do what little I could but there are many and resources are limited. For as long as it has been, the desperation has grown and sometime it has frayed the nerves. As I tried to balance those that do not ask, those that are more demanding, I had to cut the cord with some of them.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like you need to do the honorable thing and pull yourself up by the bootstraps so you can do a better job helping these women. It is not right to just abandon them like that. They need you and depend on you. Death before dishonor!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2458111]Sounds like you need to do the honorable thing and pull yourself up by the bootstraps so you can do a better job helping these women. It is not right to just abandon them like that. They need you and depend on you. Death before dishonor![/QUOTE]The women existed before me and will do so after, as the refrain goes, so no one depends on me, Phew! Having said that, the focus of the anecdote was not me but the women and their code of honor.
Fortunately also, I do not have to pull myself up by the bootstraps. And speaking of misery, there, but for the grace of God, go I!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2458245]The women existed before me and will do so after, as the refrain goes, so no one depends on me, Phew! Having said that, the focus of the anecdote was not me but the women and their code of honor.
Fortunately also, I do not have to pull myself up by the bootstraps. And speaking of misery, there, but for the grace of God, go I![/QUOTE]Some of my whatsapp chicas seem to be hurting. But others seem to be maintaining, and even still partying with their friends from what I see online.
I guess some have western union coming in. All interesting. It will be interesting to see how things are when I finally get back. Ill be sticking with my whatsapp crew to avoid drama. I anticipate the begging will be considerably worse. We shall see! Peace.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2458053]The time has been hard on the women I know in the DR. I have tried to do what little I could but there are many and resources are limited. For as long as it has been, the desperation has grown and sometime it has frayed the nerves. As I tried to balance those that do not ask, those that are more demanding, I had to cut the cord with some of them.
The women feel helpless as they ask, unable to reciprocate in kind as the menfolk are far away. Today, one such woman, sent me a video on Whatsapp, unsolicited. It might be an attempt to make sure that the honeypot does not disappear, from my cynical view point but it also dawned on me that she also had a sense of honor, paying back with the only currency she has.[/QUOTE]For an ex pat or regular visitor, it helps to concentrate to your budget among your social circle, and your frequently patronized business. It pays dividends at times like this. What and where you spend can be a life changer for locals. You get no added benefits, and reduced requests for money if you are not spending your money all over the place.
As you said in your other post, it pays to keep them always happy to see you, but not dependent on you!
Sta safe!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2458375]For an ex pat or regular visitor, it helps to concentrate to your budget among your social circle, and your frequently patronized business. It pays dividends at times like this. What and where you spend can be a life changer for locals. You get no added benefits, and reduced requests for money if you are not spending your money all over the place.
As you said in your other post, it pays to keep them always happy to see you, but not dependent on you!
Sta safe![/QUOTE]Thanks Oakie and Tempoecorto.
Funman13.
She can't wait for Classico to open up to get paid.
For all you long time veterans the mayor of Sosua Says Hi.
Is the Metro Bus running from Santo Domingo to Sosua, or is it shut down because of the virus.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;2459580]Is the Metro Bus running from Santo Domingo to Sosua, or is it shut down because of the virus.[/QUOTE]Looks like it's running now, you may want to email them to be sure.
[URL]https://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/[/URL]
A friend of kubbe told me how much he enjoys Sosua and how chilled it is. Says he loves how the girls treat him so good.
I'm thinking of coming in with him in August if things open back up by then.
Just not sure we'll be able to travel together and I may want to stay a bit longer than him. Also he's been there mainly in the past with some more seasoned guys.
So I'm here looking for any tips. From getting to Sousa from STI at night. Also how are they with bringing in food. Most likely will be prepared foods. I have s special diet I'm. On.
Also where to stay. Infinit Blue I looked at, looks nice.
Where are some places to finding good quality chicas for a reasonable prices (read I'm cheap but don't want a SW type). And does not speaking Spanish put me at a major disadvantage?
Sorry for the 20 questions and dint mean to derail the vaccine talks, LOL. Thanks much!
[QUOTE=IndiTherapist;2461224]A friend of kubbe told me how much he enjoys Sosua and how chilled it is. Says he loves how the girls treat him so good.
I'm thinking of coming in with him in August if things open back up by then.
Just not sure we'll be able to travel together and I may want to stay a bit longer than him. Also he's been there mainly in the past with some more seasoned guys.
So I'm here looking for any tips. From getting to Sousa from STI at night. Also how are they with bringing in food. Most likely will be prepared foods. I have s special diet I'm. On.
Also where to stay. Infinit Blue I looked at, looks nice.
Where are some places to finding good quality chicas for a reasonable prices (read I'm cheap but don't want a SW type). And does not speaking Spanish put me at a major disadvantage?
Sorry for the 20 questions and dint mean to derail the vaccine talks, LOL. Thanks much![/QUOTE]A lot of places may or may not be open by August, and I'm sure a lot of the landscape will change. Get a paid subscription to the board and you can discuss things via PM with people who are on the ground there; Also, all the info you are asking for here already here man. A lot of course will be out of date since none of us know yet with this whole Corona thing, but it's your best start. AKA. RTFF.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2461410]A lot of places may or may not be open by August, and I'm sure a lot of the landscape will change. Get a paid subscription to the board and you can discuss things via PM with people who are on the ground there; Also, all the info you are asking for here already here man. A lot of course will be out of date since none of us know yet with this whole Corona thing, but it's your best start. AKA. RTFF.[/QUOTE]Hey,
RTTF thanks much. Yeah I thought about getting a pd membership since PMs are restricted to only them.
Just heard my buddy's friend is going to try for sometime in July to see what's up. Also just noticed the hotel forum, will check that out as well.
Yitz.
[QUOTE=IndiTherapist;2461224]A friend of kubbe told me how much he enjoys Sosua and how chilled it is. Says he loves how the girls treat him so good.
I'm thinking of coming in with him in August if things open back up by then.
Just not sure we'll be able to travel together and I may want to stay a bit longer than him. Also he's been there mainly in the past with some more seasoned guys.
So I'm here looking for any tips. From getting to Sousa from STI at night. Also how are they with bringing in food. Most likely will be prepared foods. I have s special diet I'm. On.
Also where to stay. Infinit Blue I looked at, looks nice.
Where are some places to finding good quality chicas for a reasonable prices (read I'm cheap but don't want a SW type). And does not speaking Spanish put me at a major disadvantage?
Sorry for the 20 questions and dint mean to derail the vaccine talks, LOL. Thanks much![/QUOTE]You are very brave to do an adventure like that, right now the least I think about is taking a plane. Good luck!
[QUOTE=IndiTherapist;2461224]A friend of kubbe told me how much he enjoys Sosua and how chilled it is. Says he loves how the girls treat him so good.
I'm thinking of coming in with him in August if things open back up by then.
Just not sure we'll be able to travel together and I may want to stay a bit longer than him. Also he's been there mainly in the past with some more seasoned guys.
So I'm here looking for any tips. From getting to Sousa from STI at night. Also how are they with bringing in food. Most likely will be prepared foods. I have s special diet I'm. On.
Also where to stay. Infinit Blue I looked at, looks nice.
Where are some places to finding good quality chicas for a reasonable prices (read I'm cheap but don't want a SW type). And does not speaking Spanish put me at a major disadvantage?
Sorry for the 20 questions and dint mean to derail the vaccine talks, LOL. Thanks much![/QUOTE]Let me answer you point by point.
Each individual has different experience. Do not go by what others did.
Things may not get back to normal by August. I would wait at least till November. From STI Santiago airport you have many choices. You can negotiate a taxi fare. Depending on your arrival time you can take the taxi to bus station and catch a bus. Lots of flights lands late at night. At that time it is better to stay one night in Santiago and maybe explore night life there. You may get lucky. And catch bus to Sosua.
There are plenty of options about food. You need not order from the menu. You can ask them to prepare your own food the way you like it.
Stay wise there are plenty of hotels if they are still open after this pandemic. Even if you book online better call and make sure they are open.
As for girls venue to pick up has been changing recently like the wind. Sosua is a small town and once you get there can find out happening places. Price wise strictly on negotiation. Lack of Spanish fluency is not a hindrance. Better to learn some basic Spanish words. In our mongering world lack of local language has never affected us for having a good time anywhere in the world.
Once again subscribe and you can send pm to many friends who regularly post here.
Dominican today had a long article about effoerts to thwart prostitution and restore family atmosphere to Sosua. The efforts are on going.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2461906]Dominican today had a long article about effoerts to thwart prostitution and restore family atmosphere to Sosua. The efforts are on going.[/QUOTE]That has been a focus of the country for a long time. It has changed from the days of the "wild, wild west" to a certain degree. If they put some effort into it they could control it a positive way by registering chicas and providing health and safety measures and keep the adult entainment for later hours. However, the ladies of the Dominican Republic are free spirited and don't take regulations very well. I really don't blame them either. Curfew has ended as of today and most things are open. The beach activities look like they are on track for the 1st of July. I'll be hitting the island on the 9th of July and can't wait to support the local economy as much as I can. So tired of the rhetoric of our home country. At least outside the USA Corruption can be seen for what it is and the people still have some balls left to counter these false man-made situations. Sosua has longevity and I have seen it's resilience over the years and in my opinion it will survive and continue to be what it is and has always been. Maybe on a lower tip, but it will survive. It was a bad move to close Passions and CMP because that was exactly the places that were off of the street, low key, safe and clean for both chica and monger. The plus was there were out of sight of the general public and tourists. Anyway that may be an option in the future if they settle down and make some positive moves for the community and tourists who venture to Sosua for companionship.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2462095]That has been a focus of the country for a long time. It has changed from the days of the "wild, wild west" to a certain degree. If they put some effort into it they could control it a positive way by registering chicas and providing health and safety measures and keep the adult entainment for later hours. However, the ladies of the Dominican Republic are free spirited and don't take regulations very well. I really don't blame them either. Curfew has ended as of today and most things are open. The beach activities look like they are on track for the 1st of July. I'll be hitting the island on the 9th of July and can't wait to support the local economy as much as I can. So tired of the rhetoric of our home country. At least outside the USA Corruption can be seen for what it is and the people still have some balls left to counter these false man-made situations. Sosua has longevity and I have seen it's resilience over the years and in my opinion it will survive and continue to be what it is and has always been. Maybe on a lower tip, but it will survive. It was a bad move to close Passions and CMP because that was exactly the places that were off of the street, low key, safe and clean for both chica and monger. The plus was there were out of sight of the general public and tourists. Anyway that may be an option in the future if they settle down and make some positive moves for the community and tourists who venture to Sosua for companionship.
Peace,[/QUOTE]Amen to that.
Here, the people know that government is inherently corrupt (follow the money), and get on with their lives.
Empty promises from politicians don't mean a thing. If Sosua was the problem they say it is, they could so easily just make prostitution illegal.
But what they actually want to do is to control it and the money it brings.
Think about all the USA Politicians who campaigned against gambling, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, numbers racket (lotto), prostitution, loan sharking, protection racket (insurance enforced at the point of a gun).
The government has taken over it all!
Now a crook like Al Capone, couldn't even make a decent living anymore! LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2462104]Amen to that.
Here, the people know that government is inherently corrupt (follow the money), and get on with their lives.
Empty promises from politicians don't mean a thing. If Sosua was the problem they say it is, they could so easily just make prostitution illegal.
But what they actually want to do is to control it and the money it brings.
Think about all the USA Politicians who campaigned against gambling, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, numbers racket (lotto), prostitution, loan sharking, protection racket (insurance enforced at the point of a gun).
The government has taken over it all!
Now a crook like Al Capone, couldn't even make a decent living anymore! LOL.[/QUOTE]Too funny about Al Capone not being able to make a living! LOL.
I suspected that Willie wouldn't be able to bring back the old days because I speak and read enough Spanish to be able to see that the pressure was coming from Santo Domingo. They don't want to make it legal. They just don't want the attention. They don't want sosua coming up when people Google sex tourism, they don't want all the YouTube videos, etc. I can see the strip being pretty much shut down and all the action being at the casino. Better build that whatsapp team. Peace.
Going to Sano Domingo next month not sure I can rely on action in sosua. I have 5 ladies waiting in SD. Very hard to choose between the ladies but that is always the case in the DR. In truth why non pro babes are in the lead but m semi pro has arranged a 3 some to start my trip with a bang.
Gentleman,
I will be in SD in July but am planning to go Sosua since I have few extra days on this trip, my first time there. Can anyone recommend which hotels / airbnb are closest to the action in Sosua.
And which spots to find the ladies at night time. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Remy316;2462512] Can anyone recommend which hotels / airbnb are closest to the action in Sosua.
And which spots to find the ladies at night time. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You have been to Boca Chica and so you would find Sosua to be a cinch. One short stretch of main street, with restaurants and bars on both sides. This is where the women used to congregate (day and night) but with the discos etc closed, not sure how many would be walking by. The city created a new "red zone" about a 5 minutes scooter ride, where prior to the lock down the action had moved out to.
My personal favorite is a hotel called Casa Valeria, spic and span, run by a Dutch guy, $70 or so, restaurant on site and a stone's throw from the main street.
If catching a bus from SD, try the Metro bus, which will drop you within walking distance from that hotel.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2462969]You have been to Boca Chica and so you would find Sosua to be a cinch. One short stretch of main street, with restaurants and bars on both sides. This is where the women used to congregate (day and night) but with the discos etc closed, not sure how many would be walking by. The city created a new "red zone" about a 5 minutes scooter ride, where prior to the lock down the action had moved out to.
My personal favorite is a hotel called Casa Valeria, spic and span, run by a Dutch guy, $70 or so, restaurant on site and a stone's throw from the main street.
If catching a bus from SD, try the Metro bus, which will drop you within walking distance from that hotel.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for that kind info. Simply getting tired of the sharks in the Capital. The recent cinch seems to have gotten some of the ladies in SD very desperate or agitated lately so was thinking of going to a quiet beach town for some action. Sosua came to mind and I'll be sure to check it out this time and post my feedback on here soon.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2462969]You have been to Boca Chica and so you would find Sosua to be a cinch. One short stretch of main street, with restaurants and bars on both sides. This is where the women used to congregate (day and night) but with the discos etc closed, not sure how many would be walking by. The city created a new "red zone" about a 5 minutes scooter ride, where prior to the lock down the action had moved out to.
My personal favorite is a hotel called Casa Valeria, spic and span, run by a Dutch guy, $70 or so, restaurant on site and a stone's throw from the main street.
If catching a bus from SD, try the Metro bus, which will drop you within walking distance from that hotel.[/QUOTE]Good info TempoeCorto.
I would add Europa to the hotel list. Seems to be the area where smaller bars are opening up and expanding, between the downtown strip and the new Ahnvee "red zone", which is still pretty quiet. SW's on the prowl on the street and in the little bars.
As of now Sosua is dead. When the girls come back is up in the air. What makes the place work is girls coming fro all over the island. The local are very hardcore and mostly wore out. If you are desperate they may work. Guys who have a whatapp lineup all is good. My non pro girls are wilder then my semipros and pros. My non pro ask me to bring toys and give better head. Go figure I have a friend going to the SU this weekend. I will get a headsup on the place.
[QUOTE=Remy316;2463077]Thank you so much for that kind info. Simply getting tired of the sharks in the Capital. The recent cinch seems to have gotten some of the ladies in SD very desperate or agitated lately so was thinking of going to a quiet beach town for some action. Sosua came to mind and I'll be sure to check it out this time and post my feedback on here soon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2463124]Good info TempoeCorto.
I would add Europa to the hotel list. Seems to be the area where smaller bars are opening up and expanding, between the downtown strip and the new Ahnvee "red zone", which is still pretty quiet. SW's on the prowl on the street and in the little bars.[/QUOTE]What about Hotel Las Palmeras [URL]http://www.hotel-las-palmeras.com/en/[/URL]? Years ago I stayed there a couple of times; it was basic but acceptable, and Obie was a good guy (I wonder if he's still working there).
[QUOTE=Remy316;2462512]Gentleman,
I will be in SD in July but am planning to go Sosua since I have few extra days on this trip, my first time there. Can anyone recommend which hotels / airbnb are closest to the action in Sosua.
And which spots to find the ladies at night time. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Please take a look at the thread 'Sosua Hotels'.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2463124]I would add Europa to the hotel list. Seems to be the area where smaller bars are opening up and expanding, between the downtown strip and the new Ahnvee "red zone", which is still pretty quiet. SW's on the prowl on the street and in the little bars.[/QUOTE]The reason I did not add Europa, even though it is closer to the Ahnvee place, is that, to me, the building from outside, always appeared a little "unclean" as against the recently renovated Casa Valeria, (which also is really close to the beach, walking distance indeed) especially these day of "mandatory cleanliness". I also thought that at night, The Euopa side of the town might appear a little sketchy, for an new person in town as the streets are not very well illuminated, compared to the main drag. For you and I, who know the area, it of course does not mean anything, I actually go around walking there.
Of course, I have no clue about availability of women these days, in Sosua, even on the main street, daytime or night, at this early post lock down phase. You can enlighten us all.
[QUOTE=Remy316;2463077]Thank you so much for that kind info. Simply getting tired of the sharks in the Capital.[/QUOTE]Are you in SD right now?
I never cared for the South of the island, with an overcrowded Capital, after having been there 6/7 times, including Boca Chica. I find Sosua a pleasant small beach town, excellent world cuisine with a lot of Europeans living there and a more relaxed pace befitting a Caribbean vacation location, with soothing Bachata music coming out of stores some years earlier, now more and more replaced with American noise, I. E. , "what passes for" music. There are other perhaps even more less populated locations but I think, we all also like a bit of civilization and internet access these days, rather than the "far from the madding crowd".
I am sure you could write to "Oakie" here, who too is one of the Expats and a resident in town, to seek his advice if you wish to get there soon.
It was open the day before yesterday, but I didn't actually go. I looked from the parking lot, and could see people in the water. Lounge chairs and tables out there, and the local guys tending to their customers. Yesterday, I actually went to the beach for lunch. Aris restaurant#67. Dined alone. Had the Red Snapper w / yellow rice, steamed veggies, and garlic sauce. No drink. Price 770RD. 10% service charge added to the bill. I always offer extra propina. Couldn't eat it all, had to take the rest home for dinner.
Sitting there, you will see a cluster of other restaurants open. Mofongo King, Joselito's, Jorge Mayra, small bars, gift shops etc. These werent the only ones open on the beach. There are others, but you would have to take a walk to see who is open. Big DEE, and the TreeHouse are not open yet. I know Fast Freddie way down the other end is open. Good food. I recommend him. There is also a restaurant at #159 next door to Big Mama's. He is open. Has fish entres and other stuff. Every restaurant had at least one guest, some a few. Things are slow right now. It's going to take a few days / weeks before these restaurants / venues start making any real money. Girls? I recall seeing two nice looking chicas but they were with their guys out on the beach near the water. Not sure if the guys were foreigners or locals.
The beach has always been a thoroughfare / passageway for people going to and from Charamicos to Sosua. Thats another way to spot some chicas. Maybe hit them up.
Still no clubs / disco or casino open yet. With these venues closed chicas are less inclined to post up on PC area. By the time they start coming back, to stay in the rooming houses, some will probably be hanging outside the hotels like NG, Terra Linda, Alicia Beach. Sosua Inn etc looking for clients. As of now, chicas that stay nearby may be seen out and about, but there is no abundance of talent yet. At least not until guys start filling up these hotels. Which will be in the next few days / weeks.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2463426] As of now, chicas that stay nearby may be seen out and about, but there is no abundance of talent yet. At least not until guys start filling up these hotels. Which will be in the next few days / weeks.[/QUOTE]Excellent update. Thank you Wrx2005!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2463419]The reason I did not add Europa, even though it is closer to the Ahnvee place, is that, to me, the building from outside, always appeared a little "unclean" as against the recently renovated Casa Valeria, (which also is really close to the beach, walking distance indeed) especially these day of "mandatory cleanliness". I also thought that at night, The Euopa side of the town might appear a little sketchy, for an new person in town as the streets are not very well illuminated, compared to the main drag. For you and I, who know the area, it of course does not mean anything, I actually go around walking there.
Of course, I have no clue about availability of women these days, in Sosua, even on the main street, daytime or night, at this early post lock down phase. You can enlighten us all.[/QUOTE]Wrexxys post pretty much sums up the present state of the downtown and beach area.
But for what I call the "Europa Zone", it has been cleaned up considerably since the COVID business started.
Repaired sidewalks, empty lots cleared of garbage, old buildings razed and being razed, and many of the street bars have renovated, anticipating more business. Europa has itself opened a second bar area directly overlooking the street. As of now there is actually more pedestrian traffic and tourists, than either the Ahnvee area or the downtown strip.
It is not the Grand Parade with hotels and night clubs, but with it's little colmados, local street food barbecue sellers and bars, it retains a little of the old Sosua local feel. And yes you can hear batchata music coming out of there. LOL. Still a little seedy, but completely safe! And that of course attracts chicas.
If that doesn't appeal, I'd advise folks to stay on the tourist trail. Beach, Ahnvee and Downtown.
(I happen to live around there and hope the monger crowd stays away, before this little area too is New Yorkified.).
Sunday is National Election day here, with no alcohol (LOL), and everybody is anticipating a party and a re-opening around here on Monday. I'll be there!
We'll see how it goes.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2463497]Excellent update. Thank you Wrx2005![/QUOTE]Yes very informative thank you Sir Wrs2005!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2463419]The reason I did not add Europa, even though it is closer to the Ahnvee place, is that, to me, the building from outside, always appeared a little "unclean" as against the recently renovated Casa Valeria, (which also is really close to the beach, walking distance indeed) especially these day of "mandatory cleanliness". I also thought that at night, The Euopa side of the town might appear a little sketchy, for an new person in town as the streets are not very well illuminated, compared to the main drag. For you and I, who know the area, it of course does not mean anything, I actually go around walking there.
Of course, I have no clue about availability of women these days, in Sosua, even on the main street, daytime or night, at this early post lock down phase. You can enlighten us all.[/QUOTE]Very good feedback!
I'll be going there in 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2463532]But for what I call the "Europa Zone", it has been cleaned up considerably since the COVID business started.[/QUOTE]That is nice to know. I have been away for four months and was not aware of all that. You are right, it is somewhat seedier (especially with open drains and not too well lit street) even though completely safe and is somewhat tucked away, with couple of typical local eats. I know one expat who lives in a very clean looking condo there that has other European residents, which also has a restaurant, almost next to Europa, going towards Ahnvee, on the same side of the street.
Thanks for keeping the forum alive!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2463772] I know one expat who lives in a very clean looking condo there that has other European residents, which also has a restaurant, almost next to Europa, going towards Ahnvee, on the same side of the street.[/QUOTE]That would be Club Residential Condo apartments.
As we speak, they too are in the process of renovating and upgrading their street facing restaurant. Optimism is in the air!
The poolside part of their bar and restaurant never closed thru the whole quarantine and curfew, and was a little oasis of normality for us locals, in an otherwise dead town.
How crazy / stupid would it be to visit the Sosua / Santiago area in late July? Just returned from a Cancun trip for a few days and found action with the girls, but not much else. Bars and nightlife were dead. I am a big fan of the chase and the hunt. Any experienced mongers out there have an opinion on this? Would a late July trip be a waste of time and money or do you think the Island is ready to get back to life and start the party? I have read that Bars and clubs will be closed till late August, is this true, or have bars and small clubs been open late on the DL?
Any opinions or responses is greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2463778]That would be Club Residential Condo apartments.[/QUOTE]That's it!
On another note, how is the public conveyance working? Carritos were Driver+2+4 configuration, and now? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2463815]How crazy / stupid would it be to visit the Sosua / Santiago area in late July? Just returned from a Cancun trip for a few days and found action with the girls, but not much else. Bars and nightlife were dead. I am a big fan of the chase and the hunt. Any experienced mongers out there have an opinion on this? Would a late July trip be a waste of time and money or do you think the Island is ready to get back to life and start the party? I have read that Bars and clubs will be closed till late August, is this true, or have bars and small clubs been open late on the DL?
Any opinions or responses is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Not sure about late July as it might be too soon to tell. I've heard some guys already touched down in Sosua and they say the bars and beaches are open but not any clubs. One guy sent me a text saying the beaches are alright but no clubs. I've heard the restaurants have to close early but things change on a daily basis. I am trying to book for Sosua for August but I want to get more intel before booking my flight. I have also heard the villas like Residencial Hispaniola will not allow "guest" while the corna is still going on. So be sure to contact the hotel to be sure the allow "guest" to come back to your room. I hear Sosua Inn and Anhvee and a few other hotels allow guest now but I like the large villa experience so if you are like me then Air be& be may be the way to go. What ever you hear now I am sure it will change many times before the end of July.
[QUOTE=HiThere;2463869]Not sure about late July as it might be too soon to tell. I've heard some guys already touched down in Sosua and they say the bars and beaches are open but not any clubs. One guy sent me a text saying the beaches are alright but no clubs. I've heard the restaurants have to close early but things change on a daily basis. I am trying to book for Sosua for August but I want to get more intel before booking my flight. I have also heard the villas like Residencial Hispaniola will not allow "guest" while the corna is still going on. So be sure to contact the hotel to be sure the allow "guest" to come back to your room. I hear Sosua Inn and Anhvee and a few other hotels allow guest now but I like the large villa experience so if you are like me then Air be& be may be the way to go. What ever you hear now I am sure it will change many times before the end of July.[/QUOTE]All businesses in Sosua depend on tourists, specifically sex tourists not counting guests at AI resorts. Hotels will not survive if they do not allow guests. For safety sake I always believe in staying at hotels to avoid problems with girls. Hotels would like to protect the guests.
On the other hand air be&be and apartment rentals has no protection.
Even when Sosua fully re opens there will be strict guidelines issued by the government. Flout the rules at your own peril. It is better to wait to make plans to go however blue your balls are. There are forum members who live there and will give on the ground reports. Accordingly you make plans.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2463952]All businesses in Sosua depend on tourists, specifically sex tourists not counting guests at AI resorts. Hotels will not survive if they do not allow guests. For safety sake I always believe in staying at hotels to avoid problems with girls. Hotels would like to protect the guests.
On the other hand air be&be and apartment rentals has no protection.
Even when Sosua fully re opens there will be strict guidelines issued by the government. Flout the rules at your own peril. It is better to wait to make plans to go however blue your balls are. There are forum members who live there and will give on the ground reports. Accordingly you make plans.[/QUOTE]That is true as safety is a concern. But there are some villas and hotels and resorts that are not allowing any chicas while corna is going on. Not even the pay the extra fee situation per girl. For myself I don't like the one and two star hotels, that have no restrictions on chicas during the corna, but enjoy the larger villas. No doubt being safe is a concern as I may just wait this situation out when better information and availability is forthcoming. As I've seen in the past few months whatever the government says on one day will change 10 times before the next week.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2463815]How crazy / stupid would it be to visit the Sosua / Santiago area in late July? Just returned from a Cancun trip for a few days and found action with the girls, but not much else. Bars and nightlife were dead. I am a big fan of the chase and the hunt. Any experienced mongers out there have an opinion on this? Would a late July trip be a waste of time and money or do you think the Island is ready to get back to life and start the party? I have read that Bars and clubs will be closed till late August, is this true, or have bars and small clubs been open late on the DL?
Any opinions or responses is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]All clubs are closed. The only bars that are open are ones that serve food as they can be considered restaurants and restaurants can be open. Bars in hotels are allowed to be open. No problem getting a beer on the beach. Everything has to close at 10 pm. Nobody knows when things will open any further than this, if they tell you that they know when they are lying plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2463847]That's it!
On another note, how is the public conveyance working? Carritos were Driver+2+4 configuration, and now? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Temporarily half of the previous load and double the price, I recall 80 pesos to Pto Pta but 100 pesos price was also posted.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2464024]All clubs are closed. The only bars that are open are ones that serve food as they can be considered restaurants and restaurants can be open. Bars in hotels are allowed to be open. No problem getting a beer on the beach. Everything has to close at 10 pm. Nobody knows when things will open any further than this, if they tell you that they know when they are lying plain and simple.[/QUOTE]According to the plan laid out previously and according to '"The Dominican Daily" all "entertainment" is scheduled to open then. That's discos and such.
Peace,
[QUOTE=Questner;2464062]Temporarily half of the previous load and double the price, I recall 80 pesos to Pto Pta but 100 pesos price was also posted.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the information.
So in addition to the driver, there are 3 more people. The rate of course reflects that but many may have trouble with the hiked up rates too. Having said that, without this, that extremely close proximity of 7 sardines, that place, now that everything is open, would be soon like FL / TX.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2464110]According to the plan laid out previously and according to '"The Dominican Daily" all "entertainment" is scheduled to open then. That's discos and such.
Peace,[/QUOTE]A lot of the restaurants, and bars that also sell food have re-opened. Old Rumba, Jolly Roger, Mateos, etc. Nobody is wearing a mask on premises.
The other bars and restaurants that survived the shut down are getting ready to re-open, but right now there are no tourists, so they are waiting for them to show up, before they open up and hire staff just to sit around and wait.
Same on the beach.
When the tourists come, the chicas will follow!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2464299]A lot of the restaurants, and bars that also sell food have re-opened. Old Rumba, Jolly Roger, Mateos, etc. Nobody is wearing a mask on premises.
The other bars and restaurants that survived the shut down are getting ready to re-open, but right now there are no tourists, so they are waiting for them to show up, before they open up and hire staff just to sit around and wait.
Same on the beach.
When the tourists come, the chicas will follow![/QUOTE]That local newspaper for information is "Dominican Today" website. I quoted it wrong. They had posted up the outline of their reopening with the posted dates of activities and when they would open. I'll be on the ground this Thursday and will help the local economy move forward. All one needs is the phone and contact numbers. Unless of course it's your first rodeo.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2464412]That local newspaper for information is "Dominican Today" website. I quoted it wrong. They had posted up the outline of their reopening with the posted dates of activities and when they would open. I'll be on the ground this Thursday and will help the local economy move forward. All one needs is the phone and contact numbers. Unless of course it's your first rodeo.
Peace,[/QUOTE]For Reference.
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://sosuaone.com/[/URL]
If you are an expat here, yes. If you are a laid back tourist who doesn't require much excitement or entertainment, yes. If you have regulars already and they are available, Yes. If you are good with using social media or venturing out, and don't mind pursuing chicas that route, and have a way to get to them or them getting to you, YES a trip is worth it. If you just like being here in Sosua, Yes it's worth it. If you scuba dive or fish, then yes. If you feel comfortable meeting new people, and arent lost because your boys couldn't make it there too, then Yes.
If you are a tourist looking for consistent 7 - 10's available to you, forget it. If you require club or casino action, a fair choice of bars to go to, and also hoping to run into a bunch of 7- 10's, forget it. If the beach is corny and boring to you, forget it. If not being able to smash a variety of chicas 1 to 3 times a day every day is a problem, then forget it. If you are bored out of your skull because Sosua is operating like a normal small town for it's residents, forget it. If you can't stand Sosua for more than 3-5 days normally when there was no pandemic, then definitely do yourself a favor and forget Sosua. Find somewhere else to go.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2464620]If you are an expat here, yes. If you are a laid back tourist who doesn't require much excitement or entertainment, yes. If you have regulars already and they are available, Yes. If you are good with using social media or venturing out, and don't mind pursuing chicas that route, and have a way to get to them or them getting to you, YES a trip is worth it. If you just like being here in Sosua, Yes it's worth it. If you scuba dive or fish, then yes. If you feel comfortable meeting new people, and arent lost because your boys couldn't make it there too, then Yes.
If you are a tourist looking for consistent 7 - 10's available to you, forget it. If you require club or casino action, a fair choice of bars to go to, and also hoping to run into a bunch of 7- 10's, forget it. If the beach is corny and boring to you, forget it. If not being able to smash a variety of chicas 1 to 3 times a day every day is a problem, then forget it. If you are bored out of your skull because Sosua is operating like a normal small town for it's residents, forget it. If you can't stand Sosua for more than 3-5 days normally when there was no pandemic, then definitely do yourself a favor and forget Sosua. Find somewhere else to go.[/QUOTE]Awesome post. Read my mind exactly. For a guy like me, unfortunately it seems like the DR may not be an option this summer. Sucks cause Sosua is a hell of a trip when things are full go. I know a million people have been saying it for months, but travel ain't going to be the same for some time.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2464620] Find somewhere else to go.[/QUOTE]Both humorous and true. Hopefully, this reading will insure that the place remains free of clutter, and will keep the contagion at bay.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2464620]
If you are a tourist looking for consistent 7 - 10's available to you, forget it. If you require club or casino action, a fair choice of bars to go to, and also hoping to run into a bunch of 7- 10's, forget it. If the beach is corny and boring to you, forget it. If not being able to smash a variety of chicas 1 to 3 times a day every day is a problem, then forget it. If you are bored out of your skull because Sosua is operating like a normal small town for it's residents, forget it. If you can't stand Sosua for more than 3-5 days normally when there was no pandemic, then definitely do yourself a favor and forget Sosua. Find somewhere else to go.[/QUOTE]I had to share this information with all my friends. They have been in hibernation so long they're ready to make a move. Quite frankly so am I. I had to tell them if we go to the Sue, don't expect nothing to be open like it normally is on a weekend. You have to rely on your contacts. We can also feed off each other contacts.
I had one friend for the no and one friend for the go. I was the deciding factor. I'm still weighing my options. I can do the Sue and knock off some of my favorites. And since I've been told to not expect nothing I can prepare for it and make it something. I know my other friend who wants to go is thinking the same thing.
The biggest problem is the one who wants to stay on the south Coast. He cannot operate without the club and beach 7-10 chicas scenery. He would have a hard time. When I said we were possibly going up north. The first thing he said was let's pay for VIP in Classico.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2464653]Awesome post. Read my mind exactly. For a guy like me, unfortunately it seems like the DR may not be an option this summer. Sucks cause Sosua is a hell of a trip when things are full go. I know a million people have been saying it for months, but travel ain't going to be the same for some time.[/QUOTE]You never know. DR needs tourists money whether AI resort type or mongers. Everybody contribute to the economy. Sosua always had its up and downs recently from a mayor who killed main street to chicas who outpriced themselves. Normal girls used to come to make quick money and will stay with you for a few days. This way they need not rent a room or stay with a friend paying money.
With the new mayor and threat of COVID gone who knows.
Charm of Sosua is quick weekend hop. It all depends on your luck if you meet right girls or not.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2464703]With the new mayor and threat of COVID gone who knows.
[/QUOTE]And when did the threat of the virus go away?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2464700]I had to share this information with all my friends. They have been in hibernation so long they're ready to make a move. Quite frankly so am I. I had to tell them if we go to the Sue, don't expect nothing to be open like it normally is on a weekend. You have to rely on your contacts. We can also feed off each other contacts.
I had one friend for the no and one friend for the go. I was the deciding factor. I'm still weighing my options. I can do the Sue and knock off some of my favorites. And since I've been told to not expect nothing I can prepare for it and make it something. I know my other friend who wants to go is thinking the same thing.
The biggest problem is the one who wants to stay on the south Coast. He cannot operate without the club and beach 7-10 chicas scenery. He would have a hard time. When I said we were possibly going up north. The first thing he said was let's pay for VIP in Classico.[/QUOTE]I'm glad that you were able to intervene on their behalf. IMO, the south coast and Santiago is probably a better option RIGHT NOW. And maybe for the next few weeks. Think about it. Many of the chicks that looked like something, usually came to Sosua from these places. So if guys fly into SDQ or STI, chances are, guys can make hookups with those same chicks from those areas. Through social media, or Whats app contacts. You can bet, many dudes that met decent talent in Sosua kept in touch with these girls. Mi amor, beso beso, me extrano blah blah blah.
Probably sent them WU payments during the pandemic too. (but that's another story). What this means is, these guys can fly into SDQ or STI, closer to where these chicks live, and then the chick can come see them. Like a pretend girl friend / relationship. You know how guys be thinking they got a cool chica? That I believe is the plan a lot of guys will be making once they get back. The guys that never make contacts, never kept numbers, they will be the ones having to be more creative during their vacation.
It makes more sense for the chicas to stay in the south coast and Santiago and let their clients comes to see them, instead of going to Sosua where there are not enough clients yet to provide services for. Plus the cost of the chicas lodging in or near Sosua. A chica from SD or Santiago can go bang a dude in his hotel, and get back home to the husband and boyfriend before grandma finishes cooking dinner or before grandpa wakes up from his nap after playing dominos all day.
When the hotels in Sosua fill, so will the chicas from all over return.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2464896]A chica from SD or Santiago can go bang a dude in his hotel, and get back home to the husband and boyfriend before grandma finishes cooking dinner or before grandpa wakes up from his nap after playing dominos all day.[/QUOTE]Or this!:
[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhDDX1rdCnu6krwJ9n[/URL]
See now I understand perfectly when chicks have said I could not come over to their house because he is footing the bill. Big misconception is that Dominican guys do not take care of their kids, when in fact they are paying for whole houses for their kids to stay in along with the kids' mothers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2464952]Big misconception is that Dominican guys do not take care of their kids, when in fact they are paying for whole houses for their kids to stay in along with the kids' mothers.[/QUOTE]I am glad you finally understood the class difference, which is as true in the DR (or Thailand or Brasil) as where you grew up. We on this forum interact with the plebs that live from day to day, perhaps even hour to hour. The women that drive the SUVs in Santiago, would not give you (or me) time.
Was hanging with a buddy on Thursday, that got in on Wednesday (American Airlines). Took him to Playero to get provisions. Took him to exchange money. Now normally the best exchange rate is the guy in the rear of the plaza on Alejo Martinez (where Orange / Altice used to be). His rate was 58.10 at 3 ish in the afternoon. I thought he would be higher. Maybe because it was late in the afternoon? My alternative is Caribe Express. We actually went there 1st. They were offering 58.10. About a week or two ago, it was 58.40 at Caribe Express. So I don't know what happened? It's almost like the arrival of tourists caused a drop in the exchange rate. And why not? They know a bunch of tourists are going to be exchanging money as soon as they get to Sosua.
Here's the irony. We stopped by Flip Flop Thursday afternoon, and I see Mapello coming through. He is the mobile exchange guy. Always walking all over the place doing money exchange. His number is 809 491 3024. You can call or text him to come where you are. No Whatsapp. I know crazy right? Everybody uses Whats app. So if you are on the beach and need money exchanged, you can call or text him, and he will come. Just make sure you can identify the spot where you are posted up at. Of course if you are exchanging a lot, even a thousand USD, he will make it his business to get to you.
Anyway, his rate was 58.30 as long as you were exchanging 200 USD or more. So here you got the mobile exchange guy with a better rate than the dude in the plaza or Caribe Express. Wish we caught up with Mapello earlier. BTW that's pronounced "MA PAY YO".
Bumped into Bourbon Street / Ahnvee owner. He said BS is open for dining. No clubbing just yet. Been seeing girls slowly appearing in Sosua. Not sure if they came from afar, or just from Puerto Plata? Plenty of guys have arrived on several flights this week. So Sosua is slowly filling up. It's still going to take some time before a lot of guys are able or willing to come. For enough guys back in the states, it may not be practical to travel if their finances took a major hit during the lock down period. Flip Flop had a small crowd of guys dining and drinking. Chicks here and there walking around. Doable and quite fuckable types.
But you could tell they were hood type chicas. I'm not going to call them street rats. Because that would be too extreme. Lets just say you wouldn't be taking them to Cabarete for a day of fun and eats. And if you did mess with what I saw, you would definitely be locking your stuff down, and not taking your eye off of them. Not for one minute. For the guys that are importing chicas (past hookups or from social media) they can be creative and still get their needs met. Just a reinforcement reminder. Don't allow yourself to be bamboozled by chicas making you feel that their circumstances are so dire, so grim that they need you to pay them above what the job is worth, or them trying to make a dude feel he has to keep hiring them because they are soooo poor.
That way they keep a dude from pursuing variety, or maybe he is taking a break from chicks altogether. It's not our responsibility to make up for their lack of income. Or because they made too many babies. That also goes for local dudes too. Local guys are going to try to play the poor me role on unsuspecting dudes. Try to convince you that they don't know where their next meal is coming from. Meanwhile none of them stepped foot in Sosua the whole time there were no tourists, and we had a curfew.
Now all of a sudden they appear in Sosua and now need your exclusive help? Please don't fall for any of their sob strories and sad faces. It's all manipulation done to perfection. The pandemic made the locals smarter and more creative in how they go about extracting tourists ( or anybody ) from their money/resources. Dont assume the pandemic here is reason for you to part with money given to those who did not earn it. Giving to those that earned is the best policy.
A balanced perspective. Remember many people do not appreciate what is given, especially gifts and benefits which was not earned.
Met a dude earlier this week at a restaurant on PC. Told me he had been talking to a Haitian chica online. Met up with her in PP. Not sure how this got arranged, but the girls mother and brother accompanied the chica to the meet. It was conveyed by the guy to them, that it was only for them to have drinks. The guy agreed to this meet and the chicas family coming because she was young. And he thought it would make her feel more comfortable. He was not doing it because he was trying to start a relationship. But he did think she was a cool chica. So it appeared from his online contact.
To make a long story short. When the waiter came to take orders, a drink date turned into all of them ordering food. See fellas? This is why you have to watch what's going on when you set yourself up like this. More importantly, there is no need to even agree to a date like this involving bringing a mother and a brother. Because you already know that they will bring their appetites and thirsts with them when they come. And they expect you to pay for everything. Not some, everything. And they know that a foreigner is usually not going to say shit when they start taking advantage in front of the chica he is trying to hook up with.
The chica aint going to speak up for him. She isn't going to say to her family. Oh no, we are here just for drinks. The guy is not going to say anything either. Because he doesn't want to look like a jerk. So here's what happens next. Dude realizes the predicament he is in. He decides he's done with the date. Plus the police came by because they saw him dining out in the open. So he decided to take the food to go. The waiter proceeds to prepare the food to go.
The owner tries to get the guy to move to the back of the restaurant to continue dining. But the dude says he is leaving. The owner misinterpreted the guys reason for leaving. So the owner told him nastily to leave, he doesn't need his business. Said he had a bad attitude. The waiter had to explain to the owner that the food was being prepared for take out, he was leaving anyway. But when the owner basically got mad and kicked him out, the guy basically left the food behind. Additionally drinks were drunk, but he ended up not paying for anything.
And guess what? The chica, the mother and the brother lost out on their meal. Worse, is that one of them had ordered a meal to go even before this fiasco. Now that's some balls. Kudos to the dude for getting out of paying for them barracuda advantage takers. However he should have never put him self in that predicament in the 1st place. Having a meeting with the chica and two family members, is a no go. His story is reinforcement for any of us who may let our little heads arrange a fucked up date like that.
I passed by just a few minutes ago. 1845 hrs Friday night July 10. Saw some nice looking chicas up in there. Some tables were chicas sitting by themselves. The chicas got the memo, some decent looking chicas have arrived. Unfortunately, the Politur Police are back in chase mode. At least from the chicas on the street reaction. Chicas running when they saw the pick up truck coming through Pedro Clisante. The chicas sitting up in Kings looked quite relaxed. I'm convinced, chicas here in the DR really value the tourist dollar. I took a couple of photos of Kings from the Dr Rosen street side, but for some reason could not get them to upload here. Oh well.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465562]I passed by just a few minutes ago. 1845 hrs Friday night July 10. Saw some nice looking chicas up in there. Some tables were chicas sitting by themselves. The chicas got the memo, some decent looking chicas have arrived. Unfortunately, the Politur Police are back in chase mode. At least from the chicas on the street reaction. Chicas running when they saw the pick up truck coming through Pedro Clisante. The chicas sitting up in Kings looked quite relaxed. I'm convinced, chicas here in the DR really value the tourist dollar. I took a couple of photos of Kings from the Dr Rosen street side, but for some reason could not get them to upload here. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the continuous updates here WRX. Looking forward to a trip sometime soon in Aug. Hoping Blackbeard's opens back up as well so I can hit them both while I'm there.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465562]I passed by just a few minutes ago. 1845 hrs Friday night July 10. Saw some nice looking chicas up in there. Some tables were chicas sitting by themselves. The chicas got the memo, some decent looking chicas have arrived. Unfortunately, the Politur Police are back in chase mode. At least from the chicas on the street reaction. Chicas running when they saw the pick up truck coming through Pedro Clisante. The chicas sitting up in Kings looked quite relaxed. I'm convinced, chicas here in the DR really value the tourist dollar. I took a couple of photos of Kings from the Dr Rosen street side, but for some reason could not get them to upload here. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Is Classicos and most other bars open until 10 pm? I saw Platinum Gym is back open. Booze, Gym, and Chicas is all a man really needs in life. Based on your report I am very close to booking for early August. I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2465564]Is Classicos and most other bars open until 10 pm? I saw Platinum Gym is back open. Booze, Gym, and Chicas is all a man really needs in life. Based on your report I am very close to booking for early August. I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.[/QUOTE]No clubs in Sosua are open, YET. So forget about Clasico. Merengue is a bar, but it is not open either. Monger spots like Kings, Flip Flip and Tree House 2 (by Las Palmeras hotel) is open. Small bars like Plan be and Cheers is open. Bourbon Street in Ahnvee is open. Some restaurants on PC are open. Like Jolly Roger, Elfante Rojo, Matteos Sea Side. The restaurant across from Merengue is open. Margot restaurant is open. El Conde restaurant is open. I think the Germany restaurant on the highway is open. These are the main ones that tourists may visit. Aside from the bunch of spots open on the beach.
In case I am not clear. There is no night life as far as the club scene being open in Sosua, YET. Consider any bar that is open the closest you are going to get as far as anything resembling a club atmosphere. Casinos CLOSED. If businesses are supposed to close by 10, what does that represent to you? A good thing, or a bad thing? It's up to the individual.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465475]Try to convince you that they don't know where their next meal is coming from. Meanwhile none of them stepped foot in Sosua the whole time there were no tourists, and we had a curfew.
Now all of a sudden they appear in Sosua and now need your exclusive help? Please don't fall for any of their sob strories and sad faces.[/QUOTE]Dude guys were already convinced that people were starving and about to be living on the street before there was any pandemic. I can only assume that they convinced themselves of this since no chick has ever tried to pull that on me. As I said before, until I see skeletons in the gutters I will not believe folks are going around starving in DR. Hell, after this pandemic the chicks may come back bigger than before since they did not have their exercise of walking around the streets of Sosua. I got plenty of messages from chicks in DR during the pandemic, and not one was about them starving or needing money from me.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2465564]I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.[/QUOTE]How do we know the "numbers" are rising? You mean the information we are fed on a daily basis? Here and the rest of the world? We have become trained to assume what is put out there for us to read is facts. Requires no verification. It's in writing therefore it's true. I go to a web page and read that a certain amount of cases suddenly got recorded, and were supposed to believe it actually happened.
Hundreds and thousands of people just suddenly got sick, walked into a hospital, so they could be added to the stats. And then those numbers show up on a website or news program. It's read or heard and taken as verified facts. Hey ya'll the numbers are rising. Yeah, how did you find that out? I read it online, or saw it on CNN. Oh shit, then it must be true then. Thanks for telling me man. Now I'm getting scared. It's not safe. It's getting worse out here.
I feel the same way about the media as I did with dudes on their computers back in the states reporting to who ever would listen, how bad the DR is, and how much danger expats and stuck tourists are in because Dominicans are going to be robbing and killing tourists left and right just to survive. Just because it's said, reported or assumed doesn't make it true. Just because it comes from an authoritative like source doesn't make it fact either. Is it easy to manipulate people, when you can control what they believe? If cases are on the rise, are recoveries on the rise also? How come you don't hear much about that? Most people survive Covid 19. So much emphasis on cases supposedly rising. One thing just might over ride the other to a certain extent. Rant finished.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465493]However he should have never put him self in that predicament in the 1st place. Having a meeting with the chica and two family members, is a no go. His story is reinforcement for any of us who may let our little heads arrange a fucked up date like that.[/QUOTE]In the Philippines it is common for dudes to fall for that scam because they are afraid to miss out on the pussy. But chicks will usually bring along more than a mother and brother. We are talking 8-10 people they will bring along and expect the foreigner to pay.
Something like that happened to me at the beginning of the year in Brazil. There was a hairdresser chick that I had been talking to over a year, but whenever I was there our schedules never matched up. So this time she is down at one of the beach kiosks with a friend and wanted me to come meet up. They were already drinking when I got there. I did not want anything. They finished the drinks and paid and we left.
We were walking down the beach and they said how hungry they were. I told them if they went a couple streets away from the beach, food is much cheaper. They insisted on going to another kiosk and ordering a bunch of food and drinks. I ordered water. When the food came they kept trying to get me to eat with them. No that is okay. I am not hungry. When the bill came I paid for my water and the hairdresser chick tried to pay for the other stuff but her card was declined. So the friend (who was actually living in Italy and also a hairdresser) ended up paying with her card.
During the outing, I hit it off with the friend more than the hairdresser, so we had exchanged numbers and decided to hook up. The next day when I hit her up she told me that I was too cheap because I didn't pay for their stuff. Bih didn't nobody tell y'all to go to that expensive ass place and order all that shit you could not afford. I'm the one that tried to tell you to go to a cheap place remember. But it appears they will go anywhere and bring anybody if they think someone else is footing the bill. I can just imagine how many mfs they have pulled that one on. Them hoes had the wrong one that day!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2465584]Dude guys were already convinced that people were starving and about to be living on the street before there was any pandemic. I can only assume that they convinced themselves of this since no chick has ever tried to pull that on me. As I said before, until I see skeletons in the gutters I will not believe folks are going around starving in DR. Hell, after this pandemic the chicks may come back bigger than before since they did not have their exercise of walking around the streets of Sosua. I got plenty of messages from chicks in DR during the pandemic, and not one was about them starving or needing money from me.[/QUOTE]What I witnessed for the last 3 to 4 months was Dominicans / Haitians adjusting / surviving. And like you, have not seen or heard of any dead skeleton remains laying around due to starvation. Crime of course didn't go on vacation during the pandemic, but things for the most part was under control.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465589]How do we know the "numbers" are rising? You mean the information we are fed on a daily basis? Here and the rest of the world? We have become trained to assume what is put out there for us to read is facts. Requires no verification. It's in writing therefore it's true. I go to a web page and read that a certain amount of cases suddenly got recorded, and were supposed to believe it actually happened.
Hundreds and thousands of people just suddenly got sick, walked into a hospital, so they could be added to the stats. And then those numbers show up on a website or news program. It's read or heard and taken as verified facts. Hey ya'll the numbers are rising. Yeah, how did you find that out? I read it online, or saw it on CNN. Oh shit, then it must be true then. Thanks for telling me man. Now I'm getting scared. It's not safe. It's getting worse out here.
I feel the same way about the media as I did with dudes on their computers back in the states reporting to who ever would listen, how bad the DR is, and how much danger expats and stuck tourists are in because Dominicans are going to be robbing and killing tourists left and right just to survive. Just because it's said, reported or assumed doesn't make it true. Just because it comes from an authoritative like source doesn't make it fact either. Is it easy to manipulate people, when you can control what they believe? If cases are on the rise, are recoveries on the rise also? How come you don't hear much about that? Most people survive Covid-19. So much emphasis on cases supposedly rising. One thing just might over ride the other to a certain extent. Rant finished.[/QUOTE]Official statistics have reported numbers of confirmed cases are rising through the roof in the United States and rising significantly in the DR. That is not up for debate, its fact. A person booking a flight and hotel has to take those numbers into consideration because those are the numbers government officials are probably going to have to form their travel and quarantine policies around.
Personally, I think governments and the media have over-reacted to this pandemic. I don't know a single person who has died or become seriously ill from it. The vast majority of people who have died from it were probably going to die within a few years anyway. Its a horrible thing to say, but its probably true. I think numbers are rising drastically also due to more testing as well as the opening of the economy.
Even though I think we have over-reacted to the Pandemic, I still feel Trump didn't due a sufficient job at keeping infections to a minimum. I also think if Barrack Obama or Hilary Clinton were President, the media would portray the Virus and Pandemic in a very different light. Its also quite possible Obama would have handled the situation better as he did with Hurricane Sandy and the Recession of 2008. I think Trump is probably a little paranoid from the constant harassment from the media and quasi-fake scandals such as Russia-Gate and being impeached without much evidence. I think any normal Politician would be after surviving such scandals. Regardless, he should take the Pandemic more serious and be more Presidential in his approach of how he handles these matters. I think the childlike fighting between him, the media, republicans, democrats, has really hurt the nation and lead to a more severe Pandemic. This in turn has lead to more countries to impose quarantines and travel restrictions. Those restrictions have fucked up my summer which was supposed to be spent annihilating Colombian pussy in Medellin. Sorry went on my own rant there. I m done.
Sidenote: I m cool with doing the Dominican Cupid / Party with chicas at my airbnb thing. Seems better than bending over backwards to fuck a half decent looking American white girl. God I miss Latin America.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465493]Met a dude earlier this week at a restaurant on PC. Told me he had been talking to a Haitian chica online. Met up with her in PP. Not sure how this got arranged, but the girls mother and brother accompanied the chica to the meet. It was conveyed by the guy to them, that it was only for them to have drinks. The guy agreed to this meet and the chicas family coming because she was young. And he thought it would make her feel more comfortable. He was not doing it because he was trying to start a relationship. But he did think she was a cool chica. So it appeared from his online contact.
To make a long story short. When the waiter came to take orders, a drink date turned into all of them ordering food. See fellas? This is why you have to watch what's going on when you set yourself up like this. More importantly, there is no need to even agree to a date like this involving bringing a mother and a brother. Because you already know that they will bring their appetites and thirsts with them when they come. And they expect you to pay for everything. Not some, everything. And they know that a foreigner is usually not going to say shit when they start taking advantage in front of the chica he is trying to hook up with.
The chica aint going to speak up for him. She isn't going to say to her family. Oh no, we are here just for drinks. The guy is not going to say anything either. Because he doesn't want to look like a jerk. So here's what happens next. Dude realizes the predicament he is in. He decides he's done with the date. Plus the police came by because they saw him dining out in the open. So he decided to take the food to go. The waiter proceeds to prepare the food to go.
The owner tries to get the guy to move to the back of the restaurant to continue dining. But the dude says he is leaving. The owner misinterpreted the guys reason for leaving. So the owner told him nastily to leave, he doesn't need his business. Said he had a bad attitude. The waiter had to explain to the owner that the food was being prepared for take out, he was leaving anyway. But when the owner basically got mad and kicked him out, the guy basically left the food behind. Additionally drinks were drunk, but he ended up not paying for anything.
And guess what? The chica, the mother and the brother lost out on their meal. Worse, is that one of them had ordered a meal to go even before this fiasco. Now that's some balls. Kudos to the dude for getting out of paying for them barracuda advantage takers. However he should have never put him self in that predicament in the 1st place. Having a meeting with the chica and two family members, is a no go. His story is reinforcement for any of us who may let our little heads arrange a fucked up date like that.[/QUOTE]For me the saddest part is that he got no pussy.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2465601]Official statistics have reported numbers of confirmed cases are rising through the roof in the United States and rising significantly in the DR. That is not up for debate, its fact. [/QUOTE]I agree "officials" reported that there were confirmed cases, even came up with numbers. They said the cases were rising through the roof. We heard they were rising significantly in the DR. The thing is, I do not believe just because officials report something that they are 100% facts. I believe certain individuals were given the power to be the "official" source for reporting purposes. An entity that a whole segment of the population is supposed to rely on without question, thereby circumventing the need to verify and validate. Easier that way to control the masses if you will.
It works. Who is going to question an "official" report? Nobody. It's official, then it's facts, undeniable. Is there any validity or concern that many so called confirmed cases of Covid 19 were not Covid 19 cases at all? Does it cross the mind that unofficially, many people recovered from Covid 19 on their own, un-tethered to any health care monitoring system? What are the unofficial statistics for that? Remember all of the "official" reports many of us grew up with that eventually became false? But we never questioned it's validity or why it was used. A small one comes to mind. Health officials told the masses years ago, that margarine was healthier for you than butter. That fat from butter lead to heart disease. Years later we find out the truth that margarine is worse than butter.
And in fact may have ingredients in it close to resembling plastic compounds. The FDA has a history of being the official bamboozling agent for the masses. Do you know how many dangerous drugs and processed foods have been approved for human consumption by the FDA? And look at how the FDA and other agencies put the fear of GOD into people who try to enlighten people to the benefits and alternatives to conventional medicine. It's to the point you are not allowed to say anything natural cures, without being subject to censorship. Officials are not GODS. They are reporters. They report what they want you to believe.
Anybody can say numbers are rising significantly, and it would seem believable. But does anybody ever question how are these rising cases come to the surface? Is it thousands of people nationwide in the states are going into hospitals and clinics complaining they are sick and need help? Is that how it's going down? Whenever an open event happens, people go to the beach, a rally, protesting, businesses reopening etc, officials eventually report cases are rising. And the inference made, that they are rising because of these recent events. We dont know if they are recording numbers or just telling us, and we are believing it because it makes sense, and the report came from an official.
They have actually got people believing that they were able to score thousands of new cases a day from these recent events. People just going to hospitals and clinics. And some of us sit back thinking. See I knew those people trying to get on with their lives were going to end up getting sick. And yet as individuals we don't know 100 people that supposedly got sick because they went to a rally, the beach , got a haircut, or went to the gym. We are trained to assume just from inferences. So when "officials" lock everything back up again, nobody will complain. Because the officials said so. BTW, for the record, officially and unofficially, how many recoveries have occurred concurrently with all of these rising through the roof cases?
How many people self quarantined and got over it? How many asymptomatic cases are out there where people go through the course of being exposed, but it never becomes a problem? How many people tested positive for Covid 19, because sometime in their lives they were vaccinated for the flu? They don't count those instances as a case? But there are stories out there, that many instances of covid 19 are not covid 19. And finally, there is the financial aspect/incentive. Covid 19 cases generates huge profits and revenue. The longer this drags out the more money can be made.
About the DR. Can't be so quick to believe what they report either. The DR is heavily funded by the US and China, and who knows? The DR is going play by the script that is expected of them. Think about it. As bad as the US is supposed to be in regards to rising cases and deaths, the DR opened it's borders to the US to stimulate tourism? That doesn't make sense officially or unofficially. The DR is a clone of the US. Significant rising of cases, but little to nothing said about recoveries? No ongoing up to date official or unofficial reports. It doesn't pass the smell test for me. But focusing heavily on rising numbers so they can use that as an excuse to perform or threaten to perform some action? That makes sense.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2465732]I agree "officials" reported that there were confirmed cases, even came up with numbers. They said the cases were rising through the roof. We heard they were rising significantly in the DR. The thing is, I do not believe just because officials report something that they are 100% facts. I believe certain individuals were given the power to be the "official" source for reporting purposes. An entity that a whole segment of the population is supposed to rely on without question, thereby circumventing the need to verify and validate. Easier that way to control the masses if you will. (snip) [/QUOTE]I am taking the bait to chime in on your rants. I apologize to the saner readers / members of the site.
People need to understand a few things about data collection. Any and all "official" reports on any data about a population is subject to errors in the way the data was collected; errors in the way the data was processed; errors in the way the data was summarized, categorized, and presented; and errors in the actual persons from whom the data was collected. The better, if not proper, interpretation of "official" reports is "to the best of our current knowledge, technology, and practices". It is crazy to argue whether or not an "official" report is factual. The non-crazy argument is whether or not the data in the "official" report was collected in a manner that does not bias that data, whether or not the data was processed according to best practices, and whether or not the data is presented in a manner that does not mislead the users of the data.
It is up to the citizenry to keep themselves informed about things, develop an attitude of reasonable skepticism, and above all develop strong critical thinking skills. The masses can only be controlled if they keep themselves ignorant.
An example. Herd immunity. There is a train of thought making the rounds of American society that if enough Americans get infected with the virus, then the country can re-open the economy because most of the population will immune. There is now enough data on the effects of the virus on the body, even for those who have mild symptoms, to realize that the idea of arriving at herd immunity through deliberate infection is completely insane. The virus attacks the circulatory system everywhere in the body. The lungs are the most frequent target, but the digestive system, the heart, the brain, the kidneys, the liver, etc. Are also affected. (Read about COVID toes!) The virus damages all the body's organs and makes a person who recovers more susceptible to other illnesses in the future. The impact of seasonal flu on coronovirus won't be a pretty sight.
Don't play games with this disease by resorting to childish irrational rants. Keep safe and healthy. No one has reported on this yet, but I will make a speculative statement to this site due to our hobby. If the virus damages the circulatory system the way MDs are saying, then we men are at risk of erectile dysfunction should we get infected. And ED medications (viagra etc.) likely won't work as intended after recovering from an infection.
[QUOTE=George90;2465776]I am taking the bait to chime in on your rants. I apologize to the saner readers / members of the site.
People need to understand a few things about data collection. Any and all "official" reports on any data about a population is subject to errors in the way the data was collected; errors in the way the data was processed; errors in the way the data was summarized, categorized, and presented; and errors in the actual persons from whom the data was collected. The better, if not proper, interpretation of "official" reports is "to the best of our current knowledge, technology, and practices". It is crazy to argue whether or not an "official" report is factual. The non-crazy argument is whether or not the data in the "official" report was collected in a manner that does not bias that data, whether or not the data was processed according to best practices, and whether or not the data is presented in a manner that does not mislead the users of the data.
It is up to the citizenry to keep themselves informed about things, develop an attitude of reasonable skepticism, and above all develop strong critical thinking skills. The masses can only be controlled if they keep themselves ignorant.
An example. Herd immunity. There is a train of thought making the rounds of American society that if enough Americans get infected with the virus, then the country can re-open the economy because most of the population will immune. There is now enough data on the effects of the virus on the body, even for those who have mild symptoms, to realize that the idea of arriving at herd immunity through deliberate infection is completely insane. The virus attacks the circulatory system everywhere in the body. The lungs are the most frequent target, but the digestive system, the heart, the brain, the kidneys, the liver, etc. Are also affected. (Read about COVID toes!) The virus damages all the body's organs and makes a person who recovers more susceptible to other illnesses in the future. The impact of seasonal flu on coronovirus won't be a pretty sight.
Don't play games with this disease by resorting to childish irrational rants. Keep safe and healthy. No one has reported on this yet, but I will make a speculative statement to this site due to our hobby. If the virus damages the circulatory system the way MDs are saying, then we men are at risk of erectile dysfunction should we get infected. And ED medications (viagra etc.) likely won't work as intended after recovering from an infection.[/QUOTE]I too would also like to apologize to the sane readers of this forum for hijacking this thread haha. In regards to the official data and how its collected I agree with both of you.
I think governments were ultimately left with two options regarding the virus. Either a complete and total lockdown for several months to stop the spread, or a quasi-lockdown to slow the spread and not overwhelm hospitals. Personally, I think in a capitalist nation such as the USA, a quasi-lockdown was the right strategy. I think the economic and social damage done from a total lockdown would have been catastrophic and worse than the virus itself. Suicide, crime, poverty, and deterioration of mental health would have been extreme in such a scenario. I have not seen anywhere nor do I believe that the virus has significant long term effects on those who have mild symptoms. I was sick with the virus for a week. I feel absolutely fine now. In older and weaker patients, I am sure the virus does some permanent damage to their organs, but for 95% of the population this isn't true. I could be wrong obviously as I am not an expert, but I have not seen anywhere or heard from anyone that the virus permanently damages the organs of people with mild symptoms. I don't think any nation, except for the UK/ Sweden maybe, planned on purposely reaching heard immunity. I think they just realized what a monumental task it would be to prevent heard immunity from naturally occurring and if it did it occur it would simultaneously do more damage to society than the actual virus. This Virus is just nature running its course. Hurricanes, volcanoes, floods, earthquakes, and pandemics are always going to occur, and there will be times when we simply can't stop them. I am still in awe of how a nation of 1. 4 billion people like China was able to stop the virus while every other nation on Earth has failed to do so. I suppose it is easier to accomplish this in a one party state-controlled society, but credit should be given none-the less. I think in a capitalistic-democratic-free market society such as ours it just would not have been feasible.
With all that being said, I still think our government handled it poorly due to poor Federal leadership and lack of cooperation at the state and local level. Ok I am done I will not waste anymore space on this forum with this nonsense.
What's the new going rate for chicas that are 7+? A popular Youtuber said start at dop 1 k. He said 2 k is generous. Most chicks wanted 1. 5 k from me 2 years ago. I declined 2. 5 k from a 8 at a bar.
Flew Jetblue nonstop to STI, flight was uneventful even though pretty crowded but middle seats were all left vacant. Immigration at STI was excellent but luggage was late. A gentleman was waiting to drive me to Sosua. He had a mask on as did I, for his safety. Got in around 7 PM. Playero was open and checked my temperature at entry. I was impressed with that as so far only my dentist has done that back home. Everyone at playero had masks on! Yea FL, learn!
Went out at 10 PM for a stroll all the way to Pedro Clisante. Desolate!. Well I attached a picture for that too! No woman, no cry!
[QUOTE=Cool;2465891]What's the new going rate for chicas that are 7+? A popular Youtuber said start at dop 1 k. He said 2 k is generous. Most chicks wanted 1. 5 k from me 2 years ago. I declined 2. 5 k from a 8 at a bar.[/QUOTE]Which one? Can you post / PM a source here?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2465952]Flew Jetblue nonstop to STI, flight was uneventful even though pretty crowded but middle seats were all left vacant. Immigration at STI was excellent but luggage was late. A gentleman was waiting to drive me to Sosua. He had a mask on as did I, for his safety. Got in around 7 PM. Playero was open and checked my temperature at entry. I was impressed with that as so far only my dentist has done that back home. Everyone at playero had masks on! Yea FL, learn!
Went out at 10 PM for a stroll all the way to Pedro Clisante. Desolate!. Well I attached a picture for that too! No woman, no cry![/QUOTE]I have a buddy flying into POP from JFK today. NON STOP. Where did your flight to STI originate? And which route did you take to get to Sosua? The mountain route from Moca or the usual route through Puerto Plata?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2465952]Flew Jetblue nonstop to STI, flight was uneventful even though pretty crowded but middle seats were all left vacant. Immigration at STI was excellent but luggage was late. A gentleman was waiting to drive me to Sosua. He had a mask on as did I, for his safety. Got in around 7 PM. Playero was open and checked my temperature at entry. I was impressed with that as so far only my dentist has done that back home. Everyone at playero had masks on! Yea FL, learn!
Went out at 10 PM for a stroll all the way to Pedro Clisante. Desolate!. Well I attached a picture for that too! No woman, no cry![/QUOTE]Ouch; hopefully it perks up for you; Where are you thinking about this week? Would love to get some more reports here given you are there right now; I'm considering the week of 8/3 and want to see if it perks up by then.
Right now over the next few weeks, I'm debating either north coast or south coast; If I go north the plan is Sosua / Costambar (if Blackbeard's opens), but if not, going into Santo Domingo at Jaragua. Either way, curious if you guys have recommendations on where the current or projected hot spots might be. I'm staying at New Garden hotel (or at least would be) and here is a snippet of the map around the area. Any suggestions for food, women, bars, etc?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2465952]Flew Jetblue nonstop to STI, flight was uneventful even though pretty crowded but middle seats were all left vacant. Immigration at STI was excellent but luggage was late. A gentleman was waiting to drive me to Sosua. He had a mask on as did I, for his safety. Got in around 7 PM. Playero was open and checked my temperature at entry. I was impressed with that as so far only my dentist has done that back home. Everyone at playero had masks on! Yea FL, learn!
Went out at 10 PM for a stroll all the way to Pedro Clisante. Desolate!. Well I attached a picture for that too! No woman, no cry![/QUOTE]Thanks for the update and photos.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2466078]I have a buddy flying into POP from JFK today. NON STOP. Where did your flight to STI originate? And which route did you take to get to Sosua? The mountain route from Moca or the usual route through Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]From BOS. The mountain road but it was terrible as most of it is dug up, once again. Took about two hours. Fortunately the guy had a SUV but he also drove slow with 500 bumps and holes on the surface, which until fairly recently was all paved.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2466080]Ouch; hopefully it perks up for you; Where are you thinking about this week? Would love to get some more reports here given you are there right now; [/QUOTE]As far as I am concerned, the main street can remain closed for ever, for it is not where I go to fish. Obviously for first timers or infrequent travelers, it is an issue.
I would write a few more observations as I traverse through the week, not a problem but for the reason cited above, it probably is not going to help others much in terms of finding women.
Last night as I was going for a leisurely stroll (I had a woman visit me earlier at 8), two women gave me a holler and of course, I declined but in essence at that hour I did not see more than 4/5 women all told (not a single worthwhile according to me) and that too, not on the main drag. The main street was practically devoid of human beings as I walked all the way to the casino and back. On the way, I stopped at the German eatery (where the Haitians congregate) and chatted with the owner who was livid that at 9. 30 he had to close and mentioned that others may have greased someone's palm to stay open.
This morning, I went to Caribe Express and Superpola (super market): both places had someone posted at the entry taking temp and Jetblue, did not even attempt that. Our home country thanks to the divisive politics is slowly turning into a third world country, repudiating science that brought the first man on the moon. Tant pis!
It was a gorgeous day but hot. I have added some photos.
I had a person visit me at around 11 and stayed with me through 2 PM. We had lunch together and surprisingly the fish I bought (mero the guy said) was excellent and I paid 450 pesos for two meals.
I went out at 7 PM when the heat was down but it was still light and have added some photos. I went out again for a stroll as I was not hungry yet. The place is desolate on main street and around the key areas at that hour. There were a few women around at the intersection of where the Canadian hamburger place (shuttered) was but the seedier side. I would discourage all newbies or those without a rolodesk, not to show up.
I heard some bachata piped out in front of a bar with a gathering of 10 people and all had masks but as chin covers.
The website has problems attaching pictures. Let me try again.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2466165]As far as I am concerned, the main street can remain closed for ever, for it is not where I go to fish. Obviously for first timers or infrequent travelers, it is an issue.
I would write a few more observations as I traverse through the week, not a problem but for the reason cited above, it probably is not going to help others much in terms of finding women.
Last night as I was going for a leisurely stroll (I had a woman visit me earlier at 8), two women gave me a holler and of course, I declined but in essence at that hour I did not see more than 4/5 women all told (not a single worthwhile according to me) and that too, not on the main drag. The main street was practically devoid of human beings as I walked all the way to the casino and back. On the way, I stopped at the German eatery (where the Haitians congregate) and chatted with the owner who was livid that at 9. 30 he had to close and mentioned that others may have greased someone's palm to stay open.
This morning, I went to Caribe Express and Superpola (super market): both places had someone posted at the entry taking temp and Jetblue, did not even attempt that. Our home country thanks to the divisive politics is slowly turning into a third world country, repudiating science that brought the first man on the moon. Tant pis![/QUOTE]Why would you want the main street to close? As you said, it's going to hurt inexperienced folks and first times, but will also drive down the competition to online only which will drive up the price. Ease + Accessibility + Competition will drive down the price and drive up quality.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2466383]Why would you want the main street to close? As you said, it's going to hurt inexperienced folks and first times, but will also drive down the competition to online only which will drive up the price. Ease + Accessibility + Competition will drive down the price and drive up quality.[/QUOTE]I always thought that online drives down the price. If a chick has to get up and put on hoe clothes and pay to get to the strip and walk those hot ass streets or go inside of a club, then it seems she will want more money. If she is at home doing nothing and her message rings you can probably get her for bargain basement. Or at least that has been my experience.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2466383]Why would you want the main street to close? As you said, it's going to hurt inexperienced folks and first times, but will also drive down the competition to online only which will drive up the price. Ease + Accessibility + Competition will drive down the price and drive up quality.[/QUOTE]In my home country sex prison wasteland, all there is online connecting.
The DR is different. It's more like a date. With online, if the picture doesn't match, or if she smells funny, you wasted your time.
Here you can meet and greet and audition a potential partner up close and personal over a coffee or a beer, and take a pass if you don't like the vibes, and call over the next one. That's the fun part of the beach and the bars.
A pleasant way to spend time, just deciding who turns you on enough to part with some of your hard earned pesos.
IMHO.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2466383]Why would you want the main street to close? As you said, it's going to hurt inexperienced folks and first times, but will also drive down the competition to online only which will drive up the price. Ease + Accessibility + Competition will drive down the price and drive up quality.[/QUOTE]I don't see where I said that I wanted the Main St. To close. Now you might be a disciple of Milton Friedman but I am going to let it the rest of your comments slide by.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2466003]Which one? Can you post / PM a source here?[/QUOTE]Flip Flop (Irish / Black) gave his blessing to circulate his channel. The other Youtuber was a guest on Flip and he shared his wisdom on reset prices. I wouldn't posted but Flip said it was cool this morning.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2466478]In my home country sex prison wasteland, all there is online connecting.
Here you can meet and greet and audition a potential partner up close and personal over a coffee or a beer, and take a pass if you don't like the vibes, and call over the next one. That's the fun part of the beach and the bars.
IMHO.[/QUOTE]Exactly this; Can't count the number of times I have spoken to a girl online, and then someone totally different shows up. The vibe of the girl is hard to pick up online unless you really invest a lot of time with chat, etc.
Online can be with girls wasting my time thinking she can post pics of a 10 and show up as a 3.
A participant and a thoughtful contributor to this forum just asked me a question. I felt his question was very germane to the situation at hand.
If you do meet and greet here (in club / street etc) as has always been the case, you are also looking at the potential of picking up the COVID virus. I really had not thought of this probability but it is something we all as visitors need to grapple with. Given what happened in FL, TX etc and my understanding is that flights from FL are coming in (without any temp check at the airport), and as I saw quite a few last night using masks as chin covers, you would wonder about the cumulative impact of all that. I must also say, that the temp checks are standard here at any sensible business establishment I have been to.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2466530]A participant and a thoughtful contributor to this forum just asked me a question. I felt his question was very germane to the situation at hand.
If you do meet and greet here (in club / street etc) as has always been the case, you are also looking at the potential of picking up the COVID virus. I really had not thought of this probability but it is something we all as visitors need to grapple with. Given what happened in FL, TX etc and my understanding is that flights from FL are coming in (without any temp check at the airport), and as I saw quite a few last night using masks as chin covers, you would wonder about the cumulative impact of all that. I must also say, that the temp checks are standard here at any sensible business establishment I have been to.[/QUOTE]Some people are not forfeiting their summer. What if someone forfeit their summer and have an accident this Fall? I don't want Covid but if there is no vaccine in 18 mos half of the world could catch it. It could be a lower scale Spanish Flu again. Too much Covid talk on this board.
The photo is willfully fuzzy as I presume others may not like to see themselves on line either.
Interestingly, I saw a bunch of people all moving in groups, who appeared to be from Chicago, NYC or Atlanta or similar place and these people had congregated at the open air place on the main drag just behind the metro bus place, seen in the photo. I also saw some women on the street corners.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2466530]If you do meet and greet here (in club / street etc) as has always been the case, you are also looking at the potential of picking up the COVID virus. I really had not thought of this probability but it is something we all as visitors need to grapple with. [/QUOTE]If you meet a chick online and she comes over to fuck you are looking at the potential of picking up the virus. Does not matter how many people you are around; it just matters that you are around ONE that has it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2466597]If you meet a chick online and she comes over to fuck you are looking at the potential of picking up the virus. Does not matter how many people you are around; it just matters that you are around ONE that has it.[/QUOTE]True. I was contrasting it to bringing in someone you know or keep in touch with as against random pick up. Of course we all are vulnerable, the person you "know" and an asymptomatic I, spreading it, which is why one speaks of probability.
[QUOTE=Cool;2466503]Flip Flop (Irish / Black) gave his blessing to circulate his channel.[/QUOTE]I like this man marketing skills. But his establishment sucks. Breakfast and lunch. Not worth eating there at all.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2466566]The photo is willfully fuzzy as I presume others may not like to see themselves on line either.
Interestingly, I saw a bunch of people all moving in groups, who appeared to be from Chicago, NYC or Atlanta or similar place and these people had congregated at the open air place on the main drag just behind the metro bus place, seen in the photo. I also saw some women on the street corners.[/QUOTE]I know one of your pleasures in Sosua, is good food!
How are you doing in that regard?
My lady has had me on home cooking for almost 5 months now!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2466736]I know one of your pleasures in Sosua, is good food. How are you doing in that regard?[/QUOTE]Excellent so far! The guy who drove me to Sosua, had bought some fresh goat meat (in sosua I find only the frozen kind) there at my behest, a art of which I cooked yesterday. Otherwise I bought food. The other day, the fish was excellent I thought. A la creole. Today I had a pork steak and a pork rib, barbecued. Done right in front of me.
I still have not visited my favorite restaurants, especially the Italian one in Cabarete but they wrote back saying they are open since the 1st.
[QUOTE=Cool;2466551]Too much Covid talk on this board.[/QUOTE]There's too much COVID talk on this entire website. Mongers are having meltdowns and are getting into politically-charged back-and-forth flame wars with each other in multiple threads for days. And now you've got someone who started a thread just to talk about stocks and markets. The moderators have either lost control or don't give a shit. It's probably a combination of both.
A friend from France reminded me at the beginning of the day that it was their independence day back in 1789, I. E, 13 years after 1776.
Had a very good lunch with barbecued meat and white rice. I made a salad with an avocado and tomato, salt, pepper and olive well which was way better than what passes for a salad here. I had a pedicure done. The woman who I know, came to visit me at around 6 pm and we sat outside in the patio, and with a beautiful breeze and with the sun down, and birds chirping all around. After a while the gentleman who does the laundry came to deliver it. I could not get up with my feet in warm water. He just left it inside the apartment, without even asking for money.
I am grateful to be here.
In course of my stroll tonight I decided to take a look at Ahnvee place, the new Sosua location. I timed myself from Hotel Europa and it was a leisurely 10 minute's walk on Pedro Clisante with the infernal motorbike noise around. I have attached a picture.
The walk back was nicer. I took a "scenic" route. People at 10 PM were outside relaxing with children et al. It is still sultry.
The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant in Cabarete. Its on the beach unfortunately I forgot the name. The food is excellent.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2466805]Excellent so far! The guy who drove me to Sosua, had bought some fresh goat meat (in sosua I find only the frozen kind) there at my behest, a art of which I cooked yesterday. Otherwise I bought food. The other day, the fish was excellent I thought. A la creole. Today I had a pork steak and a pork rib, barbecued. Done right in front of me.
I still have not visited my favorite restaurants, especially the Italian one in Cabarete but they wrote back saying they are open since the 1st.[/QUOTE]The street bar Barbeque up near Europe has an excellent rep. Cheap too!
And you still can get a decent fresh lunch at one of the beach shacks!
[QUOTE=Adinga;2466927]The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant in Cabarete. Its on the beach unfortunately I forgot the name. The food is excellent.[/QUOTE]You appear to be a food aficionado too! The name is "Beachside". Beautiful locale and the best Italian that there is, on the North Coast, cooked by a genuine Italian chef as against in New Garden, where the locals learned from Gian Luca, the chef.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2467003]The street bar Barbeque up near Europe has an excellent rep. Cheap too!
And you still can get a decent fresh lunch at one of the beach shacks![/QUOTE]Interesting you mention that. I had bought from them in the past and now they seem to have focused lot more on barbecue. I also saw, two other apparent barbecue places, going towards Ahnvee last night, looking at the pictures posted streetside.
It is too bloody hot for me to get to the beach mid day although I would like to try WRX's suggestion of shack #67 if I recall. I went to Playa Chiquita this morning at around 7 AM. By 10 AM, the sun is battering down my resistance and so I go out after sundown.
I have eaten there a few times and it is the best restaurant I have tried so far in the area! Very friendly also.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467133]You appear to be a food aficionado too! The name is "Beachside". Beautiful locale and the best Italian that there is, on the North Coast, cooked by a genuine Italian chef as against in New Garden, where the locals learned from Gian Luca, the chef.[/QUOTE]
For beer connoisseurs try the Germany Restaurant. They carry 2 or 3 top German hefeweizen beers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2466597]If you meet a chick online and she comes over to fuck you are looking at the potential of picking up the virus. Does not matter how many people you are around; it just matters that you are around ONE that has it.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct! These Dominicans have no concept of awareness. All restaurants and fast food joints are now open and some are very crowded but they have not fully integrated the social distancing policy as of yet.
I see a lot of people with their masks half down to their chin as if they think the mouth is the is only part worth protecting. A good majority of working people at the airport and streets in SD are clustered together in round sitting chairs and not even covering themselves at all. The Dominican guests with large families at the all-inclusive in PP act as if the face mask is just for show. The country is now fully open but its a potential hazard for the folks from mainland especially those with weak immunity. Just my two cents on my recent observation down here.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467138]It is too bloody hot for me to get to the beach mid day although I would like to try WRX's suggestion of shack #67 if I recall. I went to Playa Chiquita this morning at around 7 AM. By 10 AM, the sun is battering down my resistance and so I go out after sundown.[/QUOTE]There's plenty of shade, and a cool breeze on the main beach.
Sosua has a lot going for it, besides chicas.
To me happiness is a tropical beach, a good companion or two, and kicking back in the shade with a cold beer served by smiling chicas, who are glad you are there, and give you their undivided attention.
No tourists yet to speak of, but when the airport and all the hotels and restorantes open up again in the fall, I expect there will be an big influx of tourists escaping the shut downs and cabin fever at home.
Thanks for the daily reports.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2466841]There's too much COVID talk on this entire website. Mongers are having meltdowns and are getting into politically-charged back-and-forth flame wars with each other in multiple threads for days. And now you've got someone who started a thread just to talk about stocks and markets. The moderators have either lost control or don't give a shit. It's probably a combination of both.[/QUOTE]Guys are emptying their sacks into lady parts only in Medellin, Bangkok, Zurich, Vienna and Tijuana, not much mongering taking place internationally to report on the internationalsexguide.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2467385]Guys are emptying their sacks into lady parts only in Medellin, Bangkok, Zurich, Vienna and Tijuana...[/QUOTE]And thank God those guys are actually writing trip reports and posting pictures. Mongers like MonkeyPaw and a few others are singlehandedly keeping ISG going.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2467269]For beer connoisseurs try the Germany Restaurant. They carry 2 or 3 top German hefeweizen beers.[/QUOTE]LOL! Germany Bar and Grill, I suppose is what you allude to. That is another of my favorite haunts. I love the variety of German sausages there. I do have to say though that the Austrian place on main street is way better with its Schnitzel.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2467352]Sosua has a lot going for it, besides chicas....
Thanks for the daily reports.[/QUOTE]I too love this place, also for its contained footprint. Chicas are only one component as we agree.
Well, there is nothing that you and the other local residents already do not know.
I went out to the main drag at 8 PM last night and everything was shuttered down by then. I saw some women hanging around on the corner but I would not touch any.
Speaking of COVID and awareness, I was surprised by two things: all come in with the mask on and, more interestingly, a few wondered about me. So I told them that I went to Playero etc and had to do the temp check, which helped them relax. The mothers in particular are more wary I thought, despite the fact that they know me. It is a good thing.
[QUOTE=TNtraveler;2467230]I have eaten there a few times and it is the best restaurant I have tried so far in the area! Very friendly also.[/QUOTE]Indeed, if you like authentic Italian (not the crappy Olive Garden nonsense where I come from), there is no two way about it. Gian Luca's place is the best and as you said, he is also a very affable kind. We need more people frequenting his place.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2467269]For beer connoisseurs try the Germany Restaurant. They carry 2 or 3 top German hefeweizen beers.[/QUOTE]They have got a full range of good German beers here. Zabringer in all colors from pale to negro.
Us old Brits miss our Guinness though, not sold anywhere, even in the "Irish" pubs!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467433]Indeed, if you like authentic Italian (not the crappy Olive Garden nonsense where I come from), there is no two way about it. Gian Luca's place is the best and as you said, he is also a very affable kind. We need more people frequenting his place.[/QUOTE]Mofongo King on the beach is one of my favorites.
One other thing I love in the tropics are the fruits. I have not tried cutting up a pineapple in a long time, because I don't care for the ones I find at my place. The other day I bought one though, and it smelled nice but I had not mustered the courage to clean the fruit up. Mangoes are so much easier!
Today, a woman visited me and I asked her if she knew how to do it. She nodded and when she was free, got to working on it. I told her to take some of the fruit home. She was pleased and left my part in the refrigerator. Later, when I went to check, she had also cleaned the dishes in the sink I had left earlier and I did not even ask her to do that.
On another note, I went to Germany restaurant. It was 8 PM and they like others, were closing down. Darn, I like the idea of a late and leisurely dinner while on vacation, every now and then.
Tempo.
The beer is on me.
I'm hoping to go to Sosua in September.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2467562]Tempo. The beer is on me. I'm hoping to go to Sosua in September.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Right now the talk is about a potential re-imposing of curfew, whatever that means. The case load is apparently increasing and I can see why. Many have masks as decorative chin covers and some are walking the streets, screeching, the way the locals speak.
Coming back, I went out lunch time today, braving the sun and here are some pictures of the main street around 2 PM from the vantage point of the restaurant with alfresco dining (had the schnitzel but it was disappointing today plus a price of 500 pesos PLUS an additional 18% my total bill was 950 pesos with a corona beer and expresso; the Germany Bar and Grill, if I recall has it at 300 pesos with taxes included).
The street looked more animated with some women looking for business.
Is the Ahnvee Resort in Sosua the new Blackbeard's. What the pros and cons also compare the two.
Went for lunch there. Called an Uber, the rate shown was 225 pesos. When I went to pay, cash, the guys says: 10 dollars. What? The fellow says, he was trying to keep it simple, dollars for Americans. I told him, many are suckers without elementary math skill or because they are drunk but that I am going to file a complaint for asking 3 times.
Attaching some photos at the restaurant!
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2467936]Is the Ahnvee Resort in Sosua the new Blackbeard's. What the pros and cons also compare the two.[/QUOTE]Where did you hear this.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467968]Went for lunch there. Called an Uber, the rate shown was 225 pesos. When I went to pay, cash, the guys says: 10 dollars. What? The fellow says, he was trying to keep it simple, dollars for Americans.[/QUOTE]Well that is the same thing the girls do and it seems to work for them.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467968]Went for lunch there. Called an Uber, the rate shown was 225 pesos. When I went to pay, cash, the guys says: 10 dollars. What? The fellow says, he was trying to keep it simple, dollars for Americans. I told him, many are suckers without elementary math skill or because they are drunk but that I am going to file a complaint for asking 3 times.
Attaching some photos at the restaurant![/QUOTE]That's only 3. 95, hate scammers.
I like Cabarete. I like taking a worthwhile date there occasionally. But I absolutely hate paying 28% taxes on top of my bill. Of course living day to day, if I get my Dominican take out, I pay 125 to 175 pesos for lunch. My meat (is tender) , brown rice with beans, and 1 or 2 sides. (usually green salad and / or potato / macaroni salad). During the lock down, I bought more groceries than ever, and prepared most of my meals at home.
So I kinda got used to a frugal eating pattern. With no tourists around and no beach, I was going to my local Dominican spot every now and then. Now that some of my vacationing friends are in town, I have stepped up to 800 pesos to 1,000 pesos per outing hanging with them. LOL. Yesterday paid a huge tab for 4 of us. When they leave, I'll be back to a more simplistic eating and paying pattern. Except for the beach. As long as it's open, got to have my fish. 2 nights ago, I finally made to the Italian restaurant across from Flip Flop. Forgot the name. Starts with a T.
My buddy and I both had the linguine with shrimp. He had the red sauce and I had the white. Shared it so we both knew what red or white sauces tasted like. Very good. The bread dipped in olive oil was good too. Each dish alone was 650 pesos. We only drank water. My buddy paid the bill, so not sure if 28% taxes was in the bill or the standard 10% service. But I'm sure he tipped our server on top of what was on the bill. Flip Flop makes a great Tequila Sunrise. A little sweet, but good.
BTW I showed one of my buddies the small Dominican spot where I get my meals on the cheap, he loved it the 1st day, plowed through it like he was starving. He said he went back on his own another day.
Chicas need money, so enough have come to Sosua looking for it. Mongers need / want pussy, so enough mongers have come to Sosua looking for it. How are both camps doing? Not sure. Things are definitely not the same. Especially when you have plenty of shit to worry about, moreso than ever. From the guys perspective, they are looking at the talent that has made it to Sosua. What is here may be considered doable, but it doesn't reach the level of old Rumba, Dee Latin, Merengue or Clasico days when these places were full of chicas. Nice looking ones.
Plus the numbers. Chicas are not significantly out numbering the guys that made it here. There is not a huge supply to meet the demand, IMHO. A lot of "sausage" is in town to match the "providers" on duty. :).
Be mindful, some of the vet chicas we still see in and around Sosua were at one time the cream of the crop. But they got older. Many don't look hot like they did back in 2010 - 2014. But they are still working. We have had a plethora of fresh 18 yr olds hit the scene in the last 6 years, and for the most part they brought in a lower class mentality with them. So you have the youth, but you don't have the feminine character traits that previous generation of chicas had. So no matter if it's prepandemic or postpandemic, chica quality is on a decline.
Of course we also have had a major influx of mongers over the years as well. Many guys young, old and in between. Guys that still had / have to learn by trial and error the ropes in dealing with the past, present and potential future element. The chicas, the hustlers, normal folks and ones own ignorance / stupidity getting in the way.
Can and are guys finding chicas to enjoy? Yes they are. Are spontaneous hookups still going on? Yes they are. Can a good time be had by guys that made it here as well as profitable for chicas / hustlers? Yes and yes.
Do the chicas seem much hungrier than in recent months / years? To me they do. And IMO guys should use that to their advantage. Now's not the time for chicas to be playing hard ball with their pricing expectations. There is not any real night life right now. So it would be in a chicas best interest to get clients while the irons are hot.
Case in point. Kings closed at 8 pm yesterday. After that chicas almost had no where to go. The police are not going to allow them to roam the streets freely. So where did they go? Well some went over to Las Palmeras like they did the previous night, looking for clients. The TreeHouse two was open. Just finished a birthday party for a guest. So here it is about 820 pm and these chicas haven't had a client. Then next I go around the corner on PC and I see a bunch of thirsty chicas standing by the liquor store. There is an alley there where some chicas stay.
You go further down and chicas are in the area of the bancos, and Hotel Europa. Ducking and hiding, trying to get picked up. On one hand it's convenient for guys to have women damn near begging to be scooped up. But on the other hand it looks like the desperation of chicks with no class. At least when chicks posted up in the usual venues, it gave them the appearance of having some class. Guys could feel like they were hunting. Now it seems that guys are more the hunted.
Oh well, some random thoughts. 45 day state of emergency is commencing soon. Standby for official reports on what it entails for locals, foreigners/tourists.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467968]Went for lunch there. Called an Uber, the rate shown was 225 pesos. When I went to pay, cash, the guys says: 10 dollars. What? The fellow says, he was trying to keep it simple, dollars for Americans. I told him, many are suckers without elementary math skill or because they are drunk but that I am going to file a complaint for asking 3 times.[/QUOTE]Same all over the world, unfortunately! Try Paris, Rome or London.
In the DR, there are always 2 prices. One for Dominicans and residents and one for tourists.
The trick is to get on the Dominican economy, and stay there!
Not easily done unless you spend a little time there, and they get to know you.
I'm hearing from guys now visiting Sosua that the girls are saying the American dollar has increased by 58 %. They mean the pesos are 58 dop to 1 usd. The girls are saying this works out great for both parties and the guys can now pay 3 k to 5 k because the American dollar is so strong and it's the same deal as before. The newbies usually don't understand the exchange rate fluctuations and just want pussy, so he pays. Heads up fellas.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2467936]Is the Ahnvee Resort in Sosua the new Blackbeard's. What the pros and cons also compare the two.[/QUOTE]Having stayed at Ahnvee I can offer insights. Never stayed but visited Blackbeards.
Ahnvee was a all inclusive upscale resort without resident girls for a while. For some reason fell out of favor and upkeep and maintenance declined. All the same found some life when the mayor closed down Main Street clubs. Layout is large with many apartment style units. If you do go there check out the room they give you to make sure air con, shower, toilet works. Also they have a small safe deposit box with a key not digital. Unit comes with a entry hall with kitchen area with no stove but there is a fridge. A living room with sofa and table. Then you enter a shower toilet area and beyond that is the bedroom with nice king bed. Once again check everything to make sure it is to your satisfaction otherwise ask them to show another unit. Make sure you get hot water in the shower. Do not accept any excuses. You are paying and likewise you should be comfortable.
Do not know the situation now. My travel last was before COVID. At that time room included free breakfast. In the evening there is a pool area and bar where lots girls hang out. You can take any girl to the after after negotiation and security check cedula. Later after 9 pm their disco opens in another building. Lots more girls are up for fun. If you rent a car like I do there is plenty of room for parking. Last time I met the owner / manager who was nice. He told me he is going to make the resort modern whatever that means.
Blackbeard's is essentially a brothel with in house girls on fixed rate. No game playing necessary. I heard rooms are nice. I went for the pool party there and they had good food. Some nice looking girls. Blackbeard is tucked in a kind of remote area and to anywhere you need transportation. There is a beach there close by. Blackbeard do arrange for tours and such.
Tier for girl services are one time or all night services. You need to negotiate special services directly with the girl. If you do not fancy any of the girls they will have a special call out girls. If you do not Like any of the uncertainties in chase and catch fun you will like Blackbeard's.
If they are saying they don't want to encourage large groups of people from gathering, Bye Bye Kings, etc.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468172]If they are saying they don't want to encourage large groups of people from gathering, Bye Bye Kings, etc.[/QUOTE]Thing is, it's implementation may be modified and tweaked in the hours and days to come. For instance. Maybe restaurants and other businesses may still be allowed to operate on the beach, but swimming is not allowed? Many locals won't go to the beach if they can't get in the water, and / or not allowed to set up their area with their own food and drink. At an approved beach venue, those establishments will be good as long as they can follow the guidelines that were set up, in order for them to operate.
That may reduce the local crowds from gathering, significantly. And appease the authorities. Locals are not likely to spend their money at beach venues. And lastly, Im sure at the meeting they were speaking Spanish. The article/piece is in English. Which means somebody had to have translated it from Spanish. It's best to make sure what was said and meant at the meeting isnt being misconstrued in context.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2468155]I like Cabarete. I like taking a worthwhile date there occasionally. But I absolutely hate paying 28% taxes on top of my bill. [/QUOTE]Can't blame you. The 28% plus the tip I left (I could have not but I know the service staff there), easily makes up for one, even two, decent Dominican meals.
If I recall, and so far this time, I have not been to, The Germany Bar and Grill keeps the price all inclusive.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2468158]Same all over the world, unfortunately! [/QUOTE]I was taken aback by the audacity of it all, given that Uber sends you an invoice at the end of the ride (and one can pay by card, while I chose the cash option) so much so that a less than 4 dollar ride became a 10 dollar trick.
The fellow apologized profusely after he realized that I can beat him at his Spanish as well.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468048]Well that is the same thing the girls do and it seems to work for them.[/QUOTE]Sure! Taking advantage of others' ignorance is not a boy or girl thing though, it is an equal opportunity thing!
For a majority of people on earth, it is still inconceivable that when they hit sundown, there are other parts of the world where it is daytime. Unlike some who fly because it is their job, many travel, paying their hard earned money. For some it might be their first ever time outside of the cities they have seen their whole life and so I understand their consternation at things like exchange rates. I would not go to extrapolate it on to anything else.
Apparently there is a new Presidental decree (read on DR1) closing beaches once again starting today and for 45 days, but no one knew where and when including the cops on the beach. I was expecting this as I saw locals behaving rather irresponsibly, drinking, screaming with the mask covering the chin.
I went to check the main beach and the restaurants today and found everything to be open and the groups from US all huddled together at the eating stations. In addition, some creep started to play music loud a la Domenicaine and so I gave up on Aris 67. Further up, found a restaurant, which looked quieter and so I ate there. The Owner is a Rosario, originally from Sicily, he told me, (and very friendly) but lived mostly in Koln, the reason why he offered German food as well. I enjoyed the lunch, with an ice cold beer, followed by an espresso and a small glass of grappa. The total came to about 650. Interestingly, there were quite a few women trudging up and down and all Haitienne. Today being my first day on this beach, could not tell, if the women are more numerous than last week but they were a good number and for me, quite acceptable.
I miss the night time outing, sitting in a bar, with a drink and a cigar as the world goes by but by 9 PM, the downtown is a ghost town.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2468167]Having stayed at Ahnvee I can offer insights. Never stayed but visited Blackbeards.
Ahnvee was a all inclusive upscale resort without resident girls for a while. For some reason fell out of favor and upkeep and maintenance declined. All the same found some life when the mayor closed down Main Street clubs. Layout is large with many apartment style units. If you do go there check out the room they give you to make sure air con, shower, toilet works. Also they have a small safe deposit box with a key not digital. Unit comes with a entry hall with kitchen area with no stove but there is a fridge. A living room with sofa and table. Then you enter a shower toilet area and beyond that is the bedroom with nice king bed. Once again check everything to make sure it is to your satisfaction otherwise ask them to show another unit. Make sure you get hot water in the shower. Do not accept any excuses. You are paying and likewise you should be comfortable.
Do not know the situation now. My travel last was before COVID. At that time room included free breakfast. In the evening there is a pool area and bar where lots girls hang out. You can take any girl to the after after negotiation and security check cedula. Later after 9 pm their disco opens in another building. Lots more girls are up for fun. If you rent a car like I do there is plenty of room for parking. Last time I met the owner / manager who was nice. He told me he is going to make the resort modern whatever that means.
Blackbeard's is essentially a brothel with in house girls on fixed rate. No game playing necessary. I heard rooms are nice. I went for the pool party there and they had good food. Some nice looking girls. Blackbeard is tucked in a kind of remote area and to anywhere you need transportation. There is a beach there close by. Blackbeard do arrange for tours and such.
Tier for girl services are one time or all night services. You need to negotiate special services directly with the girl. If you do not fancy any of the girls they will have a special call out girls. If you do not Like any of the uncertainties in chase and catch fun you will like Blackbeard's.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sammon for that valuable info. Its a shame that the place is in such disrepair because of the great potential. Too much of a risk.
The second day of the second curfew.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2469229]The second day of the second curfew.[/QUOTE]More struggling Sosua businesses will be going broke if they keep this new SOE curfew for the full 45 days, but Dominicans are resilient and used to hardship.
I have to go back to TO to take care of passport, licence, health card status and tax stuff, and I'll be in quarantine for the first 14 days there. Can't leave the apartment, go for a beer, or shopping. No daily walk, or dip in a pool. Just me and a TV. Not exactly healthy.
But even with the restrictions, my life here is far better and I'll be happy to come back as soon as I can.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2469229]The second day of the second curfew.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2469307]But even with the restrictions, my life here is far better and I'll be happy to come back as soon as I can.[/QUOTE]I have to say that in New England, life is not bad. I am free to go wherever I wish to and at whatever time. We all do our part in ensuring safety of others by not politicizing masks like the asses in the South and at this moment, our situation COVID wise is the best in the country. If we had all done our parts right, the country would be back to normal. Both school opening and business wise.
I like to go out for a stroll here too after dark, often there is a pleasant breeze but after the new clampdown, I cannot leave after 7 PM which sucks big time.
Safe travels to Canada!
[QUOTE=Adinga;2467562]The beer is on me. I'm hoping to go to Sosua in September.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Weissbier, a picture from today. To my dismay, the food was not good including the sauteed potato. The good news was it was only 340 tax included. The beer was way better but 260 pesos. Ah well!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2469507]Speaking of Weissbier, a picture from today. To my dismay, the food was not good including the sauteed potato. The good news was it was only 340 tax included. The beer was way better but 260 pesos. Ah well![/QUOTE]High protein food LOL.
Weissbier beer my favorite!
Yesterday I found out that Metro Bus runs only ONE (out of its usual 6-7) daily service, that too, on weekdays only, from Sosua to St. Domingo, passing through Santiago. This one is at 8.20 in the morning. I did not then go on, to check with Caribe Tours about their schedule but I would imagine, they may have slashed their schedule as well. This is another contributing factor, I would think, in exacerbating the arrival of chicks at Sosua, from further south and may explain the paucity of acceptable talent I saw around.
Uber too is pretty spotty. Most times, the app said, that there were no drivers or it was a long wait. The motoconchos are around of course. I also heard anecdotally that it is the driver plus 4 passengers in the carritos plying around these days.
The weekend lock down starts at 5 PM and sucks even more. I just saw some cops on their motorcycles, presumably enforcing.
A Puerto Plata blanquita brought her prima to get to know me this morning. It is curious. The other girl is quite a morena with skinny body, nice tits on a small frame and a beautiful smile. They had beer, chips and ice cream and then the blanquita was doing the dishes and wiping the floor while the other one kept me busy. They left, after about two hours which was lunch time.
Had another one rush in around 3. 30 knowing that the clock stops at 5. 00 PM.
DR1 site has some scary news story about rising infection and death; I am sure the incoming flights are not helping as essentially US is the only country still sending people over and the infection here tracks, you know which one. Remains to be seen how long this window remains open.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2467968]Went for lunch there. Called an Uber, the rate shown was 225 pesos. When I went to pay, cash, the guys says: 10 dollars. What? The fellow says, he was trying to keep it simple, dollars for Americans. I told him, many are suckers without elementary math skill or because they are drunk but that I am going to file a complaint for asking 3 times.
Attaching some photos at the restaurant![/QUOTE]Why were you wanting to pay cash instead of a linked to the app CC with no foreign fee? That is the beauty of theses apps, no funny business.
Is Cabify in the DR? I used it in Bogota.
[QUOTE=BlakCasper;2469998]Why were you wanting to pay cash instead of a linked to the app CC with no foreign fee?
Is Cabify in the DR? I used it in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I like cash whenever I can. The spooks of google and other automatons would not be able to add more to my profile than they need to. Call me a paranoid but then I know tech.
Cabify? Never heard of it, anywhere I have been to, let alone in the DR.
Just a reminder that the water in Cabarete is not for swimming:
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/07/26/visitor-drowns-while-swimming-at-cabarete-beach-dominican-republic/[/URL]
Given that the bus services are sketchy, as is Uber in Sosua, I asked the gentleman from Santiago to come and pick me up. In two hours time, we were at STI, doing the mountain road which is really slow.
Fairly low volume of flying people on the way back. The building entry is monitored by a temperature sensor as I could see it this time, placed at the entry and rather discreet. There was a lady in nurse's scrubs at the back as well.
Uneventful flight. I tried to sneak in a few mangoes but darn, those CBP people and the USDA. Broke my heart to see them throw such scrumptious stuff in a garbage bin.
Stay safe, you all in Sosua and those that are raring to go. Unfortunately, the curfew at 5/7 PM did not go down well with me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2470412]Just a reminder that the water in Cabarete is not for swimming:
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/07/26/visitor-drowns-while-swimming-at-cabarete-beach-dominican-republic/[/URL][/QUOTE]Wauu! Good for surf! Are there surfing spots?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2469854]Yesterday I found out that Metro Bus runs only ONE (out of its usual 6-7) daily service, that too, on weekdays only, from Sosua to St. Domingo, passing through Santiago. This one is at 8.20 in the morning. I did not then go on, to check with Caribe Tours about their schedule but I would imagine, they may have slashed their schedule as well. This is another contributing factor, I would think, in exacerbating the arrival of chicks at Sosua, from further south and may explain the paucity of acceptable talent I saw around.
Uber too is pretty spotty. Most times, the app said, that there were no drivers or it was a long wait. The motoconchos are around of course. I also heard anecdotally that it is the driver plus 4 passengers in the carritos plying around these days.[/QUOTE]Uber shuts down about an hour before lockdown. I got stuck while getting into one. They shut it down and I had to grab a Motorcycle willing to take a chance. We were stopped at a roadblock but they let us pass. It looked like they were going to tow cars they had a Tow truck at the roadblock.
I don't see the price reset. Avg looking or fat mongers with no contacts will get peso depreciated adjusted quotes. I laugh at some chicks looking for weekend millionaires. Less than 20% of these chicks are 8/10 in looks. I laugh when its almost curfew time and the chick negotiates high and goes home broke. Cops, curfew, and rain has put a dent in chicas' earning potential. I'm not the biggest PI fan but broke chicks negotiate way to hard for SW level options in DR. Half of the restaurants are tourist traps. Kings got packed but they will let in friends / hot females but told me to wait 5 minutes. Ha those Dominicans they let in don't play for the Red Sox. That overpriced pickup spot hasn't seen a peso from me since. AVOID avg looking girls. You flew too far for that. It works for white senior citizens that want 18 to19 year old flesh. Avg. Looking chicks is not worth the 5 HR. Flight. They will expect close to what 7+/10's are getting for compensation. If a 8 is getting 3 to 4 k that 5 will want 2500.
I don't see the price reset. Avg looking or fat mongers with no contacts will get peso depreciated adjusted quotes. I laugh at some chicks looking for weekend millionaires. Less than 20% of these chicks are 8/10 in looks. I laugh when its almost curfew time and the chick negotiates high and goes home broke. Cops, curfew, and rain has put a dent in chicas' earning potential. I'm not the biggest PI fan but broke chicks negotiate way to hard for SW level options in DR. Half of the restaurants are tourist traps. Kings got packed but they will let in friends / hot females but told me to wait 5 minutes. Ha those Dominicans they let in don't play for the Red Sox. That overpriced pickup spot hasn't seen a peso from me since. AVOID avg looking girls. You flew too far for that. It works for white senior citizens that want 18 to 19 year old flesh. Avg. Looking chicks is not worth the 5 HR. Flight. They will expect close to what 7+/10's are getting for compensation. If a 8 is getting 3 to 4 k that 5 will want 2500.
If your new or have no contacts try to get 1 or 2 girls a day for $60 all day flat rate. This may be amateur providers.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2470439]Uneventful flight. I tried to sneak in a few mangoes but darn, those CBP people and the USDA. Broke my heart to see them throw such scrumptious stuff in a garbage bin.[/QUOTE]What would have broken your heart is if they made you pay the $500 fine for each piece. Those would have been the most expensive mangos that you had never eaten. Consider yourself lucky.
[QUOTE=Cool;2471801]If your new or have no contacts try to get 1 or 2 girls a day for $60 all day flat rate. This may be amateur providers.[/QUOTE]I was offered accommodations with a girl from Santo Domingo and and her girlfriend who lives in sousa. I just was too lazy to ride up there but they offered threesomes the room and breakfast and dinner, I wanted to do it to meet the other girl and get a low cost trip to the Sue out of the way. Oh well Still considering taking an Uber up as I don't want to wait for the Bus and get there late.
Trip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471839]What would have broken your heart is if they made you pay the $500 fine for each piece. Those would have been the most expensive mangos that you had never eaten. Consider yourself lucky.[/QUOTE]It depends where you fly into. My cousin brought in a suitcase full of breadfruit from Jamaica at Reagan National no problem. My other cousin bought seeds to plant ackee to Fort Lauderdale. A friend brought in some Jerk Pork for herself and had to dump it at BWI.
Trip.
[QUOTE=Cool;2471801]If your new or have no contacts try to get 1 or 2 girls a day for $60 all day flat rate. This may be amateur providers.[/QUOTE]I recommend this strategy because after a mid morning breakfast you have less than 10 hrs. To procure talent considering curfew. Furthermore, club game has been suspended. I no longer have the luxury of waltzing in Clasicos after 2 am and getting a last call 8/10 for $50. As aforementioned 1500 peso girls want 2 k today since the peso nosedived.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471839] Those would have been the most expensive mangoes that you had never eaten. [/QUOTE]You are right. But every now and then one does get lucky and barring Australia, it is never a pain. I remember bringing in a suitcase full of mango from the Philippines, when I used to live in the EU.
Apparently the CBP was super alert with dog etc but the officer was nice. In fact he allowed me through a separate line while others were all x-raying their bags. He also told me that if I were to bring in mangoes, without the seed, I would go through as it would be considered "processed". Well, keeping the mangoes chilled would be the biggest challenge. As it so happens, as I found out, and we laughed aloud about this. I was not the only one trying to sneak in mangoes.
I am not in Sosua to verify at the moment. I am hearing that Ahnvee is packing them in on weekends because being a "hoetel" they can be open. Girls arrive before curfew and there is a line of taxis to take guys and hoes home after curfew. Anyone care to do a recon trip to verify my info? There is always a way around the rules in the DR jajajaja.
It's about a month old but there is still mongering to be done it appears.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiT2f8g9Zu8[/URL]
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2472101]I am not in Sosua to verify at the moment. I am hearing that Ahnvee is packing them in on weekends because being a "hoetel" they can be open. Girls arrive before curfew and there is a line of taxis to take guys and hoes home after curfew. Anyone care to do a recon trip to verify my info? There is always a way around the rules in the DR jajajaja.[/QUOTE]I visited Ahnvee before curfew on Fri. And they only had 5 ladies. A couple were 7's. Some of the staff is cute too. Unless I stay at Ahnvee I'm not risking imprisonment. Good to know I should've stayed at Ahnvee for after hours talent. They had 2 girls where I stay in the pool. They were 5.5/10. Not worth 1 k or the nut. Obviously they would want more dinero.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2472101]I am not in Sosua to verify at the moment. I am hearing that Ahnvee is packing them in on weekends because being a "hoetel" they can be open. Girls arrive before curfew and there is a line of taxis to take guys and hoes home after curfew. Anyone care to do a recon trip to verify my info? There is always a way around the rules in the DR jajajaja.[/QUOTE]I have about four or five videos from inside the resort. Guys making it rain and the girls are loving it on the dance floor. Social distance was not a factor as the resort can operate With discretion behind closed doors. If you know the layout of the resort you know it has a lot of outside space as well as the disco. I did see a few people wearing mask and showing precautions. But the whole scene looks like business as usual. It is definitely worth the trip for some guys who enjoy the Ahnvee scene. Something is better than nothing (even with the lockdown) is the attitude of some of them. Not being Able to get to the DR in three or four months Of sex prison, I understand their rationale. If Boca Chica didn't save me I might have been there with them.
Wanted to make a last minute run and tried to get a covid test in the states to take with me, the DR says they don't test if you have a negative test within 5 days, didn't realize it takes days to get the results.
Does anybody that live there have any info on these "isolation facilities" they will put you in if you happen to be asymptomatic and show up?
They will test you on arrival if you do not provide them test results.
[QUOTE=Doker44;2473136]Wanted to make a last minute run and tried to get a covid test in the states to take with me, the DR says they don't test if you have a negative test within 5 days, didn't realize it takes days to get the results.
Does anybody that live there have any info on these "isolation facilities" they will put you in if you happen to be asymptomatic and show up?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Doker44;2473136]Wanted to make a last minute run and tried to get a covid test in the states to take with me, the DR says they don't test if you have a negative test within 5 days, didn't realize it takes days to get the results.
Does anybody that live there have any info on these "isolation facilities" they will put you in if you happen to be asymptomatic and show up?[/QUOTE]You don't need a test. You simply fill out a form when you get there saying that you are okay.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2473145]You don't need a test. You simply fill out a form when you get there saying that you are okay.[/QUOTE]I believe, Mr. Enternational that you entered the DR, like I did, before 7/30/20, when the DR supposedly instituted the rapid Covid test policy at the various ports of entry. Before 7/30, last month, I also filled out the form that you mentioned on the plane, although nobody asked to see the form after our plane landed at SDQ. I just scheduled my Covid test tomorrow before my next trip to the DR that's coming up soon and, still don't know if I will have the results before I leave. Can someone who entered the Dominican Republic after 7/30/20, update us as to whether Covid 19 tests are being administered on people when they arrive at the various airports in the DR?
[QUOTE=Cestme;2473175]I believe, Mr. Enternational that you entered the DR, like I did, before 7/30/20, when the DR supposedly instituted the rapid Covid test policy at the various ports of entry. Before 7/30, last month, I also filled out the form that you mentioned on the plane, although nobody asked to see the form after our plane landed at SDQ. I just scheduled my Covid test tomorrow before my next trip to the DR that's coming up soon and, still don't know if I will have the results before I leave. Can someone who entered the Dominican Republic after 7/30/20, update us as to whether Covid 19 tests are being administered on people when they arrive at the various airports in the DR?[/QUOTE]A friend of mine heard from some just arriving the last few days. You can bring a test result with you and go through. If you don't have a test result you go to a separate line & they are testing randomly on site there with results 5-10 minutes. Guys going through tests still get there before bags come out. Everyone must fill out form as mentioned.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2473175]I believe, Mr. Enternational that you entered the DR, like I did, before 7/30/20, when the DR supposedly instituted the rapid Covid test policy at the various ports of entry. Before 7/30, last month, I also filled out the form that you mentioned on the plane, although nobody asked to see the form after our plane landed at SDQ.[/QUOTE]That was my brother's paperwork. He went on the 29th. I have a friend that went yesterday and it was the same thing. No test. Just the paper.
Is it worth it to go to Sosua at this time? We all know COVID exist so lets ignore that for the sake of this post. Are there women around for the enjoyment of us should we go to Sosua in the coming weeks? I am dying to get out of sex prison USA but there seems to be no countries open for decent mongering other than the DR.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2473178]A friend of mine heard from some just arriving the last few days. You can bring a test result with you and go through. If you don't have a test result you go to a separate line & they are testing randomly on site there with results 5-10 minutes. Guys going through tests still get there before bags come out. Everyone must fill out form as mentioned.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Husker Dude, your info contains the current practice. I just read it on Dominican Today: [URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2020/08/06/34-died-from-covid-19-were-hypertensive-and-23-27-diabetic-in-dr/[/URL].
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2473192]That was my brother's paperwork. He went on the 29th. I have a friend that went yesterday and it was the same thing. No test. Just the paper.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. Enternational, rapid Covid tests are being done at the airports but perhaps inconsistently. What really puzzles me is, how is it that the Dominican Republic can administer rapid Covid test with results in a few minutes but it takes more than a week to get the results in the US?
[QUOTE=Showdown;2473203]Is it worth it to go to Sosua at this time? We all know COVID exist so lets ignore that for the sake of this post. Are there women around for the enjoyment of us should we go to Sosua in the coming weeks? I am dying to get out of sex prison USA but there seems to be no countries open for decent mongering other than the DR.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Yes. I know a girl from SD who's up there now. She won't give me many details but the fact that she texts me every couple of days to see if I willing to make the trip indicates that it's slow.
Additionally I can't see it working but there's supposed to be a two week Monger strike in Sosua, Puerto Plata and Caberete now.
I think dirty scabs will fuck it up by fucking though.
Trip.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2473221]how is it that the Dominican Republic can administer rapid Covid test with results in a few minutes but it takes more than a week to get the results in the US?[/QUOTE]I take it you don't understand the Dominican republic. They are being more politically correct than scientifically accurate. Those test cost money! For them to give every single person that comes through a test is a big financial burden. However, politically they must look like they're doing something in order to continue their reopening of tourism. IMHO, It's soon going look fishy that everybody is testing negative That come through the airport. Then we may hear something about Cheap knock off testing kits being used at the airport.
I received my Covid test results yesterday. I used an app Download it to my phone to keep in contact with my results. The results came back negative but it does not have my name or information on the results. I have to figure out how am I going to get this information on paper saying my name and I'm negative. I used CVS drive-through testing. The results took a week to come back.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2473203]Is it worth it to go to Sosua at this time?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Curfew starts at 7 PM until 5 AM during the week day. 5 PM until 5 AM during the weekends. There will be no active public nightlife. From my understanding they are allowing you to ride around in cars during the lockdown. During the daytime it looks as if it's business as usual from the videos I've seen.
Some guys, after being in sex prison for several months, went to the Sue as soon as the borders opened up. They adapt to the lockdown and make the most out of it. For them it's better than being locked down in the states. A lot of the Chica are adapting too. They can up charge and operate during the day and up charge during the night.
Ahnvee benefits the most from the lockdown just like they've benefited when the police Were harassing and arresting the chicas on the streets. Being a resort they can run business as usual behind closed doors. Many people are taking cabs to and from the resort. Its the biggest and most well-known meeting spot. They are capable of running their nightlife on the resort. Some people just go ahead and get a room there.
Like Trip said earlier, I'm not too fond of resort chica. However, Being in sex prison can make you tolerate some shit. So it's all about what you are willing to tolerate under the current circumstances.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2473221]Hey Mr. Enternational, rapid Covid tests are being done at the airports but perhaps inconsistently. What really puzzles me is, how is it that the Dominican Republic can administer rapid Covid test with results in a few minutes but it takes more than a week to get the results in the US?[/QUOTE]My brother said if they were doing them then it was randomly, because he was talking to me on the plane and I told him to hurry off and run in front of everyone, because friends were posting the day before about them testing people. I think they did it for 1 day and they realized they were overloaded so they stopped.
"they didn't check in sti, if they do it to random people. Give them tbe paperwork and go right through".
Here is a picture and post from the day before he went.
P. S. I don't know what is with the US. In Thailand I take my computer to the shop to be fixed and they tell me 1 hour and $7. In the US I take my computer to the shop to be fixed and they tell me 2 weeks and $200.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2473268]I take it you don't understand the Dominican republic. They are being more politically correct than scientifically accurate. Those test cost money! For them to give every single person that comes through a test is a big financial burden. However, politically they must look like they're doing something in order to continue their reopening of tourism. IMHO, It's soon going look fishy that everybody is testing negative That come through the airport. Then we may hear something about Cheap knock off testing kits being used at the airport.[/QUOTE]LOL. They probably swabbing everybody then looking at the qtip under a black light.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2473203]Is it worth it to go to Sosua at this time? We all know COVID exist so lets ignore that for the sake of this post. Are there women around for the enjoyment of us should we go to Sosua in the coming weeks?[/QUOTE]A while back Wrx reported the same as all my friends that have been going: Plenty of 4's and 5's walking the streets.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2473275]Curfew starts at 7 PM until 5 AM during the week day. 5 PM until 5 AM during the weekends. There will be no active public nightlife. ..........[/QUOTE]I take it many girls should be willing to do toda la noche for a cost that's less than pre-covid prices.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471839]What would have broken your heart is if they made you pay the $500 fine for each piece. Those would have been the most expensive mangos that you had never eaten. Consider yourself lucky.[/QUOTE]DR mangos! They are the best I have eaten in my life!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2473389]I take it many girls should be willing to do toda la noche for a cost that's less than pre-covid prices.[/QUOTE]That makes so much sense to us, however for many Chicas, that means up your prices because times are harder. They also have an up your prices when times are getting easier moto. Example, recently, Gogo tried to hook up someone with one of his amigas with benefit That hustles in the Sue but lives in the capital.
Gogo used to bang her for about 2000 every time she came through. Times are hard business is slow so he tries to do her a favor by sending business her way. What does she do. Attempt to charge him $100. Then she complain to Gogo when he wouldn’t except it. Only in the DR.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2473426]That makes so much sense to us, however for many Chicas, that means up your prices because times are harder. They also have an up your prices when times are getting easier moto. Example, recently, Gogo tried to hook up someone with one of his amigas with benefit That hustles in the Sue but lives in the capital.
Gogo used to bang her for about 2000 every time she came through. Times are hard business is slow so he tries to do her a favor by sending business her way. What does she do. Attempt to charge him $100. Then she complain to Gogo when he wouldnt except it. Only in the DR.[/QUOTE]Man every time I catch the bus from Sosua to Santo Domingo I meet girls on the bus who were tricking. Especially if its a Monday. Going from Santo Domingo to Sosua, Thursday and Friday are the best days.
One girl I banged in Sosua and I hooked a brother from Jersey up with her number in Santo domingo. I paid 2 k in Sosua but she told him it was 5 k in Santo Domingo. She hit me up bitching because he refused to pay 5 k, So I asked her why the price difference? And she said " I'm not a puta in Santo Domingo" LOL. She was serious about this shit.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2473449]Man every time I catch the bus from Sosua to Santo Domingo I meet girls on the bus who were tricking. Especially if its a Monday. Going from Santo Domingo to Sosua, Thursday and Friday are the best days.
One girl I banged in Sosua and I hooked a brother from Jersey up with her number in Santo domingo. I paid 2 k in Sosua but she told him it was 5 k in Santo Domingo. She hit me up bitching because he refused to pay 5 k, So I asked her why the price difference? And she said " I'm not a puta in Santo Domingo" LOL. She was serious about this shit.[/QUOTE]Hoe Logic at it's finest!
I should catch the bus up just to catch the bus down. Did you say Monday is the day most return?
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2473449]...........One girl I banged in Sosua and I hooked a brother from Jersey up with her number in Santo domingo. I paid 2 k in Sosua but she told him it was 5 k in Santo Domingo. She hit me up bitching because he refused to pay 5 k, So I asked her why the price difference? And she said " I'm not a puta in Santo Domingo" LOL. She was serious about this shit.[/QUOTE]Some years ago I sessioned a girl in Casa Teresa and on another occasion met her in Sosua and did her toda la noche for less than I paid her for one hour in Casa Teresa.
Even though there is a curfew I understand Ahnvee is still open afrer hours. Can some one explain how this works I willl be in town soon.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2473674]Even though there is a curfew I understand Ahnvee is still open afrer hours. Can some one explain how this works I willl be in town soon.[/QUOTE]You could stay at Ahnvee. Hopefully curfew ends this weekend.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2473286]A while back Wrx reported the same as all my friends that have been going: Plenty of 4's and 5's walking the streets.[/QUOTE]Last Friday LE ran off the bad chicks. Plus 75% less mongers here. A picky guy with no contacts will have a couple nights a week with no action. Yesterday the best prospect I ran into was worth 1500 max. Tall light skin slight gut and not the youngest or cutest face. Guys with contacts will do fine. Newbies should wait till Nov.
Has anybody been to this DR Nights resort in Punta Cana? If so when and how was it? I just heard about it and their website looks incredible. Too good to be true. And that is what I'm wondering. Is it a scam or legit. I would like to do a few nights there if its everything the website claims. The girls look fabulous. The price is high and they want $1,500 deposits so what's the deal does anybody know for sure?
[QUOTE=Cool;2473677]You could stay at Ahnvee. Hopefully curfew ends this weekend.[/QUOTE]Curfew has been extended for 25 days from August 9, 2020 and this extension is going to be reviewed by the new President after August 16.
I give their service 4/10. Constant rushing and renegotiating for more money and causing unnecessary hassles. DR is not a top 10 destination service wise. Not ear why dudes put these chicks on a pedestal. Appearance wise Sosua does not have chicks in top 5 looks. These chicas are unrealistic with their value. Tourism is down 85% and the way these sisters get down won't help. After the first 2 weeks of July the DR reboot has been hit or miss. If you don't overpay these chicks most will cut corners. Try to hire chicks 90 minutes. Before curfew. They will lie all day no problem to make money but will rush. Most of these chicas are wack.
The #1 question I got from the fellas when I revealed my trip was 1 month was. What is a long trip like in the Su? Most of the fellas didn't have that luxury and took trips less than a week. The answer is if DR isn't in your top 3 destinations don't do it. If you're picky don't do it. After the first week you may have a difficult time finding talent at a fair price. DR is better suited for men that worship AfroLatinas. Alot of chicks cut corners even at $130 US a hour. No Dominican will pay non celebs that much. These chicks better off servicing local men for 500 p. These chicks foul. There is a niche and fetish for every type of female. My objective was achieved. Practice my Spanish. The price point is low and I knew there would be duds and unprofessional. Not my first rodeo here. Bar closures and curfew doesn't help cause. Don't let local expat businessmen and chicas fool you. Curfew means more rushing. I've never met a Dominicana that earned repeat business or more than taxi fare as a gift not tip.
I arrived on the 9th. Plane to pop was about 30 percent full. The curfew is a pain but can be worked with. I'm staying at Europa and if the girl comes after curfew they don't mind. Its business as usual. I just tell the girl ill pay for the taxi to the hotel. Its an added cost but the dollar is strong. Europa is paying 57 per dollar at the desk. Prices are pretty much the same as always. They ask for 3500 short term, but will take 2500 and still be happy. Going under 2500 you run a greater risk of poor service. Toda la noches can be a good value right now. Some girls seem to find value in being in a hotel for curfew time. Weather is great, food is great, chicas are great, wear a mask and obey curfew and have a great time.
[QUOTE=Cool;2475448]I give their service 4/10. Constant rushing and renegotiating for more money and causing unnecessary hassles. DR is not a top 10 destination service wise. Not ear why dudes put these chicks on a pedestal. Appearance wise Sosua does not have chicks in top 5 looks. These chicas are unrealistic with their value. Tourism is down 85% and the way these sisters get down won't help. After the first 2 weeks of July the DR reboot has been hit or miss. If you don't overpay these chicks most will cut corners. Try to hire chicks 90 minutes. Before curfew. They will lie all day no problem to make money but will rush. Most of these chicas are wack.[/QUOTE]For a while I thought that I may have been alone in thinking this. I have always complained about the poor service I received from the providers in the DR. Its the worst in Latin America and close to being the worst in the world in my view being beat in that regard only by the likes of India. Even the hottest girls in the mongering world, the FKK babes in Germany, provide better service. Is it because its so close to the US?
When you go to places like Su your not finding love. 80% of the scantily clad women are in the 'game'. These chicks are fiercely loyal to the local men. Once she is in your room she knew she has secured payment even if you kick her out. Chicks only think for the day. Not future biz. If they see me next week and their in the doldrums and rent is due they may try to play me twice. These chicks see half of affluent monger soft and will rick violence for an extra 500 p. Bottom line these cholas think they are street smarter. Law enforcement / condo staff put the opus on you to choose wisely. The prettier the chick the more believable you promised 3000 vs the truth of 2500. As long as their bad faith tricks pay half the time they will jeopardize their health and repeat biz to sucker an extra 500 to 1 k. Beware: The girls know the dop tanked.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475500]For a while I thought that I may have been alone in thinking this. I have always complained about the poor service I received from the providers in the DR. Its the worst in Latin America and close to being the worst in the world in my view being beat in that regard only by the likes of India. Even the hottest girls in the mongering world, the FKK babes in Germany, provide better service. Is it because its so close to the US?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2475476]I arrived on the 9th. Plane to pop was about 30 percent full. The curfew is a pain but can be worked with. I'm staying at Europa and if the girl comes after curfew they don't mind. Its business as usual. I just tell the girl ill pay for the taxi to the hotel. Its an added cost but the dollar is strong. Europa is paying 57 per dollar at the desk. Prices are pretty much the same as always. They ask for 3500 short term, but will take 2500 and still be happy. Going under 2500 you run a greater risk of poor service. Toda la noches can be a good value right now. Some girls seem to find value in being in a hotel for curfew time. Weather is great, food is great, chicas are great, wear a mask and obey curfew and have a great time.[/QUOTE]3.
Thanks for your Report. I will arrive at Europa the 29th and stay for two weeks.
Can I ask where you get your Girls from during Curfew?
I'm checking out Badoo and found some Chicks there already.
It is not that difficult. Learn a bit of Spanish, try to work outside of the usual street walkers of Sosua by using a bit of technology and invite people from areas around. That way, you wouldn't have to deal with the usual culprits and then having to whine, as to how bad these people are. It is what it is but if you figure out how, you can make lemonade out of your lemon. You can also do yourself the favor of not coming to Sosua and save yourself the bother altogether.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2475588]It is not that difficult. Learn a bit of Spanish, try to work outside of the usual street walkers of Sosua by using a bit of technology and invite people from areas around. That way, you wouldn't have to deal with the usual culprits and then having to whine, as to how bad these people are. It is what it is but if you figure out how, you can make lemonade out of your lemon. You can also do yourself the favor of not coming to Sosua and save yourself the bother altogether.[/QUOTE]Thank you for reiterating the points I've previously brought up. Your very original. Your response was funny because my post states fact. Please don't act like street chicks don't moonlight on social media and don't meet dudes in other arenas. They are well diversified.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2475588]It is not that difficult. Learn a bit of Spanish, try to work outside of the usual street walkers of Sosua by using a bit of technology and invite people from areas around. That way, you wouldn't have to deal with the usual culprits and then having to whine, as to how bad these people are. It is what it is but if you figure out how, you can make lemonade out of your lemon. You can also do yourself the favor of not coming to Sosua and save yourself the bother altogether.[/QUOTE]I have a degree in Spanish. A lot of locals want to talk in English to get me to let my guard down.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2475588]It is not that difficult. Learn a bit of Spanish, try to work outside of the usual street walkers of Sosua by using a bit of technology and invite people from areas around. That way, you wouldn't have to deal with the usual culprits and then having to whine, as to how bad these people are. It is what it is but if you figure out how, you can make lemonade out of your lemon. You can also do yourself the favor of not coming to Sosua and save yourself the bother altogether.[/QUOTE]Please RTFF before you try to show up other Senior Members. I stated facts and am boots on the ground. SAVE your 1 cent since I went over your points of contention already. I have no problem with you caping for these basic girls. I give two caps about them. They are paid providers. I am a customer who pays fair not their dirtbag novios.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2475588]It is not that difficult. Learn a bit of Spanish, try to work outside of the usual street walkers of Sosua by using a bit of technology and invite people from areas around. That way, you wouldn't have to deal with the usual culprits and then having to whine, as to how bad these people are. It is what it is but if you figure out how, you can make lemonade out of your lemon. You can also do yourself the favor of not coming to Sosua and save yourself the bother altogether.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the posts on this board are not representative of the experience of most mongers who come to Sosua from all over the world, even Europe, in great numbers.
The whiners are mainly guys either never come here, or guys that come here often, but are always complaining anyway, or the newbie that fucks up and loses his shit, and ends up in a drama.
Go figure.
I live here and interact with visitors all the time, and most think they've died and gone to heaven with all the beautiful freelancers available, at such low prices, in a real laid back setting. Getting ripped off is a relatively rare experience, if you observe a little common sense, and a little respect, and avoid the hard core wakkos.
11 years, hundreds of sessions, and not one "rip off", and that goes for guys I know who have been coming down here to visit me. In fact the only ripping off I've found are ego guys that need to be trained in common P4P interactions.
Specifically there's one guy that came down every year from my home town and figures he can fuck the locals for free, on sheer personality. LOL. Of course he needs an intro to my circle of chica friends.
Last year we are in a bar and an old fat hard core hooker I've known since she was young and pretty came in and say Hello, I told him she was trouble, but she zeroed in on the guy. Groping, teasing, the whole deal. He didn't want to listen to me (ego?) he said she only wanted 500 pesos, (I had told him to budget 1500 -2000 a session) and took off with her across the street to her place. Came back complaining she literally stank!
Last March, he's in town again, and my regular brings her babysitter, a newbie from PP, to meet him, thinking he's my friend. We go to the bar, and they are all over each other, again. Problem, he's staying at Casa Marina, and no guests allowed. I won't let him use my place to fuck! So I tell him to take her to DC Cabana 10 minutes away.
They come back an hour later and I ask him how it was. He's smiling. I asked the girl did he pay you OK? No, she said. And he's pouring himself another drink. I said did you fuck her? Yes. Did you pay her? No. Why not? She didn't ask, he said. I said you expect to go off and fuck a complete stranger in Sosua, and no tip for the poor girl? I finally got a 1000 pesos from him, and I gave her another 500.
He never did want to ante up 2,000 -3,000 for one of my high end semi pro amigas.
He's not invited back, but the girls still ask about "El Cheapo", my "friend".
LOL.
I have mongered in many Latin American countries: Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Mexico and my experience is that, without doubt, Dominican women are the laziest. Most try to give as little service as possible. Indeed I have had some good experiences from a few but overall they appear to have no intention to please but just to get paid as quickly as possible and vamos. I suspect some mongers are not aware of the level of service because they monger only in the DR and are happy its so much cheaper than the US. Even in English speaking countries like Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, Jamaica and St. Lucia the girls, though not as good looking, provide much better service than DR girls. When I first started hobbying in Venezuela and Colombia decades ago I knew absolutely no Spanish and had a great time. My advise to guys who do only DR is to try to save a little more money and after covid 19 subsides travel further to discover what a really good time is all about.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475800]I have mongered in many Latin American countries: Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Mexico and my experience is that, without doubt, Dominican women are the laziest. Most try to give as little service as possible. Indeed I have had some good experiences from a few but overall they appear to have no intention to please but just to get paid as quickly as possible and vamos. .[/QUOTE]No offense to DR lovers but you are 1000% right my friend.
I am not sure what and who you guys are dealing with but I am enjoying the hell out of the DR women. I manage to get excellent service from a broad range of ladies. I have non pros to hard core girls. However over time I have gotten better at vetting the chicas I deal with. Looking for GFE in Sosua is a bit nieve. Most guys who go to Sosua are doing numbers. They want as many as they can get as fast as possible. It takes repore to get GFE when the norm is one and done. I have been going to the DR 10 years Sosua 8. I can afford to go anywhere in the world but I am totally satisfied with what the DR provides and the cost is so reasonable. The weekend warriors are a different breed of mongers. They are younger and more extraverted. The girls expectations have adjusted to the new mongers. Old days guys would hook up and spend several days with same chica. This practiice is dead now. The girls are doing numbers too unless you flip the scrrip GFE is dead. I need a certain amount of GFE at my age to enjoy sex. With just a few adjustments I am getting what I need. The sex has been awesome some of the best in my 60 plus years. The women I am dealing with are beautiful and give themselves to you when theey trust you.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2475847]No offense to DR lovers but you are 1000% right my friend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475800]I have mongered in many Latin American countries: Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Mexico and my experience is that, without doubt, Dominican women are the laziest. Most try to give as little service as possible. [/QUOTE]Not very germane on the DR board, but I can tell you that I have had great experience in NZ / Aus or Germany or Indonesia for that matter but they were all P4P. In contrast, in the DR, I can literally try out my luck with almost anyone I come across, not necessarily restricted to a sq mile in Sosua.
In any case, given your extensive experience in Latin America, I would have to wonder if you found even the chongos better than DR? Let's say you did but if I found other places to be way superior, I would keep it to myself so that the rest do not go ruin my Shangri la.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475800]I have mongered in many Latin American countries: Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Mexico and my experience is that, without doubt, Dominican women are the laziest. Most try to give as little service as possible. Indeed I have had some good experiences from a few but overall they appear to have no intention to please but just to get paid as quickly as possible and vamos. I suspect some mongers are not aware of the level of service because they monger only in the DR and are happy its so much cheaper than the US. Even in English speaking countries like Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, Jamaica and St. Lucia the girls, though not as good looking, provide much better service than DR girls. When I first started hobbying in Venezuela and Colombia decades ago I knew absolutely no Spanish and had a great time. My advise to guys who do only DR is to try to save a little more money and after covid 19 subsides travel further to discover what a really good time is all about.[/QUOTE]Well said. I have only visited the DR once for about 12 days but this was like 4 years ago. Glad I went and experienced it but the Sue was / is so full of hard core putas but I did find one that was sweet and loving and fun but if it was not for her perhaps my feelings about my visit would have been much different. Just saying.
I did notice too the amount of black brothers who drop in and party like a rock star for a week then another swarm of brothers come in, never ending, I was certainly (as a white guy) a minority but nonetheless they brothers treated me with respect and were really cool guys to hang around with. Damn these brothers would find the biggest ass woman they could find, I mean gigantic ass women which left the slender black sisters for this blond haired white boy, hehehehe.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2475880]Old days guys would hook up and spend several days with same chica. This practiice is dead now. The girls are doing numbers too unless you flip the scrrip GFE is dead. I need a certain amount of GFE at my age to enjoy sex. With just a few adjustments I am getting what I need. The sex has been awesome some of the best in my 60 plus years. The women I am dealing with are beautiful and give themselves to you when theey trust you.[/QUOTE]I love the Dominican culture. I love Dominican women, but not the fat ass droopy tits women I see on the streets and in the clubs. Saggy assed Asians in go go bars don't do it for me either. If it's hard core pros you want, might as well stay home.
I've travelled a lot and in most countries there as a cultural red line between prostitutes and regular women. But here in the DR, the line seamlessly blends together. DR has a continuous flow of beautiful fresh newbie amateurs around, and you can pick them good p in stores, buses, just about anywhere, no big deal.
The GFE experience is alive and well for those who care to spend a little time. You'll see guys like me with a with a beautiful companion out for dinner, on the beaches, and around the pool, everywhere on the island. You can even get a WE (wife experience) for a week.
And DR women are not lazy, treat them right, and they'll travel a whole day to see you, and cook, clean and wash your stuff, give you a manicure and pedicure, fuck you silly, and tidy up your place before they leave. Domesticated they are, from an early age. I still get a bang out of seeing a possible Miss Universe, with bucket and a mop, and food on the stove!
What I don't get are guys who come to places they don't like, to fuck women they don't like, and ***** about it here. Instead of wasting time and hard earned money why not just move on and be happy in all those other places that are mentioned. You won't be missed!
Maybe they just can't stand the thought that there are others who don't share their miserable experiences.
LOL.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2475932]............ Let's say you did but if I found other places to be way superior, I would keep it to myself so that the rest do not go ruin my Shangri la.[/QUOTE]This was posted yesterday by the Tall Man in the Medellin thread, enjoy:
"Random thoughts. Medellin has just too much pussy!
In over 20 plus years of mongering in many parts of the world not to be overshadowed by my 10 plus years here in Colombia I never thought I would come to say this but well there is so much good and great pussy available here in Medellin with so many avenues to find new pussy, yes dare I say it is so easy and inexpensive that I am feeling like a bit overwhelmed by it all, and this is in strict quarantine, that leaves me with a sense of just wanting to pull away and take a break, well I take a break for a day or two then just need to get out and get something new and fresh.
Just in this past week, 7 days, and not even trying rather trying to just lay low and relax on the pussy stuff, well in 7 days have had 3 different chicas and this was an off-week, 2 were Vennies (an 18 and 19 yo) and one a paisa at 23 yo, all 3 were off the charts sex in terms of passion and fun that leaves me breathless, and this is not even trying rather just going with the flow.
I have friends who stay under the radar and post little on these boards and these guys are getting 2 chicas a day, every day, every week, every month, just incredible this "silent majority" is having a life like a rock star and again they don't have any need to get on a soap box and brag about, just really cool.
Some of you post great photos of your cuties and yes they are cute and sexy and must say that just in the past month I regularly see a handful of this same kind of quality and I just plow away. Gawd I am a lucky man.
Happy Sunday to all!
The Tall Man. ".
[QUOTE=Turgid;2476085]This was posted yesterday by the Tall Man in the Medellin thread, enjoy:
"Random thoughts. Medellin has just too much pussy![/QUOTE]Apparently, the man has found his Shangri la. Good for him!
While I say that I envy your forays into a whole bunch of places where I would never have the fortune to set foot, I must say, like another poster here (Oakie) stated, the line between who is approachable and who is not, is blurry in the DR. Perhaps there are other places too but it has been a long time in the DR that I do the "Hello, how much" routine.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2475946] I still get a bang out of seeing a possible Miss Universe, with bucket and a mop, and food on the stove![/QUOTE]You lucky bastard! LOL. I cannot say I have ever had a close encounter with a miss universe, let alone Miss my hometown. Kudos!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2476131]You lucky bastard! LOL. I cannot say I have ever had a close encounter with a miss universe, let alone Miss my hometown. Kudos![/QUOTE]LOL I'm serious.
My regular of 4 years has two very close friends, model types they are, and we are like family, we share everything. Plus related young chicas she works with from time to time. Out of respect, I don't post pictures of them here, but when we started hanging together, I couldn't put the damn camera down. At my age, as Tall Man says below, I was "overwhelmed".
Thing is I'm on a budget here, amd am not paying near the kind of money some of the mongers pay to the skanks and thieves they complain about, no meter running, no "negotiating" for a "menu item", it's just a propina which doesn't insult them, when I have it.
(I got into a debate with Mr GoGo some time ago, and I did send him a couple of photos by PM, so he knows I'm not dreaming).
I don't care for folks who tar all countries or people with the same brush, whites, blacks or Dominicans. Or insist if you're happy in a situation, it must be because you just don't know any better, LOL.
Life is like a mirror, you you usually get back what you put out!
Your mileage does Vary!
Whats up guys I am new here just signed up. Planning planning on going to Sosua and Santo Domingo Sept 3rd to 10th. Wondering if any fellow mongers are in town.
How is it, what are the chances this curfew gets lifted?
P.S. I'm here to learn. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2476259] am not paying near the kind of money some of the mongers pay to the skanks and thieves they complain about, no meter running, no "negotiating" for a "menu item", it's just a propina which doesn't insult them, when I have it.
Life is like a mirror, you you usually get back what you put out![/QUOTE]I know exactly what you mean in terms of hours, how many times, how much of tips and all that people "negotiate" yet get into periodic fights. Then there are are some who get it free, even when the women there (and men) struggle to make ends meet, more so now.
Could not agree more with your last line.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2476119]Apparently, the man has found his Shangri la. Good for him!
While I say that I envy your forays into a whole bunch of places where I would never have the fortune to set foot, I must say, like another poster here (Oakie) stated, the line between who is approachable and who is not, is blurry in the DR. Perhaps there are other places too but it has been a long time in the DR that I do the "Hello, how much" routine.[/QUOTE]The line is blurry indeed. I met a chica through another chica who lives in the states now. The chica in the states is a nice girl but she's the hardest of the hardcores, You fuck her for ten minutes and she's demanding that you come. Anyway she told me to call her once I got to SD. I did she called back later and introduced me to a girl who was coming to SD to see her family. She didn't ask for a dime. I had to insist that she take bus fare back to her town. The stateside chica told me "Why did her treat that girl so bad?" I said "how did I treat her bad?" "You gave her nothing" I said "She didn't ask for anything" Long story short I ended up sending her 3 k Pesos. I have no idea if it was a set up but I learned that Non Pros don't like to talk about sex and basically if you take them anywhere other than Bon they're DTF.
I met a girl from Tinder and she had a big ass purse without a strap in the cab she said "I'll spend the night for 3 k" (this was 9 am in the morning) wonderful African level GFE (same level from the country "freebie" that wasn't) So I asked her "did you know that you were going to fuck me today?" She said "yes because you said we'd have dinner at your place (It was supposed to be a coffee date).
I said "what if I met you at your job and you gave me your what's app" She said Yes basically she said if a girl gives an american her number she knows what he wants and he knows what she wants.
Another Tinder girl said she did hair for her old Math Professor, she said the Math Professor was trying to find an american to help out her dumb ass sister (this is how the Tinder girl put it).
I say all that to say these non pros on Tinder Badoo and Dominican Cupid aren't full blown working girls they're just girls who put out for a nice dinner and "taxi money" in the morning. They don't even mention money but 2 k for someone not going far and maybe 3 k for extras and someone from say San Chistobal is generally accepted.
Trip.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2476259]LOL I'm serious.
My regular of 4 years has two very close friends, model types they are, and we are like family, we share everything. Plus related young chicas she works with from time to time. Out of respect, I don't post pictures of them here, but when we started hanging together, I couldn't put the damn camera down. At my age, as Tall Man says below, I was "overwhelmed".
Thing is I'm on a budget here, amd am not paying near the kind of money some of the mongers pay to the skanks and thieves they complain about, no meter running, no "negotiating" for a "menu item", it's just a propina which doesn't insult them, when I have it.
(I got into a debate with Mr GoGo some time ago, and I did send him a couple of photos by PM, so he knows I'm not dreaming).
I don't care for folks who tar all countries or people with the same brush, whites, blacks or Dominicans. Or insist if you're happy in a situation, it must be because you just don't know any better, LOL.
Life is like a mirror, you you usually get back what you put out!
Your mileage does Vary![/QUOTE]I thought I was hardcore but even I don't try to fuck friend groups. I'm a newbie but could you suggest that you run through her friends? Or do they propose it to you? I'm an extra heavy monger so They might not want their friends to know what they do with me. In Fact one girl actually told me NOT to tell her friend in sosua about certain "extras" she did with me.
I wanted to go just to see if I could fuck her friend and convince to do the same extras or more.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2476576]I thought I was hardcore but even I don't try to fuck friend groups. I'm a newbie but could you suggest that you run through her friends? Or do they propose it to you? I'm an extra heavy monger so They might not want their friends to know what they do with me. In Fact one girl actually told me NOT to tell her friend in sosua about certain "extras" she did with me.
I wanted to go just to see if I could fuck her friend and convince to do the same extras or more.
Trip.[/QUOTE]To answer your questions properly a little backgound context is needed.
A lot of visitors to the DR find the culture weird, after living all their lives in countries where sex is seen as some kind of vice, and separated from normal human behaviour by taboos, and legal restrictions. I was a decent looking guy, with a huge appetite for (straight) sex, but I had to dedicate an unreasonable amount of time, money and hard work to get good looking women to satisfy me. GFs, strippers, MPs, escorts, incalls, SWs before they banned them, and left only the sad crack addicts. Prostitution was illegal and enforced so there was no protection from scams, or that red cherry flashing on the cop car behind you. LOL.
I had travelled and gotten laid all through the USA And Mexico, most of the Caribbean Islands, and most countries in Europe after the wall came down, so I wasn't completely naive. But you still had to get off the reservation, and navigate the seedy red light zones.
Then I found the DR (thanks to Mr GoGo) Like coming out of jail! Sex was as common as eating, drinking or smoking. Nobody waving their fingers at you for being with a hooker. A welcoming chica hotel on every corner. The tourist cops giving you a smile and a thumbs up. Chicas wanting you to meet their families, LOL. As TM said, earlier, I was overwhelmed.
I used to call it the "fucked up DR morality", which sees hookers in church with their families, (my regular wouldn't miss a Sunday Service with her kid) and families encouraging their offspring and minding the babies while they go out to "work". No "attitude" from the male population, unlike some parts of the Caribbean.
I've had only two regulars here, one for 7 and one for 4 years. The first one was always jealous of my time (or my money) spent away, so I had to monger on the side. This one is completely open and bi. She doesn't mind sharing, she knows, and our friends know it's only recreational sex, not "love". She has her life, and her own place in PP with her kid, so I get her down for 2 or 3 days every week, She goes home Sunday morning, and I get a lazy TV sports day, and time during the week to meet up with friends over a beer. (took a little training to get that straight!) but I generally don't fuck around on her with strangers. No need to.
So I've just stopped being judgmental and go with the flow and we are all happy! We share drink and food with our chica friends, why not a little sex too, if it happens?
The past 11 years have been the healthiest, happiest, least stressful time in my entire life. How do you put a price on that?
But I'm often asked why live in Sosua? The answer is I got everything here, beaches, restaurants, no driving necessary, pussy, and 11 years of connections to locals and most businesses, where I don't have to carry money. I can "pay you later" in most of the places I frequent, a far cry from my home town, where they get a mite angsty about that!
I'm presently back in my PC fucked up dysfunctional country, on family business, but already my stomach is tense and is acting up, and I got Big Brother Wolf Blitzer on a giant TV staring at me and telling me the whole world is coming to an end!
I need to get back, quick.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475800]I have mongered in many Latin American countries: Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Mexico and my experience is that, without doubt, Dominican women are the laziest. Most try to give as little service as possible. Indeed I have had some good experiences from a few but overall they appear to have no intention to please but just to get paid as quickly as possible and vamos. I suspect some mongers are not aware of the level of service because they monger only in the DR and are happy its so much cheaper than the US. Even in English speaking countries like Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, Jamaica and St. Lucia the girls, though not as good looking, provide much better service than DR girls. When I first started hobbying in Venezuela and Colombia decades ago I knew absolutely no Spanish and had a great time. My advise to guys who do only DR is to try to save a little more money and after covid 19 subsides travel further to discover what a really good time is all about.[/QUOTE]Did it ever occur to you that there's a large contingent of German, Scandinavian, and Dutch mongers visiting Sosua every year? Living here too.
Now, with access to all that Euro, FKK, Scandinavian and Eastern European pussy on their doorstep, they choose Sosua? Lazy hookers?
It's not because it's cheap, from Europe it is expensive, and often involves a 2 day travel time with layovers.
What do YOU think is going on here?
Too bad they don't speak English and post everyday on this board, so we could find out!
LOL.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2476572] She didn't ask for a dime. I had to insist that she take bus fare back to her town. The stateside chica told me "Why did her treat that girl so bad?" I said "how did I treat her bad?" "You gave her nothing" I said "She didn't ask for anything" Long story short I ended up sending her 3 k Pesos. I have no idea if it was a set up but I learned that Non Pros don't like to talk about sex and basically if you take them anywhere other than Bon they're DTF.
I met a girl from Tinder and she had a big ass purse without a strap in the cab she said "I'll spend the night for 3 k" (this was 9 am in the morning) wonderful African level GFE (same level from the country "freebie" that wasn't) So I asked her "did you know that you were going to fuck me today?" She said "yes because you said we'd have dinner at your place
I said "what if I met you at your job and you gave me your what's app" She said Yes basically she said if a girl gives an american her number she knows what he wants and he knows what she wants.
Another Tinder girl said she did hair for her old Math Professor, she said the Math Professor was trying to find an american to help out her dumb ass sister
I say all that to say these non pros on Tinder Badoo and Dominican Cupid aren't full blown working girls they're just girls who put out for a nice dinner and "taxi money" in the morning. They don't even mention money but 2 k for someone not going far and maybe 3 k for extras and someone from say San Chistobal is generally accepted.
Trip.[/QUOTE]Come on Trip I thought you knew that! My brother Africa has spoiled you. A DR prostitute introduced you to her friend for only 1 reason. No one is fucking foreigners for free. Even if they don't ask for money they all need money. (A close mouth don't get fed is there philosophy) From the girl working in the street to the professor working at a university. I'm not telling you nothing you should already know.
Listen newbies out there reading this. When you are in the DR; almost every chica you come across wants some extra cash. If they come to your room they already know the deal. They just don’t know the price. There is a rare occasion you may find a Chica too Timid to say it up front or too shy to talk numbers but she is expecting.
Most Dominican Woman are nationalist. They stick with their on kind. They are loyal to their country men and they plan on marrying a Dominican man As a life partner. They keep Dominican boyfriends even if they are broke. They stay loyal to their men overall but they will give some pussy to a foreign in exchange for money.
Tinder is a hook up place for chica to meet Gringos. The only thing a foreigner can do is give up some of their American Dineros for the time that he's dealing with her on the side. You can get the average chica for about 1500 to 2500 pesos. I had three jump on the bus and come to my place. We agreed on 1500 pesos for anyone that ends up in the bed room before they got on the bus.
The illusion of getting pussy for free always bites you in the ass in the end. In my experience, most Chicas love weak men That don't know how to negotiate and or don't know the current market value. They will take advantage of this if they can. They respect domineering men who lay down the rules before they get in his bed. Their culture demands that men be dominant.
I'm glad the situation didn't get out of hand. I know you would have controlled it but not establishing the price before you except any service is a recipe for disaster in the DR. That goes for any form of service from P4 P, taxi service, massage, Haircuts, ordering food etc.
I don't think no Chica is willing to get her back blown out from a gringo (they may never meet again) For dinner and taxis money. Not unless the taxi money was 2000 pesos or more.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2476576]I thought I was hardcore but even I don't try to fuck friend groups. I'm a newbie but could you suggest that you run through her friends? Or do they propose it to you? I'm an extra heavy monger so They might not want their friends to know what they do with me. In Fact one girl actually told me NOT to tell her friend in sosua about certain "extras" she did with me.
I wanted to go just to see if I could fuck her friend and convince to do the same extras or more.
Trip.[/QUOTE]Dude in the Sue. There is no loyalty that surpasses business. I had a friend who went with me to the Sue. He had his favorite and I had her sister. They both became our favorites. One trip after he got in an argument with his girl he brought back her sister to the room. Only thing that made it strange we were roommates and I had just talk to her telling her I will see her later. I pretend like I was hurt. She kept explaining to me that it was just business and she doesn't like him. In the bedroom she did him dirty and wouldn't give him good service. She charged him 3500 compared to my 2000 all night.
She told her sister. Her sister was cool with it. I told her sister now we must have a session to make things even. Her sister was like hell yes, but I was only playing. It's all about business and if you can give your friends the business that you had it's all good. It's all expected. I know family members that will try to keep the gringo in the family for as long as they can. They will rotate him A round with sisters and cousins depending on who's available. Welcome to the DR!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2476653] There is no loyalty that surpasses business. [/QUOTE]I will make a slight alteration. "there is no loyalty that surpasses HUNGER". People we deal with are at the fringes of an economy that has no safety net and the only resource a woman has (that too, a young woman as they get old really fast) is her body. It is really important that we respect the contract. Get something, give something!
As Oakie mentioned and he being an European knows that you can get pussy in Europe too, but they are all P4 P in "cordoned off" places. You can find East Europeans and South Americans and Dominicans. I remember one of my rendezvous in London in a groupie, where the women were all from South America. Yet, there are hordes of Europeans, I met plenty of Italians, French and Spaniards as well, and these days, for good measures, Russians, living in Sosua. My guess is that they too, like me, enjoy the fact that a random encounter can be a sexually fulfilling fantasy, in the DR, unlike elsewhere that I have been to.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2476572]I say all that to say these non pros on Tinder Badoo and Dominican Cupid aren't full blown working girls they're just girls who put out for a nice dinner and "taxi money" in the morning. Trip.[/QUOTE]There are no "non-pros". It is all a continuum depending on who you find and her social / economic status. Those that we meet typically are easy. Some money and that's that and then there are some, who are looking for perhaps a marriage and other stuff that fables are made of.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2476645]Did it ever occur to you that there's a large contingent of German, Scandinavian, and Dutch mongers visiting Sosua every year? Living here too.
Now, with access to all that Euro, FKK, Scandinavian and Eastern European pussy on their doorstep, they choose Sosua? Lazy hookers?
It's not because it's cheap, from Europe it is expensive, and often involves a 2 day travel time with layovers.
What do YOU think is going on here?
Too bad they don't speak English and post everyday on this board, so we could find out!
LOL.[/QUOTE]Those European men like me love the melanated women. Also Sosua has a decent beach. The best sex I've had in Sosua was with Haitian women. I will certainly return to Sosua again if I am convinced that there are many Haitian babes around. Luv the Haitians and the beach.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2476642]To answer your questions properly a little backgound context is needed.
A lot of visitors to the DR find the culture weird, after living all their lives in countries where sex is seen as some kind of vice, and separated from normal human behaviour by taboos, and legal restrictions. I was a decent looking guy, with a huge appetite for (straight) sex, but I had to dedicate an unreasonable amount of time, money and hard work to get good looking women to satisfy me. GFs, strippers, MPs, escorts, incalls, SWs before they banned them, and left only the sad crack addicts. Prostitution was illegal and enforced so there was no protection from scams, or that red cherry flashing on the cop car behind you. LOL.
I had travelled and gotten laid all through the USA And Mexico, most of the Caribbean Islands, and most countries in Europe after the wall came down, so I wasn't completely naive. But you still had to get off the reservation, and navigate the seedy red light zones.
Then I found the DR (thanks to Mr GoGo) Like coming out of jail! Sex was as common as eating, drinking or smoking. Nobody waving their fingers at you for being with a hooker. A welcoming chica hotel on every corner. The tourist cops giving you a smile and a thumbs up. Chicas wanting you to meet their families, LOL. As TM said, earlier, I was overwhelmed.
I used to call it the "fucked up DR morality", which sees hookers in church with their families, (my regular wouldn't miss a Sunday Service with her kid) and families encouraging their offspring and minding the babies while they go out to "work". No "attitude" from the male population, unlike some parts of the Caribbean.
I've had only two regulars here, one for 7 and one for 4 years. The first one was always jealous of my time (or my money) spent away, so I had to monger on the side. This one is completely open and bi. She doesn't mind sharing, she knows, and our friends know it's only recreational sex, not "love". She has her life, and her own place in PP with her kid, so I get her down for 2 or 3 days every week, She goes home Sunday morning, and I get a lazy TV sports day, and time during the week to meet up with friends over a beer. (took a little training to get that straight!) but I generally don't fuck around on her with strangers. No need to.
So I've just stopped being judgmental and go with the flow and we are all happy! We share drink and food with our chica friends, why not a little sex too, if it happens?
The past 11 years have been the healthiest, happiest, least stressful time in my entire life. How do you put a price on that?
But I'm often asked why live in Sosua? The answer is I got everything here, beaches, restaurants, no driving necessary, pussy, and 11 years of connections to locals and most businesses, where I don't have to carry money. I can "pay you later" in most of the places I frequent, a far cry from my home town, where they get a mite angsty about that!
I'm presently back in my PC fucked up dysfunctional country, on family business, but already my stomach is tense and is acting up, and I got Big Brother Wolf Blitzer on a giant TV staring at me and telling me the whole world is coming to an end!
I need to get back, quick.[/QUOTE]I'm sorta like you, I try to get extras out of every Chicas I fuck but I also deal with keepers for years. The DR is just opening me up to what is possible.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2476648]Come on Trip I thought you knew that! My brother Africa has spoiled you. A DR prostitute introduced you to her friend for only 1 reason. No one is fucking foreigners for free. Even if they don't ask for money they all need money. (A close mouth don't get fed is there philosophy) From the girl working in the street to the professor working at a university. I'm not telling you nothing you should already know.
Listen newbies out there reading this. When you are in the DR; almost every chica you come across wants some extra cash. If they come to your room they already know the deal. They just dont know the price. There is a rare occasion you may find a Chica too Timid to say it up front or too shy to talk numbers but she is expecting.
Most Dominican Woman are nationalist. They stick with their on kind. They are loyal to their country men and they plan on marrying a Dominican man As a life partner. They keep Dominican boyfriends even if they are broke. They stay loyal to their men overall but they will give some pussy to a foreign in exchange for money.
Tinder is a hook up place for chica to meet Gringos. The only thing a foreigner can do is give up some of their American Dineros for the time that he's dealing with her on the side. You can get the average chica for about 1500 to 2500 pesos. I had three jump on the bus and come to my place. We agreed on 1500 pesos for anyone that ends up in the bed room before they got on the bus.
The illusion of getting pussy for free always bites you in the ass in the end. In my experience, most Chicas love weak men That don't know how to negotiate and or don't know the current market value. They will take advantage of this if they can. They respect domineering men who lay down the rules before they get in his bed. Their culture demands that men be dominant.
I'm glad the situation didn't get out of hand. I know you would have controlled it but not establishing the price before you except any service is a recipe for disaster in the DR. That goes for any form of service from P4 P, taxi service, massage, Haircuts, ordering food etc.
I don't think no Chica is willing to get her back blown out from a gringo (they may never meet again) For dinner and taxis money. Not unless the taxi money was 2000 pesos or more.[/QUOTE]Yeah it was a newbie mistake. I don't know why but I assume the nice girl meant maybe not even gucking.
The thing about Tinder was it taught me to not be too forward. One one hand saying how much? Or come over right now is too forward but a decent meal colors by dinner and extras and breakfast in the morning along with light house keeping is worth 2 K for a local and maybe 4 k for an import. I'm learning.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2476686]There are no "non-pros". It is all a continuum depending on who you find and her social / economic status. Those that we meet typically are easy. Some money and that's that and then there are some, who are looking for perhaps a marriage and other stuff that fables are made of.[/QUOTE]Point taken. I guess it's better to say hardcores vs user friendly models. There's the ST only and the girls that are TLN friendly and you don't have have negotiated for every extra. Either she does it or she doesn't. None of the I'll do it for 2/100 ysd.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2476759]Those European men like me love the melanated women. Also Sosua has a decent beach. The best sex I've had in Sosua was with Haitian women. I will certainly return to Sosua again if I am convinced that there are many Haitian babes around. Luv the Haitians and the beach.[/QUOTE]Curious you say that. Haitian women. I found many Quebecois in Sosua are very fond of the Haitians (some could actually speak some French), the Germans and Britishers are fond of Haitians too. Personally, I am value neutral if the chemistry is right, though I have found the Haitians to have very toned body, essentially because of the sheer amount of physical labor they do including walking. Dominicans are more chunky.
Sosua has a very small footprint, a nice beach and great restaurants abound. If you also keep a stable like some do, then you have as we call it, a "home run".
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2476812]Point taken. I guess it's better to say hardcores vs user friendly models. There's the ST only and the girls that are TLN friendly and you don't have have negotiated for every extra. Either she does it or she doesn't. None of the I'll do it for 2/100 ysd.[/QUOTE]There's all kinds of chicas here, as there are all kinds of us mongers. Finding the right fit isn't always easy, but it should be fun.
We have mongers complaining about chicas who hang on, keep knocking on their door, so they have to make excuses and sneak out, even have to lie, to get away for some other pussy. (now that's a REAL girl friend experience, LOL. Maybe those chicas have heard the complaints about "no GFE" in Sosua?
Then there are mongers who complain she's dressed and out the door as soon as the deed is done! Maybe she's seen the monger creed motto often cited on this board, "We don't pay them to fuck, we pay them to leave"!
Kinda hard for a Sosua chica to get it exactly right. LOL. You can't please everybody.
The thing about a regular, you can train them, given enough time. My regular is a 7 and she's trained, (She probably thinks she's trained me) but it wasn't easy at first. But her 9 and 10's girlfriends, I nickname Mariposa. La Tigre and Gatamonte, free spirits who won't be tamed by any man. And enough have tried, LOL.
There are lots of ways to skin the cat down here, as long as you keep it fun, and drama free. Be consistent, and above all, learn to say NO and mean it! They'll almost all come crawling back.
They might not like it, but they'll respect it. It's your money so you should have your steak cooked the way you like it!
I knew nothing about the chicas when I first came here, but I had the time, and I was willing to learn.
You'll have no trouble getting what you want, because, as you said a couple times, you are are willing to "learn". The magic word!
I look forward to your reports, thanks for posting! We get to share your trip, and we're all pulling for ya!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2476085]This was posted yesterday by the Tall Man in the Medellin thread, enjoy:
"Random thoughts. Medellin has just too much pussy!
In over 20 plus years of mongering in many parts of the world not to be overshadowed by my 10 plus years here in Colombia I never thought I would come to say this but well there is so much good and great pussy available here in Medellin with so many avenues to find new pussy, yes dare I say it is so easy and inexpensive that I am feeling like a bit overwhelmed by it all, and this is in strict quarantine, that leaves me with a sense of just wanting to pull away and take a break, well I take a break for a day or two then just need to get out and get something new and fresh.
Just in this past week, 7 days, and not even trying rather trying to just lay low and relax on the pussy stuff, well in 7 days have had 3 different chicas and this was an off-week, 2 were Vennies (an 18 and 19 yo) and one a paisa at 23 yo, all 3 were off the charts sex in terms of passion and fun that leaves me breathless, and this is not even trying rather just going with the flow.
I have friends who stay under the radar and post little on these boards and these guys are getting 2 chicas a day, every day, every week, every month, just incredible this "silent majority" is having a life like a rock star and again they don't have any need to get on a soap box and brag about, just really cool.
Some of you post great photos of your cuties and yes they are cute and sexy and must say that just in the past month I regularly see a handful of this same kind of quality and I just plow away. Gawd I am a lucky man.
Happy Sunday to all!
The Tall Man. ".[/QUOTE]Damn you. LOL. Wish I could get there. Maybe November 🤞🏻
Just got through beefing with one of m, best performs. She wants 150 us for all night.
Now she is an awesome fuck. Looks like Gabriel Union fucks like Vanessa Del Rio. I told to pound sand but I really wanted that ass.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2477130]Just got through beefing with one of m, best performs. She wants 150 us for all night.
Now she is an awesome fuck. Looks like Gabriel Union fucks like Vanessa Del Rio. I told to pound sand but I really wanted that ass.[/QUOTE]8700 peso for 1 night! Is that all she wants. Remind me to stay away from your regulars.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2477130]Just got through beefing with one of m, best performs. She wants 150 us for all night.[/QUOTE]LOL. So how much did she want without the almighty rapport that you so much talk about, and you taking her to the movies, and dinner, and bringing her perfume, lingerie, and a vibrator? I am willing to take a stab and say it would have been less. Sounds like she is taking your little kindness and trying to make it go a long way for herself. You my dog OldKool, you my dog.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2472100]Most guys American and Dominican do not take time to make the chicas feel appreciated. A little kindness goes a long way.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for being a fan. Yes all of those things could have been posible but at the end of the day I set my terms. If we can not aggree to a price then it is a no go. In all honesty she is bit mental so that come with the rellationship. She thinks she is the greatest of all time. She is a uique talent do not get it twisted that I have thoroughly enjoyed. Never the less it is next girl up. Nothing is a 100 % Mr E but I am doing very well so far.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2477188]LOL. So how much did she want without the almighty rapport that you so much talk about, and you taking her to the movies, and dinner, and bringing her perfume, lingerie, and a vibrator? I am willing to take a stab and say it would have been less. Sounds like she is taking your little kindness and trying to make it go a long way for herself. You my dog OldKool, you my dog.[/QUOTE]
She was never on the team. I have been with her twice an enjoyed the time. She has always been all business. She got off the streets for about a year after hooking with an American who she thought was going to marry her. Since returning she is much harder and all business. I think she does not want to let her guard down or catch feelings. It Happens. She won't go to dinner or any thing extra. Her ex really scared her.
I have a tight budget and I control it. I would have done 5 k or 6 k all evening and over night. She is worth it. However I choose what I will pay.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2477163]8700 peso for 1 night! Is that all she wants. Remind me to stay away from your regulars.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2477130]Just got through beefing with one of m, best performs. She wants 150 us for all night.
Now she is an awesome fuck. Looks like Gabriel Union fucks like Vanessa Del Rio. I told to pound sand but I really wanted that ass.[/QUOTE]150 US? Prices seem to be getting out of control. Especially considering its a pandemic. In December I was still paying 2500 pesos! LOL! Oh well.
I was negotiating for all night. All night is 3500 to 4500. I would have paid a premium for her.
She is that good. Her attitude needs some work.
She thinks she is the shit Not a big deal I don't have her in compliance. A challenge she wanted 70 for short term. She is in her mid 30s which ancient in DR. So think her days are numbered.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2477212]150 US? Prices seem to be getting out of control. Especially considering its a pandemic. In December I was still paying 2500 pesos! LOL! Oh well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2477253]I was negotiating for all night. All night is 3500 to 4500. I would have paid a premium for her.
She is that good. Her attitude needs some work.
She thinks she is the shit Not a big deal I don't have her in compliance. A challenge she wanted 70 for short term. She is in her mid 30s which ancient in DR. So think her days are numbered.[/QUOTE]Damn if 3500 to 4500 is all night, she's over 30, attitude need some work, she thinks she is the shit, all about business and you still are still entertaining the idea of her over 8700 request. For you to have the skills and patience to find fun in that! I salute you Okski!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2477013]There's all kinds of chicas here, as there are all kinds of us mongers. Finding the right fit isn't always easy, but it should be fun.
We have mongers complaining about chicas who hang on, keep knocking on their door, so they have to make excuses and sneak out, even have to lie, to get away for some other pussy. (now that's a REAL girl friend experience, LOL. Maybe those chicas have heard the complaints about "no GFE" in Sosua?
Then there are mongers who complain she's dressed and out the door as soon as the deed is done! Maybe she's seen the monger creed motto often cited on this board, "We don't pay them to fuck, we pay them to leave"!
Kinda hard for a Sosua chica to get it exactly right. LOL. You can't please everybody.
The thing about a regular, you can train them, given enough time. My regular is a 7 and she's trained, (She probably thinks she's trained me) but it wasn't easy at first. But her 9 and 10's girlfriends, I nickname Mariposa. La Tigre and Gatamonte, free spirits who won't be tamed by any man. And enough have tried, LOL.
There are lots of ways to skin the cat down here, as long as you keep it fun, and drama free. Be consistent, and above all, learn to say NO and mean it! They'll almost all come crawling back.
They might not like it, but they'll respect it. It's your money so you should have your steak cooked the way you like it!
I knew nothing about the chicas when I first came here, but I had the time, and I was willing to learn.
You'll have no trouble getting what you want, because, as you said a couple times, you are are willing to "learn". The magic word!
I look forward to your reports, thanks for posting! We get to share your trip, and we're all pulling for ya![/QUOTE]That's why I'm staying put at least until this COVID thing is over (I predict in spring 2021) to get my sea legs and learn the culture.
I've learned that imports are a good thing and may travel the country side just so I have some distance. I've gotten more "good morning " texts than I want. I even got scammed out of a free meal with no sex by a tinder chick. Since in want slow down to maybe one ST and and a couple of scheduled overnights a week importation might be best, no need for a million texts if she lives on the other side of the island.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2477338]That's why I'm staying put at least until this COVID thing is over (I predict in spring 2021) to get my sea legs and learn the culture.
I've learned that imports are a good thing and may travel the country side just so I have some distance. I've gotten more "good morning " texts than I want. I even got scammed out of a free meal with no sex by a tinder chick. Since in want slow down to maybe one ST and and a couple of scheduled overnights a week importation might be best, no need for a million texts if she lives on the other side of the island.
Trip.[/QUOTE]A couple things to look out for.
DR hookers consider any time spent with you is "working time". There's a lot of misunderstandings about that. Especially with ones you "import" from out of town.
A couple of chica complaints about mongers:
Some lonely losers enjoy the companionship of sharing a meal with a good looking woman, who'll listen to his bla bla bla, with rapt attention and and stroke his ego, even get introduced to his fellow mongers. But unless he pulls the trigger she is wasting valuable working time.
But one of the biggest "scams" a monger pulls is to arrange a meeting. She then may borrow some money from her friends, to get her hair, nails, clothes, and bus or taxi fare, in anticipation of a paid date. She shows up but he doesn't. He might have a hangover, have found another chica, or may even drive by to see if she's there, and change his mind. Now she's got to get home in greater debt, or go trolling for some business.
Then there was a monger complaint posted here recently, about "some guy" who arranged to meet the whole family of his new online date. But he arranged to meet them at a restaurant, where they all sat down, got menus, and he ordered food. He was shocked when they all ordered food, and expected him to pay. So he bolted, without paying, and left them with the tab! And he and his buddy who posted his sorry tale here, the ones who are complaining. LOL.
A simple, "we are just here for drinks" to the server, or better still meet them in a coffee shop, or a million other ways to avoid such a bad outcome. Which left the chica, her family, the restaurant staff, and the monger himself all pissed! Everybody got "scammed".
Wise to look at any business transaction from both sides!
A good hunter knows his prey.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2477013].......We have mongers complaining about chicas who hang on, keep knocking on their door, so they have to make excuses and sneak out, even have to lie, to get away for some other pussy..........
Then there are mongers who complain she's dressed and out the door as soon as the deed is done! ..........[/QUOTE]Dominican chicas are smart. If the guy is staying in an expensive suite and has trouble getting it / keeping it up and, therefore, can't pound too much then of course its mucho GFE and hanging around. Now if the guy is in a modest room and is a male nympho she's out the door before he discards the condom.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2477425]Dominican chicas are smart. If the guy is staying in an expensive suite and has trouble getting it / keeping it up and, therefore, can't pound too much then of course its mucho GFE and hanging around. Now if the guy is in a modest room and is a male nympho she's out the door before he discards the condom.[/QUOTE]Now all these times I thought girls appreciated my male nympho behavior pounding all night. Well, some girls do like to be pounded. Or it maybe I insist on it because I am the one giving money.
If they do not like and want to run they get half the agreed amount.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2477371]A couple things to look out for.
Then there was a monger complaint posted here recently, about "some guy" who arranged to meet the whole family of his new online date. But he arranged to meet them at a restaurant, where they all sat down, got menus, and he ordered food. He was shocked when they all ordered food, and expected him to pay. So he bolted, without paying, and left them with the tab! And he and his buddy who posted his sorry tale here, the ones who are complaining. LOL.[/QUOTE]Funniest thing I've read in a while, but avoidable like you said.
[QUOTE]Then there was a monger complaint posted here recently, about "some guy" who arranged to meet the whole family of his new online date. But he arranged to meet them at a restaurant, where they all sat down, got menus, and he ordered food. [b]He was shocked when they all ordered food, and expected him to pay. So he bolted, without paying, and left them with the tab! And he and his buddy who posted his sorry tale here, the ones who are complaining. LOL.[/b]
A simple, "we are just here for drinks" to the server, or better still meet them in a coffee shop, or a million other ways to avoid such a bad outcome. Which left the chica, her family, the restaurant staff, and the monger himself all pissed! Everybody got "scammed".
Wise to look at any business transaction from both sides![/QUOTE]The individual who wrote the above piece tried to retell a story / incident someone else reported. However he deliberately lied by omission and distortion about what was conveyed in the original story and what went down. Why he felt the need to tell people this story, and mislead them by embellishing and removing certain details is beyond me? If they will lie and mislead you about details in a story that all was able to see, take this into consideration. A person like this can't be trusted for anything they report, especially about themselves and their own jaunts. A person like this will say whatever, just to impress people. And the sad thing is, many people would not even know they have been bamboozled for years reading a series of embellished contributions. Entertaining yes, consistently honest contributions? Very doubtful.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2477371]
But one of the biggest "scams" a monger pulls is to arrange a meeting. She then may borrow some money from her friends, to get her hair, nails, clothes, and bus or taxi fare, in anticipation of a paid date. She shows up but he doesn't. He might have a hangover, have found another chica, or may even drive by to see if she's there, and change his mind. Now she's got to get home in greater debt, or go trolling for some business.
[/QUOTE]How is this a "scam"? The chica agrees to come out. Sorry about the taxi far, nails, clothes. Guys have to pay for taxi fair, and clothes too, nails less often. And girls don't have to do any of that, they can just come out, guys too.
How is it a scam if everything is known before hand? I mean if you agree to buy a coke for $500 dollars. It may be expensive but its hardly a scam. I guess if the monger makes the arrangement knowing theres a possibility he won't show up, it may be called a scam. But there's always a possibility that you might not be able to show up and the chica as well. Having a hangover and cancelling may be irresponsible, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it a scam.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2477371]
Then there was a monger complaint posted here recently, about "some guy" who arranged to meet the whole family of his new online date. But he arranged to meet them at a restaurant, where they all sat down, got menus, and he ordered food. He was shocked when they all ordered food, and expected him to pay. So he bolted, without paying, and left them with the tab! And he and his buddy who posted his sorry tale here, the ones who are complaining. LOL.
A simple, "we are just here for drinks" to the server, or better still meet them in a coffee shop, or a million other ways to avoid such a bad outcome. Which left the chica, her family, the restaurant staff, and the monger himself all pissed! Everybody got "scammed".
[/QUOTE]Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]How is this a "scam"? [/QUOTE]It is a scam because some posters always look at something as the guy's fault. Girl gets ready and goes and the guy is not there then the guy scammed her. Guy gets ready and goes and girl does not show then the guy should have known better and it could have been prevented. Women should never be held responsible for anything. Well at least not foreign women.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.[/QUOTE]See my explanation above. The one who wants the pussy is the one that bears the responsibility. And a lot of guys will go along with it because they do not want to miss out on the pussy. Happened to me once. Chick wanted me to meet her mom. We went to her mom's house. She called her taxi driver friend to come get us. Somehow the mom and the son comes with us to eat and I am expected to pay. It was a barbecue burger joint and the total ended up being like $30. After that we are all riding around and she mentioned her son needed school supplies. Well they wanted me to buy them. When we got to the store I got out of the car and went about my way. They said what about paying the taxi guy. I said fuck you, y'all figure it out. Did I mention the son was a grown ass man at the university studying architecture and had a son himself!
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.[/QUOTE]If you are in a new country, perhaps do not speak the language and common decency, which we learn, tells us that certain things are understood and need not be stated overtly. Now for the women, typical in these kind of stories, have no such qualms. Some (not all women though, remember) expect the foreigner to be able to afford a meal for her guests as well. If the host is new and untrained, he may not know all this and out of common courtesy may not say anything, until it balloons up.
It is good sense as Oakie stated, invite if you must, to just go to a bar, and order two beers, and you have limited your exposure. Speaking of beer however, if the woman is ordering a foreign beer (say Corona vs. A domestic Presidente), you will also know that you may have a problem.
BTW, discount quite a bit of what another poster stated in response to you. Some belittle women (foreign and domestic). In their mind, it is always the women who are at fault and then also claim that they get sex for free. The truth is somewhere in between, hopefully you would learn how to discriminate between trouble and sensible women.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]How is this a "scam"? The chica agrees to come out. Sorry about the taxi far, nails, clothes. Guys have to pay for taxi fair, and clothes too, nails less often. And girls don't have to do any of that, they can just come out, guys too.
How is it a scam if everything is known before hand? I mean if you agree to buy a coke for $500 dollars. It may be expensive but its hardly a scam. I guess if the monger makes the arrangement knowing theres a possibility he won't show up, it may be called a scam. But there's always a possibility that you might not be able to show up and the chica as well. Having a hangover and cancelling may be irresponsible, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it a scam.
Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.[/QUOTE]A couple of things:
This ain't high school dating.
I put scam in "quotes", because a scam is in the eye of the beholder.
You, like others, are injecting a false moral and economic equivalency between a monger with the financial wherewithal to travel the world to buy recreational sex from Haitians in a dirt poor third world country, and the women who sell their soul, and the only asset they have, their bodies, maybe even their sisters, daughters and mothers, to survive and feed their families.
If you don't understand the basic power inequality, you may be basing your opinion on western values, where pussy has the upper hand. Or at least has power. Remember, this family were Haitians, not the Huxtables from around the corner, LOL.
Getting a Haitian family to "just come out", to meet a foreigner in a restaurant involves far more logistics (the aforementioned clothing, grooming, travel expenses) than it does for a monger with a dedicated budget for recreational sex. If you understand these cultural differences, you can navigate them successfully.
I may not have included all the details the OP recited in this third hand hearsay tale from some anonymous "guy", but we all know how a monger or a chica story can be dramatized, if we only relate one side of the story, and have no way of knowing from either side, of what really went down.
That's why first hand experiences good, bad or ugly are relevant here, and third hand tales of woe from anonymous mongers, or chicas should be taken with a huge dollop of hot sauce.
Bottom line.
The monger who spends a little more for then the "going rate" for better pussy, is often derided and called out as a fool here, and is accused of being stupid, "spoiling the market" or not knowing any better.
But this anonymous "guy", who left a chica, her family, the owner of the restaurant, the server, and himself pissed off, and even had the police involved. Gets "kudos" from the OP for leaving them stranded, and calls them "barracudas".
IMHO, this is normal behavior down here, for a dirt poor Haitian family selling the only precious asset they have in the world, to a "rich" foreigner. LOL.
Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235] Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]I am glad you tried. I would not think of touching those I saw in mid July with a barge pole. The ones that go around nowadays are locals so they can afford to be around but that means that the quality is down and more hard cores.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Girls are asking 100 plus a night.[/QUOTE]Compared to the Chica that was asking you for over 8700 pesos all night sounds like you're saving money. Olski you never go into great detail about your trips. For you to tell us nothing went well and not elaborate is not fair. Fill in the gaps please!
Nice to hear Rumba is Getting some business. Ahnvee is charging 500 pesos? Its about time! The biggest after seven spot in the Su might as well get while the getting is good.
Ive been to the DR twice within the last two months. I have yet to make that trip to the Sue. I cannot see me giving it a weekend under current circumstances. I could only imagine the selection of hard-core locals currently seeking employment.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]A couple of things:
This ain't high school dating.
[/QUOTE]I don't know why you bring that up. Are you still in high school? Are you dating High schoolers?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]A couple of things:
I put scam in "quotes", because a scam is in the eye of the beholder.
[/QUOTE]True. And from my eyes and many others, I don't believe those situations to be scams.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
You, like others, are injecting a false moral and economic equivalency between a monger with the financial wherewithal to travel the world to buy recreational sex from Haitians in a dirt poor third world country, and the women who sell their soul, and the only asset they have, their bodies, maybe even their sisters, daughters and mothers, to survive and feed their families.
[/QUOTE]Am I injecting false morality or are you?
The phrasing of "Haitians in a dirt poor third world country, and the women who sell their soul, and the only asset they have, their bodies" to me means you're implying that using your body for sex is somehow degrading and a form of selling your soul? Maybe you shouldn't be on this board if you feel that way. I've stated here before, I don't judge people for selling their bodies, if my own daughter wanted to do it, I would have no problem with it. Given that its safe and she's not coerced into it. Keep in mind that I don't have children, so maybe I would feel differently if I did. If I did, I probably wouldn't be here posting about how to get women to sell their bodies.
Please don't make assumptions about my morals.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
If you don't understand the basic power inequality, you may be basing your opinion on western values, where pussy has the upper hand. Or at least has power. Remember, this family were Haitians, not the Huxtables from around the corner, LOL.
[/QUOTE]I completely understand the inequality. I assume you mean the obvious economic inequality. Inequality is a fact of life. I'm not sure I can imagine a world where there wasn't inequality. I'm pretty sure in a completely equal world, most of us would not be screwing any decent girls from Haiti nor anywhere else. I completely understand I was born with privilege and opportunity. Not as privileged as others on this board but privilege none the less.
I also completely understand that it is this basic power inequality that allows us to sleep with any of these younger good looking girls that we desire. I am under no false illusion that they are sleeping with me for my good looks and charm.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
Getting a Haitian family to "just come out", to meet a foreigner in a restaurant involves far more logistics (the aforementioned clothing, grooming, travel expenses) than it does for a monger with a dedicated budget for recreational sex. If you understand these cultural differences, you can navigate them successfully.
[/QUOTE]Frankly, and I hate to sound like an ass, but I don't care how difficult it is for a family to come out and see me. Then don't come out. And I won't waste my time going out. What matters to me is that you do what you say you will do. And by the same token, I will happily do what I say I will, or with the utmost sincerity try to. That means paying what I say I'm going to pay. If a girl comes out and we have sex, I will pay the agreed upon amount.
I do understand though. I admit that I have been that guy many times, who ends up paying for everyone and it is precisely because of those experiences that I refuse to do it anymore.
Also to be fair, many times girls want to meet and go for a meal first, and if they don't want to meet me alone, they will ask me if they can "bring a friend", as long as its not a guy, most of the time I don't mind paying. Its the times when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of that get to me. Going to meet a guy and bringing your whole family without prior notice is definitely grounds to be walked out on.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
The monger who spends a little more for then the "going rate" for better pussy, is often derided and called out as a fool here, and is accused of being stupid, "spoiling the market" or not knowing any better.
[/QUOTE]I agree with those people, but I don't think calling people fools is going to stop anyone from overpaying. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478170]
IMHO, this is normal behavior down here, for a dirt poor Haitian family selling the only precious asset they have in the world, to a "rich" foreigner. LOL.
[/QUOTE]Thats one way to look at it. Another way that they should be happy that prostitution is a thing and that "rich" foreigners are even willing to pay for it. Do you think they would be better off if there were no one around to buy their only precious asset? Even better, imagine this, this precious asset is renewable! They can sell it over and over again!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]It was even that bleak with using Tinder. Or that was just you walking around.
Interesting comments.
Particularly this one.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2478321]Frankly, and I hate to sound like an ass, but I don't care how difficult it is for a family to come out and see me. [/QUOTE]As I said before, there are as many different types of mongers, as there are chicas.
I have no interest in telling others how to roll, but in my experience, by taking a little time to understand the culture where we ply our trade, and adjust our game accordingly, we can avoid the constant pitfalls, scams and rip offs, that seems to befall some of our monger brethren, and their "buddies".
And that's the reason I am on this board. To give another viewpoint, a positive one, based on my own 11 year personal experience with Sosua.
That, and the constant implying by the same old posters here, that those of us who experience none of this drama, and consistently have satisfactory interactions and successful outcomes with the locals, that we are just happy be exploited by the local "barracudas", because we "don't know any better".
I happen to find that a little derogatory, because it ain't me that's complaining! LOL.
Peace!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478235]Spent week end in sosua. Curfew makes everything more intense. The talent is so so at best. 7 or 8's are rare. You can find something to spend the night but just barely. Girls are asking 100 plus a night. Rumbas is doing a great business in early afternoon. Followd by ahnvee. 500 pesos gets you in. Plenty of average girls. If you are a vet it might break your heart. The girls are hardcore by enlarge. High percentage of bad girls. Almost nothing went well on trip.[/QUOTE]I'm a vet and it breaks my heart just to hear it! I don't think the sue will ever be what it was. I think we're going to have to break a new destination. Where I don't know. But we will figure it out!
Government announces medical and trip protection insurance for all visitors.
[B]Starting at the end of September, all tourists visiting the Dominican Republic will be covered with a temporary comprehensive health and travel insurance plan. The medical and trip protection insurance plan for visitors will cover hospitalization for coronavirus in the tourism destinations in the country, extended hotel stays and airline ticket changes.
Only random testing will be carried out at airports. Visitors will not be required to bring test results to travel here. The random rapid breathalyzer testing is set to start at the end of September. Once this measure is in place, the current requirement that travelers come with a negative PCR Covid-19 test or be subject to random antibody blood test at the airports will be eliminated.[/B]
During the presentation of the Responsible Tourism Recovery Plan to Covid-19 at the Presidential Palace on 25 August 2020, President Luis Abinader gave highlights of the measures being taken by the new government in the wake of the current pandemic and to ensure that the country is a safe travel destination and moves towards the new normalcy.
"Our goal is to minimize the effects of the pandemic and promote a responsible recovery that prioritizes health, maximizes the potential for job creation and economic growth, and promotes the continued sustainable development of the sector," said the President.
Abinader said that several resorts have prepared in-house medical care facilities for first care to guests. Tourists would be given preferential treatment for timely testing in nearby labs. Embassies will receive timely information on any citizen that falls ill.
Mask wearing and keeping physical distance are mandatory during each visitor's stay.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2477854]Why did everyone get "scammed" here? They should pay for what they ordered. Unless of course the guy explicitly said he would pay for all their meals before ordering, then sure, he's a jerk and I guess they were "scammed". I would have asked for my order to go and then paid for my order and politely left.[/QUOTE]The person you are talking to lied about the details from the original scenario. The guy advised the chick before the meet that it was supposed to be for "drinks" only. That means, she was to advise those accomanying her that that is what the deal was. That wasnt the best way to get that message across. And the guy learned or was reinforced a valuable lesson. It didn't even have to be about the family members coming along. The chick could have done the same thing if she was by herself.
In the original story, the chick and her family started ordering food. And they must have already had the drinks. One of them supposedly ordered a meal to go. Seeing all of this, he decided to end the date. In other words the vetting process was complete. She / they failed. But he never said he wasnt paying for the food. The problem happened when the police came, saw the guy sitting there dining in the open. Back then dining in the open was sketchy. Then the owner of the restaurant got involved, and wanted the guy to sit somewhere in the back of the restaurant, since the police was there. The guy had already decided he was going to leave, and asked the waiter to prepare the food to go.
The dumb owner did not consult with his waiter tending to the guy, approached the guy directly, and ASSumed he was leaving for some other reason. Maybe he got pissed off with the cops, who knows? Before the waiter explained the situation, the owner had already made the situation worse, and basically told the guy to leave, and that he didn't want his business. The guy basically said, ok if that is how you want it, I'll leave. The guy and his guests ended up not getting the food to go, and not paying for the drinks. So, as you rightly pointed out. Nobody got scammed. The guy just dodged a bullet allowing his guests to order food when he advised his date it was only going to be for drinks.
His wallet got a break, so it can be fleeced another day.
And also, if that chick and her family wanted the food, there was nothing stopping them from telling the waiter that they still wanted the food, and paying for it. I think that's fair, since they werent supposed to be ordering food anyway. And nothing was stopping them from paying for the drinks drunk either. The owners beef and disrespect was to the guy, not the family. The owner didn't tell the family he didn't want their business, he told the guy. So nothing stopping the family from paying for their drinks.
And bear in mind, the dude did not bolt to get out of paying. Like the dimwit fallacy story from the individual you were talking to. Nothing in the scenario suggested his intent wasnt to pay for everything. His intent was to pay, until the stupid owner fucked everything up and told him to leave. The owner fucked up by not realizing why the guy was leaving, which didn't have anything to do with the restaurant. The individual you were talking to said the guy could have told the waiter ahead of time about it's only for drinks. True, he could have done that. But so could the chica he was with adhered to his plan and told her family the same. Is she exempt from responsibility in this matter? HELL NO. Moreover, the owner should have consulted with his waiter before fucking up business and losing a customer, and potential references.
And lastly, the dude you are talking to, has a history of entrusting p4p chicas with holding his wallet with money, debit card and even his passport. Yeah exactly, his passport. I addressed that lunacy a while back. Which is one reason why he has me on ignore to this day. I exposed a lot of holes in his stories, and his biggest problem is fabricating , lying and omitting details of what someone else writes when he cant offer a good debate or argument.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2478400]And that's the reason I am on this board. To give another viewpoint, a positive one, based on my own 11 year personal experience with Sosua.[/QUOTE]I do not recall the story. The backdrop of this conversation that is, and no comments hence as to its degree of veracity but I second your thought. I do not live there but there are definitely positive experiences to be had with some homework and due caution. If the women are to be accused of wrongdoing, guys too have a contribution. It takes two to tango. Males are not always the saints as a few on this board insist.
After a long time I can connect to the forum, I hope you are all well my friends!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2478444]I'm a vet and it breaks my heart just to hear it! I don't think the sue will ever be what it was. I think we're going to have to break a new destination. Where I don't know. But we will figure it out![/QUOTE]August, being low season in Sosua, and the heart of hurricane season, and the rain and heat, was never a good time for our hobby. I don't recall a good report from this time of the yea as most tourists don'are start to arrive until the fall.
On top of all this we have the CIVID crisis, so I wouldn't expect anything different, this year.
Hopefully it will pick up again, when PP airport reopens fully to foreign travel in the fall, and the tourist money starts flowing again. When we should see a lot more hungry chicas!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2478612]I do not recall the story. The backdrop of this conversation that is, and no comments hence as to its degree of veracity but I second your thought. I do not live there but there are definitely positive experiences to be had with some homework and due caution. If the women are to be accused of wrongdoing, guys too have a contribution. It takes two to tango. Males are not always the saints as a few on this board insist.[/QUOTE]It's really an old chestnut from years ago.
We all roll in different ways.
As I've often posted here, I have had two regulars, one for 7 years and one for 4 years. I usually make that clear to put my posts in context to the average casual monger.
I don't like to carry a man bag, containing my shit, so I always let her carry my phone, the day's dinero, my passport when traveling, my keys, glasses, cigarettes and lighter, and my bank card. She takes care of the minor purchases, groceries, fruit vendors, moto conchos and stuff.
Like having a personal valet, like A-Rod. LOL.
She carries it in her Brinks Bolsa, commonly referred to as a handbag, which is as safe as the Bank of England. Try and pry that out of her clutches, LOL. Never had any shit lost or stolen. In 11 years.
(It actually came about after I had known her for a couple years, and got tired of fumbling thru my pockets in dark bars (in my old heavy partying days) to pay the tab, figuring out a propina, and trying to count my change.).
But the post prompted much derision, even outrage, from some posters, back in the day, and apparently, it still does. Some still refer to it as "lunacy", LOL.
Of course, it's not quite the same as handing over all my shit to strange P4P Sosua hookers and hoping for the best, as it was portrayed, by some, who still bring it up after all these years. And my bank card has a secret pin. In any event my bank doesn't hold me responsible for it's fraudulent use.
I ALWAYS made sure in those posts (It's on the record) to say I didn't recommend it to others, and still don't, because as the sad stories posted here confirm, some are foolish enough to do just that, and then blame the "barracuda" for ripping them off! LOL.
I can honestly say I've never put anybody on an ignore list. The truth of the matter is that I'm still on moderation for past exchanges with the OP, and I don't even control my own ignore list. And I've shrunk from any from any spirited debate here. It's all part of the fun. LOL.
Of course, everybody here is free to believe who, and what they want, no mi problemo! I'm just posting my happy journey from casual monger to happy Sosua resident, for anybody interested, and hopefully providing a little insight and info to others who may be thinking about doing the same. I get enough encouragement and positive feedback to make my time spent on this board worthwhile, but I'the hate to see the "Cancel Culture" take hold here too.
I wish all OP's nothing but happy mongering!
And, peace!
Has anyone stayed at Ahnvee lately. 2 friends of mine have memberships there. They have complained of poor accomodatianss, no hot water and frequent power failures. I am curious if these issues have been addressed. Can anyone give an update. They are printing money now. 500 pesos per person and only game in town. Selling more drinks and food then ever.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2478800]It's really an old chestnut from years ago.[/QUOTE]I kind of vaguely remember your account of a woman carrying your stuff and I did not think anything of it (except remembering that the real rich or say, the Queen, do not carry a wallet or ID, there is someone else for that). I also do not remember others' reaction to your post although as you said, there might be enough dumb people to mimic you and so a caveat is a good idea. I can understand if someone speaks of it as a preventive measure but surely without recrimination?
In any case, going to the original story, sometimes I think that perhaps it is okay not to speak of my positive experiences; that way there would be less of the weekend warriors in town. Who knows, that might be the ulterior motive of the naysayers? In the meantime, there is a lot of hunger going around there.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2478896]Has anyone stayed at Ahnvee lately. 2 friends of mine have memberships there. They have complained of poor accomodatianss, no hot water and frequent power failures. I am curious if these issues have been addressed. Can anyone give an update. They are printing money now. 500 pesos per person and only game in town. Selling more drinks and food then ever.[/QUOTE]I was there recently and I loved the room I had ($100 one) the hot water was plentiful and the WiFi was good and also a true hd flatscreen with plenty English speaking stations. The bad was the food is pricey, and we ran across a big rat while walking on the first floor, it had me shook because I knew it prolly had friends and I'm not used to seeing the fuckin things.
I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]Find a taxi driver to show you around.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]At the beach hookers usually are dressed and walk with their bags, they don't swim or walk in bikinis, generally. Visit Ahnvee hotel at the end of Pedro Clisante. As for looks, its an issue, and the only advice I can give is to move to Santiago or Santo Domingo.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]Odd that beach hookers are ignoring you.
Just a suggestion. Try this:
Get a table in the shade, near the path. Shade is important. Order a drink. Smile! Look happy, like you are celebrating your birthday, or lottery winnings, LOL. Strike up a conversation with your server, by asking for local information, directions etc.
You will be noticed, they can smell a tourist a mile away.
When you see a potential chica walking by, with or without a girl friend, smile, nod, wink or wave. And point to your drink. When they come over repeat the conversation you just had with your server. Buy them a beer or a coke.
Don't mention sex, or ask how much. They'll size you up and make you an an offer. Take it from there. Go to any bar in town, repeat.
As the OP suggests, plan an evening at Ahnvee.
If that doesn't work in Sosua, you are unlikely to have better luck in another DR town.
Let us know how you make out!
I rolled into town at around 2:00 pm Yesterday afternoon. Got a hotel room and hit the street around 3. By 4 pm, I was with a tasty 24 year old, after several ice cold Presidentes from Kings.
By 5 pm, the streets were shuttered but I scored and was glad to see there is still action even though it's limited.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]I have not been since March but apparently things have picked up in the afternoon- Ahnvee is a resort so it stays open til 11 if you are staying there. You aren't allowed in or out after 11- it is mostly filled with the Hennesy and Coca cola crowd so it can be loud I'm told- If you see a girl you like just say hola. If she is on the game she will stop and flirt. Make sure you establish prices and services before you go anywhere. In the day time offer 2000 pesos for a short time. Try not to pay more than 3000 - you screw it up for everyone and you could prolly get it for 1500 right now in the day time.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]How long are you there for. I get there on Thursday.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]Are you saying, that you are Asian? Sosua is full of Chinese, including store owners and their credit is strong so that definitely will not be an issue.
Do you speak German by any chance? If that this the case, there are a couple of German owned restaurants on Main street. One is right next to Merenque bar, called something-stube. You should get there as there are plenty of German speakers there who could help.
For the rest, others have given you all required information.
Yes I'm German. (OK polish, but German Citizen).
Sorry, there was a spelling Mistake. I meant I was an Asian only monger, first time in caribic.
I'm staying two weeks.
Now I'm OK I already picked street Girls and collected a few Numbers!
Thank you for your advises!
Its Not that Bad but the chicas on the street are showing up at afternoon.
Yesterday I picked a 23 year old Haitian from the street.
We agreed 2000 p for 2 rounds.
Excellent GFE with nice DFK but a bit smelly Pussy which was a turn off.
I meet a few Germans at the German grill at the main Road and will Walk around and collect more Numbers.
Today is a bit better. Yesterday on Sunday the pickings were low.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479542]I know it Sounds funny but can Somebody Tell me how to approach hookers here?
Its my first time here and its Sunday and I don't find much SW here.
The ones on the beach I say hola walk away. The ones on the street which say hola to me are Not my Taste.
How can I get acceptable hookers these Times in Sosua?
Or is this because Sunday and the early curfew?
Or because me haha? I never mongered in the Caribbean, I Hope as Asian only.[/QUOTE]I surprised no one has said Saturday and Sunday is family day on Sosua beach with families coming as far as Santiago and La Vega. A lot of pretty chicks in that group and can you pull a regular hot chick. A regular hot chick with keep walking if your not appealing to them just like in the real world.
Hey fellas,
Thinking of heading down to DR for a few days in September. Never been, and I think Sousa looks good based on my preference for free lance chicas and the beach.
I want to avoid hotels as they can be a hassle with bringing back local talent.
Any recommendations on casas for rent? I saw a few on AirBNB near the beach but I thought you fellas would know better than I.
DM with any recommendations. I can discuss my many years mongering in Colombia with you as well LOL.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=EliottSpitzer;2479877]Hey fellas,
Thinking of heading down to DR for a few days in September. Never been, and I think Sousa looks good based on my preference for free lance chicas and the beach.
I want to avoid hotels as they can be a hassle with bringing back local talent.
Any recommendations on casas for rent? I saw a few on AirBNB near the beach but I thought you fellas would know better than I.
DM with any recommendations. I can discuss my many years mongering in Colombia with you as well LOL.
[/QUOTE]Few hotels in Sosua will not allow chicas to come back. Read through the forum. Airbnb, etc. Can be more restrictive. If you go this route, make sure that you email the host prior to your trip to make sure they allow guests.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479824]Yes I'm German. (OK polish, but German Citizen).
Sorry, there was a spelling Mistake. I meant I was an Asian only monger, first time in caribic.
I'm staying two weeks.
Now I'm OK I already picked street Girls and collected a few Numbers!
Thank you for your advises!
Its Not that Bad but the chicas on the street are showing up at afternoon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up.
You got by the first hurdle, attracting the attention of hookers. Now the next step is harder for the casual visitor with only two weeks to spare, how to get in contact with with semis, and even non pros.
First, forget the initial newbie advice I gave you below, LOL Here's the next step.
Dress like a local, long pants, shoes, and a shirt with sleeves. No short shorts or Speedo's, LOL. Don't hang around just hooker bars. Now, you have hopefully already made a good impression on your aforementioned servers with my last bit of advice, most of whom are semis. (you are a nice guy, happy, no trouble, no drama and not a cheapskate) So you now you have contacts. From there the world of semis will open up to you.
Expand your conversations with them, ask about their jobs, about where they live, their family, and soon they'll be showing you photos of their kids, and telling you how old they are, and how they like to spend their free time. That opens up a new area, because it just so happens that you love to spend your spare time in the same way! What a fucking co-incidence! LOL.
If the stars align, she'll be fucking you and looking for the "going rate" when you're done. If the sex is good, don't try to negotiate her down from a fair going rate.
If you can multi task and keep a few of these pots simmering on the back burner, you may find among them a gem, a keeper and a reason to keep coming to Sosua.
For now, forget non pros. You don't have time for that with only two weeks.
Good hunting!
I fucked a Haitian from the street from which I took the number Yesterday.
We agreed for 1500 p for chupar and sex through what's App.
After the deed Which was Excellent with Balls licking and nice showering together I have her 500 propina.
So 2000. She gave me back and said I'm loco.
Chupar is 1500 and sex is 1500 p and I should give her 1000 p extra because I wanted Balls licking.
WTF? So she wants 4000 p!
She starts shouting give me my fucking money and 100 p for motoconcho (4100 now) tambien.
I showed her how she agreed to my Whatsapp. No its because me No habla espanol I no comprende.
She is right. Give me Money pendejo or I call Police!
I said OK I call Security now and they kick you Out.
Then she throws a plastic glass with water on me.
I said OK I went to the safe and took 100 p more then I push her throw the door and Sai I give you everything at reception.
I closed my room door and went down. She stayed on my Floor shouting.
I waited at the reception.
After two min she came down, took her ID and then came to me.
I opened the Security door (at Plaza Europa) gave her 2100 p and pushed her through.
She shouted hijo the puta and showed me middle Finger.
I need to take a break for today from chicas. My mood is down now.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2479824]Yes I'm German. (OK polish, but German Citizen).[/QUOTE]You had written a word in German in that post (Die), which is why I suggested that you speak to fellow Germans. The Germany Bar and Grill is good but it is not where the action is on the main street. The place I mentioned: "Schlemmerstube" is right in the center of action and is full of Haitian women and their German friends. You should speak to some of those fellow Germans to see if they recommend someone because what you described here with the Haitian girl is not normal, they do not scream or threaten to call the polizei.
By the way, very close to the place I recommend, there is the Schnitzel Palace, run by Austrians; there is a (not young) polish lady who works there in case you are missing speaking Polskie!
Be safe!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480037]I fucked a Haitian from the street from which I took the number Yesterday. We agreed for 1500 p for chupar and sex through what's App. After the deed Which was Excellent with Balls licking and nice showering together I have her 500 propina. So 2000. She gave me back and said I'm Loco. Chupar is 1500 and sex is 1500 p and I should give her 1000 p extra because I wanted Balls licking. WTF? So she wants 4000 p! She starts shouting give me my fucking money [/QUOTE]LOL. Welcome to Sosua. I bet you never had to deal with anything like that in Asia. Yet some will say this is all your fault. The girl should not have learned Spanish before she went to hoar in the DR for years, but you should have learned Haitian Kreyol before going to monger in a Spanish speaking country for one week.
To some this is all too normal, and once again I say they do not know any better because you don't get this kind of BS in other mongering places, especially after you try to give them a big ass tip! Hookers in other places know how to conduct a business transaction and give good customer service without trying to fuck (not even literally) someone over.
Stick around Sosua and you are sure to witness more of this type of behavior to come. Unfortunately it has become par for the course. 4000 pesos for Short Time. Plus 100 for motorbike? Why would you have to give her money for a taxi when you met her and she lives 100 meters from your hotel? Because it is Sosua that's why! LOL.
P.S. Where did trying to be nice by giving those raggedy hoars a large 500 peso tip get you? As Old Kool would say, you have to develop a rapport and be nice and kind and make them feel appreciated if you want them to stick it into you deep and without vaseline...or something along those lines. Words to live by.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480037]I fucked a Haitian from the street from which I took the number Yesterday.
We agreed for 1500 p for chupar and sex through what's App.
After the deed Which was Excellent with Balls licking and nice showering together I have her 500 propina.
So 2000. She gave me back and said I'm loco.
Chupar is 1500 and sex is 1500 p and I should give her 1000 p extra because I wanted Balls licking.
WTF? So she wants 4000 p!
She starts shouting give me my fucking money and 100 p for motoconcho (4100 now) tambien.
I showed her how she agreed to my Whatsapp. No its because me No habla espanol I no comprende.
She is right. Give me Money pendejo or I call Police!
I said OK I call Security now and they kick you Out.
Then she throws a plastic glass with water on me.
I said OK I went to the safe and took 100 p more then I push her throw the door and Sai I give you everything at reception..[/QUOTE]Too bad your session turned into drama.
But that sort of thing can be avoided, if you follow the advice I and a few other happy mongers recommend, namely, with strange hooker off the street, take a little time over a beer / Coke / coffee to see if there are any communication or attitude or grooming / hygiene problems before taking her into your room. If she balks at that, she won't be any different once she gets into your room, so move on, there's always another. The price of a drink and a few minutes of your time can save you a lot of trouble later, and you'll feel like a Hollywood producer auditiong potential starlets. Make it fun.
At least you handled the "exit strategy" right.
If it happens to you again, then Sosua is not for you, move on amigo.
Good luck!
Is the German place (one of these) on PC. Yes I was there Yesterday also and this is for sure Haitian Ground zero.
I collected numbers and have much to do now.
They recommend me to friends and I have more contacts now in WA than I can handle.
Business is slow and they are texting all the time.
The quality has falling off. The street girls are tougher and harder to manage. The curfew is keeping the better girls away. I never guote Mr E as he has little worth while to say.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480037]I fucked a Haitian from the street from which I took the number Yesterday.
We agreed for 1500 p for chupar and sex through what's App.
After the deed Which was Excellent with Balls licking and nice showering together I have her 500 propina.
So 2000. She gave me back and said I'm loco.
Chupar is 1500 and sex is 1500 p and I should give her 1000 p extra because I wanted Balls licking.
WTF? So she wants 4000 p!
She starts shouting give me my fucking money and 100 p for motoconcho (4100 now) tambien.
I showed her how she agreed to my Whatsapp. No its because me No habla espanol I no comprende.
She is right. Give me Money pendejo or I call Police!
I said OK I call Security now and they kick you Out.
Then she throws a plastic glass with water on me.
I said OK I went to the safe and took 100 p more then I push her throw the door and Sai I give you everything at reception.
I closed my room door and went down. She stayed on my Floor shouting.
I waited at the reception.
After two min she came down, took her ID and then came to me.
I opened the Security door (at Plaza Europa) gave her 2100 p and pushed her through.
She shouted hijo the puta and showed me middle Finger.
I need to take a break for today from chicas. My mood is down now.[/QUOTE]
I knew this before but I got it confirmed again.
Yesterday when I was eating a 25 year old from Santo Domingo (Who knows the truth) approached me.
She had a cute face and nice body from which I could see. She asked for 3000 and I said 2000 (I usually offered 1500).
She said she Has no baby, but lied because in the room there were the Stretchmarks.
BJ was so so. I don't liked her in Missio, so fucked her doggy.
Between the fake moaning she did not forget to Ask if I already finished.
I missed the legendary Leche Papi Leche which I Heard so much about but sadly didn't get it.
So body Not better and service also Not. I could really pass on her.
Today an other Haitian for 2000 (she wanted 2500) she had a nice body with excellent ass.
But BJ very bad. Fucked her in Missio, she watched TV without any noise.
Then in doggy she got some decent pounding from me which she seemed to like, because was moaning. Finished, she took unasked a banana from me, got 2000 and went.
No repeat needed.
I try paying 1500 p again.
I was thinking about going to this ahnvee Resort, but came to the conclusion that I pass on that because it is likely that the Chinese Virus is also partying there from what I Heard is going on there.
I'm taking Risks, but in my risk management this is too much.
I'm sorry but no good experience for a newbie in Sosua ever started with a 1500 peso offer. If your expectation was to go to Sosua for the first time and have all kinds of great sessions with beautiful women for 1500 pesos a pop you will never find happiness there. You are correct that more money doesn't always mean a better experience, but less money will almost always mean a less than satisfying experience. I'm speaking to first timers or people with little experience in sosua. Were you really bothered that she took a banana without asking?
- People asking for Money are sadly annoying all the time. They don't give Up and Walk after you.
- People trying to sell me drugs are annoying. They pretend to be Afroamerican. Don't know if its true.
- Motoconcho drivers are Assholes. They Ask 100 p but later want 300 because the Ride took so much time.
- Policia Nacional is annoying, because today from 3 - 5 pm PC was full of hookers, then they disappeared when they come.
- Hookers asking 100 p for food when you say you don't want them are annoying.
- Hookers Who say they don't have a Mobile Phone are annoying.
- Money Changers are annoying because they Always try to give shitty rates and you have to hustle with them.
- The curfew is annoying.
- All chicas are doing this annoying nipple sucking. Is someone actually enjoying that?
- And finally overweight hookers Who are grabbing your Balls are annoying as hell!
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2480384]I'm sorry but no good experience for a newbie in Sosua ever started with a 1500 peso offer. If your expectation was to go to Sosua for the first time and have all kinds of great sessions with beautiful women for 1500 pesos a pop you will never find happiness there. You are correct that more money doesn't always mean a better experience, but less money will almost always mean a less than satisfying experience. I'm speaking to first timers or people with little experience in sosua. Were you really bothered that she took a banana without asking?[/QUOTE]Whatever dude. I have had plenty of great sessions and beautiful women for 1000 to 1500 pesos in the Su and SDQ. Only suckers over pay.
Especially these days, those chicas are hungry and I have plenty of grub. We have what they need, not the other way around.
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2480384]You are correct that more money doesn't always mean a better experience, but less money will almost always mean a less than satisfying experience. I'm speaking to first timers or people with little experience in sosua.[/QUOTE]Funny. My first few times in Sosua chicks were going for 1000 pesos all night. Never any problems and always great experiences. The scam shit started when mfs started paying way more money for way less time. It encouraged the chicks to do way less work and give way worse service.
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2480384]Were you really bothered that she took a banana without asking?[/QUOTE]Of course there is no reason to be bothered by it if you don't mind being stolen from. At least try to give someone good service before you start helping yourself to his shit. The same people asking a question like this are the same ones that will be down at the front desk if the maid had moved a banana from one corner of the table to another. For some reason women are given a lot more leeway if she lets a guy stick his dick into her. Today it is a banana. Tomorrow it is his loose change. After that it is his cologne, cell phone, and laptop computer. Don't touch someone's shit unless they give you permission is what my parents taught me.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480296]I knew this before but I got it confirmed again.
Yesterday when I was eating a 25 year old from Santo Domingo (Who knows the truth) approached me.
She had a cute face and nice body from which I could see. She asked for 3000 and I said 2000 (I usually offered 1500).
She said she Has no baby, but lied because in the room there were the Stretchmarks.
BJ was so so. I don't liked her in Missio, so fucked her doggy.
Between the fake moaning she did not forget to Ask if I already finished.
I missed the legendary Leche Papi Leche which I Heard so much about but sadly didn't get it.
So body Not better and service also Not. I could really pass on her.
Today an other Haitian for 2000 (she wanted 2500) she had a nice body with excellent ass.
But BJ very bad. Fucked her in Missio, she watched TV without any noise..[/QUOTE]Looks like you're figuring out Sosua fast.
One minor point, but it has been mentioned a couple times. And it's a cultural thing.
Bananas are the next thing to free in the DR. Probably cheaper than the wad of your Kleenex she uses to wipe your cum off her face, the shower soap she uses, or a glass of your drinking water.
It's not like taking a banana from an Eskimo. LOL, and hardly a step or two away from stealing your laptop.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2480462]
Of course there is no reason to be bothered by it if you don't mind being stolen from. At least try to give someone good service before you start helping yourself to his shit. [/QUOTE]From what I'm reading she didn't steal it. She took it in front of him but didn't ask. He didn't right if he corrected her or not. I'm wondering was first chica DzikaBomba talked about that scammed him was really a Haitian. It sounds a lot more like a Dominican than a Haitian. With everything that's going on its the Haitians that are less likely to want to even involve the police. Especially in the Su. A lot of new guys often mistake dark skin Dominican's for Haitians.
I remember my cousin who I took to the Su for the first time. He had this thing about not wanting to have sex with a Haitian. After he bragged about his conquest from the previous night, I had to explain to him the girl was Haitian. He did not believe me until he asked her. After she confirmed she was indeed Haitian, I told him first time to the Su. You 1000 times- me!
I agree with Chris H but we are very experience in this hobby. We are less likely to have situations with out-of-control chicas changing their price and arguing about calling the police.
I also agree with Sam - if you are inexperience you cannot expect to pay like a vet and get the most out of the situation. Chicas can smell newbie all over you. That smell is going to affect your overall business transaction when dealing with Street chicas. Remember their culture calls for the men to be domineering. They respect that and will shit on the nice guy.
If you are new to the Su scene dont expect the GF experience unless you paid the price for it and establish the respect. If by chance you do get it consider yourself lucky but its not the norm.
It appears I was wrong with my rate assessment. I feel so tiny now to know that I have been paying too much all along. I'm such a sucker. Anyway so ChrisH even your goal of 1500 is too high to start at. So get back out there an offer 1000 and everything will go perfect. Current rates are now 1000 to 1500 toda la noche with beautiful 5 star providers. So much has changed apparently since I was there 3 weeks ago I can't wait to return!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2480503]I'm wondering was first chica DzikaBomba talked about that scammed him was really a Haitian. A lot of new guys often mistake dark skin Dominican's for Haitians.[/QUOTE]Seems like he said that the chick said she didn't she did not speak Spanish so she did not understand when he showed the agreement in whatsapp.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2480517]Seems like he said that the chick said she didn't she did not speak Spanish so she did not understand when he showed the agreement in whatsapp.[/QUOTE]Yep that's why it was more confusing. A Haitian that doesn't speak much Spanish giving a gringo a hard time in a hotel. A Haitian demanding he paid for her Moto Concho ride. A Haitian arguing with A white gringo and willing to involve the police. (my assumption). Last but not lease she has her ID at the front Desk.
I'm glad he dealt with the ordeal but I don't understand why he did not use security to his advantage? Was the newbie smell that strong on him? In my experience, the Haitians that speak little Spanish are the least likely to want a problem.
I’m also confused about his headliner posts. It seems to me he agreed on 2000 pesos on both occasions. It’s not like he agreed to pay one more than the other and got less of a performance. Maybe I’m missing something.
Please do not get offended if some of us question your report. We only question because we read what you say out of respect. I love reading new reports. Personally I would rather someone ask me a question about something I've written. I preferred that over me taking time to write out a report and no one even commenting about it. Now I'm cool with both ways.
01 DzikaBomba don't let us discourage you. We are getting a hard on from your story. Fill in the blanks for us.
This is the first time I've read on this forum of a monger having an issue with a Haitian. I have been with many Haitians in Sosua and every Haitian I was with were very good and better in bed than the Dominican babes generally. I never ever had a problem with a Haitian belle. On the other hand I've had several issues with Dominican chicas.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2480530]This is the first time I've read on this forum of a monger having an issue with a Haitian. I have been with many Haitians in Sosua and every Haitian I was with were very good and better in bed than the Dominican babes generally. I never ever had a problem with a Haitian belle. On the other hand I've had several issues with Dominican chicas.[/QUOTE]You see what I'm saying? I am seven years strong with well over 80 trips to the Su. I can count on my 1 finger how many times I had a problem with a Haitian. I maybe can count two more fingers if I concentrate hard.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2480399] We have what they need, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]Maybe you don't need pussy but I do and at my age I can't get it without paying for it so with that said, it does work the other way around also, they got the pussy and I need it.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2480503] I'm wondering was first chica DzikaBomba talked about that scammed him was really a Haitian. It sounds a lot more like a Dominican than a Haitian. With everything that's going on its the Haitians that are less likely to want to even involve the police. Especially in the Su. A lot of new guys often mistake dark skin Dominican's for Haitians.[/QUOTE]Grownman1 is 100% spot on, no Haitian in Sosua is calling the police, she must have been a Dominicana.
I don't care about the Banana. She could take 5. But she was also checking there fridge and things like that. I don't liked that. She is not at her Home. But please this is really not so important.
Yesterday (and today a Repeat) I had two Dominicanas for 2500 and they where nice.
One was OK, but the other one was excellent. Very beautiful with long legs, flat Stomach and small perky tits. Really god shape and well groomed with some cute small tatoos. Meet her yesterday on PC. I repeated her today in the Morning.
She was so clean and good smelling that I could also enjoy DATY on her (first time I wanted to try that here). She was also enjoying this and getting wet.
But she only wants to give CBJ. This is normally a nogo, but I accepted, because I was satisified wit the Rest and you can not always have 100%.
But maybe this is also a good sign. Because that shows she takes care of herself. I would only pay to enjoy DATY on her. I also liked her Spanish speaking. It was so clear that I could understand most of that. She said she is from Santo Domingo.
Will definitely repeat. Next Time I need to take a photo of her. I always forget that.
The other one said she would give me a lesbo show with a friend. I wanted to negotiate that for today with her. But my shitty Telephone Honor 8 which I use for Holidays is not working anymore.
Damn! I hope they can repair that!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480571]I don't care about the Banana. She could take 5. But she was also checking there fridge and things like that. I don't liked that. She is not at her Home. But please this is really not so important![/QUOTE]I agree with you it's really not that important it's just a lot of us vets know the characteristics and habits of the different chicas. And everything you described are the habits of Dominicanas. A few of us are very analytical so don't let it discourage you. These are posts from my last two months. Notice the characteristics of the Dominicanas. I'm not questioning the authenticity of your report. But the behavior of your Chica is kind of odd.
Friday.
Og.
I called up my OG Chica. I called her OG because I knew her before she would even walk the strip. She was an 18 year old Dominicana with a nice donkey butt and Slender frame. I haven't dealt with her in years. She still has that donkey butt but she's picked up weight with it.
From behind it's a beautiful view. But because I know what she used to be and she has graduated to the streets; she's off my normal roster.
I was in the park and she made me do a double take. Man that ass looks good from the back. When I got close to her and saw it was her I was like damn.
OK I'll give you a session for old time sake's but you better be good like I remember. She walks in my room and the first thing she does is open my refrigerator. Nothing. I told her I was used to Dominicanas Coming over and looking for something in my refrigerator that they didn't put in. That's why is empty. Now tell me what are you looking for that you didn't put in.
Our session was good but I miss her younger energy. She started off with a BBBJ which was skillful and pleasing. 1500 peso and a dress.
After my a day of rest; I had set up something through Tinder. I don't know if I was high, but I missed and paid for an account to be activated. I thought I was just looking at pictures. I said oh well I'll ride out this month. It just so happened I was leaving for the DR in four days anyway.
One of my tinder match's was a Chica from The capital. We traded numbers and I ask her did she have any friends. She started sending me pictures of her friends. Nice young Morenas between 6 1/2 and 7. Barrio chicasbetween 18 and 21. She had an amiga that was requesting someone with a very big dick.
Come to find out the chica that was on tinder actually was three months pregnant. She was down for the P4 P, but no one wanted her. She said she would just bring her three girls through. I got my Road dogs ready.
The girls arrived and were cute but Slim. One of my friends immediately passed up his request. My other friend became busy but I knew the girls were to Slim for him. I called up one of my friends that love tiny Hineys. He came over I said he couldn't do anything until tomorrow financially.
I'm left with three girls but it's cool I have a game plan. Just so happened it was one of their birthday so you know I was eyeing on her. I told them my friends backed out, however I'm going to make them a deal.
I can have one at a time for 1500 pesos per day or two at the same time for 1000 pesos apiece. However who I have sex with first, if she is good, I will tip her 500 pesos and 500 pesos to her friends to share. I will repeat with her friend tomorrow.
You should've seen them in a huddle trying to see who goes first. I remind them; whoever goes in the room first must be good or the deal is off. The birthday girl demanded she goes first. She's the oldest and the smallest of the group. Maybe 100 pounds soaking wet. I love her spirit. Plus she's a LEO. My bedroom Master. Just The different body style change up I needed.
In the bed room she was a lioness! Aggressively seductive. She even gave me the seductive submissive look that my ex (LEO) used to give me. Face down ass up, glancing back at me, biting her lip And rolling her eyes, as if to say why are you fucking me and please don't stop.
When we were done I just walked outside and gave her amigas 500 pesos to share. I also gave her one of my speakers for her birthday. 2500 pesos and 2 jumbo El Presidente's. Was the whole damage.
During my session with a friend the other two raided my refrigerator of all the soda and candy which was for them anyway. It's funny they drunk all the soda and left the Presidente in the refrigerator untouched. I think I will only repeat with the birthday girl.
I never met a Haitian that conducted herself in this manner. The feeling of being comfortable enough to open a strangers refrigerator is an act synonymous with Dominicanas. As well as saying there are from Santo Domingo, Causing a ruckus, and demanding that you pay extra. Im not going to mention the Assault part with the bottle water.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2480544]Maybe you don't need pussy but I do and at my age I can't get it without paying for it so with that said, it does work the other way around also, they got the pussy and I need it.[/QUOTE]Ok, that's you and that's understandable. Am not at that stage, so I wouldn't know about that. RESPECT.
The Girl which I had the Drama with Who pretends to be Haitian today texts me from an other number on Whatsapp if I want her again.
This Shows how Desperate these Times are.
I didn't answer and will Block this Number too.
Here is here WhatsApp Foto in for a Warning to not take her or maybe this helps you Grownman for your Analysis.
She Has Red colored Hair on one Side.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2480544]Maybe you don't need pussy but I do and at my age I can't get it without paying for it so with that said, it does work the other way around also, they got the pussy and I need it.[/QUOTE]Haven't you heard that sex is like a game of bridge, if you have a good hand you don't need a partner.
Today I meet an other nice 23 year old Dominican for 2500st. She was very GFE. Excellent BJ and was riding me until finish.
Tomorrow we want to do TLN ON. She asked me how much, but I don't know.
What would be an acceptable amount for overnight? 5000? 6000?
Please help.
She also wants to wife me Up and stay a few days with me and go with me Puerto Plata and Cabarete which would also be interesting.
Would is an good rate for SLT?
Today I meet the one Who wanted to offer me a Lesbo show again.
But today I didn't liked her service too much. Don't know if I will ever meet her again.
First she Text me that for 500 p more I can have BBFS. I said no thank you.
2500 for CFS is okay.
Then the BJ was short and nothing Special. I started fucking her and she asked if I like without condom.
I said of course without is nicer. Then she took the condom off and threw it away.
So I fucked her RAW but still couldn't cum because she was lousy and bored all the time.
We changed positions a few Times and she was getting nervous why I don't cum.
I could not really fuck her in doggy because she kept her Ass to high with her Arms stretched. And she don't wants to lie on her stomach because it Hurts her?
Before that she also asks me to cum inside but I somehow managed and cum on her Ass.
Then this skank turned around and cleaned Up her Ass on my bed!
I hate her for doing that and think with this lousy Service and Behauvior will not meet her again and No Lesbo Show.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480920]Today I meet an other nice 23 year old Dominican for 2500st. She was very GFE. Excellent BJ and was riding me until finish.
Tomorrow we want to do TLN ON. She asked me how much, but I don't know.
What would be an acceptable amount for overnight? 5000? 6000?
Please help.
She also wants to wife me Up and stay a few days with me and go with me Puerto Plata and Cabarete which would also be interesting.
Would is an good rate for SLT?[/QUOTE]Always hard to assess mutual value without knowing the parties involved but here goes.
You've already establish a mutually satisfactory base rate of 2,500 with her.
Assuming you enjoy the sessions with her and are even contemplating keeping her for a week, I would offer her 2500, plus a 500 propina if she continues to deliver deliver the goods, and go from there.
Based on the idea that she wants repeat business from a steady guaranteed client, it should be at a discount, similar to a frequent flyer, or frequent stay deal offered by airlines and hotels.
Hopefully others will chime in?
We can not tell you how much because it is your money. What is it worth to you to be with someone you enjoy and trust. Ask her what she thinks is enough and negotiate. There is a price that works for both of you and you have to find it. Hardcore girls will be very specific but others are more flexible. Get a clear price so you can move on. I love having a girl friend to spend time with for a few days. The sex is always better.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480920]Today I meet an other nice 23 year old Dominican for 2500st. She was very GFE. Excellent BJ and was riding me until finish.
Tomorrow we want to do TLN ON. She asked me how much, but I don't know.
What would be an acceptable amount for overnight? 5000? 6000?
Please help.
She also wants to wife me Up and stay a few days with me and go with me Puerto Plata and Cabarete which would also be interesting.
Would is an good rate for SLT?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480920]Today I meet an other nice 23 year old Dominican for 2500st. She was very GFE. Excellent BJ and was riding me until finish.
Tomorrow we want to do TLN ON. She asked me how much, but I don't know.
What would be an acceptable amount for overnight? 5000? 6000?
Please help.
She also wants to wife me Up and stay a few days with me and go with me Puerto Plata and Cabarete which would also be interesting.
Would is an good rate for SLT?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're doing good with your short times at 2500 pesos. 3500 to 4500 is a good number to settle with for a newbie and a blessing for the Chica. Remember, she's not just doing you a favor you doing her a favor by staying overnight. She doesn't have to go walking the streets looking for customers. This is why she wants to latch on to you. You are paying her consistent money on the weekdays. To be in your company, traveling with you on your vacation, eating and dining with you for free and getting paid.
The weekends were how many these chicas get the bulk of their business. With the current curfew in place the weekends nightlife is very Limited thus so is business. For any Chica to pick up work during the weekdays is a sign of a hopeful better weekend. Just remember to have something to entertain her besides sex when you're alone. Access to Netflix or YouTube can keep her occupied.
It sounds like you're starting to get your rhythm and enjoy yourself. I don't think I ever been there during Monday through Wednesday. It wasn't worth the trip and the selections were on the hard-core side. If you find something you like Don't let paying a little bit more stop you from having fun.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2480920]Today I meet an other nice 23 year old Dominican for 2500st. She was very GFE. Excellent BJ and was riding me until finish.
Tomorrow we want to do TLN ON. She asked me how much, but I don't know.
What would be an acceptable amount for overnight? 5000? 6000?
Please help.
She also wants to wife me Up and stay a few days with me and go with me Puerto Plata and Cabarete which would also be interesting.
Would is an good rate for SLT?[/QUOTE]It's your money and her time and body. I would not mess it up with hard core bargaining especially if you are having a good time with her. I would start by asking what she would like for one LT, then ask what she would like a number of days? Hopefully she will discount for the number of days. Also remind her you will be covering her expenses during the trip.
You might offer to advance a couple LT days so she can pay her rent, electric while you both are gone. Then say you will pay the balance at the end. This will keep her motivated to please.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2480959]We can not tell you how much because it is your money. What is it worth to you to be with someone you enjoy and trust. Ask her what she thinks is enough and negotiate. There is a price that works for both of you and you have to find it. Hardcore girls will be very specific but others are more flexible. Get a clear price so you can move on. I love having a girl friend to spend time with for a few days. The sex is always better.[/QUOTE]Right you are OldKool.
I find the GFE or wife up types are reluctant to put a price on their services, because they have no idea how high a happy monger is prepared to go, or what his financial situation is. They don't want to be the ones that put the limit on. LOL.
It usually comes down to, "whatever you think", because mongers are all over the place when it comes to money. They won't commit to an initial figure, which can be frustrating at times.
I'm a "local" on a budget, but one of my married friends who visits is way "overly generous", and happy to pick up the tab for all the partying in our semi pro crowd, because money is no problem. He'll'll even send down money in advance to make sure the week goes well, and the big welcome mat is laid down.
Now, some would call him a sucker, but he's a smart, successful guy who always gets what he wants, and makes sure it all waiting for him. To him, his time is more important than the money he spends getting away from business and sex prison once in a while. Sosua for him is like a Blackbeards, but with fresher meat. He also has a few connections he's made before and keeps up online.
He could be accused of "spoiling the market", but when he's gone home, it actually improves mine.
I've also posted about one of my other viditors, who I've now cut off, "El cheapo" who wouldn't pay to get laid, because his fresh newbie, wouldn't come right out and ask him for money! She was just relying on the guy to understand the Sosua scene. He's the one that actually gives mongers a bad name.
Smart chicas, especially semi pros, know how to work the freelance market, but the hard core ones don't care about all that nonsense, and parade around with their "menu" and will only offer a "special" if they are hungry enough!
So many variables here, that it's hard to lay down hard and fast rules that apply to any given situation, but I'm constantly reminding my friends what the "going rates" are, and to factor in the fact that you are picking up all the expenses for a paid vacation for her, maybe more than a month's pay down there, and leave it up to them.
It's their money!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2480975]It's your money and her time and body. I would not mess it up with hard core bargaining especially if you are having a good time with her. I would start by asking what she would like for one LT, then ask what she would like a number of days? Hopefully she will discount for the number of days. Also remind her you will be covering her expenses during the trip.
You might offer to advance a couple LT days so she can pay her rent, electric while you both are gone. Then say you will pay the balance at the end. This will keep her motivated to please.[/QUOTE]Really? And you expect to get ATM advice here?
There are a lot of hardcore girls on the street if you are not clear about what you are paying look out. The girls consider what they do their job. You are their client. Striking a fair price is serious business for both of you. The curfew make things harder. You never keep a girl all night unless you test ride her. It sucks having a girl all night who you have no connection with. As long as the the curfew is on guys have to be on point.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2481070]Really? And you expect to get ATM advice here?[/QUOTE]
Tourist in his 50's just died a day ago in a motorcycle scooter accident.
My condolences goes out to his family and just reminds everybody have fun but be safe out there.
The pictures my friend sent me are too graphic and disrespectful to post.
Here a shot of him in a better light.
She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.
I Heard somewhere that this could happen.
But never thought I would get it. In Germany I pay 130€ for an hour so in comparison this is still a bargain but Not what I wanted to pay.
In peso she asks for 7500 and not less.
I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.
[QUOTE=Scotch;2481303]Tourist in his 50's just died a day ago in a motorcycle scooter accident.[/QUOTE]Yep. Riding with no helmet and his head hit a wall. Folks just refuse to be safe.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.
I Heard somewhere that this could happen.
But never thought I would get it. In Germany I pay 130 for an hour so in comparison this is still a bargain but Not what I wanted to pay.
In peso she asks for 7500 and not less.
I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.[/QUOTE]Where the f##k are they getting these crazy prices? In dollar's no less. 5000 pesos is my TLN price. I might go an extra 500 if I really like her or if she was really good. But I don't negotiate or pay in dollars.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2481204]There are a lot of hardcore girls on the street if you are not clear about what you are paying look out. The girls consider what they do their job. You are their client. Striking a fair price is serious business for both of you. The curfew make things harder. You never keep a girl all night unless you test ride her. It sucks having a girl all night who you have no connection with. As long as the the curfew is on guys have to be on point.[/QUOTE]No TLN with a chica you haven't test driven! Maybe in 2012 -14 you could get away with that. Back when classico was closed and it was all rumba, dlatin and small bars. But in today's sosua that is a no no bro!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.[/QUOTE]LOL. What was she saying before she came?
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]I Heard somewhere that this could happen.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that would have been from me, yet I am the crazy one here according to some. Now that you have first hand experience, come on over to the crazy side of at-fault mongers that must be doing something wrong.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.[/QUOTE]What is SLT? I will drink to "Not my League!
That is why you get the price nailed before they post. Once they are in your room with price in air you could be negotiating with the police. They can pick any number out of the air. There are some bad girls out there who will slam dunk you if you are off your game. Sosua is still workable but you have to be on top of your game. I had to kick one of my best performers to the curve. She wanted 150 no bend. I just can not see paying that much when Haitian girl will fuck your brains out for 3000 and be gratefull.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2481376]LOL. What was she saying before she came?
Yeah, that would have been from me, yet I am the crazy one here according to some. Now that you have first hand experience, come on over to the crazy side of at-fault mongers that must be doing something wrong.
What is SLT? I will drink to "Not my League![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2481376]LOL. What was she saying before she came?
Yeah, that would have been from me, yet I am the crazy one here according to some. Now that you have first hand experience, come on over to the crazy side of at-fault mongers that must be doing something wrong.
What is SLT? I will drink to "Not my League![/QUOTE]I texted her 4000 p. But she did not answer.
Something went wrong and it will not happen again. Today I'm taking a break and tomorrow I'm starting getting serious with this Business like I was in my first days.
SLT is LT over a few days. So keeping her for a few Days. Astonishment that you didn't know that.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.
I Heard somewhere that this could happen.
But never thought I would get it. In Germany I pay 130 for an hour so in comparison this is still a bargain but Not what I wanted to pay.
In peso she asks for 7500 and not less.
I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.[/QUOTE]It's not ridiculous that's how the hyenas eat. Just when you thought you had a good rapport. Bam! She tries to play you stupid. Risking burning her bridge for future business. She puts it all on the line gambling that you will give in to her outrageous price. In a sense you got to respect her. She think she has laid her web down deep enough and now it's time to trap a fool! She knew exactly what time it was, she knew your dick was hard for her, and she knew your time was limited. All night price $150 Non-negotiable. You got to love her gangster!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.
I Heard somewhere that this could happen.
But never thought I would get it. In Germany I pay 130 for an hour so in comparison this is still a bargain but Not what I wanted to pay.
In peso she asks for 7500 and not less.
I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.[/QUOTE]You got to avoid getting into these situations. It's not necessary. They can elevate to the drama where everybody gets into the act, even security, the police, and the bystanstanders, tut tutting and cluck clucking about your misadventures. We see it far too often.
Your trouble starts at "she shows up half hour before curfew and demands $150". That just doesn'why happen out of the blue.
Like complaining about a taxi or moto fare once you are at your destination, a large tab run up in a clip joint, or a hoe in your room who says you owe her more, or the guy who meets a strange chicas girl's family in a restaurant, or the guy who leaves his shit on the dresser with a stange hoe he just pick up off the street, while he's taking a crap, or in the shower. It will not end well.
You'll only get sympathy from the usual suspects who roll like you, and believe me, they are not the majority in Sosua (oustide this Sosua "complaint desk" forum, that is, LOL).
But if why'all continue to blame the "barracudas", and not adjust your own behaviour, you are destined to join the chronic complainers, terminally disappointed, and give.
My advice to you below, was to offer her 2500 plus a propina for good service, which puts YOU in control, and let the hoe be left to take it or leave it!
My advice to you is not to dwell in the sympathy vote here from fellow losers here, the aforementioned tut tutters, and cluck cluckers, but to take some constructive advice from posters who have learned how to roll happily and successfully in Sosua. The real "next level" the vets talk about, begins with looking in the mirror.
It's supposed to be a vacation!
Good luck!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2481376]Yeah, that would have been from me, yet I am the crazy one here according to some. Now that you have first hand experience, come on over to the crazy side of at-fault mongers that must be doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]You telling us what this guy is doing is right? If he is paying you to defend him, I have nothing to say but for heaven's sake, it ain't too f. ing complicated when you meet a shark. What about good old fashioned " no thanks"? That is not so difficult!
Hi all,
I've been looking at a place to stay for 1-2 week to do diving, relax and monger. Sadly, I'll be traveling alone as my friends are all still working and can't take any time right now. It's been a pretty hectic few months.
I was thinking of going to Sosua because the dives sound beginner friendly and read this thread to learn about the non-diving part. I get the feeling that Sosua is not recommended if you don't know your way around (and I've never been to DR or the region).
Is that the case and if yes, any recommendations?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2481376]LOL.
What is SLT? I will drink to "Not my League![/QUOTE]Mr. E, these folks don't know anything about 808, LOL!
I was thinking of going to Sosua for 1-2 weeks to decompress (diving + mongering) as it's been a couple of hard months. It would be my first time in DR and reading this forum, I get the feeling that it might not be a good idea to start there. Am I wrong?
Any suggestion on where to start a DR vacation with both diving and mongering available?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2481204]There are a lot of hardcore girls on the street if you are not clear about what you are paying look out. The girls consider what they do their job. You are their client. Striking a fair price is serious business for both of you. The curfew make things harder. You never keep a girl all night unless you test ride her. It sucks having a girl all night who you have no connection with. As long as the the curfew is on guys have to be on point.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481398]
SLT is LT over a few days. So keeping her for a few Days. Astonishment that you didn't know that.[/QUOTE]I've been in this game and on these forums a LONG time and I never heard of SLT either.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481308]She comes at 4:20 pm when the curfew Starts at 5 pm and then asks for 150 $ LT.
I Heard somewhere that this could happen.
But never thought I would get it. In Germany I pay 130 for an hour so in comparison this is still a bargain but Not what I wanted to pay.
In peso she asks for 7500 and not less.
I will Not repeat and No SLT for me, because this is Not my League.[/QUOTE]Spend time on Facebook and you can fill your phone with girls from Puerto Plata that will gladly come to Sosua for 2000ST and 3500 TLN, I just raised my TLN price to 3500,was 3000,not because I was asked to but because I have a little compassion and with the exchange rate so good my out of pocket expense for pussy has actually gone down over the last few years.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481606]Spend time on Facebook and you can fill your phone with girls from Puerto Plata that will gladly come to Sosua for 2000ST and 3500 TLN, I just raised my TLN price to 3500,was 3000,not because I was asked to but because I have a little compassion and with the exchange rate so good my out of pocket expense for pussy has actually gone down over the last few years.[/QUOTE]I think I'm kind of the same. While it's nice to have un mil Chicas on my team; I rarely give it. Even if we agreed on it in the pass. The current exchange rate is showing love to the American dollar. I show little love back. Now, If I am negotiation I may start off with 1500 pesos instead of 1000. However some of my ex Pat friends are still giving 500 pesos for their chicas.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2481439]You telling us what this guy is doing is right?[/QUOTE]In a couple of instances he invited a chick over and they agreed on or he had sent a price before the chick came (in writing.) When the chick arrived or after services were performed they changed the price on him. And in neither case did the price change to his favor, but it changed to the females' favor. Yeah. Maybe what this guy is doing is not right. Has nothing to do with the chicks.
The thing is that over the years I have read his reports in the Thailand and Philippines threads. Never any kind of problems. He just shows up in Sosua and shit is falling apart because of something he is doing? Yeah, okay.
Reminds me of the time when I met a chick at the walk up spot with hot dogs and shit. I took a picture of her and said now I have this to show the police if you decide to make problems later. Any other place a chick would have kept on her best behavior; but this is the Sue we are talking about. They can't be bargained with; they can't be reasoned with; they don't feel pity or remorse or... People get tired of that bullshit when they are trying to make a fair transaction.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481605]I've been in this game and on these forums a LONG time and I never heard of SLT either.[/QUOTE]OK. I thought I learned it from here. Then it was from an other forum.
SLT means Super Long Time = over a few days.
Today the chick who offered me BBFS and wiped my cum from her Ass on my bed contacted me.
I thought I could try it and today she was really nice!
With Kissing, cuddling, some nice talk and BBFSCIP.
She milked me dry with her Pussy muscles.
I think she got the hint that Last Time I was Not satisfied with her Service and delivered better.
She asked for Repeat which will happen.
Put 2500 p in her purse Like before without any comments.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481606]Spend time on Facebook and you can fill your phone with girls from Puerto Plata that will gladly come to Sosua for 2000ST and 3500 TLN, I just raised my TLN price to 3500,was 3000,not because I was asked to but because I have a little compassion and with the exchange rate so good my out of pocket expense for pussy has actually gone down over the last few years.[/QUOTE]I prefer to take Girls face to face which is enough possible here.
I tried Badoo but it bored me very fast. Then I prefer from the street.
I have some days left and will try it to do it better now.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2481619]I think I'm kind of the same. While it's nice to have un mil Chicas on my team; I rarely give it. Even if we agreed on it in the pass. The current exchange rate is showing love to the American dollar. I show little love back. Now, If I am negotiation I may start off with 1500 pesos instead of 1000. However some of my ex Pat friends are still giving 500 pesos for their chicas.[/QUOTE]Just remember when the exchange rate goes the other way and you're getting less for your dollar. The girls will be expecting the same amount. They don't care what you get for your dollar.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2481719]Just remember when the exchange rate goes the other way and you're getting less for your dollar. The girls will be expecting the same amount. They don't care what you get for your dollar.[/QUOTE]I cannot control expectations. I only control what I give.
Thats why you should give the same amount. If you want to give more. Give it randomly. Make no association between the sex and the gift. Then they never expect more for sex. They just think you're a swell guy.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2481733]I cannot control expectations. I only control what I give.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2481719]Just remember when the exchange rate goes the other way and you're getting less for your dollar. The girls will be expecting the same amount. They don't care what you get for your dollar.[/QUOTE]I think it goes the same way when you get more for your dollar. You pay the same in local currency. Girls don't care what you get for the dollar.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2481736]Thats why you should give the same amount. If you want to give more. Give it randomly. Make no association between the sex and the gift. Then they never expect more for sex. They just think you're a swell guy.[/QUOTE]Care about a Chica's expectations. Always pay her the same amount. (I used to pay per performance) Give more randomly. Care about what she thinks after I'm paying her to leave. Any Other non-solicited advice coach?
Just kidding my man but seriously you are telling a Sergeant major about the military. We can exchange strategies but I dont need advice about how to deal with my Chicas
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2481743]I think it goes the same way when you get more for your dollar. You pay the same in local currency. Girls don't care what you get for the dollar.[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised, LOL. The USA Dollar is king here, and currency exchange is a big source of income for locals in tourist towns.
As an expat I'm constantly pleasantly surprised at the resourcefulness of the average DR chica. Street smart they are. (Sosua and BC hardcores that end up on the street, are the exception, not the rule).
My regular has no formal schooling to speak of, but when it comes to plain common sense, she could buy and sell the Prague Press Attache, the International Lawyer and the International Education PhD I had long term normal relationships with.
She can cook, dress and prepare a fresh caught fish, bring me shorts and tees from La Pulga, that always fit perfectly and are comfortable and look cool, for a few pesos. I love her hands, working hands, with short natural nails and always the odd cut or burn, and natural sweet smelling hair.
We do a shop together before she goes home, and I look at what she puts in the cart. Soaps, cooking oil, giant bags of rice and flour and cereal. No prepared foods or sugary snacks.
They can tell you the going rate of the dollar, when it's going to rain, how to eat well on the cheap, heal common ailments, and laugh at their politicians, because they figured out a long time ago that they are all crooks, and most of all, how to be genuinely happy.
Same with the guys, they can get you anything you need, repair anything, and bring it to your door with a smile, for a few pesos.
I think that a lot of the problems mongers have here is underestimating them and figuring they can easily outwit them. LOL.
Yesterday evening the chica Who I fucked with in the morning texts me at 7:30 PM that she missed to get her Last Ride to her home in Puerto Plata and is stuck in Sosua.
Then she asks me if she could sleep with me and how much I would pay her.
I asked her why should I pay her for sleeping? How could an hoe come to the idea that I pay her for sleeping in my room because she is stuck up?
I would only pay for sex.
So we agreed for 4500 and that I want two rounds for that.
It didn't end well and in the end I really paid her for sleeping in my room.
In the early morning I fucked her once BBFSCIP.
2 hours again I wanted to fuck her again. She said I'm loco. She is Not an horse and that her Pussy Hurts.
When I want to fuck more I should Look for an other chica.
I did that immediately and kicked her out paying these agreed 4500 p.
I'm tired of this BS and don't want to have more discussions and drama.
I really feel like an idiot.
To win with this shit you have to be more ice cold as they are.
I never was the TL Type of Guy. Whats the Idea of that?
Why should I pay a Chic to sleep in my Room?
Especially here?
In Th or PH I did this a few Times. It was OK with sleeping arms in arms. Really GFE.
Here she sleeps on her Side of the bed turned away from you and demands payments for that.
And in the morning she was nice but until the evening she changed her Attitude completely.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2481719]Just remember when the exchange rate goes the other way and you're getting less for your dollar.[/QUOTE]Not likely in my mongering lifetime for many reasons.
Today I had Luck and got I very nice Session wit an 18 year old dark Haitian who talked to me when I was sitting at Kings and drinking a Water in the Noon.
I offered her 2000 p which she accepted. I was a bit skeptical about her age, but the Reception at Plaza Europa did good Work and checked her very intense.
In the Room she was very sweet and affectionate with kisses, hugging and was sucking me how much I wanted. When I told her to stop because I wanted to fuck she was actually sad, that she could not suck more haha. BJ was so so, she needs to practice a bit, but was willing to please. She had a nice tiny Body with an flat stomach and was a bit Hairy on her private Parts.
I fucked her in different Positions, but despite her being so nice and tight I needed some time (this is week two of my sex vacation, so no wonder).
But she never complains and took everything from me.
I have no Complaints here. Will Repeat.
Good that nice Sessions can still happen and not all are so Ice cold Hardcore Scammers.
BTW I saw today a Group of LB walking on PC. I was happy that this Place is free of "them" but they seem also to exist here.
It seems that Gays are also coming here and are demanding them.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481843]Yesterday evening the chica Who I fucked with in the morning texts me at 7:30 PM that she missed to get her Last Ride to her home in Puerto Plata and is stuck in Sosua.
Then she asks me if she could sleep with me and how much I would pay her.
I asked her why should I pay her for sleeping? How could an hoe come to the idea that I pay her for sleeping in my room because she is stuck up?
I would only pay for sex.
So we agreed for 4500 and that I want two rounds for that.
It didn't end well and in the end I really paid her for sleeping in my room.
In the early morning I fucked her once BBFSCIP.
2 hours again I wanted to fuck her again. She said I'm loco. She is Not an horse and that her Pussy Hurts.
When I want to fuck more I should Look for an other chica.[/QUOTE]Business is business.
Unless you are running a homeless shelter, I assume you deducted the room rent?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2481620]The thing is that over the years I have read his reports in the Thailand and Philippines threads. Never any kind of problems. He just shows up in Sosua and shit is falling apart because of something he is doing? Yeah, okay.[/QUOTE]I hardly know anyone on this forum so I have no preconceived notion about someone. I have been to Thailand 40+ times, (stayed at Hyatt Erawan ever since they opened), have had bad experiences in Patpong and I thought I knew the bloody street. I also had very satisfying experiences there. A few years back, a woman picked my pocket in Boca Chica, a first ever picking pocket and a first bad experience in the DR. Moral of the story, it would be inane pointing finger at the sharks, if you decide to swim with them, at least in my book.
Got to Sosua via Santiago on Sunday. The plane landed at 11 and I was out of the terminal in 5 minutes. I had my COVID test report which no one asked for. They have beefed up their health report though, with a lot of probing questions, including your phone number, email and stay place.
Went to the bus station to take a bus to Sosua. Metro was closed. Went to Caribe. The guy told me that the last bus was at 1. 00 PM and it was full. Go figure! Took an Uber over the mountain road.
The days have been very beautifully bright but also very hot. There are some chicks but when I visit the main st, it is curfew time and everyone is scrambling. The 7 PM thing is a real dampener, not for the paucity of women but because it is impossible to hang out, have dinner and chat. Hopefully by Christmas time, that would be over.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2481619]Now, If I am negotiation I may start off with 1500 pesos instead of 1000. However some of my ex Pat friends are still giving 500 pesos for their chicas.[/QUOTE]According to the man above, your expat friends are more in line to how it is supposed to be, while all y'all other mfs have been drastically overpaying.
Chicas are chicas, like coffee is coffee.
You can get a coffee from a dirty old gas station for a buck, and spill it on your pants and car seat, while trying to get the lid off!
Or you can pay a little more and sit in Starbucks with a fresh "Coffee of the World", and imagine what that librarian lady across from you, in the horn rimmed glasses, with her long hair in a bun, reading a book, looks like when she loses the glasses and lets her hair down while she's blowing you. Will she look up and smile? You read that book, should you ask her what she thinks of it?
I seen lots of pictures posted here of chicas, where I would consider 500 pesos too much.
Overpaying is in the mind of the beholder, LOL.
IMHO.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481843]Yesterday evening the chica Who I fucked with in the morning texts me at 7:30 PM that she missed to get her Last Ride to her home in Puerto Plata and is stuck in Sosua.
Then she asks me if she could sleep with me and how much I would pay her.
I asked her why should I pay her for sleeping? How could an hoe come to the idea that I pay her for sleeping in my room because she is stuck up?
So we agreed for 4500.
It didn't end well and in the end I really paid her for sleeping in my room.
In the early morning I fucked her once BBFSCIP.
2 hours again I wanted to fuck her again. She said I'm loco.
I did that immediately and kicked her out paying these agreed 4500 p.[/QUOTE]I really feel like an idiot. IMHO You know what you did wrong. Thats why the man in the mirror is feeling like an idiot. But don't down yourself because a lot of us honest people get shammed in those type of situations. We honestly intend on paying them the full amount with only expectations of good service. Regardless of whether they give us good service or not they expect us to pay the agreed amount. Many of us have seen the recent video circulating with the chica acting a fool on a gringo because he didn't want to pay her the full amount of $200 when she cut his time short. She wasnt settling for anything less regardless.
Some of us in this room would have act on the fact that she's lost her ride very differently. You let her misses ride become a good payday $. For most chicas in the Su if they were getting 4500 pesos per night, they wouldn't go home until their twats were swollen and monthly cycle on. It wasnt a Jedi mind trick but the games Street play chica on gringos they think they can get away with it. I know it wasnt the money that really upset you. It was the fact that she took over the money agreement, came short on her job performance, invaded your space, then acted as if you had a problem after her sleeping problem was solved. She convince you to let her play you. The funny thing is I bet she's going to call you again.
I keep saying the women in the DR like good guys but they don't respect them. They respect masculinity and men that show theyre in control. You don't have to be ice cold with them but you have to have their respect.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481895]Not likely in my mongering lifetime for many reasons.[/QUOTE]You caught that too. I've been here for about seven years. I have seen the dollar value drop from a range of $. 10 two $. 30 on rare occasions. I've also seen it grow from 36 to $1 Us dollar to what we are currently experiencing 58 to $1. I didn't want to antagonize his total comments because I felt he was sincere.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2481843]Yesterday evening the chica Who I fucked with in the morning texts me at 7:30 PM that she missed to get her Last Ride to her home in Puerto Plata and is stuck in Sosua.
Then she asks me if she could sleep with me and how much I would pay her.
I asked her why should I pay her for sleeping? How could an hoe come to the idea that I pay her for sleeping in my room because she is stuck up?
I would only pay for sex.
So we agreed for 4500 and that I want two rounds for that.
It didn't end well and in the end I really paid her for sleeping in my room.
In the early morning I fucked her once BBFSCIP.
2 hours again I wanted to fuck her again. She said I'm loco. She is Not an horse and that her Pussy Hurts.
When I want to fuck more I should Look for an other chica.
I did that immediately and kicked her out paying these agreed 4500 p.
I'm tired of this BS and don't want to have more discussions and drama.
I really feel like an idiot.
To win with this shit you have to be more ice cold as they are.
I never was the TL Type of Guy. Whats the Idea of that?
Why should I pay a Chic to sleep in my Room?
Especially here?
In Th or PH I did this a few Times. It was OK with sleeping arms in arms. Really GFE.
Here she sleeps on her Side of the bed turned away from you and demands payments for that.
And in the morning she was nice but until the evening she changed her Attitude completely.[/QUOTE]Asking how much you would pay her to sleep was a big clue. I would have told her no. In general I smash them and send them along, because in general that is what they come for. I have a couple of exceptions, but I've been coming a long time. Don't beat yourself up, now you know what to avoid. We've all played our dues to the game bro. Don't sweat it too much.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2482203]
Or you can pay a little more and sit in Starbucks with a fresh "Coffee of the World", and imagine what that librarian lady across from you, in the horn rimmed glasses, with her long hair in a bun, reading a book, looks like when she loses the glasses and lets her hair down while she's blowing you. Will she look up and smile? You read that book, should you ask her what she thinks of it?
IMHO.[/QUOTE]Too funny, I have the same librarian fantasies. Had a young librarian assistant pick Me up me up many years ago while I was looking for books in the aisle. She had an awesome young bod, worked out with weights and big tits, nice face but had braces. She was 19 and me in my 30's and that many years ago. We partied later that night and once more. Would love a BJ in a library since my youngest days and still do but doubtful now.
Anyway, thanks for a laugh and trip down memory lane!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482249]The funny thing is I bet she's going to call you again.[/QUOTE]They know I'm an Idiot so they ask if they could come again. Of Course!
Today the one who I paid for sleeping in my bed asked me if she can come again. I'm so ashamed of my self that I didn't even answer.
The other one who I paid 7500 LT also asks me. She asks me and calls me all the time. I maybe response once a day, but she didn't give up.
Today she came over for 2500 p ST which was nice with BBFSCIP. She tried to convince me for Overnight but I didn't want. I'm too tired of these Hoes.
But hey for ST she is nice. I have already lost this LT Money and cannot get it back again. But in ST she delivered good Service with DFK.
This is Kind of weird this attraction and repulsion I do with these skanks.
Today in the morning I meet the one who I enjoy so much giving DATY on her again.
She is one of the good providers, who always gave me good service.
This Pic is from her.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482333]They know I'm an Idiot so they ask if they could come again. Of Course!
Today the one who I paid for sleeping in my bed asked me if she can come again. I'm so ashamed of my self that I didn't even answer.
The other one who I paid 7500 LT also asks me. She asks me and calls me all the time. I maybe response once a day, but she didn't give up.
Today she came over for 2500 p ST which was nice with BBFSCIP. She tried to convince me for Overnight but I didn't want. I'm too tired of these Hoes..[/QUOTE]I don't know how you convince her down to 2500 but good fumble recovery. You're learning a lesson some of us agree with. All night sounds good but unless you know you're getting your money worth not worth it. Many of us can afford 7500 however, when comparing what we can get for a test drive, it's not worth having the chica all night.
It was Tom jacking who was the main Vet that taught me about not having random Chicas spend the night. He said his mother wouldn't let him do it. I talked to mine and she told me to listen to his mother.
I occasionally have a all nighter however they know before they walk to my front door my intention of payment is based on their performance. Some of them will still skip BBBJs even my regulars but its cool. I won't forget when it's time for me to pay them to leave. I have no problem dangling 500 to 1000 pesos in front of them telling them that I wanted to give them more but " no tu darme chupa". You didn't give head.
Like brother p said we all go through it. The idiot is the one that doesn’t get it and keeps finding himself back to square one with less money and no lesson learned. That doesn’t seem like you.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482351]I don't know how you convince her down to 2500 but good fumble recovery. You're learning a lesson some of us agree with. All night sounds good but unless you know you're getting your money worth not worth it. Many of us can afford 7500 however, when comparing what we can get for a test drive, it's not worth having the chica all night.
It was Tom jacking who was the main Vet that taught me about not having random Chicas spend the night. He said his mother wouldn't let him do it. I talked to mine and she told me to listen to his mother.
I occasionally have a all nighter however they know before they walk to my front door my intention of payment is based on their performance. Some of them will still skip BBBJs even my regulars but its cool. I won't forget when it's time for me to pay them to leave. I have no problem dangling 500 to 1000 pesos in front of them telling them that I wanted to give them more but " no tu darme chupa". You didn't give head.
Like brother p said we all go through it. The idiot is the one that doesnt get it and keeps finding himself back to square one with less money and no lesson learned. That doesnt seem like you.[/QUOTE]When I fucked her I noticed Something feels not nice. I could Not Stick it in until the end and her Pussy feels weird, somehow Not nice.
I was thinking a few Times it could be a sponge, but then turned away from my thoughts.
But I was right! I fucked her with sponge inside because after 30 min when she lefts my dick Starts hurting.
My glans is Red and chafed. It Hurts!
I needed to apply a cream and Hope it heals until tomorrow. Touching my dick Hurts now.
Of course she declines it, but now I know why she took so Long in the bathroom and closed the door for good.
It was a sponge! I had these last autumn also with a Girl in Pattaya.
It was the Same Feeling as today.
This is a conversation I had with a sexy chica I fell in lust with. This young stallion can get so much out of me if she knew how to play our cards right. The conversation is in Spanish but it's basically me asking her did she just asked me for 5000 pesos? She sent me a voice text asking for 5000. She later went from 5000 to 4000. She then came back with 3500. She's asking for my help and she's coming from near La Vega.
I explain to her I have friends with benefits that I give 1000 to 2000 pesos. I have friends with benefits that I give 2000 tln. Why would I pay her 3500 when I don't keep her past 30 minutes. I passed on her proposal. Now she's coming for 2500. Guess what, I would've gave that to her anyway to help with her travel expenses. (All voluntary) When I first met she earned 2000 and future repeats. Each time she tries to go up on the price. Each time she leaves with what I was planning on giving her. I really want her so the extra $10 I had to charge to my desires. She did good she got me to go up 500 extra pesos. Will she get something extra? Maybe, It depends on her performance.
I don't just talk the talk.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482362]When I fucked her I noticed Something feels not nice. I could Not Stick it in until the end and her Pussy feels weird, somehow Not nice.
My glans is Red and chafed. It Hurts!
It was a sponge! [/QUOTE]So, you hurt your dick fucking a chica with a sponge!
Please tell me you are fucking with us!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482362]When I fucked her I noticed Something feels not nice. I could Not Stick it in until the end and her Pussy feels weird, somehow .
It was the Same Feeling as today.[/QUOTE]Well at least you have experience in Such matters. This is my first time ever hearing a chica intentionally left a sponge inside of her prior to sexual intercourse! Torture!128293;.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482416]Well at least you have experience in Such matters. This is my first time ever hearing a chica intentionally left a sponge inside of her prior to sexual intercourse! Torture!.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe that I'm the only one Who had sex with a woman Who had a sponge inside.
Did you guys never Heard of a sponge they can Stick inside so they can have sex during Menstruation without blood?
Comon you are all experienced and never Heard or really never noticed that?
And yes it Hurts my dick because it took me mucho tiempo to come and I fucked this sponge too Long.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482416]Well at least you have experience in Such matters. This is my first time ever hearing a chica intentionally left a sponge inside of her prior to sexual intercourse! Torture!128293;.[/QUOTE]I would not put that past DR girls at all. I have experienced it mainly in SEA. Girls do it to reduce the wear and tear on their pussies arising from getting a thorough seeing to. Well endowed guys will notice it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2482491]I would not put that past DR girls at all. I have experienced it mainly in SEA. Girls do it to reduce the wear and tear on their pussies arising from getting a thorough seeing to. Well endowed guys will notice it.[/QUOTE]I don't know how well endowed you have to be to notice a chica has a sponge Taking up space in her vagina while you're hitting it.
I brought some work with me this time. Stuff I can do over the internet. Of course, to have a video conference with six others is a challenge given the internet bandwidth but even that worked. Anyway.
I was done at around 4 yesterday in the afternoon. It is very hot and bright at that hour. I went to lie down and then a girl texted. I had met her first time the day before, soon to be 21, color India, rather pretty-face but saggy tits. The first time, despite the sucking etc, I could not hold my dick up and so that was that, I let her go. You know when you meet one that does not know too many tricks in bed as to what she is.
Yesterday, after she texted, I texted her back asking her if she wants to come and see me. Wonder of all wonders. She says yes and after 15 minutes, she is on her way. She came with no make up, a nice long mane of hair and dressed simply. I had a much better experience yesterday and she left happy after about an hour. Isn't it terrific that she lives in la Union, the airport area? Now it would be even better if we could walk out in the evening.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482496]I don't know how well endowed you have to be to notice a chica has a sponge Taking up space in her vagina while you're hitting it.[/QUOTE]I'm not the biggest and I can feel it. When she Puts it in with her Fingers you can feel it with your dick too.
Especially during BBFS. It feels different then Pussy Texture.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482496]I don't know how well endowed you have to be to notice a chica has a sponge Taking up space in her vagina while you're hitting it.[/QUOTE]The last time I encountered one, I pushed it all the way up to her throat. Nice guy me let her finish me with a BJ to push the sponge back down to her uterus. BTW, the birth control sponge works both ways!
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2482396]So, you hurt your dick fucking a chica with a sponge!
Please tell me you are fucking with us![/QUOTE]I guess it wasn't one of those birth control sponges but a SOS scouring dish sponge! Probably sanded down the warts.
Today in the morning I repeated with the one I enjoy DATY so much on her. Sadly this was Our Last Time.
It took me really Long and I could not cum during CFS. She started with Fake moaning which Not helps me at all because I hate it and it disturbs me.
I also noticed a bit blood but didn't care.
She reminded me that I should Leche.
But I said its OK because I can Not finish.
So we ended the Session. She also noticed the blood and was giving excuses.
I gave her 2500 Like Always and on what she agreed.
Then she started that she needs minimum 1000 more because she needs a new Phone and Has things to pay.
Why should I care?
I said I don't have more Money Here. I need to go downstairs and change something at reception.
On the way down she was making Breaks for voice Mails.
I took my Chance and start moving faster. Out of the Hotel and run to a Side street.
Immediately blocked her on Whatsapp and waited 15 min before I went back to the hotel.
Yeah I know its funny. I chickened out like a fool.
But it solved the problem. No drama and no more paying. I will Not do this again. They can search an other Idiot for that.
I'm so happy when I leave on Saturday.
This place is not for me.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482484]I cannot believe that I'm the only one Who had sex with a woman Who had a sponge inside.
Did you guys never Heard of a sponge they can Stick inside so they can have sex during Menstruation without blood?
[/QUOTE]Exactly. It has nothing to do with birth control, or wear and tear? but to soak up the blood so they can still fuck guys that may be grossed out by blood.
I'd hate to be in the room when they pull that puppy out. Jeez!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2482549]Exactly. It has nothing to do with birth control, or wear and tear? but to soak up the blood so they can still fuck guys that may be grossed out by blood.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2482491]Well endowed guys will notice it.[/QUOTE]Whew! I least I won't notice it!
With my luck lately, my chica would have some old damn kitchen sponge stuffed away!
In all these years of thrusting in and out, I have never come across such a thing (and TomJackin, you were funny with your quips and photo). What will they invent next? Thank God, I won't have to figure out.
Had a woman at my place today, came at 11.30 - who I ate and drank with. Two beers, for lunch, after which, we did the deed and I slept for a while, next to her. She then washed the dishes including the left overs from last night and the kitchen was sparkling clean. I then received a business phone call which lasted 40 minutes; she lay down next to me on the sofa, completely naked as was I and fell asleep. At 3. 30 the Sun was less fiery and so we sat outside on the patio, I with a cup of tea, followed by a cigar. Her mom texted asking her to get back because of her 6 month old baby. She made no mention of her leaving. At 5.00 PM I finally told her to get ready and so she got dressed and left. She would be back on Saturday.
Ho-hum!
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2482535]............She reminded me that I should Leche............[/QUOTE]I really hate it when those Dominican pros say to me: "leche papi". A clean well groomed man like me! Those two words are the single greatest reason why I have severely reduced my trips to the DR. US hookers are a little better, they say: "cum for me baby". I still hate it.
Real talk these girls are fucking for money. They are not interested in spending time with you. They want you to come so they can find someone else to pay them. If you are taking longer then they planned you are messing up her business opportunity. Leche popi means it is time to go. Sex with working girls is all bussiness. Play your role and keeo it moving.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2482756]I really hate it when those Dominican pros say to me: "leche papi". A clean well groomed man like me! Those two words are the single greatest reason why I have severely reduced my trips to the DR. US hookers are a little better, they say: "cum for me baby". I still hate it.[/QUOTE]
Its a meat processing plant now. Hey, we've been doing it to them for so long we taught them the game. All the fake ballers are to blame too. Especially the young dudes. They're not trying to outbid each other for the pussy. Its to outshine the other group. The closest thing you can come to GFE now is with a sweet Haitian girl, who will take care of you-but in a twist, they are really trying to outshine the Dominican girls LMAO! Become a prisoner of war!
Sosua is never going to be that way again. Either adapt or put some time in yourself and learn some decent Spanish and get some bachata lessons and go to other towns.
I took the bus from PP to the cap-in those 4 hours on the road I saw an endless supply of puss-waves and waves of women. Hire a goon if you must but the inner river towns are diamond mines!! The girls are still home bred and not street tough at all!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2482852]Real talk these girls are fucking for money. They are not interested in spending time with you. They want you to come so they can find someone else to pay them. If you are taking longer then they planned you are messing up her business opportunity. Leche popi means it is time to go. Sex with working girls is all bussiness. Play your role and keeo it moving.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2482852]Real talk these girls are fucking for money. They are not interested in spending time with you. They want you to come so they can find someone else to pay them. If you are taking longer then they planned you are messing up her business opportunity. Leche popi means it is time to go. Sex with working girls is all bussiness. Play your role and keeo it moving.[/QUOTE]Facts! LOL. I actually have had really good sex in sosua when I was there last year. Old Kool is right. I think the key is too negotiate what you want and to not talk her down too low. Low ballin a chica and expecting good service doesn't work. I say mi amor, sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. Me gusta toda tranquilo y suave. No me gusta la prisa. It works more often than not.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2482876] Me gusta todo tranquilo y suave. No me gusta la prisa.[/QUOTE]Many "disappointed" people on this forum could print that and try it out! They just might get lucky.
Old Kool is also absolutely correct. Expecting the women on the street who only have one resource. Their time, both in terms of hours and years in terms of youth, will have to be judicious as to how they use it, to maximize their benefit. Expecting anything else, is deluding oneself.
[QUOTE=EddieLima;2482864]Its a meat processing plant now. Hey, we've been doing it to them for so long we taught them the game. All the fake ballers are to blame too. Especially the young dudes. They're not trying to outbid each other for the pussy. Its to outshine the other group. The closest thing you can come to GFE now is with a sweet Haitian girl, who will take care of you-but in a twist, they are really trying to outshine the Dominican girls LMAO! Become a prisoner of war!
Sosua is never going to be that way again. Either adapt or put some time in yourself and learn some decent Spanish and get some bachata lessons and go to other towns.
I took the bus from PP to the cap-in those 4 hours on the road I saw an endless supply of puss-waves and waves of women. Hire a goon if you must but the inner river towns are diamond mines!! The girls are still home bred and not street tough at all![/QUOTE]Great summary sir, I've been saying the same thing in posts over the years. Sosua street girls are not GFE girls, mostly hourly and fast in and out. The Haitian girls have sustained me on my brief trips to Sosua recently. The outter cities have the keepers if you can speak basic Spanish and Latin dance. The busses are great for meeting girls.
Also let me give respect to expat Sean who recently passed in Sosua, condolences to the family.
Also my boy Dean Cole recently purchased the restaurant over club Miami in Puerto Plata on the Malecon. He opened up yesterday. Good luck bro.
Puerto plata is experiencing a realestate boom as many realtors are now developers, be careful guys.
Parking is being stopped on the malecon in Puerto Plata according to a few reports from friends.
Rumor is that the curfew will be relaxed to 8 pm soon then midnight after that.
As far as girls stuffing pussies, I've heard about it once. A girl was on her period so she pushed the Tampax in very far so you won't know.
Its a new facility being done by Ahnvee that the owners have invested millions, allegedly. Not sure about that end surviving. Mayor Willie owns Classicos and that will always outshine Ahnvee. In fact Ahnvee is under major pressure from the authorities, as reported by one of the owners. Police raided Ahnvee last week.
Beau Rakes has a new beach bar and flip flop is still there.
Poor Sosua, even the Sosua Youtubers are at each others throats. Our paradise is now just a beach and tacky girls who can't be trusted. Even Sosua beach has that "What happened" feel to it as everyone is shell shocked.
And the good news. The govt will pay for tourists heath insurance. Old airnbn owners are now calling me whereas before I always had to call them. Deals are there but you have to get out and walk around, then play the Dominican shuffle as they stay high and you go low. Soon we will see improve testing and a tested vaccine should come around Thanksgiving. Christmas is lost this year but New Years will be extra special as we say goodbye to 2020 and covid-19 bullshit. We've had 6 months of bad news hopefully we can get 6 months of good news now to move forward.
Happy 2021 fellas as we will get back to normalcy.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2482852]Real talk these girls are fucking for money. They are not interested in spending time with you. They want you to come so they can find someone else to pay them. If you are taking longer then they planned you are messing up her business opportunity. Leche popi means it is time to go. Sex with working girls is all bussiness. Play your role and keeo it moving.[/QUOTE]Damn. So now punters are making excuses for hookers to rush and not to give GFE. Taking longer? That would mean something if the chicks didn't start saying leche papi 3 minutes into the session; especially when you negotiated 2 hours for 2500 pesos. Ask them to go to the bar and drink free beer with you after you have busted. I bet they don't let business opportunity get in the way of that.
In the casas you get 1 hour for less than 1500 pesos and you are not rushed by that leche papi shit. They expect you to enjoy the 1 hour you paid for. Maybe casa chicks are not worried about business opportunity? Or maybe it is because mostly local guys who they can't pull that bs on are the ones going to the casas?
Soon you will see chicks on the streets of Sosua walking around with their hand out expecting dudes to just put 1000 or 2000 pesos in it. They will no longer need to sell pussy. You are already practically giving away money with doo-doo service in return as is.
Next up: German restaurant on the strip telling customers to eat your shit and get the fuck out. You are messing up our business opportunity by taking longer to eat than we planned.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2482756]I really hate it when those Dominican pros say to me: "leche papi". A clean well groomed man like me! Those two words are the single greatest reason why I have severely reduced my trips to the DR. US hookers are a little better, they say: "cum for me baby". I still hate it.[/QUOTE]You don't say! I hate this fucking "leche papi," or rather my dick hates it because it goes limp in the next 30-60 seconds guaranteed. My last visit I told one street skunk explicitly not to use these words or I'd kick her out without paying. She did refrain from "leche papi," but still managed to fuck me (sadly, not in a good way).
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482366]This is a conversation I ha
I don't just talk the talk.[/QUOTE]Instead of her going higher every time with the same girl. Why don't you go lower. I am laughing at the guy on this board paying 2500 p all the time. With business in this town. Should be going the other way. If last year was 1500 p during happy hour. Plus 2000 p for short time after 9 pm and 3000 p for long time. What with the current prices. There are not any customer in Sosua. So prices have gone up. WHAT?
Plus a guy on this board said quality is not that great. Somebody explain to me what is happening. Hey guys. You are the boss. Lower your prices. You control with nobody in town.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481606]Spend time on Facebook and you can fill your phone with girls from Puerto Plata that will gladly come to Sosua for 2000ST and 3500 TLN, I just raised my TLN price to 3500,was 3000,not because I was asked to but because I have a little compassion and with the exchange rate so good my out of pocket expense for pussy has actually gone down over the last few years.[/QUOTE]WHY?
Times are tough. You should lower your prices?? These girls have no money coming in. So any money is a bonus. So why should you give them more money. They would be happy with less money is better than zero money.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2482964]Instead of her going higher every time with the same girl. Why don't you go lower. I am laughing at the guy on this board paying 2500 p all the time. With business in this town. Should be going the other way. If last year was 1500 p during happy hour. Plus 2000 p for short time after 9 pm and 3000 p for long time. What with the current prices. There are not any customer in Sosua. So prices have gone up. WHAT?
Plus a guy on this board said quality is not that great. Somebody explain to me what is happening. Hey guys. You are the boss. Lower your prices. You control with nobody in town.[/QUOTE]Haha Just come Here by yourself and do it. I thought the same and got an other lesson when here.
For 1500 p you have even more BS and scams. But yeah its possible.
Its always easy talking Things Like that when you sit behind the keyboard.
And BTW at 9 pm you get nothing because curfew Starts at 7 pm.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2482952]You don't say! I hate this fucking "leche papi," or rather my dick hates it because it goes limp in the next 30-60 seconds guaranteed. My last visit I told one street skunk explicitly not to use these words or I'd kick her out without paying. She did refrain from "leche papi," but still managed to fuck me (sadly, not in a good way).[/QUOTE]Yesterday I got mas papi mas and got limp. Also with Fake moaning.
I hate this shit so much.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2481606]I just raised my TLN price to 3500,was 3000,not because I was asked to but because I have a little compassion and with the exchange rate so good my out of pocket expense for pussy has actually gone down over the last few years.[/QUOTE]I do not agree with this guy very much. But with this post I can only say: Respect!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2482952]You don't say! I hate this fucking "leche papi," or rather my dick hates it because it goes limp in the next 30-60 seconds guaranteed. My last visit I told one street skunk explicitly not to use these words or I'd kick her out without paying. She did refrain from "leche papi," but still managed to fuck me (sadly, not in a good way).[/QUOTE]Guys who don't last for more than five minutes will have no problem with leche papi. Only the Dominican putas do it. The Haitian girls never try to stop you before time is up.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2482967]WHY?
Times are tough. You should lower your prices?? These girls have no money coming in. So any money is a bonus. So why should you give them more money. They would be happy with less money is better than zero money.[/QUOTE]I understand your energy my man. I don't remember Happy Hour being 1500 pesos but I get where you going. It's the paradox of progress. We spent all this time and money getting to our Destiination. Once we get there we're short on vacation dealing with chicas that only want to give us the least amount of time, for the most money they can get. The difference between 1500 pesos and 2000 pesos is about $10. The exchange rate is 58 pesos to one dollar. Big advantage for us. Would you hold back $10 over the Chico you really wanted. Whatever your choice is is your call. Me myself it depends on the Chica and the vibe she's giving me. I advise newbies to go for it. They don't have the time or the experience some of us have. Besides you hear some guys paying 3500 pesos short time or $100 (5800 pesos) a night. In a video circulating around; the Chica was offered $200 for the night by a vet. She wasn't willing to settle with $100 after she cut his time short. She went ballistic on him, the security guard, under cover Police. That's the type of money some of these chicas are getting. That's the money some of these guys are paying.
We are not in a financial Economical crunch like they are currently experiencing. The chicas are doubling down because times are harder. They don't need an excuse to ask for more money. They will also double down when times are good. A lot of mongers from other countries have semi- hard adjustments in the Su. The games is same, but the chicas are known to cheat. Changing the time on the clock, giving lousy service, or rushing you to finish. They are their own bosses so there is no one to complain too. The games they try to run are common, endless, and unrational. You go to other places (except Boca Chica) and the Game is more leveled.
You would either have to be well established with your Chica or extremely lucky for a first timer to get GFE. My first time there I was extremely lucky with GFE. I did not know that until two Chicas later of me trying to get the vibes and same energy out of different Chicas.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2483043]You would either have to be well established with your Chica or extremely lucky for a first timer to get GFE. My first time there I was extremely lucky with GFE. I did not know that until two Chicas later of me trying to get the vibes and same energy out of different Chicas.[/QUOTE]The girls on the street waiting to be picked up are very unlikely to give you GFE. I was out yesterday morning at 7.30 for a walk. That is the hour the TLN girls go home. I see a young black lad (with a head cover. Something like the women's tubi), in front of a residence, saying goodbye to the girl who was sitting on a motorbike. The girl was nice looking and it showed that she liked the lad. The boy had a nice smile on him too as he said good bye. I thought to myself that he has had good luck in picking the right one but he too, looking at his face, had the right attitude.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2482967]These girls have no money coming in. So why should you give them more money. [/QUOTE]Because I'm not an asshole that's why. Because like you said, they have no money coming in. If you read all the reports over and over of girls giving bad service etc. ,I get none of that, I get great service, girls spend all day at the beach with me and then fuck my brains out all night for 3500 pesos, I'm happy, they're happy, you sound miserable, who's the winner here?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2482941]Damn. So now punters are making excuses for hookers to rush and not to give GFE. Taking longer? That would mean something if the chicks didn't start saying leche papi 3 minutes into the session; especially when you negotiated 2 hours for 2500 pesos. Ask them to go to the bar and drink free beer with you after you have busted. I bet they don't let business opportunity get in the way of that.
In the casas you get 1 hour for less than 1500 pesos and you are not rushed by that leche papi shit. They expect you to enjoy the 1 hour you paid for. Maybe casa chicks are not worried about business opportunity? Or maybe it is because mostly local guys who they can't pull that bs on are the ones going to the casas?
Soon you will see chicks on the streets of Sosua walking around with their hand out expecting dudes to just put 1000 or 2000 pesos in it. They will no longer need to sell pussy. You are already practically giving away money with doo-doo service in return as is.
Next up: German restaurant on the strip telling customers to eat your shit and get the fuck out. You are messing up our business opportunity by taking longer to eat than we planned.[/QUOTE]Nothing but facts here. I hope the suckers take heed!
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2482964]Instead of her going higher every time with the same girl. Why don't you go lower. I am laughing at the guy on this board paying 2500 p all the time. With business in this town. Should be going the other way. If last year was 1500 p during happy hour. Plus 2000 p for short time after 9 pm and 3000 p for long time. What with the current prices. There are not any customer in Sosua. So prices have gone up. WHAT?
Plus a guy on this board said quality is not that great. Somebody explain to me what is happening. Hey guys. You are the boss. Lower your prices. You control with nobody in town.[/QUOTE]Damn, straight to the point, with KNOWLEDGE. The issue is, some of these guys on this board, are DESPERATE and don't know better. They are just happy some pussy giving female, is paying attention to them.
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The quality is down so average looking girls are getting more play. Guys are on the ground in fewer numbers but there are also fewer girls as welll DR pussy is already cheap. I am not so hard up financially that I have to get 1500 peso pussy. I try to pick girls that are fun to be with. When you low ball a girl do not expect her to be a great lay. 2500 pesos is 43 dollars. I can affoed that and more. I think the quality of the mongers has slipped.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2482964]Instead of her going higher every time with the same girl. Why don't you go lower. I am laughing at the guy on this board paying 2500 p all the time. With business in this town. Should be going the other way. If last year was 1500 p during happy hour. Plus 2000 p for short time after 9 pm and 3000 p for long time. What with the current prices. There are not any customer in Sosua. So prices have gone up. WHAT?
Plus a guy on this board said quality is not that great. Somebody explain to me what is happening. Hey guys. You are the boss. Lower your prices. You control with nobody in town.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2483080]If you read all the reports over and over of girls giving bad service etc. ,I get none of that, I get great service, girls spend all day at the beach with me and then fuck my brains out all night for 3500 pesos, I'm happy, they're happy,[/QUOTE]But the reports of bad service are from chicks that were found in Sosua. If I am correct, you are not sourcing your chicks from Sosua (at least not on the strip anyway) as most visitors would do, so that is an entirely different ballgame. These days other methods tend to fare better than going out to hunt chicks on Pedro Clisante and Dr. Rosen like the days of old (circa 10 years ago).
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2482366]I don't just talk the talk.[/QUOTE]Yes, brother! One of my favorite expressions is: "I talk it like did cause I lived it by the way".
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2370471]I have been going to Sosua since 2011 and it has changed somewhat as I saw in August this year, with few women on the prowl and I mentioned even a policewoman chasing a poor girl trying to hide inside a store. The fact of the matter is that, for me, it changes nothing. So whoever is reading this, especially the US crowd who seem to be more into story telling or wondering, can plan ahead and, what with google translate, it is a no-brainer even for the language challenged. The sky is not falling![/QUOTE]You tell them brother, Preach! Can I get a witness?
Who goes to Sosua for ten days. Writes a one paragraph trip report that does not mention a single price and then talks about the prices that other pay? He must be taking lessons from Mr. ET Phone home as of late.
A good trip report should contain usable intelligence. Sourcing, price, services, good food and drink (if that is important to you) and unusual events / occurrences. Maybe it is my reading compression skills that are challenged? Nah, I don't think so.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2483104]Actually you sound like the loser here, matter of fact, you ARE the Loser and Sucka here.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manizales911;2483080]Because I'm not an asshole that's why. Because like you said, they have no money coming in. If you read all the reports over and over of girls giving bad service etc. ,I get none of that, I get great service, girls spend all day at the beach with me and then fuck my brains out all night for 3500 pesos, I'm happy, they're happy, you sound miserable, who's the winner here?[/QUOTE]My man you are the winner here! Some guys just don't get it. And you got it right Chris H does sound miserable to me. Been a long time since I have been to Sosua. And since this is the Sosua Reports section I cannot say that I am reporting about Sosua. But I really do not experience any of the problems that many others report here. Nor the problems with what chicas are asking for. If I receive a request that is outside of my normal payment schedule for sexual services I simply politely decline. Everyone pays what they want to pay. Doesn't matter what Chris H thinks about it or Mr. ET phone home does either.
What counts is enjoyment. If I pay 200 USD for a tennis racquet and still lose the match what counts is if I enjoyed playing. If you are going to shop bargain basement and you are unhappy with the product then maybe you should upgrade your shopping location.
Just saying!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2483080]Because I'm not an asshole that's why. Because like you said, they have no money coming in. If you read all the reports over and over of girls giving bad service etc. ,I get none of that, I get great service, girls spend all day at the beach with me and then fuck my brains out all night for 3500 pesos, I'm happy, they're happy, you sound miserable, who's the winner here?[/QUOTE]Good response!
Only the suckers whine and will continue to do that.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2483181]Good response!
Only the suckers whine and will continue to do that.[/QUOTE]Sex is one of god's gift to us all, and it should be enjoyably and fun.
I try to remind folks that it's not a Normandy beach landing under fire. LOL.
Sosua is merely Adult Disney sex theme park with a laid out buffet of all kinds of chicas, and like a buffet, or a well stocked bar, just be careful that what you choose is not going to make you throw up later!
If you can't find a happy, affordable drama free session with a beautiful Caribbean cutie, on this island, you should seriously think about taking your hobby somewhere else (or staying where you are!) Don't waste your money!
Only suckers get themselves into telenovela drama over a simple transaction in this vast open air legal brothel.
And misery loves company! LOL.
Given the lockdown says everyone has to be indoors after 6 pm until 6 am the next morning (correct me if I am wrong) I'd like to have a room near / on the beach with a nice view. Any recommendations anyone?
And can someone explain exactly what this curfew means? Are the girls just going home after 6 pm?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2483392]Given the lockdown says everyone has to be indoors after 6 pm until 6 am the next morning (correct me if I am wrong) I'd like to have a room near / on the beach with a nice view. Any recommendations anyone?
And can someone explain exactly what this curfew means? Are the girls just going home after 6 pm?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Sosua is a small town. In that sense, everything is "near" the beach, say within 5 or 15 minutes. From 50 to 80 dollars a day is typical for a decent room in town.
But if you want something on the beach, or with a beach view, they tend to be multiples of that price. There's a few older properties clustered around Alicia beach and the town end of Sosua beach where you can get a room with a view, but they tend to be older properties, with spotty service and reviews. Be interesting to hear other posters experience.
The only decent place that has it all for me is Infiniti Blu, but with a premium on the oceanfront units.
And curfew means you have to be off the streets by the designated time, except for emergencies, (enforced) and things close down before that to give workers, and SW, time to get home before things close up!
[QUOTE=Showdown;2483392]Given the lockdown says everyone has to be indoors after 6 pm until 6 am the next morning (correct me if I am wrong) I'd like to have a room near / on the beach with a nice view. Any recommendations anyone?
And can someone explain exactly what this curfew means? Are the girls just going home after 6 pm?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I think Boca Chica has the same curfew hours as the Sue. On the weekend curfew begins at 5 o'clock. That's 5 PM until 5 AM. Curfew means everyone should be in the house with very rare exceptions. If caught away from your home you could go to jail until the next morning. On the weekdays Curfew begins at 8 o'clock. Same rule applies. However I'm hearing in the Sue they will let you drive in a taxi to your Room from the resort.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2483424]I think Boca Chica has the same curfew hours as the Sue. On the weekend curfew begins at 5 o'clock. That's 5 PM until 5 AM. Curfew means everyone should be in the house with very rare exceptions. If caught away from your home you could go to jail until the next morning. On the weekdays Curfew begins at 8 o'clock. Same rule applies. However I'm hearing in the Sue they will let you drive in a taxi to your Room from the resort.[/QUOTE]That is factual. 7 pm on weekdays and 5 pm on weekends in Sosua. I returned a girl to the street around Ahnvee after the curfew. If I was not half drunk that wouldn't have happen. I would have stayed in Casa Linda but the amount of people on the street near Ahnvee would have you believe there was no curfew. Also girls are using taxis after curfew if guys want to see them. I don't know what the price range would be for after curfew entertainment. But it's available for guys that need some attention after curfew. I was there from 24 August to 3 September.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2483427]That is factual. 7 pm on weekdays and 5 pm on weekends in Sosua. I returned a girl to the street around Ahnvee after the curfew. If I was not half drunk that wouldn't have happen. I would have stayed in Casa Linda but the amount of people on the street near Ahnvee would have you believe there was no curfew. Also girls are using taxis after curfew if guys want to see them. I don't know what the price range would be for after curfew entertainment. But it's available for guys that need some attention after curfew. I was there from 24 August to 3 September.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the correction. I knew it was at 7 PM don't know why I put eight. The good thing is small bars could open up and be close by curfew. The gym are open and so are the beaches.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2483409]Sosua is a small town. In that sense, everything is "near" the beach, say within 5 or 15 minutes. From 50 to 80 dollars a day is typical for a decent room in town.
But if you want something on the beach, or with a beach view, they tend to be multiples of that price. There's a few older properties clustered around Alicia beach and the town end of Sosua beach where you can get a room with a view, but they tend to be older properties, with spotty service and reviews. Be interesting to hear other posters experience.
The only decent place that has it all for me is Infiniti Blu, but with a premium on the oceanfront units.
And curfew means you have to be off the streets by the designated time, except for emergencies, (enforced) and things close down before that to give workers, and SW, time to get home before things close up![/QUOTE]Infiniti Blu looks like my type of place. And the cost is in expensive in my book. Does anyone know are they girl friendly?
So with restaurants and mini marts etc closing at 7 on weekdays and 5 on weekends I guess everyone has to stock up on food etc before they close. I guess the concept of a 24 hours 7-11 etc is dead.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2483658]Infiniti Blu looks like my type of place. And the cost is in expensive in my book. Does anyone know are they girl friendly?
So with restaurants and mini marts etc closing at 7 on weekdays and 5 on weekends I guess everyone has to stock up on food etc before they close. I guess the concept of a 24 hours 7-11 etc is dead.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Infiniti Blu is not chica friendly. Last guy I know that stayed there was only with one chica the whole trip. I recommend the Piero, but ask for a new room. Pm if you want the managers whatsapp. New Garden is closer to the beach if that matters.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2483658]Infiniti Blu looks like my type of place. And the cost is in expensive in my book. Does anyone know are they girl friendly?
So with restaurants and mini marts etc closing at 7 on weekdays and 5 on weekends I guess everyone has to stock up on food etc before they close. I guess the concept of a 24 hours 7-11 etc is dead.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Infiniti Blu is where we stay when my well heeled friend comes to visit. He picks up the tab.
It is chica friendly, as long as you understand the place is a condo development and respect the other guests, and be cool. Not a place for mongers to take over the joint and party loud. We bring a variety of chicas in with us who are also cool, with no problem.
It's more for the laid back individual who wants to enjoy a real relaxed time with a GFE chica who knows how to behave in public.
No drama allowed. LOL.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2482066]Got to Sosua via Santiago on Sunday.
Went to the bus station to take a bus to Sosua. Metro was closed. Went to Caribe. The guy told me that the last bus was at 1. 00 PM and it was full. Go figure! Took an Uber over the mountain road.[/QUOTE]Well there is light at the end of the tunnel or over the mountain range, depending on your preferred route.
"He said that the highway would be 35 kilometers long, and the Santiago-Puerto Plata route will take 30 minutes, while the one from Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata will take two hours. ".
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/09/14/travel-time-in-dominican-republic-between-santo-domingo-and-puerto-plata-will-be-shortened/[/URL]
You can brings girls in but they have time restrictions. You also can find Airbnb appartments at infiniti blu at great prices. There are many very good Airbnbs in Sosua.
A.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2483658]Infiniti Blu looks like my type of place. And the cost is in expensive in my book. Does anyone know are they girl friendly?
So with restaurants and mini marts etc closing at 7 on weekdays and 5 on weekends I guess everyone has to stock up on food etc before they close. I guess the concept of a 24 hours 7-11 etc is dead.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2484031]You can brings girls in but they have time restrictions. You also can find Airbnb appartments at infiniti blu at great prices. There are many very good Airbnbs in Sosua.
A.[/QUOTE]Sosua "Rules" may be a little confusing for the newbie.
When you sign in they have a strict guest policy, but how it is enforced is what matters. If you're cool they'll give you lots of leeway. My buddy always gets the 4 bedroom oceanfront penthouse suite, so they know what's going on.
We have had lots of chicas partying overnight, even one Venezuelan with no ID.
Sosua presents many faces to its visitors.
If you get to know how things work down there, it really is a pussy paradise.
YMMV. LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2484152]Sosua "Rules" may be a little confusing for the newbie.
When you sign in they have a strict guest policy, but how it is enforced is what matters. If you're cool they'll give you lots of leeway. My buddy always gets the 4 bedroom oceanfront penthouse suite, so they know what's going on.
We have had lots of chicas partying overnight, even one Venezuelan with no ID.
Sosua presents many faces to its visitors.
If you get to know how things work down there, it really is a pussy paradise.
YMMV. LOL.[/QUOTE]This looks like a dream! I see that it is important to understand how things move, nothing to do with other experiences that I read in the forum!
[QUOTE=Darelax;2484474]This looks like a dream! I see that it is important to understand how things move, nothing to do with other experiences that I read in the forum![/QUOTE]It's a great place. 4 bedrooms on two open floors and sundecks with barbecue. Unfortunately I can't afford to live there, I'm in more modest digs in town, but I do get to stay there at least once a year. You need to book well in advance for oceanfront.
They do have standard condo units on the street side for around 100 a night, if I recall correctly.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2484152]Sosua "Rules" may be a little confusing for the newbie.[/QUOTE]Very pretty view! Do they have a one bedroom suite overlooking the ocean? There are a couple of buildings overlooking the ocean in front of playa Alicia but I have no contacts. I wonder if those too are for rentals.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2483767]Well there is light at the end of the tunnel or over the mountain range, depending on your preferred route.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Hopefully in my lifetime, I will get to drive using that! LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2483409]Sosua is a small town. In that sense, everything is "near" the beach, say within 5 or 15 minutes. From 50 to 80 dollars a day is typical for a decent room in town.
But if you want something on the beach, or with a beach view, they tend to be multiples of that price. There's a few older properties clustered around Alicia beach and the town end of Sosua beach where you can get a room with a view, but they tend to be older properties, with spotty service and reviews. Be interesting to hear other posters experience.
The only decent place that has it all for me is Infiniti Blu, but with a premium on the oceanfront units.
And curfew means you have to be off the streets by the designated time, except for emergencies, (enforced) and things close down before that to give workers, and SW, time to get home before things close up![/QUOTE]Buddy and I stayed at an amazing 2-story, penthouse in LOS Charamicos with a huge outdoor ocean-view terrace (2 of them actually). Cost about 150, but I'm seeing this condo for 75 now. That's a pure bargain. The price is comparable to a shitty hotel room, only you really get to enjoy your place. Girls loved it.
Also stayed in a pool villa in a gated community (see my report from last year). No issue bringing girls discretely.
Fucking isn't everything. Sipping coffee or wine on a veranda while taking in these world-class views is worth something in my book. That affordable luxury (plus beaches, dining and proximity to NYC) is the main reason why I still keep coming to Sosua.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2484718]Fucking isn't everything.[/QUOTE]I'll write it down in my notes.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2484718]Buddy and I stayed at an amazing 2-story, penthouse in LOS Charamicos with a huge outdoor ocean-view terrace (2 of them actually).[/QUOTE]Do you have contact details? Thanks in advance.
I'm going to make a quick jaunt of it, but I want to make sure I'm not wasting my time. Is it still possible to pick up women there in this age, during the curfew? Are there still bar girls to be had?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2484718]Buddy and I stayed at an amazing 2-story, penthouse in LOS Charamicos with a huge outdoor ocean-view terrace (2 of them actually). Cost about 150, but I'm seeing this condo for 75 now. That's a pure bargain. The price is comparable to a shitty hotel room, only you really get to enjoy your place. Girls loved it.
Also stayed in a pool villa in a gated community (see my report from last year). No issue bringing girls discretely.
Fucking isn't everything. Sipping coffee or wine on a veranda while taking in these world-class views is worth something in my book. That affordable luxury (plus beaches, dining and proximity to NYC) is the main reason why I still keep coming to Sosua.[/QUOTE]A little off the beaten track for the average monger, but Charamicos is a hidden gem. I spend just about every other Sunday there with old family friends, drinking jumbo Presidente on the street, across from the Colmado, loud music, and lots of hot chicas walking by and saying Hello. Cheap beer and wine and lots of paper cups for the locals who congregate. Domingo Sociale!
Except for the masks, it seems like business as usual there. Don't actually recall ever seeing a cop car up those crowded streets.
[QUOTE=Strel75;2484876]I'm going to make a quick jaunt of it, but I want to make sure I'm not wasting my time. Is it still possible to pick up women there in this age, during the curfew? Are there still bar girls to be had?[/QUOTE]I have the same question. Contacted Alicia Beach Hotel and the lady said they are open. I like that hotel because of in front parking space for my rental car and decent rooms. They usually have free fixed breakfast. My plan is to go there in November because usual trips to Asia is put on hold because uncertainties. So are trips to Costa Rica, Panama etc. DR has no flight issues and at the moment apart from the curfews should be okay. Maybe be wifing up a girl for few days is a good idea. Problem is I need bunch of women to screen to wife up one. If the pickings are slim it would be hard. Although since I will have a car and have picked up nice girls from far away from Sosua those are hit and miss.
Just did video CALL with friend posted up in ahnvee. He says quantity and quality were very good. He is a vet and has a good group of pretty chicas.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2484859]Do you have contact details? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]PM sent -.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2485027]A little off the beaten track for the average monger, but Charamicos is a hidden gem. I spend just about every other Sunday there with old family friends, drinking jumbo Presidente on the street, across from the Colmado, loud music, and lots of hot chicas walking by and saying Hello. Cheap beer and wine and lots of paper cups for the locals who congregate. Domingo Sociale!
Except for the masks, it seems like business as usual there. Don't actually recall ever seeing a cop car up those crowded streets.[/QUOTE]Hmm, didn't even occur to me to try and pull girls in Charamicos. Colmado is a supermarket, right? If so, I never saw any lively restaurants in the immediate area, aside from a couple of tiny holes in the wall. Live and learn.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2485311]Hmm, didn't even occur to me to try and pull girls in Charamicos. Colmado is a supermarket, right? If so, I never saw any lively restaurants in the immediate area, aside from a couple of tiny holes in the wall. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]No, you're correct about that.
It's the barrio, not a place to monger but a place to see how the locals live their daily lives, dirt poor, but still able to party and enjoy life. Lots of sex going on all the time, but among locals, and free.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2485311]Hmm, didn't even occur to me to try and pull girls in Charamicos.[/QUOTE]I think many tourists are afraid to venture into Charamicos for safety reasons.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2485311]Colmado is a supermarket, right?[/QUOTE]Colmado is corner store.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2485311]I never saw any lively restaurants in the immediate area, aside from a couple of tiny holes in the wall.[/QUOTE]Experience is the best teacher.
Gentlemen, how does the DR experience stack up in terms of average BBBJ Skill and willingness? Also DATY and Anal? Planning next trip but haven't been to Caribbean yet. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2485398]I think many tourists are afraid to venture into Charamicos for safety reasons.
[/QUOTE]But safety aside, is there anything of a value for a tourist? Are there any watering holes with working girls in Charamicos?
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2485918]Gentlemen, how does the DR experience stack up in terms of average BBBJ Skill and willingness? Also DATY and Anal? Planning next trip but haven't been to Caribbean yet. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Willingness has become a rare commodity in Sosua over the years. Don't expect it from a street FL, then you might be pleasantly surprised. But if you're trying to compare Sosua with, say, Colombia or Brazil, don't even!
You might get a totally different service from a non-pro or semi-pro if you have time to invest.
Just read the forum including my observations as well.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2485952]But safety aside, is there anything of a value for a tourist? Are there any watering holes with working girls in Charamicos?[/QUOTE]Not really, the working girls mostly ply their trade in Sosua. They're "off duty" in CM.
For the families in CM or any other barrio, there's this weird moral thing about not crapping on your own doorstep. It makes you like bad in church on Sunday. LOL.
You need a local connection in CM to get anything there. Same with safety at night, you need to be with locals. I got 11 years with 2 families there, so I never think about it. I just like to hang out there for the street scene on Sundays, and the beach picnics down by the abandoned hotel.
The government just announced that the curfew is being extended but the hours have been reduced,9;00 pm start on weekdays and 7:00 on weekends, still sucks but I'll take it.
Hey members, I am thinking of staying in puerto plata rather than sosua. My thinking is with the curfew and majority use of internet these days should not make a difference. Besides I can always explore sosua in evening and bring her back with me. In addition many girls come from puerto plata. Correct me if I am wrong. I have been to sosua many times. Trying something new. Stupid or can work? Explore tinder and its very active but of course i am still in the U.S.A.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2486092]Hey members, I am thinking of staying in puerto plata rather than sosua. My thinking is with the curfew and majority use of internet these days should not make a difference. Besides I can always explore sosua in evening and bring her back with me. In addition many girls come from puerto plata. Correct me if I am wrong. I have been to sosua many times. Trying something new. Stupid or can work? Explore tinder and its very active but of course i am still in the U.S.A.[/QUOTE]Assuming that you are flying directly into Puerto Plata, isn't the fare the same as going to Colombia if not higher from the good ole USA? Cheapest route from FLL is to Santo Domingo, then caribe tour to puerto plata.
Puerto plata is at about $480 with luggage. Shorter flight. Assuming better weather. My main concerning was choosing housin in Puerto plata over sosua. Could it work and get as much sex. I need one a day. Getting old LOL
[QUOTE=Kulibali;2486098]Assuming that you are flying directly into Puerto Plata, isn't the fare the same as going to Colombia if not higher from the good ole USA? Cheapest route from FLL is to Santo Domingo, then caribe tour to puerto plata.[/QUOTE].
Sosua scammer makes worldstar!
[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh292Zw6rAX93DpwV8[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2486219]Sosua scammer makes worldstar!
[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh292Zw6rAX93DpwV8[/URL][/QUOTE]Santo Domingo is probably going to crackdown!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2486219]Sosua scammer makes worldstar!
[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh292Zw6rAX93DpwV8[/URL][/QUOTE]I had the original video two weeks ago, the shit had died, then a Youtuber brought it back up. Now its international SMH.
I know the guys involved, nice guys but those DR vets made amateur mistakes. Bringing wives to Sosua then bringing ugly street girls to his penthouse to party with the wives. Not getting price established before hand. Letting the police get involved.
If a chica says 250 usd the conversation is over and I don't even want her around me. Shit, if she says 100 usd I have no conversation for her. Sosua has become a bidding war.
Now she is in a punta cana resort hiding out doing an I'm sorry video. I don't even blame the girls anymore because guys have fucked Sosua up. Now you see why vets don't like giving advice anymore, because most guys are going to just throw big money at girls, thirsty MF.
When I was a newbie we listened to the expats and tried to follow the structure that had been established. Guys don't do interviews, they see a big ass and say lets go. Then they are surprised they have a crazy chica. One guy talked about paying a Sosua girl 350 usd, and was proud of it.
One guy even proposed to a chica in Rumbas (Kings).
We killed our own paradise.
Still trying to make it back to Sosua. I booked a November flight, but it got cancelled again. Can only get there thru the States, but I don't like flying. 3-4 hours is about all I can take.
Good thing I came back to take care of business. Across the street from my modest midtown apartment, they've dumped homeless into two apartment buildings, and the only hotel in the area.
Now it's BLM, protests, angry neighbors, politicians, cops, needles and a garbage dump on the street.
Sosua is looking really good about now!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2486407]Still trying to make it back to Sosua. I booked a November flight, but it got cancelled again. Can only get there thru the States, but I don't like flying. 3-4 hours is about all I can take.
Good thing I came back to take care of business. Across the street from my modest midtown apartment, they've dumped homeless into two apartment buildings, and the only hotel in the area.
Now it's BLM, protests, angry neighbors, politicians, cops, needles and a garbage dump on the street.
Sosua is looking really good about now![/QUOTE]Wait, all this in Canada? I thought it's been quiet up there.
Takes a special brainless, shameless, ugly skunk to throw shit like that around. Piece of trash.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2486395]I had the original video two weeks ago, the shit had died, then a Youtuber brought it back up. Now its international SMH.
I know the guys involved, nice guys but those DR vets made amateur mistakes. Bringing wives to Sosua then bringing ugly street girls to his penthouse to party with the wives. Not getting price established before hand. Letting the police get involved.
If a chica says 250 usd the conversation is over and I don't even want her around me. Shit, if she says 100 usd I have no conversation for her. Sosua has become a bidding war.
Now she is in a punta cana resort hiding out doing an I'm sorry video. I don't even blame the girls anymore because guys have fucked Sosua up. Now you see why vets don't like giving advice anymore, because most guys are going to just throw big money at girls, thirsty MF.
When I was a newbie we listened to the expats and tried to follow the structure that had been established. Guys don't do interviews, they see a big ass and say lets go. Then they are surprised they have a crazy chica. One guy talked about paying a Sosua girl 350 usd, and was proud of it.
One guy even proposed to a chica in Rumbas (Kings).
We killed our own paradise.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2486407]
Now it's BLM, protests, angry neighbors, politicians, cops, needles and a garbage dump on the street.
[/QUOTE]¡Bienvenido a LOS Estados Unidos!
I hope you get back to Sosua soon.
The kings (Rumba), rodeo.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2486468]Wait, all this in Canada? I thought it's been quiet up there.[/QUOTE]Yep this is Toronto.
The land of civilized diversity is in a heap of trouble. Same as any big city in the States now with gangland shootings, homeless on the streets, tent cities in parks, but no burning or looting. Yet! I was deciding what to do with the apartment I keep there. Now I know!
Ssoua! Home sweet home.
Happy mongering all!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2486514]Yep this is Toronto.
The land of civilized diversity is in a heap of trouble. Same as any big city in the States now with gangland shootings, homeless on the streets, tent cities in parks, but no burning or looting. Yet! I was deciding what to do with the apartment I keep there. Now I know!
Ssoua! Home sweet home.
Happy mongering all![/QUOTE]I always thought the opposite pre-covid. Keep my house in Florida as a place to run to incase the DR got bad. Now I'm thinking selling it or give it to my kids and hide out in the Dominican Republic LOL. Things are going to get bad in America soon.
My worry is for my kids in America mostly. Curfew, blackouts don't seem that bad nowadays. I just want to live out the Golden years in peace. Safe travels.
A prostitute is a woman who has exhausted all options and is desperate for money. Any man who thinks that a working girl will not try to scam him is a fool. Obviously not all ladies of the night try to con customers but it is something that must be expected from someone who has turned to selling her body for money. For me the ratio is one scammer out of ten encounters unless you are in the DR where the ratio's a little higher. In my mongering newbie days 40 years ago I used to argue and contend, definitely not now. Wisdom comes with age.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2486699]A prostitute is a woman who has exhausted all options and is desperate for money. Any man who thinks that a working girl will not try to scam him is a fool. Obviously not all ladies of the night try to con customers but it is something that must be expected from someone who has turned to selling her body for money. For me the ratio is one scammer out of ten encounters unless you are in the DR where the ratio's a little higher. In my mongering newbie days 40 years ago I used to argue and contend, definitely not now. Wisdom comes with age.[/QUOTE]Too many guys forget that hookers and johns are interchangable. There's no moral superiority, johns are no better than the hookers they hang with. That goes for all of us.
The world is full of scammers and victims, but nowhere is is written that you have to be one of them.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2486699]A prostitute is a woman who has exhausted all options and is desperate for money. [/QUOTE]I don't agree with this totally. Maybe in some situations. A lot of prostitutes are living well and making a lot more money than the average person. Not desperate and have other means to make money. They do it because they can make more money in a few days than most people do in a month. They choose the profession over working a 9 to 5 normal job. Prostitutes have paid their way thru college, bought houses, property, cars a the even retired. Lots of them are well off and will never go back to the corporate world.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2486565]I always thought the opposite pre-covid. Keep my house in Florida as a place to run to incase the DR got bad. Now I'm thinking selling it or give it to my kids and hide out in the Dominican Republic LOL. Things are going to get bad in America soon.
My worry is for my kids in America mostly. Curfew, blackouts don't seem that bad nowadays. I just want to live out the Golden years in peace. Safe travels.[/QUOTE]Things are getting bad all over. I was in Europe 2 years ago, and it's the same. The whole world is mobile, hard to tell what city you are in, they all want change, but it seems they just make things worse instead of better.
As a DR resident, I'm just happy they let me in. I don't want to change their world, and I don't complain about the culture. I leave that to others. LOL.
But It's the only place I breath a big sigh of relief, when I come out of the POP airport!
Hope you find yours!
Luv ya MrGG.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2486699]A prostitute is a woman who has exhausted all options and is desperate for money. Any man who thinks that a working girl will not try to scam him is a fool. Obviously not all ladies of the night try to con customers but it is something that must be expected from someone who has turned to selling her body for money. For me the ratio is one scammer out of ten encounters unless you are in the DR where the ratio's a little higher. In my mongering newbie days 40 years ago I used to argue and contend, definitely not now. Wisdom comes with age.[/QUOTE]Comparatively few prostitutes scam in general. They have been with many many guys and can easily sense who they can scam and get away with it. Rule of thumb is negotiate and negotiate for the services. There is no shame in it. Generally most girls once agreed will stick to it and sometimes ask for a taxi fare or food which are small amounts. I was quoted anywhere from 2500 pesos to upwards of 10000 pesos. On negotiation come down to normal levels. If I did not negotiate and take her she will insist on me paying highest amount. Security if involved will try to settle for generally more than you want to give. Girls very rarely want police involved unless there is physical damage by fighting.
Me and many others in this forum have never had any problems with any girl all over the world. Treat the girls with respect and pre negotiate. If the girl dies not behave get rid of her. If she is a problem to start with guaranteed she will be a problem company. Swallow your pride and get rid of her with little damage to your wallet. Do not expect them to change their attitude.
On my last trip I had a Scammer who almost ruined my trip. She was very sexy and could have been the highlight of my trip but she had other plans. It was my fault as she gave several warning signs that I chose to ignor. My excuse was due to curfew I was pressed to find good talent. I think the percentage of scam girls higher then I have ever seen. For most mature men the last thing you want to do is argue with a puta on vacation. I negotiated a walking away price and was relieved not to involve police or anyone else. When you make a mistake sometime you have to take your medicine.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2486699]A prostitute is a woman who has exhausted all options and is desperate for money. Any man who thinks that a working girl will not try to scam him is a fool. [/QUOTE]1. Some maybe. Most don't "exhaust" any options. Prostitution is easy. The entrance barrier is low. No training, tuition, or investment are necessary. And the pay is better. Most hookers in heavily touristed areas don't see themselves as victims (or prostitutes for that matter). It's just a job.
2. We'd have to come up with a definition of scam. I mean, if you're talking about lying there like a cold fish, or begging for tips, or trying to steal some time like 15-20 minutes out of agreed upon 1 hour, that's very common all over the world. But throwing tantrum like that skunk in the video is highly unusual. Getting out of the deal without bringing the deed to completion (leche papi and other shit) -- very uncommon. It's a mistake attempting to normalize the behavior of street rats in Sosua.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2486219]Sosua scammer makes worldstar!
[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh292Zw6rAX93DpwV8[/URL].[/QUOTE]So this chick is obviously bad news. The guys in the video were lucky they captured the incident on video.
It would of never gone down like that if the guy agreed on the price upfront.
Is this type of drama typical in Sosua? Because it's definitely not getting me excited to go.
That chick (despite her craziness) was a stunner in my opinion, are there tons of BBW in Sosua?
I'm obviously going to do more research, but it looks like tourists F-ed up what was once a great mongering city.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2486888]So this chick is obviously bad news. The guys in the video were lucky they captured the incident on video.
It would of never gone down like that if the guy agreed on the price upfront.[/QUOTE]Please read the forum. It goes down exactly like that even when a price is agreed to up front. A chick will later try to jack the price up. There are many reports about this posted by myself and others.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2486888]Is this type of drama typical in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I am afraid so.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2486888]I'm obviously going to do more research, but it looks like tourists F-ed up what was once a great mongering city.[/QUOTE]Something definitely fucked it up.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2486888]So this chick is obviously bad news. The guys in the video were lucky they captured the incident on video.
It would of never gone down like that if the guy agreed on the price upfront.
Is this type of drama typical in Sosua? Because it's definitely not getting me excited to go.
That chick (despite her craziness) was a stunner in my opinion, are there tons of BBW in Sosua?
I'm obviously going to do more research, but it looks like tourists F-ed up what was once a great mongering city.[/QUOTE]Obviously bad news. There's the problem!
Is it typical?
Maybe for a HC SW. But there's a huge freelance market down there, with lots of choices. You get to pick from a buffet.
The only time time a chica tried to upsell me was about 6 years ago. Posted about it here.
I'd had a few beers, and this young knock dead young beauty, came walking by with her older, fatter friend. She looked fresh, spoke no Ingles, so I negotiated with her obviously HC amiga. Never talked to the chica, my dick just said, Let's go!
Took her round the corner to hotel TL. And went 2 rounds of the best sex I'd ever had.
My enthusiasm showed, and I was telling how fucking great she was all the way thru it. After the deed was done I paid her, and intended to give her a propina, but she wanted more, I think about 1000 pesos. Sorry dearie!
She wouldn't leave so I made a call, told her it was to security and the cops. And walked out to the balcony with a beer and a smoke. She followed me out, still asking. Sorry dearie, let's wait for the cops. I'm smiling.
After about 5 minutes, she has a change of heart and holds up 4 fingers. No deal, so she does back in. Now she's getting antsy, so I say come with me and I'll give you a 400 peso propina. Now she's relieved. Take her out to the street and give her the 8 bucks or so.
She left me satisfied, and I was almost tempted to ask her back, to wage that magic wand again! LOL.
Closest thing to a rip off in 11 years, but I forgot about the 8 bucks, and will always remember the sex!
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Headed to the su. On the flight to NY had a row to myself. From NY to Santiago the middle seat was empty, otherwise pretty full. Everyone wore masks, it was OK. Had been texting with a favorita. She was also coming in. We were going to hook up. Came into Santiago at 5 pm. She's blowing up. Tu hotel? No. I'm on the road. Il call you when I get there. I knew I would arrive after curfew so I stopped on the way and got wine and water. Hit the Su and got some chicken and fries just in time. All the while Every 10 minutes I'm telling her I'm not in my room yet.
Finally she curses me out. You're a rat and your word is no good! O waited for you! I never want to see you again. LOL. So I finally get to the room. I text her that I just arrived in my room. She sends me a smirk emoji. I ask if she knows angry sex is the best! I tell her I have 3000 pesos for her. She says she's on the way.
She gets her and is going on about how I was with some otra chica in Santiago, blah blah. She gave me and insanely good BBBJ! LOL! Then I pounded her out! Angry sex is good. DR shit! Go figure!
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2486731]I don't agree with this totally. Maybe in some situations. A lot of prostitutes are living well and making a lot more money than the average person. Not desperate and have other means to make money. They do it because they can make more money in a few days than most people do in a month. They choose the profession over working a 9 to 5 normal job. Prostitutes have paid their way thru college, bought houses, property, cars a the even retired. Lots of them are well off and will never go back to the corporate world.[/QUOTE]Lets say a woman has a child, she gets no support from the child's father, is turned away by her family and relatives and has lost her job or can't find one; she becomes a prime candidate for turning to prostitution. Most putas are in this category. Now if she's hot, gives good service and has a pleasant personality she can make a lot of money and become as you described.
Such is life in So-sewer, because of tourists or whatever it's been that way for quite a while.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2486920]Please read the forum. It goes down exactly like that even when a price is agreed to up front. A chick will later try to jack the price up. There are many reports about this posted by myself and others.
I am afraid so.
Something definitely fucked it up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2487062]Lets say a woman has a child, she gets no support from the child's father, is turned away by her family and relatives and has lost her job or can't find one; she becomes a prime candidate for turning to prostitution. Most putas are in this category. Now if she's hot, gives good service and has a pleasant personality she can make a lot of money and become as you described.[/QUOTE]Mostly true, but one thing doesn't ring true. The part about being turned away by her family and relatives.
Most putas are generally a main source of income for a poor family. They mind the kids for her.
And even welcome a regular back to their casa to meet the rest of the family and look him over, LOL.
The girl in the video is a veteran of the scene. She was insisting on deleting the video, which should have been done in my view; and posting it with all the guys involved is not smart. In any case the best way is to deescalate, pay off as earlier as possible, then chill and find a new girl.
I have been going to Sosua for about 8 years and have done well over a 100 girls and have less then 5 bad expriences. There is a myth of these girls scoing big pay days an livng the high life. The vast number of girls fail to score and go home with nothing. If they can get 2 guys in a week they are happy. There are exceptions. Girls who are smoking hot and have game. They can score and build client list to support themselves. Most guys who go to Sosua are bargain hunters looking for low cost pussy. (I am one of them) Most chicas are poor and struggle to make enough money to pay thier bills. The vast majority are not scammers but are girls who are tired of living hand to mouth and want a few nice things and pleasant moments. I try to provide some of that to the girls I interact with. Normally I get great feedback. The stories of the chica at the Western Union collecting mutlple checks are myths. Most girls go home to shacks with no hot water and conditons that would dri ve us nuts.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2487062]Lets say a woman has a child, she gets no support from the child's father, is turned away by her family and relatives and has lost her job or can't find one; she becomes a prime candidate for turning to prostitution. Most putas are in this category. Now if she's hot, gives good service and has a pleasant personality she can make a lot of money and become as you described.[/QUOTE]
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Up early, partly because of curfew. Got in a workout. Changed money, got stuff for the room, haircut, breakfast. Headed to the beach.
Ran into a old flame near New cafe. We chatted, gave her the maybe later. Awesome day on the beach. Bar hopped a little before curfew. Watching movies on the room. She hit me on whatsapp. Awesome session! She said she had just gotten to town and I believe her cause she was horny! Awesome session. I gave her a 500 pesos tip. She asked for 200 more for the taxi. What? But do I want to argue with a great provider over 4 $? No. I gave it too. She was happy and I definitely was! Peace!
[QUOTE=Questner;2487228]The girl in the video is a veteran of the scene. She was insisting on deleting the video, which should have been done in my view; and posting it with all the guys involved is not smart. In any case the best way is to deescalate, pay off as earlier as possible, then chill and find a new girl.[/QUOTE]I had the pleasure of meeting the guys from the video. When I saw them I jokingly asked for their autograph. Good dudes! They admitted The young guy in their group made a rookie mistake! He saw the chicas body and got excited and asked her to join them leaving Rumbas. Once back at the house everybody's drinking eating and have a good time. The chica was showing low class and acting kind of funny.
The young guy decided he did not want to be with her. When they ask her to leave that's when shit got ugly. She wanted to be compensated for her time. They offered her $100 to leave. She wanted the video delete it. The strange thing was there was another video being recorded While she cried about the first video. They end up going to the police station behind that situation. After seeing the videos; the police chief told them they could leave. The chica was trying to say they put their hands on her. A picture is worth 1000 words but the video don't lie.
They decided to leave the Sue alone for a while. The video got too much attention however; they were happy they had it.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2487234]I have been going to Sosua for about 8 years and have done well over a 100 girls and have less then 5 bad expriences. There is a myth of these girls scoing big pay days an livng the high life. The vast number of girls fail to score and go home with nothing. If they can get 2 guys in a week they are happy. There are exceptions. Girls who are smoking hot and have game. They can score and build client list to support themselves. Most guys who go to Sosua are bargain hunters looking for low cost pussy. (I am one of them) Most chicas are poor and struggle to make enough money to pay thier bills. The vast majority are not scammers but are girls who are tired of living hand to mouth and want a few nice things and pleasant moments. I try to provide some of that to the girls I interact with. Normally I get great feedback. The stories of the chica at the Western Union collecting mutlple checks are myths. Most girls go home to shacks with no hot water and conditons that would dri ve us nuts.[/QUOTE]I only been going to Sosua since 2011. (miss the'latin year) But have been going to Angeles since 2000. I agree most of the girls are doing it for the families and their kids. Not like in United States where a lot of the girls are doing for money and the drugs.
I am not looking for a girlfriend or a girl to hang out with. Just give me a good time for an hour and move on. Don't steal from me. I lock up most things. Girl stole my contacts last year. I am usually in town for 10 day trips. Show the girls respect. But as been written on this board. I am sport fucking. About once every three years I have trouble with a girl. But I always talk and joke with security and get him occasional food. It has help with trouble girls.
One thing I have learned over the years. These girls only have five years in the business. So they will try and get the most money they can. Negotiate with the girl. But make sure you have a price agreed. Plus if you want blow job. Negotiate before the room. If you want anal. Negotiate. I go with skinny girls. But a lot of the girls are same height and weight as me. I usually never have any problem. Even get picture of girls with clothes on before they leave the room. But we all know there are some psycho girls. These girls only think about making money. So make sure she know what you expect and what she expect to do. I got my airline refund for my ticket for this week. Maybe next year Super Bowl (no curfew) because Asia looks like it will be closed past Christmas.
Up early, partly because of curfew. Got in a workout. Changed money, got stuff for the room, haircut, breakfast. Headed to the beach.
Ran into a old flame near New cafe. We chatted, gave her the maybe later. Awesome day on the beach. Bar hopped a little before curfew. Watching movies on the room. She hit me on whatsapp. Awesome session! She said she had just gotten to town and I believe her cause she was horny! Awesome session. I gave her a 500 pesos tip. She asked for 200 more for the taxi. What? But do I want to argue with a great provider over 4 $? No. I gave it too. She was happy and I definitely was! The chicas seem to have no problem moving around after curfew. Peace.
Junior turgid is probably a little bigger than average and I do enjoy banging hard but no non-pro has ever complained about it. When I pay for one hour and a puta demands within 20 minutes to "leche papi" I count that as a bad experience.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2487401]Junior turgid is probably a little bigger than average and I do enjoy banging hard but no non-pro has ever complained about it. When I pay for one hour and a puta demands within 20 minutes to "leche papi" I count that as a bad experience.[/QUOTE]LOL. A Puta rarely will allow you to bang continuously for one hour. If she does there goes her earning potential for a couple of days let alone rest of the night.
For me it is more like try and repeat often. This is why I like toda la noche so that we can have a good time all night. Even in Sosua it is possible to find. Most of them are outliers coming to make money. They want a steady income for few days instead of competing for attention. Also I would take them to beach, sightseeing, dinner, dance etc. In short I need a temporary GF plus sex on demand. When the Main Street was open before you could find plenty of such types. Last time I found a nice young girl on her way to a tourist resort job. She wanted some money to arrange her transportation and lodging when she gets there. And she knew from her friend how to make money in Sosua.
Maybe now if I go I will not find such types.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2487401] I pay for one hour and a puta demands within 20 minutes to "leche papi" I count that as a bad experience.[/QUOTE]In my opinion it's very difficult to find a hooker that allows fucking for 20 min. Thats Crazy! So much time! They are getting nervous when you need more than 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2486888]So this chick is obviously bad news. The guys in the video were lucky they captured the incident on video.
It would of never gone down like that if the guy agreed on the price upfront.
Is this type of drama typical in Sosua? Because it's definitely not getting me excited to go.
That chick (despite her craziness) was a stunner in my opinion, are there tons of BBW in Sosua?
I'm obviously going to do more research, but it looks like tourists F-ed up what was once a great mongering city.[/QUOTE]What would prevent a puta to refuse service and demand the payment threatening to throw a tantrum and call the cops? Or what would prevent her to provide a 10-minute service and demand more?
What would you do in this situation? Stand on principal? Remember you'll have zero evidence to rebuff her claim.
And no, the extent of that puta's performance is not typical, thank god, but smaller scams abound.
I agree it used to be a great mongering town. Maybe the pandemic will change their attitude, but I doubt it. Oldtimers like Oakie live big in Sosua having built their own harem over the years. Hard to replicate on a short visit, though, LOL.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2487453]In my opinion it's very difficult to find a hooker that allows fucking for 20 min. Thats Crazy! So much time! They are getting nervous when you need more than 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Sometimes we forget these many of these chicas are not having sex with us for their enjoyment. Its for employment.
Up early! Got my workout in. Hit the beach early since its an early curfew day. A beautiful day on the beach. Lots of laughs and good convo with the fellas. Didn't see any mind blowing talent. Made the rounds drinking. Got to the room after curfew. Hit mi amiga from the night before on whatsapp. She says solo me das dos mil. Just give me two thousand. I guess she didn't catch any daytime action. She comes by. We have glass of wine and converse. She puts down another award winning performance! Dayum! I give her 3 mil. She was super appreciative. Theyre not always. I'm not trying to break a chica down to 2012 prices. Just do a good job. She did. We both walked away happy!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2487479]What would prevent a puta to refuse service and demand the payment threatening to throw a tantrum and call the cops? Or what would prevent her to provide a 10-minute service and demand more?
What would you do in this situation? Stand on principal? Remember you'll have zero evidence to rebuff her claim.
And no, the extent of that puta's performance is not typical, thank god, but smaller scams abound.
I agree it used to be a great mongering town. Maybe the pandemic will change their attitude, but I doubt it. Oldtimers like Oakie live big in Sosua having built their own harem over the years. Hard to replicate on a short visit, though, LOL.[/QUOTE]Like GrownMan said, this is their employment, their job. A puta's job is to be a puta. You pay, she's fu*s.
I wouldn't have gotten into that situation in the first place because A. I would have properly screened her; b. I speak Spanish (unlike the guy who took her to that house); C. I would have paid the agreed upon price before the session; the. I would have taken her to a short time motel and get in and out of there in less than an hour and be done with her (and get her number if the session was good); E. I wouldn't have chilled with her for 4 hours in a house with married men and women (when the guy literally met her right before leaving the club), nor would I have fed her diner.
And if I was that guy who said "nah but we'll figure it out" after she initially proposed 250; well his friends in the podcast even said the guy made a dumb move.
Finally, if it did turn into the crazy situation that happened in the video, I would have given her 250 just to GTFO out of my house and not waste nor risk hours of my time at the police station.
LOL, finally I wouldn't let my friends go on a podcast to make an even bigger deal to the cluster F, that happened that night.
The guy was lucky his friends knew what they were doing, knew Spanish, and saved his a $$.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2487453]In my opinion it's very difficult to find a hooker that allows fucking for 20 min. Thats Crazy! So much time! They are getting nervous when you need more than 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]In Brazil if you have paid for an hour and you come in under 30 minutes the garotas are disappointed. Once I came in 20 minutes and the girl began to masturbate.
First off, it ain't natural (look at the animal world), unless one has grown up knowing sex only through watching porno, where everyone is acting. Secondly, if a woman, who does it for work, does it for an hour with everyone, she will have to take plenty of breaks as the inner layers of the vagina would be quite sore, no matter how aroused she is or no matter what lubricant the guy put in. Besides, even a nymphomaniac p*ta, were one to exist in reality, cannot cum, every time she f*ks. Finally, if a guy f*ks more than a couple of times a day like that, say, a total of three continuous non stop "abrasive" movement, he too, will have to take a break the next day, until the delicate skin in the area, can regenerate itself.
Perhaps I am old and old fashioned but I do not have to hump for one hour to have more fun and I know for a fact, a woman feels the same way. And then there are those kinds, who because of their body weight (and one sees plenty of those in Sosua), if they were even to attempt an one hour hump, most likely will keel over and for good.
Now, Porno, that is just a spectacle and fake at that! FYI!
I have a short trip plan and with the curfew I was wandering which would be better place to stay Blackbeard's or Ahnvee. I know at BB the price for the chicas is set but I have never been to ahnvee and wanted to know if it had the same policy. With the early weekend curfew I want a place with nearly 24 hour availability. Also if the choice was between the Europa or New Garden which would you recommend. Hope someone can help.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2487677]In Brazil if you have paid for an hour and you come in under 30 minutes the garotas are disappointed. Once I came in 20 minutes and the girl began to masturbate.[/QUOTE]Note to self. Book a Brazil trip after COVID-19.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2487811]I have a short trip plan and with the curfew I was wandering which would be better place to stay Blackbeard's or Ahnvee. I know at BB the price for the chicas is set but I have never been to ahnvee and wanted to know if it had the same policy. With the early weekend curfew I want a place with nearly 24 hour availability. Also if the choice was between the Europa or New Garden which would you recommend. Hope someone can help.[/QUOTE]Blackbeard is a well run operation while Ahnvee is a Johnny come lately. I have never been to either of them, except to BB as a spectator. My thought is that, one could always come by and check what Ahnvee offers but I am not sure if women are available only at night or all through the day as in BB and given your numbered days, BB is a sure thing (or used to be, pre-covid).
Europa is walking distance from Ahnvee, well 5 minutes of brisk walk. New Garden is somewhat more distant although distance is a relative word in Sosua. I personally like the environment of New Garden, what with a restaurant on site for the guests. However, Casa Valeria is my choice and which is right next to New Garden.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2487568]Like GrownMan said, this is their employment, their job. A puta's job is to be a puta. You pay, she's fu*s.
I wouldn't have gotten into that situation[/QUOTE]LOL, good points. Except (for me) I don't speak conversational Spanish and I wouldn't bring a puta to a motel while having a nice accommodation. So, we're all different, but your way of doing things would make it more bulletproof for sure.
[QUOTE=Motcar;2487814]Note to self. Book a Brazil trip after COVID-19.[/QUOTE]The border's wide open.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2487811]I have a short trip plan and with the curfew I was wandering which would be better place to stay Blackbeard's or Ahnvee. I know at BB the price for the chicas is set but I have never been to ahnvee and wanted to know if it had the same policy. With the early weekend curfew I want a place with nearly 24 hour availability. Also if the choice was between the Europa or New Garden which would you recommend. Hope someone can help.[/QUOTE]Blackbeard's is an off the beaten track small hotel, with a posted menu. No stress, no drama.
Ahnvee is a big hotel that allows guests, and you're on your own to make your deal with the freelancers.
For newbies, most vets here recommend a couple days at BB, and a couple days in Sosua to get a feel for your comfort level.
The Sosua hotels mentioned by Tempo are all good bets.
Have to disagree about pay before. I would never pay before. Only after. The one time I paid before in the states I had a lousy experience and then had no leverage because she had my money. None of the chicas I met tried to get me to pre-pay in D. R. I would say even red flag if they did.
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Thanks Oakie and Tempoecorto. Also have anyone heard about Oasis adult hotel across form Playa Dorada. It is suppose to be similar to BB.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2488475]Thanks Oakie and Tempoecorto. Also have anyone heard about Oasis adult hotel across form Playa Dorada. It is suppose to be similar to BB.[/QUOTE]See the thread entitled [B]Field of Dreams (FOD) Anybody?[/B] in the User Blog section below. The place was formerly called "Field of Dreams". I would say not worth considering unless you are already staying in Playa Dorada, in which case the convenience and savings on time and transport might just make up for its demerits. Having said all that, no-one has reported from there lately, and things can change rapidly in the DR.
Not sure why you posted in the Sosua section. It is in Puerto Plata (God's own city). Sosua is 15 miles away.
Black was always better choice.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2488475]Thanks Oakie and Tempoecorto. Also have anyone heard about Oasis adult hotel across form Playa Dorada. It is suppose to be similar to BB.[/QUOTE]
10 days in the su! Had a good time. Beach was good as always. Always good to see the fellas. Only pulled off my Whats app. No new chicas. Didn't step foot in ahnvee.
Went to rumbas twice for a quick drink with the crew. A relaxing quiet trip. Its weird seeing hotties but being afraid to smash. But I personally know three people who got corona here, so I'm paranoid! Not sure when I'll be back. I kinda feel like I played with fire and didn't get burned, as far as not getting covid. Peace.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2488032]Have to disagree about pay before. I would never pay before. Only after. The one time I paid before in the states I had a lousy experience and then had no leverage because she had my money. None of the chicas I met tried to get me to pre-pay in D. R. I would say even red flag if they did.[/QUOTE]I agree, I've never pre-paid in any country (Thailand, DR, etc).
But sadly you can still get a lousy experience even if you don't pre-pay. There's really no indication on whether your experience will be good or not, doesn't matter how much you vet them.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2489381]10 days in the su! Had a good time. [/QUOTE]Glad to hear the Su is still workable.
Going to Sosua in 2 weeks and spending more time preparing. In the good old days I could wing my trips. There were always plenty of new talent that more then satisfied my needs. However now it is more important to have sure things. The girls are a big part of why I go to Sosua but the eatng places beaches and fellowship play a major role. My whatap pros are being scheduled for this trip. I never take non pros to Sosua. Picking the non pros for my time in Santo Domingo is the chore. I have 4 girls that are ready but I can not accomodate all of thems. I have a potential 3 some that could be interesting and is tempting as a last day activity. Non pros are usually more affectonate and better lovers. Sosua is my canvas for some great fun.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2489681]I agree, I've never pre-paid in any country (Thailand, DR, etc).
But sadly you can still get a lousy experience even if you don't pre-pay. There's really no indication on whether your experience will be good or not, doesn't matter how much you vet them.[/QUOTE]LOL. In Canada you always pay first. Just the way it is. Some guys swear they don't but it just isn't on. I was shocked when I went other places and you paid after. I paid first a few times in sosua- was mostly ok but did get burned once. But no. Don't pay first.
[QUOTE=Norbert61;2493111]LOL. In Canada you always pay first. Just the way it is. Some guys swear they don't but it just isn't on. I was shocked when I went other places and you paid after. I paid first a few times in sosua- was mostly ok but did get burned once. But no. Don't pay first.[/QUOTE]You're right. I should've been more clear. My fault LOL. I meant to say I never pre-paid in a developing country. 1st world developed countries like Canada or America usually require you to pay first. A western woman would walk out right away if you didn't pay upfront.
Developing countries, it's a different story and mongers / expats are far more trusted to pay afterwards. Thank goodness.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2493541]You're right. I should've been more clear. My fault LOL. I meant to say I never pre-paid in a developing country. 1st world developed countries like Canada or America usually require you to pay first. A western woman would walk out right away if you didn't pay upfront.
Developing countries, it's a different story and mongers / expats are far more trusted to pay afterwards. Thank goodness.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that men in developing countries are more trustworthy than men in developed countries?
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2493541]You're right. I should've been more clear. My fault LOL. I meant to say I never pre-paid in a developing country. 1st world developed countries like Canada or America usually require you to pay first. A western woman would walk out right away if you didn't pay upfront.
Developing countries, it's a different story and mongers / expats are far more trusted to pay afterwards. Thank goodness.[/QUOTE]It sure is a different story. Thank goodness.
In the home country with some work, you may find a stripper, escort or SW that can satisfy you, but a good one doesn't come cheap, and the chances of a guaranteed repeat are slim. They may have moved on, be busy, or left town.
In the DR, you can easily find a good one, out of the thousands freelancing, and for a relatively few pesos, you can actually own her. She'd move in with you tomorrow, if you'd let her! LOL.
As for Dominicans being more trusting, Damn right they are.
I can drop in for a beer at a couple of places on the beach, and a half dozen bars in town, if I meet up with pals, and leave my tab. Pay you later amigo. No problemo senor!, (based on 12 year relationships).
After 50 years in Toronto they still frown on that sort of thing!
I am in Miami Airport at gate. There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. I am from a very different generation. I dress differently and conduct myself differently. These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script.
I am in Miami Airport at gate. There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. I am from a very different generation. I dress differently and conduct myself differently. These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script. At this moment there are more mongers then civilians. Shocking! Interesting 2 older white guys in cue but no young white guys. 7 more 30 somethings just pulled up. In my opinion these guys bring new issues that could bring the su down.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2495378]These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script.[/QUOTE]You are going to flip the script and ask to hang out with them?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2495382]I am in Miami Airport at gate. There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. I am from a very different generation. I dress differently and conduct myself differently. These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script. At this moment there are more mongers then civilians. Shocking! Interesting 2 older white guys in cue but no young white guys. 7 more 30 somethings just pulled up. In my opinion these guys bring new issues that could bring the su down.[/QUOTE]Yep. Its been coming for years Old Kool! Time to find a new destination. Preferably somewhere where its hard to move without espanol. That will weed out the make it rain crew.
Sosua isn't going back to the 2012-16 mode. The make it rain crew and youtubers will get more bars closed. I won't be back anytime soon. Peace.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2495382]There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. .... Interesting 2 older white guys in cue but no young white guys. 7 more 30 somethings just pulled up. [/QUOTE]This is an interesting sociology conundrum. (15 +7) young black men, if I am reading right between the lines and not a single young white American? Young people have the same drive, irrespective of ethnicity so, is it a question of money? What is the story underneath, if there is one, I wonder.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2495469]This is an interesting sociology conundrum. (15 +7) young black men, if I am reading right between the lines and not a single young white American? Young people have the same drive, irrespective of ethnicity so, is it a question of money? What is the story underneath, if there is one, I wonder.[/QUOTE]Young white Americans were going to Sosua for fun in large numbers few years back. Nowadays it is older white and young black guys in large numbers who go there.
I guess young white Americans are going to other countries like Costa Rica, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand. For some reason they seem to have lost interest in Sosua. I do not think it is money.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2495529]Young white Americans were going to Sosua for fun in large numbers few years back. Nowadays it is older white and young black guys in large numbers who go there.
I guess young white Americans are going to other countries like Costa Rica, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand. For some reason they seem to have lost interest in Sosua. I do not think it is money.[/QUOTE]Young white American women are adjusting their financial expectations because of covid 19 and are putting out.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2495529]Young white Americans were going to Sosua for fun in large numbers few years back. Nowadays it is older white and young black guys in large numbers who go there.
I guess young white Americans are going to other countries like Costa Rica, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand. For some reason they seem to have lost interest in Sosua. I do not think it is money.[/QUOTE]Sosua is in virtual lockdown and curfew.
But Sosua will survive, and continue to be a destination of choice, as long as:
DR remains poor.
Prostitution remains a huge source of foreign exchange.
Prostitution remains legal.
And produces, in quantity, hot Latino and Hatian chicas.
Chica friendly hotels.
Tropical Island climate.
I don't see that changing anytime soon.
When the whole world gets back to normal, so will Sosua, for young and old alike.
Some will go to rack up numbers, others to engage in mutually satisfying relationships.
There's room for all!
(IMHO).
[QUOTE=Turgid;2495645]Young white American women are adjusting their financial expectations because of covid 19 and are putting out.[/QUOTE]Young Men in the west are having less sex. Frankly there's always been some segregation in the west. Even in the bars on the strip. I ran into a German propriator of a bar and we said that we were heading down to the Anhvee for curfew and he said "They only like Black guys down there". I was surprised he said that. But I noticed that they were only white guys other than me and my friend in his bar.
Everyone knows that Dominican women don't care about race, but it seems like (some) mongers do. Sosua is almost like a Black american colony now so unless you're an old head and loves sosua chances are you'd seek greener pastures.
That being said white dudes have always been more adventerous, 15 years from now we'll hear of the new spot to get cut rate pussy. There's dudes in Upper Laos and in central Madagascar raving about GFE and bottom basement prices. I'll probably join them when the infestructure gets better.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2495694]Frankly there's always been some segregation in the west. Even in the bars on the strip. I ran into a German propriator of a bar and we said that we were heading down to the Anhvee for curfew and he said "They only like Black guys down there". I was surprised he said that. But I noticed that they were only white guys other than me and my friend in his bar.[/QUOTE]I would not say it is racial segregation. It is more musical and cultural segregation where that particular place caters to a particular tourist crowd. The chicks just get in where they fit in.
Like in Thailand there are discos and bars that cater to Japanese, Rock and Roll, Hip Hop, Arab, Indian, Country Western, etc. Each one draws tourists that like that particular style or are from the place where that style is from. The Thai chicks have it down pat because depending on which place they go to, they will make themselves the part of that particular style. In the hip hop spot you will see Thai chicks dressed in Michael Jordan jerseys and shoes doing hip hop dances. In the Indian spots you will see Thai chicks with that Indian garb and henna painted on their hands. At the Arab spots you will see them with the big hair and Arab female style heavy ass makeup and thick black eyeliner and fake eyelashes. If you did not know better you would think they were from those places. Then when you look at their pictures from back home they look like a regular old simple Thai chick. Hollywood seriously needs to hire some of those chicks as makeup artists.
It is not really segregation and it is not that they only like that type of guy. They are just getting in where they fit in. Good thing is that if I want to fuck some chick in the ass then all I have to do is find one that hangs at the Arab spots and I know they are with it, because all Arab guys want to do is ass fuck.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2495694]Young Men in the west are having less sex. Frankly there's always been some segregation in the west. Even in the bars on the strip. I ran into a German propriator of a bar and we said that we were heading down to the Anhvee for curfew and he said "They only like Black guys down there". I was surprised he said that. But I noticed that they were only white guys other than me and my friend in his bar.
Everyone knows that Dominican women don't care about race, but it seems like (some) mongers do. Sosua is almost like a Black american colony now so unless you're an old head and loves sosua chances are you'd seek greener pastures.
That being said white dudes have always been more adventerous, 15 years from now we'll hear of the new spot to get cut rate pussy. There's dudes in Upper Laos and in central Madagascar raving about GFE and bottom basement prices. I'll probably join them when the infestructure gets better.
Trip.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say dominicanas don't care about race. I'd say they prioritize money. One of my good buddies who live in sousa noticed he gets more love in some bars than I do, I get more in some bars then he does. He's a white guy. Furthermore I definitely think some dominican owned bars are definitely courting a non black cliente. I had a chica call me a monkey on pedro clisante one day. I called her a sucio puta in response.
With all that said, racism is everywhere to some degree.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2493541]You're right. I should've been more clear. My fault LOL. I meant to say I never pre-paid in a developing country. 1st world developed countries like Canada or America usually require you to pay first. A western woman would walk out right away if you didn't pay upfront.
Developing countries, it's a different story and mongers / expats are far more trusted to pay afterwards. Thank goodness.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right.
Yea as other have said young white male are for the most part are making the longer trip and just going to Asia. Also I've only been going to Sosua since 2013 but never really saw them in large numbers.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2495732]I wouldn't say dominicanas don't care about race. I'd say they prioritize money. One of my good buddies who live in sousa noticed he gets more love in some bars than I do, I get more in some bars then he does. He's a white guy. Furthermore I definitely think some dominican owned bars are definitely courting a non black cliente. I had a chica call me a monkey on pedro clisante one day. I called her a sucio puta in response.
With all that said, racism is everywhere to some degree.
Peace.[/QUOTE]I'd be goddamnned if I let some broke ass campo dwelling puta call me out of my name. I'd probably still be cussing her ass out. I will say I don't see racism like you'd see in america though. But I couldn't fathom a puta looking down on me, and I don't look down on them. I'm really sorry that happened to you.
Trip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495727]I would not say it is racial segregation. It is more musical and cultural segregation where that particular place caters to a particular tourist crowd. The chicks just get in where they fit in.
Like in Thailand there are discos and bars that cater to Japanese, Rock and Roll, Hip Hop, Arab, Indian, Country Western, etc. Each one draws tourists that like that particular style or are from the place where that style is from. The Thai chicks have it down pat because depending on which place they go to, they will make themselves the part of that particular style. In the hip hop spot you will see Thai chicks dressed in Michael Jordan jerseys and shoes doing hip hop dances. In the Indian spots you will see Thai chicks with that Indian garb and henna painted on their hands. At the Arab spots you will see them with the big hair and Arab female style heavy ass makeup and thick black eyeliner and fake eyelashes. If you did not know better you would think they were from those places. Then when you look at their pictures from back home they look like a regular old simple Thai chick. Hollywood seriously needs to hire some of those chicks as makeup artists.
It is not really segregation and it is not that they only like that type of guy. They are just getting in where they fit in. Good thing is that if I want to fuck some chick in the ass then all I have to do is find one that hangs at the Arab spots and I know they are with it, because all Arab guys want to do is ass fuck.[/QUOTE]Damn so they switch it up. I heard about "soul city" in Saigon from the old heads in my city growing up, They said even the girls looked at you funny if you went in the "wrong bar" So chicks look at it like "who do I want to target tonight?" Interesting.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2495764]Damn so they switch it up. I heard about "soul city" in Saigon from the old heads in my city growing up, They said even the girls looked at you funny if you went in the "wrong bar" So chicks look at it like "who do I want to target tonight?" Interesting.
Trip.[/QUOTE]Now that's what I call hustling. Sounds like it's enough Women to cater to everyone. These women are familiar with the different genres. IHMO hip-hop has a lot to do with Dominican Chicas relationship with black guys. The current generation of chicas mostly identify with their Dominican culture and American hip-hop and R & B. They couldn't tell you too much about country Music, Rock 'and' roll, or what an Arab guy likes. Because hip-hop has a kinship in the younger generation culture; many chicas identify more with the Urban black Americans.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2495732]With all that said, racism is everywhere to some degree.[/QUOTE]Which is fucking sad as far as I'm concerned.
Nowadays, racism seems to be a damn hobby for many; fuck them!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2495773]Now that's what I call hustling. Sounds like it's enough Women to cater to everyone. These women are familiar with the different genres. IHMO hip-hop has a lot to do with Dominican Chicas relationship with black guys. The current generation of chicas mostly identify with their Dominican culture and American hip-hop and R & B. They couldn't tell you too much about country Music, Rock 'and' roll, or what an Arab guy likes. Because hip-hop has a kinship in the younger generation culture; many chicas identify more with the Urban black Americans.[/QUOTE]I remember back in 2012-14 or so, rumba, Dlatin, winners circle etc played mostly latin music.
The chicas went crazy dancing to their own music. LOL. They truly enjoyed it. Whats going on now is a pale comparison.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2495816]I remember back in 2012-14 or so, rumba, Dlatin, winners circle etc played mostly latin music.
The chicas went crazy dancing to their own music. LOL. They truly enjoyed it. Whats going on now is a pale comparison.[/QUOTE]LOL, I remember Classicos in 2008 playing American top 40 with Latin music on weekdays. The DJ catered to the audience. Classicos, Latinos, After 1 and others were all jumping. You could club hop all night.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2495773] The current generation of chicas mostly identify with their Dominican culture and American hip-hop and R & B. [/QUOTE]Yes, the chicas adapt to whoever has the money.
But I will tell you one thing for sure; when the chicas hear "bachata" their asses automatically start moving and bouncing! Got to love that!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2495382]I am in Miami Airport at gate. There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. I am from a very different generation. I dress differently and conduct myself differently. These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script. At this moment there are more mongers then civilians. Shocking! Interesting 2 older white guys in cue but no young white guys. 7 more 30 somethings just pulled up. In my opinion these guys bring new issues that could bring the su down.[/QUOTE]Honestly Oldkool at this point any senior monger that's been to Sousa atleast a couple times shouldn't be venturing to hunt directly in sosua and should only be going for nostalgia purpose. Most OG mongers that still fly back to sosua is going because theyre on a time constraint and don't have the time to venture out and explore the island proper BUT they have their females arleady lined up as you do so when theses new mangoes try and quote you those outrageous prices you basically laugh in their face. And the second is the comradery that guys over the years has made with one another. You meet good folks from all over so Sosua now becomes the home base for your friends and acquaintances that you forged threw out the years because it was there in Sosua that open your world to countless good times and good memories I. E. That nostalgia feeling.
So when you see the young thundercats making it rain throwing money in the air just smile and continue to do your thing. They're paying for quick premium fast service from a hunny. Meanwhile you're getting good quality service from hunny for a fraction of the cost with a smile on your face and a presidente in your hand as you lounge off sosua nostalgia.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2495891]Honestly Oldkool at this point any senior monger that's been to Sousa atleast a couple times shouldn't be venturing to hunt directly in sosua and should only be going for nostalgia purpose. Most OG mongers that still fly back to sosua is going because theyre on a time constraint and don't have the time to venture out and explore the island proper BUT they have their females arleady lined up as you do so when theses new mangoes try and quote you those outrageous prices you basically laugh in their face. And the second is the comradery that guys over the years has made with one another. You meet good folks from all over so Sosua now becomes the home base for your friends and acquaintances that you forged threw out the years because it was there in Sosua that open your world to countless good times and good memories I. E. That nostalgia feeling.
So when you see the young thundercats making it rain throwing money in the air just smile and continue to do your thing. They're paying for quick premium fast service from a hunny. Meanwhile you're getting good quality service from hunny for a fraction of the cost with a smile on your face and a presidente in your hand as you lounge off sosua nostalgia.[/QUOTE]Sosua caters to a wide range of tastes. It's not racial.
Charlie's Bar, and a couple more, have a predominantly German crowd, so German is all you hear in there.
Jolly Roger, and next door, has a mostly old white expat crowd that have quiz nights and bingo every Wednesday.
Most black head to Rumba and Anvhee, as they did the old Classico.
Me, I prefer smaller Dominican bars that cater to locals, with local music.
On the beach. It's all in, doesn't matter who you are.
Shall we meet up and play bingo next Wednesday? LOL.
By the way I believe it's more important what you are doing this weekend than what you did 10 or 20 years ago.
I'm not there for nostalgia, I like to think I'm still in the game!
LOL.
Come on brother we leave america to get away from the stereotypes and generalizations. Just because some brothers are younger than you and dress different don't mean they are the make it rain crowd and the problem with sosua. Just like it's young lanes who do Goofy stuff it's old lames who are messing up the game in sosua as well. Very disappointed in this post I thought dr was the place old and young brothers can come and relax and share knowledge with each other smh. It be our own.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2495382]I am in Miami Airport at gate. There are about 15 guy's waiting to board the same fligh. Average age about 30. I am from a very different generation. I dress differently and conduct myself differently. These are the make rain crew. These guys are becoming the the norm. It may be time to flip the script. At this moment there are more mongers then civilians. Shocking! Interesting 2 older white guys in cue but no young white guys. 7 more 30 somethings just pulled up. In my opinion these guys bring new issues that could bring the su down.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2495775]Which is fucking sad as far as I'm concerned.
Nowadays, racism seems to be a damn hobby for many; fuck them![/QUOTE]Psychologists would probably explain that men and women who are racist are more likely to be impotent and frigid respectively.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2495891]Most OG mongers that still fly back to sosua is going because theyre on a time constraint and don't have the time to venture out and explore the island proper BUT they have their females arleady lined up as you do so when theses new mangoes try and quote you those outrageous prices you basically laugh in their face.
So when you see the young thundercats making it rain throwing money in the air just smile and continue to do your thing. They're paying for quick premium fast service from a hunny. Meanwhile you're getting good quality service from hunny for a fraction of the cost[/QUOTE]Problem with that is that your line up is not getting any younger. They are becoming old dried out mangoes, while the thundercats are getting all the fresh new booty. Old Kool likes to talk about how he is hitting the twenty-something year olds. Next year I hope he is liking to hit the thirty-something year olds, because that is what that same line up will be then. I know I have fucked chicks and seen them a couple of years later and been like ewww. To me mongering is about fucking new chicks. Is it even considered mongering if you are fucking the same 5 chicks over and over again?
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2495891]Honestly Oldkool at this point any senior monger that's been to Sousa atleast a couple times shouldn't be venturing to hunt directly in sosua and should only be going for nostalgia purpose. Most OG mongers that still fly back to sosua is going because theyre on a time constraint and don't have the time to venture out and explore the island proper BUT they have their females arleady lined up as you do so when theses new mangoes try and quote you those outrageous prices you basically laugh in their face. And the second is the comradery that guys over the years has made with one another. You meet good folks from all over so Sosua now becomes the home base for your friends and acquaintances that you forged threw out the years because it was there in Sosua that open your world to countless good times and good memories I. E. That nostalgia feeling.
So when you see the young thundercats making it rain throwing money in the air just smile and continue to do your thing. They're paying for quick premium fast service from a hunny. Meanwhile you're getting good quality service from hunny for a fraction of the cost with a smile on your face and a presidente in your hand as you lounge off sosua nostalgia.[/QUOTE]I agree the camaraderie was one of the best things about sosua! Back in the day rumbas would just be full of dudes who were all cool with each other! LOL. Good times!!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495980]I know I have fucked chicks and seen them a couple of years later and been like ewww. To me mongering is about fucking new chicks. Is it even considered mongering if you are fucking the same 5 chicks over and over again?[/QUOTE]That's A topic that can take wings. I'm seeing chicas who are in their early 20's now in their late 20's. Even though they may still have sex appeal; it ain't nothing like they were when they were younger. I've seen Chicas that were in their prime now ain't worth a dime. Some are just a sad sight to see. My current newly recruited chica (Zion Williams) has a nice shape but when I saw her body from two years ago I was like damn!
I think it's considered mongering as long as something of value is being exchanged for sexual services.
What I am surprised about is that young people are traveling for sex. I know for a fact that when I was young, I did not have the money for travel but there were females available in my neck of the woods. I started traveling when my work took me around the globe and I discovered the exotica. Nowadays, it is more like "I am not interested in joining the club that would have me" as Groucho Marx stated, I. E, club of older women in my vicinity and so I travel. Not sure then about the young stallions, irrespective of the color; so what gives?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2495947]I'm not there for nostalgia, I like to think I'm still in the game!
LOL.[/QUOTE]Oakie my brother you live daily in nothing but nostalgia LOL. That's the reason why you moved down there. To experience that great feeling you had when you first came down there over and over again on a daily basis. You've just adjusted to the daily living and not the way of the weekend warrior. You're on an island where fantasy, illusion and reality meet together as one. Prime example I bet everyday you turned down young hunnies all the time to the point you make the late great Hugh Heffner blush. Back in the states that just doesn't happen. If a fine young hunny dip throws a slight hint that she likes me, I'm on it like a hobo on a Thanksgiving turkey. And I have women here in the States. But down there everyday as you lounge on the beach and / or bar you come across or get word of a fresh young hunny dip that turns legal tender and is available. And because of the comradery you've made over the years no doubt you have great connections to the point where you honestly have to tell folks that you can no longer take any more women under your hareem because it's just to much. Now that's a great fucking situation to be in LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495980]Problem with that is that your line up is not getting any younger. They are becoming old dried out mangoes, while the thundercats are getting all the fresh new booty. [/QUOTE]Not necessarily. It may appear that the young thundercats are getting all the new talent BUT the true best ripe mangoes lies outside of Sosua. All those small towns and barrios are ripe full of plentiful young hunnies, you just got to get with the right folks to show you those areas and introduce you to new mangoes. Thats why I said it shouldn't bother the OGs that go down to sousa and have to deal with those make it rain cats, because at this point all your young mangoes should be outsourced and all your older mangoes that you've already sample should be on stand-by.
Comradeship is one thing when availability of women were plenty full. Few years ago Sosua was full of girls with not only locals but girls coming from all over DR. But lately partly with changes of previous mayor, restricting venues, military showing force situation has become different. Lots of girls are afraid to come to Sosua.
Right now the situation is each monger is for himself going after better looking chicas. This is not lost on the girls who demand more money and service less. Girls coming from outside are more likely to stay long time with you and enjoy. I have had many such encounters.
Although it may be difficult politically even with new mayor to re open Sosua like before it is necessary to re open clubs and bars and less restrictive police presence.
Till then there will be some jostling among mongers with respect to age, race, looks and ofcourse money.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2496143]What I am surprised about is that young people are traveling for sex. I know for a fact that when I was young, I did not have the money for travel but there were females available in my neck of the woods. I started traveling when my work took me around the globe and I discovered the exotica. Nowadays, it is more like "I am not interested in joining the club that would have me" as Groucho Marx stated, I. E, club of older women in my vicinity and so I travel. Not sure then about the young stallions, irrespective of the color; so what gives?[/QUOTE]I fall into that group of young dudes that go to Sosua I go because its simply easy and fun could I get a girlfriend in the states yes of course can I have 3 different woman a day everyday probably not and that what I want. Now a lot of the other young guys are dudes that do get chicks in the states but heard of Sosua and go maybe twice a year for a long weekend to party instead of going to Miami they going to Sosua they aren't hardcore mongers.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2496143]What I am surprised about is that young people are traveling for sex. I know for a fact that when I was young, I did not have the money for travel but there were females available in my neck of the woods. I started traveling when my work took me around the globe and I discovered the exotica. Nowadays, it is more like "I am not interested in joining the club that would have me" as Groucho Marx stated, I. E, club of older women in my vicinity and so I travel. Not sure then about the young stallions, irrespective of the color; so what gives?[/QUOTE]Its part of Natures humor. Men are there most virile (testosterone wise) before age 30. You want to hop everything swinging, and you can if given the opportunity, regardless of the number of pops a day. But it does not work that way. You will engage with quite a few girls in your age group before 33. But not enough to satisfy the beast nor equal anywhere near your body count in the same sexual span of the next 15 years ages 35 - 50.
Chiefly due to many of the girls in your age bracket are now being introduced to the world by older men willing to spend money. Free money, outfits, nice restaurants, vacations etc. And all she has to do is show up and sometimes not even put out. Along with the fact that many guys ages 18 to 33 are still working on getting on there feet financially and young girls don't go backwards. (Meaning she cant put out on your mamas couch once she has had sex with a guy in his own place or catch the bus on a date when the last dude had a car etc...) So your score card is still low in comparison to where you would like to have it due to the great equalizer MONEY.
So it makes more since that if you get knowledge of a low budget safe sex-cation, can afford it and you are willing to be adventurous for sex (very few guys aren't) you would take advantage of it.
I was in in the military at 18 and a large part of that decision to join was to f*%k new girls everywhere we would travel.
Think about it. Flip side for guys is after 35+ when your testosterone is dropping and you cant perform like you are 21 , women are now chasing you due to your more stable financial situation.
Its like someone flipped on the OPEN FOR BUSINESS light to signal the chicks to present themselves.
Natures Humor for guys.
I don't think their are many guys in here who can say their number of sexual partners did not increase significantly after age 35.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2496397]I fall into that group of young dudes that go to Sosua I go because its simply easy and fun could I get a girlfriend in the states yes of course can I have 3 different woman a day everyday probably not and that what I want. Now a lot of the other young guys are dudes that do get chicks in the states but heard of Sosua and go maybe twice a year for a long weekend to party instead of going to Miami they going to Sosua they aren't hardcore mongers.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear a young wolf perspective. Every young guy I took there enjoyed themselves. A few have returned a few more times. My financial situation is a little better so I get to enjoy more trips than them. They envy me because I can move like that. I envy them for their youth.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2496428]
I was in in the military at 18 and a large part of that decision to join was to f*%k new girls everywhere we would travel.
Think about it. Flip side for guys is after 35+ when your testosterone is dropping and you cant perform like you are 21 , women are now chasing you due to your more stable financial situation.
Its like someone flipped on the OPEN FOR BUSINESS light to signal the chicks to present themselves.
Natures Humor for guys.
I don't think their are many guys in here who can say their number of sexual partners did not increase significantly after age 35 [/QUOTE]Man I just thinking about my Rattlesnake days. Being in the military between the age of 19 and 23; Young and full of come. Every young single guy that came to my unit; the first sergeant will introduce them to me. I was the hook up man because I had so many. I was at my youthful peak averaging about three new girls a month while still juggling some old ones.
Now I am older and financially Lucky to make it to this point in life. I can honestly say I've had more relations in the last seven years than total in my life. 15 to 32 is 17 years of being single and free at my sexual peak. 3 to 4 years of a drought. I've past my sexual and Physical peak however financially I'm more stable. As a result, I'm able to have double the amount of relations in my older years.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2496462]Man I just thinking about my Rattlesnake days. Being in the military between the age of 19 and 23; Young and full of come. Every young single guy that came to my unit; the first sergeant will introduce them to me. I was the hook up man because I had so many. I was at my youthful peak averaging about three new girls a month while still juggling some old ones.[/QUOTE]LOL. No lie Gman, I was a late bloomer and at 19 my body count was low till the older brothers in my barracks took pity on my situation an held an intervention for me.
They sat me down and pointed out my problem and created a monster.
The deal was I only dated and shagged what I considered the perfect 10's. Problem was I would go a month or more at a time with no sex due to only wanting the baddest.
This is what they laid down:
Rule #1 - You need a squad / bench of chicks that want to do the deed with you. Including the chicks that want you badly but do not fit your description of a 10. And more importantly manage their expectations, never call or f&%K one more than twice in a month or stand the chance she will become a problem.
Rule #2 - Keep your eyes open and ears attentive for the hints of older women. Cougars. Due to social stigma she can't be seen overtly wooing you however she can't wait to experience that taboo and hopes to be blessed to find a younger guy mature and quiet enough to let her get her freak on. (In my 50's and I still create a cougar category to knock off).
Rule #3 Constantly be adding on to your squad with new chicks. Some chicks will disappear at times and you don't need to pay the price of not having options for the night.
I've added on to these over the Decades.
If she pushing free pussy on you and she "aint your type" Make it your duty to add her to the roster anyway if she is manageable.
She may not be your cup of tea today but ill bet when you are tired of eating steak, you are going to want some chicken or shrimp.
Why look a gift blowjob horse in the mouth?
Never forget every women is a perfect 10 to somebody.
Most powerful. You will definitely feel and appreciate the difference between a girl you fucked and a girl who is dying to fuck you.
In the 1970's my brother was part of a group of dudes who were womanizers who banged multiple new women consecutively sometimes surreptitiously exchanging among themselves. They had the fast cars, sharp clothes and slick moves. I was not part of that group. These guys eventually got married and had happy matrimonial lives without cheating and those who are alive today are doting grand parents. Not one ever became a monger. I was never part of that group.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2496470] (In my 50's and I still create a cougar category to knock off).
[/QUOTE]In my 20's and 30's I Dealt with the cougars. They were in their Late 30's and 40's. Now I'm sorry I don't find them interesting anymore. I think the last straw was seeing the tarantula. She was about 48 and I was in my mid-30's. Her vagina had gray hairs and reminded me of looking at a tarantula. At have point I lost my passion a attraction for cougars.
Now I do respect Women who maintain their youthful shapes and still Attractive looks for their age. (I called them Wine). Thees women are basically between the ages of 35 to 55. Cuba comes to mind of having noticeably attractive middle-age women. However, unless she is Jayda Pickett Smith's mother no more cougars for me.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2496618]In my 20's and 30's I Dealt with the cougars. They were in their Late 30's and 40's. Now I'm sorry I don't find them interesting anymore. I think the last straw was seeing the tarantula. She was about 48 and I was in my mid-30's. Her vagina had gray hairs and reminded me of looking at a tarantula. At have point I lost my passion a attraction for cougars.
Now I do respect Women who maintain their youthful shapes and still Attractive looks for their age. (I called them Wine). Thees women are basically between the ages of 35 to 55. Cuba comes to mind of having noticeably attractive middle-age women. However, unless she is Jayda Pickett Smith's mother no more cougars for me.[/QUOTE]I remember that happening to me one time with a woman in the states I had been seeing for about 10 years. The moment I saw grey hairs on her cooch my attraction immediately went down. I have one on the team in SD who is older but she keeps herself up very well. She was a regular at the piano bar in BC. If you've been there you would recognize her. Same seat every night always dressed classy. I still see her every time I come in town.
[QUOTE=DcGogo;2496644]I remember that happening to me one time with a woman in the states I had been seeing for about 10 years. The moment I saw grey hairs on her cooch my attraction immediately went down. I have one on the team in SD who is older but she keeps herself up very well. She was a regular at the piano bar in BC. If you've been there you would recognize her. Same seat every night always dressed classy. I still see her every time I come in town.[/QUOTE]She kind of favors one of my chicas.
I didn't do this video but I just saw it and I wanted to share it here!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-_zcBKr6g&ab_channel=apd23[/URL]
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2496271]Oakie my brother you live daily in nothing but nostalgia LOL. That's the reason why you moved down there. To experience that great feeling you had when you first came down there over and over again on a daily basis. You've just adjusted to the daily living and not the way of the weekend warrior. You're on an island where fantasy, illusion and reality meet together as one. Prime example I bet everyday you turned down young hunnies all the time to the point you make the late great Hugh Heffner blush. Back in the states that just doesn't happen. If a fine young hunny dip throws a slight hint that she likes me, I'm on it like a hobo on a Thanksgiving turkey. And I have women here in the States. But down there everyday as you lounge on the beach and / or bar you come across or get word of a fresh young hunny dip that turns legal tender and is available. And because of the comradery you've made over the years no doubt you have great connections to the point where you honestly have to tell folks that you can no longer take any more women under your hareem because it's just to much. Now that's a great fucking situation to be in LOL.[/QUOTE]I learned late in life that having women friends is a female aphrodisiac. Almost as good as money. They see how you are with other women. I don't recall having a female friend after leaving school. I was only interested in fucking. Later I hung with guys who did have girl "friends", and it opened up a new world for me.
Now I got a few, and their friends have friends, and there's always a party. I sometimes take them to to beach, go to their parties, but don't have to be fucking them all the time. My regular takes care of that. She lets me do my thing, as long as she approves and I swear only she is my true love, LOL.
And yeah, there's always a new one popping up in the crowd, and I'm pre-vetted!
Yep, I got it good.
But, is it "mongering"?
Who fucking cares! LOL.
This is my second trip to the Su. First one was 2 years ago. Due to Covid travel restrictions in other countries, this was a no brainer. I had a great time last time, and even better this year. The weather was perfect all week (10-30 to 11-8), but that's besides the point. I stayed at Casa Valeria again this year, and highly recommend it. This year, girls were posted up at Casa Valeria, and that was new to me. But it was pretty convenient, and I pulled a lot of girls from the bar there. Especially in the morning right after breakfast. Just finish breakfast and head right upstairs for a quickie to start the day! The girls at CV all wanted 3,000 for ST and I was ok with that. I pulled a few girls around Chez Montreal and from Pedro Clisante for 2,000 and would usually tip 500. I finally made it up to Ahnvee my last night there, Sat 11/7, and found a real gem for 3,000 again. I played golf 3 times at Playa Dorada and had a great time. Took a day trip to Santiago one day and a trip to Playa Grande one day. It was nice to see more of the country on the drives. I spent several days at Sosua Beach. Really love that beach! Not going to make this a long winded trip report going over the details of every night. That pretty much covers the basics. I didn't remember to take pics of every chica, but here are a few. First 3 are girls who would hang out at CV. Last one is my gem from Ahnvee. Peace.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2500917]This is my second trip to the Su. First one was 2 years ago. Due to Covid travel restrictions in other countries, this was a no brainer. I had a great time last time, and even better this year. [/QUOTE]Thanks. Glad that you had an even better time. Casa Valeria is a no brainer; To me, it is the best location and also in quality of the rooms and services. I am surprised though that one can find women there. At least I did not see any during my trip in Sept but then I was not exactly looking.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2500917]This is my second trip to the Su. First one was 2 years ago. Due to Covid travel restrictions in other countries, this was a no brainer.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you had such a good time and what a beautiful pair of tits of the girl in the first picture ufff! You are so lucky!
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2500917]This is my second trip to the Su. First one was 2 years ago. Due to Covid travel restrictions in other countries, this was a no brainer. I had a great time last time, and even better this year. The weather was perfect all week (10-30 to 11-8), but that's besides the point. I stayed at Casa Valeria again this year, and highly recommend it. This year, girls were posted up at Casa Valeria, and that was new to me. But it was pretty convenient, and I pulled a lot of girls from the bar there. Especially in the morning right after breakfast. Just finish breakfast and head right upstairs for a quickie to start the day! The girls at CV all wanted 3,000 for ST and I was ok with that. I pulled a few girls around Chez Montreal and from Pedro Clisante for 2,000 and would usually tip 500. I finally made it up to Ahnvee my last night there, Sat 11/7, and found a real gem for 3,000 again. I played golf 3 times at Playa Dorada and had a great time. Took a day trip to Santiago one day and a trip to Playa Grande one day. It was nice to see more of the country on the drives. I spent several days at Sosua Beach. Really love that beach! Not going to make this a long winded trip report going over the details of every night. That pretty much covers the basics. I didn't remember to take pics of every chica, but here are a few. First 3 are girls who would hang out at CV. Last one is my gem from Ahnvee. Peace.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pics. I was looking at these girls and they remind me of similar local girls I have had in Trinidad where I spent many years for work. BTW the girls in Trinidad provide excellent service, much better than Dominicanas. I suspect some of them do it as much for the sex as for money.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2501469]Thanks for the pics. I was looking at these girls and they remind me of similar local girls I have had in Trinidad where I spent many years for work. BTW the girls in Trinidad provide excellent service, much better than Dominicanas. I suspect some of them do it as much for the sex as for money.[/QUOTE]Trinidad is on my list on islands to see. Have you gone recently? Do you have a hotel recommendation? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2501469]BTW the girls in Trinidad provide excellent service, much better than Dominicanas. [/QUOTE]Are you talking about the island? I was there, that is one of the worst fucking places for mongering; been there, done that!
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2501659]Are you talking about the island? I was there, that is one of the worst fucking places for mongering; been there, done that![/QUOTE]I know the island well. Worked there for many years. Living there you get to sample the casas where I got the local girls I was referring to. Similar to those in his post and I guarantee you 10+ times better service. These girls are horny. I avoided the bars which is where the tourists go; in these bars you get the Latinas who are substandard compared to those in their native countries.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2501497]Trinidad is on my list on islands to see. Have you gone recently? Do you have a hotel recommendation? Thanks![/QUOTE]I did not stay in hotels but rented apartments. However, most of the hotels are girl friendly even big names like Hilton, Hyatt. Just be friendly to male front desk personnel and you'd be ok, so I've been told.
Can somebody tell me or confirm if the Ahnvee has been shut down this morning.
I received the email that 15 trucks came to clean the place out this morning.
[QUOTE=Scotch;2504051]Can somebody tell me or confirm if the Ahnvee has been shut down this morning.
I received the email that 15 trucks came to clean the place out this morning.[/QUOTE]I am getting conflicting reports. Two people told me it is closed and two people said it is still open. Trying to get more Intel.
[QUOTE=Scotch;2504051]Can somebody tell me or confirm if the Ahnvee has been shut down this morning.
I received the email that 15 trucks came to clean the place out this morning.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at Ahnvee hotel last year. It is a group of buildings with apartments. The owner / manager told me many of the units are owned by people and live there. Only the section building on the right side is rented as rooms. They have an office, bar cum restaurant, pool in common area. They also have upstairs bar in another building. I do not know what items 15 trucks will take apart from rundown old furniture. The restaurant is run on a lease by somebody else. Only the bars are run by the management. There is nothing apart from buildings. If the owner owes money and cannot repay it will be the buildings cordoned off to be sold.
Ahnvee is history. About 15 trucks pulled up and stripped it down. First they took the outdoor furniture then the rooms. Tvs, refrigerators and A / see units are being hauled out. I'm hearing the bank has seized the property for non payment.
I heard that people were turned away from entering. Looks like a Tax seizure to me.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2504176]I heard that people were turned away from entering. Looks like a Tax seizure to me.
Trip.[/QUOTE]Still guessing but It may very well be a tax seizure. Just received a video of activety occurring at AHNVEE. The bar is open but they have haphazardly put together mismatched furniture for people to use assuming the video was authentic and from today. Stay tuned.
[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2504163]I am getting conflicting reports. Two people told me it is closed and two people said it is still open. Trying to get more Intel.[/QUOTE]I just heard they are getting new stuff.
Ahnvess was the only place that made Sosua still relevant. Who knows what will be next but something will fill the void but when is the guestion. If I was in Sosua now I would be pissed. Maybe Rumbas can increase there hours and options. This is a sad day for the lovers of Sosua. Superbowl activities could be in jeparrty.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2504222]Ahnvess was the only place that made Sosua still relevant. Who knows what will be next but something will fill the void but when is the guestion. If I was in Sosua now I would be pissed. Maybe Rumbas can increase there hours and options. This is a sad day for the lovers of Sosua. Superbowl activities could be in jeparrty.[/QUOTE]As of tonight Anhvee is open. That's all I know. We will get the real story at some point in the future. But for now they are open.
[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2504574]As of tonight Anhvee is open. That's all I know. We will get the real story at some point in the future. But for now they are open.[/QUOTE]They said the guy Brian or whatever his name is owe some people some money and doesn't want to pay up so they came and took the furniture.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2504650]They said the guy Brian or whatever his name is owe some people some money and doesn't want to pay up so they came and took the furniture.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I'm slow, but Anhvee can't be the only place to play. Been in Sosua before and there were plenty of ladies to meet.
What changed? The curfew is over.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2505538]Sorry if I'm slow, but Anhvee can't be the only place to play. Been in Sosua before and there were plenty of ladies to meet.
What changed? The curfew is over.[/QUOTE]As of now the curfew is until December 1. It is not about staying at Ahnvee, but that is supposedly the place where a higher quality and higher quantity of chicks hang out at certain times.
All night clubs are closed and most bars Ahnvee uses a resort exemption to allow to allow quest for partying. Restaurants are alloewd open until curfew times. 9 pm Monday to Friday. 7 pm on the weekend. If Ahvee is closed Sosua is basicaly shut down.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2505538]Sorry if I'm slow, but Anhvee can't be the only place to play. Been in Sosua before and there were plenty of ladies to meet.
What changed? The curfew is over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2505587]All night clubs are closed and most bars Ahnvee uses a resort exemption to allow to allow quest for partying. Restaurants are alloewd open until curfew times. 9 pm Monday to Friday. 7 pm on the weekend. If Ahvee is closed Sosua is basicaly shut down.[/QUOTE]Reading thru the forum got the impression ladies hanging out at Casa Valeria. Hook up before 20:00 and then TLN.
Stayed at Casa Valeria. Bar remained open until 11:00 or 12:00 depending on crowed. Plenty of ladies-one day 9 girls per guy. Went to Ahnvee on a slow Monday and pickens were a little slim. Plenty of eye candy and nicely dressed. Better value at Casa. Lots of good stuff on the East West main drag from the taxi stand.
What I liked was being able to send the lady home, sleep, and not worry about personal stuff.
Casa was great with getting IDs to keep everyone honest.
There are a few very good massage places South of Casa.
P chop.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2511799]Stayed at Casa Valeria. Bar remained open until 11:00 or 12:00 depending on crowed. Plenty of ladies-one day 9 girls per guy. Went to Ahnvee on a slow Monday and pickens were a little slim. Plenty of eye candy and nicely dressed. Better value at Casa. Lots of good stuff on the East West main drag from the taxi stand.
What I liked was being able to send the lady home, sleep, and not worry about personal stuff.
Casa was great with getting IDs to keep everyone honest.
There are a few very good massage places South of Casa.
P chop.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I'm heading to Sosua next month and I was wondering how things were there.
[QUOTE=TruLife;2511847]Thanks for the report. I'm heading to Sosua next month and I was wondering how things were there.[/QUOTE]Sosua is alive and well.
It is going thru the COVID "crisis" as well or better than most places. Many bars are now open or re-opened for Christmas, Hotel Central, Blue Ice, Meringue, Rumba, Matteo, Jolly Roger all rocking but curfew is a real problem for newbies.
We expats can be found partying on in the back rooms of some bars, away from the street, but not wise to advertise them here.
The street action in centered around Calle Dr Rosen, and some stunners can be found.
DR is still producing as many dime chicas as ever and they are hungry for dinero for Navidad.
Happy holidays to all visitors and regulars!
Oakie.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2512939]Sosua is alive and well.
It is going thru the COVID "crisis" as well or better than most places. Many bars are now open or re-opened for Christmas, Hotel Central, Blue Ice, Meringue, Rumba, Matteo, Jolly Roger all rocking but curfew is a real problem for newbies.
We expats can be found partying on in the back rooms of some bars, away from the street, but not wise to advertise them here.
The street action in centered around Calle Dr Rosen, and some stunners can be found.
DR is still producing as many dime chicas as ever and they are hungry for dinero for Navidad.
Happy holidays to all visitors and regulars!
Oakie.[/QUOTE]Yes the party goes on. In Santo Domingo the rooftops are the party places after 7 pm. Get some liquor, Bluetooth speaker, chairs and girls and it's on. Actually I've been a curfew violator for awhile. My boy has a penthouse on Independecia and me and and my boys (two regular posters here) left his penthouse after 11 pm after having the girls cook up some fish and entertain us. Weaving through the dark streets at night hiding from cops was interesting. I'm headed to Sosua in a few days with a newbie from my old job and I'm seeing spots in Sosua saying the party is inside after 7 pm.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2513015]Yes the party goes on. In Santo Domingo the rooftops are the party places after 7 pm. Get some liquor, Bluetooth speaker, chairs and girls and it's on. Actually I've been a curfew violator for awhile. My boy has a penthouse on Independecia and me and and my boys (two regular posters here) left his penthouse after 11 pm after having the girls cook up some fish and entertain us. Weaving through the dark streets at night hiding from cops was interesting. I'm headed to Sosua in a few days with a newbie from my old job and I'm seeing spots in Sosua saying the party is inside after 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to a report on your latest Sosua trip, MrG.
The good, bad and the ugly!
It's all good info!
Got to Sosua a couple of days back, via STI. Terrible arrival, before immigration, with about 400 people milling around at that ungodly madrugada. Took over an hour to get out.
Went for Christmas eve dinner at the New Italian restaurant. The fixed menu is in the picture. The restaurant is at Sosua Bay hotel, beyond the casino. Dinner for me (one person) was about 2100 pesos, left 2500 pesos.
The weather so far, coming from where I come from, is fantastic. Blue sky and about 70 degrees, nights are balmy too.
Nothing to speak of regarding women. One thought struck me though. I was at New Garden last night for an after dinner cafe and grappa. There were a bunch of NY / Chicago kind (no mask and about 7-8 of this kind) and the women accompanying were with big butt, fake eyelashes and in very enviable one piece lycras, leaving nothing to imagination. The Germans and Europeans on the other hand, have these skinny kinds around them. Interesting contrasts.
Hey guys. Been a moderately generous contributor here, but not of late (just haven't been anywhere).
Headed to Sosua Thursday to Sunday next week staying at Casa Valeria; 50's, tall strawberry blonde dude if you want to say Hello,.
I'm a bit confused about what's going on there. Some guys seem to be suggesting that all is well, that places are open fairly late while other guys say nothing to speak of regarding women.
I've been to Sosua going on 15 years; I guess about 10–12 trips over the years, and really haven't kept up with any girls as I prefer variety and don't like the requests for money when I'm away.
So no harem to fall back on.
Anyhow, I'm happy to go online if need be; badoo is best or otherwise? But I figured I'the ask for a bit of help if that's not necessary.
I prefer innocent Haitians to hard core Dominicans.
Thanks everyone and be safe!
Chris.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2518842]I'm a bit confused about what's going on there. Some guys seem to be suggesting that all is well, that places are open fairly late while other guys say nothing to speak of regarding women.[/QUOTE]Who are these guys that say all is well and things are open late? Did they happen to mention there is a noon curfew on weekends and a 5 pm curfew on weekdays in DR? Last I heard/saw Sosua is a ghost town. See for yourself in the video from 3 days ago. The world is pretty much shut down. If you just have to go somewhere with chicks at the moment then I would suggest Rio de Janeiro and Medellin as your best bets.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/detrasdelrumor/videos/161387022439541/[/URL]
I just came back from 10 days in Sosua over Christmas. The curfew did get stricter right after I left though. I keep in contact with girls in between trips so that did help when I was there. Badoo did produce some results. The other app which is decent for finding girls is tagged. When I was there I did notice there were girls out earlier. They were out late morning up until things shutting down around 6 for the 7 pm curfew. The girls can still move around after curfew but they have to take an approved taxi which adds to the costs. I just found it easier to make morning appointments with girls that aren't too far. Its the DR. Just because there's a curfew it doesn't mean that suddenly there aren't any girls who need to sell their body for money. You just have to figure out how to find them because the street traffic is down overall yes. The social media platforms have never let me down! It all depends on what your goals for the trip are. You will not be hanging out in the street until midnight.
Holy Shit. You aren't kidding.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518854]Who are these guys that say all is well and things are open late? Did they happen to mention there is a noon curfew on weekends and a 5 pm curfew on weekdays in DR? Last I heard/saw Sosua is a ghost town. See for yourself in the video from 3 days ago. The world is pretty much shut down. If you just have to go somewhere with chicks at the moment then I would suggest Rio de Janeiro and Medellin as your best bets.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/detrasdelrumor/videos/161387022439541/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2518939]Holy Shit. You aren't kidding.[/QUOTE]No need to panic. Women still need the money and there are still guys looking for women. Of course, if you are picking from the streets, as the other poster mentioned, you may have to start looking earlier in the day rather than at night or afternoon, given that there is a curfew that starts early evening. Not to speak of midday on the weekend. I just came back from there after spending a week. I personally do not pick people off the street I. E, having a harem, pays off but as they say, it is what it is but life still goes on.
The video looked to be during the day. Are restaurants open or I have to cook for.
Myself?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2518994]No need to panic. Women still need the money and there are still guys looking for women. Of course, if you are picking from the streets, as the other poster mentioned, you may have to start looking earlier in the day rather than at night or afternoon, given that there is a curfew that starts early evening. Not to speak of midday on the weekend. I just came back from there after spending a week. I personally do not pick people off the street I. E, having a harem, pays off but as they say, it is what it is but life still goes on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2519034]The video looked to be during the day. Are restaurants open or I have to cook for.
Myself?[/QUOTE]Well, right now the hotels are open and so are their bars. But they close early due to the curfew. Some regular bars manage to stay open during the day, ostensibly to serve take out food, while you wait. LOL.
Enforcement is spotty, and selective, because everybody expects the bars and restaurants to be back open on Monday.
The cops drove right past my crowded bar yesterday and we we partying with 3 of my favorite bartenders who have been shut down. They are were bored, hungry and looking for clients.
Meanwhile the main Beach is open and so are the restaurants so I promised to take them down there for the afternoon. Lunch and beer, and they are happy and can meet all their friends down there while I kick back and watch the show.
I suppose if you are a non drinker here, you are severely restricted from the remaining action, and it's no place for you.
So the problem for the casual visitor is the lack of street action, but I rather be here than back in my country where its cold, miserable and almost completely shut down, no bars. Restaurants except for delivery.
(As usual IMHO, and YMMV).
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2519034]The video looked to be during the day. Are restaurants open or I have to cook for Myself?[/QUOTE]If you were a newbie, I would probably suggest that you hold off your visit, given that there are uncertainties with curfew hours and even incoming flights, after 1/10. On the other hand, if you can get over there, I am sure Sosua will cook up all sorts of stuff for you. Restaurants of all kinds, the burger / fried chicken or the local I. E, Dominican as well the fancy Italian / German kind are all working, within the constraint of limited hours.
I came back from there in the new year and I ate plenty in the restaurants.
If you come to Sosua, you can find hotels open and operating normally for guests. Most hotels allow guests, so hooking up is not a problem. Day staff must be home 3 hours after the 5 PM weekday curfew, (12 noon on weekends) Curfews are not enforced within hotel properties, but you cannot be on the street, except for valid emergencies and ticketed travel.
In town and on the beach, colmados, bars and restaurants are now allowed open at 50% seating capacity during non curfew hours, and delivery is available till 11 PM.
Tourists are still arriving at the POP airport.
The major problem for visitors appears to be the testing and quarantine requirements on arrival back in the home country.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2520776]If you come to Sosua, you can find hotels open and operating normally for guests. Most hotels allow guests, so hooking up is not a problem. Day staff must be home 3 hours after the 5 PM weekday curfew, (12 noon on weekends) Curfews are not enforced within hotel properties, but you cannot be on the street, except for valid emergencies and ticketed travel.
In town and on the beach, colmados, bars and restaurants are now allowed open at 50% seating capacity during non curfew hours, and delivery is available till 11 PM.
Tourists are still arriving at the POP airport.
The major problem for visitors appears to be the testing and quarantine requirements on arrival back in the home country.[/QUOTE]But are the chicas out and about before curfew?
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2521140]But are the chicas out and about before curfew?[/QUOTE]Obviously not in great numbers. You can still find them strolling the beach, and around the bars, but the organized ones use their smart phones now to stay in touch with their clients.
On another note, all the main spots have wi fi, but after getting frustrated with the spotty signal on my laptop at my apartment, I got my Iphone set up as a "personal hot spot" with Altice for 1000 pesos per month. Works like a charm. Don't know what took me so long.
For me happiness is a fast internet connection in these curfew times.
I was planning a trip (as usual, for a week) in February which is now in disarray. For return the expectation is to have a negative test report, otherwise boarding a flight will not be possible. So, my question, to the Expats on this forum and residing in the vicinity, is: is such a thing even possible, test report within 3 days of departure and if so, where and at what cost? Understandably this will hamstring a lot of short term tourists including in the All Inclusive, in this high season, that the DR government is trying to woo back.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2521976]I was planning a trip (as usual, for a week) in February which is now in disarray. For return the expectation is to have a negative test report, otherwise boarding a flight will not be possible. So, my question, to the Expats on this forum and residing in the vicinity, is: is such a thing even possible, test report within 3 days of departure and if so, where and at what cost? Understandably this will hamstring a lot of short term tourists including in the All Inclusive, in this high season, that the DR government is trying to woo back.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.[/QUOTE]I posted on this topic recently, link below:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?611-General-Info&p=2521650&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2521650.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2521976]I was planning a trip (as usual, for a week) in February which is now in disarray. For return the expectation is to have a negative test report, otherwise boarding a flight will not be possible. So, my question, to the Expats on this forum and residing in the vicinity, is: is such a thing even possible, test report within 3 days of departure and if so, where and at what cost? Understandably this will hamstring a lot of short term tourists including in the All Inclusive, in this high season, that the DR government is trying to woo back.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.drtravelcenter.com/questions/where-can-i-have-a-pcr-test-done-in-the-dominican-republic-with-results-48-to-72-hours-before-the-trip-back-to-my-country/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cestme;2522025][URL]https://www.drtravelcenter.com/questions/where-can-i-have-a-pcr-test-done-in-the-dominican-republic-with-results-48-to-72-hours-before-the-trip-back-to-my-country/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. I sent both labs a whatsapp message asking those questions, especially in view of the fact that the website shows they want a doctor's requisition as well as an insurance card, which a tourist would not have. Let's see what if any, the response is.
Thanks again.
There was a recent order from the CDC (USA) requiring all passengers have a COVID test 3 days prior to departure to USA.
I'm not sure if it applies to US citizens. Also not sure what date this requirement expires.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2522305]Thanks. I sent both labs a whatsapp message asking those questions, especially in view of the fact that the website shows they want a doctor's requisition as well as an insurance card, which a tourist would not have. Let's see what if any, the response is.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Tempoecorto. It will be very helpful to know what the labs answers are. On the other hand, I discovered that to attract international tourists during this pandemic period, the DR is offering free medical coverage plus charges for any change to return flight dates due to illness, including Covid 19 while in the DR, from now until March 31st. To be a beneficiary, you will have to fly into the DR and check-in a hotel where there is an insurance form to be completed for the coverage. I assume that this also covers the Covid 19 test, for departure from the DR. For more details, google: Travel Assistance Certificate Safe Tourism DR.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2522361]It will be very helpful to know what the labs answers are. On the other hand, I discovered that to attract international tourists during this pandemic period, the DR is offering free medical coverage plus charges for any change to return flight dates due to illness, including Covid 19 while in the DR, [/QUOTE]Yes, I too have read what you and others have but it has no relevance for me. I do not go to AI and am not going to bet on what the DR government is or is not going to do. I have to find out what I can get done locally in the POP area and will decide accordingly if I want to undertake the trip. If it is easy, efficient and does not cost an arm and a leg, I may try for my short week long trip.
Sure, I will post any eventual answers from these two labs. So far this morning nothing. Not too surprising, that!
When I was there for Christmas there was a guy that had just gotten a covid test done. I asked him where he went and he said there is a place close to the superpollo supermarket that he went to. I don't remember all the details but the way he was talking it seemed like a cheap quick easy process.
Flew in from JFK to POP Thursday am, had planned to leave Sunday am.
Decided to leave a day earlier, not bc I had a bad time, but I bore easily.
Stayed at Casa Valeria. Not high end and expensive for what it is but convenient. I will say their food is excellent.
American breakfast, a nice sautéed fish with garlic and the goat dish with rice all top notch. Bar open as late as you want; but average looking girls. I think the girls are ok looking at best in general, but that's just me. After about 22 they start to gain weight and get hardened looking. Tough life; I feel for them. With the exception of a few taller Dominicanas, but they know it and are much less enthusiastic in bed. My Spanish is fairly non-existent, so Google translate works but isn't great for pillow talk. So I stuck with nice bodied Haitianas.
Lots of girls on the street and plenty at the hotel Inez or whatever it's called. Curfew is the real deal with all businesses closed. A few stragglers on the street but I definitely did not feel comfortable walking around a deserted street after curfew hours, not for safety reasons but I don't want trouble with police. But a taxi is fine and you can go wherever in what at pretty much anytime.
I think you will find it a worthwhile trip.
Hotel ibex (out whatever it's called is open is very nice with multiple bars and there has to have been 100 girls there, $500 President to get in, not sure what girls pay.
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2522531]When I was there for Christmas there was a guy that had just gotten a covid test done. I asked him where he went and he said there is a place close to the superpollo supermarket that he went to. I don't remember all the details but the way he was talking it seemed like a cheap quick easy process.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Another friend of mine told me about a place, close to La Pola (or is it Super pola? Called Clinica Centro Medico, I believe. I have been trying now to find out if they do the PCR test which is the nose swab thing and acceptable to the airline / CDC. The whole thing is relatively easy, at least in my home town. I did it two times last year, sitting in my car and the results got sent over by secure web access within 24 hours. I am however curious as to what happens in the DR. In terms of the process.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2522807]
Hotel ibex (out whatever it's called is open is very nice with multiple bars and there has to have been 100 girls there, $500 President to get in, not sure what girls pay.[/QUOTE]Where is this hotel and bar?
[QUOTE=Sammon;2522931]Where is this hotel and bar?[/QUOTE]I think he means Anhvee.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2522832]I am however curious as to what happens in the DR. In terms of the process.[/QUOTE]Well when I got chosen randomly at the airport I only had to blow into an empty plastic tube then they went in the back to run the tests on it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2522954]Well when I got chosen randomly at the airport I only had to blow into an empty plastic tube then they went in the back to run the tests on it.[/QUOTE]Ah OK. I am speaking of the lab report to fly back home. CDC requires a RT-PCR test and I have a feeling that, it is not so common in the DR, also because the antibody / antigen tests are a lot cheaper, from what I am hearing.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2522346]There was a recent order from the CDC (USA) requiring all passengers have a COVID test 3 days prior to departure to USA.
I'm not sure if it applies to US citizens. Also not sure what date this requirement expires.[/QUOTE]Yep, effective on the 26th. For everyone flying into the US, expiry of this would be when the pandemic subsides, in other words your guess is as good as anyones. Best to check with CDC website, info may be more reliable than a monger board.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2522832]Thanks for that. Another friend of mine told me about a place, close to La Pola (or is it Super pola? Called Clinica Centro Medico, I believe. I have been trying now to find out if they do the PCR test..........[/QUOTE]That would be our local emergency hospital, locally referred to as the "carniceria". Mainly occupied with moto casualties. Stay away from there if you can.
I was there for 3 days last year with a severe bladder infection, and they wanted to cut me up. If my regular had not took charge got me out of there, I might still be there, LOL.
There should be other alternatives available for the test.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2522832]Thanks for that. Another friend of mine told me about a place, close to La Pola (or is it Super pola? Called Clinica Centro Medico, I believe. I have been trying now to find out if they do the PCR test which is the nose swab thing and acceptable to the airline / CDC. The whole thing is relatively easy, at least in my home town. I did it two times last year, sitting in my car and the results got sent over by secure web access within 24 hours. I am however curious as to what happens in the DR. In terms of the process.[/QUOTE]I had written to this Hospital / Clinic of Sosua yesterday by email. They confirmed earlier today that they do only Antigen / Antibody tests and not the PCR test. This means I and all others will now will have to figure out where around Sosua the test is available and soon as the CDC directive would be effective 26th onwards. The Canadians are already impacted by such a rule for return.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2523122]There should be other alternatives available for the test.[/QUOTE]The Canadian Consulate sent me this morning a response to my query. I am only including those valid for the North Coast. By the way, CMC in Sosua only does the Antigen test. Not valid for flying.
Good day,
Thank you for contacting the Canadian Consulate in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic.
We understand you have enquiries regarding the mandatory requirement for a pre-departure COVID-19 testing and negative results to be required for all air travellers coming to Canada.
Effective midnight on January 7, 2021 (00:00 EST or 05:00 UCT), regardless of citizenship, all travellers five years of age or older must provide proof of a negative laboratory test result for COVID-19 to the airline prior to boarding a flight to Canada.
Acceptable tests.
The test must be performed using one of two types of COVID-19 testseither a molecular polymerase chain reaction (PCR) or Loop-mediated Isothermal Amplification (LAMP) and must be conducted within 96 hours of the traveller's scheduled departure to Canada.
Proof to board a flight.
All travellers coming to Canada must present proof of a negative laboratory test result for COVID-19 at the time of boarding. Failure to do so will mean an automatic denial of boarding by the airline operating the flight to Canada.
Clinics and labs for covid-19 tests.
Puerto Plata.
Centro medico bournigal.
Calle antera mota 138, Puerto Plata 57000, Dominican republic.
Hours: open 24 hours.
Phone: +1 809-586-2342.
[url]https://www.Centromedicobournigal.Com[/url]
No appointment needed. Person must go directly to the emergency room.
Pcr rd4,500.00 (cad100.00) results within 5 days.
Laboratorio referencia.
Address: see / antera mota #70, plaza milano, regiand norte, Puerto Plata 57000.
Phone number: 809-261-8181.
[url]https://www.Labreferencia.Com/covid/[/url]
Cost: 4,500 dop.
Time required: results are in after 48 h call for appointment.
Or by whatsapp, must send id, insurance card, doctors prescription.
Santiago.
Referencia.
Address: plaza el jardand, av. 27 de febrero esq, Santiago de los caballeros 51000.
Phone number: 809-221-5545.
[url]https://www.Labreferencia.Com/covid/[/url]
Cost: 4,500 dop.
Time required: results are in after 48 h call for appointment.
Or by whatsapp, must send id, insurance card, doctors prescription.
Laboratorio amadita.
Address: av. Bartolom coland esq. Av. Texas, plaza comercial texas jardines metropolitanos.
Phone number: (809) 724-1665/ (809) 682-5414 / (809) 621-5414.
Cost: 4,300 dop / free with insurance.
Time required: 48 to 72 h. Appointments can be made through the website.
[url]https://covid19.Amadita.Com/[/url]
Appointments are available online after 7 am everyday.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2522987]Ah OK. I am speaking of the lab report to fly back home. CDC requires a RT-PCR test and I have a feeling that, it is not so common in the DR, also because the antibody / antigen tests are a lot cheaper, from what I am hearing.[/QUOTE]I thought that the antigen test was the same as an antibody test. But I was corrected on that. It is not. The antigen test is a test for active Covid and my understanding is that it is acceptable for people returning to US after the 26th. It would not be accepted for flights to Canada as I understand. Of course a negative result on either the PCR or the antigen test is needed.
The antibody test is for testing whether you have had Covid, and are presumably immune. On that a positive result would be an indication of probable immunity, but this is not acceptable for travel anywhere. It is also known as serology test.
Moral of the story. If you have had Covid and recovered you will still need a test with a negative result for having Covid. Before you fly to Canada or US.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2523239]I thought that the antigen test was the same as an antibody test. But I was corrected on that. It is not. The antigen test is a test for active Covid and my understanding is that it is acceptable for people returning to US after the 26th. It would not be accepted for flights to Canada as I understand. Of course a negative result on either the PCR or the antigen test is needed.
The antibody test is for testing whether you have had Covid, and are presumably immune. On that a positive result would be an indication of probable immunity, but this is not acceptable for travel anywhere. It is also known as serology test.
Moral of the story. If you have had Covid and recovered you will still need a test with a negative result for having Covid. Before you fly to Canada or US.[/QUOTE]It is also my understanding that either of the two viral tests, PCR or Antigen, is accepted to board a flight to the United States. I also think that the cost for the Covid test is covered by the Ministry of Tourism of the Dominican Republic under the current free healthcare coverage that the Dominican Republic is offering to international travelers in the DR, to boost tourism during this pandemic until 3/31. Accordingly, you will have to travel to the DR by air and check-in a hotel, to qualify for the coverage. I called my regular hotel, Napolitano, in the capital and they will follow up and get back to me with all we need to know by tomorrow; will keep you guys posted once I hear back from them.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2523286]It is also my understanding that either of the two viral tests, PCR or Antigen, is accepted to board a flight to the United States. I also think that the cost for the Covid test is covered by the Ministry of Tourism of the Dominican Republic under the current free healthcare coverage that the Dominican Republic is offering to international travelers in the DR, to boost tourism during this pandemic until 3/31. Accordingly, you will have to travel to the DR by air and check-in a hotel, to qualify for the coverage. I called my regular hotel, Napolitano, in the capital and they will follow up and get back to me with all we need to know by tomorrow; will keep you guys posted once I hear back from them.[/QUOTE]The Dominican ministries of Tourism and Public Health are supposed to be coming up with a comprehensive road map as to how to respond to the United States' covid test requirement: [URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2021/01/18/tourism-manages-pcr-tests-for-canadian-travelers-stranded-in-the-dr/[/URL].
Trump relaxed the COVID testing for inbound US flights effective 26 Jan. Binden says he will reinstate.
Who knows anymore. I am planning on getting a COVID test if my airline requires it.
Well. . According to this, it would be great to have a positive PCR test. As long as its accompanied by a note that says you're recovered. But that probably means the note should be from a US doctor. Doubt it would fly at check in at SDQ with a note from a Dominican doctor. Have fun trying to explain that one.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sam14;2523635]Well. . According to this, it would be great to have a positive PCR test. As long as its accompanied by a note that says you're recovered. But that probably means the note should be from a US doctor. Doubt it would fly at check in at SDQ with a note from a Dominican doctor. Have fun trying to explain that one.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The Dominican Republic government will provide free covid test to international tourists:
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/01/19/tourism-and-health-promise-free-tests-for-tourists/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sam14;2523635]Well. . According to this, it would be great to have a positive PCR test. As long as its accompanied by a note that says you're recovered. But that probably means the note should be from a US doctor. Doubt it would fly at check in at SDQ with a note from a Dominican doctor. Have fun trying to explain that one.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Well, this should be in the General Info thread. But just got off the phone with United Air. According to the Filipina rep that answered (sounded kinda gwapa), she said that a positive PCR test within the past 90 days, along with a doctor's note saying you've recovered from Covid, will get you boarded on the plane. I said well, since the passenger has been in the DR, the note would be from a Dominican doctor. Is that good? Yes sir.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Cestme;2523693]The Dominican Republic government will provide free covid test to international tourists:
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/01/19/tourism-and-health-promise-free-tests-for-tourists/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks man, good to know. So if you're hanging around and plan on traveling to the US in the next 90 days, why not go get tested. You night get lucky and get a false positive at that point, rather than when you got your shit all packed and ready to fly. Go find a doctor and say you were sick but now you're feeling great. Problem solved in advance.
I understand the new red light area should be opening soon. With superbowl around the corner this is the right time to open.
Will provide current covid rrequirements.
You supply from to destinations and start date.
[URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions?affiliateId=americanairlines&anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=travelrestrictions[/URL]
P Chop.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2524023]I understand the new red light area should be opening soon. With superbowl around the corner this is the right time to open.[/QUOTE]Superbowl starts after curfew so I don't know how you would expect them to be open for Superbowl. I see the manager of the place almost every day and even he doesn't know when they are going to open. The curfew hours are really holding them back, plus another issue that I will not mention on an open forum.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2524023]I understand the new red light area should be opening soon. With superbowl around the corner this is the right time to open.[/QUOTE]My apologies OldKool,2413,the new club in the red light district has opened, you were right.
They are investing big dollars so they are motivated. Ahnvee is charging 2000 pesos to enter every day to sit on plastic chairs.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2527979]My apologies OldKool,2413,the new club in the red light district has opened, you were right.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2528214]They are investing big dollars so they are motivated. Ahnvee is charging 2000 pesos to enter every day to sit on plastic chairs.[/QUOTE]Or either they owe a bunch of money and are trying to get suckers to pay it for them. Didn't their other furniture get repossessed, hence they bought plastic chairs to replace it?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2528214]They are investing big dollars so they are motivated. Ahnvee is charging 2000 pesos to enter every day to sit on plastic chairs.[/QUOTE]Places like BB, Ahnvee and Classicos are like stocked little trout ponds and game reserves, for those who are either socially, or time challenged. Pay to enter.
But the beauty of DR, is that there's an abundance of wild life out there, free for the taking.
You'll rarely find a resident or regular in those places.
To each, his own.
I like 👍 sosua but only staying 2 days. Pick up a few new girls sport fucking going to SD to hang with my go to girls. The shine is wearing off. Colombia 🇨127476; could be on my future.
A summary of my exchanges with Clinica Bournigal, Pto Pta. As you will notice, this has become a good money making business.
PCR Express test, 1 day before your flight, results within 24 hours, US $89.00.
PCR regular price, 3 days before your flight, results within 72 hours, US $79.00.
Antigen Test US $35.00, 2 days before your flight, the result 12-24 hours.
You can make the appointment by email with us, or in this link ([URL]https://form.jotform.com/210057231136947[/URL]), Centro Medico Bournigal.
Regards,
Grupo rescue.
T: 1 (809) 5862342.
[URL]www.gruporescue.com[/URL]
Ahnvee is not charging 2000 pesos it still 500. My friend was quoted the price of a cabana. Sorry for the misinformation.
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[QUOTE=OldKool;2528482]I like 👍 sosua but only staying 2 days. Pick up a few new girls sport fucking going to SD to hang with my go to girls. The shine is wearing off. Colombia 🇨127476; could be on my future.[/QUOTE]I had a ball in Cartagena! I'm curious to know why the shine is wearing off. Respectfully.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2528615]I had a ball in Cartagena! I'm curious to know why the shine is wearing off. Respectfully.[/QUOTE]Everybody's going to Colombia. Prices will go up.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2528615]I had a ball in Cartagena! I'm curious to know why the shine is wearing off. Respectfully.[/QUOTE]The Shine is NOT wearing off and that's the problem. Everybody expected huge price drops because only hardcore mongers and sexpats were going to risk travel. The problem is with all that stimulus it either increased sex tourism or the market for sex tourism stabilized. I just changed apartments and gave up a luxurious 2 bedroom on the northside of SD for a studio near the malecon for the same price. When I saw what I gave up I wanted to move back but the place was already snapped up.
Same thing for Sosua is the crowds lighter on Pedro sure but guys are still spending their PPE money in Ahnvee every weekend. That's why he knew he could raise prices for the superbowl. Guys are coming anyway. I know some girls who are already there.
On one of the travel groups a dude announced an 80 person group tour (men and women) going to Punta Cana in June. When you have actual vacationers willing to spend half of what they would spend in Miami or Vegas that's a problem for the budget monger. Even if people come on a family getaway you'd have to assume that the Family guy might slip and fall into some pussy by accident. The Island is too small If a chick can get one monger a month who spends 100 for a quickie and two a year that sends a one time payment of 100 through WU she's not going to want to accept 1500 pesos from a jaded sexpat.
Same thing is going to happen in CTG but Colombia is big Vacationers generally won't leave the coast go inland in DR or Colombia and prices will be reasonable. But the DR needs to work on it's internal infrastructure. The Blackouts and slow internet is a problem. The DR with the fact they never closed the borders or demanded a quarantine shows that it's Thailand West. They should acknowledge this and cater to the monger market.
Trip.
New garden hotel has a pick up for covid test in Cabarete. Pick up is 10:00 or 10:30.
You don't need to be staying there to use shuttle.
P Chop.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2528677]The Shine is NOT wearing off and that's the problem. Everybody expected huge price drops because only hardcore mongers and sexpats were going to risk travel. The problem is with all that stimulus it either increased sex tourism or the market for sex tourism stabilized. I just changed apartments and gave up a luxurious 2 bedroom on the northside of SD for a studio near the malecon for the same price. When I saw what I gave up I wanted to move back but the place was already snapped up.
Same thing for Sosua is the crowds lighter on Pedro sure but guys are still spending their PPE money in Ahnvee every weekend. That's why he knew he could raise prices for the superbowl. Guys are coming anyway. I know some girls who are already there.
On one of the travel groups a dude announced an 80 person group tour (men and women) going to Punta Cana in June. When you have actual vacationers willing to spend half of what they would spend in Miami or Vegas that's a problem for the budget monger. Even if people come on a family getaway you'd have to assume that the Family guy might slip and fall into some pussy by accident. The Island is too small If a chick can get one monger a month who spends 100 for a quickie and two a year that sends a one time payment of 100 through WU she's not going to want to accept 1500 pesos from a jaded sexpat.
Same thing is going to happen in CTG but Colombia is big Vacationers generally won't leave the coast go inland in DR or Colombia and prices will be reasonable. But the DR needs to work on it's internal infrastructure. The Blackouts and slow internet is a problem. The DR with the fact they never closed the borders or demanded a quarantine shows that it's Thailand West. They should acknowledge this and cater to the monger market.
Trip.[/QUOTE]For work reason I can't go back to Colombia until they drop the testing to enter requirement. But when they do Cartagena will be my new hangout. More expensive than sosua, but I don't care. I had a ball! The ladies, the city, plenty to see, amazing food. I can't wait to go back. For 10 k pesos, about 3 $, you can go pretty much anywhere. I saw alot of sosua dudes. But the city is big enough to move around. I got to get to know it. I need a bar or 2 in every area because I like to move around. All things in time. Peace.
So after almost 20 years of reading this board I hope we can FINALLY can lay to rest of the sky is falling crap I. E. The end of Sousa. Because as you can see from the latest superbowl video (see link at the bottom. If link don't work go old school and copy and paste) that even during an pandemic, Sosua is NOT dead.
Now what these mangoes will charge you for their time is up for discussion at another junction.
[URL]https://youtu.be/gvMHD_wHEAc[/URL]
P.S. At the 12:10 mark in the video, the hunny in yellow, I can understand why folks that isn't season to the game, come down there, lose their mind and over pay market value just to see those legs in the air on your shoulder while you're crushing it. Hell don't let me find that mango on pay day LOL.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2531523]So after almost 20 years of reading this board I hope we can FINALLY can lay to rest of the sky is falling crap I. E. The end of Sousa. Because as you can see from the latest superbowl video (see link at the bottom. If link don't work go old school and copy and paste) that even during an pandemic, Sosua is NOT dead.[/QUOTE]Only problem is that the video is centered on Ahnvee Resort, not Sosua. That is like guys staying at Blackbeards or Oasis and making a blanket statement about what is going on in Puerto Plata because of what they see in either of those venues. And there really are not many people in the video like you would find before on Pedro Clisante, especially during Superbowl. So while a few chicks from around the area may have gotten dressed up and stepped inside of Ahnvee for 1 night, that can not be used to say Sosua is poppin or not dead.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2531537]Only problem is that the video is centered on Ahnvee Resort, not Sosua. That is like guys staying at Blackbeards or Oasis and making a blanket statement about what is going on in Puerto Plata because of what they see in either of those venues. And there really are not many people in the video like you would find before on Pedro Clisante, especially during Superbowl. So while a few chicks from around the area may have gotten dressed up and stepped inside of Ahnvee for 1 night, that can not be used to say Sosua is poppin or not dead.[/QUOTE]Good point. We all can agree that its NOT like what it was but it aint dead. Just got to make some adjustments in your hunting tactics that's all. Just like how we are all making adjustments in life with this pandemic.
BTW never got a chance, but your post in the Bogot board with your pops last month I believe, was legendary. Had me literally laughing my ass off with the skeet skeet comment. A great read.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2531589]Good point. We all can agree that its NOT like what it was but it aint dead. Just got to make some adjustments in your hunting tactics that's all. Just like how we are all making adjustments in life with this pandemic.
BTW never got a chance, but your post in the Bogot board with your pops last month I believe, was legendary. Had me literally laughing my ass off with the skeet skeet comment. A great read.[/QUOTE]Good point, Coolie.
As I always say, Sosua won't die until the DR birthrate is not producing beautiful chicas, or they make prostitution illegal. (Or continental drift pushes it out past out way past Australia).
For a good example of adapting your expectations to changing local conditions, see Richiesixx's excellent report on Boca Chica.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2531523]So after almost 20 years of reading this board I hope we can FINALLY can lay to rest of the sky is falling crap I. E. The end of Sousa. Because as you can see from the latest superbowl video (see link at the bottom. If link don't work go old school and copy and paste) that even during an pandemic, Sosua is NOT dead.
Now what these mangoes will charge you for their time is up for discussion at another junction.
[URL]https://youtu.be/gvMHD_wHEAc[/URL]
P.S. At the 12:10 mark in the video, the hunny in yellow, I can understand why folks that isn't season to the game, come down there, lose their mind and over pay market value just to see those legs in the air on your shoulder while you're crushing it. Hell don't let me find that mango on pay day LOL.[/QUOTE]I actually got hard watching that video. Covid sucks.
Place is just east of the supermarket in Sosua. Results in 3 hours.
Going back to get results later today.
CENTRO MÉDICO CABARETE.
Address: Carretera Sosua Cabarete Km 1.
Email: [EMAIL]CMC.Sosua@gmail.com[/EMAIL].
Phone: +1 809-571-4696.
Hours: 24 hours.
PCR test: RD $ 4,400.
Notes: No referral needed. Test available 24 hours via emergency room.
Just came back from a week long trip. The biggest issue was about the test for return, where, what and how much. I also decided to take a PCR- RT test before I left home to make sure I was okay. Once I was in the DR, I had several options and I had to figure out, which worked best for me.
In Sosua, the best option for me was the lab (Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata) right in front of Playero, the other side of the street. Antigen test 2000 (PCR-RT is 4400). I decided for the cheaper option. The catch is that, you have to go in the morning to enroll, return for the nasal sample at 11 AM and subsequently, get back one more time at 4.30 PM, for the printed report. The secretary there has a long face too which did not help. By the way, if you go, there is a machine there hanging on to the wall, on your right as you enter, with a ticket for your queue number but they do not tell you about that when you go in. It is part of your discovery process.
The other option in Sosua was CMC. That others have already mentioned. I did not bother to go there.
By the way, New Garden has the possibility to collect samples and deliver at a cost of 2500 Pesos. The day I checked them out, I was the only potential and so there was uncertainly as to whether they could invite the lab for one person. The process was quite iffy and I decided to go straight to the lab rather than using a middleman.
There were other options in Pto Pta, including the main office for Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata. They also offer a home collection option, 800 pesos if I recall.
Overall, there is nothing to sweat about in terms of the 3 day window and the airline looked at the "negative" and put it back inside the envelop.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2532082]Place is just east of the supermarket in Sosua. Results in 3 hours.
Going back to get results later today.
CENTRO MDICO CABARETE.
Address: Carretera Sosua Cabarete Km 1.
Email: [EMAIL]CMC.Sosua@gmail.com[/EMAIL].
Phone: +1 809-571-4696.
Hours: 24 hours.
PCR test: RD $ 4,400.
Notes: No referral needed. Test available 24 hours via emergency room.[/QUOTE]This is good information however you pay half that price for an antigen test. Do US is requiring a Covid test. They're not requiring that you take the PCR test. You can get an antigen result in less than three hours. The price was 2000 pesos.
When: Was in for 2 weeks in the area around super bowl week and next. Stayed near Puerto Plata area but was going back and forth all across the area.
Pandemic update: Everything seems to be pretty much upto speed. Places that I went are reasonably back to normal and it seemed that folks knew exactly how to manage around quarantine times. Weekdays 7 pm. In by 10 pm; Weekends 5 pm -in by 8 pm.
Chicas: This time I pretty much sourced from Tinder and some from FB. The interesting thing is that all the FB "friends' that I had made were in Tinder as well. All of them were fairly straight in terms of contact- video call, followed by whatsapp "quanto es?" conversation. Most of the numbers were from 3 to 5 k DOP for 2-3 hours. No chicas had any challenges with being around for the entire duration and were very pretty accommodating with various services. I pretty much went to every cabana near Puerto Plata. Best cabana (and also somewhat expensive at 1100 DOP for 3 hours) was Venus Cabana. La Rokka and Isla Cabana were ok. I also went to a cabana near cabarette that was decent (forgot the name). In general, I find the cabanas as an easy way to operate.
Overall: Pretty decent trip. Weather was great and I had quite a bit of supply to chicas to work with.
Antigen Test: Did that in centro medico Bournigal in the city of Puerto Plata. Went there AM -paid 2000 pesos. They sent the result by email as well as whatsapp messaged me the same day. Fairly straightforward with wait time no more than 15-20 minutes if you go at 8 am (as they open).
Kris.
All right gentleman I just finished a 10 day trip on Wednesday and previous went a week before this for week so I'll combine that trip report into this one. I'll just do some quick things I noticed one where can you find chicas with the curfew answer everywhere I went to bailey's a couple times for drinks and took note that chicas are in here looking for business all day everyday and pretty good quality also. I went to Anhvee about fives time its best Thursday-Saturday packed with ladies about 10 worth taking. One thing I must say I didn't take any chicas but I spoke to a couple ladies to get a fill of prices and must say they started at 4000 peso st which I thought was crazy for Sosua. This was my first time back in Sosua in five years so the prices of chicas was a bit surprising because in 2016 you would get lower quotes. This was a good trip even without taking a chica as I'm scouting for a location to wait until Asia opens so this wasn't a pure mongering trip. Got my covid test done at Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata. Sosúa 2000 pesos easy process. Just mailed in my passport to get it renewed so won't be going anywhere for hopefully just a month or two.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2535986]When: Was in for 2 weeks in the area around super bowl week and next. Stayed near Puerto Plata area but was going back and forth all across the area.
Kris.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2536014]All right gentleman I just finished a 10 day trip on Wednesday[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reports, guys. I got to say, though, in terms of the prices -- ouch! Are they trying to make up for the business lost to the quarantine? 4-5 K for ST in Sosua sounds crazy.
Any thoughts on using Uber. Was thinking of using to go from Sosua to Blackbeard. Also, using Uber for day trips out of Blackbeard's. The rumor I heard was, Uber will drop you off in Costombar but, because of Taxi Mafia, they refuse to pick you up.
[QUOTE=JimJames;2539383]Any thoughts on using Uber. Was thinking of using to go from Sosua to Blackbeard. Also, using Uber for day trips out of Blackbeard's. The rumor I heard was, Uber will drop you off in Costombar but, because of Taxi Mafia, they refuse to pick you up.[/QUOTE]Uber picked me up at Blackbeard's and took me to Sosua back in November 2020. The problem is that their aren't enough uber drivers in the Puerta Plata area. So many times during the day you will not be able to hail one.
[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2539681]Uber picked me up at Blackbeard's and took me to Sosua back in November 2020. The problem is that their aren't enough uber drivers in the Puerta Plata area. So many times during the day you will not be able to hail one.[/QUOTE]Was there in January, and had no problems at all using Uber. Only used it 3 times, but definitely no issues.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2540017]Was there in January, and had no problems at all using Uber. Only used it 3 times, but definitely no issues.[/QUOTE]What were the type of trips you took? From where to where?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2528631]Everybody's going to Colombia. Prices will go up.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/rWh0v5U0LY4[/URL]
Gents,
I am visiting Sosua / Puerto Plata in a month for a bachelor party and staying in a villa. Any intel on how the talent is nowadays with covid and what the rates are? Looking for any and all advice. Thanks.
Anyone watching the new live stream on Sosua Beach? [URL]https://youtu.be/fL2af7YYXjo[/URL].
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2541483]Anyone watching the new live stream on Sosua Beach? [URL]https://youtu.be/fL2af7YYXjo[/URL].[/QUOTE]I didn't know that this existed, nice!
Damn I miss that place.
Why guys use these villas is interesting. First you are in Sosua to hang out in the restaurants beaches and clubs. Your villa is going to require cars to get to venues. When you meet a girl you have coordinate transportation. It is a pain and expensive. Having to coordinate with all the guys in your vila is also a pain. There is always atleast one clown in every group and you have to deal with them. One of Sosua best features is being able to walk every where you want in 10 minutes.
[QUOTE=KobeMyMan;2540958]Gents,
I am visiting Sosua / Puerto Plata in a month for a bachelor party and staying in a villa. Any intel on how the talent is nowadays with covid and what the rates are? Looking for any and all advice. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2541912]Why guys use these villas is interesting. First you are in Sosua to hang out in the restaurants beaches and clubs. Your villa is going to require cars to get to venues. When you meet a girl you have coordinate transportation. It is a pain and expensive. Having to coordinate with all the guys in your vila is also a pain. There is always atleast one clown in every group and you have to deal with them. One of Sosua best features is being able to walk every where you want in 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's just me, but I tend to splurge on my short vacations, so a villa with a private pool to play with a chica doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Also never rented a car in Sosua, cabs are cheap and plentiful, or motoconchos are dirt cheap for more adventurous.
However, coordinating with others is going to be messy NO MATTER WHAT. Been there, done that, never been happy and never again. At some point you start hating all your buddies, then doing things your way, and then they start hating you for it. It's only a good idea in theory, and for a large bachelor party I would PAY NOT to be there. The ideal company is you and the wingman, period.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2542037]Maybe it's just me, but I tend to splurge on my short vacations, so a villa with a private pool to play with a chica doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Also never rented a car in Sosua, cabs are cheap and plentiful, or motoconchos are dirt cheap for more adventurous.
However, coordinating with others is going to be messy NO MATTER WHAT. Been there, done that, never been happy and never again. At some point you start hating all your buddies, then doing things your way, and then they start hating you for it. It's only a good idea in theory, and for a large bachelor party I would PAY NOT to be there. The ideal company is you and the wingman, period.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, fellas. We rented a mini villa and it's just 4 guys all with the plan in mind LOL. One of my buddies actually runs a travel agency down there and is hooking us up with a driver and car. With that said, any intel on what the rates are nowadays for girls and any recs on clubs to visit?
[QUOTE=KobeMyMan;2542106]One of my buddies actually runs a travel agency down there and is hooking us up with a driver and car. With that said, any intel on what the rates are nowadays for girls and any recs on clubs to visit?[/QUOTE]Welcome to ISG, KMM.
Respectfully, the best intel for your upcoming trip to Sosua can be found by going back about 20 or 30 pages in this forum and reading, reading, reading. Pay particular attention to how the COVID situation has affected the availability of girls and the status of the clubs. Then, after all of that reading, if you have a more specific question, most definitely ask, and we will try our best to help you.
Also, make sure your buddy who runs the travel agency hooks you and your group up with a reputable and trusted driver and safe vehicle. Some groups of guys in the past have traveled to the Dominican Republic, trusted the wrong people, and ended up getting into trouble with law enforcement. I can't find the link, but I remember reading a story on Sosuanews a few years ago about a group of guys who rented a villa and trusted a local to procure some girls. The local ended up getting less-than-legal-age girls and police raided the villa while the party was in progress. Arrests were made.
Most of all, write a report here in the forum when you return from Sosua. Have fun, and happy mongering!
[QUOTE=KobeMyMan;2542106]Thanks for the advice, fellas. We rented a mini villa and it's just 4 guys all with the plan in mind LOL. One of my buddies actually runs a travel agency down there and is hooking us up with a driver and car. With that said, any intel on what the rates are nowadays for girls and any recs on clubs to visit?[/QUOTE]Not sure what's your plan? Car and driver in waiting in Sosua?
Sosua is a small walkable town. I rent a car always because I like to hook up with a girl for a couple of days and make her my temporary GF.
I like to drive out of the places to go to nice locations, go to nice restaurants, out of the way beach and get immersed in local culture.
If all you want to do is pick up girls and have fun in the villa you do not need a driver and car. If you want to travel for the day you can hire a van for that day.
Maybe your friend in the travel agency can hook you up with some girls but it always comes with a premium. If you read the forum locations where the girls are is explained. As for rates it is all over the place. In my book negotiations are very important. Most girls once negotiated stick to the rates. There are few bad apples who try to cause problems. Nothing cannot be solved with few extra pesos. Negotiate type of service, how long etc.
There are expensive high end bars in PP you can try if they are open and also Discoes where pretty girls go if they are open.
Want to know when's the best time to travel.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2541912]Why guys use these villas is interesting.[/QUOTE]Where have you been in the last 30 years. That's a Baller dream. To be overseas, in your own private villa, with your partners, Food and drinks, Surrounded by young sexy Spanish pussy down with the program. I salute those guys because they often pay Baller prices for the accommodations. There's usually one or two people that actually knows what's happening. So if it's your first time, don't feel comfortable enough, or you don't want the responsibility of being in total charge; you could just go with the flow and have a good time.
Many of us more frequent travelers are more particular about our movements and don't want the group hindrance. If you were in charge you never really get to enjoy your vacation to the fullest spending vacation time helping everyone else get and stay straight. I've graduated from doing big groups. I even separated my sons and took them a month apart.
Quite often groups of my homies come to the Su and we end up being there at the same time. It's all good I'll treat it like a family reunion. It's all love. We are here for the same event but I'm not staying in the motel room with them, I wont fly in with them, I got my own car, and I tell them I don't know when I'm going back to the states so dont ask.
[QUOTE=CuriousJorge;2543489]Want to know when's the best time to travel.[/QUOTE]Yesterday.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2543589]Yesterday.[/QUOTE]Today is the best time to travel. Tomorrow is not promised!
[QUOTE=CuriousJorge;2543489]Want to know when's the best time to travel.[/QUOTE]Welcome to ISG, CJ.
Please note that there's nearly 2200 pages of information in the Sosua forum. The information you seek can be found by reading those pages (no, not all of them). Then, if you have a more specific question, please post it in the forum, and we will try our best to help you.
Most of all, be sure to write a trip report if / when you travel to Sosua and return. ISG members who ask many questions and beg for contact information, but who then don't write trip reports, are frequently ignored by members of this website.
Good luck and Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=CuriousJorge;2543489]Want to know when's the best time to travel.[/QUOTE]During waking hours. Unless long flights during sleeping hours.
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I've finally taken my maiden mongering voyage last month. After doing my research I realized for the easiest experience as a newcomer to the hobby is to do the DR specifically Blackbeards and Sosua. Everyone was right, you basically have to be in a coma not to get laid out there. I did 3 days starting 2/6/21. I'm already looking to schedule some more trips to other mongering spots. Would appreciate any help on deciding where to go from the vets who know the game better than me. With that said, here is my trip report.
Day 1 - Fly into Puerto Plata, nothing special (though the clapping threw me off) and got a taxi to Blackbeards. Seemed pretty obvious he was upcharging me as soon as he figured out I was going to Blackbeards. Whatever, still cheap and head to Blackbeards. By time I arrive there are a decent amount of girls. Drop off my bags, go downstairs to order some food (food is pretty good for the price in my opinion) and was immediately approached by 2 girls for a threesome. Wasn't interested, they weren't my type. The girls in general looked a little worn. All were skinny dark girls. Someone said the be squad is out during the day. Finish my food and pick one of the girls, like the others, skinny dark girl. I wish I would of got her name because she was the worst one. She seemed inexperienced and rode me very awkwardly. Paid her and took a nap. Woke up and at this point some better girls were out. Definitely some 7-8's but if you go expecting to find some model quality girls you're going to be disappointed. Grabbed dinner, and looked around until a skinny little light skin girl caught my eye. Took her up and had a great time. She had glasses and was extremely skinny but she was a pro. Ended up repeating her even though I really don't like repeating girls no matter how good just because I was lazy and didn't want to go back downstairs and just laid around getting drunk while she sucked my dick for a couple hours.
Day 2 - I went to Sosua just to check things out. I got a room at Ahnvee (should of listened, don't get the pool room) and then walked around for a bit. Grabbed a bite to eat and checked out the beach and other random tourist stuff. Ended up getting approached on the beach by a super thick dark girl who was definitely the sexiest working girl I had seen at that point. I even ended up paying her a bit more than I anticipated because she was so sexy and honestly a few bucks wasn't going to stop me. Paid 5000 DOP. She tried to talk to me in USD and I switched it to DOP. Took her back to Ahnvee and she was good, worth it since it was still only $80 USD and she let me bust in her mouth and was overall excitable. I don't really party anymore so I wanted to head out of Ahnvee before it got too late and curfew kicked in so I went back to my room at Blackbeards. I was pretty tired but I picked up a girl on my way up to my room. She was dominican, big natural tits that were perky, full and held their shape. She was hands down the best part of my trip. She fucked like a pro, sucked like a pro and had the best body. The only 9-10 quality girl I saw the entire time. She was so good, she was the only girl I even remember what her name was. I believe she said Nairobi (completely guessing the spelling) so ask the front desk about her and try her out, she was hands down the best working girl I have had ever. Paid her and went to bed.
Day 3 - Woke up, had breakfast. No girls around so I just sat around for a few hours and relaxed. Girls didn't show up until about 11 at which point this thick light skin girl walked up to me while I was having a drink at the bar. She was cute, seemed new and we went up did the deed. She was good no complaints. Got her out of there and had a couple drinks before I took off for the airport.
Overall it was a good trip. I will go again, but I want to see some other countries first and see what they have to offer. I like Blackbeards more than Sosua honestly. Sosua had more but the girls were a lot trashier and I didn't even go at night. If I go back, I'll probably stay at a resort in Puerto Plata and get a little smash pad airbnb as well and just bring girls out to me. I don't sleep with working girls so it doesn't bother me not bringing the girls to the resort.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2543584]Where have you been in the last 30 years. That's a Baller dream. To be overseas, in your own private villa, with your partners, Food and drinks, Surrounded by young sexy Spanish pussy down with the program. I salute those guys because they often pay Baller prices for the accommodations. There's usually one or two people that actually knows what's happening. So if it's your first time, don't feel comfortable enough, or you don't want the responsibility of being in total charge; you could just go with the flow and have a good time.
Many of us more frequent travelers are more particular about our movements and don't want the group hindrance. If you were in charge you never really get to enjoy your vacation to the fullest spending vacation time helping everyone else get and stay straight. I've graduated from doing big groups. I even separated my sons and took them a month apart.
Quite often groups of my homies come to the Su and we end up being there at the same time. It's all good I'll treat it like a family reunion. It's all love. We are here for the same event but I'm not staying in the motel room with them, I wont fly in with them, I got my own car, and I tell them I don't know when I'm going back to the states so dont ask.[/QUOTE]For some of us in the party it's the 3rd or 4th time in Puerto Plata / Sosua area, first time for me though. We typically stay in these villa type places when we travel to bachelor parties (Colombia and Costa Rica already checked off the list). Honestly it comes out to $200 per person for the weekend stay and we just compare it to staying in an American hotel in terms of price but much more luxurious. The best luxury is hanging in a private pool with young beauties surrounding you! I will report back on the experience.
[QUOTE=KobeMyMan;2540958]Gents,
I am visiting Sosua / Puerto Plata in a month for a bachelor party and staying in a villa. Any intel on how the talent is nowadays with covid and what the rates are? Looking for any and all advice. Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL]
[QUOTE=JimJames;2543885][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyone else view the posted video and has questions over the veracity of the location given? Like the owner arriving and speaking nothing but English the entire video.
[QUOTE=Vike604;2543831] Paid 5000 DOP. She tried to talk to me in USD and I switched it to DOP... it was still only $80 USD [/QUOTE]Now I understand why this Place is what it is. Shitty cold, professional Service and girls quoting crazy amounts of money. No Wonder they are asking 150 $ LT. Because its "only" 150 $ hahahah.
Really crazy amounts for a country like DR.
[QUOTE=JimJames;2543885][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL][/QUOTE]That has to suck. Get kicked out, can't get no pussy, and still have to pay those chicks. I would have kicked their asses out too for not knowing how to keep a clean living space.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2543937]Now I understand why this Place is what it is. Shitty cold, professional Service and girls quoting crazy amounts of money. No Wonder they are asking 150 $ LT. Because its "only" 150 $ hahahah.
Really crazy amounts for a country like DR.[/QUOTE]I paid $2500 for everyone else. I don't have a problem paying a little bit extra if it not only doesn't break 100 and the girl is attractive enough. What's the point of getting worked up over $20-$40 dollars when you're there to have a good time and relax.
[QUOTE=JimJames;2543885][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL][/QUOTE]Check out the bong sitting on the kitchen counter at the 43 second mark of the video. Not sure if it's hookah or weed. If the owner showed up and smelled weed, that might explain why he was pissed and everyone left with their tails tucked between their legs.
[QUOTE=Vike604;2543954]I paid $2500 for everyone else. I don't have a problem paying a little bit extra if it not only doesn't break 100 and the girl is attractive enough. What's the point of getting worked up over $20-$40 dollars when you're there to have a good time and relax.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report!
Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.
When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.
Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2542037]Maybe it's just me, but I tend to splurge on my short vacations, so a villa with a private pool to play with a chica doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Also never rented a car in Sosua, cabs are cheap and plentiful, or motoconchos are dirt cheap for more adventurous.[/QUOTE]First you wrote the above statement. Then you wrote the one below:
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544029]Thank you for your report!
Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.
When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.
Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report![/QUOTE]Since we are not taking things the wrong way, let us start with the DOP / USD exchange rate a few years ago compared to now 2021. I'll stipulate to whatever numbers you want to use. But DOP has lost value against the USD. Then add in the factor that the bottom fell out of the overall tourist market (of all types) in 2020. Check out that entire COVID-19 thing. You might have heard about it.
Those are basic market facts for those who live on the island. If the product is not produced domestically then it has to be flown or shipped in. All the products or inputs to those products are paid for with USD. If the DOP slips against the USD all prices go up. That means that all the expenses of the girls selling pussy goes up. Expenses of a business goes up, customers pay increased prices. Even "dumb girls" understand that basic economic lesson.
One person does not make a market. If you look at things logically, the girls have control of the market. Individuals are just showing up with a dick, exchanging pesos in one hand a grabbing drink in the other. The market is made by the entire group of participants. So any one individual who does not want to pay market prices does not have to. They can simply choose to not participate in the market or do their own private deals. Anyone who travels here multiple times a year over even just a few years can set up their own private market at whatever prices they choose to pay.
In fact there is a individual who lives in Sosua that posts regularly that has not paid for pussy for six years according to a self report that can be found in the Politics of the Dominican Republic section. Standing ovation and thunderous applause to that guy! LOL!
I have taken on the "one person over paying" theory more than once and showed the holes in that particular line of thinking multiple times.
Please tell me when girls were charging 800 DOP for a ST just a few years ago? Because I have not been there for almost 5 or 6 years. And when I was there 1500 was the price I paid for ST and TLN. And my trip report is there to prove it. You see I have no problem paying for pussy. Or talking about it on ISG. Since we are here to share information on having sex with girls.
On one hand you argue that is ok to pay what a individual wants to pay, then on the other hand you argue that same individual is harming every one else by paying a amount you choose not to pay. Last time I checked, an asking price was just that. Someone who negotiates pays what they negotiate not what the other party asks. Then you report that you give a tip (even though you do not give tips) by taking a girl out, buying her kid something or bringing a gift from their country of origin. This increase the price that you originally negotiated unless those gifts and treats are free.
I know a lot of people who travel to Sosua. Of course I do not get into their business (how much they pay). And even if I did, if they like it, then I love it. No one complains to me about the time they have there. I only read about complaints here on ISG. Now, complaints are ok. But it seems a lot more bad stuff is reported on about Sosua in ISG than good stuff. It does not align with the information I am directly from people that I trust about the place.
Do not take it personally. I appreciate your sharing of information. I hope you appreciate my insights on the points that you made about over payment for pussy in Sosua. Last time I checked prostitution was legal in the entire country of the Dominican Republic. That leaves anyone unhappy with Sosua an entire island to explore if paying for pussy is an activity you seek during the time you allow yourself time off from your purpose. Anyone who finds the market in Sosua unsatisfactory has options, even entire other countries.
But after all, what do I know. I just live here. But I appreciate the views and opinions of all who don't. LOL!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544029]Thank you for your report!
Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.
When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.
Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report![/QUOTE]Perhaps somebody could explain how taking out a girl and buying her or her family something nice or bringing gifts from the States, or splurging on a 3 day vacation, somehow equates with a "no tipping" policy.
The monger union here seem to have no difficulty giving the chicas, fake hair, perfume, dresses, chauffeuring them to dinners in good restaurants, private villa accommodation, but then claim that giving a chica a propina for great mind blowing service is somehow "spoiling the market".
Sounds more like rules for thee but not for me.
LOL.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544029]Thank you for your report!
Please don't take it the wrong way (it's your money and who has the right to tell you what to do with it, right?) But please understand that many folks here go to their favorite destinations several times a year. So when you arrive for a short visit and pay gringo prices, next time they'll ask for more. Even worse, they'll brag about the overpaying gringo to their girlfriends (perhaps exaggerating a bit too), and now their girlfriends start asking more. It's a vicious cycle. It may not bother you on your 3-day visit, but other mongers who frequent the place. It will throw them off their budget. Just a few years ago, Sosua working girls were charging 800 pesos, then 1,000 pesos, then it was 1,500, then 2,000 and 2,500 and the more they can get away with, the colder and more hardened the service becomes. Asking 5,000 for ST (that's closer to $90 than $80, by the way), man, that chick has some balls on her.
When I appreciate the service, I may take the girl out and buy her or her kid something nice. I may give her a little gift I bring from the States. But I always negotiate, and I do not tip. Just understand, they ain't going to respect you more for overpaying. If anything, they'll think less of you, not more.
Again, don't take it personally and I do appreciate your report![/QUOTE]I think if the pricing has been going the way you say it has the economy for women was fucked long before I arrived, but I apologies on that one. Hopefully I can get accurate pricing info before I leave for my next destination.
[QUOTE=JimJames;2543885][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL][/QUOTE]20 guys in a 2 bedroom apartment is a good way of not overpaying. Same goes for renting hoes. Don't overpay.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2544081]In fact there is a individual who lives in Sosua that posts regularly that has not paid for pussy for six years according to a self report that can be found in the Politics of the Dominican Republic section. Standing ovation and thunderous applause to that guy! LOL![/QUOTE]Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either. When you live here, you operate differently.
But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots.
But let's keep it straight, eh?
My understanding is the best gifts are actually real human hair. The girls have it weaved into the hair they actually grow on their heads to add length and body. Now there is actual fake hair which is synthetic. But the girls that purchase in the market that I know, they know the difference.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2544230]Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either.
But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots.[/QUOTE]No need to brag on your dick my man. You referred to your sexual partners as "service providers" in another post. So excuse me for the confusion.
The only posts I read about people coming to the Dominican Republic and not being happy seem to wind up here in the Sosua section. The complaints are universally about the quality or prices of the pussy they seek. Seems strange to me in a country where prostitution is legal and sexual exchange between men and girls is baked into the culture.
Everyone that I know seems to get all the pussy they want in the Dominican Republic. Those are reports I get from people with "boots on the ground". I do not make a distinction between "prostitutes" and "all other girls". If individuals negotiate prices up front, gives afterwards, or wines and dines before there most certainly an exchange of some kind going on there.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2544230]When you live here, you operate differently.[/QUOTE]And that my man is something we can agree on. Been doing it differently for years and writing about it all over this forum. Even in Sosua during my one trip I had a great time. In Sosua I don't need to make myself feel better by saying something like "I haven't picked up a hooker". I don't live in Sosua so I have not problem with "prostitutes". One that I met she was new and I actually met her on the street, got her number and she came by the next afternoon. She was a lot of fun and a sweetheart. I had one other that we made a deal in a bar. The rest there was no money discussed. I just gave afterwards and the girls were appreciative. But who am I to tell any man how to spend his time off purpose or his money? I don't. If you like it I love it!
Is that keeping it straight enough for ya?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2544081]First you wrote the above statement. Then you wrote the one below:[/QUOTE]I'm confused.
1. What does my splurging on a villa or condo have to do with the price of a pussy? How does it affect anyone or anything except my wallet?
2. "One person does not make a market. " Fine. How many do? I just shared my thoughts as respectfully as I could. You don't believe that overpaying for pussy leads to higher prices. I do, I've seen it.
3. I personally paid 800 pesos for ST in 2008 or 2009. I admit, I was a little liberal with "a few years ago" bit. However, a 1,000 DOP was indeed a few years ago. I paid that. Me.
4. Are you seriously telling me that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal? Well, I haven't been to the DR in a couple of years, but since you live there you tell me. If not, then what are we arguing about?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2544081]Do not take it personally. [/QUOTE]I don't. It's just that my comment surely didn't warrant a white paper on political economy, LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie]
Perhaps somebody could explain how taking out a girl and buying her or her family something nice or bringing gifts from the States, or splurging on a 3 day vacation, somehow equates with a "no tipping" policy.
The monger union here seem to have no difficulty giving the chicas, fake hair, perfume, dresses, chauffeuring them to dinners in good restaurants, private villa accommodation, but then claim that giving a chica a propina for great mind blowing service is somehow "spoiling the market".
Sounds more like rules for thee but not for me.[/QUOTE]1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.
2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.
3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]1. When I encounter a great performer, I try to build relationships. It doesn't always work, but in my humble experience gifts work better than cash for that purpose.
2. Oakie, I can assure you I'm not unionized, LOL. Plus I don't "chauffeur" them, and I book villas for myself, not them. Let's drop the hyperbole.
3. I don't make rules, only suggestions.
Peace.[/QUOTE]Peace, amigo.
But a couple things.
Service providers offer everything from a GFE fantasy, to a cheap quickie. Does a steakhouse spoil the market for McDonalds? Or vice versa?
If a monger comes to Sosua for cheap and plentiful pussy, maybe he should be figuring in the cost of his travel and accommodation into the mix?
As for tipping, Sosua runs on propinas and they are expected from tourists. It's a fact of life.
I tip the housekeeper, get extra towels and stuff, and the chico who hauls the 5 gallon agua up to my room from across the street. He seems to always know when I'm about to run out.
The bar / restaurant owners here pay servers as little as 200 pesos a shift. They have to make it up by being nice to you.
And it's not wise to disappoint a server who brings you your food, prepared in a back room. LOL.
[QUOTE=JimJames;2543885][URL]https://youtu.be/n2hUW36jgw0[/URL][/QUOTE]That video is hilarious. A bunch of broke dudes all crammed in one spot trying to save a buck. Their stimulus check could only cover the plane ticket, lmao! This is the quintessential "Weekend Baller"!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]I'm confused.[/QUOTE]That is ok. Many are.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]1. What does my splurging on a villa or condo have to do with the price of a pussy? How does it affect anyone or anything except my wallet?[/QUOTE]The answer to both of of your questions is what you do with your money does not affect what anyone else does or the prices in any other market.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]2. "One person does not make a market. " Fine. How many do? I just shared my thoughts as respectfully as I could. You don't believe that overpaying for pussy leads to higher prices. I do, I've seen it.[/QUOTE]It takes more than one person to make a market. Unless you are trading stocks and have been given "market maker" status. Do you have market maker status in the Sosua pussy market of the Dominican Republic? You have seen prices go up. You cannot say that has to do with others over paying for pussy. See my answer to your first question. And feel free to address the overall inflation of goods and services in the Dominican Republic from 2008 until 2021. You know over the last few years: 13.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]3. I personally paid 800 pesos for ST in 2008 or 2009. I admit, I was a little liberal with "a few years ago" bit. However, a 1,000 DOP was indeed a few years ago. I paid that. Me.[/QUOTE]One person does not make a market. We have agreement on that. My numbers were from a trip to Sosua around 2015/2016. I am not accusing you of lying on your dick. But your clarification of the time frames helps. You have proven my point. According to you I paid 1500 DOP for a ST in 2015/2016. And then you still paid 1000 DOP in 2019. My over payment for pussy did not affect your market one bit now did it?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]4. Are you seriously telling me that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal? Well, I haven't been to the DR in a couple of years, but since you live there you tell me. If not, then what are we arguing about?[/QUOTE]I do not know what the market in Sosua for prostitutes is at the moment. I have only made one trip there. I live in the Dominican Republic, yes. But I live on the South Coast. East Side. And the last time I paid for a prostitute in early 2020 it was 1200 DOP for a short time. And even now I can pay 1500 DOP for a short time. So no, I am not telling you that 5,000 DOP for ST is the new normal on the South Coast on East Side!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544463]I don't. It's just that my comment surely didn't warrant a white paper on political economy, LOL.[/QUOTE]I am not trying to nullify anything that you said Brother. We are both putting the facts related to our experiences out there. White Paper or no, you are still able to fuck who you like, where you like, how you like and pay what you like! As can I. And what I pay will not affect what you pay and what you pay will not affect what I pay.
I do not have the exact number of the number of prostitutes in Sosua or the number of Sexual Tourists making deals with them. There is not centralized market. So we are left with the reports that Brothers file up in here. And I thank all that file trip reports! And if I see something I have a question about it then I am going to ask. And for your information, I write dark papers. Always have. Always will.
Glad you enjoyed my work. Your serve!
What are popular small gifts for the lady's? I brought a few small vibrators and sets of panties to Colombia and that was popular but even basic vibrators aren't cheap. Ideas?
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2544611]That video is hilarious. A bunch of broke dudes all crammed in one spot trying to save a buck. Their stimulus check could only cover the plane ticket, lmao! This is the quintessential "Weekend Baller"![/QUOTE]LOL!
But the USA Weekend warriors are a staple of the local economy here. They are still showing up, albeit in lesser numbers right now.
The locals here only complain there's not enough of them these days to keep the hotels and bars filled up.
Most complaints about them come from other mongers who blame them for spoiling the market. Likewise they complain about high "asking prices".
But who pays hookers, market vendors or used car salesmen their initial asking prices anyway?
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2544772]What are popular small gifts for the lady's? Ideas?[/QUOTE]Pesos are the ideal gift.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2545043]Pesos are the ideal gift.[/QUOTE]They just don't get it. Say I did not bring any pesos, but I brought these vibrators and panties and see how far that gets you. No need to bring gifts to a horehouse.
Have any of the experts thought that the poster may not intend to give gifts to prostitutes? Nah, that would require out of the box thinking. If you want to give a prostitute something, give her a tip.
If you want to give an girl you do not consider a prostitute a gift give her something small, inexpensive and useful she cannot get her hands on easily here in the Dominican Republic. But what do I know. I am not a expert on prostitutes like our frequent visitors or those who live in puta pueblos but do not frequent prostitutes but can tell you all about them. I live here. LOL!
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2544772]What are popular small gifts for the lady's? I brought a few small vibrators and sets of panties to Colombia and that was popular but even basic vibrators aren't cheap. Ideas?[/QUOTE]
Oakie and SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.
1. Look I'm not a total dick. LOL. I do tip waiters, maids / housekeepers, drivers (unless we agreed on a firm price beforehand), and other service stuff. I believe in subsidizing low-wage employees who go out of their way to serve me. WG's are a different matter, but I'm not going into that again.
2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.
Monger on!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2545180]Oakie and SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.
1. Look I'm not a total dick. LOL. I do tip waiters, maids / housekeepers, drivers (unless we agreed on a firm price beforehand), and other service stuff. I believe in subsidizing low-wage employees who go out of their way to serve me. WG's are a different matter, but I'm not going into that again.
2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.
Monger on![/QUOTE]Relax XPartan, nothing personal against you.
Tipping and gifting policy has been hotly debated here for years, and some posts are just thinly veiled knocks at other posters who have an opposite view on the issue.
As an example, one of our prolific posters here who constantly decries "critics" is probably one of the most critical posters we have, LOL.
But Trip Reports, not opinions, are King here, and I thank you once again for yours!
Also thanks for clearing up your stated "no tipping policy".
Peace!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2545211]As an example, one of our prolific posters here who constantly decries "critics" is probably one of the most critical posters we have, LOL. But Trip Reports, not opinions, are King here, and I thank you once again for yours![/QUOTE]Most interesting that we have individuals that say this:
[QUOTE=Oakie;2544230]Just for the record, I posted as how "I haven't picked up a hooker here in 6 years". Likewise I haven't actually "negotiated" a price for pussy, either. When you live here, you operate differently. But everybody knows we all pay for pussy, one way or the other, and I'm getting lots. But let's keep it straight, eh?[/QUOTE]Have anything at all to say about the prostitution market that would not be strictly an opinion. Did I get it straight this time? This is an excellent example of why men in the arena do not pay any attention to critics. Years of posting here you will not find a single negative word from me about a trip report that anyone has posted. Unfortunately, I cannot file a trip report. Unless I fire up one of my vehicles and get on the road. And when I do that I have filed trip reports to various places that I have visited on the island. I live here (different part of the island). But I file life reports all the time about my observations and experiences here in the Dominican Republic. The interpersonal dynamics you see in the various posts. Well they are never going to change. But my opinions of things, well they do change. Some feel like disagreement when it comes to opinions should not happen. I am open to all views. But you do not have to be critical of another person to disagree with them.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2545180]SubCmdr: Brothers. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say. Your views are fine and solid, so while I'll probably stick to my MO, it was interesting to see other POVs from 2 vets who actually live in the country. Just 2 clarifications to make sure other fellas don't get it wrong.
2. I certainly didn't pay 1,000 DOP in 2019. I think it was 2014-2016 or something. From 2018 onward it was 1,500-2,500, IIRC.
Monger on![/QUOTE]It's all good Brother. Honestly, I do not learn much when I log in here. It is mostly for entertainment. My apologies if my aggressive writing style gave offence. It was not my intention. The prices you gave in your update were appreciated. Factual information from "boots on the ground" experiences are useful. Opinions, well everyone has those.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2545373]Most interesting that we have individuals that say this:
Have anything at all to say about the prostitution market that would not be strictly an opinion. Did I get it straight this time?.[/QUOTE]Yep you clarified your misquote of my post.
Remember, The Man in the Arena once said, "If I post up something that is not accurate then I should be corrected (but that never happens). Why? I keep my game tight and my information accurate".
As for info on the SP situation here, check back on my posts.
Have you ever heard of bartering? It's something similar to shacking up with a GF or a wife. You provide certain incentives, and if you're lucky, they return in kind! No need to start a meter running, and tick off a menu before you bed down with a chica.
We have a close group of chicas in our social circle. Almost all have some kind of job, bartending, serving, selling clothes, nail salon, or otherwise making ends meet. They almost all moonlight by selling sex to ex pats regulars and generous tourists, so they don't look to me for any regular income. My contribution is picking up tabs for birthday parties, bars / restaurants, and the odd visit to the supermarket.
I'm on a limited, but manageable income, so I monitor my expenses on a daily basis, and once I hit my budget I cool off for a while.
In return I'm surrounded by beautiful chicas, who I can party with almost at will. If I do indulge, I hand over a propina, that doesn't demean her worth. But still "Dominican pricing" LOL.
For my first 7 years of visiting here I fucked scores of hookers, and enjoyed every minute it. But as I said, once you get organized here, there's no need to go to clubs, casas or massage parlors, negotiate with street hoes. Or pay for manicures, pedicures, laundry and good old home cooking!
I would imagine you have figured it all out by now, since you claim, speaking of quotes, "I have yet to meet a girl smarter than I am or quite honestly a man either."
Good for you, Einstein! LOL.
But, we all decide to pay for pussy in our own way.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2544538]I never believe that shit. I always assume that everyone on this site are just banging WG.[/QUOTE]Excellent life report below Oakie!
I, and although I cannot speak for them, other readers appreciate the insights into your pussy operations. I live on the South Coast, East Side. So when I traveled to Sosua, I fucked when I wanted. I did not worry about the background of the girl involved. One was from the street, one from a bar and the other a waitress in a restaurant that I met after her shift. They all received DOP from me. Cash. Efectivo. You know, the suggestion that all the experts suggest. I choose not to reinvent the wheel.
My income is limited also. But I stacked, wrapped and invested my flow well during a brief period of working. That is what allows me to own a vehicle. So I am good money wise. I spend my money how I like. But I choose not to spend the majority of it on girls (of any type of designation or description). Like you, I do not have to. The money I do spend (at home) is much less than the money I have to spend when I travel. And both are not even close to what travelers report they are paying.
Sousa, Puerto Plata, Cabarete, Nagua, Boca Chica, San Pedro, San Cristobal, Bani, La Vega, Bonao, Moca, Santiago, Higuey, Hato Mayor, Boca de Yuma are just some of the places off the top of my head I have visited since living on the island. Barahona and Punta Cana have always been two of my favorite beach spots on the island. You see, I have put a few kilometers on the Gran Jefe Mobile since I got it!
[B]Barter:[/B] exchange (goods or services) for other goods or services without using money.
[I]"My contribution is picking up tabs for birthday parties, bars / restaurants, and the odd visit to the supermarket"[/I] - Oakie.
My guess is that you pay cash for all the things in the above list. Me too! I stick with cash. Not really down on the barter game. I'm a business man. And I keep my transactions at arm length using money. I have a group a regulars. Details of my operations can be found all over the forum and in my user blog. So, I will not repeat them here in the Sosua Forum. But a review of my blog will give insight into my pussy operations on the South coast that I have been running on the South Coast since I moved onto the island.
True game broken down to it's most simply element is giving a girl your "non-sexual" attention in return for them to give you there "sexual attention". That is how you get pure free pussy. Some post up in here they run game of that type. Others operate pure play for pay. Some do a combination of both. But I do not look down on others for how they get their pussy.
[I]"No need to start a meter running, and tick off a menu before you bed down with a chica. "[/I] - Oakie.
You are right, have figured it out. But I knew how I wanted to run my operations since day one moving to the island. I have never had a complaint about starting a meter running or tick off a menu. Even with prostitutes. Never been my style. But you know that, since you have read all my posts carefully and demonstrated your knowledge of them by making several quotes without the need to even refer to the original text.
But since we are correcting, I'll state that you took my quote below out of context. Here is the context of what I said:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2543844]I can't agree with you there. I have yet to meet a girl smarter than I am or quite honestly a man either. But maybe it is just that I have a overly positive opinion about my own mental abilities. LOL![/QUOTE]And here is a Man in the arena that understood it:
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2544330]Jajaja. Nothing like a little sense of humor. Even when it is self-elevating rather than self deprecating.[/QUOTE]Just one more quote from you to close things out:
[QUOTE=Oakie;2545211]Tipping and gifting policy has been hotly debated here for years, and some posts are just thinly veiled knocks at other posters who have an opposite view on the issue.[/QUOTE]Nah, brother. Nothing is thinly veiled with you. You talk a good talk when it comes to diplomacy. But if you could play basketball or tennis you would understand that when you are responding to me your elbows are sharp under the basket while we are gaining position for the rebound. And you are hitting straight serves to the body.
We all in for the pussy. We don't love the girls! Vive Republica Dominicana! What a country! I shall now return to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life. LOL!
Reading the trip report for prices during covid. Things have change in the past year for girls.
I have been going to Sosua since about 2007. Gave up on long time. Too much hassle to get some action in the morning. So the going rate for short time in 2019 before covid.
I was paying 1500 p before 7 pm for short time. Sometime 2000 p. After 7 pm it was 2000 p for short time. Never had any problems with the girls turning me down after 7 pm. Plus I would give them one or two hundred tip for moto. (Going rate for longtime in town in 2019 was 3000 p).
If this guy want to spend 5000 p and is happy. It is his money. Just as long as he know what the going rate most other guys pay. You need to be educated on price where ever you go in the world before you get there. I am Asian expert on prices.
Its only one guy. Hopefully other guys will not follow and screw up going rate the girls usually expect.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2545691]My income is limited also. [/QUOTE]We never speak of this but now that this subject has come up, I am curious: What is amount of money one needs (per month / per annum), to live 1) a regular life without splurging and 2) a comfortable life, for example with a car etc. I presume that no one wants to buy a property there and so looking at it also from the perspective of a decent area rental costs.
Thanks.
This may help, [URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Santo-Domingo[/URL].
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2546144]We never speak of this but now that this subject has come up, I am curious: What is amount of money one needs (per month / per annum), to live 1) a regular life without splurging and 2) a comfortable life, for example with a car etc. I presume that no one wants to buy a property there and so looking at it also from the perspective of a decent area rental costs.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here's a start.
Because "comfortable" has so many meanings, Questner's link provides good info on a basket of products, and you can find rental info on line depending on location, location, location. I'm only familiar with Sosua and PP apartments.
In Sosua, centrally located, close to beaches, supermarkets, restaurants, a vacation vibe in the air, a one bedroom condo, with pool, pool bar, maid service, and security (meaning no bars on your widows, doors or balcony) goes for around 700 per month, averaged out over the year.
Without most of the above mentioned conveniences, ex pats I know pay 350 to 450. Quite a difference.
A one bed apartment in a residential area of PP goes for around 180. Transportation required to the above mentioned conveniences.
PM me if you want pics of the places mentioned.
Here's a little good news.
(See Coronavirus Covid-19 Bulletin #382/4 April 2021 for full text).
Active cases have been declining for around a month.
Despite the reduction in curfew hours and the significant increase in mobility, Covid-19 seems to be under control and spread declining in the Dominican Republic, as of the 4 April bulletin. The fewer Covid-19 cases are occurring as the nation is immersed in a nationwide inoculation drive. There is concern, nevertheless, that the great mobility of the population over the Easter Week holiday may bring a spike in cases. The effects of the Easter holiday on the spread of the virus will not be known until mid April.
The curfew is from 9 pm to 5 am on Monday to Friday, and on Saturdays and Sundays, the curfew is from 7 pm to 5 am. A three hour free transit period is allowed.
Open-air public spaces, such as parks and boulevards, can be used for activities other than social gatherings and always complying with preventive health protocols. Gyms, restaurants and bars are allowed to reopen to 60% of their capacity. A maximum of six persons per table is allowed, among other health protocols. Religious ceremonies are allowed three days a week, as long as they keep within 60% of the capacity of the church and churchgoers must keep their masks on during the service. Theaters have resumed showings under health protocols.
(Many schools are now re-opening).
Play safe!
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2544772]What are popular small gifts for the lady's? I brought a few small vibrators and sets of panties to Colombia and that was popular but even basic vibrators aren't cheap. Ideas?[/QUOTE]Ladies love clothes, dressy shoes, jewellery, hand bags.
On the expensive side you can take I phones.
I would just stick to money gifts. LOL!
I go to 5 below and buy inexpensive trinkets. Perfume is very much desired but only girls who are nice and compliant get the extras. When I meet a new girl who has a good atitude I get her number maintain contact. You can never have to many winners in your harem.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2548611]Ladies love clothes, dressy shoes, jewellery, hand bags.
On the expensive side you can take I phones.
I would just stick to money gifts. LOL![/QUOTE]
Has anybody noticed exchange rate $1=56.1 pesos.
So safely give 2500 LT?
[QUOTE=Sammon;2549217]Has anybody noticed exchange rate $1=56.1 pesos.
So safely give 2500 LT?[/QUOTE]I was in town for at 2 week leaving in March and from what I saw 2500 would barely get you st chicas were asking for Costa Rica prices. I don't monger much anymore but I'm going back to sosua to hang out tomorrow and will see what prices are like.
Thank you for sharing that video. I saw a few girls from the video. The best ways to do it is to get the girls number and hit them up when you need them, it's best to snap a pic of them so you can remember who they are. I plan to see 4:04 when I get back to Sousa next week. I had a great time with 4:43. It was hard to get the girl's at 1300 attention. I saw her and two different occasions and the men keep her busy. One guy who was talking to her told me that she will be busy for the next 2 weeks.
Are there any other Resorts just like that in DR. Let me know so I can try them. I'll be in DR for the next two months.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2531523]So after almost 20 years of reading this board I hope we can FINALLY can lay to rest of the sky is falling crap I. E. The end of Sousa. Because as you can see from the latest superbowl video (see link at the bottom. If link don't work go old school and copy and paste) that even during an pandemic, Sosua is NOT dead.
Now what these mangoes will charge you for their time is up for discussion at another junction.
[URL]https://youtu.be/gvMHD_wHEAc[/URL]
P.S. At the 12:10 mark in the video, the hunny in yellow, I can understand why folks that isn't season to the game, come down there, lose their mind and over pay market value just to see those legs in the air on your shoulder while you're crushing it. Hell don't let me find that mango on pay day LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kingkongmen;2549598]Thank you for sharing that video. I saw a few girls from the video. The best ways to do it is to get the girls number and hit them up when you need them, it's best to snap a pic of them so you can remember who they are. I plan to see 4:04 when I get back to Sousa next week. I had a great time with 4:43. It was hard to get the girl's at 1300 attention. I saw her and two different occasions and the men keep her busy. One guy who was talking to her told me that she will be busy for the next 2 weeks.
Are there any other Resorts just like that in DR. Let me know so I can try them. I'll be in DR for the next two months.[/QUOTE]Theres another spot in Sosua called Carribean Diamond that you should check out (see youtube link below). Also if you're staying in DR for 2 months I would highly suggest you start venturing outside of sosua. Start with the beaches. Theres one in Puerto plata, costambar beach, cabarete beach which has a nice nightlife. The ladies will naturally come to you. Ooh and when you venture outside of sosua please leave those sosua prices in sosua.
The streets are talking and I'm hearing dudes are taking there stimulus checks and losing their mind down there. Like going kukko for coco puff NUTS. My guide that lives down there that I've known for 14 yrs and have used his services when I'm intown is telling me that he got dudes paying 300 United States Dollars just to have female for toda la noche (hes getting a broker fee from the girls on the backend). And 100 usd just to be with a female for a couple hours. Thats NOT a typo. I literally had my guide repeat what hes saying and let him know I for damn sure will NOT be paying that. First off I only talk in pesos. So if any female talks in American dollars and not peso that's a HUGE red flag.
So as you venture outside of sosua understand that since you're staying down there for 2 months you should be trying to get whatever you pay for down to domincian prices as much as possible. Wether its women, catching a ride with a motoconcho haggle damn near everything. And don't be afraid to walk away from a big booty judy. Because youll still see that phat ass tomorrow where she'll agree to you terms but by then youll most likely find another hunny dip that's better and at a cheaper cost. Enjoy down there, have fun and be safe.
[URL]https://youtu.be/wEKgu8DtExI[/URL]
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2549773]Theres another spot in Sosua called Carribean Diamond that you should check out (see youtube link below).
[URL]https://youtu.be/wEKgu8DtExI[/URL][/QUOTE]Good to see Taylor Made Dreams living his best life! No doubt an inspiration to many wanting to follow in his footsteps.
Thank you for sharing the info. I will follow your advise.
What is the average price for the Sosua chica for 1-2 hours and for all night. I have given chicas $100 for a night and have given 4000 pesos for a short time. In the Capital, 2000 pesos.
I am staying away from tinder chicas now because those chicas want to maintain a relationship.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2549773]Theres another spot in Sosua called Carribean Diamond that you should check out (see youtube link below). Also if you're staying in DR for 2 months I would highly suggest you start venturing outside of sosua. Start with the beaches. Theres one in Puerto plata, costambar beach, cabarete beach which has a nice nightlife. The ladies will naturally come to you. Ooh and when you venture outside of sosua please leave those sosua prices in sosua.
The streets are talking and I'm hearing dudes are taking there stimulus checks and losing their mind down there. Like going kukko for coco puff NUTS. My guide that lives down there that I've known for 14 yrs and have used his services when I'm intown is telling me that he got dudes paying 300 United States Dollars just to have female for toda la noche (hes getting a broker fee from the girls on the backend). And 100 usd just to be with a female for a couple hours. Thats NOT a typo. I literally had my guide repeat what hes saying and let him know I for damn sure will NOT be paying that. First off I only talk in pesos. So if any female talks in American dollars and not peso that's a HUGE red flag.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingKongMen;2549967]Thank you for sharing the info. I will follow your advise.
What is the average price for the Sosua chica for 1-2 hours and for all night. I have given chicas $100 for a night and have given 4000 pesos for a short time. In the Capital, 2000 pesos.
I am staying away from tinder chicas now because those chicas want to maintain a relationship.[/QUOTE]Actually your prices are not that crazy considering how bonkers Sosua is at the moment. Remember stay in peso so not 100 usd but 5500 pesos (which is about 96 dollars). Most of the OG mongers stay out of that area simply because even at the prices you're paying is still consider ridiculous. Its like Vegas my main residence. A chica working in the casino at the Bellagio and the Wynn is going to start off no less then $500 dollars. Now you go outside the casinos and you'll see the same chica on Tropicana blvd working the street corner going for $75 dollars. Its the same within DR. As you venture away from Sosua you should have it in your mind to cut your Sosua prices in half. And your intangibles will play a big part in your cost. Do you speak spanish, do you have time on your side, how you treat a woman (because word spreads fast down there), understanding there culture etc all these factor into your cost negotiation. They'll be times that you can do everything right, negotiating up front etc and drama may still come your way. Don't be afraid to cut your loses and do what you need to do to end the drama ASAP. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you but youll know not to deal with that chica any more.
Anyway since you're down there for awhile use your best intangible asset which is time. You have time to tell a sosua chick that I'm only paying 4500 peso for all night. If they say no that's cool plenty of options outside of town thatll take that and even less. Ooh and one more thing NEVER underestimate these chicas. They may not be book smart but theyll size a dude up real quick. So if you come wide eyes looking like a kid in the candy store she already uping the price. You lusting over her curves in her mind she thinking I got his ass. So be cool. Interview her ass over a beer. See if she has some genuine interest of you and not just looking at the time as if she has better things to do. Getting the girls numbers like you're doing and testing them out for a couple hours between 2500 to 4000 pesos is a good pricing start. And again have the mind set to lower those prices over time.
Flow within the carribean madness of that island and understand with time and money down there youll be having more fun then ever. Be kind but firm. Be frugal but generous. Enjoy and write back some reports of your journey for us monger gents to read.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2549922]Good to see Taylor Made Dreams living his best life! No doubt an inspiration to many wanting to follow in his footsteps.[/QUOTE]SP what's up! Been a min bro! Yeah Taylor Made Dream is living the dream. Hope to see him when I go down there in June. He was talking about a nice latin Jazz club recently to check out in pop. Definitely have plans to check that out.
[QUOTE=KingKongMen;2549598]It was hard to get the girl's at 1300 attention. [/QUOTE]Evidently different things draw different people's penis' attention. But what I thought was funny was the fat guy in green. He would have a heart attack, working on all those phone numbers he is getting.
Especially 4:04 I can't believe that ass is real.
[QUOTE=KingKongMen;2549598]Thank you for sharing that video. I saw a few girls from the video. The best ways to do it is to get the girls number and hit them up when you need them, it's best to snap a pic of them so you can remember who they are. I plan to see 4:04 when I get back to Sousa next week. I had a great time with 4:43. It was hard to get the girl's at 1300 attention. I saw her and two different occasions and the men keep her busy. One guy who was talking to her told me that she will be busy for the next 2 weeks.
Are there any other Resorts just like that in DR. Let me know so I can try them. I'll be in DR for the next two months.[/QUOTE]
I spent couple of days SD then caught bus to Sosua. It was nothing like the good old days but there enough action to make it work. Had a couple winners and some not so great. My never again was catching a ride to SD with a girl I knew. The deal I buy 2000 pesos for gas she drives win win. Naaaaaaa. I said leave by 730. She comes at 650 great start and she has friend looking good. From here everthing goes down hill. She takes the scenics route to Santiago. 30 miles curved dirt roads. She is driving 30 mph she is the poster child for distracted driving.
Lighting cigarettes joints drinking beer while talking on phone. Scared shitless would desribe my mood. She stopped for beer smokes. Which made me nervioso for my flight. She has a very nice almost new car but the car over heating alarm came on. We go to a gas station to check it out more time. On the road again a road crew sprays asphaut on car covering front window a bit. We get some help from locals on side of road. This before we get to Santiago. Once in Santiago we stop again at a carwash to clean window car tic tic getting nervous. Why didn't catch 6 am caribe for 500 pesos. I figured 2000 pesos riding in comfort fair. My driver is now in afoul mood she loves her car.
She claims she has no money so I am buying the beer cigarrettes and tipping. She is of the opinion I should pay to clean her car.
Once by Santiago the roads were good. She went from 30 75 passing cars on shoulders and passing headon traffic. We get to airport 2 hours before flight.
She stops at a gas station to jack me for 1000 pesos more for gas. Before we get to gate she wants to know how I will pay for car cleaning. Said not my responsibility. The. Good news got airport in time but the experience tooks years off my life. Rule never allow your self to be under a DR chicas control. It could have gone much worse. I learned what I knew will miss a chance to screw no matter how cool you are with then. I thought i was in a Saturday night live skit.
I spent couple of days SD then caught bus to Sosua. It was nothing the good old days but there enough a tion to make it work. Had a couple winners and some not so great. My never again was catching a ride to SD with a girl I knew. The deal I buy 2000 pesos for gas she drives wi win. Naaaaaaa. I said leave by 730. She comes at 650 great start and she has friend looking good. From here eberthing goes down hill. She takes the scenics route to Santiago. 30 miles curved dirt roads. She is driving 30 mph was because she poster child for distracted driving.
Lighting cigarettes joints drinking beer while talking on phone. Scared shitless would desribe my mood. She stopped for beer smokes. Which made me nervioso for my flight. She has a very nice almost new car but the over heating came on. We at gas station to check it out more time. On the road again a road crew sprays asphaut on carcovering front window a bit. We some help from locals on side of road. This before we get to Santiago. Once in Santiago we stop again a car to clean window car tic tic getting nervous. Why didn't catch 6 am caribe for 500 pesos. I figured 2000 pesos riding in comfort fair. My driver is now in afoul mood she loves her car.
She claims she has no money so I am buying the beer cigarrettes and tipping. She is of the opinion I should pay to clean her car.
Once by Santiago the roads were good. She went from 30 75 passing cars on shoulders and passing I to headon traffic. We get to airport 2 hours before flight.
She stops at a gas station to jack me for 1000 pesos more. Before we get to gate she wants to know how I will pax for car cleaning. Said not my responsibility. The. Good news got airport in time but the experience tooks years off my life. Rule never allow your self to be under a DR chicas control. It could have gone much worse. I learned what I knew will miss a chance to screw no matter how cool you are with then.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2552744]
She stops at a gas station to jack me for 1000 pesos more. Before we get to gate she wants to know how I will pax for car cleaning. Said not my responsibility. The. Good news got airport in time but the experience tooks years off my life. Rule never allow your self to be under a DR chicas control. It could have gone much worse. I learned what I knew will miss a chance to screw no matter how cool you are with then.[/QUOTE]A 3000 plus Learning lesson. She wanted you to pay for her car being clean. You bought extra cigarettes and beer for their habits. She wanted more money for gas. She wasn't a friend in my eyes.
No she was not a friend. She like most Dominicans I know will take advantage when they get a chance. I was being a friend to her. I thought it could be a win win. She used me as much as she could. I was in a bad position. I did not wnt to miss my flight and did not have many options. I actually considered calling a Uber in Santiago. My total cost was closer to 5000 pesos. !0 times what the bus cost but less then 50% of a cab. The driver and the other female in the car were fussing with one another so I moved to front seat. The driver had one of the worst cases of ADHD I have ever seen. Her focus was every where but driving. I am glad that I did not have to put hands on her. Females generally iniate confrontation and men pay the price.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2553215]A 3000 plus Learning lesson. She wanted you to pay for her car being clean. You bought extra cigarettes and beer for their habits. She wanted more money for gas. She wasn't a friend in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2553297]The driver had one of the worst cases of ADHD I have ever seen. Her focus was every where but driving. I am glad that I did not have to put hands on her. [/QUOTE]LOL. OK at least you got a good story to tell out of it!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2553297] Females generally iniate confrontation and men pay the price.[/QUOTE]That may be, but insane DR driving habits are definitely not a gender thing. Years ago, a fellow monger introduced me to his friend, a retired colonel in Santiago. One day, he took us to the army base at the top of some hill for some national holiday party. Which was fun, but on the way back, down those pitch-dark windy mountain lane, he's nursing a cigarette in one hand, rum in a plastic cup in another, all the while talking to my buddy in the back seat and steering with his knees at some points. I'll never forget this ride.
I feel very fortunate to have survived. Honestly watching on coming cars coming while passing.
I was powerless. Never a good thing.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553319]LOL. OK at least you got a good story to tell out of it![/QUOTE]
Hola hombres,
Just arrived in POP a few days ago for a quick 2 week recon trip. First time in DR, staying in the Cabarete area but I rented a car which has definitely come in handy so far. Road and drivers aren't too bad, if you've driven in Mexico or CR or Bali then it's pretty much the same.
Finally had a chance to check out Sosua this afternoon but only for a bit. Decent talent out in the sweltering heat around 4 pm, but I imagine there's a lot more ladies out and about further in the evening. I got one chica's number that had massive tits, they looked real to me and her two friends were pretty cute too. I'll be checking out Sosua more thoroughly tomorrow (Friday) when I have more time, I'm traveling solo per usual so if anyone wants to grab a drink and chew the fat the first beers on me. Hopefully check out the talent at Ahnvee and Valeria as well. Feel free to PM me.
Quick question I haven't seen addressed in the forum yet: Does anyone have any advice on where to park when visiting Sosua? I don't mind paying a reasonable fee, I saw that Capt Bailee's had a parquedero so that's my only lead so far.
Also, any advice on where to eat? Everything has been lackluster so far, I thought Colombia was bad but the DR is definitely giving it a run for its money. So far I tried pretty decent wings at Crazy Ranch, an ok seafood bowl at Fresh Fresh, and pretty disappointing food at Cafe Tropical cafeteria. I'd love to try some authentic local food that's reasonably sanitary but I'm open to any and all suggestions. There seem to be some nice trendy cafes in Cabarete but I feel silly traveling all the way to the Caribbean and eating gringo food.
One other quick note, I was checking Tinder and noticed most of the girls seem to be located 25 or more miles away at a nearby college or something. Matched with one chick nearby who said she came to Sosua to work for the weekend but her pictures were nothing to get excited about. And besides, most of the girls on Tinder seemed like normal girls, not as many obvious prepagos like in Medellin. Is there any online action here at all or is it all in the streets and bars basically? Unless you live here I imagine of course.
!st parking is free and you park all most any where. Sosua has good food. Bailey offer good food and is a stomping ground for women. Rumbas and Ahnvee are the 2 best spots for meeting women and the beach. Just remember almost any woman you see is a potential bed mate.
[QUOTE=MSanchez;2553579]Hola hombres,
Just arrived in POP a few days ago for a quick 2 week recon trip. First time in DR, staying in the Cabarete area but I rented a car which has definitely come in handy so far. Road and drivers aren't too bad, if you've driven in Mexico or CR or Bali then it's pretty much the same.
Finally had a chance to check out Sosua this afternoon but only for a bit. Decent talent out in the sweltering heat around 4 pm, but I imagine there's a lot more ladies out and about further in the evening. I got one chica's number that had massive tits, they looked real to me and her two friends were pretty cute too. I'll be checking out Sosua more thoroughly tomorrow (Friday) when I have more time, I'm traveling solo per usual so if anyone wants to grab a drink and chew the fat the first beers on me. Hopefully check out the talent at Ahnvee and Valeria as well. Feel free to PM me.
Quick question I haven't seen addressed in the forum yet: Does anyone have any advice on where to park when visiting Sosua? I don't mind paying a reasonable fee, I saw that Capt Bailee's had a parquedero so that's my only lead so far.
Also, any advice on where to eat? Everything has been lackluster so far, I thought Colombia was bad but the DR is definitely giving it a run for its money. So far I tried pretty decent wings at Crazy Ranch, an ok seafood bowl at Fresh Fresh, and pretty disappointing food at Cafe Tropical cafeteria. I'd love to try some authentic local food that's reasonably sanitary but I'm open to any and all suggestions. There seem to be some nice trendy cafes in Cabarete but I feel silly traveling all the way to the Caribbean and eating gringo food.
One other quick note, I was checking Tinder and noticed most of the girls seem to be located 25 or more miles away at a nearby college or something. Matched with one chick nearby who said she came to Sosua to work for the weekend but her pictures were nothing to get excited about. And besides, most of the girls on Tinder seemed like normal girls, not as many obvious prepagos like in Medellin. Is there any online action here at all or is it all in the streets and bars basically? Unless you live here I imagine of course.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MSanchez;2553579]I got one chica's number that had massive tits, they looked real to me[/QUOTE]In DR you will not really find women with fake tits unless it is on a sculpted out glamour girl that you could find in Santo Domingo. If you find fake body parts then they will be on Venezuelan or Colombian immigrants. The 99.9% Sosua chick is poor and could not even afford such surgery.
[QUOTE=MSanchez;2553579]Does anyone have any advice on where to park when visiting Sosua?[/QUOTE]Any space you see on the street where your car will fit.
[QUOTE=MSanchez;2553579]I was checking Tinder and noticed most of the girls seem to be located 25 or more miles away at a nearby college or something.[/QUOTE]The chicks on Tinder are not at a nearby college. They are just in the other direction at home in the city of Puerto Plata.
The best places to meet mangoes in Sosua are:
Pedro Clisante. They have a lot of bars, restaurant, Chica friendly hotel and girls walking in the street. Ahnvee is also in Pedro Clisante. Same girls in Ahnvee wiil be in the areas.
Sosua Beach: Fast Freddies on Sosua Beach if you want great sea food / You will see both pro and non pro there. Best time is from 2 PM-5 PM. After 5 PM go to Pedro Clisante. I have not tried tried the other beaches yet but I will try them next week.
I would not recommend to use Tinder for chicas in Sosua. It is a waste of time unless you are looking for a relationship. I been in DR for 2 weeks now and I did not try to meet any girls from tinder.
[QUOTE=MSanchez;2553579]Hola h
Just arrived in POP a few days ago for a quick 2 week recon trip. First time in DR, staying in the Cabarete area but I rented a car which has definitely come in handy so far. Road and drivers aren't too bad, if you've driven in Mexico or CR or Bali then it's pretty much the same.
Finally had a chance to check out Sosua this afternoon but only for a bit. Decent talent out in the sweltering heat around 4 pm, but I imagine there's a lot more ladies out and about further in the evening. I got one chica's number that had massive tits, they looked real to me and her two friends were pretty cute too. I'll be checking out Sosua more thoroughly tomorrow (Friday) when I have more time, I'm traveling solo per usual so if anyone wants to grab a drink and chew the fat the first beers on me. Hopefully check out the talent at Ahnvee and Valeria as well. Feel free to PM me.
Quick question I haven't seen addressed in the forum yet: Does anyone have any advice on where to park when visiting Sosua? I don't mind paying a reasonable fee, I saw that Capt Bailee's had a parquedero so that's my only lead so far..[/QUOTE]
Sanchez, parking for Sosua Beach is a long the busy highway as you probably know by now, then you walk down the hill to the beach. Alicia is a nicer beach but Sosua is where the hookers roam in the afternoon. Then as Kong noted, in the evening it moves to the streets around town.
Don't know about local grub but by far the best restaurant I found is up the hill from Playero Supermarket. Hispanolia overlooks the golf course for a great ocean view. Try the tuna, it's insane. And ask for some garlic butter sauce for sopping, and mushroom gravy for the potatoes.
My experience on Tinder is opposite Kong's, it's mostly all players. Make sure your distance is set within just a few miles, obviously, but the search automatically widens as you go through the ones closest. A lot of them live in Sosua Abajo and Montellano, which arent that far, they can take a motorcycle. You might want to pay the 30 bucks to see who "liked" you. Also that lets you change your location to the next place you'll be to get a running start.
Personally, I like the beaches better in Sosua, but I think Puerto Plata is a lot better for good poon. Especially since you have transportation, you need that to get around the town. There's a ton of them on Cupid, better quality in my opinion than Sosua, where they are much more hard-core and overpriced. The beach in Puerto Plata is windy as hell whereas Sosua and Alicia are protected (the time of year I was there). But the strip of beach along Costembar is nice. It's good to bounce back-and-forth for a week at a time if you can.
I'm permanently working remotely now (perhaps the only positive thing to come out of COVID) and I am dying to take a working trip. I imagine staying in a hotel and being able to walk out the door between meetings and lunchtime and grab a girl and go back to the hotel and get to work. I'd like to go to Bogota but it seems they have alot of restrictions there so I was thinking of Sosua for this purpose. Any thoughts on this plan? Perhaps Boca Chica would be better? I'd like to stay in a nice place that has good wifi (need this for work).
Showdown.
Sosua has about 200 girls on the weekends looking for willing partners. The beaches, restaurants and streets all provide access to scores of women. Sosua also has many good options for eating. I am not sure how long it will take you to get board but you will enjoy Sosua.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2554596]I'm permanently working remotely now (perhaps the only positive thing to come out of COVID) and I am dying to take a working trip. I imagine staying in a hotel and being able to walk out the door between meetings and lunchtime and grab a girl and go back to the hotel and get to work. I'd like to go to Bogota but it seems they have alot of restrictions there so I was thinking of Sosua for this purpose. Any thoughts on this plan? Perhaps Boca Chica would be better? I'd like to stay in a nice place that has good wifi (need this for work).
Showdown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2554610]Sosua has about 200 girls on the weekends looking for willing partners. The beaches, restaurants and streets all provide access to scores of women. Sosua also has many good options for eating. I am not sure how long it will take you to get board but you will enjoy Sosua.[/QUOTE]OldKool thanks for responding. I've been to Sosua before but I am more concerned if COVID has dampened the number of girls. I remember there used to be two bars on opposite sides of the street from each other on a corner. I am hoping there is day action as well. I want to find a nice place to stay with good wifi that is close to the action. Any thoughts on where to stay?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2554703]OldKool thanks for responding. I've been to Sosua before but I am more concerned if COVID has dampened the number of girls. I remember there used to be two bars on opposite sides of the street from each other on a corner. I am hoping there is day action as well. I want to find a nice place to stay with good wifi that is close to the action. Any thoughts on where to stay?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Alicia beach hotel has good wi fi being managed by I believe Scandinavian couple. At least it was good before Covid.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2554596]I'm permanently working remotely now (perhaps the only positive thing to come out of COVID) and I am dying to take a working trip. I imagine staying in a hotel and being able to walk out the door between meetings and lunchtime and grab a girl and go back to the hotel and get to work. I'd like to go to Bogota but it seems they have alot of restrictions there so I was thinking of Sosua for this purpose. Any thoughts on this plan? Perhaps Boca Chica would be better? I'd like to stay in a nice place that has good wifi (need this for work).
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Sosua is definitely the best option since everything including girls is close. 5 min walk.
Only negative about sosua are the hotels. Most are budget hotels.
Casa valeria in my opinion is the best hotel close to the action. Its also a little quieter than other hotels and the wifi is good.
Alicia beach is a good option if you are looking for a very quiet place within 5 min walk of the action.
Would be nice if some folks here who are in Sosua right now can share their internet speed test to give people an idea on the quality of the internet in regards to working remotely.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555949] ..Only negative about sosua are the hotels. Most are budget hotels. [/QUOTE]This place is condos and I think they do real short term.
Club Residencial.
Pedro Clisante 32, Sosa 57000.
(809) 571-3675.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/H87E6x9sdZG4iw6Z7[/URL]
Sosua might be the easiest place in the country to get trim but with all due respect, I don't think it's the best. It may actually be the worst in some respects, but of course it all depends what you're after. Beach, bars, grub, point-n-dick. Ya, it's all there.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2555953]This place is condos and I think they do real short term.
Club Residencial.
Pedro Clisante 32, Sosa 57000.
(809) 571-3675.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/H87E6x9sdZG4iw6Z7[/URL]
Sosua might be the easiest place in the country to get trim but with all due respect, I don't think it's the best. It may actually be the worst in some respects, but of course it all depends what you're after. Beach, bars, grub, point-n-dick. Ya, it's all there.[/QUOTE]We all have our preferences. Thailand is too far, Columbia you got to worry about girl friendly hotel etc.
Sosua girls may be hardcore hustlers but everything is within walking distance. Beach, hotels, bars and restaurants. Perfect for a short term remote work experience.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555949]Sosua is definitely the best option since everything including girls is close. 5 min walk...[/QUOTE]Remote working is no problem in Sosua. There are a few options.
Most accommodations here provide a basic WIFI service with varying reliability. Bars and restaurants have free WIFI. So for the price of a coffee, agua or beer you can set up at a nice table inside or out. My carrier is Altice, so I don't even bother to carry the data package anymore, as free WIFI is available almost everywhere I go in town.
You can also set up your phone with Altice as a "personal hot spot" if you roll outside the local coverage.
My regular gifted me her personal rented Huwai router, so I'm not relying on my spotty apt service at home.
Also if you are a resident you could subscribe to a local expat entrepreneur who puts his own tower and sells 4 g to clients in his area. Love the lack of regulations, and free enterprise here.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555949]Sosua is definitely the best option since everything including girls is close. 5 min walk.
Only negative about sosua are the hotels. Most are budget hotels.
Casa valeria in my opinion is the best hotel close to the action. Its also a little quieter than other hotels and the wifi is good.
Alicia beach is a good option if you are looking for a very quiet place within 5 min walk of the action.
Would be nice if some folks here who are in Sosua right now can share their internet speed test to give people an idea on the quality of the internet in regards to working remotely.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if Alicia beach hotel is open. I always stay there. I sent them a message but they have not replied yet. Usually they are very prompt. Planning to go to Sosua middle of June if CDC removes test requirements for vaccinated people.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555949]
Would be nice if some folks here who are in Sosua right now can share their internet speed test to give people an idea on the quality of the internet in regards to working remotely.[/QUOTE]I went through a lot of phases with phones. I lost my old DR Sim card. Since December they have been requiring passports or identification to issue new Sim cards. I'm not comfortable with leaving my passport information in a Claro store. I've witnessed them taking previous people's passport information and using it to assign other people Sim cards off that information.
Now I just pay for an international plan Through my normal carrier. My T-Mobile here works better than it does in the US.
Business is slowly starting to pick up in the Sue. Street chicas are restarting their union and trying to include the Haitians. They are trying to establish 3000 pesos as the norm for st. I even got a quote for 4000. This place is good for quantity and accessibility however quality is always up for debate.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555955]We all have our preferences. Thailand is too far, Columbia you got to worry about girl friendly hotel etc.
Sosua girls may be hardcore hustlers but everything is within walking distance. Beach, hotels, bars and restaurants. Perfect for a short term remote work experience.[/QUOTE]So I just got back from a 2 week stay in Barranquilla and Santa Marta and stayed in several high end, resort style hotels in bot locations and I can assure you I had no problem getting women into any of them. One did charge me a small fee because I had 2 women overnight (for a couple of days actually). But none of the others gave me a lick of problems.
It may have had something to do with the fact that I had a Colombian girlfriend with me and we checked in together at all of them and typically either we went down together to meet the girl and went to the pool deck for drinks first. Other times I had her go down and bring them up. We also met several women at the hotel bar or pool that led to some adventures and twice met couples for the same.
I absolutely love Colombia and will be returning about every 6 weeks from here on out for a long weekend or so.
Based on all the reports about the DR and Cuba I probably need to expand my horizons a bit though. LOL.
Sure beats the hell out of the quality of woman you will typically get in the states unless you are willing to fork out tons of money.
I'll take Latin America over the good ole USA for mongering everyday.
Be safe and have a Blast.
SKY.
[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2556007]
I'll take Latin America over the good ole USA for mongering everyday.
.[/QUOTE]Let the church say amen. I can't wait to Cuba is up and running. A friend of mine said he would like to travel with me to Columbia because he's getting burnt out in the DR. Gogo explained to me along time ago you have to switch your countries. It makes you enjoy them both better. Cuba and Colombia gave me the switch up I need it. When I finally made it back to the DR I was more Appreciative.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2555949]Would be nice if some folks here who are in Sosua right now can share their internet speed test to give people an idea on the quality of the internet in regards to working remotely.[/QUOTE]I tested my internet speeds when I first arrived and I was pleasantly surprised, it was like 30 down and even 30 up I think, ping in the 60's or 70's. I just tested my internet speed again right now and it's 4 up and 4 down. No idea why, maybe because it's Sunday. This is all using [URL]speedtest.net[/URL] and I'm staying closer to Cabarete (Cable Atlantico SRL). I'm also staying at a larger shared building so maybe someone is hogging all the bandwidth here today. But it definitely doesn't feel slow for some reason if that's any consolation. I've had much worse internet at my last condo in Medellin.
Quick mini monger report: I've only had sessions with 3 girls since I've been here, mainly because I'm not staying in Sosua proper and been busy with work and other stuff. But it's definitely true that prices are higher, the quality of girls is somewhat lacking, and GFE is definitely not the norm. Also most of the women seem to be older and they almost always have had kids already. The plus side of the chicas here is that they are definitely more voluptuous on average than Colombian girls. I like my girls curvier and all-natural so I'm not complaining. But if you're looking for model type spinners they are definitely more rare out here. Out of the 3 girls, 2 had great big natural tits, 2 were MILFs with gnarly see section scars but not a whole lot of stretch marks surprisingly, and one was a 20 yo flaquita with nice perky be's and no kids. Only 1 of the girls was GFE light, the other 2 were definitely more business like. I should also mention 2 girls were from Ahnvee, one was from a cafe on the street. All 3 were visiting and not from this actual area. Two of them started out asking for 120 usd but agreed to 5 k pesos. The flaquita accepted 4 k pesos. There was a street girl near Valeria offering a massage and sexo to basically anyone passing by for 2500 pesos tho so the deals are still out there, who knows how the service would have been like though. Also, I'd estimate about at least 60 or 70% of the girls out here are black or black mixed, not a whole lot of light skin or European looking girls out here but there are some. Colombia definitely has hotter women for way less money and even more GFE on average I'd say. Sosua is more like Jaco I guess, but it's been years since I've been back there.
Quick tip for newbies about Ahnvee, it really only starts to get popping starting at 9 pm at the very earliest, better around 10 to midnight and they are open until 3 am apparently. Curfew really doesn't seem to be enforced out here but I heard there are roadblocks if you're leaving Sosua heading to Puerto Plata or heading out east leaving cabarete. But I wouldn't have even known there a was curfew if everything didn't close at 9 pm basically.
And thanks to all the guys who replied to my previous post here. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. Sosua really isn't that complicated when it comes to mongering here, the hard part seems to be having the time and patience to filter through all the chaff to find the hidden gems. Finally found some decent places to eat too but nothing amazing to be honest.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2556002]Business is slowly starting to pick up in the Sue. Street chicas are restarting their union and trying to include the Haitians. They are trying to establish 3000 pesos as the norm for st. I even got a quote for 4000. This place is good for quantity and accessibility however quality is always up for debate.[/QUOTE]I haven't been in the su or sd in a min and planning to, I notice bunch of dimes or nearly dimes in sd according to Skokka asking for 3000,2500 and even less. S wtf is going on in the su? Also several trip reports confirm those. The point is why has the quality gone down in Sosua yet price went up? Not making much sense. Girls are hotter in sd for sure yet costs remain consistent and even lower with all the Colombianas and Venezolonas that invaded the island.
Ex: I know some use fake pic but this type of ad isn't usually fake when they blur their faces. Anyhow looks like a solid 8 body, 3000 pesos: [URL]https://do.skokka.com/escorts/santo-domingo/valeria-tu-sexy-atractiva-fqet270098193/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Sammon;2555998]Does anyone know if Alicia beach hotel is open. I always stay there. I sent them a message but they have not replied yet. Usually they are very prompt. Planning to go to Sosua middle of June if CDC removes test requirements for vaccinated people.[/QUOTE]Why let that stop you it should be said that getting a test to get back to America has been made even easier as they will now come to your hotel to administer the test. Maybe you are worried about the possibility of coming up positive in that case ok it's unlikely but if you can't afford to miss time then that's fair.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2556184]Why let that stop you it should be said that getting a test to get back to America has been made even easier as they will now come to your hotel to administer the test. Maybe you are worried about the possibility of coming up positive in that case ok it's unlikely but if you can't afford to miss time then that's fair.[/QUOTE]Yes, although I have been vaccinated on the offhand chance of testing positive, false positive or mistake by the lab I am afraid of being quarantined. I am sure pretty soon CDC will exempt vaccinated people from testing requirements.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2556160]Girls are hotter in sd for sure yet costs remain consistent and even lower with all the Colombianas and Venezolonas that invaded the island.
Ex: I know some use fake pic but this type of ad isn't usually fake when they blur their faces. Anyhow looks like a solid 8 body, 3000 pesos:[/QUOTE]Like you said, she is Venezuelan, not Dominican. Venezuelans have not invaded the island. They have only invaded Santo Domingo and Punta Cana. I think I have only ever seen mention of 1 Venezuelan being mentioned in this section and that was like a couple of years ago. The same type hotel that would cost me $45 in Sosua, costs me $25 in Santo Domingo. Taxi is cheaper in Santo Domingo than in Sosua. Maybe things are cheaper in the capital because there is a larger supply?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556556]Like you said, she is Venezuelan, not Dominican. Venezuelans have not invaded the island. They have only invaded Santo Domingo and Punta Cana. I think I have only ever seen mention of 1 Venezuelan being mentioned in this section and that was like a couple of years ago. The same type hotel that would cost me $45 in Sosua, costs me $25 in Santo Domingo. Taxi is cheaper in Santo Domingo than in Sosua. Maybe things are cheaper in the capital because there is a larger supply?[/QUOTE]I saw quite a few Venezuelan girls at Ahnvee last time I was there before Covid. I heard they charge 10000 pesos for LT.
I went to foxy's yesterday and got quoted the following:
350 for ladies drink.
1000 for erotic dance.
5500 pesos for sex.
There is no way I am paying 5500. There has to be a list of known decently priced brothels: does anyone know any or where to find? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Sammon;2556452]I am sure pretty soon CDC will exempt vaccinated people from testing requirements.[/QUOTE]I think that's highly unlikely. The Vaccination is to protect your body from the virus. It doesn't prevent you from getting the virus or transmitting it. That's the purpose requiring everyone to take a test to re-entry the US.
Friend of my had the shots. Must still wear a mask in case he gets covid so he can't give it to others.
I don't make up this shit!!
Last visit 3 weeks ago was 2,500 / hour.
[QUOTE=Pv118;2556561]I went to foxy's yesterday and got quoted the following:
350 for ladies drink.
1000 for erotic dance.
5500 pesos for sex.
There is no way I am paying 5500. There has to be a list of known decently priced brothels: does anyone know any or where to find? Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hello Sirs,
Long time Sosua Vet, FYI seems like TMBTS is down for a few days.
Any ways, kudos sirs lot of good info on this forum, will keep members posted on future trips, I average 4 trips a year 7 -15 days per visit.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2556982]Friend of my had the shots. Must still wear a mask in case he gets covid so he can't give it to others.
I don't make up this shit!![/QUOTE]3 weeks after your second shot you have probably 90% protection. There's still the 10%. And. There is a possibility (probably not a high probability) that people that are immune to Covid can still carry it in their nasal passages because the antibodies can't get at it there. Who knows. But, the big reason is that you basically have to have everyone wear masks or no one. Otherwise you can't enforce or do anything with public rules. Stores are not going to have the ability to determine if your claim to have been vaccinated and when is sufficient to let you in without a mask.
So. For the meantime, suck it up. Wear a mask. It really doesn't hurt. And it helps your fellow man. And when enough get vaccinated that this thing dies down everyone can take them off.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2556982]Friend of my had the shots. Must still wear a mask in case he gets covid so he can't give it to others.
I don't make up this shit!![/QUOTE]No, you don't. The shots dramatically reduce transmissions, infections and severe cases, but don't eliminate them. It's been clearly communicated by the CDC, state health departments and the media.
On a personal level, vaccination surely didn't hurt me since I didn't catch the disease while being in close proximity to a few sick relatives for days before and after they showed symptoms. Just get your shots or it'll never be over.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2556184]Why let that stop you it should be said that getting a test to get back to America has been made even easier as they will now come to your hotel to administer the test. Maybe you are worried about the possibility of coming up positive in that case ok it's unlikely but if you can't afford to miss time then that's fair.[/QUOTE]There a few places to get a rapid tes, t one I can think of, Labitorio clinico same day testing, in at 9 am results by 3 pm In the plaza past bailies 2000 pesos.
New CDC Guidelines: Fully vaccinated people may remove their mask 30 days after they have died.
[QUOTE=LoveSeeker;2557433]New CDC Guidelines: Fully vaccinated people may remove their mask 30 days after they have died.[/QUOTE]That's funny, thumbs up!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556556]Like you said, she is Venezuelan, not Dominican. Venezuelans have not invaded the island. They have only invaded Santo Domingo and Punta Cana. I think I have only ever seen mention of 1 Venezuelan being mentioned in this section and that was like a couple of years ago. The same type hotel that would cost me $45 in Sosua, costs me $25 in Santo Domingo. Taxi is cheaper in Santo Domingo than in Sosua. Maybe things are cheaper in the capital because there is a larger supply?[/QUOTE]Things are cheaper in Santo Domingo. Oh shit! Say it ain't so. Who would have though. Other than those who already know. Thank you for that information Mr. Enternational. After all what do I know? I live in Santo Domingo este not Sosua. LOL!
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Except for Nevada the US does not have legal brothels. Prior to discovering the DR I enjoyed srip clubss and went to clubs all over the US. On a few occasions I did arrange hook ups The girls were freelancing and not affiliated with the clubs. I went to strip clubs not expecting sex but seeinng pretty girls take their cloths off was just fine. The 5500 quoted is the norm for most Casas with a few exceptions. Personally I was shocked when I went to my 1st DR casa and was quoted 150 for a in house 1 pop. This was 10 years ago in Punta Cana. The girls were all gorgeous. Any time there is a middle man you are being ripped off.I prefer to have a semi pro pretending to be my girl friend. I will spend 5500 pesos a day and have great sex all day. To each their own
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;2558183]Beehe Un on here for for years and I will never understand those that go to a strip club on any continent and complain of the cost. They are modeled after their American sisters and the prices will always be higher than a brothel or street. Its asinine to go if you don't want to pay the prices. Some things just are not for you nor need your opinion regarding its need to exist.[/QUOTE]
I have no questions about Sosua. But thank you for the offer to answer them.
I think a place where you can walk to everything in 10 minutes can be found out by simply walking. Plus if you look up "The Free Society" on youtube they have excellent videos where they are doing just that.
"The 5500 quoted is the norm for most Casas with a few exceptions."
I am not aware of prices of Casas in Sosua. I have not ever been to one there. In Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este 5500 DOP are only the prices at the "High Class" casas. In my personal experience I have been to many casas in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este with prices quotes of less than that. A search of the Santo Domingo forum will reveal them.
But if you are a casa hater then you would not know this now would you? Still even if you hate casas that is no reason to spread information that is not accurate about them.
Hey guys!
Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street? Or is there any casa with older women?
Hey guys!
Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street? Or is there any casas with older women?
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558487]Hey guys!
Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street? Or is there any casas with older women?[/QUOTE]There are some white cougars who like the black dick, and older black ladies who mostly serve as companions for older and ailing ex-pats!
Casas I'm not familiar with.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558487]Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street? Or is there any casas with older women?[/QUOTE]Plenty. But be aware that they do not age like wine. I don't know what you have in your mind of how this old Dominican chick will look, but being a hooker in addition to an islander, chances are that time will not have been kind to her.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558487]Hey guys!
Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street? Or is there any casas with older women?[/QUOTE]This one was always a good time. Goes by brunette Wendy the other is a long.
Time vet Vicky.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558487]Is it possible to hook up with some cougars in the street?[/QUOTE]I'm sure Patricia is still running the streets. BTW, check for weapons.
[QUOTE=Sabor;2558587]This one was always a good time. Goes by brunette Wendy the other is a long.
Time vet Vicky.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I'll be staying on DR Rosen street. Heard many newbies stay in the area. Any recommendations on where to find the girls? Any tips for a newbie? Any bar where you can sit and drink and talk with some ladies?
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558669]Thanks guys. I'll be staying on DR Rosen street. Heard many newbies stay in the area. Any recommendations on where to find the girls? Any tips for a newbie? Any bar where you can sit and drink and talk with some ladies?[/QUOTE]Start your day at the public beach. Find your favourite beach bar or 'casita'.
Sunday is the day to get lucky with your older civilian Dominican.
German restaurant / bar near Hotel Central on Pedro Clisante is a nice spot from 5 pm to 7 pm.
You can try a bar inside Europa Hotel. Later into the night bar at Ahnvee Hotel, bar at Coco Hotel, Casino Playa Chiquita, Caribbean Diamond, Copacabana restaurant, and bar at Las Palmeras.
There are girls few that probably close to their 40's and still working, most are slim and still look presentable. I usually give them my nicknames. One is 'Dolphin Head', and the second is 'Mummy', LOL, seemingly she has signed a contract with time itself.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2558669]Thanks guys. I'll be staying on DR Rosen street. Heard many newbies stay in the area. Any recommendations on where to find the girls? Any tips for a newbie? Any bar where you can sit and drink and talk with some ladies?[/QUOTE]If you are staying in the Dr Rosen area, don't worry, about finding chicas, they'll find you.
In addition to the places mentioned by Questner, there are a few bars around Dr Rosen that attract the ladies in the evenings.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2558648]I'm sure Patricia is still running the streets. BTW, check for weapons.[/QUOTE]Man, Father Time has not been too kind to little miss crazy!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2559000]Man, Father Time has not been too kind to little miss crazy![/QUOTE]But, I give her credit for surviving her lifestyle; what ever that might be.
Quick question: is nana the bartender at wild pony a working girl? Thanks I'm advance!
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2558648]I'm sure Patricia is still running the streets. BTW, check for weapons.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2559000]Man, Father Time has not been too kind to little miss crazy![/QUOTE]Patricia was one of my go to girls about 10-11 yrs ago. She acted crazy but she was very respectful and attentive with me. My boys at the time thought that I was crazy for dealing with Pat because of her reputation, but it didn't phase me because I'm from the streets also. Although I do remember a time when she grabbed me up on a motorcycle and took me deep into the hood with some of her compadres. At first I was scared shitless, because I didn't know anyone there nor did I know where I was. So I had to rely on my "street wisdom" to remain calm. It turn out to be a cool introduction and gave me some "legitimacy", where if I had a problem, I knew some people. Mostly, I had some good times with Patty. Peace.
I see the curfew has been extended to the 30th. What affect is this having on the nightlife? Are after hour spots a thing? More partying at the hotels? Or are guys keeping chicks over night to makeup for not being able to party late?
The girls on the ground are the more desperarate types. These girl will do anything to get your money legal and otherwise. It is really hard to judge because some these hardcore girls can give you a great time if they are teed up but you can get bad time as well. So my advice is be very carefull in Sosua. The girls will promise you the world and give you a headache.
[QUOTE=Pv118;2559208]Quick question: is nana the bartender at wild pony a working girl? Thanks I'm advance![/QUOTE]I am going to take a wild guess. Every girl in Sosua is working girl. Bartender, waitress, maid.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2560902] The girls will promise you the world and give you a headache.[/QUOTE]Isn't that the truth all over the world?
We all get good apples and bad apples. It is just that what part of the bad Apple you want to enjoy. Even the bad ones can turn out to be wild in bed and show their good side once in a while. Remember they are all doing it for money not because they love you.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2555998]Does anyone know if Alicia beach hotel is open. I always stay there. I sent them a message but they have not replied yet. Usually they are very prompt. Planning to go to Sosua middle of June if CDC removes test requirements for vaccinated people.[/QUOTE]After reading previous reports and visiting BB and Sosua for the first time and by myself, I stayed in Alicia Beach Hotel 5/8-5/10 earlier this month. My room was poolside and very nice. The food in the restaurant was very good and the hotel is chica friendly but limited to 1 overnight guest. Internet was acceptable. Also, enjoyed stay at BB albeit a rather limited selection but definitely picked up on the Friday evening I was there.
Unconfirmed report. If true, there will be lots of talent hitting the hotel bars. Prices should drop.
Late payoff or actual COVID concerns?
P Chop.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2561781]Unconfirmed report. If true, there will be lots of talent hitting the hotel bars. Prices should drop.
Late payoff or actual COVID concerns?
P Chop.[/QUOTE]Definitely some nefarious shit goin on. Last year their rooms were about 100 bucks and now 200. An entrance fee of 10 bucks that's not applied to any drink or food purchase? Smells like they are having to wet some big beaks. I was just there weeks ago, and a chica I know from Santo Domingo who swore she wouldn't be caught dead in Sosua, just happened to bring her talents to Ahnvee. No way they touch Ahnvee there's just too much money goin thru the place.
Hello and good morning gentlemen. I have been in the Sosua and Puerto Plata area just under since September. The information comes directly from my personal experiences, observations and direct discussion with both locals / expats. Restaurants that I enjoy for Valué are Matteos Seaside Pub on Pedro Clisante. Ramonas for their Dominan Plate also on Pedro Clisante is part of or connected with Hotel Europa. Osteria Toscaña for their pizza also located on Pedro Clisante. Flip Flop Sports Bar also on Pedro Clisante near Casino Coral and Osteria Toscaña. There are several local restaurants on Pedro Clisante just pass Surfs Liquor store where you can get a 150RD meal of a rice, a meat and salad. I'm a pizza guy and out of the 5 restos I've tried, NBlounge, Osteria Toscaña, Margot, bologna, call a pizza, my choice is osteria toscaña for quality. Margot / bologna would follow although my wait time avg has been no less than 40-45 minutes. The worst would be call a pizza, a margherita pizza is sauce, cheese and fresh basil in my book Not oregano. Bars that I enjoy for value are Rumba / Kings on Pedro clisante, Flip Flop Sports bar, brick city flames, ramonas, md's, matteos and jarabli. All locations are on pedro clisante. One thing that I learned by asking questions is that all restos charge an 18% (itbis) tax. The items price may or may not include the tax. The second charge is called (legal / ley), this is the 10% service tax (tip) that may or may not be included on your bill. If not included in your bill then you can decide to leave a tip. If it is included in your bill and you leave a tip you are essentially tipping twice. Value means quality, location, consistent, price. So, when I go to ramonas for the dominican plate rd250 or matteos for breakfast and café rd275, I know their prices include the 18% tax and you can leave a tip if you choose to it's not built into your bill. Some restos will include the 28% tax in your overall bill and expect you to tip as well. Travel, when traveling to Puerto Plata, ill take a taxi (aka carrito / taxi colectivo directly across the street from la bomba / gasolinera / tex ahhco to the hospital and get out at the semáforo (traffic light). The hospital and taxi stand / carritos de sosua will be on your left. From there you can grab a motoconcho for 30-35 to the local vicinity (la sirena, jumbo, miami bar, atlanta lights, metro bus station, guramboa and along the malecon. When it's time to return to sosua say carritos de sosua given them 35 pesos and they will take you to the taxi stand near the hospital. Once you arrive their may be a cue / line, wait for a taxi, the first four people are let in, you pay 90 pesos (you say para sosua or sosua) and you'll be dropped off at the same spot, directly across the street from texaco. Same process and location for Cabarete but the cost is 35 pesos for taxi. Yes, you can make requests to be dropped off in between their designated route. For example, if you wanted to go to the malecon you could get off near the roundabout and catch a motoconcho for 30 pesos. After hours Sosua: on weekends Friday and Saturday after the bars close (10 p, m-f, 9 p, sat / sun) are Ahnvee, copacabaña, ramonas, treehouse, casino coral reef with disco. I can't speak to Caribbean Diamond or Hotel Voramor having afterhour service. Cabaña, Dulce Secreto is located in the Playa Chiquita área off of Calle alejo martínez in the direction of Hotel votamos and caribbean diamond. If you needed another location to spend time with your female friends. Cost:750rd-4 hours, 1500rd-night. Finally, after curfew I've walked the streets mostly and I've seen travel amongst the community in cars, motoconchos and on feet. I'll see the cops and continue on my journey with no problem. On other ocasiones I would be stopped shaken down and asked where are you going or they may ask for documents. At this point I would present my phone and show a foto of my passport, and tell them any combination of the following: I'm a tourist on vacation, I'm traveling to my hotel, I'm traveling to the farmacy I'm traveling to the restaurant. This three hour travel window is unclear but I've noticed if you travel by motoconcho cost is 100rd and they will employ escape measures if they see any cops / roadblocks. The taxi minivans can cost 300-500rd from your location to say ahnvee. Chirito is a dominican taxi driver and he speaks some english cost is 300, +1 (829) 275-7551. Enjoy your travels gents.
[QUOTE=Questner;2558731]Start your day at the public beach. Find your favourite beach bar or 'casita'.
Sunday is the day to get lucky with your older civilian Dominican.
German restaurant / bar near Hotel Central on Pedro Clisante is a nice spot from 5 pm to 7 pm.
You can try a bar inside Europa Hotel. Later into the night bar at Ahnvee Hotel, bar at Coco Hotel, Casino Playa Chiquita, Caribbean Diamond, Copacabana restaurant, and bar at Las Palmeras.
There are girls few that probably close to their 40's and still working, most are slim and still look presentable. I usually give them my nicknames. One is 'Dolphin Head', and the second is 'Mummy', LOL, seemingly she has signed a contract with time itself.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info dude! I'm like RobinHo87, looking for a nice shag with a mature chica. Preferably decent looking and with a 'culo grande' .
I'm an older guy now & can't run like I used to in my early mongering days.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2561781]Unconfirmed report. If true, there will be lots of talent hitting the hotel bars. Prices should drop.
Late payoff or actual COVID concerns?
Anyone find out if this information is true or not ? Any update on this ?
P Chop.[/QUOTE]Anyone find out if this is true or not yet?
[QUOTE=BlkPanther;2562570]Thanks for this info dude! I'm like RobinHo87, looking for a nice shag with a mature chica. Preferably decent looking and with a 'culo grande' .
I'm an older guy now & can't run like I used to in my early mongering days.[/QUOTE]You can also look at predominantly local places like car washes on Thu-Sat weekends (El Flow bar moved to a car wash near the highway; mapped by Google) or 'tipico' bars in Puerto Plata or Santiago or any township in the region. Food courts like one at La Sirena supermarket in Puerto Plata is a place to start a conversation (after all big butts should be well fed).
[QUOTE=Questner;2562605]You can also look at predominantly local places like car washes on Thu-Sat weekends (El Flow bar moved to a car wash near the highway; mapped by Google) or 'tipico' bars in Puerto Plata or Santiago or any township in the region. Food courts like one at La Sirena supermarket in Puerto Plata is a place to start a conversation (after all big butts should be well fed).[/QUOTE]LOL! I agree. Thanks!
[QUOTE=BlkPanther;2562570]Thanks for this info dude! I'm like RobinHo87, looking for a nice shag with a mature chica. Preferably decent looking and with a 'culo grande' .
I'm an older guy now & can't run like I used to in my early mongering days.[/QUOTE]You should have no problem getting mature full bodied women for free. These are the women dated by the guys on this site who refer to their girlfriends or freebies.
[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2561781]Unconfirmed report. If true, there will be lots of talent hitting the hotel bars. Prices should drop.
Late payoff or actual COVID concerns?
P Chop.[/QUOTE]I have acquaintances (expats) who live in Sosua and wrote to say that the police made the patrons leave the bar and casino but didn't "raid" it. I don't enjoy being near the discourteous crowd the hotel typically draws and miss how open Sosua used to be in the evening where mongers could pick from a variety of establishments.
So I was looking at some of the resorts that are offered in the DR, I found [URL]playboyvacation.com[/URL] and Dr Nights are these legit and worth it or are they a scam?
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2563026]I have acquaintances (expats) who live in Sosua and wrote to say that the police made the patrons leave the bar and casino but didn't "raid" it. I don't enjoy being near the discourteous crowd the hotel typically draws and miss how open Sosua used to be in the evening where mongers could pick from a variety of establishments.[/QUOTE]There are still lots of bars open, except those that are closed permanently, and still lots of chicas to be found there and on the beach. Curfew is 10 pm weekdays, and 9 on weekends. Hotel and condo apartment bars are exempt, of course.
Many street bars have gotten around the enforced eviction notice to move to the North end of Pedro, simply by putting in a food counter to qualify as a restaurant, LOL. There's a lot of renovation going on so it changes from week to week.
As far as Sosua being a tourist trap, no more or worse than any other tourist place, and if you are a resident, or a regular, it is a non issue.
In my local bar, they sell cigarettes for convenience at inflated prices, $3 or $4 a pack. But I can send a chica or a moto a block or so down the street and get a 10 pack carton for $18 or so, without leaving the bar.
Same with chicas, you can take your chances on the street, or take a little time to pick from many in the bars and beach over a coke or a beer. Most serving staff are available, and if you tip well, they'll be all over you like flies, LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2563117]There are still lots of bars open, except those that are closed permanently, and still lots of chicas to be found there and on the beach. Curfew is 10 pm weekdays, and 9 on weekends. Hotel and condo apartment bars are exempt, of course.
Many street bars have gotten around the enforced eviction notice to move to the North end of Pedro, simply by putting in a food counter to qualify as a restaurant, LOL. There's a lot of renovation going on so it changes from week to week.
As far as Sosua being a tourist trap, no more or worse than any other tourist place, and if you are a resident, or a regular, it is a non issue.
In my local bar, they sell cigarettes for convenience at inflated prices, $3 or $4 a pack. But I can send a chica or a moto a block or so down the street and get a 10 pack carton for $18 or so, without leaving the bar.
Same with chicas, you can take your chances on the street, or take a little time to pick from many in the bars and beach over a coke or a beer. Most serving staff are available, and if you tip well, they'll be all over you like flies, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been to Sosua since the bar migration moving up North. The only bar that was still open on PC when I went last time was Jolly Rancher, and Jolly Rancher seems to draw the early evening crowd. I did have more than one waitress at the beach offer companionship and chose one. We had good chemistry, but last time she wasn't there any longer. I don't consider Sosua a tourist trap other than Ahnvee and some of the girls. Overall New Garden was decent and had a decent restaurant. I will wait and see if Sosua settles down and likely return.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2563694]I have been to Sosua since the bar migration moving up North. The only bar that was still open on PC when I went last time was Jolly Rancher, and Jolly Rancher seems to draw the early evening crowd. I did have more than one waitress at the beach offer companionship and chose one. We had good chemistry, but last time she wasn't there any longer. I don't consider Sosua a tourist trap other than Ahnvee and some of the girls. Overall New Garden was decent and had a decent restaurant. I will wait and see if Sosua settles down and likely return.[/QUOTE]If you come now you'll find lots of bars open on downtown Pedro.
Bar Central, Meringue, old Rumba, the German Bar, old Sinatras, where you can post up and watch the passing scene from the front open windows.
Instead of the plastic seats in front of the other little bars, they now serve food, so they have tables on the sidewalk, so if you want to kick back on the sidewalk, you'll have to buy a coke, agua, beer or whatever.
On the side streets you got Spanky's, old Fraggle Rock (in front of the Alicia hotel).
Mid town you got the new Europa bar, Cheers, Jabila and the street dive bars that have a food counter.
It's not the same as it used to be (what is? LOL) but as the supply of visitors increases, do does the supply of chicas, in direct proportion. So overall the numbers are down, but the ratio of chicas to mongers remains about the same, the action is now spread out all over town, so you won't run shor, and no need to go to Ahnvee, if you don't enjoy that scene.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2563770]If you come now you'll find lots of bars open on downtown Pedro.
Bar Central, Meringue, old Rumba, the German Bar, old Sinatras, where you can post up and watch the passing scene from the front open windows.
Instead of the plastic seats in front of the other little bars, they now serve food, so they have tables on the sidewalk, so if you want to kick back on the sidewalk, you'll have to buy a coke, agua, beer or whatever.
On the side streets you got Spanky's, old Fraggle Rock (in front of the Alicia hotel).
Mid town you got the new Europa bar, Cheers, Jabila and the street dive bars that have a food counter.
It's not the same as it used to be (what is? LOL) but as the supply of visitors increases, do does the supply of chicas, in direct proportion. So overall the numbers are down, but the ratio of chicas to mongers remains about the same, the action is now spread out all over town, so you won't run shor, and no need to go to Ahnvee, if you don't enjoy that scene.[/QUOTE]Your report is really making me ponder if I should move from Blackbeard's on Sunday to Sosua. I always liked Sunday on the beach in Sosua. Two days in each place, but Sosua dies on Monday and late Sunday for that matter. Hmmm.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2563881]Your report is really making me ponder if I should move from Blackbeard's on Sunday to Sosua. I always liked Sunday on the beach in Sosua. Two days in each place, but Sosua dies on Monday and late Sunday for that matter. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]An update on the curfew.
The cops came into my bar today and shook hands and hugged the owner, as usual. They told him that as of today no alcohol can be served in bars or restaurants, or Colmados, after 3 pm for the next week. The servers were asked to put on masks and transfer the beverages to foam cups, then left.
So we're good to go till the usual curfew time 10 pm. WTF?
Didn't see this coming, but no real problem.
[QUOTE=DrDewman;2561872]Hello and good morning gentlemen. I have been in the Sosua and Puerto Plata area just under since September. The information comes directly from my personal experiences, observations and direct discussion with both locals / expats. Restaurants that I enjoy for Valu are Matteos Seaside Pub on Pedro Clisante. Ramonas for their Dominan Plate also on Pedro Clisante is part of or connected with Hotel Europa. Osteria Toscaa for their pizza also located on Pedro Clisante.
Flip Flop Sports Bar also on Pedro Clisante near Casino Coral and Osteria Toscaa. There are several local restaurants on Pedro Clisante just pass Surfs Liquor store where you can get a 150RD meal of a rice, a meat and salad. I'm a pizza guy and out of the 5 restos I've tried, NBlounge, Osteria Toscaa, Margot, bologna, call a pizza, my choice is osteria toscaa for quality.
Margot / bologna would follow although my wait time avg has been no less than 40-45 minutes. The worst would be call a pizza, a margherita pizza is sauce, cheese and fresh basil in my book Not oregano. Bars that I enjoy for value are Rumba / Kings on Pedro clisante, Flip Flop Sports bar, brick city flames, ramonas, md's, matteos and jarabli.
All locations are on pedro clisante. One thing that I learned by asking questions is that all restos charge an 18% (itbis) tax. The items price may or may not include the tax. The second charge is called (legal / ley), this is the 10% service tax (tip) that may or may not be included on your bill. If not included in your bill then you can decide to leave a tip. If it is included in your bill and you leave a tip you are essentially tipping twice.
Value means quality, location, consistent, price. So, when I go to ramonas for the dominican plate rd250 or matteos for breakfast and caf rd275, I know their prices include the 18% tax and you can leave a tip if you choose to it's not built into your bill. Some restos will include the 28% tax in your overall bill and expect you to tip as well.
Travel, when traveling to Puerto Plata, ill take a taxi (aka carrito / taxi colectivo directly across the street from la bomba / gasolinera / tex ahhco to the hospital and get out at the semforo (traffic light). The hospital and taxi stand / carritos de sosua will be on your left. From there you can grab a motoconcho for 30-35 to the local vicinity (la sirena, jumbo, miami bar, atlanta lights, metro bus station, guramboa and along the malecon. When it's time to return to sosua say carritos de sosua given them 35 pesos and they will take you to the taxi stand near the hospital.
Once you arrive their may be a cue / line, wait for a taxi, the first four people are let in, you pay 90 pesos (you say para sosua or sosua) and you'll be dropped off at the same spot, directly across the street from texaco. Same process and location for Cabarete but the cost is 35 pesos for taxi. Yes, you can make requests to be dropped off in between their designated route.
For example, if you wanted to go to the malecon you could get off near the roundabout and catch a motoconcho for 30 pesos. After hours Sosua: on weekends Friday and Saturday after the bars close (10 p, m-f, 9 p, sat / sun) are Ahnvee, copacabaa, ramonas, treehouse, casino coral reef with disco.
I can't speak to Caribbean Diamond or Hotel Voramor having afterhour service. Cabaa, Dulce Secreto is located in the Playa Chiquita rea off of Calle alejo martnez in the direction of Hotel votamos and caribbean diamond. If you needed another location to spend time with your female friends. Cost:750rd-4 hours, 1500rd-night.
Finally, after curfew I've walked the streets mostly and I've seen travel amongst the community in cars, motoconchos and on feet. I'll see the cops and continue on my journey with no problem. On other ocasiones I would be stopped shaken down and asked where are you going or they may ask for documents.
At this point I would present my phone and show a foto of my passport, and tell them any combination of the following: I'm a tourist on vacation, I'm traveling to my hotel, I'm traveling to the farmacy I'm traveling to the restaurant. This three hour travel window is unclear but I've noticed if you travel by motoconcho cost is 100rd and they will employ escape measures if they see any cops / roadblocks.
The taxi minivans can cost 300-500rd from your location to say ahnvee. Chirito is a dominican taxi driver and he speaks some english cost is 300, +1 (829) 275-7551. Enjoy your travels gents.[/QUOTE]Ahhh now I can read and follow. Amazing what a few paragraphs can do for literacy and one's vision.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2566187]Ahhh now I can read and follow. Amazing what a few paragraphs can do for literacy and one's vision.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I presume, you tinkered with it to create the paragraphs. I gave it a wide berth for the same reason as you mentioned!
Arrived in the Sue on Thursday. I can tell by the amount of chicas on the bus the Sue was going to be packed. Everything seems a bit busier for a Thursday.
We got the word on Anhvee that night. They are only allowing their residence entry. A lot of girls triple up together to buy rooms hoping not having to sleep in there rooms.
The SW there are just too generic for me. Like my man said this place has a nostalgic with its location and accessibility of Chicas. However the overall chica quality is highly debatable. I am on the gone downhill team. With the overall asking price going up and the quality of chic is going down it Hass to be a really special reason for me to come here.
The new curfew hours of 3 PM to 5 AM on the south coast was the icing on the cake. Also adding the fact that I'm going to meet the 7 foot giant for the first time; the Sue is the place to be.
Hit some of the spots I like with my friends and seeing some old friends is what I like about the Sue. I turn my friends on to the barbershop, organic food restaurants, and best places to get rum punch.
The Chicas in front of Bailey's look like fancy slot machines with little cash out rewards. Gentlemen there definitely were some nice looking slot machines. They were all bright eyed and bushy tail and I'm not knock in their hustle. I'm just too seasoned or too spoiled to find them of much interest besides I candy.
Before we knew it night was upon us and The curfew was in effect. Before I go to Ahnvee I will take an L. I just set up superwoman for and early morning snack. I can redeem myself with her.
I told superwoman to be here on time at 10 o'clock in the morning. My room was at Europa and my check out was at 12. Figured I would knock superwoman off then check out And rendezvous with the Giant for our night fiesta.
The giant and I had it set up for 10 girls to be at our place for a pool party. Initially it was gogo the giant and myself; however Gogo saw the calm before the storm. That left me and the giant and 10 females. My job was not to have sex with 10 females. My job was to make sure every time the giant wanted to have sex I had a girl there waiting for him. You can call me Magic Johnson because I read the offense, break down defense and set up The big man for a slam dunk.
Though it was my birthday weekend celebration, the giant asked me for my assistance in making things happen for him. I couldn't say no. We had been talking and coordinating about this one day for the last Two weeks. The giant has started a diet and workout regiment in preparation for this event.
My me at 11 o'clock says she will be leaving Puerto Plata soon. No mommy you can cancel that. I told you at 10 o'clock now you're calling me an hour later. By the time you arrive it will be check out time. She's complaining she's already in the taxi. It's not my problem you were the one not on time. I will have to get with you later or not at all. She said OK and asked me to give her a time. I told her 4 o'clock. I figured by 4 o'clock the giant and I will have our room situated; I will Knock off my superwoman snack and send her on her way.
Meanwhile mama sans who is my contact forthe 10 girls is blowing up my phone. She has her chicas and she is ready. I told her at six or 7 o'clock but she's ready now. We had been hyping this party up and promising gift and prizes throughout the night. Plus we have free food and free drinks. The giant was paying 4000 pesos per girl and everyone is going to Have to put in work.
First unforeseen problem, the giant plane is late. The giant rent it a three bedroom mansion. I checked out my room so I was waiting for him. I thought he would have came and got me by 4 o'clock. He was supposed to pick up A Haitian girl and knock her off first. Then get ready for the party we're doing later on. Figured I will knock my Haitian girl off while he's doing his Haitian girl. Then send both of them on their way.
Superwoman and I are waiting at the treehouse across from the metro. It's about 5:30 PM and mama sans is blowing up my phone ready for the party. Man this shit is starting to go wrong real fast. I started to just go back to eat Roper and get me a room so I can knock off my Haitian treat in peace.
After talking to the giant on the phone he picks me up with three people already in the vehicle. There was no room for me more or less my girl. To top that off, they had a large cooler full of beer in the backseat. The giant who is 7 feet tall sitting in the front seat and insisting everyone can fit inside. I had a motor scooter so I just had my girl ride with them. Halfway to the house she had them stop the car because the ride was too uncomfortable.
We check into the house with everything being OK. It's a gated community so the area can be very quiet at times. The house came with a pool and a upstairs balcony. Both rooms upstairs had Air conditions. Very nice and homely.
I talk to the giant and his Haitian girl did not come through. He end up with another Haitian that was introduced to him by our assistant. Yes to giant paid to have a gofer with him the whole time he was there. A friend he's been knowing for a very long time.
OK we have our Haitian treats that we need to knock off quickly because we have 10 chicas ready for the party. The giant was ready because he hadn't smashed he's Haitian he knew for 30 minutes yet. My Haitian was ready because she was supposed to get it 10 o'clock this morning. I only give her 2500 and gift.
My Haitian treat I called her superwoman. She has the body of a goddess. She's 22 with no kids and sexy as hell. I've only had sex with her once before but we've been talking for a while. She's about 56 and 145 pounds. I salivated over her body for good four months before I could get a hold of her.
Mama sans is blowing up my phone. She wants to know where we live so she can bring her girls there. I told the giant we need to go ahead and knock our Haitians off. That was the first Gary Payton pass. The giant whipped out a condom and went to work. 15 minutes later I saw him killing her in the pool.
What the hell man you better save your energy you know we have a party. "I'm going to be ready I'm going to be ready," he replied. Meanwhile mama son is blowing up my phone. She has 10 Chicas and needs to know where to come.
OK mama sans give me a picture of your 10 girls that you have ready to come over. She send me some generic pictures of about seven chicas. No I need to see a picture of these 10 chicas that you have ready right now. Not some possibly three years ago photos. Mama son told me the photos she gave me were recent.
I don't care if they were early this morning pictures. It does not matter to me I need a right now photo before we have anyone come to our party. Then she started speaking in Spanish which really didn't matter to me. I pulled up her contact and blocked her. Either she can give me what I asked for or she can lose out on a payday.
Now the giant and I have been hyping mama San up for the last two weeks. We've been showing her pictures of gift and games we were going to be playing to keep everybody happy throughout the night. Mama sans said she can get 10 girls with no problems. The giant made a request that at least four of them be lesbians. (really the giant wanted all of them to be lesbians but I told him he was asking too much).
Mama sans was planning on putting in the work herself. The giant was paying 4000 per chica and she did not want to miss out. Also the giant was going to give mama sans 4000 pesos extra for bringing her friends. A very easy 8000 peso night with an opportunity to do a follow up night.
Now that the moment of truth is her and mama sans is talking in circles. I had to block her to show her I mean business. In actuality I needed her Because the giant and I did not want any of those SW working on the corners of Sosua. I had more expensive back up options but I dealt with mama sans before and she usually produces. But it has been about three years.
I don't know how mama sans was able to contact me once I blocked her contact. But she's telling me she's ready. OK send me a picture of all 10 girls right now. She went to telling me that she does not have 10 now she has five. You mean to tell me you went from 10 to 5. 15 minutes later she's telling me there's only two girls with her Because the others have left. The time was 1645.
OK this is my last time asking you show me right now the pictures of the girls you have with you. She gave me three photos and immediately one of the girls look too young. I am here to make sure the giant Don't have to worry about these problems. I gave her the photos she gave me back and asked for identification I'll be questionable one. She could not produce the identification. That was the last straw.
Meanwhile my Haitian girl is still here. She knows I'm here to help the giant not down 10 chicas. She started helping me a little telling me not to trust the photo of the questionable young girl. She watched as I argue back-and-forth with mama sans. She saw me calling of my back up plan who wanted to charge us $150 per chica. He wasn't answering his phone. Damn the giant is ready for those ally hoops I promised him.
I need to just send my girl home so I can think. She kept massaging my neck trying to make me relax. Baby what's the problem you need Chicas. I can call my friends. I looked at her she's from Puerto Plata. I never thought of asking her does she have any friends. No baby I would not like to organize your friends at the last minute. Tell me baby it's no problem. But my friend wants lesbians. Baby I have lesbian friends. OK show me some photos.
Upon that request The heavens begin to smile on me in the giant. OK all of those girls are doable. How soon can you get them here. Baby they can be here in 40 minutes but the cab it's 2500. Bullshit I got Uber. Some how my phone signal is trash in the area. No problem baby; I got it tell your girls to come through.
Sure enough they arrived 30 minutes later. The giant sits in the house and I bring the chicas to him. I love to see their reactions when they look up to him. Not everybody 7 foot tall. Anyway the girls get out the car and oh my my my. Those girl were looking like fresh meat.
Superwoman immediately told me that I could not have sex with her friends. She is very jealous and does not want to share me. It was cool with me because if I wanted a group of girls I would have ordered me a group of girls. This is all for the giant.
Until I saw one of her friends. Let's call her the greatest temptation. I heard the giant asking them all of their names and I overheard her saying 19 years old. My heart started beating fast. It took everything inside of me to make me not stare at her. Whole body was so perfect. Her innocent demeanor show that she can be trained. She had those deer in the headlight eyes and actually spoke a little English.
We took them to the pool and they started stripping. Now folks let me tell you the other elements. Remember the Haitian (let's call her free agent) that the giant had sex with in the pool. Well the giant told her if she doesn't mind him having fun with the other girls she can stay. I had to go over it with her again but she said she was cool with it. OK as long as she's cool with it. We also had the driver and his wife there.
OK my job is to set the giant up for ally hoops. We all took tequila shots. Mind you the giant brought tequila and filled the refrigerator with 24 large L Presidente. I pulled out 1000 pesos. Whoever take the most shot wins 1000 pesos. After the fourth shot all the girls decided to stop. I split the money between the four of them.
I pulled out another thousand pesos and placed it on the table. Who has the best Chupa? Why'all decide but only two girls can compete. You each have 45 seconds to give the giant a BJ. Who's ever the best wins 1000 pesos. All four girls wanted to compete.
The greatest temptation was the youngest. The head Dike of the group we call her Latifah. There was a young Dominican and Haitian that we called salt and pepper.
The greatest temptation have the body and the look. Pepper was sexy and sassy. Salt was the killer. You can tell by her demeanor though she wasn't the sexiest she was the most experience. I told the giant that Salt was a sleeping volcano. The giant had the greatest temptation in his lap. She's just script butt naked to her underwear. The giant was like Grown man would you look at that. The chauffeur came over and said that chica is beautiful.
OK giant I have to make a special request. I need you to save the greatest temptation for me. I want her for my birthday. My girl will not let me fuck her friends in front of her, so I will have to do it behind her back. However if you have sex with her now in an orgy; I would never want her again. The giant looked at me and said this type of chica is why guys pay 150 a night. No problem grown man I'll save her for you as a birthday gift. That's the least I could do for you. But how are you going to get with her with your girl cock blocking. Don't worry how I run this offense baby just be ready to slam dunk and screen my jealous ass girl.
OK Time for the BJ contest. I sent the giant upstairs then I told the girls I will be giving $25 gift to any girl the giant says was good. Then I started showing the girls the dresses, The hair, The shoes, the purses, the vibrators, the Nike bags, and a whole Lotta other shit a bought. Then I showed my iPhone 7. Told them I was going to give it to whoever the giant tells me to give it to.
Fuck now superwoman wants to get in on the action. OK mommy you can be with my friend and still be my friend but you won't be my special friend. Pepper said OK you give me him and you go with big guy. Superwoman did not like that suggestion. Pepper! I'm glad you said that now I don't care if superwoman makes a move. Pepper is sexy. She's about the size of salt but darker with a firm my ass. I give her a solid 8. I already discussed it with the giant no one wins the cell phone. Unless she's Sexing you and me for free.
Upstairs we go for the DJ contest. Latifah and salt were the participants. The greatest temptation volunteered but some reason I didn't pick her. My girl is eyeing me like a hawk but I'm being real cool about this. I have to break down her defense. At the same time I have to find a way to communicate with her that I'm saving her for me later.
Now this game is rigged. First of all when you say go grown man doesn't start the clock on time. He always starts to clock 10 seconds later. He and the giant had already Pre-decided the winner will be a tie.
55 Seconds and Latifah time was up. The giant gave her a 6. 5. Salt was up next. I had warned the giant about salt. Salt is about 5"3 125. Her and pepper are the smallest of the group. Salt is the only Dominican of the group. Really don't get it but I guess that's Puerta Plata. Solid went in the room and within 30 seconds had the giant streaming don't stop.
After The full 55 seconds the giant had made his first big dunk. Latifah ran in the room to get salt away from the giant. She knew she did not make the giant stream like that. The giant mean how was complaining why the hell did the time stop. Man I got to have her right now. Latifah was yelling no at the same time I was yelling go. I cleared the room and told the giant to get at it.
He stayed on the court for a good 30 minutes. When I went upstairs he said man you never lied. That girl is a champion. That's what's up big man you ready for another one. Hell yeah. Cool Salt please leave and wait for me in the hallway. Latifah it's your turn. Latifah ran in the room and out the corner of my eye I saw her jumping on the giant.
I took salt in my room and lead a whole bunch of gifts ranging from $10-$30 on the bed. Baby pick would you like. She picked a sexy dress. That's surprise me I almost knew she would have went for the pair of Jordans.
The giant wasn't on the court loan would Latifah. Latifah brings a lot of energy to the group of girls. She is the oldest and the most dominant. She makes it clear she likes girls. Superwoman had been telling me Latifah has been trying to get her for a long time. Even when they arrive in the taxi, Latifah got out the cab and immediately went to try to give superwoman and intimate hug. Superwoman immediately pushed her away like a woman who is cool but not cool with it.
I went and checked on the giant with Latifah. He said Latifah is full of energy but just doesn't do nothing for him. He said she tried but he just cannot find his attraction for. Reminded me of Queen Latifah in real life. She looks like she will make a good friend but nobody really wants to have sex with Latifah but another girl.
Since I was taking the girls upstairs to the giant while the other girls remain downstairs partying; I capitalize on my opening. I took the greatest temptation upstairs as if she was going to have sex with a giant. When she got upstairs I explain to her look you are special. I'm going to save you for me later. Do not tell your friends this is only between me you and the giant. She said OK and smiled.
The giant took a quick time out After Latifah. We're having a blast. We actually had the girls doing push-ups and sit ups in a group. We are taking shots, I'm rolling up joints, everybody is laughing and having a good time. That's when we started to notice the free agent walking around. She didn't know the other girls though they were all Haitians. Free agent seem to have an attitude because just an hour ago it was just her and the giant. Now she's sharing the giant with four other young girls in front of her face. I'm really thinking we are going to have Two end her contract.
The giant head everyone taking shots in celebration of my birthday weekend. Everybody but me. I wasn't there to get drunk and have an orgy. Yes is my birthday weekend but my job is to throw alleyoops to the giant. I'm cool because superwoman is a dime piece. Young with no children and her body is at the peak of its youth. I was cool because she was more than enough for me. I will just use the Activity of the giant for foreplay. I could have set up the very thing for myself if I wanted it. I actually enjoy throwing the giant assist so he can slam dunk.
Everybody's drinking and a few of us are smoking. The most of the girls are jumping half naked in the pool. The giant has salt and pepper on the edge of the pool. He begins to talk to me as salt is riding him. Dude you got to come and try these two. I continue smoking my joint looking from a distance telling him no my job is to throw you the ball. You already gave me the greatest temptation. You have at it with the rest of the girls. Cool can we turn off the lights because salt and pepper want to kiss each other.
Meanwhile I'm giving massages to all the girls while they're drinking and laughing. I did it all just to get my hands on the greatest temptation. She's taking tequila shots and is loose. She jumped in the pool naked and was swimming over to salt and pepper and the giant. The giant kept it G with me and told her she can't come over where he was. That's the kind of respect we had for each other.
Superwoman and Latifah jumped in the pool with the greatest temptation. It's night so we only had the moonlight for illumination. The girls were trying to get me into the pool. That's not going to happen. I don't think I ever been in a the pool in the DR. It's just like orgies not really on my bucket list.
The giant gets out the water and have salt and pepper glued to him. Come to find out salt and pepper are the closest of the two. Superwoman, Latifah, And the greatest temptation are from the same hood. They are still in the pool while the giant is telling me how well salt and pepper work together as a team.
All of a sudden I noticed something. Superwoman, Latifah, and the greatest temptation are cornered together in the pool! Superwoman does not want me to have sex with any of her friends but it looks like she's having sex with them in front of me. What the fuck and I am mediately start getting mad. As bad as I want it the greatest temptation; How dare she be intimate with her in front of me. Latifah get out the pool but superwoman and the greatest temptation stayed. It's cool that just justifies me hooking up with the greatest temptation later.
It's about 1 o'clock in the morning. The giant has had sex with the free agent, Salt twice, Latifah, and pepper. Earlier the giant made a request to have two lesbians. He wants a Dominican and Haitian. I told him that was going to be mission impossible Because normally Dominicans don't hang around Haitians. Lesbians are very particular about the women they kiss. I told the giant described admission from his head however look at him now. He has salt and pepper and they are trying their best to keep him happy.
OK it's time to go to sleep. The giant had already said he's taking salt and pepper upstairs in the bedroom with him. The free agent was upstairs in the Giants bedroom. The giant said she's just going to have to watch me and salt and pepper or she can leave. Cool Latifah you and the greatest temptation are going to have to sleep downstairs because we have no room. Latifah begins to act like she had an attitude.
She goes and talks to Superwoman who just got out the pool with the greatest temptation. Superwoman comes to me and asked can a girl sleep in our room. I was trying to be nice and I was being cool all night. I told her I did not want her girls in our bed because I'm trying to respect her. Superwoman said I want to make you happy. I promise you I won't be jealous.
That was hard for me to believe because I had to check her several times for interjecting every time she sees one of her girls next to me. I had to check her for disrespecting me. Superwoman is so sexy and I can be satisfied with just her for tonight; however her jealousy is her Achilles' heel.
Baby you no want my friends? She is trying my gangster with this question. As bad as I wanted to greatest temptation my hands are wise I don't know. Then she went downstairs and brought back Latifah and the greatest temptation in front of me. It's OK baby I want you to be happy. Cool no need for me to put on a faade any longer. I'll look at superwoman and smile OK baby. For my birthday.
It's ironic I didn't come here for an orgy. I came to feed the giant for his orgy. I am kind of pass orgies because I like to take my time with each chica. Besides I don't have the energy for superwoman, the greatest temptation, and Latifah's thick ass. I did not have the energy or mission the giant had physically and mentally prepared for. I had sex with superwoman prior to the girls getting here. She swallowed every little bit of energy out of me. That's why I was so relax around all the naked girls.
Off the rip I knew I did not want to have sex with Latifah. The giant already gave her a bad review. She was willing to please because she knew all the other girls had gifts. They were showing off to each other and she had nothing But 1000 pesos from the BJ contest and 500 pesos from the tequila shots. Once again I had to go off on superwoman because she asked me why Latifah did not have a gift. I had to give her her last warning. The next girl that gets in the business of my communication will be asked to leave.
Latifah ask can she give me a massage to relax. Finally someone says something I can use. Superwoman and the greatest temptation got in the shower together. Meanwhile Latifah goes to grabbing on my dick. No Gracias I only want a massage. She gave me a pretty decent well needed massage. I was finally able to give her a dress. I was happy because I only had one large. She was the only one in the house that could fit it.
Latifah went to take a shower. The greatest temptation and superwoman came to the bed and immediately started kissing on my nipples. They were licking me up and down. Each one had my balls in their mouth. It was kind of painful but stimulating. The greatest temptation was so wet.
Latifah came out the shower and got on the other side of the bed. She immediately started licking superwoman. All of this is happening on a full-size bed. Superwoman knew that I had a vibrator and asked to pull it out. You should have seen the girls reactions. Latifah went to work on superwoman. Meanwhile the greatest temptation was asking me for a condom. What do you need a condom for? It was Latifah that said you don't need a condom for chupa.
The greatest temptation begin to give me a world class BJ. I was fingering Latifah and doing my best not to come in the greatest temptation mouth.
Latifah thought it was so funny how I was squirming. She moved the greatest temptation out the way and gave me a better blow job than GT. WTF. I could only withstand about 30 seconds. I wanted to get up and knock on the Giants door. I know his hands was full with salt and pepper but Latifah is a killer head monster. Then my girl got jealous and push Latifah out the way. It's like she went down for two seconds and came back up with a mouth full of come. I don't know how she does it.
I had to excuse myself.
I came back to the bed and both Latifah and GT were working on superwoman. I just join in helping them out. We were all going back-and-forth taking turns with each other. I was able to get an erection by just looking at the greatest temptation ass in the air. I pulled out my condom then all of a sudden the greatest temptation Flopped on the bed exhausted. She had too much to drink. I was so disappointed and happy at the same time.
My superwoman had to take the greatest temptation in the shower. Meanwhile Latifah had the vibrator and started working on my erection. Oh did I let her have it this time. She swallowed it until my erection went limp in her mouth. We are laid in the bed exhausted and happy. Ironically GT and superwoman lay in the bed caressing each other. Latifah was next to me still using the vibrator.
The next morning superwoman and GT were still knocked out cold. My hand found its way to Latifah vagina and I begin to caress it. The way I was rubbing her clip she began to squirt a little. Superwoman and GT Were still sleeping but I wanted to wake them up so they can see the site. Latifah hopped off the bed got a high knees and begin to give me another BJ. She killed my early morning erection within two minutes.
Soon everybody what was up and moving. The giant gave everyone 4000 pesos. All the girls head the most expensive gift in my possession. Latifah saw the hair I was selling for 4000 pesos. I gave it to her for 2000 and she was the most happiest out of all the girls.
By 10 o'clock we had them all in a taxi headed home. Day 1 was out the way. The giant and I were satisfied with how things went down.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2566984]Arrived in the Sue on Thursday. I can tell by the amount of chicas on the bus the Sue was going to be packed. Everything seems a bit busier for a Thursday.
We got the word on Anhvee that night. They are only allowing their residence entry. A lot of girls triple up together to buy rooms hoping not having to sleep in there rooms.
The SW there are just too generic for me. Like my man said this place has a nostalgic with its location and accessibility of Chicas. However the overall chica quality is highly debatable. I am on the gone downhill team. With the overall asking price going up and the quality of chic is going down it Hass to be a really special reason for me to come here.
The new curfew hours of 3 PM to 5 AM on the south coast was the icing on the cake. Also adding the fact that I'm going to meet the 7 foot giant for the first time; the Sue is the place to be.
Hit some of the spots I like with my friends and seeing some old friends is what I like about the Sue. I turn my friends on to the barbershop, organic food restaurants, and best places to get rum punch.
The Chicas in front of Bailey's look like fancy slot machines with little cash out rewards. Gentlemen there definitely were some nice looking slot machines. They were all bright eyed and bushy tail and I'm not knock in their hustle. I'm just too seasoned or too spoiled to find them of much interest besides I candy.
Before we knew it night was upon us and The curfew was in effect. Before I go to Ahnvee I will take an L. I just set up superwoman for and early morning snack. I can redeem myself with her.
I told superwoman to be here on time at 10 o'clock in the morning. My room was at Europa and my check out was at 12. Figured I would knock superwoman off then check out And rendezvous with the Giant for our night fiesta.
The giant and I had it set up for 10 girls to be at our place for a pool party. Initially it was gogo the giant and myself; however Gogo saw the calm before the storm. That left me and the giant and 10 females. My job was not to have sex with 10 females. My job was to make sure every time the giant wanted to have sex I had a girl there waiting for him. You can call me Magic Johnson because I read the offense, break down defense and set up The big man for a slam dunk.
Though it was my birthday weekend celebration, the giant asked me for my assistance in making things happen for him. I couldn't say no. We had been talking and coordinating about this one day for the last Two weeks. The giant has started a diet and workout regiment in preparation for this event.
My me at 11 o'clock says she will be leaving Puerto Plata soon. No mommy you can cancel that. I told you at 10 o'clock now you're calling me an hour later. By the time you arrive it will be check out time. She's complaining she's already in the taxi. It's not my problem you were the one not on time. I will have to get with you later or not at all. She said OK and asked me to give her a time. I told her 4 o'clock. I figured by 4 o'clock the giant and I will have our room situated; I will Knock off my superwoman snack and send her on her way.
Meanwhile mama sans who is my contact forthe 10 girls is blowing up my phone. She has her chicas and she is ready. I told her at six or 7 o'clock but she's ready now. We had been hyping this party up and promising gift and prizes throughout the night. Plus we have free food and free drinks. The giant was paying 4000 pesos per girl and everyone is going to Have to put in work.
First unforeseen problem, the giant plane is late. The giant rent it a three bedroom mansion. I checked out my room so I was waiting for him. I thought he would have came and got me by 4 o'clock. He was supposed to pick up A Haitian girl and knock her off first. Then get ready for the party we're doing later on. Figured I will knock my Haitian girl off while he's doing his Haitian girl. Then send both of them on their way.
Superwoman and I are waiting at the treehouse across from the metro. It's about 5:30 PM and mama sans is blowing up my phone ready for the party. Man this shit is starting to go wrong real fast. I started to just go back to eat Roper and get me a room so I can knock off my Haitian treat in peace.
After talking to the giant on the phone he picks me up with three people already in the vehicle. There was no room for me more or less my girl. To top that off, they had a large cooler full of beer in the backseat. The giant who is 7 feet tall sitting in the front seat and insisting everyone can fit inside. I had a motor scooter so I just had my girl ride with them. Halfway to the house she had them stop the car because the ride was too uncomfortable.
We check into the house with everything being OK. It's a gated community so the area can be very quiet at times. The house came with a pool and a upstairs balcony. Both rooms upstairs had Air conditions. Very nice and homely.
I talk to the giant and his Haitian girl did not come through. He end up with another Haitian that was introduced to him by our assistant. Yes to giant paid to have a gofer with him the whole time he was there. A friend he's been knowing for a very long time.
OK we have our Haitian treats that we need to knock off quickly because we have 10 chicas ready for the party. The giant was ready because he hadn't smashed he's Haitian he knew for 30 minutes yet. My Haitian was ready because she was supposed to get it 10 o'clock this morning. I only give her 2500 and gift.
My Haitian treat I called her superwoman. She has the body of a goddess. She's 22 with no kids and sexy as hell. I've only had sex with her once before but we've been talking for a while. She's about 56 and 145 pounds. I salivated over her body for good four months before I could get a hold of her.
Mama sans is blowing up my phone. She wants to know where we live so she can bring her girls there. I told the giant we need to go ahead and knock our Haitians off. That was the first Gary Payton pass. The giant whipped out a condom and went to work. 15 minutes later I saw him killing her in the pool.
What the hell man you better save your energy you know we have a party. "I'm going to be ready I'm going to be ready," he replied. Meanwhile mama son is blowing up my phone. She has 10 Chicas and needs to know where to come.
OK mama sans give me a picture of your 10 girls that you have ready to come over. She send me some generic pictures of about seven chicas. No I need to see a picture of these 10 chicas that you have ready right now. Not some possibly three years ago photos. Mama son told me the photos she gave me were recent.
I don't care if they were early this morning pictures. It does not matter to me I need a right now photo before we have anyone come to our party. Then she started speaking in Spanish which really didn't matter to me. I pulled up her contact and blocked her. Either she can give me what I asked for or she can lose out on a payday.
Now the giant and I have been hyping mama San up for the last two weeks. We've been showing her pictures of gift and games we were going to be playing to keep everybody happy throughout the night. Mama sans said she can get 10 girls with no problems. The giant made a request that at least four of them be lesbians. (really the giant wanted all of them to be lesbians but I told him he was asking too much).
Mama sans was planning on putting in the work herself. The giant was paying 4000 per chica and she did not want to miss out. Also the giant was going to give mama sans 4000 pesos extra for bringing her friends. A very easy 8000 peso night with an opportunity to do a follow up night.
Now that the moment of truth is her and mama sans is talking in circles. I had to block her to show her I mean business. In actuality I needed her Because the giant and I did not want any of those SW working on the corners of Sosua. I had more expensive back up options but I dealt with mama sans before and she usually produces. But it has been about three years.
I don't know how mama sans was able to contact me once I blocked her contact. But she's telling me she's ready. OK send me a picture of all 10 girls right now. She went to telling me that she does not have 10 now she has five. You mean to tell me you went from 10 to 5. 15 minutes later she's telling me there's only two girls with her Because the others have left. The time was 1645.
OK this is my last time asking you show me right now the pictures of the girls you have with you. She gave me three photos and immediately one of the girls look too young. I am here to make sure the giant Don't have to worry about these problems. I gave her the photos she gave me back and asked for identification I'll be questionable one. She could not produce the identification. That was the last straw.
Meanwhile my Haitian girl is still here. She knows I'm here to help the giant not down 10 chicas. She started helping me a little telling me not to trust the photo of the questionable young girl. She watched as I argue back-and-forth with mama sans. She saw me calling of my back up plan who wanted to charge us $150 per chica. He wasn't answering his phone. Damn the giant is ready for those ally hoops I promised him.
I need to just send my girl home so I can think. She kept massaging my neck trying to make me relax. Baby what's the problem you need Chicas. I can call my friends. I looked at her she's from Puerto Plata. I never thought of asking her does she have any friends. No baby I would not like to organize your friends at the last minute. Tell me baby it's no problem. But my friend wants lesbians. Baby I have lesbian friends. OK show me some photos.
Upon that request The heavens begin to smile on me in the giant. OK all of those girls are doable. How soon can you get them here. Baby they can be here in 40 minutes but the cab it's 2500. Bullshit I got Uber. Some how my phone signal is trash in the area. No problem baby; I got it tell your girls to come through.
Sure enough they arrived 30 minutes later. The giant sits in the house and I bring the chicas to him. I love to see their reactions when they look up to him. Not everybody 7 foot tall. Anyway the girls get out the car and oh my my my. Those girl were looking like fresh meat.
Superwoman immediately told me that I could not have sex with her friends. She is very jealous and does not want to share me. It was cool with me because if I wanted a group of girls I would have ordered me a group of girls. This is all for the giant.
Until I saw one of her friends. Let's call her the greatest temptation. I heard the giant asking them all of their names and I overheard her saying 19 years old. My heart started beating fast. It took everything inside of me to make me not stare at her. Whole body was so perfect. Her innocent demeanor show that she can be trained. She had those deer in the headlight eyes and actually spoke a little English.
We took them to the pool and they started stripping. Now folks let me tell you the other elements. Remember the Haitian (let's call her free agent) that the giant had sex with in the pool. Well the giant told her if she doesn't mind him having fun with the other girls she can stay. I had to go over it with her again but she said she was cool with it. OK as long as she's cool with it. We also had the driver and his wife there.
OK my job is to set the giant up for ally hoops. We all took tequila shots. Mind you the giant brought tequila and filled the refrigerator with 24 large L Presidente. I pulled out 1000 pesos. Whoever take the most shot wins 1000 pesos. After the fourth shot all the girls decided to stop. I split the money between the four of them.
I pulled out another thousand pesos and placed it on the table. Who has the best Chupa? Why'all decide but only two girls can compete. You each have 45 seconds to give the giant a BJ. Who's ever the best wins 1000 pesos. All four girls wanted to compete.
The greatest temptation was the youngest. The head Dike of the group we call her Latifah. There was a young Dominican and Haitian that we called salt and pepper.
The greatest temptation have the body and the look. Pepper was sexy and sassy. Salt was the killer. You can tell by her demeanor though she wasn't the sexiest she was the most experience. I told the giant that Salt was a sleeping volcano. The giant had the greatest temptation in his lap. She's just script butt naked to her underwear. The giant was like Grown man would you look at that. The chauffeur came over and said that chica is beautiful.
OK giant I have to make a special request. I need you to save the greatest temptation for me. I want her for my birthday. My girl will not let me fuck her friends in front of her, so I will have to do it behind her back. However if you have sex with her now in an orgy; I would never want her again. The giant looked at me and said this type of chica is why guys pay 150 a night. No problem grown man I'll save her for you as a birthday gift. That's the least I could do for you. But how are you going to get with her with your girl cock blocking. Don't worry how I run this offense baby just be ready to slam dunk and screen my jealous ass girl.
OK Time for the BJ contest. I sent the giant upstairs then I told the girls I will be giving $25 gift to any girl the giant says was good. Then I started showing the girls the dresses, The hair, The shoes, the purses, the vibrators, the Nike bags, and a whole Lotta other shit a bought. Then I showed my iPhone 7. Told them I was going to give it to whoever the giant tells me to give it to.
Fuck now superwoman wants to get in on the action. OK mommy you can be with my friend and still be my friend but you won't be my special friend. Pepper said OK you give me him and you go with big guy. Superwoman did not like that suggestion. Pepper! I'm glad you said that now I don't care if superwoman makes a move. Pepper is sexy. She's about the size of salt but darker with a firm my ass. I give her a solid 8. I already discussed it with the giant no one wins the cell phone. Unless she's Sexing you and me for free.
Upstairs we go for the DJ contest. Latifah and salt were the participants. The greatest temptation volunteered but some reason I didn't pick her. My girl is eyeing me like a hawk but I'm being real cool about this. I have to break down her defense. At the same time I have to find a way to communicate with her that I'm saving her for me later.
Now this game is rigged. First of all when you say go grown man doesn't start the clock on time. He always starts to clock 10 seconds later. He and the giant had already Pre-decided the winner will be a tie.
55 Seconds and Latifah time was up. The giant gave her a 6. 5. Salt was up next. I had warned the giant about salt. Salt is about 5"3 125. Her and pepper are the smallest of the group. Salt is the only Dominican of the group. Really don't get it but I guess that's Puerta Plata. Solid went in the room and within 30 seconds had the giant streaming don't stop.
After The full 55 seconds the giant had made his first big dunk. Latifah ran in the room to get salt away from the giant. She knew she did not make the giant stream like that. The giant mean how was complaining why the hell did the time stop. Man I got to have her right now. Latifah was yelling no at the same time I was yelling go. I cleared the room and told the giant to get at it.
He stayed on the court for a good 30 minutes. When I went upstairs he said man you never lied. That girl is a champion. That's what's up big man you ready for another one. Hell yeah. Cool Salt please leave and wait for me in the hallway. Latifah it's your turn. Latifah ran in the room and out the corner of my eye I saw her jumping on the giant.
I took salt in my room and lead a whole bunch of gifts ranging from $10-$30 on the bed. Baby pick would you like. She picked a sexy dress. That's surprise me I almost knew she would have went for the pair of Jordans.
The giant wasn't on the court loan would Latifah. Latifah brings a lot of energy to the group of girls. She is the oldest and the most dominant. She makes it clear she likes girls. Superwoman had been telling me Latifah has been trying to get her for a long time. Even when they arrive in the taxi, Latifah got out the cab and immediately went to try to give superwoman and intimate hug. Superwoman immediately pushed her away like a woman who is cool but not cool with it.
I went and checked on the giant with Latifah. He said Latifah is full of energy but just doesn't do nothing for him. He said she tried but he just cannot find his attraction for. Reminded me of Queen Latifah in real life. She looks like she will make a good friend but nobody really wants to have sex with Latifah but another girl.
Since I was taking the girls upstairs to the giant while the other girls remain downstairs partying; I capitalize on my opening. I took the greatest temptation upstairs as if she was going to have sex with a giant. When she got upstairs I explain to her look you are special. I'm going to save you for me later. Do not tell your friends this is only between me you and the giant. She said OK and smiled.
The giant took a quick time out After Latifah. We're having a blast. We actually had the girls doing push-ups and sit ups in a group. We are taking shots, I'm rolling up joints, everybody is laughing and having a good time. That's when we started to notice the free agent walking around. She didn't know the other girls though they were all Haitians. Free agent seem to have an attitude because just an hour ago it was just her and the giant. Now she's sharing the giant with four other young girls in front of her face. I'm really thinking we are going to have Two end her contract.
The giant head everyone taking shots in celebration of my birthday weekend. Everybody but me. I wasn't there to get drunk and have an orgy. Yes is my birthday weekend but my job is to throw alleyoops to the giant. I'm cool because superwoman is a dime piece. Young with no children and her body is at the peak of its youth. I was cool because she was more than enough for me. I will just use the Activity of the giant for foreplay. I could have set up the very thing for myself if I wanted it. I actually enjoy throwing the giant assist so he can slam dunk.
Everybody's drinking and a few of us are smoking. The most of the girls are jumping half naked in the pool. The giant has salt and pepper on the edge of the pool. He begins to talk to me as salt is riding him. Dude you got to come and try these two. I continue smoking my joint looking from a distance telling him no my job is to throw you the ball. You already gave me the greatest temptation. You have at it with the rest of the girls. Cool can we turn off the lights because salt and pepper want to kiss each other.
Meanwhile I'm giving massages to all the girls while they're drinking and laughing. I did it all just to get my hands on the greatest temptation. She's taking tequila shots and is loose. She jumped in the pool naked and was swimming over to salt and pepper and the giant. The giant kept it G with me and told her she can't come over where he was. That's the kind of respect we had for each other.
Superwoman and Latifah jumped in the pool with the greatest temptation. It's night so we only had the moonlight for illumination. The girls were trying to get me into the pool. That's not going to happen. I don't think I ever been in a the pool in the DR. It's just like orgies not really on my bucket list.
The giant gets out the water and have salt and pepper glued to him. Come to find out salt and pepper are the closest of the two. Superwoman, Latifah, And the greatest temptation are from the same hood. They are still in the pool while the giant is telling me how well salt and pepper work together as a team.
All of a sudden I noticed something. Superwoman, Latifah, and the greatest temptation are cornered together in the pool! Superwoman does not want me to have sex with any of her friends but it looks like she's having sex with them in front of me. What the fuck and I am mediately start getting mad. As bad as I want it the greatest temptation; How dare she be intimate with her in front of me. Latifah get out the pool but superwoman and the greatest temptation stayed. It's cool that just justifies me hooking up with the greatest temptation later.
It's about 1 o'clock in the morning. The giant has had sex with the free agent, Salt twice, Latifah, and pepper. Earlier the giant made a request to have two lesbians. He wants a Dominican and Haitian. I told him that was going to be mission impossible Because normally Dominicans don't hang around Haitians. Lesbians are very particular about the women they kiss. I told the giant described admission from his head however look at him now. He has salt and pepper and they are trying their best to keep him happy.
OK it's time to go to sleep. The giant had already said he's taking salt and pepper upstairs in the bedroom with him. The free agent was upstairs in the Giants bedroom. The giant said she's just going to have to watch me and salt and pepper or she can leave. Cool Latifah you and the greatest temptation are going to have to sleep downstairs because we have no room. Latifah begins to act like she had an attitude.
She goes and talks to Superwoman who just got out the pool with the greatest temptation. Superwoman comes to me and asked can a girl sleep in our room. I was trying to be nice and I was being cool all night. I told her I did not want her girls in our bed because I'm trying to respect her. Superwoman said I want to make you happy. I promise you I won't be jealous.
That was hard for me to believe because I had to check her several times for interjecting every time she sees one of her girls next to me. I had to check her for disrespecting me. Superwoman is so sexy and I can be satisfied with just her for tonight; however her jealousy is her Achilles' heel.
Baby you no want my friends? She is trying my gangster with this question. As bad as I wanted to greatest temptation my hands are wise I don't know. Then she went downstairs and brought back Latifah and the greatest temptation in front of me. It's OK baby I want you to be happy. Cool no need for me to put on a faade any longer. I'll look at superwoman and smile OK baby. For my birthday.
It's ironic I didn't come here for an orgy. I came to feed the giant for his orgy. I am kind of pass orgies because I like to take my time with each chica. Besides I don't have the energy for superwoman, the greatest temptation, and Latifah's thick ass. I did not have the energy or mission the giant had physically and mentally prepared for. I had sex with superwoman prior to the girls getting here. She swallowed every little bit of energy out of me. That's why I was so relax around all the naked girls.
Off the rip I knew I did not want to have sex with Latifah. The giant already gave her a bad review. She was willing to please because she knew all the other girls had gifts. They were showing off to each other and she had nothing But 1000 pesos from the BJ contest and 500 pesos from the tequila shots. Once again I had to go off on superwoman because she asked me why Latifah did not have a gift. I had to give her her last warning. The next girl that gets in the business of my communication will be asked to leave.
Latifah ask can she give me a massage to relax. Finally someone says something I can use. Superwoman and the greatest temptation got in the shower together. Meanwhile Latifah goes to grabbing on my dick. No Gracias I only want a massage. She gave me a pretty decent well needed massage. I was finally able to give her a dress. I was happy because I only had one large. She was the only one in the house that could fit it.
Latifah went to take a shower. The greatest temptation and superwoman came to the bed and immediately started kissing on my nipples. They were licking me up and down. Each one had my balls in their mouth. It was kind of painful but stimulating. The greatest temptation was so wet.
Latifah came out the shower and got on the other side of the bed. She immediately started licking superwoman. All of this is happening on a full-size bed. Superwoman knew that I had a vibrator and asked to pull it out. You should have seen the girls reactions. Latifah went to work on superwoman. Meanwhile the greatest temptation was asking me for a condom. What do you need a condom for? It was Latifah that said you don't need a condom for chupa.
The greatest temptation begin to give me a world class BJ. I was fingering Latifah and doing my best not to come in the greatest temptation mouth.
Latifah thought it was so funny how I was squirming. She moved the greatest temptation out the way and gave me a better blow job than GT. WTF. I could only withstand about 30 seconds. I wanted to get up and knock on the Giants door. I know his hands was full with salt and pepper but Latifah is a killer head monster. Then my girl got jealous and push Latifah out the way. It's like she went down for two seconds and came back up with a mouth full of come. I don't know how she does it.
I had to excuse myself.
I came back to the bed and both Latifah and GT were working on superwoman. I just join in helping them out. We were all going back-and-forth taking turns with each other. I was able to get an erection by just looking at the greatest temptation ass in the air. I pulled out my condom then all of a sudden the greatest temptation Flopped on the bed exhausted. She had too much to drink. I was so disappointed and happy at the same time.
My superwoman had to take the greatest temptation in the shower. Meanwhile Latifah had the vibrator and started working on my erection. Oh did I let her have it this time. She swallowed it until my erection went limp in her mouth. We are laid in the bed exhausted and happy. Ironically GT and superwoman lay in the bed caressing each other. Latifah was next to me still using the vibrator.
The next morning superwoman and GT were still knocked out cold. My hand found its way to Latifah vagina and I begin to caress it. The way I was rubbing her clip she began to squirt a little. Superwoman and GT Were still sleeping but I wanted to wake them up so they can see the site. Latifah hopped off the bed got a high knees and begin to give me another BJ. She killed my early morning erection within two minutes.
Soon everybody what was up and moving. The giant gave everyone 4000 pesos. All the girls head the most expensive gift in my possession. Latifah saw the hair I was selling for 4000 pesos. I gave it to her for 2000 and she was the most happiest out of all the girls.
By 10 o'clock we had them all in a taxi headed home. Day 1 was out the way. The giant and I were satisfied with how things went down.[/QUOTE]Great report. Were the girls pros or semi pros?
We had a party like this with a friend but after each girl got fucked they all wanted to get back on the street to make money from other dudes. What is the best way to come up with the price for each girls? Do you pay double their normal price assuming it may take them 6 to 12 hours to make the same amount.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2567064]Great report.[/QUOTE]Come on man. You actually quoted the entire report?!
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2567064]Great report. Were the girls pros or semi pros?
We had a party like this with a friend but after each girl got fucked they all wanted to get back on the street to make money from other dudes. What is the best way to come up with the price for each girls? Do you pay double their normal price assuming it may take them 6 to 12 hours to make the same amount.[/QUOTE]Man that is a good question. There's a big difference between chicas that's willing to go to Sosua for work and chicas that work in Sosua. For an example, superwoman and Latifah are from Puerto Plata. They are cool with coming to the Sue but they only came because we invited them. They sat down at our table and chilled out watching the other girls look for work.
It was Saturday however if they were not invited they would have stayed home in Puerto Plata. The same thing applies with their friends for the party on Friday night. All the girls were from Puerto Plata and came directly to our place for us in a taxi. They were not interested in walking the streets looking for Tom Dick or Hank.
Chicas that work in the Sue have a different mentality. They don't want to sit down and chill unless we are talking money. They are there to slang Puunani to anyone that's willing to pay and agreed price. They're not interested in having fun. Most of their sessions start with them licking the palm of the hand and then licking their Twatt for lubrication. They have very high mileage and usually lack luster performances. They are always in a rush because time is money. Lazy feet don't eat, so they have no time for Smalltalk.
The giant wanted to have sex in the water. He was spoiled Because he hadn't dealt with a SW in a long time. His crazy ass actually thought he could convince one of those girls to get in the water with him and mess up their hair.
I had to explain to him these girls are not here to swim and they're definitely not getting in the water to have sex on public beach. He called a girl over and after sitting down for three minutes she realize her feet are getting lazy. She didn't want to chill with the giant she wanted to know how much you willing to pay her to go to your room right now. As she walked away I pointed out to the Giant, do you see superwoman and Latifah. They are not here to walk the streets that's why we can have fun with them. Had superwoman been a street walker; she would've had no problems getting a guy to pay her 4 to 5000 pesos St or $150 all night easily.
In my opinion, if you are working Tinder, Dominican Cupid, Facebook, or any other social media app to meet chicas. Put from the surrounding cities. Inviting a woman to meet you is much more rewarding than meeting a SW there. Don't make the mistake of inviting any woman to the Sue. You can actually disrespect some women by inviting them to a place infamous for prostitution. However, many chicas will meet you there if they have a special invite. They will give you a much better time than The other fancy looking slot machines and the payout is much more rewarding.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2567064] What is the best way to come up with the price for each girls? Do you pay double their normal price assuming it may take them 6 to 12 hours to make the same amount.[/QUOTE]First find the current market value of the product. Right now chicas are successively changing the beginning asking price to 3000 pesos st. Many will not negotiate lower. I had one girl told me that 3000 pesos was not a lot of money. I asked her who else does she knows in this country that gets paid 3000 pesos for 20 to 30 minutes of work?
If it's only a little money how much money does she have right now? I had another woman say could I pay her friend more money because she really needs it. I told her we are Americans that live here or come allot have a saying when a Chica asks for more than 2500 pesos st. Find a new gringo or don't eat.
The giant was willing to paid 4000 and night per chica. He was willing to pay 5500. I negotiated that down to 4000 tln. Actually I never pay over 3000 pesos. Because the giant has set the bar, I had to give superwoman 4000 pesos. I normally give her 2500ST.
The giant wanted salt and pepper to come back the next day for 3000 pesos each. I told him in our minds we're just coming off 1000 pesos no biggy; but in their minds we just shortchange them $20 and that's not motivation. The chicas promised they would be back the next day but guess what? They haven't been calling. Had that been your typical Sosua chicas; they would have been blowing our phones up. Early the next day.
So basically when you are with Sosua chicas and they want you to pay for their time; that's your cue to ask what type of performance they plan on giving you. (CIM, CJB sin condom) If they could convince you to pay double or triple The amount based on time you are losing. Quite often performance Is not discussed because we assume the service is good.
You get her in your room and you will see a big difference in attitude. I tell Chicas I don't pay for time. I may only have you for five minutes. I pay per performance. I have a base price but I will share more money or give a nice inexpensive gift for a good performance.
I assume all my chicas are going to be good in the bedroom. Culturally we as Americans expect good or better service when we are paying more. That's not a reality in this culture playing P4 P. Getting good performances it's a matter of skill and luck. Luck is the only thing that runs out.
Most SW's here have the same philosophy and practicality. We haven't heard the word clockwatcher in a while. I haven't seen any reports of chicas pulling out a stopwatch for a st. She does not plan on Sexting you for an hour. After that first pop; she is out the door looking for the next man. No matter what deal she makes; she hopes you don't take long. If you take too long she will rush you or make an excuse to leave. She expects all her money whether you finish or not.
Watching these SW it's like sitting at the bar watching a UFC fight that you've seen many times before and you know who's going to win. It's a little entertaining because you're at a bar with beer but it's not exciting. Things don't get exciting until you see a fight that you haven't seen before or watching your favorite fighter 10 greatest wins.
Watching WRX 2005 and those other ex-pats is is interesting. Their movements are so calm and relax. Chicas are not there motivation for how they move living there. During their group socialization they would rather play spades or have a beer then be on the chase for chicas. You're rarely see anyone in the group with a woman. IMO to them going to the Ahnvee looking for a chica it's like going to the flea market to buy an anniversary gift.
Great reporting brother. Man, I wanted to be there balling out with you guys but I got tired of hoping around the island to dodge the curfew rules. Plus Colombia just opened up so Cartagena and Medellin came into play. I also had to do some checkups with the VA. They just extended the existing curfew from June 9-16 today in the Dominican Republic.
For the adventurous types I'm going to give you some spots off the beaten path as my contribution to the board. Ecuador, Montanita is a party beach town that has bars and great seafood at a cheap price. Not much P4P but you can make a friend to hangout with you and she can be your tour guide. Fly into Guayaquil and it's a 2 hour bus ride. Don't sleep on Guayaquil either.
In the Dominican Republic try Caleta beach in La Romana. It's a local beach with shops, restaurants and bars. Accommodations are cheap. Most talk Bayahibe in La Romana but nobody talks Caleta.
Great report hermano!! For those you don't know your boy Coolie was the giant LOL. And Grownman was Magic throwing me assist after assist and what a MARVELOUS night it turned out to be.
Also let this be a lesson to you gents when you come down here. Don't get upset when plans change abruptly. Just go with the flow. When mamasan who we had been coordinating for atleast 3 weeks with the 10 girl fiesta didn't come thru, we didn't panic or get frustrated, we just held on to our cool and waited to see what the universe provided. And it came thru big time. And it happend all because grownmans superwoman came late to see him that morning when she was supposed to have seen him before he checked out his hotel room. If she was actually on time for him, I wouldn't be lying in bed with Salt and Pepa and he wouldn't have had his 4 some at 4 am LOL. God I love this country.
After 10 years or so, I finally blew my cover to meet up in Sosua, with old forum pal Coolie High (High is right!, LOL).
Another nice surprise, he brought along GrownMan.
Great guys to hang with, and I'm only sorry that MrGoGo wasn't here.
Maybe next time GoGo!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2567808]After 10 years or so, I finally blew my cover to meet up in Sosua, with old forum pal Coolie High (High is right!, LOL).
Another nice surprise, he brought along GrownMan.
Great guys to hang with, and I'm only sorry that MrGoGo wasn't here.
Maybe next time GoGo![/QUOTE]Oakie my brother I'm putting you on my wish list to meet along with walking the China wall and fucking a gypsy LOL. Thanks for taking care of my boys. See you when I'm back on the North coast.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2567808]After 10 years or so, I finally blew my cover to meet up in Sosua, with old forum pal Coolie High (High is right!, LOL).
Another nice surprise, he brought along GrownMan.
Great guys to hang with, and I'm only sorry that MrGoGo wasn't here.
Maybe next time GoGo![/QUOTE]It was an honor and a pleasure meeting you Oakie. Can't wait to write up that 3 some blessing that you bestowed upon me. Grownman1 can attest to it back at villa it was a got damn porno scene by my pool. Hell I wouldve made Caligula blush LOL.
MUCH thanks bro.
Thinking about making a weekend trip to the DR. I'm stuck in deciding Boca Chica, Santo Domingo and Sosua. I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel by a beach that has a bar frequented by chicas. I'm not a demanding person. Just need a safe hotel that is girl friendly and don't have to go far to pick up. Thanks in advance.
Saturday after we woke up we hit the beach. The giant becomes an instant celebrity wherever he goes. People make jokes and he is used to it. Everybody loves this big man. He's tall and he's humble. Sometimes too humble.
We hit the beach To turn him on to the rum punch. We kicked it with big the who was celebrating his birthday. We were waiting on superwoman to bring another friend the giant chose from a photo. When they arrived she was with Latifah. WTF Latifah look different in the photo. The giant did not want to repeat with her. Man, they came all the way from Puerto Plata. We decided we will give Latifah 500 pesos to take her ass home.
Let me tell you something about superwoman. There were a lot of sexy women on the beach. Superwoman had to be in the top 5 out there. If I didn't know her and she walked past me it would have been game over. She is all naturally sexy. Her body is a solid 9 and she doesn't work out. She's not a performer but she has low mileage and no children.
We left the beach because the giant was trying to find someone to knock off in the water; and went to the treehouse. It was good to see my man WXR 2005. I always get some wisdom dropped on me when that brother is around. The treehouse is the ex pat hang out. It's a real chill environment. The service sucks. But the food is decent.
We get back to the place and I knock off superwoman again. While she goes to take a shower Latifah comes in immediately pulled out my Johnson. Just the idea of tickling her tonsils gave me an erection. It was nice and strong but I didn't last long. Superwoman walked in and gave her Latifah instructions on how I like it. I gave superwoman 3500 pesos.
Later on that night Mama sans tried to redeem herself. She came over with two chicas. One was a slight overweight the other a solid eight. Mama sans herself is an overall solid eight.
The giant knew he had to have Mama sans however, he pulled the short straw and also took the thick one. We agreed 2000 pesos a piece and A possible tip. I was glad the giant let me negotiate our prices. He's always thinking big.
My Choice gave me a solid 8 performance. The giant on the other hand did not fare so well. Mama sans and the other girl were good actors. It was a far different experience from having Salt and pepper on your team. All that acting made the giant go limp.
I came out and try to correct the problem. The giant did like mama sans body. But the big girl half kissing was throwing him off. Especially after seeing salt and pepper intimately kissing and tonguing each other with him.
They all got dress and we're going to call it a night; but I told mama sans to go back in there for 1 on 1 action. It was too late the giant could not find his mojo. We paid them 2500 apiece except my choice got 3000 and a gift.
The giant mojo was off. He's been spoiled with fun chicas. Now he's with two paid actors. We had to call the free Agent The next morning To save the game. The free Agent has become a lot more relax since the night of the orgy. I even gave her a bag massage.
I made her feel good telling her the two chicas that just left could not satisfy the giant. We need her Haitian coco. Five minutes in the room and it sounded like the giant has his mojo back. Honestly I think he was hitting it raw.
So we know chicas are in a network. The free agent was asked to bring a friend for me. The photo was pretty nice and she wasn't a Street chica. She and I communicated VA WhatsApp for about an hour and a half. Because it was about 1 o'clock in the morning I never thought about a video. I had her photos.
On her photo she's a seven. In person it drops to a three. Her body was actually 7. Ok, I'm about to show the giant I can take one for the team. OK big dog I will take your girl's amiga but you better not tell nobody. I just need to roll a joint. But I'm kinda second thinking. When I look into her eyes Something is not sitting right.
The giant was about to get started with the free agent when her friend asked her could she use the bathroom. She took her friend to the restroom and two minutes later she came grab her purse and pulled out a tampon In front of us. Her have blood. Is what her friend said in broken English.
Hell to the naw naw aw. That's all I needed to hear and see. The gods have spoken. I don't need any more signs to know to turn around. The giant was trying to reason with me. This was his first attempt to give me an Ally hoop. He argue with his free agent earlier that wasn't the girl from the photo. Once again it was a look good in the photo mistake.
The giant trying to redeem himself telling me I should at least get some head. Fuck that You do it! Just give her a little try to see if she's good. I have a better idea, why don't you give her a little try to see if she's good dude- I am good. The gods have spoken. There's no way in the hell I will go against my guts. He even offered to pay it for me. Like that would change my mind.
We went two the beach after dropping off the free agents amiga at the bus stop. The giant brought the free agent with him to The beach now he has someone he could have sex with in the water and that he did.
Further in the afternoon, I set the giant up with the wonder Twins. A sister duo that I have in my arsenal. One of the sisters and her friend came to give him a DR Happy Hour. Meaning they're just taking turns with the Giant. They tried to do their job but I think the giant had too much energy for them.
Later on that night the giant got a 45-year-old cougar. She was Haitian 5'3 185. Even though she didn't have a six pack she had fat an ass for Her waist. I she has one of those bodies that either you going to like it or hate it. Lucky for her the giant loved it. This cougar was a performer. She had enough ass for even the giant. She end up staying the night. There agreement was 2000 she walked away with 4000 and a gift.
Here I am in Sosua, my birthday is tomorrow, I haven't had sex today, and I don't have anyone to bring in my birthday with. Oh well at least I have Mary Jane. The giant was feeling so bad. He owed me from that stupid Aliou he tried to give me earlier. Plus he wanted to Buy a chica me for my birthday.
I was hoping to hear back from superwoman or the greatest temptation. We have been talking but we hadn't really been Reconfirming anything. I wanted the greatest temptation by herself but she wanted to bring a friend. She gave me her photo and I started salivating. I said to myself, I am going to work these girls for their friends. The picture she gave me was equal to the greatest temptation in rawness.
Our problem was the price. She only wanted a short time and so did I. I told her off the rip I only had 4500. I can give her 2500 and her amiga 2000 or can give one girl 3000 pesos. GT was spoiled from the previous night. Because she got 4000 and won about 1300 and picked up a pair of Jordans; she thought we had money to throw away. She was thinking she could invite her friend and they both can make 4000 a piece. She was telling me her friend needed The money.
This was the night of my birthday. I have the money no problem but I'm so Dominican market conscience. I know 2000 pesos was more than enough. The giant and I had raised the bar so high with 4000, prizes and gifts per chica; it's coming back to haunt me. We kept going back-and-forth. I felt like I was Kevin Samuels. She was telling me 3000 pesos was a little bit of money. I asked her how much does her baby daddy gives her? I'm not paying two girls 8000 pesos for a short time. Not even on my birthday. To me that's like paying for two main courses and eating half of both.
I was trying to tell the greatest temptation just to send her girlfriend and I can pay her 3000 and you can come tomorrow. Do you see what's happening guys. Since the bar has been set; somehow 3000 pesos ain't enough. Most of the chicas Here start the bidding off at 3000 and will not go lower unless we had history. Even Happy Hour from Boca chica. I wanted her to have sex with the giant. She's always hungry for business however she said 3000.
The greatest temptation and I were at a stalemate. So much time gone back-and-forth with how much we end up deciding The time is too late. Really it was because I would have had to pay for the taxi. I had a few Sosua possibles texting my phone but I just didn't want anything from the Streetz of the Sue. A few of them would accept 2000 pesos but it's really not about the money. The giant 45-year-old Haitian offered me her daughter but I don't want any chicas or just a chica. I needed something special or nothing at all. I settled with Mary Jane and brought in my birthday with her.
Following afternoon I finally get with the greatest temptation. 19 years old dark skin 135 pounds and she's was built like Flo Jo. I was thinking this might be a long term contract with her, however we did a lot of negotiating. Had I not seen her in person I would have dismiss our communications. But I have met her. I've seen her body. She gave me a BJ, and I've been waiting for her. The giant tease me. GM you you like low mileage on your cars. Yup as long as they are legal to ride on the streets.
GT and I agreed upon 3000 pesos. At least that's what I thought. Later it was revealed that I did a typo and it was 3900. No wonder she said see so quick. She knew this was not tln. Then she ask for taxi money. What the hell is wrong with the bus? Once again we went back-and-forth.
I finally got her to me. Went upstairs took a shower and I instantly got hungry. I guess she will do. She resisted but five minutes later she was coming all over my chin. Yeah it's not every day I get a chance to really pull out the skills.
We get done and I give her 3000 pesos the 500 for the taxi. She show me my typo. 3900 pesos. I couldn't even argue my mistake. I gave her 1100 pesos. Now I can officially say I spent $100 on a chica. Maybe I will live to see another Haleys comet; I'm crossing my fingers but I'm not holding my breath. I'm kind of cheating because the giant threw in 2500 pesos for my birthday.
The next morning I called Up one of the wonder twins. His two sisters that I've done in the past just haven't been able to get back to them. One came the other night with her friend for a threesome with the giant. She was my favorite. But after watching the Giants slam dunk that ball I didn't want it on my court.
Had to settle with the lease experience one. It was an early in the morning quickie.
I was kind of wishing the young sister would've came with her friends that way I could've switch and gave her to the giant. The younger one came, stripped and it looked like she hadn't shaved in months. I reminded her the last time her performance was Soso. It was good but she wouldn't let me get it.
She said something about she was close to her cycle that week. OK we're going to see. As I position her on the edge of the bed; I noticed her putting a towel under her. Some real slow grinding and Wham! Well I'll be damn she's a squirter. She has developed her game. Dammit I just changed my sheets this morning from GT last night. Solid 8 1/2.
Later that afternoon we met up with Obi-Wan Kenobi. We had disagreements in the past but I don't hold grudges and neither does he. An older gentleman that knows his limitations and expectations. He immediately suggested two of his acquaintances. Venezuelan and Haitian duo. Let's called them electro woman and Dina girl. They were professional fun girls. They did it all.
I was never really into bar girls. They are like customer community pussy. But man, Obi-Wan Kenobi was right about them being loose. They go back to our place and immediately stripped and started kissing. They love each other and that was right up the Giant's alley. The pool became an instant porn scene. While the Giant was killing them both in the pool; I was passing them lit up joints to keep the mood going.
I got bored of watching live porn and called back super woman. I love the fact that she was sitting home doing nothing But waiting to see if I will call. She stayed until the morning. 3500 exit fee.
What mindblowing reports Grown Man! Kudos for making it work and thank you for writing this.
[QUOTE=Ju1990;2568000]Thinking about making a weekend trip to the DR. I'm stuck in deciding Boca Chica, Santo Domingo and Sosua. I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel by a beach that has a bar frequented by chicas. I'm not a demanding person. Just need a safe hotel that is girl friendly and don't have to go far to pick up. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you've been paying attention but there's a Special curfew for the Santo Domingo and Boca Chica area. Due to the corona virus problem in that area all businesses close down at 6:00 PM. All bars in areas that serve alcohol mostly are closed down at 3:00 PM.
If you thinking of a weekend vacation go up north to the Sue. Their curfew starts at 10. The bars are still closed early but there are more chicas there and it's much less complicated for someone new to the scene.
I've never had a traditional 3 some in DR as we consider in the states, where the two girl are kissing and going at it and you as a man jump in like hopscotch. So far I've only had 3 somes where I would have sex with one then switch with the other but the girl don't touch each other. And worse yet youll get females that pretends to like each other. * They won't even kiss each other on the lips and when they eat each other out they give fake licks and moans as if I can't tell theyre just acting all for the money.
But no more. I reached out to the man I know who could take me to the promised land Obi Wan Oakie.
Oakie: Yeah bro come to my favorite spot I got two true bi females waiting for you.
Coolie: Ooh hell yeah. Me and grownman will be there.
And just like that it was time to meet up with one of the chairman of the board. We get to the spot and just like that it was myself, Grownman and Oakie chillen.
Oakie: Yeah you're going to love these two. They will fulfill all your needs. BTW beers are on me.
Coolie: Much thanks hermano.
Then enters Ms Vinny (Venezuela) and* Ms. Sexual Chocolate. They were 27 and 37 respectively so they were season to the game. And they were on me from the beginning.
Vinny: Do you have a big Dick.
Coolie: Well I for damn sure aint tiny tim.
Sexual Chocolate proceeds to pullout my dick in the bar while no one was watching.
SC: Ooh Nice.
Meanwhile I'm pulling up Ms. Vinny shirt sucking on her tities. They are both giving me that hungry eyes look as of theyre about to rape me. I'm so glad I ate my wheaties and worked out religiously before coming down. These two will give a man a heart attack if you're not careful.
Finished up having lunch with Oakie and it was time to go back to the villa for my afternoon desert. As we were leaving I notice some of the expats at the bar giving me the snickering look like servant did to Eddie Murphy on when he was about to smash Lady Eloise off Boomerang.
At the 28 second mark.
[URL]https://youtu.be/UD_gJShgozE[/URL]
Coolie: Is it me or do I feel like some of these expats are giving me that snickerin look.
Grownman1: Yeah its probably because they all at one time or another had there balls in each of the girls mouth. Its just your turn now.
Ooh well. No turning back now. We get into the truck and its me and the two girls in back with me while Grownman1 and my guide Junior who I known for over 14 yrs now was in the front. The girls started to passionately kiss each other. Ms. Vinny then unzips my pants and starts to give me head. Sexual Chocolate wanted a taste so then she took ol mighty joe young and put it in her mouth. They kept going back and forth all while heading back to the villa. God I love this country.
Finally we arrive and I'm anxious and excited like a fat kid about to eat whole strawberry cheesecake and a whole carrot cake at the sametime. The feeling can be overwhelming. Me and the girls took a couple shots of tequila and put on some music. They see the pool and just like that they both get but butterball naked and jump in. Meanwhile Grownman1 and Junior was chillen outside smokin weed, lounging. I guess this porno scene is going to be broadcast live in front of a studio audience.
Ooh well. I jumps in the pool. And the girls are ready ready. They are on me as if I'm there last supper. Even my ol mighty joe young was taken aback.
Ol mighty joe: is this really real. Are they both sucking on my balls at sametime.
Coolie: yes this is real. Now focus, call upon the power of grayskull and lets commence to smashin.
Ol mighty joe: wait I'm still processing the moment.
Coolie: mouthafucka.
And just like that ol mighty joe was overwhelm with processing how two girls who he just met just an hour ago are giving head and licking balls simultaneously while still having to perform in front of a studio audience. But then Sexual Chocolate said the most calming words ever.
SC: No rush baby. Take your time. We not going anywhere. No rapido.
Well I'll be damn gents. In sosua the street girls will be clock watching trying to rush you and here are these two hunnies not rushing me at all. Thats a plus point in my book. So where do we start to get the mojo the going. Ooh yes lets have ms Vinny lay halfway out the pool while Sexual Chocolate passionately eat her out. Should I join in with SC and dine on southern cuisine? Fuck it why not. Meanwhile on the random tip Grownman1 come over and gives Ms. Vinny a puff of the ganja. As Ms. Vinny reaches euphoria with two tongues on her clit and a puff of mary jane, I look up and my boy gave that pet talk off waterboy.
At 7 sec mark.
[URL]https://youtu.be/Cp9f2jflHf8[/URL]
GM: You can do it! You can do it all night long LOL.
And just like that, the combination of a chilled no rush atmosphere and the pep talk was all I needed.
Ol Mighty Joe: I'm ready.
Coolie: don't fake the funk now.
Ol Mighty Joe: Step back.
I proceeded to step back and watch sexual Chocolate phat ass in the air waiting for me to go deep inside her all while she's eating ms. Vinny. It was all the visual stimulation that was needed to get ol might joe awake because just like that he called up the power of grayskull.
At 29 sec mark.
[URL]https://youtu.be/VnBbW3g5y5Q[/URL]
Ol Mighty Joe: I HAVE THE POWER LOL.
And just like that I'm smashing that choclate bubble while she rocks steady and continues to eat out ms. Vinny.
Ol Mighty Joe: Good God Almighty this is some marvelous pussy.
Coolie: Marvelous indeed.
Ooh my damn does this feel good. Turned sexual Chocolate around and she started to ride ol mighty joe young in pool. Meanwhile ms vinny goes to* my boy Grownman1 for another chronic break.
Sexual Chocolate: Te gusta.
Coolie: HELL YEAH I likes.
Got damn she has some sexy eyes and those tigo bitties are looking amazing. She proceeds to put one in my mouth.
Coolie: don't mind if do.
Meanwhile after her small chronic break Ms. Vinny jumps back in pool and proceeded to kiss sexual Chocolate.
Coolie: Yeah let me get in on the action.
We all starting kissing each other while I'm still smashing Sexual Chocolate. The live studio audience is giving his approval.
GM: We see you big dog. This some inspirational shit.
And just like that the porno scene was in full effect. It was Ms Vinny turn to feel ol mighty joe. And that pussy was nice and tight. Sexaul Chocolate tags herself out for a tequila break as if she was part of the tag team duo Soul Patrol off WWE. Meanwhile ms. Vinny was tighter then the virgin marry pussy but I'm in my kevin hart mode when it comes to taking dick.
At the 35 sec mark.
[URL]https://youtu.be/CNcbhvVcHtU[/URL]
Ms V: ayyi papi.
Coolie: you gon learn today. Now stop all that unnecessary screaming and take this dick like a champ.
And just like that she stop all the theatrics and proceeded to ride ol mighty joe like a wild stallion. You know you're putting in work when when you start to sweat in the pool. But I don't care. I'm in full mojo now. Sexual Chocolate tags herself back in and hops back on ol mighty joe while I tongue kiss Ms. Vinny. We going at it as if Caligula was producing this movie. Dear God, thank you for this 3 some blessing. Amen.
After awhile I was ready to cum but as you guys know condoms suck. And cumming in one is damn near impossible for me now. So I took the condom off set half way out the pool while one gave me head and the other lick my balls. The would rotate every 3 minutes religiously.
Ol Mighty Joe: Now I can get use to this. Wait did Sexual Chocolate just try to put a finger in your ass.
Coolie: nevermind that. Focus on giving them two our secret blend of urbs and spices.
Ol Mighty Joe: Copy roger that.
They both are giving ol mighy joe proper head service. I feel the sexual eruption coming so I tell them two to just kiss each other. The started to passionately kiss each other and just like that I* gave them both a taste of ol Coolies Recipe.
Ol mighty joe: SKEET! SKEET!
What a marvelous moment. Picasso couldn't have made a better portrait. The girls continue to kiss each other even after the final drop of skeet sputtered on their pretty faces. Ms. Vinny then proceeds to lick cum off Sexual Chocolate face.
Coolie: Ooh you a FREAK FREAK. God bless you.
Grownman1 got tired of the live action porn and proceeds to call up his superwoman. Junior went to the store to get us some food. I continue to play with with the hunnies in the pool a little longer before heading up to my room. Had to text Oakie and thank him again supremely.
Oakie: No problem bro. Glad you enjoyed.
And just as the day turn into night and I see the hunnies still going at in my bed an Ice Cube old school song came to mind. Today was a good day! Remix style.
[URL]https://youtu.be/-fVcD1RydY4[/URL]
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2568382]I've never had a traditional 3 some in DR as we consider in the states, where the two girl are kissing and going at it and you as a man jump in like hopscotch. So far I've only had 3 somes where I would have sex with one then switch with the other but the girl don't touch each other. And worse yet youll get females that pretends to like each other. * They won't even kiss each other on the lips and when they eat each other out they give fake licks and moans as if I can't tell theyre just acting all for the money.
But no more. I reached out to the man I know who could take me to the promised land Obi Wan Oakie.
[/QUOTE]Great Reports Coolie and GrownMan.
I've known these chicas for years now, they like to party and they are genuinely into each other, and they said they had a great time.
Thanks for treating them well.
Same with the other two bi's we called up, Miss see and Miss J, but it was only with one day's notice so one was in SD, and the other had a period or something.
I'm not interested in setting guys up with chicas in Sosua, too much can go wrong and you can lose friends. I just decided what the hell to share with a guy I liked and trusted, and took a chance, and it worked out.
But after being exposed to the Party King's Grande Kahoona, they might be a little spoiled now. LOL.
Shout out to Xpartan for taking the time to reply to these guys putting the adventures on this board for all to share. These are old school vets taking the time to report. I saw the videos and heard the stories as they were happening so it's great to see it written. These posts by Coolie high and Grownman show that you can still have fun and enjoy the girls. Maybe guys aren't commenting because they only want a casa girl for 100 usd an hour, just shows how times have changed.
The funniest video Coolie sent me is the light skinned flaca Venezuelan walking around the villa naked with Coolies size 18 shoe acting like a chicken. The shoes were bigger than her.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2568413]Shout out to Xpartan for taking the time to reply to these guys putting the adventures on this board for all to share. These are old school vets taking the time to report.
The funniest video Coolie sent me is the light skinned flaca Venezuelan walking around the villa naked with Coolies size 18 shoe acting like a chicken. The shoes were bigger than her.[/QUOTE]It ain't no problem Gogo. I understand a lot of guys read without comments. I'm kind of used to it. This is why I have the boom boom room. I take time to write my adventures in my area that way I don't have to trouble a lot of guys with my adventures and bad penmanship. The giant insisted that I write this in the Sosua section. Out of respect for the board I did.
Not everybody had someone like yourself to groom them. Obi-Wan and myself owe people like you a lot. Not to mention Cooley Hi was here long before I came on the scene. How to show respect is what you taught me. How to give respect is what you showed me. Maybe some of these guys don't have anything positive to say, so I am happy that they choose to just stay quiet and not comment. Thank you again Xpartan. Our kind is a dying breed.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2568413]Shout out to Xpartan for taking the time to reply to these guys putting the adventures on this board for all to share. These are old school vets taking the time to report. I saw the videos and heard the stories as they were happening so it's great to see it written. These posts by Coolie high and Grownman show that you can still have fun and enjoy the girls. Maybe guys aren't commenting because they only want a casa girl for 100 usd an hour, just shows how times have changed.
The funniest video Coolie sent me is the light skinned flaca Venezuelan walking around the villa naked with Coolies size 18 shoe acting like a chicken. The shoes were bigger than her.[/QUOTE]Hardly surprising GoGo.
We got some long time posters here that are not fans of Sosua.
We are told that Sosua is dead, done, a rip off, and if you enjoy it you just don't know any better, or enjoy getting ripped off. They say the smart mongers have moved on to "the next level", LOL.
I wouldn't expect them to backslap anybody that posts a positive report here.
And that's not good for the forum, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Ju1990;2568000]Thinking about making a weekend trip to the DR. I'm stuck in deciding Boca Chica, Santo Domingo and Sosua. I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel by a beach that has a bar frequented by chicas. I'm not a demanding person. Just need a safe hotel that is girl friendly and don't have to go far to pick up. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Welcome to ISG, Ju1990.
There are thousands upon thousands of posts written in the Sosua, Boca Chica, and Santo Domingo forums containing the information that you are seeking. Please take the time to read some of them, and then if you have a more specific question, please ask it in the appropriate forum, and we will do our best to help you.
Remember to write a trip report upon your return from the DR. Mongers who ask many questions and beg for help, but who then don't contribute trip reports, are frequently ignored on this website.
Good luck in the DR, and we look forward to reading your DR trip report in the appropriate forum.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2568413]Shout out to Xpartan for taking the time to reply to these guys putting the adventures on this board for all to share. These are old school vets taking the time to report. I saw the videos and heard the stories as they were happening so it's great to see it written. These posts by Coolie high and Grownman show that you can still have fun and enjoy the girls. Maybe guys aren't commenting because they only want a casa girl for 100 usd an hour, just shows how times have changed.
The funniest video Coolie sent me is the light skinned flaca Venezuelan walking around the villa naked with Coolies size 18 shoe acting like a chicken. The shoes were bigger than her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2568480]It ain't no problem Gogo. I understand a lot of guys read without comments. I'm kind of used to it. This is why I have the boom boom room. I take time to write my adventures in my area that way I don't have to trouble a lot of guys with my adventures and bad penmanship. The giant insisted that I write this in the Sosua section. Out of respect for the board I did.
Not everybody had someone like yourself to groom them. Obi-Wan and myself owe people like you a lot. Not to mention Cooley Hi was here long before I came on the scene. How to show respect is what you taught me. How to give respect is what you showed me. Maybe some of these guys don't have anything positive to say, so I am happy that they choose to just stay quiet and not comment. Thank you again Xpartan. Our kind is a dying breed.[/QUOTE]Oh but I was moved by these reports! Like really, truly moved you see, the way reading doesn't usually move me if you catch my meaning, LOL. You and Coolie have brought it to the new level.
Thank YOU!
Are there rip offs in Sosua?
You bet your life there are, like anywhere. But they depend on the rip off artist finding a suitable mark. It always takes two to tango.
Here's a true story from 2 days ago.
I'm chillin at the bar with my beer, with a knockout beauty (photo by request) and this new guy joins the conversation. He says he's got businesses all over the world. UK, France, Australia. Some kind of vintage wine importing. He looks the part, so the chica's ears and eyes light up. He goes on to say that his investors give him $1,000 US and at the end of the year get a return of $65,000. Really?
I started laughing, and asked him, "How much for just a hand job?
Due to language difficulty he and the chica did not get my joke, but I couldn't stop laughing.
I'm laughing now as I write this.
I suspect there are a few poor souls out there that fall for this stuff, and are complaining that they (or more likely "some guy they know") were ripped off.
Obi-Wan and I had a conversation about negative comments that people say in regards to the Sue. This board knows I have my share of gripes. And yet I could be almost anywhere in the world and I chose to be here. My actions speak louder than my words. Sosua is like the wife that you've been complaining about for years yet you haven't divorced.
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2021/06/22/tourism-announces-investment-of-300-million-in-sosua/[/URL]
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2572126][URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2021/06/22/tourism-announces-investment-of-300-million-in-sosua/[/URL]
Showdown.[/QUOTE]No, it's 300 million pesos going bye-bye.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2572126][URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2021/06/22/tourism-announces-investment-of-300-million-in-sosua/[/URL]
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I wonder what "and the adaptation of the Cabarete beach. " means?
[QUOTE=Showdown;2572126][URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2021/06/22/tourism-announces-investment-of-300-million-in-sosua/[/URL]
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Isn't 300 million pesos like 6 million usd. This won't turn sosua into punta cana. Not sure how building a supermarket and 600 parking will attract more foreign tourists.
Even if the nightlife is moved it will still be an easy access or commute compare to any other mongering destination.
We will adapt and girls will adapt.
[QUOTE=Questner;2572336]No, it's 300 million pesos going bye-bye.[/QUOTE].....or hello, depending on from whose perspective you're looking at it.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2572394]Isn't 300 million pesos like 6 million usd. This won't turn sosua into punta cana. Not sure how building a supermarket and 600 parking will attract more foreign tourists.
Even if the nightlife is moved it will still be an easy access or commute compare to any other mongering destination.
We will adapt and girls will adapt.[/QUOTE]A little less than $5.3 M US. Enough for some parking lots and improved beach access, maybe a little toward the decades long project of trying to move the clubs and chicas to the far end of Pedro Clisante in a more discrete sort of red light district.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2568668]Are there rip offs in Sosua?
You bet your life there are, like anywhere. But they depend on the rip off artist finding a suitable mark. It always takes two to tango.
Here's a true story from 2 days ago.
I'm chillin at the bar with my beer, with a knockout beauty (photo by request) and this new guy joins the conversation. He says he's got businesses all over the world. UK, France, Australia. Some kind of vintage wine importing. He looks the part, so the chica's ears and eyes light up. He goes on to say that his investors give him $1,000 US and at the end of the year get a return of $65,000. Really?
I started laughing, and asked him, "How much for just a hand job?
Due to language difficulty he and the chica did not get my joke, but I couldn't stop laughing.
I'm laughing now as I write this.
I suspect there are a few poor souls out there that fall for this stuff, and are complaining that they (or more likely "some guy they know") were ripped off.[/QUOTE]Bernie Madoff would have laughed at that one.
Where are people going at night for fun.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2573535]Where are people going at night for fun.[/QUOTE]It was hopping a few nights ago, so this is new, or just a rumor. I'll check it out.
The party goes on in the many small bars around town, Bar Central, old Rumba, Meringue, and a couple more on Pedro.
For guys who like to dance there are bars with bands, and / or DJ's, like Don Andre, Jabili, Cheers.
But I see most players taking the chicas home to party around their hotel or private pools.
Sosua is changing weekly. The old El Flo / Platinum bar has been razed, Apparently there is a clinic going up in its place.
But where there's will, there's always a way. As travel restriction up North are eased, there are quite a few tourists for this usually slow time of year. And they are getting laid.
Life goes on!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2573535]Where are people going at night for fun.[/QUOTE]I didn't hear Ahnvee is closed. I heard it's a new rule that stragglers can't walk up after curfew. If you are already there, you are good. Kings is still a nice spot and the Tree house across the street from Kings is good. Several hotels have private parties also. Baileys is the new daytime hangout for chicks and the dudes be packed in there, sometimes you have to wait on the tables. Mile high is a nice new restaurant on the strip, plus they have a disco that the brothers hangout at.
I've noticed more Haitians than before. Either Sosua has made them hardcore or times have just changed but the Haitian girls didn't seem to be cutting deals and GFE was harder to get than in the past. Before I could always count on the Haitian girls to step up if the Dominican girls weren't acting right.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2572342]I wonder what "and the adaptation of the Cabarete beach. " means?[/QUOTE]Maybe they are going to install big wave making machine in Sosua beach to attract surfing tourists like cabarete. Sosua will die a slow death if there is no prostitution. No amount of investment is going to make Sosua regular tourist destination.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2573703]Sosua will die a slow death if there is no prostitution. No amount of investment is going to make Sosua regular tourist destination.[/QUOTE]Well somebody gets it. Unfortunately it's not one of the decision makers.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2573692]...Haitian girls to step up if the Dominican girls weren't acting right.[/QUOTE]A few girls may get over by fellas now paying American strip club prices to session with girls, but many girls will go hungry by straying off the Dominican standard for sessions. Once the dummies find out they've overpaid, they should become reluctant to overpay after their first mistake, especially when the girls ask papi for leche after 10 minutes. But I did hear that the girls at Ahnvee have a chica union fee of $150-$200 US for short-time. Ahnvee is where the clown wannabe VIP ballers handout to pop bottles.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2573881]A few girls may get over by fellas now paying American strip club prices to session with girls, but many girls will go hungry by straying off the Dominican standard for sessions. Once the dummies find out they've overpaid, they should become reluctant to overpay after their first mistake, especially when the girls ask papi for leche after 10 minutes. But I did hear that the girls at Ahnvee have a chica union fee of $150-$200 US for short-time. Ahnvee is where the clown wannabe VIP ballers handout to pop bottles.[/QUOTE]The new weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money, and feel 100 usd to 200 usd is the going rate in Sosua. They have many tells and are easy for the girls to figure out. Only communicating on the translator, telling the girls they are only there for the weekend, and talking in US dollars all give the girls reasons to hold the line. Before guys could get get a girls number and use her as a backup plan for later with a discount. Now a guy exchanges numbers with the girl and she uses you as the backup plan in Sosua.
This place used to be paradise on earth from what I've heard but I keep hearing the chica prices going up to $150-$200, wtf? Not just here but videos on yt as well.
I am planning a mongering vacation and DR was my first choice but Colombia is looking more and more promising. $20-$40 there on average for chicas consistently across the board.
Any intel is well appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2573881]A few girls may get over by fellas now paying American strip club prices to session with girls, but many girls will go hungry by straying off the Dominican standard for sessions. Once the dummies find out they've overpaid, they should become reluctant to overpay after their first mistake, especially when the girls ask papi for leche after 10 minutes. But I did hear that the girls at Ahnvee have a chica union fee of $150-$200 US for short-time. Ahnvee is where the clown wannabe VIP ballers handout to pop bottles.[/QUOTE]Why is the board always focused about the weekend warriors, and how much they spend. You can't expect a guy who travels for a weekend to turn down the best looking girl in its standard because he didn't want to spend an extra $20 or $30. This is madness. Especially if the guy is spending way more on hotel, flight, and bottles (assuming the person is a baller). Everybody who leaves in sosua or dr has time on his side, than most of us don't. Even when classico, merengue, and rumba were all opened, I have always preferred to get girls before 10 pm, then go back back to classico, and pick one when the club closed because after that most girls had to make a decission either you go home with nothing or you get 2500 peso.
The only thing we on this board have control over is to write good reviews, that will make more guys book a trip to Sosua. I was hesitating about between sosua and cartagena, but after I read grownman report I was like fuck that I am going to sosua. I didn't want to spend my time worrying about which hotel or airbnb is girl friendly or not. That's why I decided to go with the familar sosua than cartagena. I booked my flight for early August, and I will make sure to write a report after I get back. This is the only way we can help prices go down. The more guys decide to go to sosua, more girls will decide to come down to Sosua, and prices will have to adjust.
It's not because a girl sell pussy that she can't see what is in her best strategy to make more money. All the guys going to Avhnee have a limited number of nuts, girls got it figured that it is much easier to hold the line at 4000 peso, than going for 2000 peso. Ahvnee is the prime target to overcharge guys, why would you expect them to charge what they charge the same guy during the day or during the week.
Everything follows the supply and demand law, the advantage girls have in sosua over us is that they know each other and have a better chance fixing price for them. And that strategy will work for some, unless more girls decide to come down sosua. And for that to happen we need more mongers, which means more good reviews coming from us who were there or who plan to go there. That's the only thing we have control over because nobody here is sharing the numbers of girls who charge 1500 or 2000 peso.
A good comparison to what 's happing to sosua right now is the price to get an hair cut in the US. I used to pay $20 to $25 before covid, now I am paying $40. And now most of them want an appointment. There is probably the same numbers of barbers available, but many of their customers learned to cut their hair by themselves. But prices didn't drop to $10 instead they doubled.
[QUOTE=Swann124;2574302]This place used to be paradise on earth from what I've heard but I keep hearing the chica prices going up to $150-$200, wtf? Not just here but videos on yt as well.
I am planning a mongering vacation and DR was my first choice but Colombia is looking more and more promising. $20-$40 there on average for chicas consistently across the board.
Any intel is well appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Both destinations are good.
The same girl that charges 100 or 150, will most likely take 50 or less during the day or during the week. If you got to get the best looking girl at avhnee at primetime, then you will be competing with the weekend warriors aka the ballers. But if you are patient you will be fine. Not every girl at avhnee makes 100 or 150. I bet the majority don't even get someone.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574374]Both destinations are good.
The same girl that charges 100 or 150, will most likely take 50 or less during the day or during the week. If you got to get the best looking girl at avhnee at primetime, then you will be competing with the weekend warriors aka the ballers. But if you are patient you will be fine. Not every girl at avhnee makes 100 or 150. I bet the majority don't even get someone.[/QUOTE]Title says it all. Thanks for your help. I am still deciding between the two. Taking $3000 cash. DR seems cheaper all together and more things more wild but the girls in Colombia are hotter imo.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574336]Why is the board always focused about the weekend warriors...[/QUOTE]I agree. The weekend warriors focus on the hardcore hoes anyway. My next trip will be after the current curfew of July 15. I have girls I can see from years back, who are still nice and a lot of fun. Also, there are a lot of new semi-pros caused the pandemic. They are easy to spot. If you meet a nice girl in POP, for example, she'll find her way to you apartment to make some money and enjoy company. I think 2000-3000 is still the stand for the semi-pros because they know its better than nothing.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574374]Both destinations are good.
The same girl that charges 100 or 150, will most likely take 50 or less during the day or during the week. If you got to get the best looking girl at avhnee at primetime, then you will be competing with the weekend warriors aka the ballers. But if you are patient you will be fine. Not every girl at avhnee makes 100 or 150. I bet the majority don't even get someone.[/QUOTE]Sadly the problem is not only the price, but the service from these girls where destroyed through these weekend millionairs also. So most of the times you get professional, cold and rushed service ala leche papi leche. CBJ is often required.
Asking for even more money after the deed is also very popular and it seems that the weekend millionars have teached them that also.
IMO DR is not worth it.
Only the Haitians were mostly ok, but then I prefer to go directly to Mombasa. Much better and cheaper Mongering there.
[QUOTE=Swann124;2574302]This place used to be paradise on earth from what I've heard but I keep hearing the chica prices going up to $150-$200, wtf? Not just here but videos on yt as well.
I am planning a mongering vacation and DR was my first choice but Colombia is looking more and more promising. $20-$40 there on average for chicas consistently across the board.
Any intel is well appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. Beaches. If a beach is important, choose the DR.
2. History and old architecture. If you care, pick Cartagena.
3. If all you care about is mongering on a budget, that's Bogota. Or Medellin, which might be slightly more expensive, but has better climate.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2574567]1. Beaches. If a beach is important, choose the DR...[/QUOTE]Depends what you want from a beach. There are miles of essentially unihabited beaches between Cartagena and Santa Marta, some windswept, some sheltered. The beach northeast of CTG airport is wide open for miles and filled (overfilled, IMO) with decent hotels, condos and Airbnb's -- probably easy to get an incall, or is a pretty short ride to El Centro. Santa Marta's city beach is Rodadero, which is not quite as bad (touts, crowding, murky water) as the beaches in Boca Grande (CTG). From what I saw in Santa Marta (five years ago) there are a ton of broke Veneca SWer's. Really nice sheltered beaches in Taganga, which 30 years ago was a hippie / nudist haven, but I've heard has become more of a shithole with prostibulas and drugs!
Personally, I would fly to CTG, rent a car and stay in an Airbnb NE of the airport. Here's a google earth image looking SW towards CTG
[QUOTE=Swann124;2574377]Title says it all. Thanks for your help. I am still deciding between the two. Taking $3000 cash. DR seems cheaper all together and more things more wild but the girls in Colombia are hotter imo.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to columbia yet but I have done a lot of research and I have friends who go there frequently.
What I like about sosua is no need for transportation, and the farthest you will have to go with a taxi or motocycle is maybe less than 5 minutes away. And it's way more easier to get girls in sosua compared any other monger destinations in the world. According to my friends only Bogota can give many options throughout the day like in sosua. Then Bogota during the day it is mostly santa fe which is full of harcore streetworkers, and you are not using your hotel. So when your time is up you get a knock on the door or pay more. Cartagena doesn't have too many options during the day.
What I don't like about sosua, girls try to run games. You got to really study the behavior of girls you decide to take. If you are being rushed, she is probably going to rush in the bedroom too. Expect CBJ from most girls but that always depends on you. If you speak spanish then you will have an advantage that I don't I have. But I still do fine with limited spanish.
As far as who is hotter, if you are more attracted to white looking girls then go to columbia. If you are into mixed or black girls then go to DR.
Both places have hot women. One thing about sosua is you are not into the big booty girls you probably won't be in direct competition with the weekend warriors LOL.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574625]...And it's way more easier to get girls in sosua compared any other monger destinations in the world...[/QUOTE]Um, Bangkok, Pattaya, AC, Nosy Be, etc?
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574625]What I like about sosua. And it's way more easier to get girls in sosua compared any other monger destinations in the world. According to my friends only Bogota can give many options throughout the day like in sosua. [/QUOTE]Long list of mongering places you and your friends have not been to if you have the nerve to write these 2 things.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574636]Long list of mongering places you and your friends have not been to if you have the nerve to write these 2 things.[/QUOTE]This is all opinions guys. You can agree or disagree. Like I said I have never been to columbia. And I disclosed it. Why don't you answer the guy. I have been to sosua, santo domingo, rio, Bangkok, pattaya, jarkata, johannesburg just to name a few. Etc. If you know an easy place with the same quality and quantify of girls selling pussy let me know and I will add it my next destination. Espcially if its closer to the beach and safe like sosua.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2574635]Um, Bangkok, Pattaya, AC, Nosy Be, etc?[/QUOTE]Yes if I ask 3 guys to book an hotel in sosua, Bangkok or pattaya. The guy in sosua has an high probability to bump into a girl selling pussy as soon as he walks outside of his hotel. Bangkok and Pattaya are still big cities, and you have to make sure you are in the right area before you can start asking girls how much. And let not forget that it easier to get by in sosua just with english or someone can pick up few words and sentences over time.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574670]Yes if I ask 3 guys to book an hotel in sosua, Bangkok or pattaya. The guy in sosua has an high probability to bump into a girl selling pussy as soon as he walks outside of his hotel. [/QUOTE]DP you got me to cussing now brother. My place in Pattaya is not even near the tourist area with bars and shit. Yet I can walk outside and see some random chick walking past and ask her to come to my room. They don't even know how many bars, massage parlors, or hookers are in Pattaya. In google it is estimated to be 27,000 hookers. Old Kool loves Sosua and even he only puts the number of hookers there at 200. You are on one today!
How much local language you think you need for this chick? $30 will get you all that is advertised. And none of that bait and switch Sosua stuff.
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzrofYTwWo8[/url]
Most locations you have to go where the actions is. In Sosua you are always in the middle all the time. Almost every women every where you go is in play. I most admitt that things have changed significantly in Sosua. There is neither the numbers or the quality of 3 or 4 years ago. Sosua is being strangled but is a very tough *****. Many guys like me have friends restarants, beaches and yes women to make the place a favorite. We go hoping to find some of the magic of the pass. It is getting increasingly more difficult to find. However as soon as you step out of your taxi even today you are seeing freelancer with every glance. So you are walking around with a boner all day.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2573968]The new weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money, and feel 100 usd to 200 usd is the going rate in Sosua. They have many tells and are easy for the girls to figure out. Only communicating on the translator, telling the girls they are only there for the weekend, and talking in US dollars all give the girls reasons to hold the line. Before guys could get get a girls number and use her as a backup plan for later with a discount. Now a guy exchanges numbers with the girl and she uses you as the backup plan in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Limited time and "unlimited money"? Most of these, if young, have traveled outside of their lair for the first time (some joke about covid supplement). If old, are on social security. Their typical reference points are whatever they have seen in terms of price and how it is done, their own cities. So yes, they use what they know including the USD or the language. I would too! It just so happens that the DR is the closest that these people have, next to their native cities and for many it is the first international travel and they are in the know thanks to youtube, and they live and travel in their groups and you could see them from a mile as do the women in Sosua.
On this Sunday, invited a girl I know and asked her to bring someone along. The second one balked at my request and so I let her take it easy and called the first girl who was straightening up the kitchen. I was a little pissed as I did not get satisfaction and so I asked the first one to give me a massage. Lo and behold, the newbie, after not too long re-entered and sat on the other side of the bed. One thing led to another as I was lying with eyes closed as these two were chirping, and responding to my requests in a complete non-threatening amateur milieu. By the time they were done for the day, about three hours later, they were dancing Bachata, with me and between the two, playing music using my bluetooth speaker and they left with a smile on their faces and the bed and the kitchen was ship-shape. Try that in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia. Heck try that in Frankfurt or Trondheim. I SPLURGED on that day having bought a bunch of beers for them.
Can't speak of Brazil etc but I would take the DR any given day, for its spontaneity as I would dare anyone if one could have a similar impromptu experience in S. E Asia. Of course, if it is "wham bam, thank maam", you can go anywhere including the "hallowed" Thailand. Just try speaking that singsong Thai with them and dance with them at the end of the session.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574683]DP you got me to cussing now brother. My place in Pattaya is not even near the tourist area with bars and shit. Yet I can walk outside and see some random chick walking past and ask her to come to my room. They don't even know how many bars, massage parlors, or hookers are in Pattaya. In google it is estimated to be 27,000 hookers. Old Kool loves Sosua and even he only puts the number of hookers there at 200. You are on one today!
How much local language you think you need for this chick? $30 will get you all that is advertised. And none of that bait and switch Sosua stuff.
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzrofYTwWo8[/url][/QUOTE]Let take Bangkok as an example. I stayed at the marriot sukumvit. Most of the massage parlors are two train stops away from the marriot. With most the actions being around Nana plaza and soi cowboy.
Like oldkool said you have to do your research to know where the action is in most cities especially if someone wants to be close to the action. In sosua you are close to everytime no matter where you stay.
Like I said this is all subjective. The point is to help more guys feel comfortable about taking their first trip.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574721] Like I said this is all subjective. The point is to help more guys feel comfortable about taking their first trip.[/QUOTE]I agree that Sosua being a small place, everything is accessible. On the other hand, I am not sure if I wish to make "more" guys feel comfortable. The DR for a variety of reasons has been letting go of its own specialties, and so you see Rap music replacing their own Bachata, Salsa and Merengue, (or adopting hamburgers and fried food, with significant impact on their girth and health) as they try to cater to their customers. A bigger country with a strong inner root would not change so quickly, as the DR has.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2574721]Let take Bangkok as an example. I stayed at the marriot sukumvit. Most of the massage parlors are two train stops away from the marriot. With most the actions being around Nana plaza and soi cowboy.
Like oldkool said you have to do your research to know where the action is in most cities especially if someone wants to be close to the action. In sosua you are close to everytime no matter where you stay.
Like I said this is all subjective. The point is to help more guys feel comfortable about taking their first trip.[/QUOTE]The posters here, that constantly bash Sosua, and try to sell Thailand, Brazil, Philippes etc, miss the point entirely.
Sosua is for those who like tropical beaches, Dominicana women, and easy access, chica friendly hotels. It's much cheaper than those places, when you factor in your travel expenses.
No long haul travel, no big city traffic gridlock.
For those who complain about chica prices here, look at the costs and the effort you put in, to get to these places at the other side of the world. Now for me, that's expensive, and stressful. Not quality time.
Here you can get a decent chica friendly hotel room with kitchen, in the middle of the action for $45 dollars.
Air fare, $450, Room for a week, $300.
Going rates for a decent chica, $40 to $60. And good restaurants and 3 beaches all within a 10 minute walk.
For a Toronto visitor you can breakfast in Toronto, and lunch on the beach by 1 pm, no stress.
Hard to beat. Especially if you are not into Thailand or Philippine women, like me.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2574845]The posters here, that constantly bash Sosua, and try to sell Thailand, Brazil, Philippes etc, miss the point entirely.[/QUOTE]I could not care less about inviting more people by selling the bounties of the DR. Be happy wherever you want to be. On the other hand, I find it galling that one poster in particular, who apparently lives in Thailand, and does not miss any opportunity to thrash the DR, is in the DR very frequently. I guess he gets all freebies (as he had always maintained) in the DR but in Thailand, he has to pay?
I said it before and I'll say it again. Any OG monger that use to know how old Sosua operate should come to Sosua for NOSTALGIC purpose only. Its a great feeling to go and see your favorite chicken spot and or local beach bar that's still operating after all these years. Chat up with the local youtube folks in real life and see how they move and operate on a daily basis.
Was with Oakie again yesterday and he has the perfect setup. He doesn't have to go to avhnee and pay ridiculous gringo prices. Hell I didn't either. Just by being around Oakie and seeing how he moves hes cut my prices to where I had a young Chocolate bubble butt follow me on her motoconcho to my villa last night for 3500 peso. And caused no problems. Also same reason why I was with Grownman1 early this month. We watched the Sosua girls show all there curves while we were at the beach and then we were ready for some fun we imported the ladies from puerto plata.
Sosua is what you make it. The OG's can still find quality in sosua and if they can't they already have a built in local network to where they can find what they want. Hell worse case scenario you drive to cabarete and / or puerta plata to find better quality. Meanwhile let the young weekend warriors continue to pay those ridiculous prices because at the end of the day what another man pays for pussy should NOT effect you. Down here all you have to do is ADJUST and ADAPT to the current environment (like when they put 3 pm curfew on drinking, we just poured our beer into cups and kept it moving) and youll be fine and get the quality hunnies that you're accustomed too.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2575083]On the other hand, I find it galling that one poster in particular, who apparently lives in Thailand, and does not miss any opportunity to thrash the DR, is in the DR very frequently. I guess he gets all freebies (as he had always maintained) in the DR but in Thailand, he has to pay?[/QUOTE]I mostly mix and match wherever I go. I probably do 80% free chicks to 20% paid ones. I have been in Colombia for the last 9 days in 3 different cities with freebies. Tomorrow I will head to Medellin and meet up with some board members at which time I will do some mongering and have 1 free chick to meet up with. Then Monday I will be off to Bogota getting it in with free chicks again and may stop by Santa Fe to get in some mongering if I get the chance.
I guess I am still stuck in the past. Seeing guys like DP come through excited to find a mediocre chick for 2500 short time and all I can think about is when you could get any chick (plenty of superstars) you wanted in Sosua for 1000 overnight, total GFE, and you would have to put them out. In today's Sosua you make a deal with a chick for $100, she tries to change the price to $150, wants to leave early, does not perform agreed upon services, and steals shit from you.
There are other mongering places that you don't have to worry about shit like that. Even Old Kool now agrees that the quality has gone way down. Looks like frequent Sosua goers are finally realizing the stuff I have been saying for years is actually true. But like Coolie said, nostalgia and dragon chasing is a mf.
As someone that now lives in Sosua until I can get back to Pattaya with no restrictions Sosua is far from a top Mongering destination. What MR E said about agreeing to one price and then making a scene back at the hotel to get more money happens more than it should and is a reason I don't even bother with these chicas they are low class. A Little story I went to Kings / Rumbas and the quality was so bad when dudes tell me they pulled a dime I'm like from where because I think the chicas walking around are just ugly. Sosua has it's good points walkable safe good food around and a beach it use to be cheap for girls not so much. I'm thinking of going to Medellin in two week just so I can get some mongering done.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575245]I guess I am still stuck in the past. Seeing guys like DP come through excited to find a mediocre chick for 2500 short time and all I can think about is when you could get any chick (plenty of superstars) you wanted in Sosua for 1000 overnight, total GFE, and you would have to put them out. In today's Sosua you make a deal with a chick for $100, she tries to change the price to $150, wants to leave early, does not perform agreed upon services, and steals shit from you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response. All, I presume it includes you as well, have to learn on their own. No amount of others' preaching will do. Also the weekend warriors can stray only so far, reason why the DR is impacted so much more than, say, Colombia or Thailand. I would also bet that there is no perfect place. I say this because I learned after having screwed up, whether it was Japan / Korea (what decadence! Or Aus / NZ or S. E Asia, heck even in safe Hamburg, not to speak of your favorite country, which I visited about 30 times and even stayed at the Oriental and similar along the Chao Phraya, at company expense.
Point is: let's not put down a place or a person just because there are "better" ways. There is space for all, including those women who too have to eat!
Where is he finding all these dimes who want to give a 50 plus year old guy sex with no strings attached. A legand in his own mind. This is a pay for play site by in large. Sex with your girlfriends is of little interest to mongers. If I played with womens emotions and lied about my feelings it would be easy to take advantage of poor third world women looking for a savior. I like to be upfront with chicas and do expect them to be dumb enough to think I am in love with them. Sosua is a open air sex market. GFE is rarely on the market in Sosua it is a transitional market. I am not sure why an expat would need much pay for play living is the DR. Having money in a third world country can make a troll a chick magnet. You can cultivate relationships with women who will date you for gifts annd money. This has been very satisfying for me. Extremely good sex can be had in these type of relationships. To my mongering brothers pay what ever you are comfortable with for what you want. It is about you being happy. I am pushing 66 this year and enjoying some of the best sex of my life.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2574727]I agree that Sosua being a small place, everything is accessible. On the other hand, I am not sure if I wish to make "more" guys feel comfortable. [/QUOTE]T I am just cracking up because you always talk about going to Sosua to eat and smoke, but never to monger. You always mention getting your chicks from other areas, despite how great the mongering in Sosua is.
The key to having a good time in Sosua (or anywhere else) is to avoid negative guys like the plague.
Spending a few days here with Coolie, and we're having a ball together. We make it party time anywhere we go, but we can't get out of my damn bar.
We got my reliable chicas and their friends, and he's busy fucking some fine ladies.
A couple days in and he owns the place.
No GFE here? Chicas stealing your stuff? Chicas ripping you off? Poor quality chicas?
Not in our Sosua! LOL.
We got some great memories here, and videos to prove it!
My message to the negative naysayers is the same. If you can't have a good time in Sosua, you should take up some other hobby, like stamp collecting.
Or look in the mirror.
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On this Sunday, invited a girl I know and asked her to bring someone along. The second one balked at my request and so I let her take it easy and called the first girl who was straightening up the kitchen. I was a little pissed as I did not get satisfaction and so I asked the first one to give me a massage. Lo and behold, the newbie, after not too long re-entered and sat on the other side of the bed. One thing led to another as I was lying with eyes closed as these two were chirping, and responding to my requests in a complete non-threatening amateur milieu. By the time they were done for the day, about three hours later, they were dancing Bachata, with me and between the two, playing music using my bluetooth speaker and they left with a smile on their faces and the bed and the kitchen was ship-shape. Try that in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia. Heck try that in Frankfurt or Trondheim. I SPLURGED on that day having bought a bunch of beers for them.
[/QUOTE]This is the scenario that is very typical of the DR. Understanding "non-threatening amateur milieu" like this can happen on any given day that ends in Y. Are you saying in your experience It will be challenging to get similar scenarios in these other places? Cuba is another place that I have experience very similar scenarios.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2575234]I said it before and I'll say it again. Any OG monger that use to know how old Sosua operate should come to Sosua for NOSTALGIC purpose only.
Peace.[/QUOTE]I look at the Sue like it's one popular karaoke bar around the corner from my house. It's easy for many first timers to get up on the stage and do their thing. Though, I'm now a regular customer and have too performed in the past; I am not there for the singing. I'm not there for the drink specials on draft beer. I feel it's water down. However I can order my wine like a few other regulars that frequent the place a lot.
Just like in the Sue; I am not there for many of the regular SW or to swim in the water. The place is convenient and I can transport my Regulars or new new from nearby cities. If all else fails I can just point and click.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2575423]Where is he finding all these dimes who want to give a 50 plus year old guy sex with no strings attached. A legand in his own mind. This is a pay for play site by in large. Sex with your girlfriends is of little interest to mongers. If I played with womens emotions and lied about my feelings it would be easy to take advantage of poor third world women looking for a savior. I like to be upfront with chicas and do expect them to be dumb enough to think I am in love with them. Sosua is a open air sex market. GFE is rarely on the market in Sosua it is a transitional market. I am not sure why an expat would need much pay for play living is the DR. Having money in a third world country can make a troll a chick magnet. You can cultivate relationships with women who will date you for gifts annd money. This has been very satisfying for me. Extremely good sex can be had in these type of relationships. To my mongering brothers pay what ever you are comfortable with for what you want. It is about you being happy. I am pushing 66 this year and enjoying some of the best sex of my life.[/QUOTE]I have not travelled since March, 2020. From my gathering of info I would like to believe that the first country I would travel to would be the Dominican Republic. I have had my fair share of escorts right here at home and my reason for travelling would basically be for rest and relaxation to free my mind from the stress brought on by contemplating the pandemic. My choice of location will not be Sosua but most likely a nice condo at Juan Dolio (open to suggestions). I will try to hook up with non-pros. Whatever non-pros I bang will be none of y'all business, I will keep that info to myself. However, if not successful in that endeavor I will no doubt sample hookers which I have always done which info I will gladly share with you debauchees.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2575595]This is the scenario that is very typical of the DR. Understanding "non-threatening amateur milieu" like this can happen on any given day that ends in Y. Are you saying in your experience It will be challenging to get similar scenarios in these other places? Cuba is another place that I have experience very similar scenarios.[/QUOTE]That happens everywhere and is not DR specific. Like the time a chick in Thailand (where he said to try it) told me to go pick her friend up to hang out in my room with us because it was the friend's birthday. The first girl went to the toilet and came out and saw me fucking her friend on the bed. She came up behind me and started licking my ass. This was not an only 3 hour thing because we slept together like 3 peas in a pod that night.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575637]That happens everywhere and is not DR specific. Like the time a chick in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I understand it can happen anywhere Mr. E just like chicas rushing you to finish, but the Sue is infamous for it. Just like anal is in Brazil or silicone in Colombia. Tempoecorto is saying experiencing a "non-threatening amateur milieu" is not normalized for our hobby in other places he's mongered.
I can't count how many times I've had situations similar to his in the DR.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575434]T I am just cracking up because you always talk about going to Sosua to eat and smoke, but never to monger. You always mention getting your chicks from other areas, despite how great the mongering in Sosua is.[/QUOTE]Oh come on, Mr. E! I speak of food and smoke because there is nothing new on the women front that has not already been spoken about, dissected and pooh-poohed. Besides, Sosua girls are not necessarily from Sosua. Chicks come to my place from wherever, but never from the streets of Sosua and definitely not those that speak English, for heaven's sake. I would be quite happy in Santiago (this trip even a woman came to visit me from there. Something I try to avoid because of the distance) but I love Sosua, for the food from around the world, the beach and the easy going pace due to the small footprint of the town itself. That women can be invited is obviously a big draw but that as we all know, is true for the whole island.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2575595]Are you saying in your experience It will be challenging to get similar scenarios in these other places? Cuba is another place that I have experience very similar scenarios.[/QUOTE]Never say never! But I have traveled to about 50 countries around the world. Mostly Europe and Asia (I used to live in Singapore and so know Asia / Aus-NZ well). I never experienced what I just described before, in that spontaneous a manner. Of course one of the biggest challenge is the language. I have been told that Brazil / Colombia (and perhaps Cuba as you described) are also spontaneous but I do not have any personal experience, never having been there.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2575671]I can't count how many times I've had situations similar to his in the DR.[/QUOTE]If you are experiencing it, that means you are doing a whole bunch of things right, starting from choosing the right kind of women plus treating them right, so they too feel comfortable being themselves in your presence. The fact is, my story was not at all about lying in bed naked with two women but about the aftermath, when the two women were joyfully dancing bachata to the music. I cannot speak of others but outside of DR (and may be it is a Hispanic experience and available in other Latino American spaces), I have never had such an experience, and that too without ever lying or promising who knows what.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2575699]Oh come on, Mr. E! I speak of food and smoke because there is nothing new on the women front that has not already been spoken about, dissected and pooh-poohed. Besides, Sosua girls are not necessarily from Sosua. Chicks come to my place from wherever, but never from the streets of Sosua and definitely not those that speak English, for heaven's sake. I would be quite happy in Santiago (this trip even a woman came to visit me from there. Something I try to avoid because of the distance) but I love Sosua, for the food from around the world, the beach and the easy going pace due to the small footprint of the town itself. That women can be invited is obviously a big draw but that as we all know, is true for the whole island.[/QUOTE]LOL.
Guys that never come to Sosua, but post endlessly in the Sosua Forum about how bad it is, obviously get all their info, second and third hand.
And we all know how reliable that info is. LOL.
Most of the chicas in Sosua, come from SD, Santiago, PP and everywhere else. You can run into the same chicas in Boca Chica on any given weekend.
Of all the ladies I hang with, I know of only one, who actually lives in Sosua, and she comes from Santiago. My 6 year regular lives in PP.
Endless posts on how good Rio, Thailand, Philippine are sounds like spam, don't add much to the info base here on how to roll in Sosua.
And that's what most posters check out this Sosua Forum for.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2575874]Most of the chicas in Sosua, come from SD, Santiago, PP and everywhere else. You can run into the same chicas in Boca Chica on any given weekend.
Of all the ladies I hang with, I know of only one, who actually lives in Sosua, and she comes from Santiago. My 6 year regular lives in PP.[/QUOTE]True! The women I meet with, typically come either from Pto Pta on one side and from Sabaneta etc, on the other but I know a few who live in La Union, and used to know people also from Charamicos etc. The thing is that there is still some form of shame in many girls and I know for a fact that some do not want to be seen walking the streets in Sosua also because of police hassle. Now if you are a pro or desperate, you may care less but some very attractive women, in the pre-covid days, used to scoot right up to the doorsteps of the disco, exactly because of those issues.
Damn who remembers these times [URL]https://youtu.be/B_AkXJETRrU[/URL].
Went to Bologna for dinner last night. Was quiet till a few families with screaming kids showed up. About half way through my pizza, a very attractive lady waked in and took a table solo across from me. Sure, pretty women need to eat too, but she was definitely a working girl.
I got her number as I walked out the door. Just my type. Thin, great smile.
My first time to the DR. Didn't know what to expect. I spent a few days out at Cabarete. A very nice resort town with a lot of good restaurants and cool kite surfers. In advance, I tried a few sites to see what bites I could make. Dominican Cupid worked fairly well. I'd say 30% of the women are serious, 30% are working girls looking for a customer. It was a bit more of a challenge to get them to go that far. Definitely check to see if the place is girl friendly ir not before giving it a try.
After 5. Days, I moved to a nice resort in Sosua. I didn't much care for the beach scene. Lots of not very attractive fat asses and dirty girls there. It was worth the walk to see the parade, just not my thing.
I found a couple of rather pushy ladies on the Cupid website were interesting. I wasn't really interested in them, so I pushed a bit asking if they had a friend. That hit pay dirt. I gave them $20 finders fee for delivering to order what I wanted. It was perfect. These were not regular working girls off the beach, rather ladies from the neighborhoods in Puerto Plata. Find one you like and she will be more than happy to be a referral partner.
The other surprise find was how effective Adult friend finder was there. After just a day, 20-30 nice looking women. Almost all are professional women. Same tactic, find one and ask about her friends.
I did find the casual girls frustrating in That they were almost always upset with the fee in the end and wanted to negotiate. So, I greatly recommend being very explicit in writing what you want, what you'll pay for. That will save you some heartache.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557]
After 5. Days, I moved to a nice resort in Sosua. I didn't much care for the beach scene. Lots of not very attractive fat asses and dirty girls there. It was worth the walk to see the parade, just not my thing.
I found a couple of rather pushy ladies on the Cupid website were interesting. I wasn't really interested in them, so I pushed a bit asking if they had a friend. That hit pay dirt. I gave them $20 finders fee for delivering to order what I wanted. It was perfect. These were not regular working girls off the beach, rather ladies from the neighborhoods in Puerto Plata. Find one you like and she will be more than happy to be a referral partner.
The other surprise find was how effective Adult friend finder was there. After just a day, 20-30 nice looking women. Almost all are professional women. Same tactic, find one and ask about her friends.
I did find the casual girls frustrating in That they were almost always upset with the fee in the end and wanted to negotiate. So, I greatly recommend being very explicit in writing what you want, what you'll pay for. That will save you some heartache.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay beside the $20 referral fee.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557]I did find the casual girls frustrating in That they were almost always upset with the fee in the end and wanted to negotiate. [/QUOTE]How much did you give them versus how much they wanted?
Thought I'the take a look in here just out of curiosity. I can't believe there are people still traveling to this shyt hole. LOL!! This place is laughable. And no I'm not recommending anything better so you guys can fuck that up the way you did Sosua. Hell no. 😂128514;128514;.
[QUOTE=Mongmann;2577015]Thought I'the take a look in here just out of curiosity. I can't believe there are people still traveling to this shyt hole. LOL!! This place is laughable. And no I'm not recommending anything better so you guys can fuck that up the way you did Sosua. Hell no. 😂128514;128514;.[/QUOTE]Ooh for Gods sake. Another douchebag that wasted bandwith and come to the Sosua board just to talk about how bad it is and how they not going to reveal where they go because sosua folks might blah blah blah. Disappointing, but not unexpected. * Seriously are you reading from the "why I hate sosua" script. Because I could've sworn I heard someone write this 10 yrs ago. Ooh well folks, just another day on the Sosua board so carry-on. I know I shouldn't have fed the troll but I was bored so I apologize now for when he replies back (hopefully it won't be 3 page essay reply) and waste more bandwith on the sosua board.
On a brighter note, good to see that this small little beach town is still alive and kicking because folks wouldn't keep talking about a town that's dead.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2576813]How much did you pay beside the $20 referral fee.[/QUOTE]I can tell you've been there a long time, you've developed an allergy to question marks. (Joke).
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557]. Dominican Cupid worked fairly well. I'd say 30% of the women are serious, 30% are working girls looking for a customer.. .[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. I've said it before but I always target the ones looking for a relationship, and my profile says I'm looking for a relationship. Why? Because when a chick comes to me, I want her to come to me because she wants to, not only because she's getting paid. (I'm not anti-prostitution, I'm 100% pro but there's a time and place for everything). I'm saying her expectations can and usually be easily changed without having to be lied to. Most of the time they're just shooting high anyway. My perfect sex holiday chica in Santo Domingo had a profile that said she don't do sex holidays. In my case I can say I'm looking for a relationship (because I actually like having a girlfriend, as long as she's extremely hot and doesn't bother me a lot). I simply say that if I find what I'm looking for, I'll come back. You're unlikely to break one of these poor Dominicana or Haitian's fragile hearts. Just don't make any stupid promises you don't intend to keep.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557] I didnt much care for the beach scene. Lots of not very attractive fat asses and dirty girls there. It was worth the walk to see the parade, just not my thing .[/QUOTE]I agree and disagree. A lot of fat asses (your picture number three? Jaja. Kidding man, thanks for the pics and report). But a lot of guys dig that. I met one along the beach strip that looked exactly like the typical hooker. She was sitting in a chair in front of a bar in about the middle. But to me she was hot and sexy and slim, with a perfect bubble. (Hatian). Dressed in a bikini top, hooker skirt, and just as slutty as can be. I stopped and said "Wao!" I said but I'm looking for a girlfriend, I hate that letchi papi shit. She said me too, I'm looking for a boyfriend. All this was in English, as she spoke almost no Spanish. She says she don't work there, she's there to visit her cousin. I already kind of knew her cousin, he serves me coffee in the afternoon and we are kind of friends. He tells me she is a good chick, and she isn't hooker. I told her I don't want to be rushed, I want her to come to me for 3 hours, and I don't want to talk about money. She said OK. So the next day I met her there at noon as planned. Took her to my place, and it was immediately on like a pot of chicken. I ate that pussy like a rat eats cheese. Had her in the 69 position, with her hands going, and my dick in her mouth. She ended up getting off real hard, quivering all over. She left a bit early (some bullshit excuse about it was her first time with a white man, and she had to get home for some stupid reason. So I gave her 2000 (maybe 1500?) pesos, she was happy and actually said thank you. It kind of pissed me off that she didn't stay longer so I dumped her. Otherwise I would have kept her on as a regular, like she wanted to do. But she broke the deal. Too bad. I'd end up seeing her walking around down there a week later with a couple other hot looking slutty Hatian ho's. I never saw her with a customer but she acted shocked when I told her I saw her friends walking with guys towards their short time hotel. I just laughed. My friends that live in Thailand call that GDHG (God damn hooker games) haha. Most of the other ones I had came from surrounding areas. But in my opinion, Sosua Proper is one of the worst places in the country to get the kind of chicks I like
But I do love that beach. For much of the year the wind comes out of the east at almost gale force. That's why Cabarette is windsurfing capital. I was at a beach restaurant in Puerta Plata and took a sip out of my cup and the wind blew it all over my shirt. Soaua faces west so it's protected and has nice offshore breeze with beautiful calm water when I was there. If you're a beach person like me, Sosua can be anything you make it. If you couldn't care less about beaches, why bother with the place. Stay in the capital, or another country for that matter.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557]. so I pushed a bit asking if they had a friend. That hit pay dirt. I gave them $20 finders fee for delivering to order what I wanted. It was perfect. These were not regular working girls off the beach, rather ladies from the neighborhoods in Puerto Plata. Find one you like and she will be more than happy to be a referral partner...[/QUOTE]This is a tactic I use all the time. I learned this from a good friend of mine, Barba, who used to write in the Davao thread years ago. He had top shelf handlers that would send him Facebook profiles upon request. He'the order in hot girls like ordering pizza.
I set up the meet with a Cupid date at Sosua Beach. I took one look at her and she was hideous. I knew right away I couldn't even talk to her because I didn't know what to say. And I sure in the fuck didn't want to buy her lunch for an hour, and waste time when I could do something useful like go swimming.
So I said just a minute please, I'll be right back. I went around the corner and prepared 500 pesos. (She walked so it didn't cost her anything to get there). I said I'm so sorry, I don't feel good. Something's wrong with my stomach. Take this please and get something to eat, and I indiscreetly slipped her the dough. Five minutes later she text and said I'm sorry you don't like me. I said thanks. Do you have any young friends, maybe around 18 with no babies please?
The next night she hooked me up with her little friend at 9 o'clock when she finished work at a tiny restaurant. It was coincidental because that happened after the incident I wrote about above with the Hatian. This girl was Hatian also so the day I had my first Hatian experience, I had two Haitians in one day. Another personal accomplishment. Yay. This chick stayed with me till about 11:30 instead of midnight. Nice grubbable pussy (after bath of course) no rubber (whatever the fuck that is). A good experience, first time she's been with a gringo. I gave her either 1500 or 2000 pesos to help her out, since she split a little early. She was happy. But I was a bit pissed because it happened twice in the same day, I'm not used to that. I lived in the Philippines for seven years. I assume she makes 300 or less for her entire shift. And supposedly she likes me. A side note on this girl. Poor thing is so stupid I pity her. I bounced back-and-forth between there and Puerto Plata for a month because there's way more girls living in Puerta Plata and you can get a nice apartment for cheap. So when I came back I assumed I'd see her. She text me and said she lost her job because of Covid layoffs. Said she had no money whatsoever and was muerto de hambre (starving to death) and could I help her. I said of course. I don't know why, but numbers came up and she knows I hate talking about money. I didn't like where it was going so I tested her. (I'm not a cheap scumbag, and I have a heart. And I know the going rate. Of course I would lay 3k on her in the end if she made me happy). I said do you want to come to me? Si. I said do you want to spend the entire afternoon with me, since you don't have to work? Si. I said would 1000 pesos help you? No. She said 3000. (or maybe it was 5k?) That don't fly with me. She would need to work at least 10 entire days, 10 hours a day in a shitty stinking restaurant to make 3 K. That's a good part of one month. Is she so repulsed by me, the guy that already treated her good and with respect, that she wouldn't even come to me unless I pay her 30 x more per hour than she makes at work? Fine. Fuck off. I blocked her. If you see any starved to death Haitian in the street that's her.
Another story. Another Cupid chick I was texting with, I said please stop sending me pictures of your baby and when you were pregnant. (Sorry preggos, I don't get it). I said don't you have any hot young friends with no babies? She sent me a picture of her 19-year-old sister. Holy Shit! This chick is hot. Pay dirt. Insane body, all her pictures she's wearing a belly shirt. And she's got a crackin body and a super pretty face. She's not virgin, but has only been shagged by two Dominican kids. And she's ready to fire it up. She was way down in Miches but came to me in 2 weeks. She wanted to move in but that wasn't going to happen, she stayed with her aunt in PP. So the point is that's a good way to get chicks that you'd otherwise never run across, and who don't play the circuit.
[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;2576557] I did find the casual girls frustrating in That they were almost always upset with the fee in the end and wanted to negotiate. So, I greatly recommend being very explicit in writing what you want.., .[/QUOTE]Yup. By doing what I described above you run the risk of putting yourself in a bad situation. This isn't the Philippines where the average chick isn't going to come flat out and ask for money after you shag. And it isn't like some Latin American countries were guys report that chicks may get pissed off if you try to give them money. For this reason I feel like DR could be a dangerous place. Not because of muggings or anything like that. But because it's 50 feet off the coast of Florida. And let's face it, many of these women and girls do not have a lot of class. What's the longest anyone can go without a DR chick asking for money. Three sentences? Three dates? Three weeks? I would not want any of these girls to know my passport name. And I would be extremely leery of a long-term relationship. Because one day she's going to inevitably need $1000. I wouldn't want any of these chicks thinking I owe them money.
I like what Mr. E said. Something like unless she's a hooker, he doesn't give them money. (Any country, I believe) My Filipina girlfriend, I brought her out of the dark ages and into the middle class because she never asked. You can agree in writing all you want with a Dominicana but it doesn't mean anything. Who you gonna complain to, the judge? The police? Jaja. Don't ever be fucking stupid enough to call the police if she decides to not leave. I had one actually tell me to call the police. Maybe she was bluffing, maybe not. I think it's a calculation they make. I'm talking about Sosua putas in this case. Let's say you agree on 3000 pesos and three hours. What you going to do if she gets up and goes to the bano after 90 minutes, then gets her shit ready to leave? I'm not going to want to give her the full 3 K. What if she plants herself on your couch? That sweet smiling sexy thing you met turns into a disgusting, cold-hearted professional extortionist. What if you didn't talk about money and she decides you owe her 5000? I'm sure they talk about it, strategize, and game it out.. What if this? What if he does that? I wouldn't be surprised if they have an online forum like ours. They can make as much per hour as a construction worker in San Diego by just sitting on your couch and demanding more money. What if you're in your beautiful Airbnb apartment? These are hypothetical questions, I know what to do. At least if you're in a place that gets their ID at the front you have more options.
If you're the type of guy that can get rocked up at the sight of brown, rubber up, and blow your nuts in a latex bag for $55, there's an endless supply. If you have a little bit of patience and a little bit of game, and you like beaches, Sosua can be whatever you make of it. But now I am rambling. By the way, I owe this forum a trip report on the four months I recently came off of. (Second visit, first time was 10 years ago) It could get long (and mostly unexciting to the average monger) so I'll probably just throw in bits for now, and do a shorter report later. Thanks to the senior members on this board for the kind words PM. And a super shout-out to Sub Cmdr, who bro'd me out like only a true friend would.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2577054].........You can agree in writing all you want with a Dominicana but it doesn't mean anything. Who you gonna complain to, the judge? The police? Jaja. Don't ever be fucking stupid enough to call the police if she decides to not leave. I had one actually tell me to call the police. Maybe she was bluffing, maybe not. I think it's a calculation they make. I'm talking about Sosua putas in this case. Let's say you agree on 3000 pesos and three hours. What you going to do if she gets up and goes to the bano after 90 minutes, then gets her shit ready to leave? I'm not going to want to give her the full 3 K. What if she plants herself on your couch? That sweet smiling sexy thing you met turns into a disgusting, cold-hearted professional extortionist. What if you didn't talk about money and she decides you owe her 5000? I'm sure they talk about it, strategize, and game it out.. What if this? What if he does that? I wouldn't be surprised if they have an online forum like ours. They can make as much per hour as a construction worker in San Diego by just sitting on your couch and demanding more money. What if you're in your beautiful Airbnb apartment? These are hypothetical questions, I know what to do. At least if you're in a place that gets their ID at the front you have more options......[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, SAM 14.
I got a couple of takeaways from it.
You can avoid the main area of complaints, using the "referral" system.
1. I only fuck friends of friends who I know and trust.
2. I would never have a strange street chica in my room, at home, in Sosua, or anywhere else. That's asking for trouble, right there. No matter how hot she looks.
Once, 6 years ago, I had a few beers, got a little buzz on and grabbed one off the street, and took her back to my place, Terra Linda. Great session, but she wanted a propina, and didn't want to leave until she got one. I let her sit there for 15 minutes, and pretended to call security. I said to the phone, if she's not down to pick up her ID in 10 minutes send security up and call the cops. She understood. I said relax, lets wait for the cops, or I can give you 400 pesos if you leave now. I was smiling and she decided to take my offer. I would have given her a 500 peso propina anyway for the great session. She left.
$8 for a learning experience never to be repeated.
If you must have that hot stranger, take her to a nuetral location, there's lots of rooms on the strip for 400/500 pesos per hour. Bar Central and love motel Dulce Secreta, so if things go bad, the room is paid in advance, and you can just walk out and leave her to security.
Always worked for me.
[QUOTE=Mongmann;2577015]Thought I'the take a look in here just out of curiosity. I can't believe there are people still traveling to this shyt hole. LOL!! This place is laughable. And no I'm not recommending anything better so you guys can fuck that up the way you did Sosua. Hell no. 😂128514;128514;.[/QUOTE]Are you guys still talking that gay stuff? I'm not gay; I'm just here to see what you guys are doing? Do you guys see how contradictory that sounds? You are entitled an opinion sir, but no one ask you for your recommendation. Long live Sosua! The good, the bad, and the ugly.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2577054]I've said it before but I always target the ones looking for a relationship, and my profile says I'm looking for a relationship. Why? Because when a chick comes to me, I want her to come to me because she wants to, not only because she's getting paid. (I'm not anti-prostitution, I'm 100% pro but there's a time and place for everything). I'm saying her expectations can and usually be easily changed without having to be lied to. Most of the time they're just shooting high anyway. [/QUOTE]Brother you are exactly right. After 16 years on the Cupid websites I have developed a knack to weed through what they say. The chicks that are as you say will instantly start off saying how they are looking for a serious relationship, while a chick that is really looking for a serious relationship will just have a normal conversation. It is like they are trying to bait the love starved guys.
So when I receive a first message about some serious relationship stuff, I will answer back saying sorry I am just looking for fun (aventura). They jump on it like fish when you throw breadcrumbs into water. Well that is no problem I can do that too. These chicks can not fool me mayne.
[QUOTE=Sam 14;2577054]In my case I can say I'm looking for a relationship (because I actually like having a girlfriend, as long as she's extremely hot and doesn't bother me a lot). I simply say that if I find what I'm looking for, I'll come back. You're unlikely to break one of these poor Dominicana or Haitian's fragile hearts. Just don't make any stupid promises you don't intend to keep.[/QUOTE]Yep. I always tell them that it depends on them. I don't just fuck chicks and ditch them. I remain friends with them unless they start some bullshit. Chick that I mess with in Colombia started some bullshit yesterday. I did something that I do not usually do and told her what day and what time I was coming (she was the one begging me to come - I even got a hotel outside of downtown this time because she is terrified to go there). When I get here at 9pm she does not answer my messages. I said okay after you can not say anything.
No problem for me. I called my nurse chick that will come at the drop of a hat. So yesterday morning about 6 the chick was blowing up my phone while me and the nurse were trying to sleep. I blocked her. Then she started sending messages from a Venezuelan number apologizing and saying to give her one more chance. Blocked that. Then she went and made a new profile and saw me on Cupid and started talking shit saying that is why you do not talk, you are on here looking for chicks. Blocked that.
[QUOTE=Sam 14;2577054]She text me and said she lost her job because of Covid layoffs. Said she had no money whatsoever and was muerto de hambre (starving to death) and could I help her. I said would 1000 pesos help you? No. She said 3000. (or maybe it was 5k?) That don't fly with me. She would need to work at least 10 entire days, 10 hours a day in a shitty stinking restaurant to make 3 K. [/QUOTE]Cupid chick in Medellin tried that one on me a couple days ago. She was all starving and her kid was sick. When I asked how much she said $200. Bich the minumum wage here is $213 for 1 month. All I could do was laugh and delete her. Do mfs really fall for this stuff?
Sosua:
Well its official. I am going to Sousa. After considering between Boca Chica or Sosua I went with Sosua.
This will be my first trip to the Carribean!
Background info:
Mid 30's Mexican American male who has extensively been to the German FKKs and Zona Norte Tijuana. Speak fluent Spanish so at least there won't be a language barrier other than maybe with the Haitians from what I've heard.
Plan:
I booked a hotel for a week and have been talking with girls on WhatsApp already thanks to a few youtubers who have hooked me up with numbers.
$100 for 3 hours are the rates I have been getting from the girls who have sent excellent pictures.
I am considering checking out the beach and streets to see if I can find better rates to enjoy the company of more women.
I was planning to go to bailees also after seeing many great girls there on YouTube videos.
Feel free to PM me or comment if you'll be there too during that time as well!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2577142]Sosua:
Well its official. I am going to Sousa. After considering between Boca Chica or Sosua I went with Sosua.
This will be my first trip to the Carribean!
Background info:
Mid 30's Mexican American male who has extensively been to the German FKKs and Zona Norte Tijuana. Speak fluent Spanish so at least there won't be a language barrier other than maybe with the Haitians from what I've heard.
Plan:
I booked a hotel for a week and have been talking with girls on WhatsApp already thanks to a few youtubers who have hooked me up with numbers.
$100 for 3 hours are the rates I have been getting from the girls who have sent excellent pictures.
I am considering checking out the beach and streets to see if I can find better rates to enjoy the company of more women.
I was planning to go to bailees also after seeing many great girls there on YouTube videos.
Feel free to PM me or comment if you'll be there too during that time as well!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Wait, if you speak fluent spanish there should be NO way on earth you should be paying 100 dollars. Especially for just 3 hours. That should be cut in half. BTW you should ALWAYS talk in peso. So if a female quotes a 100 usd to you that should be a instant RED flag. And a high probability that she's a hardcore puta looking for a quick money grab. Start negotiations with half the cost for 3 hrs, 2800 peso (which is 50 dollars at 56 to a 1 usd) and go from there. Keep in mind when negotiating that going up an extra 500 pesos (8 bucks) could mean alot to them which in term could be better service on her part. But since you speak spanish you're light years ahead of the game. You're going to naturally slip and fall into pussy as soon as you land LOL. Hell I got the American Airlines security guard number leaving DR the other day and I speak like a 2 yr old in spanish.
Have fun at the beach and check out Malibu bar (they have a locker just incase you want to go for a swim in the ocean), zanzibar and Big DS bbq. Baileys will be a great spot for you to see all the lady curves sosua has to offer while you eat a great meal. And if you get a little adventurous and want to see what lays outside the small town head to cabarete and check out the mojoito bar on the beach. Youll also see and come across some ladies there as well.
Be safe, enjoy the Carribean madness and report back your journey.
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2577142]I booked a hotel for a week and have been talking with girls on WhatsApp already thanks to a few youtubers who have hooked me up with numbers. $100 for 3 hours are the rates I have been getting from the girls who have sent excellent pictures. I am considering checking out the beach and streets to see if I can find better rates[/QUOTE]You don't call down to the dealership and ask them how much for a new Cadillac (as you are doing by whatsapping chicks without boots on the ground), because you will get the MSRP aka sucker price. You show up with money in your pocket and say how much for this new Cadillac? That is too much. I will give you $35,000 cash right now.
Please read Sam 14's post down below to determine if it makes sense to pay 5700 pesos for 3 hours (which will turn into 45 minutes once they leche papi you to death and make excuses of why they have to leave with 100% payment for 25% of the promised time - at which time you will end up giving them 150% of the payment because you are scared that the police will get involved and ruin your vacation).
[QUOTE=Sam14;2577054]She would need to work at least 10 entire days, 10 hours a day in a shitty stinking restaurant to make 3 K.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2577142]I was planning to go to bailees also after seeing many great girls there on YouTube videos.[/QUOTE]I tell guys to stay off of youtube. It is fucking with your mind and giving you high expectations of something you will find in reality to be mundane. Bailee's is just a restaurant. If you search this thread you will find that the only thing people have done at Bailee's is to eat, not to look at chicks, not to pick up chicks. Since you are a TJ vet, think about the taco stand down on the corner from Hong Kong. Would you really say that you are planning to go to that taco stand when you get to TJ because of chicks you saw passing by there on youtube? Same thing.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2577161]Wait, if you speak fluent spanish there should be NO way on earth you should be paying 100 dollars. Especially for just 3 hours. That should be cut in half..[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the response coolie.
I agree I should be getting the price of locals LOL.
I will take notes of everything you mentioned.
Thank you so much for the response!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2577165] Would you really say that you are planning to go to that taco stand when you get to TJ because of chicks you saw passing by there on youtube? Same thing.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr Enternational. You are right.
I will take everything you said into my notes and change my approach.
I really appreciate your response.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2577142]Sosua:
Well its official. I am going to Sousa. After considering between Boca Chica or Sosua I went with Sosua.
This will be my first trip to the Carribean!
Background info:
Mid 30's Mexican American male who has extensively been to the German FKKs and Zona Norte Tijuana. Speak fluent Spanish so at least there won't be a language barrier other than maybe with the Haitians from what I've heard.
Plan:
I booked a hotel for a week and have been talking with girls on WhatsApp already thanks to a few youtubers who have hooked me up with numbers.
$100 for 3 hours are the rates I have been getting from the girls who have sent excellent pictures.
I am considering checking out the beach and streets to see if I can find better rates to enjoy the company of more women.
I was planning to go to bailees also after seeing many great girls there on YouTube videos.
Feel free to PM me or comment if you'll be there too during that time as well!
Thanks![/QUOTE]1. I would never book a hotel for the whole week. What if you get there and you don't like the policies or the hotel? You're stuck there. There's nothing wrong with renting for two or three days, then extending your stay or change location. It's not like there's A shortage of available rooms in the city.
2. $100 for three hours? Have you discussed what type of performances you expect? Have you been doing your homework? Where are you getting these prices? From the chica? You should get familiar with the current market value. I'll help you 2000 - 3500 (PESOS) ST. And 3000 - 5000 tln.
3. Become familiar with the language. You have many of us beat in that department.
Most chicas do not judge you on how well you speak Spanish. They judge you on how you negotiate. Promising to pay them in dollars is a keen sign of someone that does not understand their culture. It also correlates with an opportunity for fuckery. Did you hear about the video where the guy promised the girls $100 and then she tried to push the price to $150. She wasn't taking no for an answer.
The first thing that came to mind was why the hell is he paying her dollars. No wonder he's in a predicament.
Listen newbies to the Sue. Dominican chicas Love passive men. They enjoy men that do not understand their game. They love taking advantage of them. Nothing personal it's business. However, they respect masculinity. They are less likely to give you trouble if you seem like you are Confidence and know what you're doing.
Imagine a young lady going to a car lot but not knowing the Wholesale value of the car she's buying. After a few questions, the sales person knows the level of understanding of the person buying the car. If he gives her an over priced retail value and she excepted; it's nothing personal. Most of us here are wholesalers and you are tell us about retail prices. I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2577054]I can tell you've been there a long time, you've developed an allergy to question marks. (Joke).
That sounds about right. I've said it before but I always target the ones looking for a relationship, and my profile says I'm looking for a relationship. Why? Because when a chick comes to me, I want her to come to me because she wants to, not only because she's getting paid. (I'm not anti-prostitution, I'm 100% pro but there's a time and place for everything). I'm saying her expectations can and usually be easily changed without having to be lied to. Most of the time they're just shooting high anyway.
[/QUOTE]I tell you you were missed Mr E are the worst kind. These poor chicas I think they're getting a guy who's looking for a serious relationship, and you guys playing on "loving them and leaving them" just like the rest of us. The difference between some of us and you guys is no bullshitting. It's all business and understanding with us. Jabbing Jokes.
I tell you if some of those Doctors, dentists, lawyers, pilots, astronauts, first ladies, scientist and everything else under the moon chicas Mr E has knew how many he really had; They would hang a warning picture of him in every airport from Maine to Spain. 16 years on Cupid looking for the serious ones and you don't plan on being serious! My ninja.
That's too much energy for me. I smoke weed. I stick with the Amiga con benefito approach. I said this with all jokingly humor. But seriously. We all develop our styles and what works for us.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2577391]
. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Grownman1.
Thank you so much for your response.
1. I made sure that the hotel I booked was guest friendly but you're right I should have split it into different ones in case it doesn't work out in my favor. First mistake.
2. I asked around and messaged certain youtubers and IG folks what the current rates are and that's what they gave me. Mistake number 2 as they are likely getting a commission from those girls. Good thing is I didn't agree to any meetings with the girls just simply asked. I didn't get into details with them for what the $100 would cover and I now see that it won't workout for me in the end thanks to you, Mr Enternational and Coolie High. I certainly won't be making the mistake of paying $100!
2000 - 3500 (PESOS) ST. And 3000 - 5000 tln. Thank you for these numbers. I will not budge from these numbers and if the girls don't agree then hey more money in my pocket at the end. I was actually thinking of increasing my budget after getting the $100 suggestions but now I will be able to stick to my original budget thanks to you all!
3. Yes I did see that video and how the police had to get involved. Definitely don't want that happening which shouldn't now thanks to you three!
Once again thank you so much Grownman1 for this response. I will make many adjustments to my plan now after reading all of your excellent pointers.
Thank you also to Mr Entertainment and Coolie High for all of your help as well.
I can't wait to land in Sosua and apply all that you have recommend to me.
Thanks again everyone!
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2577051]Ooh for Gods sake. Another douchebag that wasted bandwith and come to the Sosua board just to talk about how bad it is and how they not going to reveal where they go because sosua folks might blah blah blah. Disappointing, but not unexpected. * Seriously are you reading from the "why I hate sosua" script. Because I could've sworn I heard someone write this 10 yrs ago. Ooh well folks, just another day on the Sosua board so carry-on. I know I shouldn't have fed the troll but I was bored so I apologize now for when he replies back (hopefully it won't be 3 page essay reply) and waste more bandwith on the sosua board.
On a brighter note, good to see that this small little beach town is still alive and kicking because folks wouldn't keep talking about a town that's dead.[/QUOTE]Alive and kicking? 😂128514;128514; I was literally on here and noticed that this thread was regularly being updated in my saved threads. I said holy shit there are still people going to Sosua? Sorry to hurt your feelings but this place has been a shit hole for years. My last trip there like a few years ago just had me shaking my head. To say it's a shell of itself is a huge understatement. I really feel sorry for anyone that thinks this place is a good look. But carry on, enjoy your great time.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2577411]I tell you you were missed Mr E are the worst kind. These poor chicas I think they're getting a guy who's looking for a serious relationship, and you guys playing on "loving them and leaving them" just like the rest of us. The difference between some of us and you guys is no bullshitting. I tell you if some of those Doctors, dentists, lawyers, pilots, astronauts, first ladies, scientist and everything else under the moon chicas Mr E has knew how many he really had; They would hang a warning picture of him in every airport from Maine to Spain..[/QUOTE]That's funny. I said something like that about Dumaguete, the worst place in the Philippines for hot girls in my opinion. Their parents have been warning them from birth to watch out for our type letching around.
But I know you're joking GM, it's all cool.
But just in case anyone misunderstands. I said the important part is to not bullshit anyone. I said you can still be honest, and their expectations are easily adjusted. They still have the option to keep their legs closed. Just don't make any stupid promises you don't intend to keep.
A few examples; As I said, my Santo Domingo sex holiday chica explicitly wrote on her profile she don't do sex holidays. She even pretended like she didn't have a phone. After our first meet she suddenly coughed up a phone. I told her I'm looking for a relationship because I'm looking for a relationship. I like having a girlfriend that comes back. The only difference is we didn't shag on the first time. That's fine with me because she hadn't had sex in 5 months. She's not shagging every goofball on Cupid that offers her money. That would probably be about 30 offers a day she turns down. There was that awkward moment we were sitting on the couch. I was kissing her tummy a bit and licking her lower back. She was just sitting there frozen. Finally she couldn't handle it and looked at me and said in English with a sexy accent "what do you want". I said I want to lick your snatch. It was all wet and gooey and smelled good and she went nuts. She knew I was only there on holiday, I never lied. The second time we shagged, and after that she would come for all day sessions, then I'd make her tacos or something for dinner. Her only concern was whether or not I could get her pregnant. I said if you do get pregnant, name the baby either Hercules or Jesus. Because I had a vasectomy 20 years ago. It worked out great for her also because she wasn't working other than her small business. She needed money for supplies. So whenever she left my place she had an extra 2000 pesos in her purse. That helped her a lot. We never talked about money and she never asked. I think she even said gracias once or twice. She never fell in love with me and I never fell in love with her. When I left I said it was because I wanted to live at the beach. She didn't cry. And by the time I came back she was already dating someone. She was 19, pretty face, natural hair, no babies and no tattoos. That's the way I like it. She loved to make out and she super loved the 7 inch vibrator. We still keep in touch and are friends.
There's more like this but just one more; Puerto Plata. In my opinion she was about the hottest one on the Cupid site. Her profile said serious relationship only. I thought we would meet in public but she said she'll date me and my apartment. She shows up, and oh my goodness. She is a professional salsa dancer. 22? No babies. She gets 300 peso per show and spends most of her days in rehearsal. She's wearing this short skirt, and had this insane round butt. (Hatian). Pretty mug. Perfect white teeth. Sleeveless tank top with these beautiful little A or be cups. Kind of half unshaven under the arms, I almost had a fuckin heart attack. So I got the two chairs and we're face-to-face talking. Soon it went to English because her English is better than my Spanish. I got both hands on her legs moving up to the butt. The date was over fast but I expected that. I told her I didn't expect sex, I just wanted to get to know each other.
The next day we were texting and she said I was mui cerca (very close). I said this is going to move way too slowly, I can't handle it. She said she has a dream in life. I said I know, family, kids, blah blah blah. She said "no, I want to have my own business. I need $300. We can have sex as long as we use condom". Haha. So here we go, my book idea if I was a writer; How To Talk To a Prostitute That isn't a Prostitute. I won't bore you with the fucking 90 minutes it took. But at one point she said fine, forget it. Because I so crudely used the word "pay". She said if you want to help someone, you do it because you want to. I said right. You're the one looking for a relationship. If you want to air out that pussy, you do it because you want to. Haha. Jesus. Anyway, 3000 pesos. Three hours. No rubber. She didn't stick around long enough to collect the full $300. That actually makes me sad. Same thing with another one I couldn't hardly touch on the first date. Until she needed a new washer. (Pic below). It was the most perfect bubble I ever remember having my face in. And I've been to four African countries. She didn't cry either. But didnt get her washer either. I'm actually the one that got hurt. She only used me. :(
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2577411] Thats too much energy for me. I smoke weed. I stick with the Amiga con benefito approach..[/QUOTE]Jaja. I can dig it. I cannot answer the phone if I take a hit, much less talk to a girl in person. I have a lot of time, and at this point in my life this is my main hobby. I want to be good at it and I'm willing to do a lot of extra work. And I can even go some days or even longer without pussy. My gig is quality over quantity. I wish it was still like 1999 in Koh Samui where you could barfine a smoking hot 18-year-old right out of the village for $16. But it isn't. So now I have to work harder.
Hey, I'm looking for suggestions for small gifts I can bring from NYC.
I've got some locals lined up through Tagged, probably including some non-pros and semi-pros. On my last trip I bought my favorite a baseball cap and bathing suit from street stands, and occasionally I'd give her 500 pesos. She was really excited about the gifts. It can be fun to shop with them, but tedious sometimes. And haggling price with the vendor is kind of awkward (though necessary).
I was thinking of ordering $20 sunglasses on Amazon to bring with me. Any other thoughts?
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2583098]Hey, I'm looking for suggestions for small gifts I can bring from NYC.
I've got some locals lined up through Tagged, probably including some non-pros and semi-pros. On my last trip I bought my favorite a baseball cap and bathing suit from street stands, and occasionally I'd give her 500 pesos. She was really excited about the gifts. It can be fun to shop with them, but tedious sometimes. And haggling price with the vendor is kind of awkward (though necessary).
I was thinking of ordering $20 sunglasses on Amazon to bring with me. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]It's been a few years for me, but I believe $20 is too much. Cheap $1-3 jewelry, small perfumes (you know from those gift sets with 5 small samples, they love them!). When you feel grateful for a good performance, give them something like that instead of a propina.
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2583098]Hey, I'm looking for suggestions for small gifts I can bring from NYC. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]The girls love cash as small gifts!
BTW, if you see this chica, ask her if she still has my comb!
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2583098]I was thinking of ordering $20 sunglasses on Amazon to bring with me. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]$20 sunglasses? The last pair of sunglass that I bought on the street in Santo Domingo cost me $3.
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2583098]Hey, I'm looking for suggestions for small gifts I can bring from NYC.
I've got some locals lined up through Tagged, probably including some non-pros and semi-pros. On my last trip I bought my favorite a baseball cap and bathing suit from street stands, and occasionally I'd give her 500 pesos. She was really excited about the gifts. It can be fun to shop with them, but tedious sometimes. And haggling price with the vendor is kind of awkward (though necessary).
I was thinking of ordering $20 sunglasses on Amazon to bring with me. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]Brought lingerie in the past, helps them to make more money with other folks. Also don't forget their family, boyfriends and young ones. Some bring baseball equipment and good whiskey to build connections.
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2583098]Hey, I'm looking for suggestions for small gifts I can bring from NYC.
I've got some locals lined up through Tagged, probably including some non-pros and semi-pros. On my last trip I bought my favorite a baseball cap and bathing suit from street stands, and occasionally I'd give her 500 pesos. She was really excited about the gifts. It can be fun to shop with them, but tedious sometimes. And haggling price with the vendor is kind of awkward (though necessary).
I was thinking of ordering $20 sunglasses on Amazon to bring with me. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]$20 sunglasses seems like a waste of money. Especially when the DR has cheap knock off glasses for under five dollars. Go to Citi trends And grab a few seven to $10 dresses. You can mix in shirts and shorts. Or small portable chargers and Speakers are excellent gifts. I usually grab about 10 pairs of underwear or cheap socks.
Scented lotion is a popular GIF.
Walmart has a travel item area. They have small sprays for females. The only cost about $. 99 but they're excellent for a gifts.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2583440]$20 sunglasses seems like a waste of money. Especially when the DR has cheap knock off glasses for under five dollars. [/QUOTE]Make sure your cheap knock off glasses have UV protection. Otherwise they will provide sun shade only, yet open your pupils and let in all the UV that will harm your eyes.
Some sunglasses have a tag on the lenses that say "UV Protection" however even these tags can be counterfeited. I ask my optician to check them under his microscope and tell me if they are safe to wear.
Do many of the hotel workers and restaurant workers speak any English or is it like in Medellin where pretty much no one does?
My first post here but a 12 year SR Member on the sister site. I've got a layover coming up in Puerto Plata for a night the first week of August. I'd like to not have to deal with taxi / uber and just have a driver on call for a few hours to get us from the airport to house, stores, chicas, etc. Can anybody local recommend somebody reliable?
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2584306]Do many of the hotel workers and restaurant workers speak any English or is it like in Medellin where pretty much no one does?[/QUOTE]Yes, many do but certainly not all.
[QUOTE=KingForANight;2584403]My first post here but a 12 year SR Member on the sister site. I've got a layover coming up in Puerto Plata for a night the first week of August. I'd like to not have to deal with taxi / uber and just have a driver on call for a few hours to get us from the airport to house, stores, chicas, etc. Can anybody local recommend somebody reliable?[/QUOTE]Rigoberto Reyes.
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Spent few days in SD and Sue. I flew into SD on Spirit using air miles great deal. I paid 35 for the big front seat. I do this. So I can be first in the immigration line. In lesss then 10 minutes I was walkng out of the airport. Spent 2 days with a chica I have known for a few years. Stayed in an awesome airbnb $52 a night. After enjoying great sex with my girl I rolled out to the Sue Caribe tours. Hit the ground in the Sue last Friday girls everywhere. No perceptiple night life but between Kings amd Baileys you can find girls to go. Had 3 new girls who were keepers. My return flight was out of SD on Sunday. Normally I go back to SD the day before I leave. However there is 5 am Sunday morning bus that takes 3 and a half hour ride. I was eating breakfast at Grands by 9 am. Having Airbnb and Uber is a game changer. Ran into a scamer chica who tried to pony up again
[QUOTE=OldKool;2585442]Spent few days in SD and Sue. I flew into SD on Spirit using air miles great deal. I paid 35 for the big front seat. [/QUOTE]How is the Spirit flying experience? I fly Jetblue because it is non stop but way more expensive and I am peeved because they have now started nickel and diming. That is why I am curious about Spirit and if I recall you always fly them.
Thanks in advance.
Curfew is still 11 pm weekdays and weekends.
It's usually slow here in low season, but there has been an uptick in visitors from the USA, as travel restrictions are lifted, and more flights are coming in to PP.
It is anticipated that more visitors will start to arrive in numbers between now and Christmas, when Canadian and Europe airlines start flying again into Puerto Plata. There's a pent up demand for travel.
In what I call midtown, the once seedy area between Europa and Ahnvee, apartments and condo rentals are filling up and prices are rising. Sales are picking up too.
Owners and entrepreneurs are betting on a pent up demand for travel, particularly from Europe and Canada. They are renovating old properties, and derelict bars are reopening, notably, Captains Table and Rancho Tipico which is drawing a good crowd in the evenings. The old CMP is now a new apartment hotel. Bars in the area include the aforementioned, plus Cheers, Plan be, Jabila, with live bands and and DJs so there's a good mix of music and dancing. (Note to CoolieHigh, one of your harem is new manager at Rancho Tipico).
The chicas around the bars here are more discreet, they come in pairs and buy their own drinks.
All part of the Grand Plan to relocate the chica action from downtown Pedro.
Downtown, we still have King's, Meringue, Mamajuana, Bar Central and the smaller bars, and the street action is still mainly around the Dr Rosen corner, up to New Garden, all the way to Alicia Bar and Fraggle Rock.
But the plan to make Sosua "family friendly" is failing miserably. Downtown is building it's 4th large Chinese dollar emporium within a two block area. That's not the kind of attraction families are looking for, and there'll be no rich cruise ship widows coming to pick up cheap ashtrays and flip flops.
Mayor Willy has done a decent job with tree planting, cleaning up garbage, repairing sidewalks and covering up eyesores.
But families today are looking for all-inclusive properties on the beach, where they and their kids have all the amenities. Punta Cana and Puerto Plata provide that in spades.
The only AI hotel here is Casa Marina, but it's mostly adults, not kids.
Sosua is not dying, just changing with the times.
Spirit nickles and dimes with the best of them. They charge for both carry on and checked bags. I have seen people show up with carry on bag told it will cost 90 dollars to take that bag on the flight. They go nuts and Spirit sticks to its policy, However once you learn how to manage your travel this will not be an issue. The good, Spirit has excellent departure and arrival times. They get me from DC area to SD by 1 pm. Departure from SD is around 2 pm which works well for me. The cost of the Spirit flights 150 less then most airlines. I have a spirit credit card so my miles add up. You can get a round trip sometimes for 10,000 miles. So far this year my miles have gotten me 3 free trips. I do not need to be wined and dined on a plane. I can buy own snacks and 2 hours sitting on a plane is not a problem. And closing I make Spirit my B@tch because I know how to use its perks of which there are plenty. I once flew to ATL for 50 dollars round trip.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2586190]How is the Spirit flying experience? I fly Jetblue because it is non stop but way more expensive and I am peeved because they have now started nickel and diming. That is why I am curious about Spirit and if I recall you always fly them.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2586190]How is the Spirit flying experience?[/QUOTE]Just make sure to bring either your boxing gloves or your referee shirt.
[URL]https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/another-fight-between-spirit-passengers-caught-on-camera-as-women-scuffle-before-flight-to-detroit[/URL]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2586420]
Owners and entrepreneurs are betting on a pent up demand for travel, particularly from Europe and Canada. They are renovating old properties, and derelict bars are reopening, notably, Captains Table and Rancho Tipico which is drawing a good crowd in the evenings. The old CMP is now a new apartment hotel. Bars in the area include the aforementioned, plus Cheers, Plan be, Jabila, with live bands and and DJs so there's a good mix of music and dancing. (Note to CoolieHigh, one of your harem is new manager at Rancho Tipico)[/QUOTE]Yeah I believe she was originally from your harem hermano. You had so many bi chicas that you gave me your hand me down hunnies LOL. But yeah I've been talking to her and she was tellin me that the tips are hit or miss for her because theres so many ladies working there. But I'm hoping it gets busier for her. She honestly has great customer service skills. If she could master learning english she could easily double or triple her salary working at a resort etc.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2586759]Yeah I believe she was originally from your harem hermano. You had so many bi chicas that you gave me your hand me down hunnies LOL. But yeah I've been talking to her and she was tellin me that the tips are hit or miss for her because theres so many ladies working there. But I'm hoping it gets busier for her. She honestly has great customer service skills. If she could master learning english she could easily double or triple her salary working at a resort etc.[/QUOTE]It's not just my imagination, business is really picking up in Sosua.
Yesterday, decided to take my long suffering GF who cooks all my food and does my laundry to a rare decent restaurant meal.
Went to Baylee's but couldn't get in, not even a table at the back.
They had them lined up for a half hour wait at the side door. This was at noon Saturday, in the middle of summer, fer chrissakes!
Walked over to Don Andres, past Bologna and Romano. All were busy.
Food at Don Andre disappointing.
I was there a few weeks ago. Baileys is ground zero for hooking up with the girls. I am not sure how busy the sue really is but there are not many places to hang out other then the beach. In order to gt into Baileys girls have to be dressed properly. The skanks tend not to have the cash buy a beer or a meal. I have no clue what the night life is about now. The Casino at playa chiquita is open.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2587220]It's not just my imagination, business is really picking up in Sosua.
Yesterday, decided to take my long suffering GF who cooks all my food and does my laundry to a rare decent restaurant meal.
Went to Baylee's but couldn't get in, not even a table at the back.
They had them lined up for a half hour wait at the side door. This was at noon Saturday, in the middle of summer, fer chrissakes!
Walked over to Don Andres, past Bologna and Romano. All were busy.
Food at Don Andre disappointing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2586612]Spirit nickles and dimes with the best of them. [/QUOTE]Thank you for your thoughts.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2587376]I was there a few weeks ago. Baileys is ground zero for hooking up with the girls. I am not sure how busy the sue really is but there are not many places to hang out other then the beach. In order to gt into Baileys girls have to be dressed properly. The skanks tend not to have the cash buy a beer or a meal. I have no clue what the night life is about now. The Casino at playa chiquita is open.[/QUOTE]The line up at Baylee had nothing to do with how we were dressed. Just that the place was packed.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2586190]How is the Spirit flying experience? I fly Jetblue because it is non stop but way more expensive and I am peeved because they have now started nickel and diming. That is why I am curious about Spirit and if I recall you always fly them.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Spirit airlines cancelled 34 flights August 1 and left people stranded at FLL. Orlando also had problems with Spirit cancelling flights. Not to mention the ugliest flight attendants, rough flight and extras cost money from water to peanuts.
As you and I talked about recently Tempo, JetBlue is the best but their prices to the Dominican Republic have gone from 220 usd rt, to 600 usd rt. Free baggage carry-ons plus one checked if you have the True Blue credit card.
American cancelled my last flight and rescheduled me for 2 days later without even offering a cash voucher. I remember once the over booked the MIA to POP flight and gave me a 800 usd voucher for flying over the next day, plus a hotel room in Miami. This was many years ago.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2587865]Spirit airlines cancelled 34 flights August 1 and left people stranded at FLL. Orlando also had problems with Spirit cancelling flights. Not to mention the ugliest flight attendants, rough flight and extras cost money from water to peanuts.[/QUOTE]Nothing compared to Aug 2. I guess T will need more than that referee shirt. Gonna need a whole SWAT team.
[URL]https://liveandletsfly.com/spirit-airlines-collapses/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2587865]
American cancelled my last flight and rescheduled me for 2 days later without even offering a cash voucher. I remember once the over booked the MIA to POP flight and gave me a 800 usd voucher for flying over the next day, plus a hotel room in Miami. This was many years ago.[/QUOTE]American airlines has been pretty bad lately. I flew american airlines 4 times this year and for all 4 flights I had long delays. My flight to puerto plata got changed to santiago now.
I wish delta was flying to puerto plata, I rarely get issues with delta.
I'm in AA platinum card holder. I also have the Citibank card. I usually roll with them because I get priority boarding (for me and my friends) plus one free bag. Last vacation they completely dropped the ball. I miss my connecting flight due to the pilot stating they were waiting on a part for the plane. I get into Miami and they said I had a eight hour wait and the only thing they could do was give me a food voucher.
I wasn't by myself apparently about 80 other people missed their flights. We were all in a long line waiting to get rescheduled. When I finally got to the attendant after waiting in the line for two hours, they wanted to fly me to Las Vegas or something like that. That was going to be another 10 hour delay. I argue with them and told them I'm not sleeping at the airport and I should have a room. I told the flight attendant the pilot came over the intercom and apologize for them not having a part for the plane it had nothing to do with the weather. She then gave me a voucher for a hotel room in Miami. Mind you my flight was just 4 1/2 hours away but I didn't care I wanted to sleep even if it was for two hours.
They put me in a $250 room a night. They gave me a meal voucher however the only thing open was subway (It was about 12:30 AM). When I looked at the line in the airport it was probably 85 people deep. They are going to run out of food because there are about 60 people behind me waiting to get their voucher.
I had to book me a flight the next morning from Miami to the DR. Get to the DR and American Airlines doesn't have my bags and will not have it until the next day. Two people I travel with both left on separate times with American Airlines and both experience cancellations and delays.
Given the choice I will still take American Airlines over Spirit.
I have made 6 flights on Spirit 2 on American this year. For me the bottom line is price and convenience. I get both from Spirit. I live in DC area my arrival time to the DR Santo Domingo is 1 to 3 pm which is excellent for me. Departure times are early afternoon which is also very good for me. I do not need free peanuts or water. I have the Spirit credit card which gets me some decent perks. Once you learn how to fly Spirit you will have few problems. No cancel flights so far. I will be flying them tommorrow.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2587999]American airlines has been pretty bad lately. I flew american airlines 4 times this year and for all 4 flights I had long delays. My flight to puerto plata got changed to santiago now.
I wish delta was flying to puerto plata, I rarely get issues with delta.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2587865]Spirit airlines cancelled 34 flights August 1 and left people stranded at FLL. Orlando also had problems with Spirit cancelling flights. Not to mention the ugliest flight attendants, rough flight and extras cost money from water to peanuts.[/QUOTE]Holy cow! I also read Mr. E's link. Just plain scary and to think, last year, when I flew to the DR in July, once the flight freeze was over, it was a breeze with middle seat empty etc.
For the longest time, I have been flying Jetblue, essentially because it is non-stop to STI and yes, paying top dollars even without a checked bag but I guess, it is better than having to deal with what you guys and Grown Man described.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2587394]The line up at Baylee had nothing to do with how we were dressed. Just that the place was packed.[/QUOTE]I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone goes to Bailey's -It is absolutely the worst service on the entire island.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2588324]Holy cow! I also read Mr. E's link. Just plain scary and to think, last year, when I flew to the DR in July, once the flight freeze was over, it was a breeze with middle seat empty etc.
For the longest time, I have been flying Jetblue, essentially because it is non-stop to STI and yes, paying top dollars even without a checked bag but I guess, it is better than having to deal with what you guys and Grown Man described.[/QUOTE]My biggest concern is maintenance and customer service. Spirit has terrible customer service and if they skimp on the basic shit to make a profit, it makes me wonder how they approach maintenance.
American Airlines has quietly re-certified the 737 8 max and released it to the fleet. JetBlue has phased out the Brazilian 190 aircraft (my favorite) and went with new airbus jets.
BTW Spirit just cancelled all flights to Tampa and cancelled more at FLL. To each his own but I wouldn't fly Spirit even if it was free.
Spirit is experiencing an operational meltdown. It doesn't happen all the time or even often. I can't say I fly a lot on Spirit, but I have my fair share. I've never had any issues.
Meltdowns aside, OldCool is right that you need to know how to fly Spirit. Never ever fly in a regular seat! Yes, pay extra for a BFS (big front seat) or an exit raw. You won't even know you're flying the most hated airline in the USA If you take this approach.
Nowadays, always buy travel insurance that covers everything: emergencies, delays, cancellations, whatever, or check if you already have one with one of your credit cards. We're talking like $50-70. Seriously, shit will keep happening until air travel gets back to normal.
Start checking for IRROPs before leaving home. If you see systemic delays, you might want to reschedule. Better be disappointed at home than airport.
With legacy airlines, see if you can get to lounge if you're already at the airport. In lounge use a concierge to rebook your flight and avoid dealing with long lines and the madness of the terminal. You can also have some snacks and drinks while other people are killing each other in a line to the help desk. Even if you have to pay for access it may be worth it, and your insurance can reimburse.
Get all you're entitled to (like food and hotel vouchers from an airline and reimbursement from insurance too). IRROPs can be profitable sometimes.
[QUOTE=Norbert61;2588340]I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone goes to Bailey's -It is absolutely the worst service on the entire island.[/QUOTE]Aside from comfortable seating, clean banyo, no skanks, one of the best wood oven, baked to order pizzas in town, and no hustle to get you out of there as fast as they can, I agree. LOL.
Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2588357]My biggest concern is maintenance and customer service. Spirit has terrible customer service and if they skimp on the basic shit to make a profit, it makes me wonder how they approach maintenance. To each his own but I wouldn't fly Spirit even if it was free.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% and will take it one step further and say that I wouldn't fly them if they paid me to fly with them, some things in life are worth paying a little extra for, travel comfort is one of those things for me but I understand why some people feel otherwise.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2588530]I agree 100% and will take it one step further and say that I wouldn't fly them if they paid me to fly with them, some things in life are worth paying a little extra for, travel comfort is one of those things for me but I understand why some people feel otherwise.[/QUOTE]For me happiness is a non stop flight. A "direct flight" means at least one stop.
I remember a "direct" flight to TO from Miami. It stopped in NY. But La Guardia was shutting down because of snow. So they unloaded us. I joined hundreds of pissed off travelers lined up for information, of which there was none.
Then a rumor started that there were some flights leaving Kennedy, so we all raced for taxis. Got to Kennedy and found a flight to TO via Philly. Whew!
They boarded us, and the plane lined up for de-icing. An hour later we taxied back to the gate. No go.
So we unloaded again. Back in the frantic terminal they were trying to give us a hotel voucher but all the hotels they used were full. So they brought in a bus, gave us a toilet kit, and shipped some of us off to a small hotel in Queens. They had a bar, so we were just happy to get a drink and a room. Met some interesting people that night.
Next day finally got a flight to TO via Buffalo. Tried to explain to the wife why what she thought was a short business meeting in Montreal took so long. She didn't buy it, bess her. At some point later she saw my passport.
Anyway I'm leaving Sosua for TO for a month or so, but no flights out of PP, so I'm taking a leisurely drive to Punta Cana, staying overnight at the airport Sheraton for an early morning AC direct flight to TO. Be there for lunch.
Stress free, and as they say, god willin. No more milk runs thru the States. But if you must use connections, best to travel light, no checked bags.
Thank you to Coolie High for all your help with my trip! You made it so much smoother and prepared me for what to expect! I spent a total of 8 days in Sosua not counting the days of arrival and departure. After spending many outings at the German Fkks and Zona Norte Tijuana, I decided to give Sosua a shot! Coolie High was right that I would be OVERWHELMED as soon as I arrived. Boy was he right!
Background info: Early 30's Dark Mexican American Male from LOS Angeles who speaks fluent Spanish. I thought I could blend in as a Dominican and boy was I wrong LOL.
I flew American Airlines from LA to Miami to Puerto Plata. The trip started off on a scary note. Everything was smooth until we attempted to land in Puerto Plata. The windows immediately got covered with condensation which caused the pilot to abort the landing at the last minute. That decision caused the airplane to shift violently to the right which caused many of the passengers to cry in fear. Many fellow passengers could be seen reciting their prayers at that moment. Once back in the air, the pilot informed us that we would be flying in circles in order to wait for the rain to calm down. This went on for an hour to which the pilot decided to land in Santo Domingo instead. Once in Santo Domingo we waited another hour until the rain had finally cleared in Puerto Plate and back in the air we went. We finally arrived 3 hours later than the original landing time but we were just glad to be safe and alive LOL. During the waiting in Santo Domingo many fellow passengers were losing it and starting verbal altercations with one another about their masks. All I can say is the plane was fully booked and we were literally ass to face like at a nightclub so I can sympathize with those that were upset over others removing their masks.
Once we finally landed in Puerto Plata I waited about 20 minutes for my driver who had gone to eat after waiting for me throughout the delay which is understandable. Here is where Coolie High was right about me being overwhelmed. As soon as we entered Sosua there were literally tens if not hundreds of girls walking or sitting down throughout the streets. Most of these girls were easily 8's and 9's in my opinion. I couldn't believe the beauty of the women that I was seeing. Once in my hotel I decided to call it a night and sleep off the jet lag from the delays. My hotel ended up being only a 10 minute walk away from Pedro Clisante and the Beach which worked out very well in my favor.
Day 1 Monday I quickly learned about the brutal Carribean heat and humidity. My plan was to simply walk to Super Pola which was about 10 minutes away on foot in order to exchange some money. After that my plan was to see Bailees and the beach. After exchanging money and checking out the beach and bailees, a total of about 40 minutes had passed and I was already drenched in sweat and about 5 shades darker than when I arrived LOL. I decided to order a pizza and relax the rest of the day. During my walk on the beach this nice Haitian guy working for Diversity Bar asked me to sit down and have a drink with him. I told him I would eventually and did that on day 2.
Day 2 Tuesday I simply wanted to avoid the heat so I went to the beach and sat down with the nice Haitian guy and simply chatted for hours. He explained that business is very slow and doesn't pick up until at least Thursday which explained the lack of women walking around in the beach. There were still plenty of women but nothing like what I saw on YouTube. Once the sun finally came down I decided to hit up Pedro Clisante to observe the talent. As I walked I noticed that many of the women didn't pay much attention to me which I found interesting. It took me about an hour later to realize that I was still wearing my mask LOL. Once I removed my mask the women began to call me "Chino" or "Peruano". Throughout my stay I didn't see any Asian looking males or darker latino males like myself so I went along with it and would smile when they called me Chino. As I was walking on Clisante this Domincan man walking with two girls immediate strikes up a conversation with me. His name was Joey and apparently he is well known by everyone in the area. He explained that the girls with him were 1500 for short time. In my head I thought that was a little low but like Coolie High said my fluent Spanish likely helped in this case. I actually didn't end up getting any quotes higher than 2500 for ST which ended up working for me with my budget. After about a 30 minute discussion with Joey, he informs that he is going to show me the houses where there are working girls. He took me to 3 different houses. Two were on Pedro Clisante and once was on Ayuntamiento. This was at around 9 pm in a foreign country so I was a little bit hesitant about getting robbed. In each house we would knock and beautiful looking girls would welcome us. I liked that I observed and informed the girls that I would be returning. After seeing the houses Joey asked for a small tip to compensate him for his time in showing me around. I thought that was fair and gave him 200 pesos for showing me around the block. I went to buy an ice cream at Helados Bon and called it a night without seeing a girl.
Day 3 and 4 Wednesday and Thursday were almost identical with me sitting with the Haitian guy in Sosua beach waiting for the sun to come down and then going to Pedro Clisante to scope out the talent. I exchanged numbers with a girl that was eyeing me from a bar and agreed to meet up with her for 2500 later. I was still a bit tired and sore from my travels so I didn't end up seeing this girl but simply walked around and continued to exchange numbers. On day 4 Wednesday, I saw a girl that in my opinion was the best looking of all that were there. I sent Coolie High a picture LOL. She was Chantal from Santo Domingo and was only 20 years old. We exchanged numbers and I agreed to text her later. After she walked away I saw Joey again and we talked again for about an hour while walking around. He kept trying to convince me to go to Puerto Plata with him in a carrito public where he said he had girls for 500 but I didn't feel comfortable with that and politely refused. As we were walking he introduced me to a girl named Rosemany. She looked pretty good and he recommended her so I decided to take her as my first girl in Sosua. As my hotel was only a 10 minute walk from Pedro Clisante she agreed to walk with me. This is where the red flags immediately started. She wanted 4000 for ST and 8000 for LT. I laughed and told her there was no way she would be getting 8000 from me. She agreed to 3000 for ST with a tip if she was worth it. She wasn't. In the room she wanted me to shower while she stayed in the room. I refused and had her shower with me even though my room was chica proofed I didn't want to risk it. As soon as we got down to business she immediately asked how long I would last because she had another customer waiting. At this point I had enough of her and told her I would finish when appropriate. After that she didn't complain but she wasn't exactly giving great service. After finishing I sent her on her away and returned to my room. I noticed she had left behind her earring and put it to the side. I immediately got a text from her about 5 minutes later asking me to return it to her at the spot on Clisante where we had met. I told her it was too late and that I would give it to her the following night. She said it was urgent and asked if I could pay for her motoconcho so she could come and get it herself. I told her that after the way she treated me she was lucky I didn't throw it away and refused to pay for her ride. She came on her own and texted me that she was downstairs. Once downstairs, I returned her earring and deleted her number. The security guy did a great job refusing to let her in without me when she arrived and also refusing to call me when she asked him to do so. I texted Joey that his girl was a disaster and he apologized saying some of them are like that with certain guys. Lesson learned.
Day 5 Thursday was very similar with hanging out the beach which was followed by walking around Clisante. I hung out at the corner of Kings bar and noticed many people constantly staring at me. One was a motoconcho named Abel who explained that everyone knows one another and simply said that they were wondering who I was and where I came from. I talked with Abel for about 30 minutes and saw Chantal from the previous day. I quickly informed Abel that she was the one I was waiting for and quickly went to talk to her. She agreed to 2500 with a tip depending on how she was. I was worried because like I said in my eyes she was the prettiest of all the girls I had seen. I had issues with this in the past in Zona Norte and FKKS where the pretty ones were usually clock watchers and gave shitty service. Chantal is about 5'7 and lighter skin with tattoos on her chest and right arm. I said fuck it "if she sucks at least she is beautiful LOL" She walked with me to the hotel and EVERYONE was staring. We passed a group of Motoconchos who said "That woman has a great body" and "great job Chino that girl is beautiful". Even the security guy at my hotel who wasn't there to check her identification told me the next morning that he saw me come in with a beautiful girl through the security cameras LOL. Chantal was GREAT! She did not rush and was very chatty and pleasant. I caught feelings LOL and was extremely happy with her. I tipped her an extra 500 because she was great and pretty much let me do whatever I wanted.
Day 6 Friday I planned to find a different girl and ran into Tony T at the corner of Clisante where the taxis are. He introduced me to a fine looking woman with curly hair who was about 5"8 darker skin with an extremely fit body. I liked what I saw and agreed to talk to her later. A nice shorter woman who looked in her mid to late 30's introduced herself and asked if I was interested. I told her maybe later and she quickly went on her way. At that moment Chantal was walking with her friend and immediately recognized me and smiled. She quickly came up to me and she knew I was sold again LOL. Once again we took the walk to my hotel with everyone starting at us the entire time =).
At this point I was very satisfied with Chantal and decided to see her each of my remaining days in Sosua. So days 7, 8, and 9 went the same way. I would walk around and eat at Bologna, Schnitzel Paradise, Margot, and Cafe Cubano and would end the night with Chantal again LOL. On those nights I would text her and she would come to my hotel on her own. Fuck it. I was very happy with her service and did not want to see anyone else!
Day 10 finally came and I am planning to return to Sosua again maybe in December! I know I only ended up seeing 2 girls but I was very happy with spending my time observing the beauties and ending the night with Chantal. I look forward to going again soon!
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2588988]After spending many outings at the German Fkks and Zona Norte Tijuana, I decided to give Sosua a shot! Coolie High was right that I would be OVERWHELMED as soon as I arrived. Boy was he right!
[/QUOTE]Great report brother.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2589028]Great report brother.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr Enternational!
"I was worried because like I said in my eyes she was the prettiest of all the girls I had seen. I had issues with this in the past in Zona Norte and FKKS where the pretty ones were usually clock watchers and gave shitty service."
This is a common theme isn't it? Chick is so hot she don't have to try!
Great way to get the best service from those types at least it has been for me is this:
When they approach and are talking to you, let her know how extremely beautiful she is. Of course, she won't care she hears that every 5 minutes. However, let he know of your exact prior findings. "Every time I meet a 10 they end up being a 2 or 3 in bed, or their personality, or both. Why would it be any different with you?" (you being the girl).
Almost always they will take it as a challenge and be very playful and I have ended up disarming them and end up having one who looks like a 9 but acts like a 6 7 or 8 and that you can live with!
For the record I don't think I have ever had a true 10. But. There is always another mission!!
Good report, Spike. Thanks for taking the trouble. Many (most?) don't.
You went with a plan, then did something totally different and enjoyed your trip. Adjusting to the circumstances is good.
I think you spent more time chatting to the local tigueres in one short trip than I have in fifteen years visiting and living in the DR. I avoid them like the plague, but you knew what you were doing.
[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2589049]When they approach and are talking to you, let her know how extremely beautiful she is[/QUOTE]OldSchool318!
That's exactly what I did. I was like "girl you are gorgeous" when I met her and hugged her. During our texting I did the same thing too!
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2589065]Good report, Spike. Thanks for taking the trouble. Many (most?) don't.
[/QUOTE]Thank you Charles Pooter!
The tigueres also told me about "Jaivas" and even pointed some of them out as we walked LOL. It was fun and I made sure to be aware of my surroundings to avoid any potential issues and luckily there weren't any.
Yes I am extremely happy with how my trip went overall and look forward to my next trip out there!
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2588988]Thank you to Coolie High for all your help with my trip! You made it so much smoother and prepared me for what to expect! I spent a total of 8 days in Sosua not counting the days of arrival and departure. After spending many outings at the German Fkks and Zona Norte Tijuana, I decided to give Sosua a shot! Coolie High was right that I would be OVERWHELMED as soon as I arrived. Boy was he right!
Background info: Early 30's Dark Mexican American Male from LOS Angeles who speaks fluent Spanish. I thought I could blend in as a Dominican and boy was I wrong LOL.
[/QUOTE]Wow, what a great experience, makes me want to give Sosua another swirl.
Then again: early 30's, fluent Spanish, who am I kidding? I'm none of these things, LOL.
And you're wise to decline that beach guy's invitation. He was setting you up for a scam, most likely.
Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2589150]Then again: early 30's, fluent Spanish, who am I kidding? I'm none of these things, LOL.
Thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]Thanks you Xpartan!
Hahaha I started late with this hobby in my late 20's but trying to do as much as I can!
Thanks again man. Appreciate it!
InsolentSpike,
Great Report! Glad I could help with your first trip to Sosua. We don't get a alot of fresh new perspective on the sosua board as much any more so your report is a breath of fresh air. Once you got over that overwhelming feeling I knew you be cool and settle into doing your thing and get yourself a nice fresh hunny dip that wasnt hardcore and demanding ridiculous prices.
BTW you never told me about your flight experience. That whole flight episode was a crazy situation. Glad you made it safely. Hope your flight home was a better, safer experience
[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2588988]
At this point I was very satisfied with Chantal and decided to see her each of my remaining days in Sosua. So days 7, 8, and 9 went the same way. I would walk around and eat at Bologna, Schnitzel Paradise, Margot, and Cafe Cubano and would end the night with Chantal again LOL. On those nights I would text her and she would come to my hotel on her own. Fuck it. I was very happy with her service and did not want to see anyone else!
[/QUOTE]The best reward you can give a chica is repeat service. That's Mr. E 101 class. Introduction to Chicas. I don't mind telling a chica if you're good I will give you a tip, but if you're really good I will repeat. Her good attitude made her eat for 4 days. That's way better than a 1000 peso tip.
I consider myself a Sosua vet. However, when I am there I mostly do my repeats and have a little time or interest to scout for new talent. After several leche Papi Leches, you realize how valuable Quality means to you over quantity. I wonder how you would have fared had you went to Boca chica. Good job Chino.
Great report Insolent. I had a similar plane situation years ago but it was handled differently.
It was my worse travel day out of many trips. American Airlines called me at 5 am to tell me my 9 am flight had been cancelled. Fuck that, if I can get from Tampa to Miami I can make the POP flight at noon. Caught a prop in Tampa where I was looking right over the pilots shoulder but we made it safely, Sosua here I come.
MIA to POP was on time but when we got to POP we couldn't land because of weather. For over an hour we just circled. I'm thinking we would divert to STI or SDQ but the captain came on the speaker and said Houston wanted us to return to Miami. Fuck man just give me a parachute and let me jump, Sosua is right there. We would have to wait in Miami for two days for the next POP seat. Fuck, just send me home to Tampa. Got all the way to Sosua and was sent home, what a bummer.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2589240]Great Report! Glad I could help with your first trip to Sosua.[/QUOTE]Coolie High,
My bad man I thought I told you about the initial flight. Luckily my return flight was super smooth. Sat next to a little kid so had plenty of room and on my main flight the other two people missed their flight so I had the whole aisle to myself.
Thank you again man if it wasn't for you I would have been paying ridiculous prices and would be totally lost. I owe you big time! I had a great time and am already looking for the next flight LOL.
Once I was there I was like “just remember what Coolie High told you to do” and after that everything went smooth!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2589279]The best reward you can give a chica is repeat service. That's Mr. E 101 class. Introduction to Chicas. Good job Chino.[/QUOTE]Thank you Grownman for steering me away from Boca Chica. I am pretty sure I wouldn't have done so well there.
I agree. I do that all the time in Zona Norte and the German FKKs. I enjoy looking and talking with the new talent but almost always stick to my regulars who treat me well. Thankfully I've had mostly great experiences from the start which has limited the number of shitty experiences I've had.
Thanks again Grownman!
Hi guys, I'm heading to the DR for the first time next month for a few weeks. I saw that I need an e-ticket to get in and leave. Printing one at home is no problem, but I don't own a cell phone or laptop, so does the airport in PP have any public computers where I can print one out? Or, is there a place in Sosua with public computers? Also, thinking about staying at Seabreeze. Good choice, or is there any better options for a cheap place that serves breakfast?
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2589772]Hi guys, I'm heading to the DR for the first time next month for a few weeks. I saw that I need an e-ticket to get in and leave. Printing one at home is no problem, but I don't own a cell phone or laptop, so does the airport in PP have any public computers where I can print one out? Or, is there a place in Sosua with public computers? Also, thinking about staying at Seabreeze. Good choice, or is there any better options for a cheap place that serves breakfast?[/QUOTE]The airline will have your reservation on their computer. Just go to their check in desk. Once you check in they will give you a boarding pass. That should get you through security to board your flight. No need to have E Ticket printed.
When you get in they will just ask to how long you are going to stay. No need to show proof of return ticket. If you want to be safe ask the airline to print out your ticket when you check in to travel to DR.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2589773]The airline will have your reservation on their computer. Just go to their check in desk. Once you check in they will give you a boarding pass. That should get you through security to board your flight. No need to have E Ticket printed.
When you get in they will just ask to how long you are going to stay. No need to show proof of return ticket. If you want to be safe ask the airline to print out your ticket when you check in to travel to DR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Sammon, and yes that's for my airline tickets, although I was referring to the customs declaration form that I was told was in addition to the airline tickets and Covid testing. It has to be filled out up to 72 hours before your flight. Here's the link:
[URL]https://eticket.migracion.gob.do/[/URL]
DR immigration has since gone paperless, so I was curious if there was public Internet access at the airport, or in town where I could fill this out and print it. From what I understand, completing the form generates a code that has to be scanned upon arrival and departure.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2589772]Hi guys, I'm heading to the DR for the first time next month for a few weeks. I saw that I need an e-ticket to get in and leave. Printing one at home is no problem, but I don't own a cell phone or laptop, so does the airport in PP have any public computers where I can print one out? Or, is there a place in Sosua with public computers? Also, thinking about staying at Seabreeze. Good choice, or is there any better options for a cheap place that serves breakfast?[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
Go on Amazon and buy an unlocked phone for less than 200 usd. I've gone in and out of the Dominican Republic 3 times in the last three months and you need that e ticket immigration form and the bar code. American wouldn't even let me do anything until I filled out the form. Some airlines ask for a return ticket and some don't best to be prepared. Just go to the American airline site and book a return ticket but use the 24 hour hold. They will send you an email with your confirmation number to show if someone asks. The 24 hour hold will expire automatically and you won't be charged but you have the ticket.
Just out of curiosity, how are you going to communicate with the girls in the DR without a phone or laptop.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2589772]I saw that I need an e-ticket to get in and leave. Printing one at home is no problem, but I don't own a cell phone or laptop, so does the airport in PP have any public computers where I can print one out? Or, is there a place in Sosua with public computers?[/QUOTE]If you can't get a hold of a phone or computer, you will just fill out the paperwork like old times. Immigration form, customs form, and covid form. Or like you said, you can do it at home and print out the scan code. Maybe your hotel will have a computer that you can use to print out before going home.
[URL]https://eticket.migracion.gob.do/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2589808]
Just out of curiosity, how are you going to communicate with the girls in the DR without a phone or laptop.[/QUOTE]I've got the flights booked, I just needed to get the immigration form squared away. As for the girls, I've been reading reports that say it's "like shooting fish in a barrel", so I'll treat it like food: when I'm hungry, I'll eat, when I want a girl, I'll get one off the beach. Short time, catch and release, no strings. That's how I do it in Santa Fe, Bogota. (Yes, I can speak passable Spanish). I usually travel once a year, and wanted to try someplace new. Cash is tight, and I can't afford Costa Rica or Panama prices, but with daytime prices here in the 1,500-2,000 peso range, I can swing that. I'll tell you what brother, I'm looking forward to those dark chocolate bunnies. I'll write a report when I return.
Mr. E, thanks for the tip. Good to know they still have paper forms. Worst comes to worst, I'll ask the hotel if I can print it out there, after asking where to get an antigen test. Have to love red tape.
I'm glad you gave sosua a chance and wrote a good report. And you were able to do what made you happy.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2589877]I'm glad you gave sosua a chance and wrote a good report. And you were able to do what made you happy.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Had a blast!
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2589808]... Some airlines ask for a return ticket and some don't best to be prepared. Just go to the American airline site and book a return ticket but use the 24 hour hold. They will send you an email with your confirmation number to show if someone asks. The 24 hour hold will expire automatically and you won't be charged but you have the ticket..[/QUOTE]There's another trick for onward proof that I use frequently since I usually book my flights one way. On Expedia a lot of the flights have free 24 hour cancellation. Same thing Mr Gogo said, just purchase a ticket to anywhere then copy the itinerary. Go back and cancel and you won't even be charged. I always use a different airline than I'm flying on for my onward proof, that way the check-in person doesn't have access to that system to determine whether or not it's valid.
I have been to Sosua before Pandemic and I enjoyed it. I am currently leaving Mexico because of new restrictions being enforced and I am considering a weekend in Sosua. Is curfew still 11:00 pm? Is there any nightlife at all? Is Ahnvee worth checking out? Is there a good amount of chicas in the 7-8 range or mostly hardcore pros? I am reading conflicting reports on what its like right now, any updates from people who have been recently or are there would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2590117]I have been to Sosua before Pandemic and I enjoyed it. I am currently leaving Mexico because of new restrictions being enforced and I am considering a weekend in Sosua. Is curfew still 11:00 pm? Is there any nightlife at all? Is Ahnvee worth checking out? Is there a good amount of chicas in the 7-8 range or mostly hardcore pros? I am reading conflicting reports on what its like right now, any updates from people who have been recently or are there would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I live in Sosua so can help you out yes the curfew is 11:00 Pm is Ahnvee worth checking depends it's shooting fish in a barrel but you should know chicks ask for more money there, on the other side of that I know dudes who refuse to pay the 500 peso charge entry fee and don't go I mean Ahnvee really is just the same girls you see all day just asking for more money. 7-8 range or mostly hardcore both chicks are mostly hardcore but more 7 than 8. You are in Mexico I will say in my opinion the ladies walking in Sosua don't look anywhere near as good as chicas in Hong Kong in Tijuana. There is a report on here from a guy that say he was overwhelmed by Sosua and he had been to FKK's and Tijuana so to me depends on your standard if they are low then you will see dimes all over the place and have a great time. You said you enjoyed it pre Pandemic so y ou would likely enjoy it now as it's the same girls.
I had a short time to sneak away while in the area. Early in the afternoon I had some free time. After walking up from Sosua Beach I walked back to Dr. Alejo Martinez street. Approaching Dr. Rosen street I saw two girls walking together, one of which was a very petite spinner. Probably 90 pounds or so, dark hair, light skin, pretty face. Said she was from Santo Domingo. I asked if she was working and she said she was. I asked her her age to make sure as well. She gave some weird name that I did not understand and then told me her name was Daniela. I asked her for the price and she said 1500 for ST. I asked her about a place as mine wasn't available. She took me back to her place which worked for me, but it was basically a dorm room big enough for a bed and a non functional shower. Just a bucket to bathe with. She had a wonderful slim body. CBJ and cowgirl and I didn't last. Decided it was time for me to get back rather than go for a seconds round. I gave her her money and then she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2595637]...I gave her her money and then she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end.[/QUOTE]Mil quinientos, tres mil quinientos. Spoken fast to horny ears a tres could get lost in the excitement of it all. Always good to repeat, and slowly.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2595637]I gave her her money and then she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end.[/QUOTE]Great report. Classic Sosua.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2595637] I gave her her money and then she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end[/QUOTE]Great Report.
But it doesn't have to happen.
Next time you pick up a stranger, show her the agreed money and tell her there is a propina, if she makes you happy.
Always, always, have an exit strategy.
Better to argue before the deed, rather than after.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2595893]Great Report.
But it doesn't have to happen.
Next time you pick up a stranger, show her the agreed money and tell her there is a propina, if she makes you happy.
Always, always, have an exit strategy.
Better to argue before the deed, rather than after.[/QUOTE]I know I repeated the price back to her. I do think the "carrot" of offering the propina is a smart one and one I will do next time.
I would also add that it seemed like there were quite a few women walking the streets looking for business in the early afternoon. Captain Bailees had a bunch of women there, but no idea if they were working.
When I took the bus to Santo Domingo I also saw a couple women who seemed like they might have been working. I have no idea what it was like back in the wild days, but I would say there seems to be easy action to find now in Sosua. The main thing is that the hours are a bit different than the past.
Assuming every girl in Sosua is working is a good idea. Girls can smell newbys and will do anything they can to get an extra dollar. Then come back the next day and try to hook up with you again. Most girls will give you your moneys worth but there are some hardcore girls who will do what ever with no conscience. You have to be a bit more careful picking them. It is a learned practice.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2596238]I know I repeated the price back to her. I do think the "carrot" of offering the propina is a smart one and one I will do next time.
I would also add that it seemed like there were quite a few women walking the streets looking for business in the early afternoon. Captain Bailees had a bunch of women there, but no idea if they were working.
When I took the bus to Santo Domingo I also saw a couple women who seemed like they might have been working. I have no idea what it was like back in the wild days, but I would say there seems to be easy action to find now in Sosua. The main thing is that the hours are a bit different than the past.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2596238]I know I repeated the price back to her. I do think the "carrot" of offering the propina is a smart one and one I will do next time.[/QUOTE]That makes no difference. Just like the guy that made a deal with the chick for $100 and she showed out and said it was supposed to be $150. This is a Dominican Republic especially Sosua thing. You do not see it going on in other threads like that. You should not have to trick hookers into doing fair business.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2596238]I have no idea what it was like back in the wild days, but I would say there seems to be easy action to find now in Sosua.[/QUOTE]What it was like was that chicks were way more beautiful, they did not play those bullshit games, and you would have to put them out when you were ready for them to leave; sometimes after days on end. All for 1000 pesos. Word is that people that fucked the good old days up are now working on fucking up Medellin and Cartagena.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2595637]....she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Sosua many time since 2010. Some of the girls I call use to work at Passions, work in established business, or locals I just meet during the day and call at night. They are not greedy, but need the money. They know why I'm in Sosua. And they are pretty women who havee better attitudes and are grateful for what I pay for their services. The girls who use to work at Passions were really semi-pros because they didn't want to work the streets. What they did in Passions stayed in Passions. I learned a lot from my many years of mongering in Rio. Terma girls made great GFE for many reasons, and Passion girls made great GFE. GFE get the propina, and rough street hoes don't. They especially don't get a propina if they ask for it. And if they ask for it during the initial contact, then you know to leave her alone. I don't give propina or pay for motoconcho except for a chica who I know and when I call her she will show. I know a few gfes who have cars and if I need them they show up. I can give them gas money for a few hours of shopping in Santiago or Puerto Plata, give them some paper for their time and gas and still get a BBBJ just because I asked. Those girls are easy to find, because the Dominican men treat them like shit for free. I don't f**k with online connecting or hussling Santo Domingo hoes. I've caught the gua gua to POP by myself and met females around the malecon or around in general. DR women understand a flirt and que es su nombre or quiero su numbre, or tu tiene esposo or esposa. She'll find her way to Sosua. Once you say Sosua, most women automatically know you staying somewhere nicer than she or any DR man can afford, and she can havee a good time and get a few pesos. And I mean a few, on the DR payscale. Also, never go to a chicas crib. Why? Maybe a lack of common sense? I met a chica working as a waitress at a pizza joint near the POP malecon. The fact that she was my waitress gave me an opportunity to flirt with her pretty ass. I told her where I stay and sh knew and later showed. Now granted, if a chica is on her period or can't afford the transportation, or have homee obligation it may cause an issue for her. But it's fun and more rewarding than the skanks in town or at the Ahnvee. The Sosua and Alicia beaches can be great to meet lowkey diamonds in the sand, for less headache from the hustling hoes. Just few ideas for those who can function solo, who doesn't act like or dress like the typical weekend warrior by being load, dressed in NFL or NBA sports gear. Remember, even DR women like men who dress in good taste, and good taste doesn't have to be bling or flash. Also remember, DR has a very close cultural relationship with the US, so they know what corny looks like.
[QUOTE=CubanFun2;2595637]....she got weird and insisted we had a agreed to 3500 for ST. I speak Spanish, it was 1500. She kept calmly arguing over it while on her phone. Before any "friends" could show up or whatever I gently pushed past her and left and grabbed the first guagua I could find. Would have been a great experience if she hadn't made it weird at the end.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Sosua many time since 2010. Some of the girls I call use to work at Passions, work in established business, or locals I just meet during the day and call at night. They are not greedy, but need the money. They know why I'm in Sosua. And they are pretty women who havee better attitudes and are grateful for what I pay for their services. The girls who use to work at Passions were really semi-pros because they didn't want to work the streets. What they did in Passions stayed in Passions. I learned a lot from my many years of mongering in Rio. Terma girls made great GFE for many reasons, and Passion girls made great GFE. GFE get the propina, and rough street hoes don't. They especially don't get a propina if they ask for it. And if they ask for it during the initial contact, then you know to leave her alone. I don't give propina or pay for motoconcho except for a chica who I know and when I call her she will show. I know a few gfes who have cars and if I need them they show up. I can give them gas money for a few hours of shopping in Santiago or Puerto Plata, give them some paper for their time and gas and still get a BBBJ just because I asked. Those girls are easy to find, because the Dominican men treat them like shit for free. I don't f**k with online connecting or hussling Santo Domingo hoes. I've caught the gua gua to POP by myself and met females around the malecon or around in general. DR womeen understand a flirt and que es su nombre or quiero su nombre, or tu tiene esposo or esposa. She'll find her way to Sosua. Once you say Sosua, most women automatically know you staying somewhere nicer than she or any DR man can afford, and she can havee a good time and get a few pesos. And I mean a few, on the DR payscale. Also, never go to a chicas crib. Why? Maybe a lack of common sense? I met a chica working as a waitress at a pizza joint near the POP malecon. The fact that she was my waitress gave me an opportunity to flirt with her pretty ass. I told her where I stay and sh knew and later showed. Now granted, if a chica is on her period or can't afford the transportation, or have homee obligation it may cause an issue for her. But it's fun and more rewarding than the skanks in town or at the Ahnvee. The Sosua and Alicia beaches can be great to meet lowkey diamonds in the sand, for less headache from the hustling hoes. Just few ideas for those who can function solo, who doesn't act like or dress like the typical weekend warrior by being load, dressed in NFL or NBA sports gear. Remember, even DR women like men who dress in good taste, and good taste doesn't have to be bling or flash. Also remember, DR has a very close cultural relationship with the US, so they know what corny looks like. Last tip, if a chica has a girfriend or more with her and they are from Santo Domingo, leave them alone. That's a red flag. They are working in tangent in many ways and have a set price and a game plan for you. They will either try and talk you into taking both, or if you take one the other will call and say "time is up" while you're banging the other. "My friend needs the key or my friend needs help." Chicas have a wingman, too!
Spent 24 hours in the Su had 4 sessions and enjoyed them all. The playa Chiqita casino was banging. Loads of better quality girls and excelente DJ. I am not big on discos but I enjoyed myself. Met a sexy thick 19 year old. She was the surprise of the trip. Took dick like a pro and seemed to enjoy sex as much as me. Was her 1st time wit a toy. She loved it. She asked for 3000. I was surprized surprised. Allotherrs started at 80 dollars.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2598591]She asked for 3000. I was surprized surprised. Allotherrs started at 80 dollars.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the repeated post below. Anyway, I'm not surprised at 3000RD pesos. Despite what many inexperienced tourist mongers pay, I still pay low prices. You just have to know which girls to get and not let them tell you what they want, but tell them what you'll pay or walk.
The girls have a clear idea of what they are worth. Getting low ball prices and expecting a great performance is not reasonable. I to remember 1500 pesos but those days are gone we pay more for less.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2598689]The girls have a clear idea of what they are worth. Getting low ball prices and expecting a great performance is not reasonable. I to remember 1500 pesos but those days are gone we pay more for less.[/QUOTE]Okay! But that's not my experience with prices.
At Traveling Man3:
I will be in Sosua Nov 20th to DEc 5th.
Would greatly appreciate some local guidance, drinks are on me.
For some reason I cannot send you a PM? Any way to contact you?
Greets.
Berliner.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2590317]I live in Sosua so can help you out yes the curfew is 11:00 Pm is Ahnvee worth checking depends it's shooting fish in a barrel but you should know chicks ask for more money there, on the other side of that I know dudes who refuse to pay the 500 peso charge entry fee and don't go I mean Ahnvee really is just the same girls you see all day just asking for more money. 7-8 range or mostly hardcore both chicks are mostly hardcore but more 7 than 8. You are in Mexico I will say in my opinion the ladies walking in Sosua don't look anywhere near as good as chicas in Hong Kong in Tijuana. There is a report on here from a guy that say he was overwhelmed by Sosua and he had been to FKK's and Tijuana so to me depends on your standard if they are low then you will see dimes all over the place and have a great time. You said you enjoyed it pre Pandemic so y ou would likely enjoy it now as it's the same girls.[/QUOTE]
Yes, sosua is the remote worker paradise. I had no problems with video calls on teams. The internet worked great. I had a blast pounding girls like there was no tomorrow during my breaks. Perfect recipe for productivity.
I landed in santo domingo on August 16th, but flew out of puerto plata on August 29th. No covid negative test required upon entry and I was selected for the random test.
I stayed at hotel riazor for one day, few people talked about the hotel being girl friendly. As soon as I checked in, midafternoon, I went to get my ticket for sosua at the caribe station. I bought 2 tickets but should have just bought one ticket since the bus was half full. Right after I got my ticket, I went to the supermarket near GBP to get cash from the ATM. Once I got some pesos, I headed to GBP. There were about 11 girls, and 2 guys. Two of the girls had killer bodies, tall, thick, flat stomach, and pretty. I took both back-to-back for 1,500 each. Both were good at riding. Both gave me CBJ but didn't really care. Ironically my first girl ended up being the best-looking girl during my whole trip. I should have got her number. Around 8 pm, I decided to go my hotel to get some food and make some calls. I got back again around 10 pm. I only had one hour before they closed, so I decided to take 2 more girls back-to-back. One of them couldn't make me cum, so after 30 min of fucking in all kinds of positions, I asked her to bring the next girl. The next girl was tall with an average ass but still nice. As soon as she got in, I changed the condom and pounded her for like 20 straight minutes, before filling up the condom. Overall, GBP was a nice experience, next time I may bring my own sheets LOL. After GBP, I went to Mixer bar to checkout the place. But the bar was already closing when I got there. I stayed there for about 30 minutes talking to girls. I got a couple of numbers, but I never contacted them. The next day I took the bus to sosua, at about 10:30 am. Arrives at about 3 pm in sosua.
I stayed at sosua inn for about one week, then spent the rest at casa valeria. I went to sosua earlier than planned, and casa valeria couldn't accommodate me in the same room for the days prior to my reservation with them. That's why I started with sosua inn. Both cost me about $90 a day, breakfast included. I took my covid19 at casa valeria. The cost was 2,700 pesos, and results available the same day before 4 pm.
One thing for sure, sosua is not the same it was before covid, but the place is still fun and there is still plenty of girls to choose from. When I was there, party till 4 am on weekends. Bailee is the best spot during the day up to 9 pm, then kings from 9 pm to 11 pm. After 11 pm it was the club at playa Chiquita, and copa cabana after 2 am. I heard there is another after hours spot called Diamond, but I didn't go to check it out. Before COVID, there was many girls, especially when rumba, merrengue, and classico were all opened. It was like being in a candy shop with girls everywhere, trying to talk to you, grind on you, or just straight harass you. It was magic. I didn't feel the same magic, but however, my trip was still fun. There isn't much action around kings (old rumba), and the old pizza place is now a Chinese store. The bars at the intersection are pretty much empty during the day. Before covid there was easily 500 girls in sosua on weekends (my estimate, I may be wrong), now I am thinking maybe 100 on weekends. And the girls are spread out and walk less. Also, most girls are new girls, new faces. Even some of the hardcore chicas I have seen throughout the years were nowhere to be seen.
I was there for two weekends, and both clubs at the casino in town and the one in playa Chiquita were open. Play Chiquita closed at 2 am, I didn't even notice that there was a curfew. Everything is pretty much open. The club at play Chiquita was crazy packed on Fridays and Saturdays, also crowded on Thursday and Sundays. Avnhee was pretty much dead during the week and weekends, though there was a couple of girls that were staying there.
I had about 24 girls and I repeated with about 5 girls at night during my 12 days in sosua. The prices for all night were crazy, all I did was one hour session with the girls that I had the best experience with. I just told them to come to my hotel at 3 am. There were few days when none of them showed up, and I had to sleep without fucking. But I made sure to get one early in morning before I started to work. I was pretty much there for sport fucking, and I went through a rigorous training before my trip. Lifting weights and running. Half of the girls provided somewhat GFE, with 5 of them providing the best experience. GFE and chill wife, and were in no rush. I only had 2 bad experiences. Both said I was taking too long, and I quickly reminded them that they agreed to an 1 hour session, and if they wanted to leave, I will give them half the money. With one of them, I lost my erection while arguing about the 1 HR, and I couldn't get my dick back up, so I took 500 from her money. It was a good trip overall with no drama. My improvements in Spanish allowed me to better negotiate. For most of the girls I asked to get lap dances for about 4 songs. Then I had my routine to change positions which allowed me to use a good portion of the hour. One other things guy, always make sure to stay in control. Don't let these girls run over you. If she is rushing you, tell her to slow down, calmy force her to do what you want if you have to. When they see weakness, they will try to be out of there in 15 min.
Prices have definitely gone up and all the girls were quoting in dollars, but I always brought the negotiation back to pesos. My goal during this trip was to fuck as many 9's in my ratings as possible. 9's for me are tall girls at least 5'7', big ass, small waist, firm titties, nice face, smooth skin, dark or light skin. Pretty much a rap video type girl, histogram or Facebook models. I didn't come to sosua to fuck average girls or the girl next door with saggy boobs or an unevenly shaped booty, or a stomach tacked in the underwear. For the whole time I was in sosua there was about 20 girls that were 9's in my ratings. Most of them quoted me 100 or 80 for the hour. I was able to get about 6 of them for 3500 with 200 propina, and about 5 girls for 3000 with 200 propina. The girls that were 8 to me, some due to age probably in their late 20's or early 30's most went for 2700 with propina included. I had about 9 girls for 2700, and 4 girls went for 2000 with 100 propina, due to a little stomach. Pretty much the girls I gave 2000 were 7 in my books, and it is the kind of girls I can easily have in the US, but I picked them mostly on good vibe, and pushed to negotiation to my favor, blow job with no condom, and asked for 30 minutes slow blow job. I stayed away for all night sessions after the clubs because many of the girls I liked quoted 150 to 200. Though I heard a couple of guys getting girls for 100 or 120. Overall my average cost ended up around 2950 with 29 sessions. About 1,550 usd total, and 53 usd per nut. This doesn't include what I spent in santo domingo at GBP, probably 7,500 peso including drinks.
Like I said there isn't as many girls like before covid. But the ratio girls to guys is still the same. I believe the issue is we still don't have a tonne of tourists in sosua, and I can't see why a tonne of girls would make the trip to sosua if it is harder to make money. The good thing about this trip is I was able to work remotely during the week. I also worked from the bar at bailee, and was getting numbers as I was working, and was targeting about 2 girls during my work hours.
This time I was also able to socialize with many mongers, I guess at some point we just saw each other everywhere. I noticed that many guys do not stick to their trip objective. They are too nice, and just settle for something they can easily get in the US. Why come all this way to fuck below average girls? I spent about 3,800 for my trip about $300 a day. With $300 it is still easy to find a pretty girl with nice performance online in most major us cities. Actually with 150 in most cities in the US you can have a good experience with a good looking girl, and performance can get better with repeats if you have a good go to regular. We complain at lot about the prices girls want, but the bigger issue is also guys giving too much money to below average girls. The price should follow a somewhat linear curve. I have seen many guys giving 3000 pesos to girls that I wouldn't even touch. The kind of girls that always hang outside, or near or inside that german bar. Rule of thumb guys, if a girl never goes inside Bailee, Kings, or never pay the fee to get inside the club. She probably can't ask for more than 2000. Give those type of girls 1,500. Or at least have your criteria to help you decide on what prices a girl may get from other guys. At the end of the day it is not cool to over paid, you can always use that money as propina. But at least try to negotiate, and have an idea on what other people would give to a girl. Tough this is subjective but in most circumstances it should work. The hip hop culture has a strong influence in the DR, that's why the big booty small waist, pretty face would request the top dollars. When I was at playa chiquita I noticed that many folks in the VIP that were throwing dollars had actually no girls with them. Looks the girls were just waiting for them to throw what seems to be $20 in ones a couple of times. But no girls were rushing to get in the VIP with them. That was strange, the VIPs at classico were always packed with chicas. Not this time.
Conclusion. Sosua isn't what it was before covid, but I think this statement applies to many cities in the world right now. But there is still plenty of chica to choose from, and the same hesitation on which girl to choose. It was also perfect for me as a remote worker, because a couple of times I had to run to my room from the beach to get a call or check something, all in less than 5 minutes. None of my co-coworkers could tell I was overseas. The bar at Bailee was perferct for working and collect numbers. By the time I got to casa valeria, I had enough numbers that I didn't have to go to Bailees during work hours. I pretty much stayed most of the time in my room, and got the girls I wanted to come to my room for a quick break. I believe that things will pick up once covid is behind us. With all the close contacts I had, girls spitting on my dick, some kissing me, licking boobs. I must say covid19 is now behind me.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2599225]For the whole time I was in sosua there was about 20 girls that were 9's in my ratings. Most of them quoted me 100 or 80 for the hour. I was able to get about 6 of them for 3500 with 200 propina, and about 5 girls for 3000 with 200 propina. The girls that were 8 to me, some due to age probably in their late 20's or early 30's most went for 2700 with propina included. I had about 9 girls for 2700, and 4 girls went for 2000 with 100 propina, due to a little stomach. Pretty much the girls I gave 2000 were 7 in my books, and it is the kind of girls I can easily have in the US, but I picked them mostly on good vibe, and pushed to negotiation to my favor, blow job with no condom, and asked for 30 minutes slow blow job. I stayed away for all night sessions after the clubs because many of the girls I liked quoted 150 to 200. Though I heard a couple of guys getting girls for 100 or 120. Overall my average cost ended up around 2950 with 29 sessions. About 1,550 usd total, and 53 usd per nut. This doesn't include what I spent in santo domingo at GBP, probably Give those type of girls 1,500. Or at least have your criteria to help you decide on what prices a girl may get from other guys. At the end of the day it is not cool to over paid, you can always use that money as propina. But at least try to negotiate, and have an idea on what other people would give to a girl. Tough this is subjective but in most circumstances it should work.[/QUOTE]Great post. I agree to not show weakness, talk pesos and not dollars, and negotiate the price upfront and set your ground rules about length of time of the session. I don't normally do all nights. If a girl does a great job she gets a popina. I had girls who gave service and expect popina and motoconcho. No! But most fellas go to Sosua and her $100 for an hour and not knowing that's almost half the monthly income of a Dominican average salary, and their horny a $$ think it's a good deal to bone a chica for the price they throw away at a state side strip club and jack off I. Their car before going home to their state-side chick. Either the chica wants what I'm willing to pay or she goes back to Santo Domingo on that Sunday Caribe bus without my money. I don't like messing up the market by overpaying the girls, where other fellas do care and about the big picture.
Hey folks, I literally just set up my premium subscription on ISG yesterday as was pointed out from some veterans on the board.
I would greatly appreciate any practical info (especially on shorttime rooms) and the best venues during day and nighttime to visit for some shorttime action. So if you have any concrete addresses or places to visit and the prices that one would have to pay for 1-2 hours full service I would greatly appreciate it. Will of course make sure to give back to the community with some reports once I am there.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2599225]Yes, sosua is the remote worker paradise. I had no problems with video calls on teams. I had a blast pounding girls like there was no tomorrow during my breaks. Perfect recipe for productivity. Pretty much a rap video type girl, histogram or Facebook models.[/QUOTE]You really were into your work if you were able to mix rap video chicks with histogram models. Great report and thanks for including the prices of everything.
One of the ever read for Sosua. The guy did the work. As a long time Sosua guy I agreed with everything he reported. The casino disco is a game changer. I had as much fun there as CLsicos and haf better music.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2599304]You really were into your work if you were able to mix rap video chicks with histogram models. Great report and thanks for including the prices of everything.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2599475]One of the ever read for Sosua. The guy did the work. As a long time Sosua guy I agreed with everything he reported. The casino disco is a game changer. I had as much fun there as CLsicos and haf better music.[/QUOTE]Classicos? Time for me to return to Sosua. That was my favorite club followed by Rhumbas.
The Casino disco is a bit larger then Classicos with a bigger Dance floor. I was very impressed by the DJ. He played a mix of american and Dominican music. I was very pleased. There is a different character to the place. Local Dominicans also hang out in this club but there is no interaction with tourists. The 200 pesos entry keeps a lot of the hardcore skanks out. The girls tend to dress better in this club. I think it is a game changer.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2599662]Classicos? Time for me to return to Sosua. That was my favorite club followed by Rhumbas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2599475]One of the ever read for Sosua. The guy did the work. As a long time Sosua guy I agreed with everything he reported. The casino disco is a game changer. I had as much fun there as CLsicos and haf better music.[/QUOTE]Yes definitely a game change. Hope things will just get better from here.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2599757]The Casino disco is a bit larger then Classicos with a bigger Dance floor. I was very impressed by the DJ. He played a mix of american and Dominican music. I was very pleased. There is a different character to the place. Local Dominicans also hang out in this club but there is no interaction with tourists. The 200 pesos entry keeps a lot of the hardcore skanks out. The girls tend to dress better in this club. I think it is a game changer.[/QUOTE]The VIP areas at classico took too much space. And most of the bars at the 3 corners of the club are too close to where people walk inside the club, which just makes it too hard to move inside. The club at play chiquita has better flow, and yes the music was nice. Good local mix too.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2599881]The VIP areas at classico took too much space. And most of the bars at the 3 corners of the club are too close to where people walk inside the club, which just makes it too hard to move inside. The club at play chiquita has better flow, and yes the music was nice. Good local mix too.[/QUOTE]Back in the day Classicos had skanks too but I pulled the best babes I ever had in Sosua from there. I suffered the crush to do that.
Missing. Young lady. Young very pretty.
Girls are posting a photo of a working girl who has not been seen in 4 days. Her family is looking for her. The girl is some what of a bad seed she pulled a bait and switch on me threaten to call police. I wanted to slap the piss out of her but I know better. She also flashed having big money on whatsapp sometimes photos 1000's of dollars in US and pesos. Iam thinking someone saw all that money she was posting and robbed her or she tried cheat a home boy who put hands on her. I know I wanted to. I can see how it would be possible for things to get out of control with her. I think she also cariries a knife. I will post a photo if I can find it.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2602552]Missing. Young lady. Young very pretty.[/QUOTE]Looks familiar. I believe she stayed with me one night at Ahnvee. We had fun and it was supposed to be ST. Later when I went to the casino Chiquita she latched on to me again. She told me she had no place to sleep. We danced, drank and slept. Took care of my morning woodie.
Anything can happen in Sosua like the girl was killed at hotel Alicia.
Just a quick update. Having a great first trip so far. Lots of girls to be had on the beach, the strip, and down Dr Rosen. Beautiful asses, and cute faces. Already had two girls tell me they want to marry me. One even bought me dinner. Dick must be that good. I start out at 1500 pesos, end up paying 2000. So far, one Dominican and three Haitians. Lots to be had out on the street, no need to look elsewhere. Having a blast.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2603804]Just a quick update. Having a great first trip so far. Lots of girls to be had on the beach, the strip, and down Dr Rosen. Beautiful asses, and cute faces. Already had two girls tell me they want to marry me. One even bought me dinner. Dick must be that good. I start out at 1500 pesos, end up paying 2000. So far, one Dominican and three Haitians. Lots to be had out on the street, no need to look elsewhere. Having a blast.[/QUOTE]Have fun! Snap some pic!
So traveling to Puerto Plata in October staying at an AI. Will def be visiting Sousa beach and the strip. Any recommendations for cabana / short stay hotels to bring back some chicas?
[QUOTE=Rick1654;2604571]So traveling to Puerto Plata in October staying at an AI. Will def be visiting Sousa beach and the strip. Any recommendations for cabana / short stay hotels to bring back some chicas?[/QUOTE]Only one I know of in Sosua is Apartahotel Dulce Secreto. Cabaas out by the Casino Playa Chiquita.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/owWkqGFF6X5DMyrT6[/URL]
Hotels are cheap as low as 40 bucks. I would do couple in relaxed atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Rick1654;2604571]So traveling to Puerto Plata in October staying at an AI. Will def be visiting Sousa beach and the strip. Any recommendations for cabana / short stay hotels to bring back some chicas?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rick1654;2604571]So traveling to Puerto Plata in October staying at an AI. Will def be visiting Sousa beach and the strip. Any recommendations for cabana / short stay hotels to bring back some chicas?[/QUOTE]You can stay at several for an hour for 400 pesos. This is a little basic but a bed and a quick fuck. Ask her if she knows a place. But secretos is way awesome for a dirty afternoon. If you want to set up shop for the week Seabreeze or Ranchero.
[QUOTE=Norbert61;2605136]You can stay at several for an hour for 400 pesos. This is a little basic but a bed and a quick fuck. Ask her if she knows a place. But secretos is way awesome for a dirty afternoon. If you want to set up shop for the week Seabreeze or Ranchero.[/QUOTE]In my heavy mongering days, I used Hotel Central short time. 400 pesos.
Handy, quick and a great place to "audition' potentials. I once auditioned 3 in less than an hour.
Third time lucky, got a keeper.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2605317]In my heavy mongering days, I used Hotel Central short time. 400 pesos.
Handy, quick and a great place to "audition' potentials. I once auditioned 3 in less than an hour.
Third time lucky, got a keeper.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I was trying to remember the name of Hotel Central -just tell the bartender you want a room- it ain't much but it works. There are ceiling fans but no AC so if it is a hot day it can get pretty sweaty- Also. On that topic if you do go to Secretos -there is AC but it gets turned off when the room is not in use. You rent the room for 4 hours- it has been many years since I would have been able to make use of the place for a full four hours. Well maybe a nap after. Anyway - what I do is go pay for the room- get the key- turn on the AC and then go get the girl.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2603804]I start out at 1500 pesos, end up paying 2000.[/QUOTE]I posted here several times that the prices are 1500 to 2000 pesos. But the fellas here responded in disbelief. They rather pay girls state-side prices and screw up the market. The buyers control the market in Sosua, past and present. But if you want to be Big Papi, you pay Big Papi 4000 pesos.
Sosua has really changed even over this last year when I was here. Most clubs are empty at night! The action on the beach is down around 75%. Police almost every night are rounding up girls to sit in the plenty box overnight. I personally don't understand what are achieving. It was bad last year, however it is worse now even though the shorten curfew hours. I am really having second thoughts about moving here next year when I retire!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2602552]Missing. Young lady. Young very pretty.[/QUOTE]What is her name? She looks familiar.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2590317]I live in Sosua so can help you out [/QUOTE]I am thinking about going to Sosua for few months.
What is the cost of living is Sosua? Is is safe enough?
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2599225]Yes, sosua is the remote worker paradise. I had no problems with video calls on teams. The internet worked great. I had a blast pounding girls like there was no tomorrow during my breaks. Perfect recipe for productivity...
It was also perfect for me as a remote worker, because a couple of times I had to run to my room from the beach to get a call or check something, all in less than 5 minutes. None of my co-coworkers could tell I was overseas. The bar at Bailee was perferct for working and collect numbers. By the time I got to casa valeria, I had enough numbers that I didn't have to go to Bailees during work hours. I pretty much stayed most of the time in my room, and got the girls I wanted to come to my room for a quick break. [/QUOTE]Amazing! Which programs did you use for video calls, Zoom, Microsoft Team? How on the beach did you know that co-coworkers made video call? Do you need only a computer for your remote job or phone too?
[QUOTE=Ghana2017;2606996]Sosua has really changed even over this last year when I was here. Most clubs are empty at night! The action on the beach is down around 75%. Police almost every night are rounding up girls to sit in the plenty box overnight. I personally don't understand what are achieving. It was bad last year, however it is worse now even though the shorten curfew hours. I am really having second thoughts about moving here next year when I retire![/QUOTE]You got to flow and switch your game up. You can't come to Sosua with the same thinking like its going to be the same way as it was a few years back. You got to adjust, especially now more then ever since we're still in a pandemic. So no need to panic, theres still plenty of ladies to be had and once you move down there its going to be even crazier for you. But for now try finding girls earlier during the day so you won't have to hunt as much during the night. NETWORK is and will always be the key in DR. Its all about who you know and who you blow LOL. I know you are NOT doing the blowing so I suggest you start networking with expats down there, chicas that you get in good with will bring her girlfriends next time, hit the local expat clubs (here's a hint find the local clubs where they have karoke night) and not the tourist gringo money trap clubs. And since you're thinking about moving down there next year you should seriously start venturing outside of sosua and head to Puerta Plata. From what I'm hearing women are a plentiful but it is a 25-30 miin ride to there. And when all else fails do some computer love and find a hunny dip online.
All seriousness even with it not having alot of ladies walking around the beach and the clubs being really slow it shouldn't stop your mojo down there. And I was down there when there was NO nightlife as everything closed at 8 pm and they stop selling alcohol at 3 pm. But again the key is all about who you know. So start networking and if you're not fleunt in spanish get your spanish game up. Knowing spanish is also a HUGE major game changer.
Adjust your game, have fun and be safe down there.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Lenin;2607134]Amazing! Which programs did you use for video calls, Zoom, Microsoft Team? How on the beach did you know that co-coworkers made video call? Do you need only a computer for your remote job or phone too?[/QUOTE]I use Microsoft Teams on my laptop which works great at both sosua inn and case valeria. Even at Bailes at the bar the internet was good. I only need my laptop and good headphones. For videos I used a picture background. I didn't bring my laptop to the beach. At the beach I just used my phone to read emails and chats. But if you have an unexpected call and you are at the beach, you should be able to be back to your hotel in 5 to 10 min.
[QUOTE=Ghana2017;2606996]Sosua has really changed even over this last year when I was here. Most clubs are empty at night! The action on the beach is down around 75%. Police almost every night are rounding up girls to sit in the plenty box overnight. I personally don't understand what are achieving. It was bad last year, however it is worse now even though the shorten curfew hours. I am really having second thoughts about moving here next year when I retire![/QUOTE]Name a place that's 10 times better than sosua right now and I will be on my way there.
Yes beach action is probably down 75%. It is mostly locals right now.
I was there about a month ago and the clubs were packed on weekends and decent during the week. The casino at playa chiquita and in town were both opened, and both closed at 2 am. I didn't even feel the curfew frankly. And the police doesn't even bother tourists. One time I got back at 4 am. The police stopped my driver and when he saw I was a tourist they just let us go.
I personally didn't see any girls being stopped. I wonder if that's the reason why girls hang out at Bailes now.
Are the legit massage places open in Sosua? Are manicure, pedicure, facial places open?
Last trip meant sweet 19 year old new to the stroll. Had a great Session. She seem to enjoy as much as me. 30 days later she posting flashing money and twerking on WhatsApp. Last night sent photo on WhatsApp of her hot friend asking if I wanted a 3 some. She is now hardcore in less then a month.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2607163]Name a place that's 10 times better than sosua right now and I will be on my way there.
Yes beach action is probably down 75%. It is mostly locals right now.
I personally didn't see any girls being stopped. I wonder if that's the reason why girls hang out at Bailes now.[/QUOTE]The beach action is down 75% but you need a place 10 times better than Sosua in order for you to give it a chance? You are definitely a sosua die heart and that's cool.
In the last six months I've been to Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Sosua, and Boca chica. None of those places are 10 times better than the other. IMHO Cartagena is on the rise as the new or alternate Sosua. I thought I was in Classico Saturday night at club delirium. That's not including club space which is for the less hip-hop club scene.
Due to their harassment by the police; The Chicas are limited on how they can move around in Sosua. In Cartagena Colombia prostitution is excepted as a part of the culture. There are more independent chicas available in Cartagena than currently accessible in Sosua.
I'm not totally against the Sue. It gave me the best first time experience of all cities. However I am observing one area dissolving quickly and another area climbing fast.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2607239]Last trip meant sweet 19 year old new to the stroll. . 30 days later she posting flashing money and twerking on WhatsApp. She is now hardcore in less then a month.[/QUOTE]That tends to happen when you guys pay those hoes 4000 pesos at a time. Were you expecting that much money was going to keep them humble?
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2607159]I use Microsoft Teams on my laptop which works great at both sosua inn and case valeria. Even at Bailes at the bar the internet was good. I only need my laptop and good headphones. For videos I used a picture background. I didn't bring my laptop to the beach. At the beach I just used my phone to read emails and chats. But if you have an unexpected call and you are at the beach, you should be able to be back to your hotel in 5 to 10 min.[/QUOTE]How you redirect messages from Microsoft Teams chat to your mobile?
Do they use MS Outlook in your company? If so, can you redirect emails to your phone too?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2607324]You are definitely a sosua die heart and that's cool. [/QUOTE]I just think that people should understand that every place in the world is being affected by covid19. Anybody who just want to monger should do it because delaying trips is also what killing the prices. People just need to go somewhere DR, Brazil, Columbia, Thailand etc.
I am definitely considering Cartagena for one of my next trips. The only reason I went with sosua on my last trip is I got tired of looking for girl friendly airbnbs or hotels. Since the number of days I can monger every year are limited, I just go with convience and ease. Sosua was great since I didn't burn any of my time off.
[QUOTE=Lenin;2607347]How you redirect messages from Microsoft Teams chat to your mobile?
Do they use MS Outlook in your company? If so, can you redirect emails to your phone too?[/QUOTE]Install the mobile teams and outlook on your phone, and log in with your company account. My company allows us to install those apps on our personal phones.
I already know apartment in Sosua are a rip off. However I was checking in Puerto Plata yesterday. There is low inventory and the are just as overpriced as SOSUA! I am going to check out Santiago next week and a felt of quality & price of apartments there. I almost ready to take country off the list to retire too! (1) low quality women at least in Sosua. (2) Overpriced food at the stores. Overpriced rent for shity places!
Day or night plenty of girls to choose from. I've been going to the beach during the day and Pedro clisante around 8 pm. Three weeks in and still haven't paid more than 2000 pesos. Haven't been to any of the bars, there's a perfectly good selection outside. No need to collect numbers, just treat it like a supermarket of girls. Every evening I go out shopping. The Haitian girls are far superior to the Dominicans in appearance, booty, and attitude. They'll walk with you back to the hotel, while the lazy Dominicans want a moto ride. Plus they're better in the sack. I even took a four day trip up to the mountains and one Haitian girl wanted to go with me. I told her I'd pay for her meals and obviously she would stay with me in the hotel, but I told her I wasn't paying anything else. She said no problem. When I got back she never asked for anything. She says she loves to just stare at my green eyes, ha. The Dominicans are good, but get yourself a super dark skinned Haitian and they'll treat you like a king. At least that's been my experience so far.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2607681]Day or night plenty of girls to choose from. I've been going to the beach during the day and Pedro clisante around 8 pm. Three weeks in and still haven't paid more than 2000 pesos. Haven't been to any of the bars, there's a perfectly good selection outside. No need to collect numbers, just treat it like a supermarket of girls. Every evening I go out shopping. The Haitian girls are far superior to the Dominicans in appearance, booty, and attitude. They'll walk with you back to the hotel, while the lazy Dominicans want a moto ride. Plus they're better in the sack. I even took a four day trip up to the mountains and one Haitian girl wanted to go with me. I told her I'd pay for her meals and obviously she would stay with me in the hotel, but I told her I wasn't paying anything else. She said no problem. When I got back she never asked for anything. She says she loves to just stare at my green eyes, ha. The Dominicans are good, but get yourself a super dark skinned Haitian and they'll treat you like a king. At least that's been my experience so far.[/QUOTE]Iron what mountains did you go to? Was it a day trip?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2607681]The Dominicans are good, but get yourself a super dark skinned Haitian and they'll treat you like a king. At least that's been my experience so far.[/QUOTE]Of course. The Haitians are refugees and are out to make all the money they can. They are playing it for survival. The Dominicans are on their home field, so they can just give bad service or rip you off and go home to their family. It is the same thing in Colombia with the Venezuelan refugees. Scams with the home team and great service from the hungry visitors.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2607689]Iron what mountains did you go to? Was it a day trip?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I was in jarabacoa. Right now it's the low season, didn't see a single tourist. I climbed El Mogote. It's around 5000 feet at the summit. A steep climb near the top. If you go this time of year, you'll have the whole place to yourself. Make sure you bring a lot of water. I also highly recommend checking out Salto jumenoa, that's an incredibly impressive waterfall. These were all done as a series of day trips. Just ask a moto driver about hikes and waterfalls, and they'll hook you up. Great place to take a girl if you hit it off with one.
[QUOTE=Ghana2017;2607671]I already know apartment in Sosua are a rip off. However I was checking in Puerto Plata yesterday. There is low inventory and the are just as overpriced as SOSUA![/QUOTE]I have been living in Puerto Plata for the past 15 years. General consensus among both locals and visitors is that it is significantly cheaper than Sosua. My present apartment costs me US$150 per month (large salon / kitchen, two large bedrooms). Local contacts are best, otherwise cruise the streets looking for 'for rent' signs. If you go through agencies you will pay 50% more.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2607705]I was in jarabacoa. Right now it's the low season, didn't see a single tourist. I climbed El Mogote. It's around 5000 feet at the summit. A steep climb near the top. If you go this time of year, you'll have the whole place to yourself. Make sure you bring a lot of water. I also highly recommend checking out Salto jumenoa, that's an incredibly impressive waterfall. These were all done as a series of day trips. Just ask a moto driver about hikes and waterfalls, and they'll hook you up. Great place to take a girl if you hit it off with one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip about the waterfall. It appears to be in the center of the country. Did it take you a long time to get there from Sosua?
[QUOTE=Showdown;2607964]Thanks for the tip about the waterfall. It appears to be in the center of the country. Did it take you a long time to get there from Sosua?[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's in a region of the country called the Cibao. We used the bus system and guaguas to get there. First to Santiago, then la Vega, and finally Jarabacoa. Doing it this way takes about half a day, or you could rent a car and do it in about two hours. Either way you'll want to spend the night in town and venture out in the morning. We stayed at Hotel Jaraba, low price, close to restaurants and grocery stores, and a short walk from the guaguas station.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2607943]I have been living in Puerto Plata for the past 15 years. General consensus among both locals and visitors is that it is significantly cheaper than Sosua. My present apartment costs me US$150 per month (large salon / kitchen, two large bedrooms). Local contacts are best, otherwise cruise the streets looking for 'for rent' signs. If you go through agencies you will pay 50% more.[/QUOTE]I already have an expat that lives in Puerto Plata. His connections are telling him that inventory is low and what few decent places that are available are overpriced! I rode around in Puerto Plata and saw very few for rent signs in the places I am looking at!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2602552]Missing. Young lady. Young very pretty.[/QUOTE]Hey Kool.
Do you know her name.
I had a great first trip, going all over the island, into some remote areas, and into Sosua three times during my stay. I never had any problems, was welcomed into people's homes, and had many unique experiences in the countryside. In Sosua, whenever I wanted a girl, there was never a shortage, day or night. Although, you must know at least some Spanish. Thought I'd share a handful of pics from the trip. Out of respect, I won't post face shots, but enjoy these booty shots. Don't know why some guys are still paying 4-5 K pesos, maybe they're missing a chromosome. These beauties can all be had for 2 K pesos. As a side note, I was with three girls at separate times who had IDs with a birth date of 1997. I later found out by their friends they were younger. Two were still of age, one was not. Either it was a coincidence, or they are buying their false IDs from the same guy. If your girl's ID has a birth date of 1997, take caution. Enjoy the pics.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2608937]Don't know why some guys are still paying 4-5 K pesos, maybe they're missing a chromosome. These beauties can all be had for 2 K pesos.[/QUOTE]I've addressed the prices here and fellas think they they need to pay 4 k (mil) pesos. It surprises me when so-called "Sosua vets" pay too much. Great report!
Spent 4 days in SU had very good time plenty of new faces but I stuck with tried and true. My first was a Venezuelan big tits big ass all purchased. SEX was average nothing special. I later hooked up with my Gabriel Union look a like. She had some how sculped her body. Body looked 20 and she 36. She still fucks like a porn star. Had 2 sessions with her fantstico. I was very pleased. I hooked up with the 19 year old hotty from last trip and had amazing sex. In all about 6 girls. All decent. Had 3 girls request I bring them vibrators. I resorted to original foreplay shower and Massage. Worked like a charm they were purring.
I flewvi to Santo domingo and arramged for old amiga to come from Punta Cana. Plan was to meet at 4. 3 pm when i called she was home due to rain. I canceled her and searched my phone for santo domingo chicas got one a had good session. Last things girls are asking 100 for short time. The quality seems to be improving. Saw more 8s and 9s then i had seen in quite a while. The flow has changed. Ahnvee is no longer the hub of action. The playa chicota casino ru l es the night but numerous. Spots popping up.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2609008]
I flewvi to Santo domingo and arramged for old amiga to come from Punta Cana. Plan was to meet at 4. 3 pm when i called she was home due to rain. I canceled her and searched my phone for santo domingo chicas got one a had good session. Last things girls are asking 100 for short time. The quality seems to be improving. Saw more 8s and 9s then i had seen in quite a while.[/QUOTE]OldKool, 100 as in US $100? Just wondering if that's a typo, LOL.