Medellin Reports

I arrived on Saturday, late afternoon. The beauty of the city is second to none. The entire town is embedded in beautiful mountain peaks. The view from every corner of the city is breathtaking. The streets are spotless, the city is well organized, and the people are amicable.

Most importantly, the rumor is true! Girls in Medellin are super hot! The only other places I have seen this many hot girls are Moscow, Russia and Rio, Brazil.

The facebook method worked exceptionally well. I have banged five facebook girls in my first 36 hours. Doing homework beforehand really paid off big time. Thank you guys again for all the great advice! You guys are entirely right! Facebook girls don't bait and switch; they usually arrive slightly late, but not too late (within 30 minutes). I negotiated everything upfront; my usuals are BBBJ and DFK. Most of the girls will accept 150, and if you want extra, the price goes up to 250 + taxi. Most facebook girls are open for any kind discussion. All the girls are very professional, and their service is passionate. All of my girls so far are solid GFE / PSE. A tip for mining girls, start with a popular girl like ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse/friends[/URL]) look for her gringo friend and mine his friend. The only complaint about facebook girls is that we agreed for one hour, but if we finish fucking in 20 minutes, they will just cut the hour short and leave. Is MSOG a common thing in Medellin?

I visited the bar at the Mansion on Saturday night around midnight. The place is slow, but the girls there are super hot. I'm not saying at the Mansion, so I had to pay 50 k cover charge. In there, you can dance with the girls or enjoy an endless lap dance with full contact for the price of a beer. I didn't take anyone home from the Mansion's bar, all the girls at the Mansion look just as good as the facebook girls.

I went to Gusto at Park illegal around 1:30 am, the girls there are hot, they charge 100 dollars and up. I like the bar, for the price of a drink you can have close contact dance with an 8+. Is Park illegal the famous el Centro? I love Park illegal! Full of bars and clubs with hot girls, street hookers everywhere, most of them are super hot! I'm going to go there every night.

I also visited Fase 2 on Sunday night. The place is ok; girls are not as hot as the ones at the Mansion or on facebook, but there are some gems there. It's a typical strip joint with overpriced drinks. Girls who danced on stage will walk around asking for a tip, 2 k (70 cents) is the usual tip amount. 220 K to take a girl into a room for sex. In my opinion, Fase 2 is a good place for a beer. Facebook girls are much hotter and cheaper.

Mansion / el castillo.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2373479]Yes I can easily see some casa girls working other venues.

However, what is the Gringo Inn?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2373844]Phone is the number one stolen item and El Centro is number one on the list according to Medellin Guru. Yet so many tourists took their phones out to take pictures in Plaza Botero. Everywhere I look people have their phones out. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Not too long ago in Parque Bolivar before they started the renovations a guy was knifed to death for his cellphone.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2373909]Again I must say usually because I'm sure there are some mind blowing beautiful lesbians that crave penis equally but finding them is like finding Pablo's cash stash in the mountains there.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to 4X4 in Rio? I have had mind blowing threesomes there on plenty of occasions and I am no closer to finding Pablo's cash. Whether the chicks involved were lesbians or not, I have no idea. But they sure didn't have a problem kissing and sucking on each others' clits.

[QUOTE=SunnyDallas;2373923]In strip clubs and spas do they accept credit card (American bank issued) or cash only? Not very confident of carrying cash.
[/QUOTE]Someone can steal your card the same way they can steal your cash if that is what you are worried about. If you do use a card then they are going to jack up the fee so much that you would wish you would have used cash. Don't rock the boat. If using a card was a good thing to do, you would have seen many people talking about doing it already.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]The streets are spotless, the city is well organized, and the people are amicable.. Is Park illegal the famous el Centro? I love Park illegal![/QUOTE]Inaccurate description. No. You are definitely not downtown!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2373747]The Real Beauty of being on the ground In Medellin for at least 30 days is that you can arrange many appointments with many of the beauties of Centro and Parque Botero. I happen to meet a strange looking White Vennie, but she had the biggest asset that I had ever seen on a white girl. She looked as though she was out of place being as white as she was, but the size of her asset made me take a big interest in her. I asked her name and she told me, I asked her how much it was for rato with her and she told me. Our first date was not so good, but every day that I saw her in Parque Botero, I just knew she had more to offer.

No matter how big of a show these girls put on in Centro, not many are doing well financially, and very few have more than enough money to get from day to day. I have listened to every story that anyone could imagine and still I did not pay any attention to anyone that I was not interested in. This girl called me 2 days after our initial date and I told her that I was very dissatisfied with her lackluster performance and the only way that she would get a second date with me was to be a very dirty girl in bed and allow me to have a bbbjwcim, she did not hesitate and asked me when was our next date. This occurred around Sept 2, 2019 and from that point on, every night around 9 pm-9:45 pm she would show up for a date and allow me to have my way with her.

Allow me to explain, even though this girl was on the heavier side and the curvy side, she could ride a pole with the best of them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing! I have often found that the best sessions are with the ones who are not the Model type looks and truly enjoy themselves! Hard to find, but they are gems when you do, good on ya!

[QUOTE=SunnyDallas;2373923]Need advice from the experts here.

In strip clubs and spas do they accept credit card (American bank issued) or cash only? Not very confident of carrying cash.

Also please advice which would be high end clubs to visit and which are more popular among local?[/QUOTE]Cash. Fase Dos, which is one of the better clubs will not accept cards. I can't even imagine whipping out a credit card in the El Centro clubs.

Your also dealing with 2 entities, the club and the girl. The girl is only going to accept cash, even if the club allowed you to run a tab.

And you're probably going to be unhappy the next day when you find out that tab came to $6,000.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]The facebook method worked exceptionally well. I have banged five facebook girls in my first 36 hours. Doing homework beforehand really paid off big time. Thank you guys again for all the great advice! You guys are entirely right! Facebook girls don't bait and switch; they usually arrive slightly late, but not too late (within 30 minutes). I negotiated everything upfront; my usuals are BBBJ and DFK. Most of the girls will accept 150, and if you want extra, the price goes up to 250 + taxi. Most facebook girls are open for any kind discussion. All the girls are very professional, and their service is passionate. All of my girls so far are solid GFE / PSE. A tip for mining girls, start with a popular girl like ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse/friends[/URL]) look for her gringo friend and mine his friend. The only complaint about facebook girls is that we agreed for one hour, but if we finish fucking in 20 minutes, they will just cut the hour short and leave. Is MSOG a common thing in Medellin?.[/QUOTE]For me I found it really depended on the girl. Some would stay the whole time (even longer) but probably 2/3 did as you described. Not exactly running out the moment you finish, but after a little while asking if they can take a shower and then they get dressed.

I hope you can share so more details on who you saw and the experiences you had (good or bad).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2374083]Not too long ago in Parque Bolivar before they started the renovations a guy was knifed to death for his cellphone.[/QUOTE] Do you know if the victim resisted the attacker?

From my exp, there is no multiple shots. You can negotiate for it but the price you pay is for 1 shot.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]I arrived on Saturday, late afternoon. The beauty of the city is second to none. The entire town is embedded in beautiful mountain peaks. The view from every corner of the city is breathtaking. The streets are spotless, the city is well organized, and the people are amicable.

Most importantly, the rumor is true! Girls in Medellin are super hot! The only other places I have seen this many hot girls are Moscow, Russia and Rio, Brazil.

The facebook method worked exceptionally well. I have banged five facebook girls in my first 36 hours. Doing homework beforehand really paid off big time. Thank you guys again for all the great advice! You guys are entirely right! Facebook girls don't bait and switch; they usually arrive slightly late, but not too late (within 30 minutes). I negotiated everything upfront; my usuals are BBBJ and DFK. Most of the girls will accept 150, and if you want extra, the price goes up to 250 + taxi. Most facebook girls are open for any kind discussion. All the girls are very professional, and their service is passionate. All of my girls so far are solid GFE / PSE. A tip for mining girls, start with a popular girl like ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse/friends[/URL]) look for her gringo friend and mine his friend. The only complaint about facebook girls is that we agreed for one hour, but if we finish fucking in 20 minutes, they will just cut the hour short and leave. Is MSOG a common thing in Medellin?

I visited the bar at the Mansion on Saturday night around midnight. The place is slow, but the girls there are super hot. I'm not saying at the Mansion, so I had to pay 50 k cover charge. In there, you can dance with the girls or enjoy an endless lap dance with full contact for the price of a beer. I didn't take anyone home from the Mansion's bar, all the girls at the Mansion look just as good as the facebook girls.

I went to Gusto at Park illegal around 1:30 am, the girls there are hot, they charge 100 dollars and up. I like the bar, for the price of a drink you can have close contact dance with an 8+. Is Park illegal the famous el Centro? I love Park illegal! Full of bars and clubs with hot girls, street hookers everywhere, most of them are super hot! I'm going to go there every night.

I also visited Fase 2 on Sunday night. The place is ok; girls are not as hot as the ones at the Mansion or on facebook, but there are some gems there. It's a typical strip joint with overpriced drinks. Girls who danced on stage will walk around asking for a tip, 2 k (70 cents) is the usual tip amount. 220 K to take a girl into a room for sex. In my opinion, Fase 2 is a good place for a beer. Facebook girls are much hotter and cheaper.[/QUOTE]

Depends if there is chemistry between the 2 of you. I always offer 200 k for extras plus I tell them I would like her to to stay a couple of hours. Some of them will still want to leave before. To tell you the truth sometimes I am so beat that I don't mind them leaving early. I was there just a week ago had 2 girls that were above average in looks and performance where we agreed on a couple of hours. One left the next day after we had breakfast and lunch. The other came around 5 pm and left around 5 am after she drank most of my booze. Felt like Charlie Sheehan, I pay them to leave. Needless to say I invited both girls (separately) for more visits. For the record, I speak fluent Spanish

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2374172]From my exp, there is no multiple shots. You can negotiate for it but the price you pay is for 1 shot.[/QUOTE].

I'm learning Spanish but as of now I can say Hi and such, asking for price and that's about it. Without Spanish, it would be hard to build any chemistry. Or it's just my bad luck. As soon as we're done the girls are ready to find her next victim jajaja. I have yet to find one that like to hang around after.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2374189]Depends if there is chemistry between the 2 of you. I always offer 200 k for extras plus I tell them I would like her to to stay a couple of hours. Some of them will still want to leave before. To tell you the truth sometimes I am so beat that I don't mind them leaving early. I was there just a week ago had 2 girls that were above average in looks and performance where we agreed on a couple of hours. One left the next day after we had breakfast and lunch. The other came around 5 pm and left around 5 am after she drank most of my booze. Felt like Charlie Sheehan, I pay them to leave. Needless to say I invited both girls (separately) for more visits. For the record, I speak fluent Spanish

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[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]I went to Gusto at Park illegal around 1:30 am, the girls there are hot, they charge 100 dollars and up. I like the bar, for the price of a drink you can have close contact dance with an 8+. Is Park illegal the famous el Centro?[/QUOTE]It is called, Parque Lleras, not Park Illegal. It is not downtown, but rather in the more upscale sector of Medellin, Poblado. The chicas in Gustos will come down in price to 200-300 pesos if you wait them out, never negotiate in dollars. Just tell them you know the deal and they will walk away, but then an hour later they will come back to you, and accept the 200.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2374152]Do you know if the victim resisted the attacker?[/QUOTE]I can't recall the details. I remember that the victim was a Colombian. He must have resisted.

Tantra has been my least visited casa. However, I must post about today's visit. I chose Melissa. Paid 85 mil pesos upfront and entered the room. Melissa entered a few minutes later. I showered and lay on the bed. She immediately offered a massage which I refused and suggested FS instead. She slowly undressed and came onto the bed. What followed was a total starfish performance the likes of which frankly I have not had in Medellin since I've been here from July. Nevertheless went through the motions and nutted. I then requested a massage. She oiled me up and what followed was the best massage I've had from a working girl in a long time. I concluded that she must be a trained masseuse. After the massage she joined me in the shower and cleaned me up. When leaving the receptionist asked me "todo bien?' which she did not do on the 2 previous occasions. Hmmm interesting. I answered "bien".

I've been to thailand a few times. Dress there is pretty casual, shorts tshirt and sandals. I understand Colombia is a bit more dressed up. Can I wear chinos, sneakers, tshirt and a blazer? Can you elaborate on what to wear please?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2374239]I've been to thailand a few times. Dress there is pretty casual, shorts tshirt and sandals. I understand Colombia is a bit more dressed up. Can I wear chinos, sneakers, tshirt and a blazer? Can you elaborate on what to wear please?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Chinos and a blazer is more than fine. Hell, jeans and button down shirt is good.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2374239]I've been to thailand a few times. Dress there is pretty casual, shorts tshirt and sandals. I understand Colombia is a bit more dressed up. Can I wear chinos, sneakers, tshirt and a blazer? Can you elaborate on what to wear please?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Wear what you are comfortable in. You're on vacation. For most of us, there is no such thing as blending in, so don't bother trying to dress like a Colombian. You're not fooling anybody. Anybody who tells you that you need to "blend in" to avoid being robbed is delusional. It's using common sense (like not pulling out cash or an expensive cell phone in public) that keeps you safe rather than whether you wear shorts.

I usually wear a pair of jeans a white t-shirt, and a short-sleeve overshirt. I would not call it dressed up.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2374239]I've been to thailand a few times. Dress there is pretty casual, shorts tshirt and sandals. I understand Colombia is a bit more dressed up. Can I wear chinos, sneakers, tshirt and a blazer? Can you elaborate on what to wear please?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say it's "dressed up. " Typical dress is jeans, a t-shirt, and sneakers. You can wear a blazer if you want to, but it's not typical.

BTW I wouldn't put all of Colombia in the same category. If you're in a city on the ocean (Cartagena, Santa Marta), shorts are fine.

After arrival I took care of business, details, local phone and some grocery shopping with invaluable assistance of local female guide Estefania who can be found on Columbia Craigslist under Services. She is bilingual, very smart, savvy and non-judgemental about everything you want to know or go to. She is a safe driver and easy on the eyes.

Next day was local Valentine's Day, but it also a family reunion type holiday, so none of the ladies I have been in contact with were available until the next day. I made a date for noon Sunday, who showed up at 3:30. Stunning petite 20 year old who came like a freight train many times and drenched my sheets. She wasn't much in returning good oral and a condom consistently does not get me to nutville, but we had a great couple hours. She spoke only Spanish but Google Translate did the job.

Today I met a 23 yo bilingual, bisexual Piasa who attends and works at the university finishing her masters degree. What a treat she is. We talked and had dinner for several hours and then back to my place for some seriously sweaty fun. Damn! Gorgeous, smart, talented, multi orgasmic and sexy as hell. Jackpot! This what I was looking for. A good sugar relationship; mutually beneficial with respect, connection and no greediness. She has agreed to be my GF and tour guide.

I know that is not what many of you are looking for but it suits me perfectly. I had sorted through tons of responses to my profile on Seeking and had the list down to 22 that I had been messaging and were candidates. I nixed anyone who did not list friends with benefits as what they were seeking and also nixed the obvious no-go picture sellers, straight up escorts, platonic and marriage minded. There is 1 other bilingual, smart, funny and sexy looking lady that I may meet this week. Never hurts to have options.

Different desires and criteria sometimes require a different approach. S. A. Worked for me.

Hey guys, where is this? I've been here for the last 10 days, having a great time, will post soon about my exploits! Mainly been with private apartment chicas. Wasn't impressed by the freelancers downtown at all (Plaza Botero), but wouldn't mind checking out this street if it's easy enough to get to and safe enough (during the daytime anyway). Please let me know guys!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI&t=4s[/URL]

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2374306]Hey guys, where is this?[/QUOTE]El Centro. You were already there when you were at Plaza Botero. Look up JjBee62's post. He has a detail description about that street

When you use a credit card in most places your waiter will bring a small device to you table that has a printer. After some entries from your waiter out come a print out of your bill. You hand him your CC he sticks it into the portable CC reader then after approval of your CC out comes the form that you sign and a receipt. As I understand it no one including your waiter sees your CC number except the last 4 numbers. If your waiter, while holding your CC says something like I will be back monetarily. Grab your CC and say sure thing let me know when your ready for me to pay my bill. Better yet pocket your CC and pay in cash.

Hotrod 10.

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2374122] I have often found that the best sessions are with the ones who are not the Model type looks and truly enjoy themselves! Hard to find, but they are gems when you do, good on ya![/QUOTE]Quite the reverse, there are tons and tons of "not the Model types" available and not hard to find. Lot's of guys are fixated on "hotties", but for those of us, myself included, who lower it down a notch, there's an endless supply available in Medellin. That's the beauty of this place, all shapes, sizes, and colors available in different venues. I can't think of an all around better place to enjoy this sport. It's kind of like a really good surfing spot, easy to get to, warm water, good and long consistent waves to ride, and no crowds.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2374194]I'm learning Spanish but as of now I can say Hi and such, asking for price and that's about it. Without Spanish, it would be hard to build any chemistry. Or it's just my bad luck. As soon as we're done the girls are ready to find her next victim jajaja. I have yet to find one that like to hang around after.[/QUOTE]The language is an issue for many so your not alone in what you have experienced thus far. Hopefully things will improve for you as your Spanish improves.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2374223]Tantra has been my least visited casa. However, I must post about today's visit. I chose Melissa. Paid 85 mil pesos upfront and entered the room. Melissa entered a few minutes later. I showered and lay on the bed. She immediately offered a massage which I refused and suggested FS instead. She slowly undressed and came onto the bed. What followed was a total starfish performance the likes of which frankly I have not had in Medellin since I've been here from July. Nevertheless went through the motions and nutted. I then requested a massage. She oiled me up and what followed was the best massage I've had from a working girl in a long time. I concluded that she must be a trained masseuse. After the massage she joined me in the shower and cleaned me up. When leaving the receptionist asked me "todo bien?' which she did not do on the 2 previous occasions. Hmmm interesting. I answered "bien".[/QUOTE]So I am curious why your posting about your experience about this casa. Is it to let others know that Melissa at this casa is good if you want a massage, but a terrible fuck. I am assuming you had never been with her before, so how were the two others that you went with at this casa, good fucks and terrible massage? Was the 85 Mil for an hour? I haven't been to a casa in years so am curious about your experience, maybe I need to change my routine from all the street urchins I do.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2374306]Hey guys, where is this? I've been here for the last 10 days, having a great time, will post soon about my exploits! Mainly been with private apartment chicas. Wasn't impressed by the freelancers downtown at all (Plaza Botero), but wouldn't mind checking out this street if it's easy enough to get to and safe enough (during the daytime anyway). Please let me know guys!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI&t=4s[/URL][/QUOTE]I just watched the first 5 seconds. That's the southeast corner of Carrera 53 and Calle 51, the west end of the alley which runs alongside the Veracruz church.

Go to Plaza Botero. Stand facing the Museo de Antioquia. Turn left. Walk to the old white church. It will be on your right. Turn right. Avoid the trannies by the church. Walk 1 block. The yellow building at the beginning of the video is a casino on the corner. It will be on your left when you reach Carrera 53.

If you turn left, 20' down there's a stairway on the left. There's usually a bunch of girls there. There's nothing else in that direction. If you turn right, there will be plenty of girls on both sides of the street. They come in all shapes, sizes and ages.

After 1 block you'll reach the backside of the museum. On the left is a big public parking lot. Usually there will be some glue sniffers around the parking lot. Continue past the museum and the parking lot. Cross the street at Calle 53. Turn left. Go to Carrera 54. Turn right. This is the Raudal area. There will be girls on both sides for 1/2 a block. The big green building on the left after the girls is Motel Eros.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]I arrived on Saturday, late afternoon. The beauty of the city is second to none. The entire town is embedded in beautiful mountain peaks. The view from every corner of the city is breathtaking. The streets are spotless, the city is well organized, and the people are amicable.

Most importantly, the rumor is true! Girls in Medellin are super hot! The only other places I have seen this many hot girls are Moscow, Russia and Rio, Brazil.

The facebook method worked exceptionally well. I have banged five facebook girls in my first 36 hours. Doing homework beforehand really paid off big time. Thank you guys again for all the great advice! You guys are entirely right! Facebook girls don't bait and switch; they usually arrive slightly late, but not too late (within 30 minutes). I negotiated everything upfront; my usuals are BBBJ and DFK. Most of the girls will accept 150, and if you want extra, the price goes up to 250 + taxi. Most facebook girls are open for any kind discussion. All the girls are very professional, and their service is passionate. All of my girls so far are solid GFE / PSE. A tip for mining girls, start with a popular girl like ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse/friends[/URL]) look for her gringo friend and mine his friend. The only complaint about facebook girls is that we agreed for one hour, but if we finish fucking in 20 minutes, they will just cut the hour short and leave. Is MSOG a common thing in Medellin?

I visited the bar at the Mansion on Saturday night around midnight. The place is slow, but the girls there are super hot. I'm not saying at the Mansion, so I had to pay 50 k cover charge. In there, you can dance with the girls or enjoy an endless lap dance with full contact for the price of a beer. I didn't take anyone home from the Mansion's bar, all the girls at the Mansion look just as good as the facebook girls.

I went to Gusto at Park illegal around 1:30 am, the girls there are hot, they charge 100 dollars and up. I like the bar, for the price of a drink you can have close contact dance with an 8+. Is Park illegal the famous el Centro? I love Park illegal! Full of bars and clubs with hot girls, street hookers everywhere, most of them are super hot! I'm going to go there every night.

I also visited Fase 2 on Sunday night. The place is ok; girls are not as hot as the ones at the Mansion or on facebook, but there are some gems there. It's a typical strip joint with overpriced drinks. Girls who danced on stage will walk around asking for a tip, 2 k (70 cents) is the usual tip amount. 220 K to take a girl into a room for sex. In my opinion, Fase 2 is a good place for a beer. Facebook girls are much hotter and cheaper.[/QUOTE]Would you kindly me if you have other Facebook recommendations? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2373960]I arrived on Saturday, late afternoon. The beauty of the city is second to none. The entire town is embedded in beautiful mountain peaks. The view from every corner of the city is breathtaking. The streets are spotless, the city is well organized, and the people are amicable.

Most importantly, the rumor is true! Girls in Medellin are super hot! The only other places I have seen this many hot girls are Moscow, Russia and Rio, Brazil.

The facebook method worked exceptionally well. I have banged five facebook girls in my first 36 hours. Doing homework beforehand really paid off big time. Thank you guys again for all the great advice! You guys are entirely right! Facebook girls don't bait and switch; they usually arrive slightly late, but not too late (within 30 minutes). I negotiated everything upfront; my usuals are BBBJ and DFK. Most of the girls will accept 150, and if you want extra, the price goes up to 250 + taxi. Most facebook girls are open for any kind discussion. All the girls are very professional, and their service is passionate. All of my girls so far are solid GFE / PSE. A tip for mining girls, start with a popular girl like ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse/friends[/URL]) look for her gringo friend and mine his friend. The only complaint about facebook girls is that we agreed for one hour, but if we finish fucking in 20 minutes, they will just cut the hour short and leave. Is MSOG a common thing in Medellin?.[/QUOTE]Good report.

The upscale areas of Colombian cities are kept clean by a small army of city employees. They start fairly early in the morning, raking leaves, picking up trash and cleaning up messes. If you venture out of the upscale neighborhoods things aren't as spotless.

Facebook girls, YMMV. I can't recall any who were in a hurry to leave. MSOG has been attempted by a few girls, but only 1 succeeded. Each attempt was initiated by the girl, without any prompting from me.

The Mansion. Almost all the girls there are also found on Facebook. That may have been the place that started Medellin's Facebook scene.

Parque Lleras (I guess autocorrect got you) isn't in El Centro. It's in El Poblado. The difference is night and day. Especially since daytime is the best time in El Centro and nighttime is the best time in Parque Lleras.

Strip clubs. If you're just going for a beer, the El Centro clubs are better. You can have 10 beers and spend less than 1 beer (plus cover) at Fase Dos. Fase Dos is better if you're taking a girl. Rooms are much better and the selection is slightly better. But you'll spend a lot more.

Calle 51 and Avenida Cundinamarca.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2374306]Hey guys, where is this? I've been here for the last 10 days, having a great time, will post soon about my exploits! Mainly been with private apartment chicas. Wasn't impressed by the freelancers downtown at all (Plaza Botero), but wouldn't mind checking out this street if it's easy enough to get to and safe enough (during the daytime anyway). Please let me know guys!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI&t=4s[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2374522]Calle 51 and Avenida Cundinamarca.[/QUOTE]I went on Google Street Maps to find that "Residencias Channel" after seeing this photo in this post. I have to say that after cruising down this one block on Google Street Maps, as someone who has yet to visit Medellin, it shed a whole new light on why El Centro can be a good spot for Mongering. This of course basically a snapshot from two years ago but I spotted more than a few flacas that appeared to be "hanging out" that had decent looking boss. I'll definitely be checking out this area.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2374522]Calle 51 and Avenida Cundinamarca.[/QUOTE]There about five hotties in that shot on the right.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374506]
If you're just going for a beer, the El Centro clubs are better. You can have 10 beers and spend less than 1 beer (plus cover) at Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]Is the math correct? The least expensive beer at Conejita is 6 K. Beer at New Life which is not a strip club is 4 K.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2374451]Would you kindly me if you have other Facebook recommendations? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]This is one of the hottest girl I have seen so far on facebook [URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.serna.21[/URL] her friends are hot too.

Any advice on ATM's? Which ones allow the most to pull out at a time? Whats the max withdrawal? Do any charge ATM use fees for withdrawing? I'm coming from the UK so won't be exchanging dollars, ATM's will be my main source of getting funds with there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374506]Good report.

The upscale areas of Colombian cities are kept clean by a small army of city employees. They start fairly early in the morning, raking leaves, picking up trash and cleaning up messes. If you venture out of the upscale neighborhoods things aren't as spotless.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. I will take a trip this weekend to check out the other side of Medellin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374506]Facebook girls, YMMV. I can't recall any who were in a hurry to leave. MSOG has been attempted by a few girls, but only 1 succeeded. Each attempt was initiated by the girl, without any prompting from me.[/QUOTE]Good for you, man! The girls must like you a lot! Well Done!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374506]The Mansion. Almost all the girls there are also found on Facebook. That may have been the place that started Medellin's Facebook scene.[/QUOTE]I'm very fascinated about the Facebook scene, in the US, this is almost unthinkable. It feels like an active subculture in Medellin. I'm curious to find out how the Facebook scene started in Medellin. Is this a unique Medellin thing? The girls on Facebook are so young, yet they are super professional. I'm impressed.

I like the Mansion's atmosphere; I will probably go there once or twice a week. The cover charge is a bit steep, though.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374506]Parque Lleras (I guess autocorrect got you) isn't in El Centro. It's in El Poblado. The difference is night and day. Especially since daytime is the best time in El Centro and nighttime is the best time in Parque Lleras.

Strip clubs. If you're just going for a beer, the El Centro clubs are better. You can have 10 beers and spend less than 1 beer (plus cover) at Fase Dos. Fase Dos is better if you're taking a girl. Rooms are much better and the selection is slightly better. But you'll spend a lot more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, I don't plan to go to strip clubs in Medellin anymore. I will stick with Gusto, the Mansion, and Facebook girls.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2374684]Is the math correct? The least expensive beer at Conejita is 6 K. Beer at New Life which is not a strip club is 4 K.[/QUOTE]Probably not. I can't remember if Fase Dos cover charge is 10 k or 20 k, but I'm pretty sure the beers were 20 k.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2374391]So I am curious why your posting about your experience about this casa. Is it to let others know that Melissa at this casa is good if you want a massage, but a terrible fuck. I am assuming you had never been with her before, so how were the two others that you went with at this casa, good fucks and terrible massage? Was the 85 Mil for an hour? I haven't been to a casa in years so am curious about your experience, maybe I need to change my routine from all the street urchins I do.[/QUOTE]I have posted about an earlier experience at Tantra a few weeks ago. I have done street walkers and casas. I prefer casas. I finally did a good looking Venezuelan street walker last week. Problem was an offensive smell down there even after shower. My fault, I should have bathed her myself which I could have done. Well, next time. Definitely not saying that all will be like that. I am sure most are clean. I tend to be too lazy in mongering and casas are perfect for the lazy hobbyist.

[QUOTE=MGrover;2374712]Any advice on ATM's? Which ones allow the most to pull out at a time? Whats the max withdrawal? Do any charge ATM use fees for withdrawing? I'm coming from the UK so won't be exchanging dollars, ATM's will be my main source of getting funds with there.[/QUOTE]Scotiabank (formerly Citibank) ATM's will give between 1.2-2 millones de pesos, and Davivienda will usually give 2. Scotiabank will charge about a 16 mil service charge (which is refunded by Schwab and other banks that do that). Avoid Bancolombia ATMs, they will only cough-up about 600 mil with a lot of fees and other issues. This information is based on using a US based debit card. Also, sometimes it depends on exactly which ATM location you use, but generally Davivienda is the best for max withdrawal at once. Cheers.

[QUOTE=MGrover;2374712]Any advice on ATM's? Which ones allow the most to pull out at a time? Whats the max withdrawal? Do any charge ATM use fees for withdrawing? I'm coming from the UK so won't be exchanging dollars, ATM's will be my main source of getting funds with there.[/QUOTE]I stick to Banco Colpatria because it was the one that let me take out 900,000 max. (Crappy banco Colombia has been 600,000 max.) Moreover with my Schwab card $0 fee and an amazing exchange rate which seems to be better than the Interbank rate never mind the garbage rates of exchange houses.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2374715]I'm very fascinated about the Facebook scene, in the US, this is almost unthinkable. It feels like an active subculture in Medellin. I'm curious to find out how the Facebook scene started in Medellin. Is this a unique Medellin thing? The girls on Facebook are so young, yet they are super professional. I'm impressed.[/QUOTE]As many hookers as there are in the US on Instagram and Tinder, what do you mean it is unthinkable? It is no subculture; it is just plain advertising. In different places hookers use different sites to advertise. In Medellin, Facebook just happens to be one of them.

[QUOTE=MGrover;2374712]Any advice on ATM's? Which ones allow the most to pull out at a time? Whats the max withdrawal? Do any charge ATM use fees for withdrawing? I'm coming from the UK so won't be exchanging dollars, ATM's will be my main source of getting funds with there.[/QUOTE]Which ATM allows the biggest withdrawal depends on something other than the local bank. I was with someone recently who made a withdrawal from a Davivienda ATM and he could only pull 720 k at a time. I used the same ATM and it allowed 2 million for a max withdrawal.

Banco Pichincha and Davivienda don't have ATM fees. Banco Colombia, Servibanco and Citibank charge a fee.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2374522]Calle 51 and Avenida Cundinamarca.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure El Pollo Negros thick Vennie is in that shot.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2374862]As many hookers as there are in the US on Instagram and Tinder, what do you mean it is unthinkable? It is no subculture; it is just plain advertising. In different places hookers use different sites to advertise. In Medellin, Facebook just happens to be one of them.[/QUOTE]It is much more controlled in the US. Craigslist, backpage and City Vibe all got shutdown by the government. I guess I could try to message girls on Instagram in the you. S, but I have a feel it's going to cost 800+ per hour.

[QUOTE=Putero1;2374836]Scotiabank (formerly Citibank) ATM's will give between 1.2-2 millones de pesos, and Davivienda will usually give 2. Scotiabank will charge about a 16 mil service charge (which is refunded by Schwab and other banks that do that). Avoid Bancolombia ATMs, they will only cough-up about 600 mil with a lot of fees and other issues. This information is based on using a US based debit card. Also, sometimes it depends on exactly which ATM location you use, but generally Davivienda is the best for max withdrawal at once. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I discovered another Scotiabank ATM in San Diego mall.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2374734]Probably not. I can't remember if Fase Dos cover charge is 10 k or 20 k, but I'm pretty sure the beers were 20 k.[/QUOTE]Cover is 10 mil and beers are 20 mil. Two weeks ago and older guy bartender tried to charge me 22 mil for a Carona. I told him no it's only 20 mil. We argued back and forth until he finally relented and charged me 20. Made me wonder if the beers are really suppose to cost 22 mil at La Isla or if they've been stealing 2 mil from me on every beer purchased. Cover is also 10 mil pesos at La Isla - it's the only english the door man knows lol (the word TEN). He's a very friendly cool guy though. Always feel much more welcome entering La Isla than I do Fase Dos.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374953]Cover is 10 mil and beers are 20 mil. Two weeks ago and older guy bartender tried to charge me 22 mil for a Carona. I told him no it's only 20 mil. We argued back and forth until he finally relented and charged me 20. Made me wonder if the beers are really suppose to cost 22 mil at La Isla or if they've been stealing 2 mil from me on every beer purchased. Cover is also 10 mil pesos at La Isla - it's the only english the door man knows lol (the word TEN). He's a very friendly cool guy though. Always feel much more welcome entering La Isla than I do Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]Many restaurants automatically add a 10% service charge. Sounds like that may be what is happening.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374953]Cover is 10 mil and beers are 20 mil. Two weeks ago and older guy bartender tried to charge me 22 mil for a Carona. I told him no it's only 20 mil. We argued back and forth until he finally relented and charged me 20. Made me wonder if the beers are really suppose to cost 22 mil at La Isla or if they've been stealing 2 mil from me on every beer purchased. Cover is also 10 mil pesos at La Isla - it's the only english the door man knows lol (the word TEN). He's a very friendly cool guy though. Always feel much more welcome entering La Isla than I do Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]I don't remember the beer price but it seems the minimum drink price is 25 mils. I think the waiters at La Isla are trained better. They are always polite. A waiter I frequently use always writes the numbers on a small notepad he carries to avoid confusion.

Any tips on finding a girl with some milky tits?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2374956]Many restaurants automatically add a 10% service charge. Sounds like that may be what is happening.[/QUOTE]Bars that just serve drinks do not add 10% service charge to the cost of drinks. There is a law that is typically not followed where eating establishments must advise you in writing that they will be adding 10% as a service charge. Most places will ask if they can add the 10% as it really is a tip when you ask for the bill. Technically, by law, the restaurants must advise you in writing about this if they intend to add the 10% without asking you before hand, and it will either be posted somewhere or on the menu. However some of the finer restaurants in Poblado / Laureles will just automatically add it. If your eating in El Centro where the locals eat, it will be never be added as most locals don't tip.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2375015]Any tips on finding a girl with some milky tits?[/QUOTE]If this is what your looking for, perhaps you should be looking for some mothers breast feeding their babies and ask for a feeding. Not sure how much it might cost though. Not sure where you should be looking though. Maybe you might find one in El Centro. My bet is there are a few there, but not sure how you would know. Sounds like a tall order to fill. You might have to settle for a milk shake with a long straw. Good Luck!

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2375015]Any tips on finding a girl with some milky tits?[/QUOTE]Go there, wait about 17 minutes, grab the first preggo Vennie you see. There are thousands of them, I saw a new pregnant Vennie every day, and I saw many breast feeding. They will be extremely happy for the date, trust me. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2375015]Any tips on finding a girl with some milky tits?[/QUOTE]In my 47 years of mongering only country I ever got that was India.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2375025]Bars that just serve drinks do not add 10% service charge to the cost of drinks. There is a law that is typically not followed where eating establishments must advise you in writing that they will be adding 10% as a service charge. Most places will ask if they can add the 10% as it really is a tip when you ask for the bill. Technically, by law, the restaurants must advise you in writing about this if they intend to add the 10% without asking you before hand, and it will either be posted somewhere or on the menu. However some of the finer restaurants in Poblado / Laureles will just automatically add it. If your eating in El Centro where the locals eat, it will be never be added as most locals don't tip.[/QUOTE]In the finer restaurants, on the check, there will be 2 prices (if they don't ask: "desea incluir servicio? One with the 10% added and one without. There's also a paragraph explaining that the tip is voluntary. Only once, when dining with Colombians, did I see someone refuse the tip. However, it depends on what estrato the person is.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2375075]Go there, wait about 17 minutes, grab the first preggo Vennie you see. There are thousands of them, I saw a new pregnant Vennie every day, and I saw many breast feeding. They will be extremely happy for the date, trust me. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I think your girl is in one of those street captures. . I'll probably pass by there this afternoon to assess the situation. How much a taxi from Poblado?

I am happy to find an enthusiastic SB here, but am underwhelmed by BJ skills. I don't think I have ever been with a bi-sexual woman who was very good at DT.

There are some prepares on mileroticos that advertise this service but would welcome thoughts / advice.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2375136]In my 47 years of mongering only country I ever got that was India.[/QUOTE]You sound like a young whipper snapper! I can remember once in Tijuana going with a girl who was lactating and when she got on top and was riding me, the milk started flowing onto my chest. It kind of grossed me out, and I felt sorry for her baby, an old fart took it's afternoon libation.

I couldn't imagine sucking on some lactating Putas nipples, but I guess some guys really like this!

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375154]I think your girl is in one of those street captures. . I'll probably pass by there this afternoon to assess the situation. How much a taxi from Poblado?[/QUOTE]Now there is going to be a stampede of Mongers looking for lactating Putas in El Centro, and a shortage of milk for their babies.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2375164]I am happy to find an enthusiastic SB here, but am underwhelmed by BJ skills. I don't think I have ever been with a bi-sexual woman who was very good at DT.

There are some prepares on mileroticos that advertise this service but would welcome thoughts / advice.[/QUOTE]In post #31267 of this thread, I reviewed Nikol. She can go deeper than most chicas. She wasn't a keeper in my book. She is on photosprepagos and mileroticos.

Do a search using 3114134490.

Deep throat was a 50 k upcharge.

About a lactating chica, PM me, I have a few, they are in the parque Botero area. If you are serious, I can help you. Rooms are only 20 mil at zona roja hotel. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375154]I think your girl is in one of those street captures. . I'll probably pass by there this afternoon to assess the situation. How much a taxi from Poblado?[/QUOTE]Tops, plus it shouldn't cost more than 15 mil, keep your wits. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2375197]In post #31267 of this thread, I reviewed Nikol. She can go deeper than most chicas. She wasn't a keeper in my book. She is on photosprepagos and mileroticos.

Do a search using 3114134490.

Deep throat was a 50 k upcharge.[/QUOTE]I guess I am a rookie in hearing that Chicas are charging extra for deep throat. Doesn't sound fair and I am going to write my congresswoman about this. It might make sense if there was a sliding scale based on size, so a well endowed customer is going to be paying more, while the guys less endowed don't incur an up charge.

None of the Chicas I go with charge extra for this as it is included, and most of them can take the lumber. I can remember once ordering a Cesar salad and asked for some anchovies to be put on top of the salad and was told there was an up charge for the anchovies. Blew me away, a Cesar salad without anchovies isn't a Cesar salad, and a BJ that doesn't include deep throat isn't a BJ in my book. And having to pay 50 K extra, not a keeper for sure! And God forbid if you came in her mouth and she didn't swallow. Dis-respectful to say the least.

I visited Energy for the first time yesterday. I got there around 1 pm, the place is easy to find. A friendly mamasan greeted me at the door; she led me to a waiting area with a fish tank. Using google translate, she explained to me the full service plus massage is 150. After I agreed to the price, she handed me a piece of paper and a pen to write down the girl's number. Then in a sequence, she showed me about 15 girls. Each girl came in the room individually to greet me (this process reminds me of the brothels in Amsterdam). The girl's quality range from 4-8. I picked Wendy, a 20-year-old hot girl with red hair. In terms of looks, Wendy is probably the best looking one among all the girls there. I had no chance to negotiate service, the moment I picked Wendy's Number, she came out and led me to the room upstairs.

The room is clean and basic. There is a shower, a bed, and a wall mirror. The first sign of trouble is when Wendy refuses to shower together; we took turns to shower. After the shower, she initiated a frail massage; this is probably one of the worst massages I have ever received. There is absolutely no pressure at all; she just slid her hands across my back for 10 minutes. After the back massage I turned around, she put on a condom and give me a passable CBJ. There is DFK, and she refuses to let me suck on her tits or kiss her body. After about two minutes of CBJ, we started fucking. Her pussy is super tight, and she looks fantastic, we fucked for about 10 minutes until I cum. Afterward, we showered separately and walked out of the room. The Mamasan smiled at me and asked whether it was good. I nodded and walked out.

This is a below-average experience. I probably will never return to Energy again, especially when there are a ton of Facebook girls available.

Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375271]Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]How much was the taxi? LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2375197]In post #31267 of this thread, I reviewed Nikol. She can go deeper than most chicas. She wasn't a keeper in my book. She is on photosprepagos and mileroticos.

Do a search using 3114134490.

Deep throat was a 50 k upcharge.[/QUOTE]Just saw her yesterday. Her face is def older then 33 with a bit of a smokers face. The see section scar was photoshoped out really well.

She seemed very hyper like maybe she did a couple lines before. The oral natural was pretty good but I paid extra for a facial and she dodge a HUGE shot of the first load and let it land on her chest. I was a little disapointed in that. Also she just had plasma transfered into her ass to make it more plumb and because of that I had to fuck her on this inflatable donut when we did missionary. Overall, it was ok but not worth the money. Odd thing is after the session she kept texting me about her kid and then sends me a photo of the kid who is apprently sick. Like WTF? That was a little weird and personal.

I'm about to take my first trip to Medellin soon, I plan to investigate a few options I have learned about on this forum, I will report on my adventure afterwards. About Facebook, I think I have been fairly diligent in my search for FB prepagos, I lost count after about 110 profiles and have many Colombianas that probably are not prepagos as confirmed by messaging. I have many that I will not want to set up citas with buy added them for backup and some that have encountered that I will avoid for reasons of not wanting to be that guy on the news who went to a Colombian prison.

Finding all these chicas was time consuming and of course I owe a thanks to those on here that showed me the bread crumb trail to follow. For this reason I will have no problem after my trip in leaving these profiles to posterity by posting links to profiles, while I probably will not post all 100 plus I will post profiles that have the most friends who are prepago.

In about two weeks I'll post how my experience went.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2375281]How much was the taxi? LOL.[/QUOTE]You are going to get somebody hurt. Glad it wasn't me. Really nasty scene guys. I don't need cheap pussy that bad. Especially what was walking around there.

Last time in MDE had one squirt milk all over a BBBJ and thought it was hot af. I don't want oreos and milk just yet.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2375176]You sound like a young whipper snapper! I can remember once in Tijuana going with a girl who was lactating and when she got on top and was riding me, the milk started flowing onto my chest. It kind of grossed me out, and I felt sorry for her baby, an old fart took it's afternoon libation.

I couldn't imagine sucking on some lactating Putas nipples, but I guess some guys really like this![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375271]Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, truly a bottom feeders locale. Those guys that partake in the skanks that roam the streets of El Centro are good candidates for a frontal lobotomy. It's truly horrific in El Centro with all the glue sniffers, drunks, deaf mutes, transvestites, and other freaks! The thought upon arriving in El Centro and seeing the circus there reminds me of a scene from the movie Forrest Gump when Forrest is told to run. The place most definitely should be avoided at all costs!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2375283]Just saw her yesterday. Her face is def older then 33 with a bit of a smokers face. The see section scar was photoshoped out really well.
She seemed very hyper like maybe she did a couple lines before. The oral natural was pretty good but I paid extra for a facial and she dodge a HUGE shot of the first load and let it land on her chest. I was a little disapointed in that. Also she just had plasma transfered into her ass to make it more plumb and because of that I had to fuck her on this inflatable donut when we did missionary. Overall, it was ok but not worth the money. Odd thing is after the session she kept texting me about her kid and then sends me a photo of the kid who is apprently sick. Like WTF? That was a little weird and personal.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a very dis-respectful Lady dodging a load that was intended to land on her face, are you sure you didn't miss. I hope she gave you some of your money back though. I am curious about the Inflatable Doughnut, in other words she had a botched "Butt Job" requiring the Doughnut to support what sounds like a jelly bean ass.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375271]Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]ROFLMAO! Reading this made my day.

What did you expect? Cancun? Sosua?

However, I have always warned that presenting Centro to first time visitors or casual ISG readers as an easy safe place to visit, as a grab-to-go place open to anyone, is IRRESPONSIBLE. One day one will get hurt.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2375203]Tops, plus it shouldn't cost more than 15 mil, keep your wits. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Take the metro. 2550 COP I think is the current price and Parque Berrio station is a 3 minute walk from Plaza Botero. Ride is about 5 minutes from the Poblado station.

Taxi should be under 15 k, but depending on the time of day can take 15-30 minutes.

In my research for my first trip Medellin I have read 50 pages off this site. MDE looks like a city that I could spent some time in. I am looking at an apartment in Laureles.

Looks like a nice area to spend time in. I think it would make sence to in my first 2 days to take a city tour. When checking out the tours and comments from past customers, Many comments are bad. Anyone have any comments.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375312]You are going to get somebody hurt. Glad it wasn't me. Really nasty scene guys. I don't need cheap pussy that bad. Especially what was walking around there.[/QUOTE]I keep telling people that El Centro isn't for everyone. There are people who have no business going there. But the problem isn't with El Centro. Millions of Colombians are there every week. Thousands of tourists go through there as well. Most of them get along just fine.

Myself, I can't imagine a trip to Medellin without spending some time walking El Centro. Staying the whole time in Poblado or Laureles is like vacationing at a world class beach and sitting at the hotel pool.

El Centro is dirty, gritty, noisy and busy. There are times and places where people are packed like sardines. You'll see things that might offend or scare you. But what you're seeing are just average people, going about their lives and trying to get by. They aren't evil or dangerous, just poor.

Anyone that wants to venture out to Parque Lleras, try riding the metro. Just walk down the hill on Calle 10 to the Poblado station. If you can handle the plaza by the station, buy a ticket and get on. It doesn't matter which direction. The first ride is just to give you a chance to stand next to a bunch of poor people without having a panic attack.

Once you're comfortable, take the metro to the Parque Berrio station. Exit the station and spend some time observing Parque Berrio. See the girls walking around selling cups of tinto (coffee). See the people talking, or just sitting around people watching. All just normal people, doing normal things.

From there you have many options. You can walk east through the alley next to the church, past all the vendors selling porn DVDs, to the next street, turn left, cross the street and be in the Junin walking street. There's a McDonald's if you get too nervous. Or try Hacienda for a good, but overpriced, Colombian meal. At the north end of the walking street you'll find Parque Bolivar, although it was closed for construction in July. Be careful of the hookers in the area, some are trannies. When Parque Bolivar is open, there's a big flea market on Saturday.

Or, from Parque Berrio you can walk south, towards San Antonio station. Turn west and you'll find thousands of shops selling cheap clothing. Practically every building is a mini mall. Some stores are no bigger than a hotel bathroom. Just a few blocks from the San Antonio station you'll find the street of shoes, nothing but kiosks selling sneakers.

I find the whole area fascinating. That's Medellin. Poblado is pretty, but it has no personality.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2375255]The Mamasan smiled at me and asked whether it was good. I nodded and walked out.

This is a below-average experience. I probably will never return to Energy again,[/QUOTE]So why would you tell them it was good when it wasn't? Now they will give the next guy the same shitty experience because the last guy did not provide honest feedback.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2375429]In my research for my first trip Medellin I have read 50 pages off this site. MDE looks like a city that I could spent some time in. I am looking at an apartment in Laureles.

Looks like a nice area to spend time in. I think it would make sence to in my first 2 days to take a city tour. When checking out the tours and comments from past customers, Many comments are bad. Anyone have any comments.[/QUOTE]Bite the bullet and take a City tour, not bad to get some History of the City, and go on a tour that includes the VeraCruz Church area. Look around very closely in this area, and if this area makes your skin crawl, than you scratch this area off as a venue to enjoy the Senoritas of Medellin.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2375429]

Looks like a nice area to spend time in. I think it would make sence to in my first 2 days to take a city tour. When checking out the tours and comments from past customers, Many comments are bad. Anyone have any comments.[/QUOTE]I have taken a few. I think they are overpriced even the free ones will tell you how much a paid tour cost and expect too much tips. You pretty much can just walk around these places by yourself.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2375408]ROFLMAO! Reading this made my day.

What did you expect? Cancun? Sosua?

However, I have always warned that presenting Centro to first time visitors or casual ISG readers as an easy safe place to visit, as a grab-to-go place open to anyone, is IRRESPONSIBLE. One day one will get hurt.[/QUOTE]Glue heads and. Brainless zombies, LOL. Night of the living dead. The girls on one block were scary too. One pipe that actually actually grab my hat and ran away with it. Hilarious. Someone should do a Airbnb experience tour the freak show.

Just for reference I walked, the Basurto Market in Cartegena is a cakewalk comparted to night of the living dead Glueheads

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375526]Glue heads and. Brainless zombies, LOL. Night of the living dead. The girls on one block were scary too. One pipe that actually actually grab my hat and ran away with it. Hilarious. Someone should do a Airbnb experience tour the freak show.

Just for reference I walked, the Basurto Market which is supposedly dangerous is a cakewalk compared to this.[/QUOTE]The place may seem ghoulish to you, but for others, it is paradise.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2375541]The place may seem ghoulish to you, but for others, it is paradise.[/QUOTE]I had told a buddy about a cheap place we used to go to in Rio called 85. It had 6 floors of hores. He checked it out and said he left right up out of the place. He was too good for the hores there. He is what you would call a snooty monger. He has to have his mongering with a smattering of Grey Poupon and Dom Perignon. For me it's a hole and a heartbeat, heartbeat optional.

Then the first time I took my dad to Vila Mimosa in Rio he was the same way. But when we went back, he took to it like a fish to water. Some people just have to get over the initial shock.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375526]One pipe that actually actually grab my hat and ran away with it. Hilarious. [/QUOTE]What I find hilarious is imagining you walking around the Centro with such a hat that it caught so much the imagination of people, to even move someone to steal it! I never saw anything like that. How could you go around dressed like that?

I hope it was not a cowboy hat in perfect Texas Style, otherwise it would be so much hilarious that it would fit with Mr. Bean. This is not Dallas, it's not even "Columbia": it's Medellin, Colombia.

However, it's not entirely your fault, but also of those who teased you so much to lead you to imagine the place was "Pussy-for-All Paradise". It is not. If you read more, you should know. Addressing unaware tourists to the Centro like if it was Banana Beach is irresponsible, period.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375526]Just for reference I walked, the Basurto Market in Cartegena is a cakewalk comparted to night of the living dead Glueheads[/QUOTE]Bazurto is a market, not a red light district, not a place with gangs. What's the thrill in walking at Bazurto, if not to buy fruit or just looking at exotic Colombian real genuine people without tourists around?

The Centro of Medellin is much more enjoyable than, say, the Bronx in NYC 25 years ago. I remember there were also tour operators for stupid tourists, who were taking folks on a bus to feel the thrill to go to streets infested by gangs. Local guys, of course paid by the tour operator, were also attacking the bus with chains and sticks, to make those tourists to feel the heart break.

By the way, since I mentioned the Bronx, I understand you don't know what was the BRONX in Bogota, neither you have even approached it from side streets. That was a place not suitable even for Darth Vader!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2375541]The place may seem ghoulish to you, but for others, it is paradise.[/QUOTE]
I had to check my dictionary to find "ghoulish". I thought you meant "gluish" LOL.

You know a really nice place there, where one does not need to be DV to feel well?
I do not remember its name, but almost at the side of the Museo de Antioquia (at right, looking at the museum) there is a very traditional place full of billiard tables, with old photos and frames to the walls, cheap beers, and 100% paisa people playing. I spent 2 hours there, but many years ago.
No, no girls servicing there. Only men in Juan Valdez style with moustache and hat (of course, see: hats are important in Medellin!).

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375526]Someone should do a Airbnb experience tour the freak show.[/QUOTE]
I understand you missed the best of the Centro: the Museo de Antioquia, with 3 floors of paintings, 1 almost entirely dedicated to Botero. It is one of the main art institutions of Colombia. Museo de Antioquia and Museo de la Moneda in Bogota are the two museums where most master pieces of Botero are on display. Go there, you will thank me.

Besides New Life can anyone tell me the name of some good casas in Medellin.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2375560]What I find hilarious is imagining you walking around the Centro with such a hat that it caught so much the imagination of people, to even move someone to steal it! I never saw anything like that. How could you go around dressed like that?

I hope it was not a cowboy hat in perfect Texas Style, otherwise it would be so much hilarious that it would fit with Mr. Bean. This is not Dallas, it's not even "Columbia": it's Medellin, Colombia.

However, it's not entirely your fault, but also of those who teased you so much to lead you to imagine the place was "Pussy-for-All Paradise". It is not. If you read more, you should know. Addressing unaware tourists to the Centro like if it was Banana Beach is irresponsible, period.

Bazurto is a market, not a red light district, not a place with gangs. What's the thrill in walking at Bazurto, if not to buy fruit or just looking at exotic Colombian real genuine people without tourists around?

The Centro of Medellin is much more enjoyable than, say, the Bronx in NYC 25 years ago. I remember there were also tour operators for stupid tourists, who were taking folks on a bus to feel the thrill to go to streets infested by gangs. Local guys, of course paid by the tour operator, were also attacking the bus with chains and sticks, to make those tourists to feel the heart break.

By the way, since I mentioned the Bronx, I understand you don't know what was the BRONX in Bogota, neither you have even approached it from side streets. That was a place not suitable even for Darth Vader![/QUOTE]Hunts Point, amigo. Lived in the city 49 years.

Know my way around the block. Had a good laugh with my Paisa friend today. He said he wouldn't fuck a Centro chica with three condoms. Good luck.

Hey bros,

For the new guys or those that need help moving around Medellin. I posting my friend she helped me a lot when I first got to ctg. And now she's in mde. So hit her up if you need help. Speaks 100 % English and knows everything. She charged 30 bucks and will take care of you. Peace.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/alexandra.indriago[/URL]

I am a Centro rat. I don't live there but I spend a lot of time there. I don't know what Kafka expected or imagined. There are youtube videos and more written descriptions on this website than anybody has time to read. The finding diamonds expression says it all. If you devote the time you can win. It's not for everybody. Casas and strip clubs are quicker surer things with better clothing, makeup and comfort. It's all good. Me personally, I use Veracruz / Raudal to break up the routine, to pass time, and to find those diamonds when they are there. I have more personal contacts who I can call and meet than I have time. I like variety. I can afford the better strip clubs but I don't enjoy them because of the silicone, the noise, and the general atmosphere. There is no wrong or right answer to this, it's about personal preferences. I go to casas too, mostly in Centro. It's all good, enjoy.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2375391]I couldn't agree with you more, truly a bottom feeders locale. Those guys that partake in the skanks that roam the streets of El Centro are good candidates for a frontal lobotomy. It's truly horrific in El Centro with all the glue sniffers, drunks, deaf mutes, transvestites, and other freaks! The thought upon arriving in El Centro and seeing the circus there reminds me of a scene from the movie Forrest Gump when Forrest is told to run. The place most definitely should be avoided at all costs![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2375475]So why would you tell them it was good when it wasn't? Now they will give the next guy the same shitty experience because the last guy did not provide honest feedback.[/QUOTE]True. I should have told her that the service is at best, mediocre. I always find it difficult to give negative feedback. I don't speak Spanish, and I did feel like google translate my complaint in front of the girl and her boss.

Yo, Hunts Point was hectic back in the day. Mostly Dominicans, everybody up in there was coked up and thirsty. Real talk: Centro is Disneyland by comparison.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375618]Hunts Point, amigo. Lived in the city 49 years.

Know my way around the block. Had a good laugh with my Paisa friend today. He said he wouldn't fuck a Centro chica with three condoms. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2375668]I am a Centro rat. I don't live there but I spend a lot of time there. I don't know what Kafka expected or imagined. There are youtube videos and more written descriptions on this website than anybody has time to read. [/QUOTE]I tell people to stay off of youtube. Being somewhere live and in person is a totally different experience than looking at it on a screen. You must go see for yourself.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2375673]True. I should have told her that the service is at best, mediocre. I always find it difficult to give negative feedback. I don't speak Spanish, and I did feel like google translate my complaint in front of the girl and her boss.[/QUOTE]Here's two phrases you can use:

"Mas o menos".

"Asi, asi".

That's "more or less" and " so-so. " Both are the equivalent of "not very good, but I don't want to say bad. " In English we would just say "it was okay", meaning it was acceptable, no more. But in Colombia it's considered more negative.

My advice is to avoid the hottest girl at any casa. She gets picked more than the rest. She already knows she will make her money. Why put forth any extra effort?

I always look for the right attitude. Read the body language. Some clearly don't want you to pick them. Some are desperate for anyone to pick them. Some don't really care. Usually there will be 1 or 2 who look like they are daring you to try them. In my experience, those are the ones who give the best performance.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2375570]Besides New Life can anyone tell me the name of some good casas in Medellin.[/QUOTE]New Life, Aiffe, Club Sexxy Amigas, Energy, Tantra, Yakusa, Casa de Piedra (aka Lindas Chicas).

[QUOTE=SJobs;2375255]I visited Energy for the first time yesterday...

This is a below-average experience. I probably will never return to Energy again, especially when there are a ton of Facebook girls available.[/QUOTE]Casa's are not my cup of tea, but I've been to Energy once. One reason I don't like casa's is because, with the antiseptic picking process and atmosphere, there is a certain pressure once in the room to just let the girl take control and treat you like a piece of meat. To counter that, I've learned to just not allow that to happen. There is a saying in Spanish, 'Yo pago yo recibo,' - the customer is king. If a girl anywhere tries to put a condom on me for a blowjob, I just say No firmly and smile - "I don't do that. " I wouldn't let her give me a fake massage. A real hardened tute might argue or whatever, but usually most of the young girls have no idea what to do at that point. That's when you just take control, start kissing. Doing what you want and one thing leads to another. Even in the Casa's the girls will do pretty much anything, and some will just ask for an extra tip. It is like salsa dancing, never let the girl lead.

I agree youtube is no substitute for experiencing the real thing. It is useful to get a an idea of what to expect. I've read stuff on here that makes me thing guys expect to see Veracruz lined with clones of Shakira and Sofia Vergara.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2375708]I tell people to stay off of youtube. Being somewhere live and in person is a totally different experience than looking at it on a screen. You must go see for yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2375714]New Life, Aiffe, Club Sexxy Amigas, Energy, Tantra, Yakusa, Casa de Piedra (aka Lindas Chicas).[/QUOTE]Should we remind there is the List?

[QUOTE=Putero1;2375898]Casa's are not my cup of tea, but I've been to Energy once. One reason I don't like casa's is because, with the antiseptic picking process and atmosphere, there is a certain pressure once in the room to just let the girl take control and treat you like a piece of meat. To counter that, I've learned to just not allow that to happen. There is a saying in Spanish, 'Yo pago yo recibo,' - the customer is king. If a girl anywhere tries to put a condom on me for a blowjob, I just say No firmly and smile - "I don't do that. " I wouldn't let her give me a fake massage. A real hardened tute might argue or whatever, but usually most of the young girls have no idea what to do at that point. That's when you just take control, start kissing. Doing what you want and one thing leads to another. Even in the Casa's the girls will do pretty much anything, and some will just ask for an extra tip. It is like salsa dancing, never let the girl lead.[/QUOTE]Good advice, thank you. I might give casa one more try before I leave Medellin. Will report back.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2375663]Hey bros,

For the new guys or those that need help moving around Medellin. I posting my friend she helped me a lot when I first got to ctg. And now she's in mde. So hit her up if you need help. Speaks 100 % English and knows everything. She charged 30 bucks and will take care of you. Peace.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/alexandra.indriago[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah but did she fuck you and your mothafucking momma? LOL!

I wonder were she learned her English.

Hey guys,

I'm going to Medellin for the first time over the Christmas break. Are there any guest friendly hotels near Parque Lleras. I also reached out to Hotel Medellin M, aka the Mansion. Do you recommend staying there and how are the pickings? I've been to the Del Rey many times and was thinking that the Mansion is like that. Is that true? Sorry for so many questions but I'm a newbie in MDE and have been spoiled by the Rey and Sportsman Lodge in SJ CR. Thanks in advance guys and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375271]Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. But it is educational in the sense that at least now you know what the bottom looks like. Jajaja.

That sucks man, yeah casa can be hit or miss, they are not all winners just like the FB girls, I am not trying to defend it at all. But Casa will be a lot more mechanical because time is money, usually everything will be extra in the casas. I have never gotten a massage in a casa why even bother, I am not there for that. LOL. BBBJ usually is with additional tip always in all cases, and all other extras as well. But to tell you the truth the hottest girl I have ever been with was in Energy a couple years ago, blonde girl named Melisa, WOW! She was a legit 9. 5 (I don't give out 10) yes the extras were more $ but totally worth it. I had some really good pictures of her on old phone.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2375255]I visited Energy for the first time yesterday. I got there around 1 pm, the place is easy to find. A friendly mamasan greeted me at the door; she led me to a waiting area with a fish tank. Using google translate, she explained to me the full service plus massage is 150. After I agreed to the price, she handed me a piece of paper and a pen to write down the girl's number. Then in a sequence, she showed me about 15 girls. Each girl came in the room individually to greet me (this process reminds me of the brothels in Amsterdam). The girl's quality range from 4-8. I picked Wendy, a 20-year-old hot girl with red hair. In terms of looks, Wendy is probably the best looking one among all the girls there. I had no chance to negotiate service, the moment I picked Wendy's Number, she came out and led me to the room upstairs.

The room is clean and basic. There is a shower, a bed, and a wall mirror. The first sign of trouble is when Wendy refuses to shower together; we took turns to shower. After the shower, she initiated a frail massage; this is probably one of the worst massages I have ever received. There is absolutely no pressure at all; she just slid her hands across my back for 10 minutes. After the back massage I turned around, she put on a condom and give me a passable CBJ. There is DFK, and she refuses to let me suck on her tits or kiss her body. After about two minutes of CBJ, we started fucking. Her pussy is super tight, and she looks fantastic, we fucked for about 10 minutes until I cum. Afterward, we showered separately and walked out of the room. The Mamasan smiled at me and asked whether it was good. I nodded and walked out.

This is a below-average experience. I probably will never return to Energy again, especially when there are a ton of Facebook girls available.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2376137]yeah casa can be hit or miss, they are not all winners just like the FB girls
[/QUOTE]You are right. You can't judge the entire casa based on one visit. Thailand is miles ahead in these types of setup for under $100/2 hours.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2375255]I visited Energy for the first time yesterday. I got there around 1 pm, the place is easy to find. A friendly mamasan greeted me at the door; she led me to a waiting area with a fish tank. Using google translate, she explained to me the full service plus massage is 150. After I agreed to the price, she handed me a piece of paper and a pen to write down the girl's number. Then in a sequence, she showed me about 15 girls. Each girl came in the room individually to greet me (this process reminds me of the brothels in Amsterdam). The girl's quality range from 4-8. I picked Wendy, a 20-year-old hot girl with red hair. In terms of looks, Wendy is probably the best looking one among all the girls there. I had no chance to negotiate service, the moment I picked Wendy's Number, she came out and led me to the room upstairs.

The room is clean and basic. There is a shower, a bed, and a wall mirror. The first sign of trouble is when Wendy refuses to shower together; we took turns to shower. After the shower, she initiated a frail massage; this is probably one of the worst massages I have ever received. There is absolutely no pressure at all; she just slid her hands across my back for 10 minutes. After the back massage I turned around, she put on a condom and give me a passable CBJ. There is DFK, and she refuses to let me suck on her tits or kiss her body. After about two minutes of CBJ, we started fucking. Her pussy is super tight, and she looks fantastic, we fucked for about 10 minutes until I cum. Afterward, we showered separately and walked out of the room. The Mamasan smiled at me and asked whether it was good. I nodded and walked out.

This is a below-average experience. I probably will never return to Energy again, especially when there are a ton of Facebook girls available.[/QUOTE]Sounds eerily similar to how my visitations to Energy went. Mechanical sex with only the bare minimum effort at intimacy. I'm so glad I took the time to build up Facebook contacts.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376189]Sounds eerily similar to how my visitations to Energy went. Mechanical sex with only the bare minimum effort at intimacy. I'm so glad I took the time to build up Facebook contacts.[/QUOTE]My go-to is Facebook, particularly a group of ones I enjoy repeating with. However, from time to time, I will visit a casa or a strip club. It's not much different from Facebook. You still need to make a good choice.

If you're only looking for a particular body type, or a certain look, you're not going to always get the best service. In the casas, if that look is the most popular look, you're going to get the bare minimum. You'll have the same problems with Facebook.

The most popular girls don't need to put out the extra effort. You're just one of many options. Some, at least on Facebook, will still give a top performance, because they are looking beyond making enough money for the day. Most will just go through the motions.

Look for the motivated performers. Rather than focusing on the prettiest face or the best body, look for the energy, for the smile and for the right attitude. Those are the ones who aren't getting picked 10 times a day and the ones who are going to work for those pesos.

Just decide what's more important, the best looking girls, or the best sex.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375271]Okay I'm going to make this real simple. Any of these folks that tell you to come to El Centro area outside Botero Plaza. Are out of their fucking mind This is one of the worst scenes that I've ever been around and I have been around quite a few. Avoid the areas in that video at all costs. A complete nightmare..... Strictly for bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]I actually thought about how I would respond to this post, and it's simple, there has to be a superior complex that you have or you are biased to looks and self-perception? And an expensive working girl and a poor working girl are no better than each other. Do you really believe the girls in Poblado are safer than the girls in Centro? Every monger who has called me about any issue sexually has always called about girls that they had dates with from Poblado, but that's just my history with other mongers who I have encountered. Notice you did not mention that you, you personally, where afraid of the scene in Centro. You never documented that anyone harmed you, robbed you, or approached you. You took your perception and told the entire group to stay away from Centro or we would be considered out of our minds.

I have learned that many mongers make themselves believe that if they pay more for services that they are in a much safer environment. I have experienced that dancing with poor quality expensive working girls have the same output as poor quality girls of Centro. You can put makeup and lipstick on a pig and place that pig in Poblado, guess what. You catch my drift. If Centro is not for you then say that and never return, it's just that simple. I truly dislike Poblado, but you will not see me on the board listing why I do not like Poblado, I have mentioned it enough. Tell us the real reason that you did not like Centro, it was a huge museum and a palacio you could have visited and many ice cream shops and restaurants that you could have enjoyed, but the women and glue sniffers made you tell us that we were all out of our minds? OK, I understand, Centro isn't for everyone. But it's the self-proclaimed superior individuals that say Centro is the worst of the worst, even when we are from Hunts Point, now that's calling the kettle black.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2375526]Glue heads and. Brainless zombies, LOL. Night of the living dead. The girls on one block were scary too. One pipe that actually actually grab my hat and ran away with it. Hilarious. Someone should do a Airbnb experience tour the freak show.
Just for reference I walked, the Basurto Market in Cartegena is a cakewalk comparted to night of the living dead Glueheads[/QUOTE]All you had to do was walk away and never return, by the way, a nice report and name of the beauties that you hooked up with in Poblado would be nice, that's what we do here on the board, see girls, report back, and help other mongers. Then again, you couldn't resist reporting about the Glue sniffers? With all of the beautiful girls in Medellin, you took time to writer about Centro twice, but the girls are in Poblado and FB are so much better? We all read the board and are interested, please chime in about your experiences in Poblado, I personally would love to hear about them or she the diamonds that you found in Poblado! Pollo Negro is out!

This afternoon while in Athens Greece I went into what they call a studio (casa) here, and was presented with two women by the Madam. When I asked the women where they were from, to my surprise they said Venezuela. One of them was very cute with a nice body, as good as anything you would see in El Centro, and the other bigger, but not a fugly like so many in El Centro. This was a low end studio, the price was 20 Euros for one of them, and I was offered both of them for 30 Euros by the Madam but chose the cute one only who was shocked that someone was speaking Spanish to her as she later told me she had not had any Spanish speaking clients yet. The session unfortunately was rushed given that the Madam said that the 20 Euros was only for 10 minutes which wasn't the case, I was in the room much longer than that.

It was surprising to encounter Venezuelans working in the equivalent of a low end casa in Medellin in Athens, Greece. I could easily envision the pretty Venezuelan working in a higher end establishment like an FKK in Germany making a lot more money, but not at low end place in Greece. In other words, why would they travel so far to work for what I am assuming to be the same wages. Maybe somebody has a better explanation for this but I find it puzzling. Maybe they do a lot more guys a day.

And as a side note, even though this report probably doesn't belong here, there's some hot looking Romanians working in Athens even at the budget places.

Well I'm back in Trump land after spending a little over 2 months in chica land. I did mostly casas with a smattering of street walkers. I believe I visited all the casas on the list some of which are no longer at the address stated which I mentioned in the appropriate forum. I actually did all the girls in some casas which did not replenish regularly. The best casa for me was undoubtedly New Life. In my last visit there on Thursday there was a presentation of over 30 chicas which was the most I have ever seen there. I decided to choose 30 ish branca Juanita which turned out to be a good choice. She was very jovial and friendly with good service that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Street Scene:

There are gems to be found on the streets but you have to hang around there a lot to capture them. There is a lot of sifting through to be done which requires much time and effort which I could not afford. I did have a few but my casa trips were time better spent.

Fast / unhealthy foods have taken a toll on the girth of our paisas. Some casas like Pamela's featured only wide bodied chicas so for those of you who like them big can head there. As a matter of fact Medellin would be heaven for the monger who favors them large. I found slim good looking working girls hard to come by. However, I can think of no other destination with a better price to product ratio than Medellin and being a price conscious consumer Medellin will always be within my radar.

This is really great advice overall. I like to mix it up too. A big advantage of the facebook scene is you can compare notes about providers with a lot of guys by sharing the profile link. Another advantage for some is guys get to sit on their asses until the girl comes to them. A disadvantage of the facebook scene is it involves a lot more waiting than strip clubs, casas or the street. I think it's especially true with the more active facebook girls. They stack guys and will keep you waiting depending on demand. It's basically the same as uber, surge pricing and longer waits when there is high demand. Casas and strip clubs are the taxi equivalent, always there without a wait and the price is the price, none of this "plus or minus taxi" silliness. It's all good.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2376204]My go-to is Facebook, particularly a group of ones I enjoy repeating with. However, from time to time, I will visit a casa or a strip club. It's not much different from Facebook. You still need to make a good choice.

If you're only looking for a particular body type, or a certain look, you're not going to always get the best service. In the casas, if that look is the most popular look, you're going to get the bare minimum. You'll have the same problems with Facebook.

The most popular girls don't need to put out the extra effort. You're just one of many options. Some, at least on Facebook, will still give a top performance, because they are looking beyond making enough money for the day. Most will just go through the motions.

Look for the motivated performers. Rather than focusing on the prettiest face or the best body, look for the energy, for the smile and for the right attitude. Those are the ones who aren't getting picked 10 times a day and the ones who are going to work for those pesos.

Just decide what's more important, the best looking girls, or the best sex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2376266]Do you really believe the girls in Poblado are safer than the girls in Centro? ...Notice you did not mention that you, you personally, where afraid of the scene in Centro. You never documented that anyone harmed you, robbed you, or approached you. You took your perception and told the entire group to stay away from Centro or we would be considered out of our minds[/QUOTE]It is not that the girls are safer, it is the location. El centro is dangerous for gringos and Colombians too, especially at night. I am afraid to go there and I speak fluent Spanish and have lived in Medellin for a long time. Maybe during the day for the thrill and spend less $, but at night, on foot, it is just one tiny ill advised corner of Ma city full of other options.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376189]Sounds eerily similar to how my visitations to Energy went. Mechanical sex with only the bare minimum effort at intimacy. I'm so glad I took the time to build up Facebook contacts.[/QUOTE]I, too, was very unimpressed with mechanical service at Energy. I tried because I was in the are mid afternoon and it had a star on the list. Will not repeat.

[QUOTE=Putero1;2376337]It is not that the girls are safer, it is the location. El centro is dangerous for gringos and Colombians too, especially at night. I am afraid to go there and I speak fluent Spanish and have lived in Medellin for a long time. Maybe during the day for the thrill and spend less $, but at night, on foot, it is just one tiny ill advised corner of Ma city full of other options.[/QUOTE]I'm really getting tired of all this chatter of the dangers of Centro. If anyone has been paying attention they will know of the many tourists who have been killed, and robbed in the confines of Poblado.

If you are not a scared rabbit then give Centro a look. If you don't dig the scene then don't go anymore. It is really as simple as that.

I cannot energy went down. It used to great couple years ago. I had Fernanda a hottie who was little older than the rest of girls. She was friendly and energetic. Has anyone tried new life or blue room yet. Heard new life didn't have that great of a selection.

Z.

I cannot believe Energy went down. It used to be great a couple years ago. I had Fernanda a hottie who was little older than the rest of girls. She was friendly and energetic. Has anyone tried new life or blue room yet. Heard new life didn't have that great of a selection.

Z.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2376355]I'm really getting tired of all this chatter of the dangers of Centro. If anyone has been paying attention they will know of the many tourists who have been killed, and robbed in the confines of Poblado.

If you are not a scared rabbit then give Centro a look. If you don't dig the scene then don't go anymore. It is really as simple as that.[/QUOTE]The real danger of going to El Centro is wasting your time. I could walk around El Centro for days and not find a chick that is better looking than my maid. And I fuck her for free.

[QUOTE=Zorro;2376397] Heard new life didn't have that great of a selection.

[/QUOTE]Turgid just reported this.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2376285]The best casa for me was undoubtedly New Life. In my last visit there on Thursday there was a presentation of over 30 chicas which was the most I have ever seen there. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376409]The real danger of going to El Centro is wasting your time. I could walk around El Centro for days and not find a chick that is better looking than my maid. And I fuck her for free.[/QUOTE]I'm sure your maid doesn't work for you for free, perhaps the fucking is included in what you pay her to clean your place.

Regardless, I kind of have a similar arrangement, but in reverse. I have a chick I only see on the weekends who stays with me in my apartment, and I give her money, and it includes all the fucking I want, plus cleaning of my apartment, washing of my laundry, and anything else I task her to do. So I guess one could say I'm getting maid services for free. You pay, I pay, nothing is free, but all is good.

On another note, there are members on this board who actually enjoy spending time in El Centro and wouldn't consider it a waste of time. There is such a divide on this Forum, it's kind of like the guys that specifically want "hotties", with looks trumping everything, with the sex being secondary versus the guys looking for the sexual performers. And than there are those who won't get near El Centro, they are into the Facebook Chicas, the Casa's, or the Strip Clubs versus the Street Rats myself included.

I like to poke fun at the other board members, but at the end of the day, we are all here to have fun regardless of how we roll.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2376272]This afternoon while in Athens Greece I went into what they call a studio (casa) here, and was presented with two women by the Madam. When I asked the women where they were from, to my surprise they said Venezuela. One of them was very cute with a nice body, as good as anything you would see in El Centro, and the other bigger, but not a fugly like so many in El Centro. This was a low end studio, the price was 20 Euros for one of them, and I was offered both of them for 30 Euros by the Madam but chose the cute one only who was shocked that someone was speaking Spanish to her as she later told me she had not had any Spanish speaking clients yet. The session unfortunately was rushed given that the Madam said that the 20 Euros was only for 10 minutes which wasn't the case, I was in the room much longer than that.

It was surprising to encounter Venezuelans working in the equivalent of a low end casa in Medellin in Athens, Greece. I could easily envision the pretty Venezuelan working in a higher end establishment like an FKK in Germany making a lot more money, but not at low end place in Greece. In other words, why would they travel so far to work for what I am assuming to be the same wages. Maybe somebody has a better explanation for this but I find it puzzling. Maybe they do a lot more guys a day.

And as a side note, even though this report probably doesn't belong here, there's some hot looking Romanians working in Athens even at the budget places.[/QUOTE]And I forgot to mention the Serbians as well, wow!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2376266]I actually thought about how I would respond to this post, and it's simple, there has to be a superior complex that you have or you are biased to looks and self-perception? And an expensive working girl and a poor working girl are no better than each other. Do you really believe the girls in Poblado are safer than the girls in Centro?[/QUOTE]What you have to realize is that for some guys setting is everything. Then there are other guys that can see past setting when they are getting a quality product at rock bottom prices.

There is a place in Boston called Legal Seafood. Everyone raves about it. I finally went there and the food was freaking expensive and horrible to boot. But the setting was really nice.

Where I am from in Atlanta there was a place called Bankhead Seafood that was smack dab in the hood. The line would always be out the door. They did so much business that they would only open a few hours per day and 3 or 4 days per week. They would pack so much hot, delicious fish in the box that they could barely close it. And it was cheap cheap cheap. I could look past being in the hood for a deal like that, but there are others that probably would not go near the place.

If Wolf and PN posted pictures of their chicks and said they found them in Poblado, then folks would be none the wiser.

I finally made it to La Isla on Thursday night. This place is precisely the type of place that I love. The girls' quality is at the same level as the Globe in Zurich or the Centaurus in Rio, which I believe is the highest quality in the world for people who is not a multi-millionaire. The average look in the club is a solid Colombian 8, which is a San Francisco 11. If you buy a drink or two for the girls, you can sit together with them and make out. Understandably, the girls will consistently push for the room. The cost for the room is 300 K (you can pay with a credit card), the girl I took to the room asked for 100 extra for BBBJ. She is one of the hottest girls I have seen in Medellin, I hopelessly agreed. The room is clean and basic; there is a shower in the room. I tasted my girls' above average DFK while sitting with her. She has a banging body and a Victoria's Secret models' look (unfortunately, I forgot her name). Her BBBJ was excellent, and sex with her is definitely above average. We finished fucking in 20 minutes; she was so hot I couldn't hold any longer than that. Sadly, La Isla's service turned out to be the same as Facebook girls. I paid for 40 minutes, but as soon as we finished fucking, she started to shower and put on clothes. We left the room with a solid 10 minutes on the clock.

I loved the girls and the atmosphere in la Isla so much, I stayed until 4 am. To my surprise, there is an after-party place called Paradise right next to la Isla. Most of the girls from la Isla go there after la Isla closes. Paradise is exactly the type of place I enjoy the most, lots of desperate working girls and very few mongers. I danced with five different girls, my hands and cock explored every part of their body. There is a back entrance for people to get fresh air; from there, you can get a spectacular view of the Medellin. The beauty of the sight brought tears to my eyes.

I stayed at Paradise until closing time, around 7 am. I was delighted with the place, and I was super drunk. I have already sessioned with a hot girl in La Isla that night, and I fucked a facebook girl during the day, so I have some but not very strong desire to fuck another girl at 7 am. As I was walking out of the club, a girl I danced with followed me out, she held my hand tightly and showed a strong desire of wanting to go home with me. I was prepared to turn down some strong hard sell. However, to my surprise, she was so drunk she couldn't talk nor walk straight. I was super drunk as well, but I was somewhat coherent. I love taking a drunk chick home in just about any occasion. Without any hesitation, I took the drunk girl in my taxi and headed straight to my Airbnb. She passed out hard on my lap during the entire taxi ride. The early morning sunlight passed through the window of the taxi landed softly on her face. I realized, for the first time, how beautiful this girl is. She has porcelain skin, an angel face, and a perfectly portioned body. Her name is Sara, and she is 21. With her head resting peacefully on my lap, we cruised joyfully to my apartment.

I had to carry her into my apartment. She dived into my bed as soon as she saw it. To my surprise, after I showered and laid down next to her, she started pushing her butt against my cock. We cuddled for a bit, and then I fucked her in multiple positions. We were both so drunk, right after I cum, we both passed out immediately, my cock was still in her pussy. I woke up 5 hours later and found a 21-year-old Colombian chica who is a solid 9 in my bed. I rubbed my cock against her pussy and cuddled with her intimately for a good hour. After she is fully awake, we started to negotiate the price. She wanted 600 K I negotiated down to 500 k (which is about 145 dollars). She stayed with me until 3 pm in the afternoon, and we had sex one more time.

Before we part ways, we connected on WhatsApp. She told me she usually goes to Gusto on Friday night. I went to Gusto and found her the very same night, we partied all night together, and she stayed all night with me again. So far, Paradise is the best after-party place I have found in Medellin. Too bad they close on Sunday.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2376355]I'm really getting tired of all this chatter of the dangers of Centro. If anyone has been paying attention they will know of the many tourists who have been killed, and robbed in the confines of Poblado.

If you are not a scared rabbit then give Centro a look. If you don't dig the scene then don't go anymore. It is really as simple as that.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, Parque Lleras in Poblado is a real danger zone, LOL.

Much more so than in el Centro at night.

Give me a break.

If you're tired of the chatter, don't read it.

Nothing wrong with guys posting warnings of the good, bad and ugly in whatever area.

Lots of newbies hitting the streets.

It's as simple as that.

I finally made it to La Isla on Thursday night. This place is precisely the type of place that I love. The girls' quality is at the same level as the Globe in Zurich or the Centaurus in Rio, which I believe is the highest quality in the world for people who is not a multi-millionaire. The average look in the club is a solid Colombian 8, which is a San Francisco 11. If you buy a drink or two for the girls, you can sit together with them and make out. Understandably, the girls will consistently push for the room. The cost for the room is 300 K (you can pay with a credit card), the girl I took to the room asked for 100 extra for BBBJ. She is one of the hottest girls I have seen in Medellin, I hopelessly agreed. The room is clean and basic; there is a shower in the room. I tasted my girls' above average DFK while sitting with her. She has a banging body and a Victoria's Secret models' look (unfortunately, I forgot her name). Her BBBJ was excellent, and sex with her is definitely above average. We finished fucking in 20 minutes; she was so hot I couldn't hold any longer than that. Sadly, La Isla's service turned out to be the same as Facebook girls. I paid for 40 minutes, but as soon as we finished fucking, she started to shower and put on clothes. We left the room with a solid 10 minutes on the clock.

I loved the girls and the atmosphere in la Isla so much, I stayed until 4 am. To my surprise, there is an after-party place called Paradise right next to la Isla. Most of the girls from la Isla go there after la Isla closes. Paradise is exactly the type of place I enjoy the most, lots of desperate working girls and very few mongers. I danced with five different girls, my hands and cock explored every part of their body. There is a back entrance for people to get fresh air; from there, you can get a spectacular view of the Medellin. The beauty of the sight brought tears to my eyes.

I stayed at Paradise until closing time, around 7 am. I was delighted with the place, and I was super drunk. I have already sessioned with a hot girl in La Isla that night, and I fucked a facebook girl during the day, so I have some but not very strong desire to fuck another girl at 7 am. As I was walking out of the club, a girl I danced with followed me out, she held my hand tightly and showed a strong desire of wanting to go home with me. I was prepared to turn down some strong hard sell. However, to my surprise, she was so drunk she couldn't talk nor walk straight. I was super drunk as well, but I was somewhat coherent. I love taking a drunk chick home in just about any occasion. Without any hesitation, I took the drunk girl in my taxi and headed straight to my Airbnb. She passed out hard on my lap during the entire taxi ride. The early morning sunlight passed through the window of the taxi landed softly on her face. I realized, for the first time, how beautiful this girl is. She has porcelain skin, an angel face, and a perfectly portioned body. Her name is Sara, and she is 21. With her head resting peacefully on my lap, we cruised joyfully to my apartment.

I had to carry her into my apartment. She dived into my bed as soon as she saw it. To my surprise, after I showered and laid down next to her, she started pushing her butt against my cock. We cuddled for a bit, and then I fucked her in multiple positions. We were both so drunk, right after I cum, we both passed out immediately, my cock was still in her pussy. I woke up 5 hours later and found a 21-year-old Colombian chica who is a solid 9 in my bed. I rubbed my cock against her pussy and cuddled with her intimately for a good hour. After she is fully awake, we started to negotiate the price. She wanted 600 K I negotiated down to 500 k (which is about 145 dollars). She stayed with me until 3 pm in the afternoon, and we had sex one more time.

Before we part ways, we connected on WhatsApp. She told me she usually goes to Gusto on Friday night. I went to Gusto and found her the very same night, we partied all night together, and she stayed all night with me again. So far, Paradise is the best after-party place I have found in Medellin. Too bad they close on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2376517]I'm sure your maid doesn't work for you for free, perhaps the fucking is included in what you pay her to clean your place.

Regardless, I kind of have a similar arrangement, but in reverse. I have a chick I only see on the weekends who stays with me in my apartment, and I give her money, and it includes all the fucking I want, plus cleaning of my apartment, washing of my laundry, and anything else I task her to do. So I guess one could say I'm getting maid services for free. You pay, I pay, nothing is free, but all is good.

On another note, there are members on this board who actually enjoy spending time in El Centro and wouldn't consider it a waste of time. There is such a divide on this Forum, it's kind of like the guys that specifically want "hotties", with looks trumping everything, with the sex being secondary versus the guys looking for the sexual performers. And than there are those who won't get near El Centro, they are into the Facebook Chicas, the Casa's, or the Strip Clubs versus the Street Rats myself included.

I like to poke fun at the other board members, but at the end of the day, we are all here to have fun regardless of how we roll.[/QUOTE]I actually fucked her before I made her my maid.

I had her go to an employment agency and I hired her from there. I don't pay her directly. I pay the maid agency 68.440 cop per day and they pay her and take care of all the taxes and other legalities for hiring someone full time. To my knowledge she gets paid the same as every other maid at the agency.

Personally I find the sexual performance of facebook girls superior to anywhere else you might meet a prepago. Few really hot women on facebook have to sleep with guys that they really dislike and the improved performance in the bedroom is evidence of that.

In my experience guys that are not capable of getting a better experience with facebook chicks are the ones that ultimately end up focusing on price and looks because the sex sucks with whomever they sleep with.

Like I would tell guys at the Mansion years ago. If you are getting the same level of service from a mansion chick as you are from the casa chicks then why stay there. That pretty much means you are a casa guy. Although I have met guys that like the girlfriend experience from facebook chicks and still get some kind of sick enjoyment out of banging casa chicks that are staring at the wall counting the minutes until the time is up. LOL!

In all fairness it isn't impossible to get a halfway decent experience in a casa but it isn't the norm for me or worth my time. Part of it is because it just doesn't have the same appeal as having a really hot nice facebook chick spend an afternoon or night at my place.

As it stands now if casas and el centro were my only options. I wouldn't be a monger. I think I'd suck it up and get a girlfriend.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376595]I actually fucked her before I made her my maid.

I had her go to an employment agency and I hired her from there. I don't pay her directly. I pay the maid agency 68.440 cop per day and they pay her and take care of all the taxes and other legalities for hiring someone full time. To my knowledge she gets paid the same as every other maid at the agency.

Personally I find the sexual performance of facebook girls superior to anywhere else you might meet a prepago. Few really hot women on facebook have to sleep with guys that they really dislike and the improved performance in the bedroom is evidence of that.

In my experience guys that are not capable of getting a better experience with facebook chicks are the ones that ultimately end up focusing on price and looks because the sex sucks with whomever they sleep with.

Like I would tell guys at the Mansion years ago. If you are getting the same level of service from a mansion chick as you are from the casa chicks then why stay there. That pretty much means you are a casa guy. Although I have met guys that like the girlfriend experience from facebook chicks and still get some kind of sick enjoyment out of banging casa chicks that are staring at the wall counting the minutes until the time is up. LOL!.[/QUOTE]I never thought about fucking a Chick to determine whether I would have her as a maid. That's a novel screening criteria. Hat's off to you!

Maybe your maid agency could send over half a dozen maids to my apartment so I can try them out.

All kidding aside, I have never done a Face Book Chick, I don't focus on price or looks, I don't do Casa Chicks, but I have lots of Chicks, and the sex doesn't suck with any of them, so I am not sure where I fall in your view of things.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376595]In my experience guys that are not capable of getting a better experience with facebook chicks are the ones that ultimately end up focusing on price and looks because the sex sucks with whomever they sleep with.[/QUOTE]It is the opposite for Pollo Negro who I know personally. In his case, why would he pay more for Facebook chicks that maybe doing less than the chicks that he has now? I bet he would not even consider because it does not make sense to him.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2376614]It is the opposite for Pollo Negro who I know personally. In his case, why would he pay more for Facebook chicks that maybe doing less than the chicks that he has now? I bet he would not even consider because it does not make sense to him.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point.

If you aren't getting anything more from a Facebook chick than a street walker than why would you go to all the trouble of cultivating a relationship with a Facebook chick.

I'm not advocating that guys should or should not do anything.

All we are are doing here is trying to rationalize each other's decisions and actions to try and make sense of the differences.

I actually envy guys that can go to el Centro and or a casa and find satisfaction.

I have tried many times and my experience has been like some others.

It is hard for me to find women in el Centro that I would actually pay to fuck.

And when I go to a casa a normally walk out feeling like it was a bad deal.

But I think every guy should go to el Centro at least once to see if they can get into.

What do they have to lose. It's crazy to say that el Centro is as safe as Poblado but I never felt like I was in moral danger while in el Centro.

If I could get what I wanted in el Centro I would be there.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2376355]I'm really getting tired of all this chatter of the dangers of Centro. If anyone has been paying attention they will know of the many tourists who have been killed, and robbed in the confines of Poblado.

If you are not a scared rabbit then give Centro a look. If you don't dig the scene then don't go anymore. It is really as simple as that.[/QUOTE]There are many times more tourists in Poblado, so it's not a fair comparison. On a per capital basis, your risk are quite a bit higher in Centro. Not saying Poblado can't be dangerous. The only time I've had a attempted mugging was in fact in Poblado. It was a secluded street late at night, which always carries some risk. But on average, Centro is definitely more risky.

[QUOTE=Combo;2376657]There are many times more tourists in Poblado, so it's not a fair comparison. On a per capital basis, your risk are quite a bit higher in Centro. Not saying Poblado can't be dangerous. The only time I've had a attempted mugging was in fact in Poblado. It was a secluded street late at night, which always carries some risk. But on average, Centro is definitely more risky.[/QUOTE]It is a matter of perspective, and personal experience, in Facebook groups, there are many reported actual robberies, there was a whole table in the restaurant robbed, multiple members of the same family robbed on different dates, multiple robberies at the same spot, none of them are in El Centro, actually, I have not heard any one can identify such a spot in El Centro. In this forum, we mostly reported what we have "heard", then it becomes so dangerous. A foreigner will always be an easy target regardless where you are.

I am trying to think about this logically. Why would a robber wait in El Centrol to rob someone in an area when there are few people around? If the robber is smart, he would go to an area with more and better targets.

I think the original poster was talking about a daytime visit.

I hope no one misinterprets any advice here to mean it's a good idea to wander around Centro alone at night because it is not at all a good idea.

[QUOTE=Putero1;2376337]It is not that the girls are safer, it is the location. El centro is dangerous for gringos and Colombians too, especially at night. I am afraid to go there and I speak fluent Spanish and have lived in Medellin for a long time. Maybe during the day for the thrill and spend less $, but at night, on foot, it is just one tiny ill advised corner of Ma city full of other options.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2376663]It is a matter of perspective, and personal experience, in Facebook groups, there are many reported actual robberies, there was a whole table in the restaurant robbed, multiple members of the same family robbed on different dates, multiple robberies at the same spot, none of them are in El Centro, actually, I have not heard any one can identify such a spot in El Centro. In this forum, we mostly reported what we have "heard", then it becomes so dangerous. A foreigner will always be an easy target regardless where you are.

I am trying to think about this logically. Why would a robber wait in El Centrol to rob someone in an area when there are few people around? If the robber is smart, he would go to an area with more and better targets.[/QUOTE]

https://medellinguru.com/medellin-security-safety-tips/

This article pretty much spells it out.

Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].

I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

That all changed tonight, when she unexpectedly showed up an hour early. Now I would usually consider punctuality a good thing, but after having sex every day for close to a month and considering the fact I'm not 20 anymore I needed time for the vitamin V to kick in.

Well I thought I could muddle through if I took things slowly. After we undressed, she sucked me a little, then immediately got on all fours and told me to mount her. I couldn't--I was still only half hard at most. I tried to slow things down by giving her a back massage but she started to impatiently demand we start to fuck.

Things really began to go south. I flipped her over to her back to play with her boobs and eat her out, but she stopped me and kept complaining. I ask her to suck me until I was hard and she visibly rolled her eyes. It's now obvious the mood is completely killed by her poor attitude. She demands to know why I'm not hard. I tried to explain that guys are not machines--it's not like I have a hidden dial that I can turn to go immediately to full mast. Can't seem to get through to her.

So finally I told her to dress and leave. She demands I pay her 250--50 more than I usually do. I demand to know why should I when we never even had sex and she's been there less than 20 minutes. I throw 150 mil at her and told her to get out. But she refuses and wants 250.

I've never been in this situation before and am not sure what to do. I sulk in bed looking at my laptop why she keeps demanding another 100 mil. I thought maybe if I ignore her she'll eventually go away. No dice. She threatens to call the doorman. She picks up the phone in the apartment but is not able to get it to work. Then she threatens to call the police. I call her bluff and still refuse. She calls them and puts them on speaker. My Spanish could use some work but I make out enough that she says I didn't pay her and starts giving out the name of the building and the apartment number. I have a plane to catch tomorrow and I don't have time for this shit. I throw another 100 at her and she hangs up and leaves.

She may have gotten my money but at least I can have a modicum of revenge by warning others.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2376607]I never thought about fucking a Chick to determine whether I would have her as a maid. That's a novel screening criteria. Hat's off to you!.[/QUOTE]Surf I tried that with some chicks in Pattaya. Come to find out them hoes only wanted to fuck for money. Them telling me that they would clean was just their way of getting a foot in the door.

There are all kinds of facebook girls. Most of them by far give a better show than any casa girl. Of course they are getting more than three times the pay of a casa girl so no wonder they make a better show of it. There is no comparing casas to facebook or facebook to street girls. It's apples and oranges. I can't comment about the gringo inn experience; I've never been there. I have crossed path with some of their customers. I don't plan to go there. I think all in all I get the best experience out of interactions with the girls I see regularly. Can we call them mobile phone / whatsapp girls? In the spirit of being a good forum member I am going to put myself out there and confess I spend time with one of the girls I see regularly talking about the books we recommend to each other. Most recently a Simon Bolivar biography. I know, it's weird and nerdy. It just sort of evolved out of typical post sex small talk. I met her in the Florida mall food court. I'm still a Centro rat at heart.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376595]I actually fucked her before I made her my maid.

I had her go to an employment agency and I hired her from there. I don't pay her directly. I pay the maid agency 68.440 cop per day and they pay her and take care of all the taxes and other legalities for hiring someone full time. To my knowledge she gets paid the same as every other maid at the agency.

Personally I find the sexual performance of facebook girls superior to anywhere else you might meet a prepago. Few really hot women on facebook have to sleep with guys that they really dislike and the improved performance in the bedroom is evidence of that.

In my experience guys that are not capable of getting a better experience with facebook chicks are the ones that ultimately end up focusing on price and looks because the sex sucks with whomever they sleep with..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].

I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

That all changed tonight, when she unexpectedly showed up an hour early. Now I would usually consider punctuality a good thing, but after having sex every day for close to a month and considering the fact I'm not 20 anymore I needed time for the vitamin V to kick in.

Well I thought I could muddle through if I took things slowly. After we undressed, she sucked me a little, then immediately got on all fours and told me to mount her. I couldn't--I was still only half hard at most. I tried to slow things down by giving her a back massage but she started to impatiently demand we start to fuck.

Things really began to go south. I flipped her over to her back to play with her boobs and eat her out, but she stopped me and kept complaining. I ask her to suck me until I was hard and she visibly rolled her eyes. It's now obvious the mood is completely killed by her poor attitude. She demands to know why I'm not hard. I tried to explain that guys are not machines--it's not like I have a hidden dial that I can turn to go immediately to full mast. Can't seem to get through to her.

So finally I told her to dress and leave. She demands I pay her 250--50 more than I usually do. I demand to know why should I when we never even had sex and she's been there less than 20 minutes. I throw 150 mil at her and told her to get out. But she refuses and wants 250.

I've never been in this situation before and am not sure what to do. I sulk in bed looking at my laptop why she keeps demanding another 100 mil. I thought maybe if I ignore her she'll eventually go away. No dice. She threatens to call the doorman. She picks up the phone in the apartment but is not able to get it to work. Then she threatens to call the police. I call her bluff and still refuse. She calls them and puts them on speaker. My Spanish could use some work but I make out enough that she says I didn't pay her and starts giving out the name of the building and the apartment number. I have a plane to catch tomorrow and I don't have time for this shit. I throw another 100 at her and she hangs up and leaves.

She may have gotten my money but at least I can have a modicum of revenge by warning others.[/QUOTE]So was there some kind of a set time limit that the two of you agreed on. Anytime a facebook chick brings up a certain amount of time I tell her I'm not interested. Most just hang out and kick back and you fuck them when you feel like it. Seems like this chick thinks she is in an escort service.

The only time I had to kick a facebook chick out of my apartment was once when a girl wanted to leave before we even had sex and she still wanted to get paid. Jajaja.

I had to physically pick her up and carry her out of the apartment and then I locked the front door behind me and left her standing in the hall.

She had called someone and I didn't really want to stick around to see who was going to show up. When I came back a few hours later nobody was around.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2376607]I never thought about fucking a Chick to determine whether I would have her as a maid. That's a novel screening criteria. Hat's off to you!

Maybe your maid agency could send over half a dozen maids to my apartment so I can try them out.

All kidding aside, I have never done a Face Book Chick, I don't focus on price or looks, I don't do Casa Chicks, but I have lots of Chicks, and the sex doesn't suck with any of them, so I am not sure where I fall in your view of things.[/QUOTE]Yeah I learned that from the Calenos in Cali. I'll never forget the time I was trying to take a girl to a motel in Cali and every motel I went to was full. I think it was the 3rd or 4th motel that I went to that was full and couldn't get a room in the middle of the day.

When I finally asked what the hell is going on "why can't I find a single motel with an available room in the middle of the day. And the lady at the front desk asked me "don't you know what day it is?" I said why is something going on. She said it was secretaries day. Jajaja.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376692]So was there some kind of a set time limit that the two of you agreed on. Anytime a facebook chick brings up a certain amount of time I tell her I'm not interested. Most just hang out and kick back and you fuck them when you feel like it. Seems like this chick thinks she is in an escort service.

The only time I had to kick a facebook chick out of my apartment was once when a girl wanted to leave before we even had sex and she still wanted to get paid. Jajaja.

I had to physically pick her up and carry her out of the apartment and then I locked the front door behind me and left her standing in the hall.

She had called someone and I didn't really want to stick around to see who was going to show up. When I came back a few hours later nobody was around.[/QUOTE]Never any agreed on time limit. And most FB chicks never mention time at all. I agree, the ones that do are really escorty.

Physically removing an uncooperative puta sounds like an incredibly risky thing to do. Were you worried she might report you for assault?

[QUOTE=Talon;2376707]Never any agreed on time limit. And most FB chicks never mention time at all. I agree, the ones that do are really escorty.

Physically removing an uncooperative puta sounds like an incredibly risky thing to do. Were you worried she might report you for assault?[/QUOTE]Didn't even cross my mind that she might report me for assault considering the alternative of leaving her in my apartment and waiting to see who showed up. And unless she had sustained some kind of injury she wouldn't have had a leg to stand on anyway.

Police here don't do anything if someone accuses you of assault. Unless you are still there when the polcie arrive, then I'm sure they would have hit me up for money. If she wanted to file a police report she would have had to spend a day. And mean an entire day. At the Fiscalia to do so. And, they usually won't issue an arrest warrant unless you bring a witness or have some other proof a crime was committed.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376692]So was there some kind of a set time limit that the two of you agreed on. Anytime a facebook chick brings up a certain amount of time I tell her I'm not interested. Most just hang out and kick back and you fuck them when you feel like it. Seems like this chick thinks she is in an escort service.

The only time I had to kick a facebook chick out of my apartment was once when a girl wanted to leave before we even had sex and she still wanted to get paid. Jajaja.

I had to physically pick her up and carry her out of the apartment and then I locked the front door behind me and left her standing in the hall.

She had called someone and I didn't really want to stick around to see who was going to show up. When I came back a few hours later nobody was around.[/QUOTE]Been in similar situations a couple of times. What I find works well is to to throw their clothes out the door along with a few dollars to get home. 1st time in Moscow I kicked one out naked in -40 degree weather. She was not too happy, I remember some screaming.

Second time in Singapore I could not get rid of the game playing Puta. Threw her clothes out + $ in the Marriott next to the Orchard Towers. It was the thought of losing her few $ that got her out the door. She responded by kicking and leaving a dent in the door. Bottom line is if they don't perform as per agreement they need to go. Don't fall for the theatrics or hysteria.

Guido88.

Quick report about my Saturday night visit to Fase 2. Having lived in Medellin a while this was only my second visit but I was very please about the quality of girls working that night. Entry was 10 k and a large bottle of Medellin rum (not my favourite but it was the cheapest) was 210 k with four small bottles of Coke. I would guess about 30 or so girls were working and about five or six were really hot. Girls dance on the catwalk pretty much the whole night and come and ask for 2 k after their show so be prepared to spend about 50 k handing out "propinas" or telling the girls to move on. You can hang out and drink with girls if you have a bottle so it's a fun place to have a good time with your mates if that's what you enjoy, I've been to a few strip bars and the quality last Friday was decent so I was very happy. It's 210 k for 45 minutes in the room although this was only the second time I've been and I was very drunk so just chilled and drank with a few girls instead. There have been tons of reports on Fase 2 in the forum but if you haven't been take a look while you're here, it's worth it.

On a separate note a mate of mine witnessed an armed robbery while in a very nice restaurant in Laureles at about 9 pm on a Friday night. I know everyone is aware of the need for safety, I have lived in Medellin for over a year and I have never felt threatened, but some basic precautions really do make a difference. Things like taking an Uber after 10 pm, not using headphones to listen to music at night and not flashing money in public are all sensible things to do. I've also been reading up on some scoplamine facebook groups and it looks like a lot of guys are getting robbed by Tinder girls, I don't use Tinder so have no idea, but just be that extra bit wary, especially if a chica asks to bring a friend on a date, big read flag.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376707]Never any agreed on time limit. And most FB chicks never mention time at all. I agree, the ones that do are really escorty.

Physically removing an uncooperative puta sounds like an incredibly risky thing to do. Were you worried she might report you for assault?[/QUOTE]You did the right thing by paying her the 100 K to leave. Physically removing a Chica, or throwing her clothes out as others have suggested, will not improve the situation.

Granted, most guys myself included don't like getting cheated, but it's par for the course. I've had my share of altercations as well, but never with someone I had seen before.

What's unfortunate is that you had a previous track record with this Chica. My bet is her rent was probably due the day you saw her, which would explain her early arrival and urgency.

Perhaps a "Face Book No Fly List" should be developed, and Chicas who cause problems put on the list so they are grounded.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].

I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

That all changed tonight, when she unexpectedly showed up an hour early. Now I would usually consider punctuality a good thing, but after having sex every day for close to a month and considering the fact I'm not 20 anymore I needed time for the vitamin V to kick in.

Well I thought I could muddle through if I took things slowly. After we undressed, she sucked me a little, then immediately got on all fours and told me to mount her. I couldn't--I was still only half hard at most. I tried to slow things down by giving her a back massage but she started to impatiently demand we start to fuck..[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure she's on her 3rd or 4th Facebook profile. First one I'm aware of she was calling herself Dulce Mariana Londono. She's been working for at least 3 years. Hardcore hood rat, heavy into weed and tussi. She's known for begging constantly for money and, if given the opportunity, she'll steal anything left out. Everything else you say about her sounds like the same girl.

Thank you for taking the time to report this. I have her on my friends list but after reading your review there is no way I will ever see her. I probably would have done the same as you did. Writing her name helps

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].

I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

That all changed tonight, when she unexpectedly showed up an hour early. Now I would usually consider punctuality a good thing, but after having sex every day for close to a month and considering the fact I'm not 20 anymore I needed time for the vitamin V to kick in.

Well I thought I could muddle through if I took things slowly. After we undressed, she sucked me a little, then immediately got on all fours and told me to mount her. I couldn't--I was still only half hard at most. I tried to slow things down by giving her a back massage but she started to impatiently demand we start to fuck.

Things really began to go south. I flipped her over to her back to play with her boobs and eat her out, but she stopped me and kept complaining. I ask her to suck me until I was hard and she visibly rolled her eyes. It's now obvious the mood is completely killed by her poor attitude. She demands to know why I'm not hard. I tried to explain that guys are not machines--it's not like I have a hidden dial that I can turn to go immediately to full mast. Can't seem to get through to her.

So finally I told her to dress and leave. She demands I pay her 250--50 more than I usually do. I demand to know why should I when we never even had sex and she's been there less than 20 minutes. I throw 150 mil at her and told her to get out. But she refuses and wants 250.

I've never been in this situation before and am not sure what to do. I sulk in bed looking at my laptop why she keeps demanding another 100 mil. I thought maybe if I ignore her she'll eventually go away. No dice. She threatens to call the doorman. She picks up the phone in the apartment but is not able to get it to work. Then she threatens to call the police. I call her bluff and still refuse. She calls them and puts them on speaker. My Spanish could use some work but I make out enough that she says I didn't pay her and starts giving out the name of the building and the apartment number. I have a plane to catch tomorrow and I don't have time for this shit. I throw another 100 at her and she hangs up and leaves.

She may have gotten my money but at least I can have a modicum of revenge by warning others.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2376842]Thank you for taking the time to report this. I have her on my friends list but after reading your review there is no way I will ever see her. I probably would have done the same as you did. Writing her name helps

.[/QUOTE]Now that I've had some time to sleep on it, what I should have done was said I didn't have the money on me and that we needed to go to the ATM. Then once we were outside the building I could have started briskly walking in any direction until I gained enough distance that I could run and ditch her. Let her call the cops then--I doubt they'll stakeout the building to resolve a pay dispute and I could just keep my distance for hours. Oh well, next time.

I should really put a small list together so others don't waste their time on the few bad apples I've encountered.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].



She may have gotten my money but at least I can have a modicum of revenge by warning others.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I have talked to her on FB, and she seemed a little crazier than the average chica, I think it might be good to have a dedicated thread for reviewing FB girls.

I for the most part have had good experiences with Facebook girls. I think a list of girls to avoid is more valuable than ones that are recommended

[QUOTE=Talon;2376849]Now that I've had some time to sleep on it, what I should have done was said I didn't have the money on me and that we needed to go to the ATM. Then once we were outside the building I could have started briskly walking in any direction until I gained enough distance that I could run and ditch her. Let her call the cops then--I doubt they'll stakeout the building to resolve a pay dispute and I could just keep my distance for hours. Oh well, next time.

I should really put a small list together so others don't waste their time on the few bad apples I've encountered.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

Then she threatens to call the police. I call her bluff and still refuse. She calls them and puts them on speaker.[/QUOTE]That broad didn't call any freaking police. She called a friend. I was in Santo Domingo once and even the police tried that one on me. They put it on speaker phone too. When I wouldn't give them a bribe they acted like they were calling the boss who was going to come and I would REALLY be in trouble. (The charge was letting a SW OUT of the car? LOL) I had nowhere to be so I waited until they finally realized that I didn't scare easily so they left. I told them no no no stay so we can get this sorted out, but they were like fuck this mf. We are wasting our damn time.

From the story that you told, it seems like your girl is a junkie. (In a big rush (to go get that next hit). Trying to squeeze more money out of you.) Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

[QUOTE=Talon;2376849]Now that I've had some time to sleep on it, what I should have done was said I didn't have the money on me and that we needed to go to the ATM. Then once we were outside the building I could have started briskly walking in any direction until I gained enough distance that I could run and ditch her.[/QUOTE]LOL. Oh so we running from hoes now? I have said before to walk chicks outside before you pay them, but everybody thought I was crazy. I do usually separate the money that I have to give to a chick before she even comes over.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376707]Physically removing an uncooperative puta sounds like an incredibly risky thing to do. Were you worried she might report you for assault?[/QUOTE]Man you keep forgetting that these are HOOKERS! The police ain't got time for that bullshit. If they were to run out everytime a hooker called about a trick, they would need a new division just to cover those calls. Police in countries like Colombia are there for big stuff, not little stuff. Somebody snatched your phone, necklace? Just chalk it up as a loss. Somebody stabbed you? Call the police!

Hi guys,

I will be travelling to Medellin in couple of weeks and staying close to Poblado. When you talk about FB girls, is there a specific group or how does it work. I will be there for Spanish immersion course and planning to have some extra curricular in-depth language classes as well.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2376895]That broad didn't call any freaking police. She called a friend. I was in Santo Domingo once and the police even tried that one on me. They put it on speaker phone too. When I wouldn't give them a bribe they acted like they were calling the boss who was going to come and I would REALLY be in trouble. (The charge was letting a SW OUT of the car? LOL) I had nowhere to be so I waited until they finally realized that I didn't scare easily so they left. I told them no no no stay so we can get this sorted out, but they were like fuck this mf. We are wasting our damn time.

From the story that you told, it seems like your girl is a junkie. Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

LOL. Oh so we running from hoes now? I have said before to walk chicks outside before you pay them, but everybody thought I was crazy.[/QUOTE]I don't think this Chica is a junkie, I think what happened was that her rent was due on that day.

And I agree with you that when you have a problem Chica, I always always always walk them outside before I pay them. That way that can't pull any stunts inside the room. But I have only had to do this a few times in Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2376691]In the spirit of being a good forum member I am going to put myself out there and confess I spend time with one of the girls I see regularly talking about the books we recommend to each other. Most recently a Simon Bolivar biography. I know, it's weird and nerdy. It just sort of evolved out of typical post sex small talk.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with learning from anybody that you can learn from brother. The first chick I fucked in Thailand dropped out of school at 10 years old. But in the same situation that you were in, she said let me teach you some Thai so you will be able to pick up chicks easily. If it was not for her, then I probably would have never started learning Thai. 14 years later I am still using the exact tactic she taught me: when walking past a chick you like, say hey where you going in Thai (Pai nai). She was right. It stops chicks dead in their tracks.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2376759]On a separate note a mate of mine witnessed an armed robbery while in a very nice restaurant in Laureles at about 9 pm on a Friday night. I know everyone is aware of the need for safety, I have lived in Medellin for over a year and I have never felt threatened, but some basic precautions really do make a difference. Things like taking an Uber after 10 pm, not using headphones to listen to music at night and not flashing money in public are all sensible things to do. I've also been reading up on some scoplamine facebook groups and it looks like a lot of guys are getting robbed by Tinder girls, I don't use Tinder so have no idea, but just be that extra bit wary, especially if a chica asks to bring a friend on a date, big read flag.[/QUOTE]I am aware of a lot people being robbed, however in a nice restaurant on a Friday night in Laureles. So guys came in the restaurant with guns drawn and took everyone's stuff? Something like that would of made the news, especially happening in Laureles. So perhaps your mate can share more of what he witnessed and the restaurant this occurred in, as something like this to occur in a restaurant in Laureles sounds peculiar.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2376906] 14 years later I am still using the exact tactic she taught me: when walking past a chick you like, say hey where you going in Thai (Pai nai). She was right. It stops chicks dead in their tracks.[/QUOTE]You made my day. This is the reason why I pushed myself to study some Indonesian, since the first time I went to Batam.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2376895] I had nowhere to be so I waited until they finally realized that I didn't scare easily so they left. I told them no no no stay so we can get this sorted out, but they were like fuck this mf. We are wasting our damn time.[/QUOTE]This reminds me the day I was walking around Accra taking photos, and a guy with a uniform (Fireman) stopped me threatening me that he was Police Officer, that he saw me taking photos of people and of the city, that it was forbidden, and that I was doing that only to advertise a bad picture of his country. Finally, he stated that I had to pay a fine or he would confiscate my photocamera.

So I told him let's go to the Police Post to discuss. He told me to follow him. We walked around a circle in the market for 10 minutes, until he was tired.

Finally, he asked me why I was in Ghana, and proposed me to discuss about business we could do together. I pretended to be very interested. All this since the beginning took more than one hour.

I do not think I wasted 1 hour with him. Actually, I learned a lot.

Fuck the glue heads in Centro. I flew to Santa Marta and bought 3 new hats exactly like the one the ghoul stole for 15 mil and that hat was old and gross. I know all you've got a good laugh out of that....but it you see a glue head.with a cheap old tan Colombian hat punch him in the face.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2376895]
Man you keep forgetting that these are HOOKERS! The police ain't got time for that bullshit. If they were to run out everytime a hooker called about a trick, they would need a new division just to cover those calls. Police in countries like Colombia are there for big stuff, not little stuff. Somebody snatched your phone, necklace? Just chalk it up as a loss. Somebody stabbed you? Call the police![/QUOTE]If you are staying in Poblado the police will come and they will come twice as fast if they catch wind that a gringo is involved. Because it is potentially a big payday for them. What if the chick was under 18. I know guys that have lost upwards of 5 million cop getting out of that mess.

I'm not saying every guy should physically remove chicks from their apartment if the deal goes bad. But I would recommend that the police should be avoided at all cost in these types of situations.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2376953]If you are staying in Poblado the police will come and they will come twice as fast if they catch wind that a gringo is involved. Because it is potentially a big payday for them. What if the chick was under 18. I know guys that have lost upwards of 5 million cop getting out of that mess.
[/QUOTE]What can police do if the chick is an adult? Assume I live here and am willing go to court, what's the worst that can happen beside paying the chick?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2377028]What can police do if the chick is an adult? Assume I live here and am willing go to court, what's the worst that can happen beside paying the chick?[/QUOTE]You would think nothing could happen. But you would be wrong.

Some of the guys that got accused of being with a minor didn't even have sex with the chick. It was a set up from the start and the police were in on it.

So really skies the limit of what can go wrong if crooked cops show up. And they can talk the chick into making claims against you. The dirty cops will tell the chick that they will give her part of the money they extort from you if she willing to testify that you did something.

And if the chick hates you enough to go to court you are pretty much screwed.

Trust me. The best thing you can do is avoid the police like the plague if a chick is involved and she isn't on your side.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2376902]I don't think this Chica is a junkie, I think what happened was that her rent was due on that day.

And I agree with you that when you have a problem Chica, I always always always walk them outside before I pay them. That way that can't pull any stunts inside the room. But I have only had to do this a few times in Mexico and the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]I had to do some checking. It's the same girl I wrote about this morning.

On the plus side, she had an incredible body. When I saw her, she was working out, flat stomach, no kids, perfect, natural tits and a perfect ass. Face wasn't the sweet and innocent type, but nothing wrong with it. Other than the ghetto tats, nothing to complain about. She fucked me every way she could, including a long time in front of the mirror where she was more interested in watching than I was. After she finished me off and a long cool down she went to work on me again. Offered BBFS, offered the back door, did lots of BBBJ with DT. Just a complete sex beast.

Looking at her pics now, she's aged. Her face looks 30 and she's not 20 yet. The body doesn't look as firm as it was either. A year ago or more, on her old Facebook, she was doing a lot of live videos. Hanging in a place way above her pay grade and showing off wholesale quantities of tussi. I'm talking gallon size Ziploc bags full.

I ended up blocking her twice. She'd get on messenger and send 20 messages begging for money. Someone else reported she had stolen his phone and some money, when he left her alone to go to the bathroom.

I'd say drugs are probably a good guess.

I wouldn't recommend getting into any big hassle with her. While I doubt she would call the police, I'm sure she has friends who are bad news.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2377032]You would think nothing could happen. But you would be wrong.

Some of the guys that got accused of being with a minor didn't even have sex with the chick. It was a set up from the start and the police were in on it.

So really skies the limit of what can go wrong if crooked cops show up. And they can talk the chick into making claims against you. The dirty cops will tell the chick that they will give her part of the money they extort from you if she willing to testify that you did something.

And if the chick hates you enough to go to court you are pretty much screwed.

Trust me. The best thing you can do is avoid the police like the plague if a chick is involved and she isn't on your side.[/QUOTE]I don't know that is why I asked. Why am I screwed if I go to court? Do you mean the court will be in it too?

I will probably pay to make it go away but I am interested to know how legal system works here.

Sort of short-sighted of these Facebook girls to pull that kind of crap. A reasonable percentage of hobbyists will report the girl to the community and she'll be scratched off a lot of lists.

That's really one of the benefits of sites like ISG. Keeping each other out of trouble.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2377032]And if the chick hates you enough to go to court you are pretty much screwed. Trust me. The best thing you can do is avoid the police like the plague if a chick is involved and she isn't on your side.[/QUOTE]Wait a minute. What? I thought y'all said that these chicks did not want their family's to know they are hookers. If she has to go to court on the matter that will surely come out. The way I see it, that is one more bargaining chip for the monger. You call the police. We go to court. Everyone knows you are a hooker. Your fee just went down. Take this 100K and get the fuck out of my face.

I don't go near chicks that look anything like a minor so that is one issue that I am not worried about. And remember, the chick is not the only one that can make claims. That is a two-way street.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2377048]Wait a minute. What? I thought y'all said that these chicks did not want their family's to know they are hookers
[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure many of these chicas don't care if their family knows, I've seen too many Facebook pages to think they do, probably some but not all. I've seen many who literally brag about it. There what I call prepago memes on these Facebook pages. One says, in Spanish of course, "A working girl is someone who sleeps around for free, a prostitute is a job that enables me to take care of my children and family" they get humorous too " We don't dislike if he is old, we don't dislike if he is old, we like bank transfers" , and one where it shows a split image, on one side a hand holding an older Android phone and the caption says my friend has a job and works really hard, the other has a hand holding a new iPhone and says I play around with old me.

They brag about it in these memes, and where else would the family think they got the things, the new addidas sweat suit they walk around in, etc.

I'm not arguing against anyone's point here but it seems to be many of these chicas are not secretive about it, they are proud of it. Because they make a good living and have nicer things than their friends who work a regular job.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377104]...I've seen too many Facebook pages...[/QUOTE]I'm interested in the search terms you would use to find these girls. ?

Would you please some of them kind sir.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2376884]I for the most part have had good experiences with Facebook girls. I think a list of girls to avoid is more valuable than ones that are recommended.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2377107]I'm interested in the search terms you would use to find these girls. ?[/QUOTE]It would be nice if there were search terms to find them. But it's not that easy. You have to start with a profile that has a lot of prepago Friends in there friends list. Use the search function on this thread, search "Facebook" There are posts with links, like the one I posted with a link to a chicas profile that has many prepago Friends, but she also has some gringo friends, and they have many prepago Friends, but the trick is finding one who had their list open to see. There are a couple in a post if you search like I said, do the search in this thread and you'll find it, now I'm going to throw you a bone, or two

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100038143365654[/URL]

https://m.facebook.com/angie.gomez.14224?

https://m.facebook.com/carolmichel.buitragoortiz.7
Carol has the most obvious prepago profile picture, you'll also see when you start looking, the purple devil emojis, horns on their head, photos in underwear etc

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2377048] And remember, the chick is not the only one that can make claims. That is a two-way street.[/QUOTE]LOL! I guess you can't try and talk the police into letting you make false claims about the hooker so they can extort money and favors out of her while giving you a kick back. Jajaja.

But I still think it is better to avoid the police if at all possible.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2377145]LOL! I guess you can't try and talk the police into letting you make false claims about the hooker so they can extort money and favors out of her while giving you a kick back. Jajaja.

But I still think it is better to avoid the police if at all possible.[/QUOTE]I gave the same advice, avoid getting the police involved, 6 months ago. There's no upside once you're standing with the police. You're not doing what you wanted to do, and arguing with an angry working girl, while the cops figure out how much is in it for them, is a poor substitute for sex.

Why go thru all this? Just pay her the extra 100 k and be done. By outing her in social media like this site, I think you are getting back at her. Why go to court and take a risk for the equivalent of 32 dollars? Remember you are a gringo most likely traveling on your own. They know why you are in Medellin so why go through all this?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2377034]I don't know that is why I asked. Why am I screwed if I go to court? Do you mean the court will be in it too?

I will probably pay to make it go away but I am interested to know how legal system works here.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Nounce;2377034]I don't know that is why I asked. Why am I screwed if I go to court? Do you mean the court will be in it too?

I will probably pay to make it go away but I am interested to know how legal system works here.[/QUOTE]Almost everywhere, the scales of justice are weighted in favor of a local over an outsider. That is true even in the US.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2377191]I gave the same advice, avoid getting the police involved, 6 months ago. There's no upside once you're standing with the police. You're not doing what you wanted to do, and arguing with an angry working girl, while the cops figure out how much is in it for them, is a poor substitute for sex.[/QUOTE]Just a hypothetical question, what will happen if my attorney is present that he will do most of the talking?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2377255]Just a hypothetical question, what will happen if my attorney is present that he will do most of the talking?[/QUOTE]Nothing, because it never gets that far. Most guys just pay the extra money from the beginning because they are scared. All this does is encourage her to do the same thing with the next guy, and the next.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2377255]Just a hypothetical question, what will happen if my attorney is present that he will do most of the talking?[/QUOTE]You talk about girl fleecing a board member for 100 K, well a Colombian attorney could do a much better job of fleecing you. You would end up paying an attorney at least three times that amount just for them to tell you that your wasting time, and that would be an honest attorney. And the majority of the attorneys in Colombia are a joke. The only requirement for being an attorney is having a law degree. No legal exams or passing a bar required.

As a foreigner, as other's have posted, your not in a good position in a dispute. It's all elementary, and you have to realize that this is not a litigious Country like in the USA. Issues with Chicas are going to come up, it goes with the territory, so you should just be smart and know when to cut your losses.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2377145]LOL! I guess you can't try and talk the police into letting you make false claims about the hooker so they can extort money and favors out of her while giving you a kick back. Jajaja.

But I still think it is better to avoid the police if at all possible.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I had to pay the police on my first trip there. I paid like 100 USD not to get taken to the station. I didn't do anything wrong but the police didn't care they just seemed to wanted money. But in all my other trips the trick is use a normal taxi (normal cars or hotel taxi) don't use the yellow taxis they get stopped more often.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377139]https://m.facebook.com/carolmichel.buitragoortiz.7
Carol has the most obvious prepago profile picture, you'll also see when you start looking, the purple devil emojis, horns on their head, photos in underwear etc[/QUOTE]Carol be wild'lin on them prices, just inquired myself. For an hour of anal, she quoted 350 dollares. ***** be delusional, she's not even that attractive, so I pitched anal as pussy sex with a hottie can be had 10 x for 350 dollares.

Why would you hire an attorney over the equivalent of 32 dollars? I basically only see Facebook girls and never had a real problem with any of them like the one reported. What are you going to tell the judge? That you hired an attorney to protect all sex tourists rights and not just yourself? I’m sure the court will get a laugh out if it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2377263]Nothing, because it never gets that far. Most guys just pay the extra money from the beginning because they are scared. All this does is encourage her to do the same thing with the next guy, and the next.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2377289]Why would you hire an attorney over the equivalent of 32 dollars? I basically only see Facebook girls and never had a real problem with any of them like the one reported. What are you going to tell the judge? That you hired an attorney to protect all sex tourists rights and not just yourself? Im sure the court will get a laugh out if it.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't hire an attorney, because it has never gotten that far. And I have never paid the bribe, the extortion fee, or no extra shit that was asked of me by the girl or the police to make anything just go away. Like I said, just scare tactics. And I am talking the world over, not just Medellin.

I have never had a problem in Medellin and I only deal with SW, strip clubs, casas, and FL there. The only places the police thing has been tried on me by chicks are Rio, Sosua, Pattaya, and Abuja. And out of those times the only time the police has actually been called was in Sosua. And they came and sent the girl packing. So out of over 1000 attempts worldwide, only 4 times have a chick tried the police shit. Most probably have an idea of who they can get away with what with, just like any other hustling scheme.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377139]It would be nice if there were search terms to find them. But it's not that easy. You have to start with a profile that has a lot of prepago Friends in there friends list. Use the search function on this thread, search "Facebook" There are posts with links, like the one I posted with a link to a chicas profile that has many prepago Friends, but she also has some gringo friends, and they have many prepago Friends, but the trick is finding one who had their list open to see. There are a couple in a post if you search like I said, do the search in this thread and you'll find it, now I'm going to throw you a bone, or two

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100038143365654[/URL]

https://m.facebook.com/angie.gomez.14224?

https://m.facebook.com/carolmichel.buitragoortiz.7
Carol has the most obvious prepago profile picture, you'll also see when you start looking, the purple devil emojis, horns on their head, photos in underwear etc[/QUOTE]None of the FB chica links I found had the friend lists open. Also, many of them don't even let you send a friend request or are maxed out. Am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=Combo;2377041]Sort of short-sighted of these Facebook girls to pull that kind of crap. A reasonable percentage of hobbyists will report the girl to the community and she'll be scratched off a lot of lists.

That's really one of the benefits of sites like ISG. Keeping each other out of trouble.[/QUOTE]Don't kid yourself. Maybe the handful of guys that you know personally would believe you and boycott her. But the vast majority of mongers will chalk it up as a gringo scorned, and would still see her if she was their type. These boards are not a community or brotherhood. In the end, with the exception of a handful of mongers who know each other, it's every guy for himself.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2377033]
I wouldn't recommend getting into any big hassle with her. While I doubt she would call the police, I'm sure she has friends who are bad news.[/QUOTE]After spending a lot of time looking at these FB girls profiles, I am sure that JjBee62 is correct about her having friends who are bad news, most of these chicas come out of Bello, where the gang situation is intense so its a given that many of them have a bunch of loco chicos for friends. I have seen many of their male friends who in their profile photo are pointing guns, some probably actually have novios that are gang members, as I have seen a couple in the profiles\ photos arm in arm, lip-locked, the guy with tats all over his face and then when I look at the guys profile he has photos of him with a gun, so I scratched these off my list. I don't think that on the average this is a problem, but I am just one who would rather be careful. I would be more worried about the loco chicos than that cops. I am not saying that anyone at this point should be, I am just pointing out that JjBee62 is absolutely correct that many of these chicas have amigas that are bad news, and crazy as crazy can be.

I completely agree with MB here. You always want see who is an obvious prepago such that they taking bra and panty pics or throw up the devil and cash emojis. I have friend requested and added girls from their friend is open. Eventually once you add enough you will get friend request from other girls. I would cautious who you do bring over but luckily for me I have never had any issue with any FB girl on my friends list. Also check out tinder I have had some success there.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377139]It would be nice if there were search terms to find them. But it's not that easy. You have to start with a profile that has a lot of prepago Friends in there friends list. Use the search function on this thread, search "Facebook" There are posts with links, like the one I posted with a link to a chicas profile that has many prepago Friends, but she also has some gringo friends, and they have many prepago Friends, but the trick is finding one who had their list open to see. There are a couple in a post if you search like I said, do the search in this thread and you'll find it, now I'm going to throw you a bone, or two

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100038143365654[/URL]

https://m.facebook.com/angie.gomez.14224?

https://m.facebook.com/carolmichel.buitragoortiz.7
Carol has the most obvious prepago profile picture, you'll also see when you start looking, the purple devil emojis, horns on their head, photos in underwear etc[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Queens35;2377355]Don't kid yourself. Maybe the handful of guys that you know personally would believe you and boycott her. But the vast majority of mongers will chalk it up as a gringo scorned, and would still see her if she was their type. These boards are not a community or brotherhood. In the end, with the exception of a handful of mongers who know each other, it's every guy for himself.[/QUOTE]Of course people are free to do whatever they want. But don't expect any sympathy when you go to that 1-star reviewed restaurant and find out that the service is lousy and the food is inedible slop.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2377355]Don't kid yourself. Maybe the handful of guys that you know personally would believe you and boycott her. But the vast majority of mongers will chalk it up as a gringo scorned, and would still see her if she was their type. These boards are not a community or brotherhood. In the end, with the exception of a handful of mongers who know each other, it's every guy for himself.[/QUOTE]Well, speak for yourself, I personally would balk at a chica if she was reported as difficult, threatens to call police, etc.

Too many other chicas to choose from than to hang with a reported troublemaker.

That's just me though, you may not care.

I'm guessing there are many others who feel the same as me.

One caveat; it depends on the poster as well.

If he is a guy who, through his posts, I believe is not credible, I will obviously take what he writes with less weight.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2377355]Don't kid yourself. Maybe the handful of guys that you know personally would believe you and boycott her. But the vast majority of mongers will chalk it up as a gringo scorned, and would still see her if she was their type. These boards are not a community or brotherhood. In the end, with the exception of a handful of mongers who know each other, it's every guy for himself.[/QUOTE]Whenever it is the foreigner scorned deal it is a person that pops up out of nowhere saying this chick has hiv or robbed me or whatever else. It is not someone like Talon that has a history of posting on the board. Of course your mileage will vary. But if someone of his posting history says don't go fucking around over there because there are a few poisonous snakes, I am going to listen. They say a smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. If this man says he was with this chick several other times with no problems then all of a sudden she went off the rails, then I would definitely buy that.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2377245]Almost everywhere, the scales of justice are weighted in favor of a local over an outsider. That is true even in the US.[/QUOTE]True. I think we should be happy the girls are not more extortionate.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2377633]Whenever it is the foreigner scorned deal it is a person that pops up out of nowhere saying this chick has hiv or robbed me or whatever else. It is not someone like Talon that has a history of posting on the board. Of course your mileage will vary. But if someone of his posting history says don't go fucking around over there because there are a few poisonous snakes, I am going to listen. They say a smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. If this man says he was with this chick several other times with no problems then all of a sudden she went off the rails, then I would definitely buy that.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there are Gringos who would trash a girl here and make up stuff just because a girl didn't put out to his standards, but this rings very true. In any case I blocked her and appreciate Talon's report. I had over 800 contacts in MDE before and I still do. Of course these girls are always creating new accounts.

As to paying them to leave, I have adopted that policy. I used to fight it. 20 years ago a Help girl refused to provide the agreed on services and said she was going to call the police if I didn't pay. I threw her clothes out a 10th story window at the Atlantico Copacabana in Rio, handed her a towel and told her she better get down there before someone takes her clothes. She grabbed the towel and ran.

Probably because I carefully voir dire girls before I see them, disputes of the type seem to happens very rarely now (like once ever few years). It isn't a lot of money to me and I just don't need the drama or (very slight) risk of having a police or even BF come after me. I'm not sure what I would have done in this case were she demanded more than the agreed price. And I agree that probably wasn't the police on the phone.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2377355]Don't kid yourself. Maybe the handful of guys that you know personally would believe you and boycott her. But the vast majority of mongers will chalk it up as a gringo scorned, and would still see her if she was their type. These boards are not a community or brotherhood. In the end, with the exception of a handful of mongers who know each other, it's every guy for himself.[/QUOTE]Pretty much. If someone writes up a review about getting BBFS and CIM WS then finishes by saying the girl robbed him and gave him gonorrhea, he'll get 5 PMs asking how the blowjob was.

[QUOTE=Talon;2376688]Save yourself the trouble, don't hook up with Emiliana Villegas Londoo at [URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634[/URL].

I suppose it was only a matter a time before I had my first really bad experience. I had hooked up with Emiliana five times before without any issues. Sure, she was somewhat lazy, and she was always complaining about needing money, but she had a killer natural body that was just my type and I never had a problem getting off with her.

That all changed tonight, when she unexpectedly showed up an hour early. Now I would usually consider punctuality a good thing, but after having sex every day for close to a month and considering the fact I'm not 20 anymore I needed time for the vitamin V to kick in.

Well I thought I could muddle through if I took things slowly. After we undressed, she sucked me a little, then immediately got on all fours and told me to mount her. I couldn't--I was still only half hard at most. I tried to slow things down by giving her a back massage but she started to impatiently demand we start to fuck.

Things really began to go south. I flipped her over to her back to play with her boobs and eat her out, but she stopped me and kept complaining. I ask her to suck me until I was hard and she visibly rolled her eyes. It's now obvious the mood is completely killed by her poor attitude. She demands to know why I'm not hard. I tried to explain that guys are not machines--it's not like I have a hidden dial that I can turn to go immediately to full mast. Can't seem to get through to her.

So finally I told her to dress and leave. She demands I pay her 250--50 more than I usually do. I demand to know why should I when we never even had sex and she's been there less than 20 minutes. I throw 150 mil at her and told her to get out. But she refuses and wants 250.

I've never been in this situation before and am not sure what to do. I sulk in bed looking at my laptop why she keeps demanding another 100 mil. I thought maybe if I ignore her she'll eventually go away. No dice. She threatens to call the doorman. She picks up the phone in the apartment but is not able to get it to work. Then she threatens to call the police. I call her bluff and still refuse. She calls them and puts them on speaker. My Spanish could use some work but I make out enough that she says I didn't pay her and starts giving out the name of the building and the apartment number. I have a plane to catch tomorrow and I don't have time for this shit. I throw another 100 at her and she hangs up and leaves.

She may have gotten my money but at least I can have a modicum of revenge by warning others.[/QUOTE]Geez, I am just seeing this now. I learned about her on another board earlier this year. Such a killer body but a complete criminal, apparently. Thanks for the story though. It is a good warning.

Just to play devil's advocate, I can confirm that Colombians do the same on local equivalents of this forum. Zandaly has an online nemesis who defamed the place relentlessly for a couple of years. It got to the point of being comical. I often wonder what set the guy off.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2377633]Whenever it is the foreigner scorned deal it is a person that pops up out of nowhere saying this chick has hiv or robbed me or whatever else. It is not someone like Talon that has a history of posting on the board. Of course your mileage will vary. But if someone of his posting history says don't go fucking around over there because there are a few poisonous snakes, I am going to listen. They say a smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. If this man says he was with this chick several other times with no problems then all of a sudden she went off the rails, then I would definitely buy that.[/QUOTE]

I see so many cheap hotels without A. See in Colombia, especially in the Laurels area, would you guys recommend I book one of these to save $ or is Colombia too hot for just a fan?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2377854]I see so many cheap hotels without A. See in Colombia, especially in the Laurels area, would you guys recommend I book one of these to save $ or is Colombia too hot for just a fan?[/QUOTE]The city of Medelland is called the City of Eternal Spring, don't confuse it with Cartagena where the humidity hits you like a sauna, they don't have air conditioning in Medellin because they don't need it, some of the flacas that visit my apartment complain about being cold without AC, Medellin has a Goldilocks climate 365 , not too hot not too cold, weather wise Medellin is paradise. You might want to put in a long sleeve shirt at night if you get cold easy. At home I crank the air at night to sleep better, but in Medellin I don't even use a fan

This Thread is supposed to be about where you got laid, not the bullshit.

RTTF! ! !

Bull Shit goes Here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2377854]I see so many cheap hotels without A. See in Colombia, especially in the Laurels area, would you guys recommend I book one of these to save $ or is Colombia too hot for just a fan?[/QUOTE]It actually depends on where your staying. If you are in a building whether it be an apartment or a hotel that is west facing with a lot of windows, you will probably need air conditioning. I've stayed in several apartments over the years, and the ones that are east facing won't need them as a fan will suffice, however the west facing apartments will get a lot of heat from the afternoon sun, and at a minimum need a fan and even AC at least to cool down a bedroom for sleeping. However, the Colombians are used to the heat. In your case if your going to stay in a cheap hotel, just have them give you a room without direct western exposure and a fan will be fine.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377139]It would be nice if there were search terms to find them. But it's not that easy. You have to start with a profile that has a lot of prepago Friends in there friends list. Use the search function on this thread, search "Facebook" There are posts with links, like the one I posted with a link to a chicas profile that has many prepago Friends, but she also has some gringo friends, and they have many prepago Friends, but the trick is finding one who had their list open to see. There are a couple in a post if you search like I said, do the search in this thread and you'll find it, now I'm going to throw you a bone, or two

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100038143365654[/URL]

https://m.facebook.com/angie.gomez.14224?

https://m.facebook.com/carolmichel.buitragoortiz.7
Carol has the most obvious prepago profile picture, you'll also see when you start looking, the purple devil emojis, horns on their head, photos in underwear etc[/QUOTE]I am facebook friends with the first two, and 20 other ones as well. I will be in Medellin this Monday and will spend 15 days there.

As I stated in my previous post, I will be in Medellin this upcoming Monday. I will be there for 15 days. I will be staying in Laureles on La 70 (near Mondongos). I've been to Medellin several times, so I know the lay of the land and have stayed in Laureles most of those times.

Anyone know of any casas in Laureles near La 70 (yes I can speak Spanish, so give me those ones as well) ? Something simple. Go in, drink a beer or two, BJ, FS or whatever, pay then leave. Just that type. If there is a post with a map somewhere on here, can someone re-post it for me?

Thanks.

Currently in MDE for couple of weeks. Mainly do casas as I am not sure I want to try Veracruz area without a wing.

Man the first time. Went to Energy the first day. The price for one hour was 150 COP. I think the MDE list says 170 COP.

Line up has gone down since I was there 1.5 years ago. I guess the economy has become really good or more are doing the better paying FB route. I like spinners so if you like them thicker you might like the current lineup. There was one spinner, Karen 18 yo. Had a great time with her and will repeat during my trip.

Even good old New Life was poor. Almost all the girls were the same as I saw last trip and most were thick. Good thing about Centro you can catch and release at a good price. I tried three. The first did not want to be there, the second had too many rules; no fingers, not too hard, you are too heavy. Finally the third did her job. She was the thinnest but was 27 so we'll ridden. 180 COP damage total so I can't complain. In the past there were always 3-5 college student and sinners to choose from. Maybe it is just cyclical or it is time to go fishing elsewhere.

Did Oriental spa in Laureles. One hour real massage plus happy ending was 90 COP. I enjoyed it and the masseuse was a very attractive 19 yo Morena with perky breast. She strips down to panties for the treatment. She gives you a shower after wards.

I am in town for a couple of weeks so if any of the veterans of the street scene wants a wing man hit me up.

I wanted to do her but she quoted 100 COP at which I balked. I had just finished with Karen and thought the price was too high.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2378004]A

Anyone know of any casas in Laureles near La 70

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should check the Medellin map that is available in this forum. I think it even has its own thread.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377879]they don't have air conditioning in Medellin because they don't need it[/QUOTE]There is definitely AC in Medellin. Even this month it has been pretty hot during the day when the sun was out. Not all, but the better gyms tend to have AC as well as hotels, malls, etc. The metro tries to have AC but sometimes it seems like hot air LOL.

I disagree. I recommend air conditioning. It gets hot during the day and a bit humid. Your apartment or hotel without AC will not feel that comfortable. I have had chicas even ask me to turn on the ac higher after intense love making. San Peter apts all have air. TRYP hotel has it. The good places all should have it. Be careful with some of the Centro hotels like hotel botero They advertise AC but it doesn't work and hasn't in years. The difference in price isn't that much. You are there to have a good time why sacrifice AC?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377879]The city of Medelland is called the City of Eternal Spring, don't confuse it with Cartagena where the humidity hits you like a sauna, they don't have air conditioning in Medellin because they don't need it, some of the flacas that visit my apartment complain about being cold without AC, Medellin has a Goldilocks climate 365 , not too hot not too cold, weather wise Medellin is paradise. You might want to put in a long sleeve shirt at night if you get cold easy. At home I crank the air at night to sleep better, but in Medellin I don't even use a fan[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377879]The city of Medelland is called the City of Eternal Spring, don't confuse it with Cartagena where the humidity hits you like a sauna, they don't have air conditioning in Medellin because they don't need it, some of the flacas that visit my apartment complain about being cold without AC, Medellin has a Goldilocks climate 365 , not too hot not too cold, weather wise Medellin is paradise. You might want to put in a long sleeve shirt at night if you get cold easy. At home I crank the air at night to sleep better, but in Medellin I don't even use a fan[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, I'm coming from Jamaica & I don't use A. See but it does get hot in the early afternoons & I definitely don't want to be that hot but you're making Medellin sound a whole lot cooler than Jamaica which makes me want to book the cheap hotel so I can have more spending $ on my vaca.

There's a super cheap hotel I'm seeing on Expedia called "Ayenda 1245 Hotel Belen Plaza," it's $153 for 14 nights, it comes with a ceiling fan & house keeping & looks fairly clean, it's in Calle 30 in Laureles, would you guys book here if you just wanted somewhere to sleep in a safe area for cheap or no? [URL]https://www.expedia.com/Medellin-Hotels-Hotel-Belen-Plaza.h4992691.Hotel-Information?chkin=10%2F29%2F2019&chkout=11%2F12%2F2019&regionId=6270645&destination=Laureles%2C[/URL]+Medellin%2 C+Colombia&swpToggleOn=true&rm1=a1&x_pwa=1&price=0%2 C200&sort=price&top_dp=11&top_cur=USD&rfrr=HSR&pwa_ts=1570287607477 Here's the link.

P. s I'm not planning on bringing any chicas back to my room.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378068]Thanks for the reply, I'm coming from Jamaica & I don't use A. See but it does get hot in the early afternoons & I definitely don't want to be that hot but you're making Medellin sound a whole lot cooler than Jamaica which makes me want to book the cheap hotel so I can have more spending $ on my vaca.[/QUOTE]With a high of 80 and lows of 60 at night, someone from Jamaica will be looking for a blanket, not air conditioning.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378068]Thanks for the reply, I'm coming from Jamaica & I don't use A. See but it does get hot in the early afternoons & I definitely don't want to be that hot but you're making Medellin sound a whole lot cooler than Jamaica which makes me want to book the cheap hotel so I can have more spending $ on my vaca.

There's a super cheap hotel I'm seeing on Expedia called "Ayenda 1245 Hotel Belen Plaza," it's $153 for 14 nights, it comes with a ceiling fan & house keeping & looks fairly clean, it's in Calle 30 in Laureles, would you guys book here if you just wanted somewhere to sleep in a safe area for cheap or no? [URL]https://www.expedia.com/Medellin-Hotels-Hotel-Belen-Plaza.h4992691.Hotel-Information?chkin=10%2F29%2F2019&chkout=11%2F12%2F2019&regionId=6270645&destination=Laureles%2C[/URL]+Medellin%2 C+Colombia&swpToggleOn=true&rm1=a1&x_pwa=1&price=0%2 C200&sort=price&top_dp=11&top_cur=USD&rfrr=HSR&pwa_ts=1570287607477 Here's the link.

P. s I'm not planning on bringing any chicas back to my room.[/QUOTE]Since you said you won't bring girl back, I think you should find a hotel near the venues you want to visit. This hotel is a little far, the transportation cost may cost as much as the hotel itself. If you want to stay in Laureles, most people seem to be staying near La 70 or the metro stops.

New Life does not have AC but I have noticed that some chicas would turn fan on during sex.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365993]Huh? You know you can give a chick here in Thailand $300 for the same damn thing right? I was talking to a buddy the other day that was giving this chick a $100 retainer every month to come over and fuck and cook and clean whenever and as many times as he wanted. He showed me the picture and ended up being a chick that I used to fuck too. I had met her on tagged way back when.

Hilarious because Chunky Monkey is where we were eating Wednesday when this story happened.[/QUOTE]Paisa beats Thai IMHO.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2378087]Since you said you won't bring girl back, I think you should find a hotel near the venues you want to visit. This hotel is a little far, the transportation cost may cost as much as the hotel itself. If you want to stay in Laureles, most people seem to be staying near La 70 or the metro stops.

New Life does not have AC but I have noticed that some chicas would turn fan on during sex.[/QUOTE]I plan on taking uber everywhere pretty much, I probably will do most of my mongering in El Centro but from time to time will go to Luna Lunera & will check out Parque Lleras as well. The only reason I'm aprehensive to book a hotel in El Centro is because I plan on going out at night often & I don't want to feel unsafe leaving or returning to the hotel as I'm a strip club kinda guy.

2 Questions:

1. Do you or anybody else care to give me some hotel recommendations for inexpensive, safe & central hotels?

2. Both Playmates Bar Show & Barra Ejecutiva are opened until 3-4 am & google shows that from 8-10 pm are when they are most busy; would you guys go to these places late at night directly via Uber both ways?

Have anyone ever heard of it? My friend is in Colombia for the first time and told me about it. Never heard anyone mention it.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378068]Thanks for the reply, I'm coming from Jamaica & I don't use A. See but it does get hot in the early afternoons & I definitely don't want to be that hot but you're making Medellin sound a whole lot cooler than Jamaica which makes me want to book the cheap hotel so I can have more spending $ on my vaca.

There's a super cheap hotel I'm seeing on Expedia called "Ayenda 1245 Hotel Belen Plaza," it's $153 for 14 nights, it comes with a ceiling fan & house keeping & looks fairly clean, it's in Calle 30 in Laureles, would you guys book here if you just wanted somewhere to sleep in a safe area for cheap or no? [URL]https://www.expedia.com/Medellin-Hotels-Hotel-Belen-Plaza.h4992691.Hotel-Information?chkin=10%2F29%2F2019&chkout=11%2F12%2F2019&regionId=6270645&destination=Laureles%2C[/URL]+Medellin%2 C+Colombia&swpToggleOn=true&rm1=a1&x_pwa=1&price=0%2 C200&sort=price&top_dp=11&top_cur=USD&rfrr=HSR&pwa_ts=1570287607477 Here's the link.

P. s I'm not planning on bringing any chicas back to my room.[/QUOTE]I would book there, if I was just looking for a cheap place to sleep. However, I wouldn't generally recommend it to a first time visitors.

For me, it would be fine. It's a short walk to a L1 Metro Bus station. It's also not too far to walk up to La 70, although there's a few blocks that might make some people nervous if walking at night. There's cheap, reasonable food around.

It all depends on how comfortable you are being off the beaten path.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2378187]Have anyone ever heard of it? My friend is in Colombia for the first time and told me about it. Never heard anyone mention it.[/QUOTE]Never heard of it.

It's a local club. One of his friend took him there. My fav fb girl heard about the place but doesn't know the address. I think we need someone to infiltrate the local forum and get local club locations jajaja.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2378207]Never heard of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378160]I plan on taking uber everywhere pretty much
[/QUOTE]If you are taking uber everywhere, why does it matter which hotel you book as you are not walking? You need to consider taking taxi too. Depending on where you are, it is possible that uber may not want to pick up in this area that late at night, you will end up waiting for a long time for uber to be available.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378160]The only reason I'm aprehensive to book a hotel in El Centro is because I plan on going out at night often & I don't want to feel unsafe leaving or returning to the hotel [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RickyZanchez;2378034]

Even good old New Life was poor. Almost all the girls were the same as I saw last trip and most were thick. Good thing about Centro you can catch and release at a good price. I tried three. The first did not want to be there, the second had too many rules; no fingers, not too hard, you are too heavy. Finally the third did her job. She was the thinnest but was 27 so we'll ridden. 180 COP damage total so I can't complain. In the past there were always 3-5 college student and sinners to choose from. Maybe it is just cyclical or it is time to go fishing elsewhere.
[/QUOTE]I have pretty good experience with several girls there. I think the lineup is good currently. For the price, I also don't expect much. I repeated Dulce several times, she is a spinner with tight body from Cali working in New Life for only a few weeks and has returned to Cali now. I actually thought she was another girl when I picked her the first time. The last time I saw her before she left, I was not hard enough, she lubed my hand and guided me to finger her to get me aroused. She is also the prettiest girl I have met in New Life.

Hotel Ayendo Botero & Centro. The Hotel has no AC, but the fan works well, open a window and you'll need a blanket. Then the hotel is girl friendly. You don't like centro girls but you come to centro to complain about how ugly & fat the girls are. Stay in Laureles & Poblado & pay the extra fees and higher rates of hotels and everything else in the surrounding. I've met many mongers in centro & many didn't want to spend $40,000 pesos on a girl, but would spend $120,000 or more a night for a room. Many of you guys priorities are out of sink, but to each their own, Centro will always be home for me and 35 days at Ayendo was $463 usd & you guys are complaining about the AC. Whether you know it or not, not many Colombians in Medellin can afford an AC, but carry on mongers. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2378187]Have anyone ever heard of it? My friend is in Colombia for the first time and told me about it. Never heard anyone mention it.[/QUOTE]That name rings a bell. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's in San Diego, a couple of blocks away from Fase dos. It's a late late night place, where chicas primarily from Fase dos come after everything closes and you get a big discount on those girl's. I have been to it twice, there is a place you go upstairs with the Chica. Main floor is meeting these girls and drinking. I believe that's the name of it.

Yup that's the one. He told me it's Fase dos after hour club. Now if we can find out where it locate LOL.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2378353]That name rings a bell. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's in San Diego, a couple of blocks away from Fase dos. It's a late late night place, where chicas primarily from Fase dos come after everything closes and you get a big discount on those girl's. I have been to it twice, there is a place you go upstairs with the Chica. Main floor is meeting these girls and drinking. I believe that's the name of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2378238]Hotel Ayendo Botero & Centro. The Hotel has no AC, but the fan works well, open a window and you'll need a blanket. Then the hotel is girl friendly. You don't like centro girls but you come to centro to complain about how ugly & fat the girls are. Stay in Laureles & Poblado & pay the extra fees and higher rates of hotels and everything else in the surrounding. I've met many mongers in centro & many didn't want to spend $40,000 pesos on a girl, but would spend $120,000 or more a night for a room. Many of you guys priorities are out of sink, but to each their own, Centro will always be home for me and 35 days at Ayendo was $463 usd & you guys are complaining about the AC. Whether you know it or not, not many Colombians in Medellin can afford an AC, but carry on mongers. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Good to see people talking about hotels and pricing, I think when I book either later this month or early November I'm going to book a Centro hotel as it seems close to most of the places I plan on going & Botero, the hotel you just named seem to have decent reviews. The only people who seem to complain are people who aren't use to seeing homeless people etc. It's also only a 3 minute walk to the strip clubs & super cheap so it looks like jackpot to me, thanks for the suggestion.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378456]The only people who seem to complain are people who aren't use to seeing homeless people etc. It's also only a 3 minute walk to the strip clubs & super cheap so it looks like jackpot to me, thanks for the suggestion.[/QUOTE]Keep some coins in your pocket, give the beggar who approach you a couple of coins or a small bill, the beggar should leave you alone.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2378456]Good to see people talking about hotels and pricing, I think when I book either later this month or early November I'm going to book a Centro hotel as it seems close to most of the places I plan on going & Botero, the hotel you just named seem to have decent reviews. The only people who seem to complain are people who aren't use to seeing homeless people etc. It's also only a 3 minute walk to the strip clubs & super cheap so it looks like jackpot to me, thanks for the suggestion.[/QUOTE]Its gets no cheaper at such a close location and clean environment, but to each their own. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2378463]Keep some coins in your pocket, give the beggar who approach you a couple of coins or a small bill, the beggar should leave you alone.[/QUOTE]I do not think I have ever had a beggar approach me in Medellin. The ones that do in Santa Fe (next to never) or any other place around the world, I just wag my finger and shake my head no before they can even ask. You give to one, and soon his buddies will be over there expecting too; especially with kid beggars.

We did give a dope fiend 2000 pesos to dance and smoke his pipe while we made a video late one night in front of Vera Cruz though. We apprached him, he didn't approach us. I posted pictures here at the time to show how dangerous it wasn't, and was admonished for it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2378471]I do not think I have ever had a beggar approach me in Medellin. The ones that do in Santa Fe (next to never) or any other place around the world, I just wag my finger and shake my head no before they can even ask. You give to one, and soon his buddies will be over there expecting too; especially with kid beggars.[/QUOTE]I know people may say that but this is an easy way out of a uncomfortable situation for new visitors. There will be no problem if you can walk away. But this is an easy way out if you have to stay there to wait for taxi or uber.

I did not spell out the detail. There will be some late at night around Hotel Botero, and I think it is because it is the airport bus final stop. I have seen something similar a few times in day time in other parts of El Centro too. I see people open the taxi door for local, and local always give some changes to the person opening the taxi door. two 200 pesos coins is only 400 pesos.

I went to Parque Lleras last night to do what I said I wanted to to which was take in the scene. I have to say that I thank the members here because I did not walk in blind and stupid. There were a few sexy chicas that gave me long looks that made me wonder if they wanted me to hit on them and since the place is crawling with better looking, younger guys than this gordo, I wondered if they were prostitutes but I actually only had two SWs solicit me and one was just very unattractive early to mid twenties, as soon as she reached out to rub my shoulder I put my hand up palm toward her and before the she could ay the word compaera I instantly and almost rudely said 'no necesito', the next one hit on me in that little mall area under Gusto and I swear she was older than me (old) and her make up was painted on in thick vibrant colors, I almost felt sorry for her so I was at least polite when I turned her down. I went up to Gusto, to see if there was Eye Candy and sure enough there were a few stunners and plenty of attractive sexy women. A few gave me the smile and the eye, and since I am quite sure its not because I am young and attractive, but that gringo dinero is attravtive, I didn't even smile back to I just nodded walked around the place long enough to drink one beer, and left. Some members say that you can get a chica there for 200 k if you keep your wits, negotiate and be sure that you both understand the price in pesos, but I had just had a good session that afternoon with a sweet little thing in my apartment so at my age it would be pushing it anyway.

Overall I enjoyed the scene though, actually had my first full conversation in English in the four days since being in Colombia, (which for me means my first full conversation) with some gringos I encountered. I would go back for another Saturday night but I advise anyone who goes there to read all the post here so that you go there with as much knowledge as you need not to get scammed.

I have been having all Facebook sessions since being here and for the most part they have all been fantastic. Full GFE, only one refused BBBJ, so my advice is to get them to agree on this before, I know that it has been said on here before so its my bad for forgetting to clarify this in advance. Still had a halfway decent session with this chica except for her fake moaning, and the only way I know how to say be quiet in spanish is "callate" and it would be a little too rude to tell someone "shut up" in the middle of sex.

There is plenty of talk about preferences and prices and all that on this thread so what I am about to say is IMOP; it will not satisfy everyone. My way of doing things will not please everyone. But I'm sitting in my apartment and I can order Rappi for breakfast lunch and dinner, mostly it usually comes to about $5 and I order some of the hottest, sexiest looking women I have seen right off the Facebook menu for $50. I have not had a session where the chica was more interested in the clock than getting me off, I have found them to have sweet demeanor and pleasant to be with. None of them would make the NBA for fucking my brains out, although a couple tried out for the big leagues of blowjobs and almost made the cut.

I have been planning this trip for a few months and was obsessive about building a list of Facebook chicas for a couple of months, there are way more hot chicas on my list than I have time to session with but I am trying my best. I will write a much more in-depth report and I will be sharing profiles when I depart the country. But for me right now it is like the twelve days of Christmas and I am opening another present I gave myself every day.

My focus has been Facebook chicas, like a laser. If any member wants to PM me I will gladly give advice about building a list and about how to interact with them prior to the meeting. It is a delicate balance between too much contact, too soon to contact etc, I have been given excellent advice by members who have much more experience than I do and it has been working for me. I did not as many members say they do, announce my presence in Medellin, I have been slowly telling certain chicas that am here just at the time I am ready to make an appointment, mostly a day of two before I want to see them.

I will be deleting all of them from my chica Facebook friends when I leave here because I am using my real profile and I want to turn off my privacy controls so every time I post something I do not have to exclude all the chicas. If I get an opportunity to come back I will have all their profiles bookmarked (for sharing also) in a browser and start all over with a Medellin profile.

"Except for her fake moaning, and the only way I know how to say be quiet in Spanish is "callate" and it would be a little too rude to tell someone "shut up" in the middle of sex. ".

Shhhhhhhh (whispering) Tranquilo bebe. No quiero oir eso. (while laughing).

Pronounced "no key-arrow oh-ear eso". I don't want to hear that.

Or if easier for you: No quiero escuchar eso. Pronounced es-ku-char I don't want to listen to that.

2 pro tips about fake moaning (I think most guys hate it):

1. You don't need Spanish, you can just make a soft shushing sound the way you would when someone makes too much noise in the cinema.

2. fake moaning in provider speak means "hurry up, I want to be done with this as soon as possible".

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2378489]I went to Parque Lleras last night to do what I said I wanted to to which was take in the scene. I have to say that I thank the members here because I did not walk in blind and stupid. There were a few sexy chicas that gave me long looks that made me wonder if they wanted me to hit on them and since the place is crawling with better looking, younger guys than this gordo, I wondered if they were prostitutes but I actually only had two SWs solicit me and one was just very unattractive early to mid twenties, as soon as she reached out to rub my shoulder I put my hand up palm toward her and before the she could ay the word compaera I instantly and almost rudely said 'no necesito', the next one hit on me in that little mall area under Gusto and I swear she was older than me (old) and her make up was painted on in thick vibrant colors, I almost felt sorry for her so I was at least polite when I turned her down. I went up to Gusto, to see if there was Eye Candy and sure enough there were a few stunners and plenty of attractive sexy women. A few gave me the smile and the eye, and since I am quite sure its not because I am young and attractive, but that gringo dinero is attravtive, I didn't even smile back to I just nodded walked around the place long enough to drink one beer, and left. Some members say that you can get a chica there for 200 k if you keep your wits, negotiate and be sure that you both understand the price in pesos, but I had just had a good session that afternoon with a sweet little thing in my apartment so at my age it would be pushing it anyway...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2378463]Keep some coins in your pocket, give the beggar who approach you a couple of coins or a small bill, the beggar should leave you alone.[/QUOTE]I buy candy, chocolates and biscuits being sold on the streets by people who don't want to just beg and give them to the girls after sessions. They appreciate the gesture.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2378395]Yup that's the one. He told me it's Fase dos after hour club. Now if we can find out where it locate LOL.[/QUOTE]My second time in Medellin I heard about the place and I came across the address in the picture.

I had similar FB privacy concerns, so before I built up my list, I created a fake account, with a fake name. I then mined FB as you did.

When I am home, I just don't login to that account until I am close to coming back to Colombia and then I start reaching out.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2378489]I went to Parque Lleras last night to do what I said I wanted to to which was take in the scene. I have to say that I thank the members here because I did not walk in blind and stupid. There were a few sexy chicas that gave me long looks that made me wonder if they wanted me to hit on them and since the place is crawling with better looking, younger guys than this gordo, I wondered if they were prostitutes but I actually only had two SWs solicit me and one was just very unattractive early to mid twenties, as soon as she reached out to rub my shoulder I put my hand up palm toward her and before the she could ay the word compaera I instantly and almost rudely said 'no necesito', the next one hit on me in that little mall area under Gusto and I swear she was older than me (old) and her make up was painted on in thick vibrant colors, I almost felt sorry for her so I was at least polite when I turned her down. I went up to Gusto, to see if there was Eye Candy and sure enough there were a few stunners and plenty of attractive sexy women. A few gave me the smile and the eye, and since I am quite sure its not because I am young and attractive, but that gringo dinero is attravtive, I didn't even smile back to I just nodded walked around the place long enough to drink one beer, and left. Some members say that you can get a chica there for 200 k if you keep your wits, negotiate and be sure that you both understand the price in pesos, but I had just had a good session that afternoon with a sweet little thing in my apartment so at my age it would be pushing it anyway..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2378489]I went to Parque Lleras last night to do what I said I wanted to to which was take in the scene. I have to say that I thank the members here because I did not walk in blind and stupid. There were a few sexy chicas that gave me long looks that made me wonder if they wanted me to hit on them and since the place is crawling with better looking, younger guys than this gordo, I wondered if they were prostitutes but I actually only had two SWs solicit me and one was just very unattractive early to mid twenties, as soon as she reached out to rub my shoulder I put my hand up palm toward her and before the she could ay the word compaera I instantly and almost rudely said 'no necesito', the next one hit on me in that little mall area under Gusto and I swear she was older than me (old) and her make up was painted on in thick vibrant colors, I almost felt sorry for her so I was at least polite when I turned her down. I went up to Gusto, to see if there was Eye Candy and sure enough there were a few stunners and plenty of attractive sexy women. A few gave me the smile and the eye, and since I am quite sure its not because I am young and attractive, but that gringo dinero is attravtive, I didn't even smile back to I just nodded walked around the place long enough to drink one beer, and left. Some members say that you can get a chica there for 200 k if you keep your wits, negotiate and be sure that you both understand the price in pesos, but I had just had a good session that afternoon with a sweet little thing in my apartment so at my age it would be pushing it anyway..[/QUOTE]That's impressive preparation you have done and obviously it paid off. I will be in MDE mid November with evenings to spare. I'm thinking using FB as well as the main / only source to hook up with local talent. I will be staying in Poblado. Probably Airbnb, since not interested negotiating with hotel bouncers. If you're willing to share some of your FB contacts would be great.

[QUOTE=HeavyD25;2378777]My second time in Medellin I heard about the place and I came across the address in the picture.[/QUOTE]Hey, thanks for finding that information. Can you post the address. I will be there soon I hope to check it out.

I appreciated you are able to find that place, we can add that to the list of Chica places. My friend told me more about the place. It seems to open after all the regular club close down (after hour club). I don't normally stay up that late but who know?

[QUOTE=HeavyD25;2378777]My second time in Medellin I heard about the place and I came across the address in the picture.[/QUOTE]

Great info in this report Mojo. Any guidance on FB is always appreciated around here.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2378489]I went to Parque Lleras last night to do what I said I wanted to to which was take in the scene. I have to say that I thank the members here because I did not walk in blind and stupid. There were a few sexy chicas that gave me long looks that made me wonder if they wanted me to hit on them and since the place is crawling with better looking, younger guys than this gordo, I wondered if they were prostitutes but I actually only had two SWs solicit me and one was just very unattractive early to mid twenties, as soon as she reached out to rub my shoulder I put my hand up palm toward her and before the she could ay the word compaera I instantly and almost rudely said 'no necesito', the next one hit on me in that little mall area under Gusto and I swear she was older than me (old) and her make up was painted on in thick vibrant colors, I almost felt sorry for her so I was at least polite when I turned her down. I went up to Gusto, to see if there was Eye Candy and sure enough there were a few stunners and plenty of attractive sexy women. A few gave me the smile and the eye, and since I am quite sure its not because I am young and attractive, but that gringo dinero is attravtive, I didn't even smile back to I just nodded walked around the place long enough to drink one beer, and left. Some members say that you can get a chica there for 200 k if you keep your wits, negotiate and be sure that you both understand the price in pesos, but I had just had a good session that afternoon with a sweet little thing in my apartment so at my age it would be pushing it anyway...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2378500]"except for her fake moaning, and the only way I know how to say be quiet in spanish is "callate" and it would be a little too rude to tell someone "shut up" in the middle of sex. ".

Shhhhhhhh (whispering) Tranquilo bebe. No quiero oir eso. (while laughing).

Pronounced "no key-arrow oh-ear eso". I don't want to hear that.

Or if easier for you: No quiero escuchar eso. Pronounced es-ku-char I don't want to listen to that.[/QUOTE]Or you could just say, "Bajito bebe o nos escuchan los vecinos" which is like quiet please, the neighbors will hear! "No quiero escuchar eso" is really direct and a but ugly. So if you don't want to ruin the moment, especially if you were wrong and the moaning was real (in my experience Colombians are not fakers, they love sex). Say something more like, "Amor, se escucha la respiracion, asi es que me gusta a mi. Dame mas!" . LOL and then just put your hand over her mouth! And if you want more noise: "quiero escucharte jemir amor, subale el volumen!

This thread is making me smile and think about the Karol G song "Mi cama". "Mi cama suena the ta the ta".

[QUOTE=Putero1;2379150]Or you could just say, "Bajito bebe o nos escuchan los vecinos" which is like quiet please, the neighbors will hear! "No quiero escuchar eso" is really direct and a but ugly. So if you don't want to ruin the moment, especially if you were wrong and the moaning was real (in my experience Colombians are not fakers, they love sex). Say something more like, "Amor, se escucha la respiracion, asi es que me gusta a mi. Dame mas!" . LOL and then just put your hand over her mouth! And if you want more noise: "quiero escucharte jemir amor, subale el volumen![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2378187]Have anyone ever heard of it? My friend is in Colombia for the first time and told me about it. Never heard anyone mention it.[/QUOTE]I've been there a few times. It opens everyday from the time Fase II close until 6-7 am. Girls from Fase II and gusto goes there after work. The place is small, no real dance floor. You typically sit at a table, order drinks and girls will come dance with you next to your table. Drinks there are expensive, girls get a cut for every drink you buy them. I have never walked out there with a bill less than 200 k, but I love dancing, so I tend to stay longer and buy more drinks. It cost 190 to fuck a girl upstairs. If you take them back to your place, you will have to pay 100 k to the club, then negotiate price with the girl. They will typically do it for around 150-250 k, depending on your service request. Any taxi driver can take you to "El Faisan", it is the only after hour place in town on Sunday night.

I personally prefer Faisan's upscale counterpart, Paradise. Where as faisan is the after party place for Fase II, Paradise is the after party club for la isla. It has a proper dance floor, two levels, girls are hotter and cost a bit more. The view from the back of Paradise is breath taking.

I'll probably check them both out. Does Paradise open after la isla closed and closed on Sunday. I guess Faisan get all the girls on Sunday. It might be a good day to visit Faisan.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2379449]I've been there a few times. It opens everyday from the time Fase II close until 6-7 am. Girls from Fase II and gusto goes there after work. The place is small, no real dance floor. You typically sit at a table, order drinks and girls will come dance with you next to your table. Drinks there are expensive, girls get a cut for every drink you buy them. I have never walked out there with a bill less than 200 k, but I love dancing, so I tend to stay longer and buy more drinks. It cost 190 to fuck a girl upstairs. If you take them back to your place, you will have to pay 100 k to the club, then negotiate price with the girl. They will typically do it for around 150-250 k, depending on your service request. Any taxi driver can take you to "El Faisan", it is the only after hour place in town on Sunday night.

I personally prefer Faisan's upscale counterpart, Paradise. Where as faisan is the after party place for Fase II, Paradise is the after party club for la isla. It has a proper dance floor, two levels, girls are hotter and cost a bit more. The view from the back of Paradise is breath taking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379451]I'll probably check them both out. Does Paradise open after la isla closed and closed on Sunday. I guess Faisan get all the girls on Sunday. It might be a good day to visit Faisan.[/QUOTE]Yes, paradise always open after la isla closes and it closes on Sunday. The lineup at Faisán is pretty acceptable on Sunday night.

Anyone have some recommendations for short time motel / hotel. My friend is looking for a decent one that doesn't check ID so he can take his Venezuelan GF to, preferably a nice one. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2379222]This thread is making me smile and think about the Karol G song "Mi cama". "Mi cama suena the ta the ta".[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Beobeo;2379575]Anyone have some recommendations for short time motel / hotel. My friend is looking for a decent one that doesn't check ID so he can take his Venezuelan GF to, preferably a nice one. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Ibiza in Itagüí. But I'm not sure if they will let a girl in without an ID. Unless your friend really really really knows this girl well, and trusts her (and no man ever knows a girl well) I would tell your 'friend' not to mess-around with any chica who does not have an ID.

On the ground report from Medellin.

(please excuse my typos, I am typing this on my crappy old iPhone).

This city never ceases to amaze me. I've been here several times since my first time in summer of 2017 and I am just amazed each time at what I see in terms of beautiful chicas. Whether walking around, Mercado del Rio, riding the metro, or just hanging out in the one of their huge malls, you will see eye candy nearly every second of your time here.

This trip, my main sources for action are Tinder and the many Facebook chicas I've chatted with and will attempt to make "citas" with while here. Yes, I can speak Spanish.

My flight touched down early Tuesday morning at JMC Airport at 1:30 am. My driver (who has driven me around in my previous trips here) was waiting and he got me to my Laureles Airbnb rental in no time. I was checked in and unpacked my stuff in no time. The San Peter apartments in Laureles are great (just off of La 70 at Calle 41 a). They are in a good location, around a lot of restaurants, nice Exito grocery store nearby and some discotecas. They are very chica friendly. When a chica comes and you do not go down to meet them, the front desk calls you to confirm. And they call when she leaved asking are things okay and if she good to leave.

Those who know me know that I love staying in Laureles rather than the Poblado area. To say I love Laureles is an understatement.

I like to spent most of my daytime exploring Medellin on foot and bike, participating in various tours and activities. I like to save my chicas activities for the night and morning.

Now on to the chicas:

Early Tuesday morning (immediately after I unpacked my stuff after my arrival).

Paola - 19 year old Paisa (From Tinder) 3 am (Nice body, phat ass). She came over immediately after I sent her a WhatsApp message. Wasted no time. Laid me down on the bed. Gave me a BBBJ and about ten minutes later, leg trembling CIM. Thank you Paola. 80,000 pesos (plus a 10,000 tip).

Tuesday night.

Isabella - 25 year old Paisa (Facebook Girl) midnight (stunning looks, definitely a 10, cute face, nice petite, but phat in right places, looked elegant). My GOD! She is definitely a 10 if I ever seen one. Looked way better in person than her Facebook photos. Had rapport with her from our Facebook chats. She came over at 11 pm. We chatted, drank some Club Colombias and on to the bed. Started off with a wonderful BBBJ. I told her to stop. She was going fast and seem to be trying to make me bust. Fuck it. Shot a load in her mouth. She cleaned her mouth. We laid in bed. Talked more. I got hard again. Hit her doggystyle, missionary and on the floor. She a little screamer after 10 minutes in the snatch. Busted a good nut. Felt good. Turned into a TLN. In the morning, had morning wood. Isabella went to work. BBBJ. Another wonderful CIM. We went for breakfast. Ate good. She was out. Total. 280,000 pesos. I am going to hookup with her again. Trust me.

Wednesday early evening.

Maria - 23 year old Paisa (Facebook Girl). Very light skinned chica. Short and slim with nice little funbags. Long blond / brown mixed hair. A true spinner type body. Met her in Poblado on Calle 10. Walked to Hooters, I love their wings. Maria tore up some wings. Back to Calle 10 and dranked some shots at a little spot (I forget the name). Ubered back to my apt in Laureles. Straight to the bedroom. She removed her pants. Removed mine. She put the rubber on my rock for me. Doggystyle and missionary on the floor. Shot load. We never negotiated. Had rapport with her from Facebook chats. She said give me what you want. Okay. Here is 100,000 pesos (thinking of the food and drinks I bought for her). She was ok with it. I even sent her home with my Uber. I will hook up with her again.

Later Wednesday night.

Jenifer - 25 years old Paisa (Tinder Girl) midnight (Almost Morea, cute face, nice body, long hair, monster natural tits). After the baseball game (GO NATS), I sent her a Whatsapp message. She came over around midnight. Again, she had a nice set of tits. Amazed at them. Removed her shirt. Lubed them up, begin to tit-fuck her. She maneuvered them funbags good. I shot a streak of leche at her neck. Felt good. After she cleaned her tits, I sat there and played with the tits. She reminded me "only one hour. " Ok. Here is your 50,000 pesos. She left.

It is now Thursday morning as I make this post. Medellin has moved up to my Number 1 spot outside of Asia for mongering. I am amazed at the BBBJs (something I found difficult to get here on my previous visits).

Additionally, due to the strength of the US dollar against the pesos, this vacation is turning out to be real economical as I have not spent not even half the amount of money that I have expected to spend here. Uber rides are dirt cheap. And the pesos that the chicas want for their services are now lower than ALL famous mongering places on this side of the globe (maybe lower than Thailand and the PI as well).

This is going to be a Medellin vacay for the ages.

Stay tuned for more.

Side note: There is a spot behind San Peter Apartments called Punto de Encuentro (Just off of La 70). Some kid tried to get me to go there saying I can meet chicas who want to drink and fuck. I might give it a shot just to see what's up with it. Anyone been there?

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2379716]On the ground report from Medellin.

(please excuse my typos, I am typing this on my crappy old iPhone).

This city never ceases to amaze me. I've been here several times since my first time in summer of 2017 and I am just amazed each time at what I see in terms of beautiful chicas. Whether walking around, Mercado del Rio, riding the metro, or just hanging out in the one of their huge malls, you will see eye candy nearly every second of your time here.

This trip, my main sources for action are Tinder and the many Facebook chicas I've chatted with and will attempt to make "citas" with while here. Yes, I can speak Spanish.

My flight touched down early Tuesday morning at JMC Airport at 1:30 am. My driver (who has driven me around in my previous trips here) was waiting and he got me to my Laureles Airbnb rental in no time. I was checked in and unpacked my stuff in no time. The San Peter apartments in Laureles are great (just off of La 70 at Calle 41 a). They are in a good location, around a lot of restaurants, nice Exito grocery store nearby and some discotecas. They are very chica friendly. When a chica comes and you do not go down to meet them, the front desk calls you to confirm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for excellent report. I will be in MDE (first time) later part of November and in a process building a FB contact base ("fake" profile for obvious reasons). I probably need to stay in or close to Poblado, since having Spanish classes there. Any tips re AirBNB's in that area? Also if you could share some of your FB contacts would be great. I've send maybe 200 invitations and got 25 responses back so far. Not always easy to spot "prepago". My Spanish is beyond survival level and getting better every day.

Hola amigos,

I like to serenade the ladies. It has been my MO my whole life. They love it. Where can I get a cheap one in Poblado? Thanks for any replies.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2379716]... Side note: There is a spot behind San Peter Apartments called Punto de Encuentro (Just off of La 70). Some kid tried to get me to go there saying I can meet chicas who want to drink and fuck. I might give it a shot just to see what's up with it. Anyone been there?[/QUOTE]I was there one time. Only two chicas there, both maybe 5's. Beers were cheap for me (I think 5 mil), but expensive for the chica (I think 20 mil). I bought a beer for one of the chicas. She chatted for a few minutes, then took her beer and went to another part of the bar and talked with the other chica. I won't go back, but others may have a better experience. One good point is that it is completely open to the sidewalk, so you can check out who's there without going in.

I stayed at San Peter as well so I am familiar where the place is. I walked by it several times but never saw anything I would be interested in. I did walk by with one of my FB girlfriends and bought reefer from one of the guys that stands on that corner trying to lure people in

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2379758]I was there one time. Only two chicas there, both maybe 5's. Beers were cheap for me (I think 5 mil), but expensive for the chica (I think 20 mil). I bought a beer for one of the chicas. She chatted for a few minutes, then took her beer and went to another part of the bar and talked with the other chica. I won't go back, but others may have a better experience. One good point is that it is completely open to the sidewalk, so you can check out who's there without going in.[/QUOTE].

All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please 😁?

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2379716]On the ground report from Medellin.

(please excuse my typos, I am typing this on my crappy old iPhone).

This city never ceases to amaze me. I've been here several times since my first time in summer of 2017 and I am just amazed each time at what I see in terms of beautiful chicas. Whether walking around, Mercado del Rio, riding the metro, or just hanging out in the one of their huge malls, you will see eye candy nearly every second of your time here.

This trip, my main sources for action are Tinder and the many Facebook chicas I've chatted with and will attempt to make "citas" with while here. Yes, I can speak Spanish.

My flight touched down early Tuesday morning at JMC Airport at 1:30 am. My driver (who has driven me around in my previous trips here) was waiting and he got me to my Laureles Airbnb rental in no time. I was checked in and unpacked my stuff in no time. The San Peter apartments in Laureles are great (just off of La 70 at Calle 41 a). They are in a good location, around a lot of restaurants, nice Exito grocery store nearby and some discotecas. They are very chica friendly. When a chica comes and you do not go down to meet them, the front desk calls you to confirm. And they call when she leaved asking are things okay and if she good to leave.

Those who know me know that I love staying in Laureles rather than the Poblado area. To say I love Laureles is an understatement.

I like to spent most of my daytime exploring Medellin on foot and bike, participating in various tours and activities. I like to save my chicas activities for the night and morning.

Now on to the chicas:

Early Tuesday morning (immediately after I unpacked my stuff after my arrival).

Paola - 19 year old Paisa (From Tinder) 3 am (Nice body, phat ass). She came over immediately after I sent her a WhatsApp message. Wasted no time. Laid me down on the bed. Gave me a BBBJ and about ten minutes later, leg trembling CIM. Thank you Paola. 80,000 pesos (plus a 10,000 tip).

Tuesday night.

Isabella - 25 year old Paisa (Facebook Girl) midnight (stunning looks, definitely a 10, cute face, nice petite, but phat in right places, looked elegant). My GOD! She is definitely a 10 if I ever seen one. Looked way better in person than her Facebook photos. Had rapport with her from our Facebook chats. She came over at 11 pm. We chatted, drank some Club Colombias and on to the bed. Started off with a wonderful BBBJ. I told her to stop. She was going fast and seem to be trying to make me bust. Fuck it. Shot a load in her mouth. She cleaned her mouth. We laid in bed. Talked more. I got hard again. Hit her doggystyle, missionary and on the floor. She a little screamer after 10 minutes in the snatch. Busted a good nut. Felt good. Turned into a TLN. In the morning, had morning wood. Isabella went to work. BBBJ. Another wonderful CIM. We went for breakfast. Ate good. She was out. Total. 280,000 pesos. I am going to hookup with her again. Trust me.

Wednesday early evening.

Maria - 23 year old Paisa (Facebook Girl). Very light skinned chica. Short and slim with nice little funbags. Long blond / brown mixed hair. A true spinner type body. Met her in Poblado on Calle 10. Walked to Hooters, I love their wings. Maria tore up some wings. Back to Calle 10 and dranked some shots at a little spot (I forget the name). Ubered back to my apt in Laureles. Straight to the bedroom. She removed her pants. Removed mine. She put the rubber on my rock for me. Doggystyle and missionary on the floor. Shot load. We never negotiated. Had rapport with her from Facebook chats. She said give me what you want. Okay. Here is 100,000 pesos (thinking of the food and drinks I bought for her). She was ok with it. I even sent her home with my Uber. I will hook up with her again.

Later Wednesday night.

Jenifer - 25 years old Paisa (Tinder Girl) midnight (Almost Morea, cute face, nice body, long hair, monster natural tits). After the baseball game (GO NATS), I sent her a Whatsapp message. She came over around midnight. Again, she had a nice set of tits. Amazed at them. Removed her shirt. Lubed them up, begin to tit-fuck her. She maneuvered them funbags good. I shot a streak of leche at her neck. Felt good. After she cleaned her tits, I sat there and played with the tits. She reminded me "only one hour. " Ok. Here is your 50,000 pesos. She left.

It is now Thursday morning as I make this post. Medellin has moved up to my Number 1 spot outside of Asia for mongering. I am amazed at the BBBJs (something I found difficult to get here on my previous visits).

Additionally, due to the strength of the US dollar against the pesos, this vacation is turning out to be real economical as I have not spent not even half the amount of money that I have expected to spend here. Uber rides are dirt cheap. And the pesos that the chicas want for their services are now lower than ALL famous mongering places on this side of the globe (maybe lower than Thailand and the PI as well).

This is going to be a Medellin vacay for the ages.

Stay tuned for more.

Side note: There is a spot behind San Peter Apartments called Punto de Encuentro (Just off of La 70). Some kid tried to get me to go there saying I can meet chicas who want to drink and fuck. I might give it a shot just to see what's up with it. Anyone been there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379792]All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please 😁?[/QUOTE]Really? I've been getting quotes from FB gals that do Automatically BBJ and to get anal done for fairly around the same price as his experiences so far. Granted, I am also not an old man with pure money and all wrinkles. I think chicas charge different prices for different people. Just like how they work in different venues with different prices.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379792]All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please.[/QUOTE]Those prices were low, but I am used to seeing people write about paying ridiculous prices, so it is a breath of fresh air to read a trip report that is within the stratosphere. My M. O. Is I try to get some good chemistry then never talk about money. This is what I do 90% of the time, and then I pay what I want to pay. If you want to lock-it-down before-hand, it helps to have some fun Spanish, not just Spanish, by playful, flirty Spanish. A lot of girls will say they want to meet you but they don't go out on dates without a "plan. " That's Spanish code for, are you going to pay me? Si claro amor, tengo unos porritos why whiskicitos, and la pasamos bien rico. Soy generoso. Make it like a regular date and it is going to be fun, these girls hate sitting at home bored. And then if she says something stupid, like anything over 250 mil, just say ay no mami, tengo cara de gringo o que? Why LE sirve 100 mil lukitas bb? They will almost always ask you to pay taxi, and for me that is usually a yes. Not going to lie, it helps if you are younger and hermoso, and know how to talk to women. I hardly ever set anything up over text with someone new, I do well in person even though I am not as young as I used to be.

[QUOTE=Putero1;2379605]Ibiza in Itag. But I'm not sure if they will let a girl in without an ID. Unless your friend really really really knows this girl well, and trusts her (and no man ever knows a girl well) I would tell your 'friend' not to mess-around with any chica who does not have an ID.[/QUOTE]As of this past July, Motel Ibiza checks IDs of all girls coming in. I doubt if any of the nicer short time motels will let her in without an ID. He should be fine at the cheaper ones, unless she looks really young.

[QUOTE=DCups;2379741]Hola amigos,

I like to serenade the ladies. It has been my MO my whole life. They love it. Where can I get a cheap one in Poblado? Thanks for any replies.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of music stores on Calle 10. However, if I was looking for a cheap guitar, I'd hit the Compra Ventas (pawn shops) in El Centro.

I wish this was the case. I'm 34 year old above average looking Chino, no fat, no wrinkle, clean, well dress. I don't speak Spanish so it's kinda obvious gringo. Is that why?

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2379795]Really? I've been getting quotes from FB gals that do Automatically BBJ and to get anal done for fairly around the same price as his experiences so far. Granted, I am also not an old man with pure money and all wrinkles. I think chicas charge different prices for different people. Just like how they work in different venues with different prices.[/QUOTE]

I'm 62 years old. Balding and could lose a few pounds and have no issues with the girls. Yes I am fluent in Spanish. Often I just go out and have dinner or watch a movie with them. Makes a difference knowing the language

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379865]I wish this was the case. I'm 34 year old above average looking Chino, no fat, no wrinkle, clean, well dress. I don't speak Spanish so it's kinda obvious gringo. Is that why?[/QUOTE].

Poblado and cheap purchase are like oil and water. I have no advice for you there.

You can find cheap musical instruments in the pawn shops calle 54 west of Parque Bolivar and Palace. At the western end of calle 54 you will run into the street vendors lined up north of Plaza Botero all the way to the Prado metro station. It's probably best to just stick to the pawn shops. Make your purchase by 4 pm and you will have a couple of hours to grab a taxi or uber to get back to El Poblado before dark. If you want to check out girls or casas you should start around noon to leave time for your shopping.

[QUOTE=DCups;2379741]Hola amigos,

I like to serenade the ladies. It has been my MO my whole life. They love it. Where can I get a cheap one in Poblado? Thanks for any replies.[/QUOTE]

Punto de Encuentro is owned by the same guy who owns Yakuza. He has a bunch of girls on call who also work facebook. He keeps pictures of them his phone he will whatsapp to you. He also has a couple of rooms at the bar. He's a good guy. Don't let the touts put you off, the bar is pretty chill.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2379758]I was there one time. Only two chicas there, both maybe 5's. Beers were cheap for me (I think 5 mil), but expensive for the chica (I think 20 mil). I bought a beer for one of the chicas. She chatted for a few minutes, then took her beer and went to another part of the bar and talked with the other chica. I won't go back, but others may have a better experience. One good point is that it is completely open to the sidewalk, so you can check out who's there without going in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2379716]On the ground report from Medellin.

(please excuse my typos, I am typing this on my crappy old iPhone).

This city never ceases to amaze me. I've been here several times since my first time in summer of 2017 and I am just amazed each time at what I see in terms of beautiful chicas. Whether walking around, Mercado del Rio, riding the metro, or just hanging out in the one of their huge malls, you will see eye candy nearly every second of your time here.

This trip, my main sources for action are Tinder and the many Facebook chicas I've chatted with and will attempt to make "citas" with while here. Yes, I can speak Spanish.

My flight touched down early Tuesday morning at JMC Airport at 1:30 am. My driver (who has driven me around in my previous trips here) was waiting and he got me to my Laureles Airbnb rental in no time. I was checked in and unpacked my stuff in no time. The San Peter apartments in Laureles are great (just off of La 70 at Calle 41 a). They are in a good location, around a lot of restaurants, nice Exito grocery store nearby and some discotecas. They are very chica friendly. When a chica comes and you do not go down to meet them, the front desk calls you to confirm.[/QUOTE]I have been to punto, the bar off la70. And I would advise against staying there and drinking. The owner Danny is known for ripping gringos off, encouraging his bartenders to charge more for gringos. Amazing what a drink and few lines with the bartenders and what they share. It's 25 mil to take the girls out the bar and most are not putas so you will end up wasting money. Just negotiate the terms beforehand and don't stay in the bar too long. Or get the girls number so you don't have to pay the 25 mil.

I'm a newbie to Medellin with low intermediate Spanish & will be making my way from the 6th of Nov to the 20th, flight is already booked but I'm still unsure about whether to book a hotel in El Centro or Laureles. Anybody from this site going to be there during those dates?

If you're a newbie, I suggest Laureles instead of El Centro. San Peter airbnb is better than hotel IMHO.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2379894]I'm a newbie to Medellin with low intermediate Spanish & will be making my way from the 6th of Nov to the 20th, flight is already booked but I'm still unsure about whether to book a hotel in El Centro or Laureles. Anybody from this site going to be there during those dates?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379792]All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please 😁?[/QUOTE]Would also like some input here as I just landed today. So many FB chicas wanting to come over on the first day. None mention money but when I push them for it, I am receiving high quotes such as 300,000. Which is still a deal by US standards but I am not about to start raising prices here!

Hi all,

Newbie here. I'm going to Medellin for the first time over the Christmas break and thinking about staying at the Mansion. Their prices are a bit higher than hotels and apartments. Can anyone tell me how the Mansion is? I've been to the Del Rey and Sportsman Lodge in San Jose, CR many times. Is it anything like that and do they charge you a chica fee? Thanks in advance and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2379908]Would also like some input here as I just landed today. So many FB chicas wanting to come over on the first day. None mention money but when I push them for it, I am receiving high quotes such as 300,000. Which is still a deal by US standards but I am not about to start raising prices here![/QUOTE]Do not let them quote you a price. Instead once you firm up availability and what you want, tell them you are prepared to pay X and let the Chica think about the dinero she is about to reject for a while. Usually that is met with a request for taxi or some such thing and then you can go from there. None of them tend to be rushed and if they are, then its a one and done for me.

Most let you go atleast 2 leches, a few of them will initiate the 2nd one. Usually by that time I am done and ready to move on as well. I don't do TLN for many reasons. If I am really into that chica I might just have her come over again the next day. Once they've seen the dinero they want more. I think 150 k is fair in the FB realm, some would argue even lower. What I will not compromise is on service. If that sucks, its a never again and an instant delete from FB. Too many chicas there to be messing with disinterested ones.

Once you let them call a price, they will shoot for the stars and it gets awkward and messy. Atleast that's been my experience. Most know its crazy but they have all had atleast a few gringos pay that and more. So doesn't hurt to ask right. Most have also put out for a lot less, and usually so.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2379908]Would also like some input here as I just landed today. So many FB chicas wanting to come over on the first day. ...![/QUOTE]What FB search terms do you use to find these girls?

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2379908]Would also like some input here as I just landed today. So many FB chicas wanting to come over on the first day. None mention money but when I push them for it, I am receiving high quotes such as 300,000. Which is still a deal by US standards but I am not about to start raising prices here![/QUOTE]I saw this advice written here below on a thread here a while ago and used it since then and works the majority of the time and when it doesn't #Next.

"I am not sure why guys can't follow this one simple rule. Offer the price you think is fair and move on if she says no.

You will get a yes far more often than you think at those price levels. 150 k pretty much always gets it done in MDE.

Instead guys get into all sorts of twists and mess up.

Also always negotiate the things you want ahead of the price, it's either a yes or no after that.

Can confirm. I started asking FB MDE ladies what their price is. Got various responses of 150,200 or 250 plus taxi.

Then instead of asking I just started offering 150 plus taxi to every girl (thanks to some post here on ISG). Most of them, even some really hot ones agreed without any fuss. Didn't even bother with girls who insisted 200.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2379908]Would also like some input here as I just landed today. So many FB chicas wanting to come over on the first day. None mention money but when I push them for it, I am receiving high quotes such as 300,000. Which is still a deal by US standards but I am not about to start raising prices here![/QUOTE]Well if you ask them their price, they're going to throw out something high.

I'm not a huge Facebook fan because I like to meet chicas first and see if there is chemistry before I commit to boning them. But if Facebook was my primary means to meeting women, I would tell them what I would pay, not ask them for a price.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2379924]What FB search terms do you use to find these girls?[/QUOTE]John, read the forum posts. Tons of info. And if all else fails, find Karina Hernandez in Medellin. She is the godmother of prepago. Haha.

I will be staying in Medellin for two weeks. I found a good apartment in Laureles. A three bedroom with a terrace. Really nice. However it has no security. I'm not a newbie. I be been many times but this is the first without security in Medellin. Will I be OK or should I rebook somewhere else.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379865]I wish this was the case. I'm 34 year old above average looking Chino, no fat, no wrinkle, clean, well dress. I don't speak Spanish so it's kinda obvious gringo. Is that why?[/QUOTE]Bro, we are literally about the exact same boat tho I am 31, yo soy chino tambien. Pero me veo muy joven que mi cara no envejecer. I say that shit to them and usually get a good reaction.

I think its about the approach with these hoes on FB and how you pitch to them your intentions and how much money you ready to give up as other members on the board are suggesting. I have been negotiating for 100 Mil / hour of BBJ + regular poom poom and 150-175 Mil / Hour for that + the culito. Which I mean is pretty fucking normal for Colombian standards as I read Catador-Colombian reviews and those Paisa brothas pay around that but most of them for some reason don't avidly chase after the culito to get any real reviews on that end (pun intended). Catador reviews mainly online prepagos and they range from 80 Mil to 200 Mil per hour, which seems to be the industry standards there, but probably inflated in recent years due to the influx of, well, us. I also make it know to these FB-hoes that I know Photoprepagos / ETC exist whenever they throw me those prices en de Dollares, or I just straight up dubb they ass and move on. There are literally a thousand+ FB hoes serving the greater Medellin area. Some of ya'll be asking for keywords to search for, just go on FB and search "Medellin" and go under the People tab on the search options and look for skin. And just message them. Yes, you run into risk on accidentally assuming a regular girl to be a hoe but not like they can come to your house to murder you for it, just say oops / sorry and move on. There are also sooo many "example hoes" posted by members here, and they all still operational. Its like there is a mansion of links on these boards.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2379880]Poblado and cheap purchase are like oil and water. I have no advice for you there.

You can find cheap musical instruments in the pawn shops calle 54 west of Parque Bolivar and Palace. At the western end of calle 54 you will run into the street vendors lined up north of Plaza Botero all the way to the Prado metro station. It's probably best to just stick to the pawn shops. Make your purchase by 4 pm and you will have a couple of hours to grab a taxi or uber to get back to El Poblado before dark. If you want to check out girls or casas you should start around noon to leave time for your shopping.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your your Knowledge!

I've been lurking on ISG for 5 years. Used it everywhere from Montreal, Tijuana, Vienna, Frankfurt, Pattaya and Angeles. So first, a word of gratitude. Thanks.

I'm having a hard time getting a handle on Medellin. So after El Moreno's excellent post, I decided to purchase a subscription yesterday to feed off the knowledge of the many vets here. Especially World Traveller's fantastically clutch map / guide.

3 Quick questions (after having RTFT and taken notes on over 90 pages when my boss wasn't watching me):

1.) Hotel: Finally settled on San Peter after reading dozens of conflicting / changing reports. But earlier today someone called it an airbnb rather than a hotel. So I want to make sure I'm booking the correct one. Is the San Peter that is girl-friendly on calle 41 A 70-48? (Bonus if anyone can tell me a better location that is a bit nicer that is girl friendly and doesn't charge more than $15 USD for a guest. For instance, OBO?

2.) Mansion? Since my Spanish is mal (see what I did there?) and this is my first time, I was thinking about staying at the Mansion for the first few days. But it sounds like the quality is meh. Can someone who has recently been tell me if there are 8's to be found?

3.) Finding a nine/ ten: I know for many service trumps looks, but for me, looks trumps service, and therefore I'm willing to pay (but not an absurd gringo fee). Can anyone recommend a provider / FB page / agency / etc?

I'll definitely reciprocate and would definitely buy a few rounds for anyone who is helpful via PM or here. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]For instance, OBO?[/QUOTE]It is not girl friendly. There is a sign in lobby says that.

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]
3.) Finding a nine/ ten: I know for many service trumps looks, but for me, looks trumps service, and therefore I'm willing to pay (but not an absurd gringo fee). Can anyone recommend a provider / FB page / agency / etc?[/QUOTE]

Since it is your first time, you can try La Isla. It will give you a rough idea. As time goes on, it will become harder to find 9 or above once you are used to the scene.

I would definitely recommend since its your first time to MDE to stay at the Mansion initially to get your bearings and more importantly to network with other mongers and chicas. There is no guarantee on girls since they are all free lancers and they come as they please. One day could be a gold mine, the next a real dump. There is no real place where you will find 9-10's at all. Isla, face dos has a better consistency on better looking girls, but they tend to be very straight to business and clock watchers, just my 2 cents.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]I've been lurking on ISG for 5 years. Used it everywhere from Montreal, Tijuana, Vienna, Frankfurt, Pattaya and Angeles. So first, a word of gratitude. Thanks.

I'm having a hard time getting a handle on Medellin. So after El Moreno's excellent post, I decided to purchase a subscription yesterday to feed off the knowledge of the many vets here. Especially World Traveller's fantastically clutch map / guide.

3 Quick questions (after having RTFT and taken notes on over 90 pages when my boss wasn't watching me):

1.) Hotel: Finally settled on San Peter after reading dozens of conflicting / changing reports. But earlier today someone called it an airbnb rather than a hotel. So I want to make sure I'm booking the correct one. Is the San Peter that is girl-friendly on calle 41 A 70-48? (Bonus if anyone can tell me a better location that is a bit nicer that is girl friendly and doesn't charge more than $15 USD for a guest. For instance, OBO?

2.) Mansion? Since my Spanish is mal (see what I did there?) and this is my first time, I was thinking about staying at the Mansion for the first few days. But it sounds like the quality is meh. Can someone who has recently been tell me if there are 8's to be found?

3.) Finding a nine/ ten: I know for many service trumps looks, but for me, looks trumps service, and therefore I'm willing to pay (but not an absurd gringo fee). Can anyone recommend a provider / FB page / agency / etc?

I'll definitely reciprocate and would definitely buy a few rounds for anyone who is helpful via PM or here. Thank you![/QUOTE]

I have stayed at San Peter multiple times. It is an apartment complex and not a hotel. The address you listed is correct. There are regular people living in it in addition to many of the apartments listed on Airbnb when the owners are away. Normally, the Airbnb listing won't say San Peter, so you will have to see in map view to figure out which ones are in San Peter. San Peter doesn't charge guest fees, they do check guest ID. There is no limit on the guests.

If you stay at another place that is not guest friendly, or charge guest fees, better option would be to take your guest to a short term love hotel. Their prices are 15 to 40 USD for a few hours. Google love motel Medellin.

I have not stayed in Mansion, now called M1 and M2. I friends who stayed. It may be helpful for first timer with no Spanish to stay there. The chicas are freelancers, so availability may vary.

Finding 9 or 10 is luck and your standards. Someone else's 9 may not be your 9. You just have to look and try to find them. You could go Fase Dos, or La Isla or the other strip clubs to find your 9's. Those will be expensive compared to FB chicas, but once you get their numbers, you can make your deal without the club involved and taking a cut. There is no ordering off the menu, you have to do some selection. For some, the thrill of the chase is part of the fun.

Have a great trip, have fun and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]I've been lurking on ISG for 5 years. Used it everywhere from Montreal, Tijuana, Vienna, Frankfurt, Pattaya and Angeles. So first, a word of gratitude. Thanks.

I'm having a hard time getting a handle on Medellin. So after El Moreno's excellent post, I decided to purchase a subscription yesterday to feed off the knowledge of the many vets here. Especially World Traveller's fantastically clutch map / guide.

3 Quick questions (after having RTFT and taken notes on over 90 pages when my boss wasn't watching me):

1.) Hotel: Finally settled on San Peter after reading dozens of conflicting / changing reports. But earlier today someone called it an airbnb rather than a hotel. So I want to make sure I'm booking the correct one. Is the San Peter that is girl-friendly on calle 41 A 70-48? (Bonus if anyone can tell me a better location that is a bit nicer that is girl friendly and doesn't charge more than $15 USD for a guest. For instance, OBO?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2379886]Punto de Encuentro is owned by the same guy who owns Yakuza. He has a bunch of girls on call who also work facebook. He keeps pictures of them his phone he will whatsapp to you. He also has a couple of rooms at the bar. He's a good guy. Don't let the touts put you off, the bar is pretty chill.[/QUOTE]I don't know what bar you are talking about but Punto doesn't have any rooms. Is the owner the fat guy who wears a hat and long sleeve shirts with braces? He told me he was the owner. Many of the guys at San peter told me they stopped going their because he ripped them off previously. They said if you buy the girls a drink it is watered down and they charge you gringo prices.

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]... 1.) Hotel: Finally settled on San Peter after reading dozens of conflicting / changing reports. But earlier today someone called it an airbnb rather than a hotel. So I want to make sure I'm booking the correct one. Is the San Peter that is girl-friendly on calle 41 A 70-48? (Bonus if anyone can tell me a better location that is a bit nicer that is girl friendly and doesn't charge more than $15 USD for a guest. For instance, OBO?

3.) Finding a nine/ ten: I know for many service trumps looks, but for me, looks trumps service, and therefore I'm willing to pay (but not an absurd gringo fee). Can anyone recommend a provider / FB page / agency / etc?[/QUOTE]You have the correct San Peter, and it is definitely not a hotel. It is an apartment building with all apartments privately owned, by many people. It has been years since I stayed there, so I don't know the rental policies now. I think you must have a reservation with an owner before you arrive. The apartment I rented was very nice, but it appears from the photos that most of the apartments have been reconfigured inside.

During my first few trips, I found many 9's. Now, not so many. The ladies are just as pretty as in the beginning, but my bar has been raised because there are so many beautiful ladies. I have never been to Europe, so I can't make any comparisons, but Latinas are higher on my bar than Orientals.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2380023]I will be staying in Medellin for two weeks. I found a good apartment in Laureles. A three bedroom with a terrace. Really nice. However it has no security. I'm not a newbie. I be been many times but this is the first without security in Medellin. Will I be OK or should I rebook somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in about 25 to 30 different apartments over the last nine years, only five had security. I haven't had any problems. I never have more than one lady in the apartment at the same time, unless I know the ladies real well.

He is the owner. Their rooms are in the building next door. Never buy lady drinks, I didn't think I needed to say that but I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2380205]I don't know what bar you are talking about but Punto doesn't have any rooms. Is the owner the fat guy who wears a hat and long sleeve shirts with braces? He told me he was the owner. Many of the guys at San peter told me they stopped going their because he ripped them off previously. They said if you buy the girls a drink it is watered down and they charge you gringo prices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2380138]I would definitely recommend since its your first time to MDE to stay at the Mansion initially to get your bearings and more importantly to network with other mongers and chicas. There is no guarantee on girls since they are all free lancers and they come as they please. One day could be a gold mine, the next a real dump. There is no real place where you will find 9-10's at all. Isla, face dos has a better consistency on better looking girls, but they tend to be very straight to business and clock watchers, just my 2 cents.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I'm going to Medellin in December and thinking about staying at the Mansion. I took a look at their rooms and the prices are a lot higher than other places, and the rooms don't look as nice. I was wondering if they charge a chica fee every time you bring a girl to your room.

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]
3.) Finding a nine/ ten: I know for many service trumps looks, but for me, looks trumps service, and therefore I'm willing to pay (but not an absurd gringo fee). Can anyone recommend a provider / FB page / agency / etc?

I'll definitely reciprocate and would definitely buy a few rounds for anyone who is helpful via PM or here. Thank you![/QUOTE]Check Your Inbox I sent you an appetizing menu. And so I know if I'm on the right track: how do these two fit into your rating scale?

[QUOTE=Leonine1234;2380096]1.) Hotel: Finally settled on San Peter after reading dozens of conflicting / changing reports. But earlier today someone called it an airbnb rather than a hotel. So I want to make sure I'm booking the correct one. Is the San Peter that is girl-friendly on calle 41 A 70-48? (Bonus if anyone can tell me a better location that is a bit nicer that is girl friendly and doesn't charge more than $15 USD for a guest. For instance, OBO? [/QUOTE]San Peter's exact address is Calle 41 a #70-42. It is basically a few steps from Carrera 70 (La Setenta as it is called by the locals).

The good thing is you can put "San Peter Apartments" in any GPS based app (Google Maps, Uber, Rappi, etc) and it pops up immediately.

Like another ISG'er stated, the girl must have an ID (Cedula in Spanish) to get in. The front desk woman will record her information and she's good to go up to your pad for the chilling, sucking and / or pounding. If you do not go down to meet the chica the front desk will call your room to confirm she's good to come up.

I love this place and have stayed here many times.

I was heartbroken to see the little restaurant JM+ Grill closed. That is where I ate breakfast, lunch and dinner (all 3 on some days when I did not feel like exploring).

Stay tuned for my next chica report.

(To those who DM'ed me, I will get to you if I can find a browser app that does not contort the DM page. Otherwise, I will wait until I get to a desktop before I answer you).

Please excuse the typos. I am typing this on a crappy old iPhone.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2380250]Hi,

I'm going to Medellin in December and thinking about staying at the Mansion. I took a look at their rooms and the prices are a lot higher than other places, and the rooms don't look as nice. I was wondering if they charge a chica fee every time you bring a girl to your room.[/QUOTE]There was a report that they charged a fee if you brought in an outside girl for an overnight stay. However, there's no charge for taking girls to your room for girls on-site and no charge for short time visits by any outside talent.

I'm wishy-washy on whether or not staying at the Mansion is a good idea. For a first time visitors, especially one with minimal foreign mongering experience, it's a good resource. You'll meet many experienced mongers, you'll gain confidence and it couldn't be much easier: Get up, eat breakfast, relax for awhile. Go to lunch with another monger, drop by the pool, grab a girl, take her to your room. Then relax some more, go get some dinner, go to the bar, grab a girl, go to your room. Repeat as necessary.

On the other hand, many of the guys you meet there have been staying at the Mansion for 10 years. Every visit they follow the same routine. In all the time they are still stuck with a Spanish vocabulary of 50 words. It's easy to get into that same habit.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2380225]He is the owner. Their rooms are in the building next door. Never buy lady drinks, I didn't think I needed to say that but I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say "never buy lady drinks. " However, if you're buying lady drinks, wherever in the world you are, they're going to be watered down and overpriced. Buying lady drinks doesn't earn you any points. The bar makes money, the girl makes money and they'll happily continue the arrangement as long as you're buying.

If your goal is to sit and chat with a girl, buying a few lady drinks might be the way to go. If you're looking for something more, skip the drinks and get to the point.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2380023]I will be staying in Medellin for two weeks. I found a good apartment in Laureles. A three bedroom with a terrace. Really nice. However it has no security. I'm not a newbie. I be been many times but this is the first without security in Medellin. Will I be OK or should I rebook somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Myself I'm happy with no security, but peace of mind is always a factor. If this is on your mind you should make another booking.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379792]All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please 😁?[/QUOTE]How I negotiate? I don't. If I already have experience with the girl, there's no issue. She knows what I'll pay and knows what I expect. For new girls I tell them what I usually pay. If they insist on a higher price, I tell them I'll check back with them another day. Occasionally I'll accept, but add something of my own, such as telling her she'll have to stay for 3 hours.

If you're happy with what you're paying, don't worry about it. So what if someone else is paying less? There are plenty of guys paying a lot more than you are. There are guys spending $1000-$2000 a day to take these same girls all over the world, buying them ridiculously expensive gifts and getting the same amount of pussy as you're getting on $100 a day. About once a month I see some Medellin working girl announcing her engagement, or marriage, to some gringo. Boggles my mind.

Something else to be aware of:

Prices be quoted by these girls when you're 4,000 miles and 4 weeks away have no relation to the price she'll want when you're in Medellin. The girls are smarter than most think they are. They'll happily say yes to anything, when they know you're not buying today. The price you'll pay when the time comes may be higher, or lower. The services you receive may be more or less than you bargained for.

Trying to nail down anything specific before you're in town is a waste of time. Introduce yourself. Chat a bit. Tell her when you will be in town and that you want to see her. Then forget about her until 2 days before you arrive. Remind her when you arrive and let her know you'll be in touch. When you're ass (and cash) is in Medellin is the time to deal with specifics.

And may I ask what you usually pay? I always go for $150 mil rate, girls usually just stay for 1 shot and leave soon afterward. Some will want $200, I thought that was normal rate.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2380526]How I negotiate? I don't. If I already have experience with the girl, there's no issue. She knows what I'll pay and knows what I expect. For new girls I tell them what I usually pay. If they insist on a higher price, I tell them I'll check back with them another day. Occasionally I'll accept, but add something of my own, such as telling her she'll have to stay for 3 hours.

If you're happy with what you're paying, don't worry about it. So what if someone else is paying less? There are plenty of guys paying a lot more than you are. There are guys spending $1000-$2000 a day to take these same girls all over the world, buying them ridiculously expensive gifts and getting the same amount of pussy as you're getting on $100 a day. About once a month I see some Medellin working girl announcing her engagement, or marriage, to some gringo. Boggles my mind.

Something else to be aware of:

Prices be quoted by these girls when you're 4,000 miles and 4 weeks away have no relation to the price she'll want when you're in Medellin. The girls are smarter than most think they are. They'll happily say yes to anything, when they know you're not buying today. The price you'll pay when the time comes may be higher, or lower. The services you receive may be more or less than you bargained for.

Trying to nail down anything specific before you're in town is a waste of time. Introduce yourself. Chat a bit. Tell her when you will be in town and that you want to see her. Then forget about her until 2 days before you arrive. Remind her when you arrive and let her know you'll be in touch. When you're ass (and cash) is in Medellin is the time to deal with specifics.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2380574]And may I ask what you usually pay? I always go for $150 mil rate, girls usually just stay for 1 shot and leave soon afterward. Some will want $200, I thought that was normal rate.[/QUOTE]Depends on where the get the girl from. If its Parque Lleras its normally like 80 mil -150 mil but like 150 mil the girl normally stays all night with me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2380526]How I negotiate? I don't. If I already have experience with the girl, there's no issue. She knows what I'll pay and knows what I expect. For new girls I tell them what I usually pay. If they insist on a higher price, I tell them I'll check back with them another day. Occasionally I'll accept, but add something of my own, such as telling her she'll have to stay for 3 hours.

If you're happy with what you're paying, don't worry about it. So what if someone else is paying less? There are plenty of guys paying a lot more than you are. There are guys spending $1000-$2000 a day to take these same girls all over the world, buying them ridiculously expensive gifts and getting the same amount of pussy as you're getting on $100 a day. About once a month I see some Medellin working girl announcing her engagement, or marriage, to some gringo. Boggles my mind.

Something else to be aware of:

Prices be quoted by these girls when you're 4,000 miles and 4 weeks away have no relation to the price she'll want when you're in Medellin. The girls are smarter than most think they are. They'll happily say yes to anything, when they know you're not buying today. The price you'll pay when the time comes may be higher, or lower. The services you receive may be more or less than you bargained for..[/QUOTE]I simple talk with them normal and then when your ready to leave and you ask how much they usually say "150 mil" then you just counter with your price and act like your going to the hotel. They for me 100% always cave in.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379792]All I can say is I've been paying gringo prices. How do you guys negociate? By the hours? #leche? Tips for negociate please 😁?[/QUOTE]What have you been paying and what do your chicks look like?

Very rare that I see a girl selling her ass on tinder for 80 that I would pay to have sex with.

The whole idea of paying for sex is to get something that is better than what you can get for free.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2380574]And may I ask what you usually pay? I always go for $150 mil rate, girls usually just stay for 1 shot and leave soon afterward. Some will want $200, I thought that was normal rate.[/QUOTE]That's usually what I pay. I just don't do time limits. If the girl mentions an hour, I pass. In my opinion, those are the ones who will be pushing to get done. Most will happily stay 2 or more hours if they're having a good time.

I appreciated the tips. I thought I have over pay but it seems to be about right. I usually pick the very hot one. Does any FB girls try to charge more like 300 mil, or 300 us dollar like those Gusto girls?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2380745]That's usually what I pay. I just don't do time limits. If the girl mentions an hour, I pass. In my opinion, those are the ones who will be pushing to get done. Most will happily stay 2 or more hours if they're having a good time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2380875]I appreciated the tips. I thought I have over pay but it seems to be about right. I usually pick the very hot one. Does any FB girls try to charge more like 300 mil, or 300 us dollar like those Gusto girls?[/QUOTE]I had a few FB girls asking for 300+ mil, I just tell them to that I always pay 150 and this is not my first time in Medellin, almost all of them will accept 200 + taxi. If you really like a girl, you can tell her that you will pay her 200, but if the service is good you will give her a sizable tip. To be honest, the difference between 200 and 300 mil is only 28 dollars, some of the girls I fucked are so hot, back in the states, I would pay 50 dollars just to carry her bag.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2380875]I appreciated the tips. I thought I have over pay but it seems to be about right. I usually pick the very hot one. Does any FB girls try to charge more like 300 mil, or 300 us dollar like those Gusto girls?[/QUOTE]This is my personal opinion. Gusto girls normally will ask for 200 to 250 dollars, most of them will come down to 150-200 dollars. I think it is well worth it. With a Gusto girl, I can dance and play with her all night in the club, in my case, typically from 12 am to 4 am (I some times take them to Paradise after Gusto closes to party a bit more). I then take her home to fuck her brain out for a few hours, next day I typically follow up with some morning sex. All these for 200 dollars is a steal, doesn't matter how you look at it. If I stay at home and fuck FB girls all night, I would have gone through at least 4 of them at an average 200 mil a pop, which adds up to more than 200 dollars. For me, it is a lot of more fun to dance, drink and play with a girl in a club all night and then fuck her.

Kathy 150 K.

I saw my old reliable Kathy. She left the game to try and get a normal job and I thogght she was done for. But she appeared again. I didn't let her know it was me before I arrived but when she saw me she was plesently surprised. We have a long histoty togerher and I prob fucked her 20-30 times over the course of a couple years. We kissed etc and the sex was good, she finally did oral naturale whcih for years was always a pain to get her to do. But, she is sort of over this life, I can tell. She wants out. It is a shame cause she isn't a moron. She went to school, tried to work normal but the economics of Colombia don't make sense. She has a kid to take care of etc. But I could tell, this was the last time I will see her. It was sort of like a break up or when you met an ex and fuck for the last time. I'm done from her and so is she. We parted ways.

Nicole 200 K with oral naturel why facial.

I been wanting to see this girl for a while. I finally did. Well her face. I knew she was old but at 33 she looks more like 41. It was a bit beat with the bags in her eyes. She was VERY intense though. The BJ was a bit too hard and when we fucked missionary, she had to use this little inflatable donut to sit on because she just had fat implanted into her ass! WTF why work if you are still recovering?? Anyway. I won't repeat but was glad to get with her. She was 5 1 with HUGE bolton tits and weighted 100 lbs. Looked almost like shay evans pornstar but much muhc much older.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2380875]I appreciated the tips. I thought I have over pay but it seems to be about right. I usually pick the very hot one. Does any FB girls try to charge more like 300 mil, or 300 us dollar like those Gusto girls?[/QUOTE]I've had a few come out with 300 k. I think there was one who asked for $100. I tell them all the same. This is what I pay and they agree.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2380886]This is my personal opinion. Gusto girls normally will ask for 200 to 250 dollars, most of them will come down to 150-200 dollars. I think it is well worth it. With a Gusto girl, I can dance and play with her all night in the club, in my case, typically from 12 am to 4 am (I some times take them to Paradise after Gusto closes to party a bit more). I then take her home to fuck her brain out for a few hours, next day I typically follow up with some morning sex. All these for 200 dollars is a steal, doesn't matter how you look at it. If I stay at home and fuck FB girls all night, I would have gone through at least 4 of them at an average 200 mil a pop, which adds up to more than 200 dollars. For me, it is a lot of more fun to dance, drink and play with a girl in a club all night and then fuck her.[/QUOTE]You know there's another way around that. Hit up a Facebook girl. Tell her you want to take her out drinking and dancing. Many will still go for 200 k, drink, eat, dance and spend the whole night with you. For $200 she'll be happy to bring along a friend to share you with. There's plenty of clubs. No sense in limiting yourself to Gusto.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2380886]. I then take her home to fuck her brain out for a few hours, next day I typically follow up with some morning sex. All these for 200 dollars is a steal, doesn't matter how you look at it. If I stay at home and fuck FB girls all night, I would have gone through at least 4 of them at an average 200 mil a pop, which adds up to more than 200 dollars. For me, it is a lot of more fun to dance, drink and play with a girl in a club all night and then fuck her.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to argue with you, I'm on the team that says do what makes you happy. But I will point out that a few Facebook chicas have spent a few hours, gone to lunch, dinner etc and a couple rounds of sex, after only asking for 200 k, but I kick in some propina when they do. 200 usd just isn't in my budget - it's like 700k pesos if a guy pays 400 for TLN - your paying a premium for the sexy beautiful chica and all the time and that you get with it we pay our price firfor an average to cute looking. but Gusto chicas are hot and I respect that. I actually got a little pissed last time I went there, I had gone in kind of early like 9:30 and the place was dead, I asked if I could get back in with my arm bracelet and they said yes, when I got back there was a line, the said I still had to wait in the line even with the bracelet. That didn't make sense to me. So I left. Instead of paying 30 some mil for a Heineken, I went down the road and and paid 5 at the store and found a cute little chica for 200 k. I have her WhatsApp if anybody wants it- PM.

I thought I was over paying but it seems I paid about the right price. I usually like hot girls so it is going to cost a little more. I appreciated all the tips from everyone though. It looks like I owe a few you guys a beer or 2.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2380882]I had a few FB girls asking for 300+ mil, I just tell them to that I always pay 150 and this is not my first time in Medellin, almost all of them will accept 200 + taxi. If you really like a girl, you can tell her that you will pay her 200, but if the service is good you will give her a sizable tip. To be honest, the difference between 200 and 300 mil is only 28 dollars, some of the girls I fucked are so hot, back in the states, I would pay 50 dollars just to carry her bag.[/QUOTE]

Anyone use Tinder in Medellin? Is it useful? Is the basic version OK? Or do we need to get the paid version? Thanks.

I do not want any newbies to think that I am an expert on FB chicas. I am only reporting my one trip to Medellin. There are many guys here who have WAY more experience than I do. I did do a tremendous amount of FB research to find FB prepago profiles, so I am going to drop some in this report as well as instructions as I see them. Other members may argue against what I say and may have valid points because I am still a newbie to Medellin. This trip and how I went about it worked fairly well for me.

Since I made my last actual report on my Medellin experiences with Facebook Chicas I have had more good experiences but I have also had a couple of bad experiences. I had more than one chica show up without a cedula. I was staying at Energy Living in this trip and they are very strict about it being an actual Cedula. This one chica had a Passport but no Cedula. I paid for her taxi to and from home anyway because I also did not understand why they did not accept her passport. The second bad experience was a chica I wanted to repeat with. Cailla - she as good but she did not stay more than two hours and I asked her to come earlier the next day and I would pay her a little more for more time. The next day she showed up and had her mother's cedula? Of course they said no she could not come in- she said she accidentally grabbed the wrong one so I offered to get an Uber driver I had the number for and have home take her back home to get her's. She said no she had to go to the Hospital and sit with her grandmother? Then later I messaged her and she said she was not the metro making some kind of delivery and could not come back today? Inconsistent stories all the way around. So I just stopped answering her messages the rest of my trip.

My third bad experience was with a chica I met on Facebook but does not actually use Facebook as her platform for working. Very attractive and classy looking woman. I don't remember how I found her profile. And I am not sure if she realized when I first messaged her that I was propositioning her professionally instead of just personally. Its all a little murky. When I messaged her while in Medellin, I asked her if she wanted to have dinner and "spend some time together" - when I asked her "cuantos" she asked "Cuantos for what? I said dinner, - BBBJ and sex. There was a pause before she said "I didn't realize you knew I was an escort" - anyway I negotiated 250 k for joining me for dinner (I had seen this restaurant I wanted to try and not go to alone) BBBJ and sex. So the story goes bad when she shows up and she is already drunk. She is babbling. I do not want to sound insensitive, I wasn't insensitive but she was drunk and babbling more than she was talking about her sister being gravely ill, about other problems she had etc. The rest of the time I am dealing with a drunk woman. She tried to light up a pipe in my apartment and I said NO because I do not want to lose my deposit if they smell it. She argued. I took the pipe away and told her she could have it back when she started acting sane. I had some tequila in the apartment and she was carrying it around and drinking on it like it was cold water on a hot day. So I decided that I would was just going to bang her and get her out of the apartment. She reneged on the BBBJ. I wasn't going to argue with a drunk chica who I just had to take a pipe away from, So I banged her for a little while in a way like I just wanted to get it over with. I wanted to bang her because she was pretty but I wanted it over because I wanted her gone. Yes really, that is the kind of sex addict I am LOL. After sex and about an hour later and she does not want to leave. She even said "if I leave than I have to think about all my problems" I did feel for a a little but her drunken disposition probably was not her best. So I banged her again. Cuddled her to get her to be quiet, then finally I gathered her stuff myself and took her by the hand. Asked security to call a cab and put her in it. Once she was in the taxi I told her taxi is on you because you reneged. No I would not give her Facebook to anyone else.

I am going to give a shout out to my Facebook "honorable mentions" I have sent this same info in PMs so it may look familiar if you messaged me for info.

This is Karina Hernandez, I think that she is smoking hot, she had me seduced with a video on her page where she is on her knees kind of dancing and gyrating - she was my first cita- she is not a hero in bed, she does the basics, but I am a fat old man and she lets me lay on top of her and try to get my thing on LOL. She is gorgeous in IMHO, but what is more she has more prepago (prostitute) friends than any other profile outside of some gringo profiles I have seen but can't seem to find anymore.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL]

This next girl has many profiles on Facebook, she is a hero in the bed and not hard to look at. Super sweet once she gets to know you. She makes friends with her other profiles so this is just your link to looking at all her prepago friends and her other profiles to see other prepago friends, I'm told she is internet famous here in Medellin because of the "Fuck You" tatoo on her ass. I take better care of her when she visits me. She rides a bus for an hour from some hick town outside Medellin before catching a 20 min taxi, so I pay her a little extra. Like 75 k pesos to cover her transportation. I have her over in mid day so she doesn't have to ride that bus in the dark. I order her lunch through Rappi. If you take care of her she'll take care of you. GFE and very sweet.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/la.yeaa[/URL]

This chica is not a hero in the bed but she is adequate and has the nicest ass. But would not allow me to put anything in it (sad face emoji)....

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/nicol.puerta.92[/URL]

So basic instructions: In the profiles I have provided look for Gringo friends who have open friends list. Very rare but there are some and its sometimes the mother lode, but not all their chica friends are going to be prepago. I found out the hard way. When looking at a profile to judge is she is Prepago, look for the tell tell photos of her in her panties and bra, one of my favorites was a chica sitting in a chair with a skirt on and one of her legs propped up to show her panies - look for a meme of a chica with cash or dollar signs or look for horns on her head, look for the tell tell purple devil emoji (horny). Maybe its a photo of her with a red filter. Some I was confused about so I messaged them. I would say (using Google translate for spanish "I am coming back to Medellin, can we spend some time together?" Or "do you take dates with Gringos?' - Some answered "dale" which means "I'm ready" some others say- In spanish of course - "message me when you arrive".

Lastly personally think that flirting with these chicas a little is good, but also immediately set boundaries, as soon as I am sure they are prepago, I say "one chica asked me to send her money, I do not send money to chicas I have not met, so I don't talk to her anymore". I tell you this because some guys will say do not flirt because some will ask for money, or think that you will pay them more. I never had this experience but I kept the conversation balanced between flirting and letting them know that I am firm on what I pay and what I am willing to do with them. You just need to keep a balance. Set boundaries in a friendly but firm way.

Once you establish contact and confirm she is prepago, flirt a little, get her phone number for WhatsApp, Colombiana country code is +57 , add it if they don't. Then avoid talking to her until a week before you travel. As other members have said. Its best to have a duplicate profile you can turn off when you leave Colombia. And you need to be careful that every aspect of that profile. Info and photos is different from your real one or Facebook will shut it down.

The following is a list of FB chicas. It is up to you to befriend them and discover if they are prepago. Wink- I have more but these are some of the best looking and I am to lazy and / or too spend the time to go through my friends list and copy and paste each and everyone. This is a very good start for anyone. Follow the instructions to above to find more. I may have over 100 or over 150 but its hard to tell with the duplicate profiles these chicas have and not being sure all all the Colombiana FB friends I have acquired are prepagos. So Happy Hunting. I wish more members would share their lists or part of their lists. I think its good for the mongers and its good for the chicas to get more business.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/la.yeaa[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lisdey.santillana.1[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100036601090074[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/ElianaDurangoG[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Enllym.florez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mariana.vasquezrincon.7[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luisa.vasquez.547[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/nicol.puerta.92[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mateo.cortes.3382118[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.carvajalarroyave.3[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1000[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/sheyla.jmnz562[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100039234288326[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johana.maldonado1989[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/nicol.puerta.92[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luna.cano.39395[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/maryrestrepo08[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/valeria.restrepozapata.14[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luisa.vasquez.547[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mariana.vasquezrincon.7[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100041034121762[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mariana.mirella.73[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009196297277[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/angie.gomez.14224[/URL]

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2381119]Anyone use Tinder in Medellin? Is it useful? Is the basic version OK? Or do we need to get the paid version? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I used tinder a little but honestly did not hook up with anyone on it. Communicated with some pretty prepagos but I was too busy fucking other girls so just did not hook up with any. They are there though. I got the gold version so that A; I could choose my location, so say I was in Cartagena but was going to Medellin the next day. I could start shopping around Medellin on tinder the day before. Be it gives you a "top picks" list once a day or so to see the most liked women.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2381227]I do not want any newbies to think that I am an expert on FB chicas. I am only reporting my one trip to Medellin. There are many guys here who have WAY more experience than I do.[/QUOTE]Man you asked so many damn questions before your trip. Unlike most though, you gave back with some great reporting and I for one would like to thank you. You may be new to facebook or Medellin, but your report shows you are not new to people. The way you handled yourself (or rather handled the women) in every situation was excellent.

So my last night in Medellin I had a session during the afternoon with an FB chica and after she left I thought about getting another FB chica but the hassle possibly waiting around on some chica to get her hair and makeup "organized" and that 40+ minute taxi ride from Bello just didn't seem what I wanted to do my last night. So I ordered an uber to Lleras Park. I walked around for bit looking at chicas and trying to discern from how they looked back at me if they were prepago. Soon enough some started coming up to me- my rule is unless she looks like Selena Gomez, Raquel Welch (born Jo Raquel Tejada) in her prime or at least Camila Cabello I do not like the ones that hit on me. So I blow theme off and keep hunting. I spot a young one that is the Camila Cabello type sitting on a stump and smile at her and she smiles back. But I am still not sure because she is wearing a jeans jacket and jeans skirt and its not a really seductive look and I wonder is she is just being nice. So I wave and walk away a little distance to pull out my phone and try to come up with some spanish words on the translator. When I look back over my shoulder to smile again she has a cute friend who has joined her and she and the friend are both smiling at me. When I look at my phone it has like 6% juice, I have become too dependent on the phone for not only translating but also navigating and I panic a little because. Ashamed to say- I still had not memorized how to say the address of my building in spanish, partially because I am lazy and partially because I am confused in general about the Colombian street address system. Usually I just get in the taxi and either point at the address on the Google maps description or point at a picture of the Building, some cab drivers know when you say Energy. Others when you point at the picture say something that sounds like An Huh Rey because they are pronouncing it in Spanish phonetics. Either way I jumped in a cab to go back to get my portable charger because walking from LLeras to Energy is doable but its up the side of a mountain and I did not sign up for that. By the time I got back the two cute chicas had gone, I walked around and flirted with some others. Always asking a price. Always hearing 200 k. Had a conversation with a Gringo who said he had been living in Medellin for over a year and he said Lleras park is 200 k period. I suppose that YMMV and other people can and do negotiate for less. The aggressive ones that were like 6-7's on the looks scale were not going to get 200 k from me. But I had decided that I was going to marathon myself and the hell with negotiating as long as they agreed to BBBJ. In the span of 8 pm to 12 am I pulled three chicas one at a time out of the park and took them to my apartment and did the basics. 200 k each and I covered the taxi because we shared it. First chica was like 19 maybe a 7 in looks, I thought she was very cute and sweet looking. Petit not much in the breast area but a round ass for a petite girl. Decent BBBJ, Second girl was a biggish girl not huge but huge natural tits and she used them in creative ways as did I, she had sparkling personality and cute face. Also decent BBBJ. The last one was very pretty and I posted her picture in a post where I describe trying to get back into Gusto and them saying I had to stand in line even though I had a bracelet. I was a little buzzed on beer and walked away in a huff because that did not seem right to me at the time.

I think I like that Lleras park could a decent place for looking for chicas if you do not mind paying 200 k or less if you can negotiate that. Though the majority of the chicas I saw were not 200 k worthy in my opinion. Others were. I let some of the better looking ones get away from me thinking they would be around later after I searched for even better but it seemed to me to be very fluid, the chicas would move on and I would not see them again. Accept the less attractive ones. I would say that they are also more literal about the price being or "an hour" also, much less so than an FB chica is. So I think from my limited time there that I would have to be more vigilant and maybe even get whatsapp numbers. Its easier to negotiate through whatsapp anyway if you have less than good spanish skill. You can translate and pick your words more carefully. But maybe I can try this if I go back again.

Sorry for writing this late, but I got lazy once back and there wasn't much to share compare to escapades I've read here, but nonetheless, You all helped getting the lay of land so I'm going to share my maiden experience.

This was my first trip to S. America / I am mostly on European route and been to several countries but wanted to try something different so ended up in MDE. This is indeed a gold mine if you can get over the language barrier and stick to common sense safety rules. Given it was first visit, I planned to do a little of everything so started with mansion, got a hotel in Poblado for a night and then bnb in Provenza.

I explored Casa's, checked out tindr scene as well as indulge into facebook. I did not get to enjoy centro nor I tried PP, CC or SA websites but this is indeed the city, where you can find any color and look you desire (or at least that's how I felt).

I am 0/0 when it comes to Spanish; learned basic words and know how to say rates in spanish (that's Imp), but with G. Translate and some animated gestures, I got things done. I blend in crowd due to mixed race look so I was never gringo labeled (unless I open my word and then they know all).

Overall, I love the city, the crowd, the setting and everything it offers. So much so, that I'll go there next month and spend my Thanksgiving treating myself some fine columbian pussy.
If anyone around and especially to explore centro, then hit me up. 2 is better than one and it's becoming more intriguing every time pollonegro post one more win from plaza. lol

I like to thank all whom I met in mansion, the interesting breakfast convo, thank you to ISG members stayin there who introduced me the new meaning of sportsfucking (that's casa hop on / hop off trip of 30 min fuck without cumm'in. Go figure.), thanks to JJbee62 for spending one afternoon and showing Park Avii and checking the local talent out together, thanks to Judd for keeping me virtual company though we couldn't connect and all other who gave a tip or two and shared the wealth.

Now for trip: I started with Mansion, landed, got a cab and got to hotel on FRI. Moderate # of girls, very safe environment, I threw my stuff in room and was back out in pool, picked one after some google chit chat and started my trip. She was ok. Acted a bit but did all what I asked. 200 K cop which is usual at Mansion. I didn't care to bargain down but regulars are hitting at 150 K as I found out next day. See her pic. She got rose tatto on shoulder. Limited English skills. Later walked around, got some food / dinner for self and then stayed at bar and chatted with punters / puta's. Took some #. One was especially pestering and I caved in during last night and did call her at my loft (that turned out to be dud).

Next day, hit the casa's. Went to couple. First one didn't have any talent, 2nd one (Energy), had about dozen. Picked one named veronica. Slim athletic morena, but language barrier killed the mood. Still had her do the massage and fucked her in few positions before finishing up. Nothing special to remember about.

In the evening, went to gusto's, walked around in Park LLeras, the scene is one of it's kind. Gusto is good for eye candy but since there's enough shared here, I didn't bother roping anyone in. I had a facebook lined up at 11 so went back to hotel and she never showed up. She reached out next day, but didn't bother myself with her for rest of trip. She goes by grisales melanie at fb. Stay away. I called a tindr one (attached face shot) but it was meh. 200 k. And played half dead meat in sheet so kicked her out in 30 min. No taxi tip.

Next day, went back to Mansion (I booked another night there as backup so used that booking to catch some new leads, but it turned out to be dead. As mad max dead. It was Sun night, so went back to Park LL and did usual. Picked one gal, and took her to my bnb (which I got a day in advance so had 2 places, plus I wasn't sure if mansion will let me bring outside chick.). She was cool, name told was Ana and she was veneze. Low profile, not too talkative but smily and cuddly so spend couple of hours with her. Gave her 30 k taxi and called off night.

Next day, I checked out poblado a bit more. Took metro. Met jjbee, spend couple of hours, got some tips and then had my fb (paula) visit me in evening. It was a nice session. Full DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and multiple pops. Non rushed sessions, and enjoy beer in be / w. 200 k plus 25 k for cab.

Final day, I went to new life. Check out line up. There wa good 15 gals and I was too busy checking them out that I didn't' get their names, so had to request a 2nd parade and picked Laura. Dirty blonde college girl (as she claimed) who was skittish but got eased once in room. I spent 50 min and did all of usual stuff. She was not kissing back initially but after a vigorous foreplay, she loosens up and responded back to DFK. Took her number after session and tried hard in evening to visit me but she was too tired to travel after work. Set her up next day before checking out from condo but she got stuck in traffic (or as she claimed) and never got to see her.

Since I was not able to get her to visit, I tried couple of my fb's but none was available and then as a last resort, I tried laura from mansion who was furiously messaging me ever since I exchanged no#. She showed up in 20 min. But it turned out to be one of most boring session. She complained on boob being nibbled hard, no finger in pussy, no DFK and acted very sleepy / not interested. So I flipped and fuck the shit out of her. More so like getting my 200 k worth. Stay away. I couldn't take front face pic, so all I got is back pics.

I went to paragliding on one of day. Nice experience. Flying over valley is truly mesmerizing. This city got the weather from heaven. One of thing which I miss most ever since back.

So here it is. The very first trip. But definitely not the last. Read the forum. Learn the language and enjoy what this city has to offer. Be careful of your surroundings and watch where you going and what time of day. And you'll be fine.

Cheers.

Elvvi.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2381288]Sorry for writing this late, but I got lazy once back and there wasn't much to share compare to escapades I've read here, but nonetheless, You all helped getting the lay of land so I'm going to share my maiden experience.

This was my first trip to S. America / I am mostly on European route and been to several countries but wanted to try something different so ended up in MDE. This is indeed a gold mine if you can get over the language barrier and stick to common sense safety rules. Given it was first visit, I planned to do a little of everything so started with mansion, got a hotel in Poblado for a night and then bnb in Provenza.

I explored Casa's, checked out tindr scene as well as indulge into facebook. I did not get to enjoy centro nor I tried PP, CC or SA websites but this is indeed the city, where you can find any color and look you desire (or at least that's how I felt).

I am 0/0 when it comes to Spanish; learned basic words and know how to say rates in spanish (that's Imp), but with G. Translate and some animated gestures, I got things done. I blend in crowd due to mixed race look so I was never gringo labeled (unless I open my word and then they know all).

Overall, I love the city, the crowd, the setting and everything it offers. So much so, that I'll go there next month and spend my Thanksgiving treating myself some fine columbian pussy.
If anyone around and especially to explore centro, then hit me up. 2 is better than one and it's becoming more intriguing every time pollonegro post one more win from plaza. lol.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time and thanks for the trip report and shout out. Just one problem. I'm pretty sure that wasn't me you met up with. Although I'd have been happy to meet up, hang out and show you around, I haven't been in Medellin since mid July.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2381119]Anyone use Tinder in Medellin? Is it useful? Is the basic version OK? Or do we need to get the paid version? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Its definitely a lot of work filtering through them all. Getting regular responses is also tough. But. I did meet one that liked gringos and asked her to dinner. She cancelled kinda late but then ask to meet up for drinks later that night. She was very adamant that she was not interested in money as she had dated European men before. We hit it off really well (decent Spanish here) and went back to the apartment for an all nighter. Just amazing experience. Hope to see her again before I leave. God bless Medellin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2381326]Glad you had a good time and thanks for the trip report and shout out. Just one problem. I'm pretty sure that wasn't me you met up with. Although I'd have been happy to meet up, hang out and show you around, I haven't been in Medellin since mid July.[/QUOTE]It was before Jul. As I said, I got lazy writing up my time there.

If you around during thanks giving, I will give a ring once there.

Thanks for the great report! I have done a lot of research on my last trip and if you need any recommendations for activities or restaurants, let me know.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2379716]On the ground report from Medellin.

(please excuse my typos, I am typing this on my crappy old iPhone).

This city never ceases to amaze me. I've been here several times since my first time in summer of 2017 and I am just amazed each time at what I see in terms of beautiful chicas. Whether walking around, Mercado del Rio, riding the metro, or just hanging out in the one of their huge malls, you will see eye candy nearly every second of your time here.

This trip, my main sources for action are Tinder and the many Facebook chicas I've chatted with and will attempt to make "citas" with while here. Yes, I can speak Spanish.

My flight touched down early Tuesday morning at JMC Airport at 1:30 am. My driver (who has driven me around in my previous trips here) was waiting and he got me to my Laureles Airbnb rental in no time. I was checked in and unpacked my stuff in no time. The San Peter apartments in Laureles are great (just off of La 70 at Calle 41 a). They are in a good location, around a lot of restaurants, nice Exito grocery store nearby and some discotecas. They are very chica friendly. When a chica comes and you do not go down to meet them, the front desk calls you to confirm. And they call when she leaved asking are things okay and if she good to leave..[/QUOTE]

Never stay in a hotel, many charge visitor fees. San Pedro is the best of both worlds, great security and yet easy going and helpful.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2379896]If you're a newbie, I suggest Laureles instead of El Centro. San Peter airbnb is better than hotel IMHO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2379924]What FB search terms do you use to find these girls?[/QUOTE]You don't, Search for facebook on this forum, you will find a bunch. Friend request them. Once you have a couple that have accepted, see if their friends list is public. Look through for any that look like chicas that work.

Just be careful, if you send out to many FR in a day, FB will block you from doing it for a few days. The first 20 are the hardest, just take it slow and build it up over time. Don't message them until you are closer to the trip date, just add them.

Here are a few to get you started. I haven't seen all of these, but they have open friend lists to get you started.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/juliana.nochety[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/suleymi.caro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dayana.arenasdias[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025105994414[/URL]

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2381508]Never stay in a hotel, many charge visitor fees. San Pedro is the best of both worlds, great security and yet easy going and helpful.[/QUOTE]I googled it and came up with San Pedro del Fuerte. Is that the San Pedro you're talking about? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Uthred;2381558]I googled it and came up with San Pedro del Fuerte. Is that the San Pedro you're talking about? Thanks![/QUOTE]Peter=Pedro.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.

Mas yo tambien te digo, que tu eres Pedro; y sobre esta piedra edificar mi iglesia.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/MedellinHotel/[/URL]

Hey guys, another question I have: When using money exchange outlets (the ones in Poblados and Laureles seem to give a decent rate from my research) what's the max amount they will allow you to exchange? I ask this because in my country you can't exchange more than $300 USD outside of a bank, is there anything like this in place in Colombia or will I be okay exchanging $1000+ USA the to pesos?

P. s Money Max in Laureles is buying at 3320 cop per 1 USD the as per their website, which is a 3% charge & is comparable to withdrawing from the ATM.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2381288]Sorry for writing this late, but I got lazy once back and there wasn't much to share compare to escapades I've read here, but nonetheless, You all helped getting the lay of land so I'm going to share my maiden experience.

This was my first trip to S. America / I am mostly on European route and been to several countries but wanted to try something different so ended up in MDE. This is indeed a gold mine if you can get over the language barrier and stick to common sense safety rules. Given it was first visit, I planned to do a little of everything so started with mansion, got a hotel in Poblado for a night and then bnb in Provenza.

I explored Casa's, checked out tindr scene as well as indulge into facebook. I did not get to enjoy centro nor I tried PP, CC or SA websites but this is indeed the city, where you can find any color and look you desire (or at least that's how I felt).

I am 0/0 when it comes to Spanish; learned basic words and know how to say rates in spanish (that's Imp), but with G. Translate and some animated gestures, I got things done. I blend in crowd due to mixed race look so I was never gringo labeled (unless I open my word and then they know all).

Overall, I love the city, the crowd, the setting and everything it offers. So much so, that I'll go there next month and spend my Thanksgiving treating myself some fine columbian pussy.
If anyone around and especially to explore centro, then hit me up. 2 is better than one and it's becoming more intriguing every time pollonegro post one more win from plaza...[/QUOTE]Mush Elvii, thank you for the great report. I'm going to Medellin for the first time in December and I'm thinking about staying at the Mansion. I will be there for 5 days and am debating between staying at the Mansion or at San Peter apartments / airbnb. Or should I split it up and stay at both places. I've been to the Del Rey in San Jose CR before so was thinking that the Mansion is similar to that. Is that a good assumption? I'm assuming that they don't charge a chica fee at the Mansion. Thanks in advance.

Think of ATM withdrawal fees as cheap insurance premiums. For $3 to $5 per transaction you avoid the risk of theft or losing up to $1,000. There are some guys who can't have an audit trail of bank account transactions in Colombia. If you don't have that concern I don't see any advantage in carrying that amount of cash from home to Colombia, from the airport to your hotel, then again from your hotel to a currency exchange. You could make ATM withdrawals much more discreetly and know who is or isn't watching you do it. If I'm looking for a foreigner to jack, I'm going to post up at an exchange house and watch for large transactions. If you go that route, try to avoid doing it alone.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381609]Hey guys, another question I have: When using money exchange outlets (the ones in Poblados and Laureles seem to give a decent rate from my research) what's the max amount they will allow you to exchange? I ask this because in my country you can't exchange more than $300 USD outside of a bank, is there anything like this in place in Colombia or will I be okay exchanging $1000+ USA the to pesos?

P. s Money Max in Laureles is buying at 3320 cop per 1 USD the as per their website, which is a 3% charge & is comparable to withdrawing from the ATM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2381511]You don't, Search for facebook on this forum, you will find a bunch. Friend request them. Once you have a couple that have accepted, see if their friends list is public. Look through for any that look like chicas that work.

Just be careful, if you send out to many FR in a day, FB will block you from doing it for a few days. The first 20 are the hardest, just take it slow and build it up over time. Don't message them until you are closer to the trip date, just add them.

Here are a few to get you started. I haven't seen all of these, but they have open friend lists to get you started.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/juliana.nochety[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/suleymi.caro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dayana.arenasdias[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025105994414[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you sure Juliana Nochety isn't a tranny?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381609]Hey guys, another question I have: When using money exchange outlets (the ones in Poblados and Laureles seem to give a decent rate from my research) what's the max amount they will allow you to exchange? I ask this because in my country you can't exchange more than $300 USD outside of a bank, is there anything like this in place in Colombia or will I be okay exchanging $1000+ USA the to pesos?

P. s Money Max in Laureles is buying at 3320 cop per 1 USD the as per their website, which is a 3% charge & is comparable to withdrawing from the ATM.[/QUOTE]You can western union yourself the money. They sometimes have really good rate. The cambios I find always try to give you the lowest possible. Please note it varies almost every single day. And from my experience I don't think there is any limit. I changed 800 $ without any problems. Another thing you can do is use credit card cash advance which would have like a 5 $ charge depending on your bank.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381609]Hey guys, another question I have: When using money exchange outlets (the ones in Poblados and Laureles seem to give a decent rate from my research) what's the max amount they will allow you to exchange? I ask this because in my country you can't exchange more than $300 USD outside of a bank, is there anything like this in place in Colombia or will I be okay exchanging $1000+ USA the to pesos?

P. s Money Max in Laureles is buying at 3320 cop per 1 USD the as per their website, which is a 3% charge & is comparable to withdrawing from the ATM.[/QUOTE]

I usually think that Exchange places are rip-offs - just use your ATM card - your bank gets a better deal than you will is what I always read. And ATM withdrawals are a flat fee compared to the percentage you're paying to the exchange places - but if your math is completely correct than you may be on to something - I got charged $5 per withdrawal by Colombian banks - usually for 400k pesos - with exchange fee from Chase being about 3%

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2381642]Are you sure Juliana Nochety isn't a tranny?[/QUOTE]LOL. That is not a tranny. That is a straight up dude! And a guy that I know is friends with him. When I click on the real women that y'all post, I always have 5 to 8 monger friends in common.

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2381511]You don't, Search for facebook on this forum, you will find a bunch. Friend request them. Once you have a couple that have accepted, see if their friends list is public. Look through for any that look like chicas that work.

Just be careful, if you send out to many FR in a day, FB will block you from doing it for a few days. The first 20 are the hardest, just take it slow and build it up over time. Don't message them until you are closer to the trip date, just add them.

Here are a few to get you started. I haven't seen all of these, but they have open friend lists to get you started.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/juliana.nochety[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/suleymi.caro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dayana.arenasdias[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100025105994414[/URL][/QUOTE]Nicky Eusse(https://www.facebook.com/dulce.eusse) was in a report about a month or so ago. Guy said his roommate invited her over- turned out that she looked totally different in person then that one profile photo . And not in a good way.

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2381505]Thanks for the great report! I have done a lot of research on my last trip and if you need any recommendations for activities or restaurants, let me know.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I am good though. This was my fourth time in Medellin and after running, biking and exploring the city, I definitely have a good lay of the land.

Continuation of my Chica Report.

Thursday night.

Sara- 22 year old paisa (Facebook Girl) - Slight morena (Some photos she appears lighter), spinner body with pretty nipples that go perfectly with her breast. Came over after midnight. Drank cerveza, had me take a ton of fotos. Nice BBBJ for starters (there must have been a memo or something- these Medellin chicas are BBBJ'ing themselves to the top to the top of my mongering list. Straight fucking on the floor and bed. Extremely satisfying nut. Cleaned up. Finished drinking. She is the most talkative chica I've in my travels. Not a moment of dead air. My apologies to the people around my apartment who could hear her loud-talking ass through the walls. Finally got her out of there. Not calling her back over. Sleep finally. 130,000 pesos.

Friday. All the lack of sleep, bicycling, climbing hills and exploring Medellin, from the previous days, caught up with me. Slept most of the day, night and most of Saturday. Thank God I bought food for the apartment. Did not leave it once. I felt super lazy. - No chicas. Whatsapp chats notifications off the chain.

Saturday night.

Isabella again (Facebook girl) - I just cannot believe how pretty this chica is to the eyes. While I was at an event, she messaged me asking if I wanted her company. Thinking about my many other options, she won out. She is the quintessential beautiful colombiana. She seems ultra professional and chill as if she has no worry in the world. Always smiling. Extreme beautiful looks. Definitely GFE experience. As I my uber dropped me off at San Peter, she exited another car nearby. We DFK on the elevator up to the apartment. As soon as we entered the apartment, I barely closed the door and she unzipped me, my rock popped out and she commenced the BBBJ. She was working the pole so good, I knew if I laid down, I would be relaxed and easily shoot my load. Stopped her and flipped her over on the floor for doggystyle (rubber on). Pants off. Damn her snatch seems nice and tighter than the first time. Goodness gracious. Still on floor missionary for a while. This chica is working me out. Dammit. Trying to go longer than 20 minutes, almost. WHOOSH. Nut felt good. Cleaned up. Again, turned into a TLN. Left apartment and walked down La 70. She took photos. Went to one of the spots where some good music was playing. Danced. Drank. Danced. Back to apartment. Showered together. BBBJ in bathroom. To bed. Straight missionary for a while until I shot off good. Sleep. Woke up. Went for breakfast together. Papa Rellenas and Bunuelos. Nice! We parted ways. Gave her 300,000 pesos.

Sunday night.

Victoria - 20 year old Paisa (Tinder girl). Slim-thick type of body (Not fat by any stretch of the imagination) with HUGE Tits. Nice pale pretty skin, Morena. Long hair. Pretty faced girl. When I first saw Victoria's pic on Tinder, I had to swipe right and hoped she liked me back. She sure did 2 days later. In my eagerness, I hurried up and set up a cita with her after I got the match notification. She came over at the agreed time. As soon as I saw the teta imprint under her shirt, my rock stood at attention. We sat there briefly talking about her school and job life. Big tetas on a cute chica always make me instantly hard. My rock busting through my pants. She took her tits out of her shirt. HEAVEN ON THE EYES. I played and sucked them for about 15 minutes straight. Then she gave me a BBBJ for a bit. Then I put my rock between her tits. I felt the sensation to bust getting strong. Back to BBBJ. Finished in her mouth and she SWALLOWED. WOW. This was highly enjoyable. She cleaned her mouth. Put her stuff back on. She left. I will do a repeat with her. 120,000 pesos.

Monday. I received word from my job regarding an emergency and will have to cut this vacation short. I was going to stay here 15 days but will have to depart early Tuesday. Of course my job will pay for my last minute flight back to the states. I am good with that. So I was going to chill Monday but now that I have to leave, I got to blast some more loads.

Monday evening.

Victoria again. I sent her a Whatsapp message and she come over to the apartment. My GOD. She's wearing a tank top type shirt showing her huge funbags and some jeans. Of course my rock responded and stood at attention. Before I could close the door, her hand was on my rock. I was tempted to go straight back to the bedroom, but wanted to wait because I knew I'the blow my load fast. We sat down. Talked. Drank Club Colombias. Then I said f'k it, let's go to the room. She popped her shirt off and those huge funbags were hanging in all their glory. Our pants came off. I sucked and played with her bags gleefully. BBBJ commenced. Damn girl, why she going for the kill so soon with the speedy fistlock jerking. She can suck a pene good. I stopped her. Put my covered wood in her and banged her. It was enjoyable watching her funbags bounce back and forth. Flip over. Doggystyle. Damn those funbags swinging as I pound her for a bit. Felt the nut sensation coming. Removed rubber, turned her around, tit fcuked her for all of twenty seconds and coated her funbags and neck with my leche. NICE! I need to keep her number for return trips. Damn. Pesos well spent. She showered, finished her cerveza, kissed me, wished me a good flight back home and departed. 160,000 pesos.

Fernanda - 20 year old Paisa (Tinder Girl) - Around midnight, I send her a whatsapp message to come over. She agreed and was there in about 30 minutes. She has the prototypical Latina body. Light skinned, nice sized tetas, nice phat ass and slim-thick type of body. I am not going to lie. Her face was not all of that to me. She was maybe a 5 or 6 in the face. I say that knowing that YMMV. She definitely looked different in her pics. Makeup make them seem like beauty queens in photos. Had nice long hair like most chicas do here. No problem. I needed get this nut off before I start packing. We drank the last of my Club Colombias. I forgot about her face and thought about her snatch. The rock responded. F'k going to the room. I took her pants off. She unbuttoned mine, moved them down, rock popped out and she started massaging it. Removed her undies, covered the wood and jammed it into her snatch. NICE! Started stroking her on the futon-like sofa. If anyone could see inside of the 15th floor window, they'the see me stroking her something good. Sofa to the floor, bent her over the table, stood her up against wall and finally shot my relieving load. Man that felt good. Her snatch made up for her face (YMMV). Cleaned up. She kissed me and she was out. She wanted 150,000 pesos and I gave her 170,000 pesos.

My vacay in Medellin is done (cut short, but I was satisfied greatly). Goodness gracious at the many options I had. Facebook and Tinder both were poppin' this vacay. As I leave this Colombian pussy paradise, I am already thinking of my return. I am supposed to hit Pattaya and KL in two months, but I will definitely have a Medellin return on my mind. Never did I expect to receive this many BBBJs from the Paisas.

Bien hecho Medallo!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2381640]Think of ATM withdrawal fees as cheap insurance premiums. For $3 to $5 per transaction you avoid the risk of theft or losing up to $1,000. There are some guys who can't have an audit trail of bank account transactions in Colombia. If you don't have that concern I don't see any advantage in carrying that amount of cash from home to Colombia, from the airport to your hotel, then again from your hotel to a currency exchange. You could make ATM withdrawals much more discreetly and know who is or isn't watching you do it. If I'm looking for a foreigner to jack, I'm going to post up at an exchange house and watch for large transactions. If you go that route, try to avoid doing it alone.[/QUOTE]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]You can buy Colombian pesos from Bank of America in the US, before you leave. You usually get a better exchange rate and avoid ATM fees. If any left over after the trip, they buy it back from you. There are fees involved tho.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]I have had those same concerns. I found the best way for me is that I bring 3 different ATM cards for my trip. I make sure each one has at least $1,000 in them.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]The fact that's it's a Visa tells me that you are probably fine. Scotiabank is not a mom & pop bank it's considered a multinational and even list Colombia as a country where it has branches-Wikipedia.

Make damn sure that you put a travel alert on your card though, I've had mine shut down in Colombia before, both of my bank accounts have a option inside the app to enter a travel alert it asked me where I'm traveling and what dates. If you can't find one then the app call your bank with the number on your card.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2381866]I have had those same concerns. I found the best way for me is that I bring 3 different ATM cards for my trip. I make sure each one has at least $1,000 in them.[/QUOTE]This right here is the ticket. Also can recommend Charles Schwab as a checking account as they always refund ATM fees at the end of the month. Has always worked best for me!

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]Scotiabank has been in Colombia since 2010 and purchased a majority share in Colpatria bank in 2012. It would be hard to believe that your debit card wouldn't work at either of these two banks in Colombia. But you should always bring more than one debit card or some cash in case your card gets lost or stolen.

I personally don't like the chicas at Gustos or, in general, the putas that walk the street in Lleras. You can accomplish about the same with a Facebook girl for less money. I have Facebook girls who I take out to dance and drink. Eventually we go back to my apartment and fuck. Usually they stay over. As long as they know I am going to pay them (150-200 mil), then they enjoy the good time. If I don't feel like fucking, they still enjoy going out to drink and dance and as they drink, they get more flirty. Which can be half the fun. I have no need to pay 150 to 200 USD plus the inflated cost of drinks at Gustos. But to each his own.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2380886]This is my personal opinion. Gusto girls normally will ask for 200 to 250 dollars, most of them will come down to 150-200 dollars. I think it is well worth it. With a Gusto girl, I can dance and play with her all night in the club, in my case, typically from 12 am to 4 am (I some times take them to Paradise after Gusto closes to party a bit more). I then take her home to fuck her brain out for a few hours, next day I typically follow up with some morning sex. All these for 200 dollars is a steal, doesn't matter how you look at it. If I stay at home and fuck FB girls all night, I would have gone through at least 4 of them at an average 200 mil a pop, which adds up to more than 200 dollars. For me, it is a lot of more fun to dance, drink and play with a girl in a club all night and then fuck her.[/QUOTE]

Just booked my hotel room for 14 days by Ayenda Botero in Centro, I figure it's too close to everything I want to not & it's only $144 for 2 weeks so it can't get any cheaper than that.

I'm trying to note all the places within 10 mins walking distance from my hotel now in my phone so I have my itinerary ready.

1. Strip clubs: Playmates bar show, Barra Ejecutiva & Bar Maracaibo.

2. Casas: New Life.

What would be the other good / decent strip clubs & casa's within a 10 min walking distance from my hotel in Centro?

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2381855]You can buy Colombian pesos from Bank of America in the US, before you leave. You usually get a better exchange rate and avoid ATM fees. If any left over after the trip, they buy it back from you. There are fees involved tho.[/QUOTE]Checking the current rate, BofA exchange rate is about 9% worse.

ATM is the best rate, especially if you have a no fee card like Schwab.

If you contact the issuing bank they will tell you whether or not you can use the card in Colombia. They will also tell you what the fees would be.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]

I keep an AMEX card that I can use to make withdrawals from my checking account as a backup to my ATM card. The fees are a few dollars per transaction on top of the ATM fee but I only use in case my ATM card is lost or stops working. I can also use it if I need to exceed the ATM card's $500 daily limit. I can't remember that ever happening.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2381866]I have had those same concerns. I found the best way for me is that I bring 3 different ATM cards for my trip. I make sure each one has at least $1,000 in them.[/QUOTE]

I assume you still pay them the agree price if you didn't feel like fucking them after the party? It happen to me once.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2381947]I personally don't like the chicas at Gustos or, in general, the putas that walk the street in Lleras. You can accomplish about the same with a Facebook girl for less money. I have Facebook girls who I take out to dance and drink. Eventually we go back to my apartment and fuck. Usually they stay over. As long as they know I am going to pay them (150-200 mil), then they enjoy the good time. If I don't feel like fucking, they still enjoy going out to drink and dance and as they drink, they get more flirty. Which can be half the fun. I have no need to pay 150 to 200 USD plus the inflated cost of drinks at Gustos. But to each his own.[/QUOTE]

Read the forum, it's all here. You will notice a place directly across the street from your hotel. [URL]chicaspunto.com[/URL] is the next nearest casa, then there is Paris Club, Zandaly and several others. You can take a taxi or uber to Energy in Laureles for 10,000 to 12,000 pesos.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2382004]Just booked my hotel room for 14 days by Ayenda Botero in Centro, I figure it's too close to everything I want to not & it's only $144 for 2 weeks so it can't get any cheaper than that.

I'm trying to note all the places within 10 mins walking distance from my hotel now in my phone so I have my itinerary ready.

1. Strip clubs: Playmates bar show, Barra Ejecutiva & Bar Maracaibo.

2. Casas: New Life.

What would be the other good / decent strip clubs & casa's within a 10 min walking distance from my hotel in Centro?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2381640]Think of ATM withdrawal fees as cheap insurance premiums. For $3 to $5 per transaction you avoid the risk of theft or losing up to $1,000. There are some guys who can't have an audit trail of bank account transactions in Colombia. If you don't have that concern I don't see any advantage in carrying that amount of cash from home to Colombia, from the airport to your hotel, then again from your hotel to a currency exchange. You could make ATM withdrawals much more discreetly and know who is or isn't watching you do it. If I'm looking for a foreigner to jack, I'm going to post up at an exchange house and watch for large transactions. If you go that route, try to avoid doing it alone.[/QUOTE]Actually a good place to use ATM's and with security looking over your shoulder is at the Exito in Poblado on Calle 10. There are numerous ATM's inside the store and on the[perimeter where security is stationed. The best exchange rate will be from Scotia versus BanColombia ATM's, but there others as well. You can make a withdrawal and then go shopping inside the store if your paranoid that somebody is watching you, however mostly Colombians are making withdrawals from the ATM's there. It's not a known tourist stop where foreigners would typically be getting money like at an exchange house.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2382004]Just booked my hotel room for 14 days by Ayenda Botero in Centro, I figure it's too close to everything I want to not & it's only $144 for 2 weeks so it can't get any cheaper than that.

I'm trying to note all the places within 10 mins walking distance from my hotel now in my phone so I have my itinerary ready.

1. Strip clubs: Playmates bar show, Barra Ejecutiva & Bar Maracaibo.

2. Casas: New Life.

What would be the other good / decent strip clubs & casa's within a 10 min walking distance from my hotel in Centro?[/QUOTE]This is where you can figure that out:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL] post 52.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]You should travel with at least one extra debit card from another financial institution or a credit card, have extra cash, cellphone to call your institution in case of a problem, verify if an ATM is on VisaPlus system as some ATM are not connected at all or may not be connected on weekends; good idea is to always have a list of ATM nearby, all attached to branches, know the hours and if they are on VisaPlus.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_[/URL](interbank_network).

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2382004]Just booked my hotel room for 14 days by Ayenda Botero in Centro, I figure it's too close to everything I want to not & it's only $144 for 2 weeks so it can't get any cheaper than that.

I'm trying to note all the places within 10 mins walking distance from my hotel now in my phone so I have my itinerary ready.

1. Strip clubs: Playmates bar show, Barra Ejecutiva & Bar Maracaibo.

2. Casas: New Life.

What would be the other good / decent strip clubs & casa's within a 10 min walking distance from my hotel in Centro?[/QUOTE]In my opinion, I will be in Medellin on the 2nd, the 9th, or the 23rd of November, not sure as of yet due to my work schedule, unfortunately, I will only be there for a day. Extra bonus money and limited time will only allow me a 2 day visit, so I will arrive on a Saturday and leave out Sunday, that's how it is when you just love Medellin! (Centro that Is!) Pollo negro is out!

Pro tips:

Bring a paper and pen to get numbers so you don't have to take your phone out all the time. (If you want to get numbers for later).

There are no "girly drink" prices, and beers are cheap. So feel free to grab a girl and have a drink with her and chat.

Be careful w / phone and wallet if girls are touching / grabbing at you. Or use a money belt.

Go with a friend.

Think of it as a time to relax and have a drink and look at the extremes of the human condition (and body) on a bustling street. There are diamonds in that rough though.

Good times will be had by all (or most? LOL).

I'm throwing my hat in for positive experiences at El Centro! Been to the street behind the church probably 4-5 times. Yes, I'm a gringo, and my Spanish is "muy malo. " Been solo, with another dude, and with other gringo females who just like watching crazy shit. Have also pulled some phone numbers while there, to call later. Also been to some sketchier-looking places down the street. I've been during the day, and pretty late at night.

I've never had any issues in any of these spots. I also stayed in Mandarin Oriental #2 barrio in a casa Antigua for over a month, and had a dozen gringos visit me over that time, including my female family members, and no one had any issues, although we were constantly told how dangerous it was there. It wasn't. Both day and night.

This is not to say robberies don't happen. Or that my short experience isn't representative. I just think a lot of the fear gets overplayed. If anyone would like to join me in El Centro between Nov 23 - Dec 2, let me know.

I will disclose that I travel all over the world and go to shady parts of cities all the time. And have a pretty high tolerance for bullshit, and high awareness of what's going on. Although I have been pickpocketed and scammed in different spots around the world.

I only use Scotiabank when I want to withdraw pesos in Colombia. Any city. I don't have an account, but their ATM's work 100% of the time. You should be OK.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2382099]........... I will arrive on a Saturday and leave out Sunday, that's how it is when you just love Medellin! (Centro that Is!) Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I love Medellin too but have never done that. I add how much I will have to pay for airfare to accomodation and it comes up to more than I pay for two hookers at home so I go with the hookers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2382297]I love Medellin too but have never done that. I add how much I will have to pay for airfare to accomodation and it comes up to more than I pay for two hookers at home so I go with the hookers.[/QUOTE]I do the same calculation too. The average hourly hooker rate where I am is about USD 250. Airfare and lodging to Medellin is about USD 1250.

So I figured, a 4 or 5 day trip would be a good break even. The airfare ranges from USD 350 to 1000 so cheaper airfare can accommodate shorter trips.

[QUOTE=Travel365;2382147]Pro tips:

Bring a paper and pen to get numbers so you don't have to take your phone out all the time. (If you want to get numbers for later).

There are no "girly drink" prices, and beers are cheap. So feel free to grab a girl and have a drink with her and chat.

Be careful w / phone and wallet if girls are touching / grabbing at you. Or use a money belt.

Go with a friend.

Think of it as a time to relax and have a drink and look at the extremes of the human condition (and body) on a bustling street. There are diamonds in that rough though.

Good times will be had by all (or most? LOL).

I'm throwing my hat in for positive experiences at El Centro! Been to the street behind the church probably 4-5 times. Yes, I'm a gringo, and my Spanish is "muy malo. " Been solo, with another dude, and with other gringo females who just like watching crazy shit. Have also pulled some phone numbers while there, to call later. Also been to some sketchier-looking places down the street. I've been during the day, and pretty late at night.

I've never had any issues in any of these spots. I also stayed in Mandarin Oriental #2 barrio in a casa Antigua for over a month, and had a dozen gringos visit me over that time, including my female family members, and no one had any issues, although we were constantly told how dangerous it was there. It wasn't. Both day and night.

This is not to say robberies don't happen. Or that my short experience isn't representative. I just think a lot of the fear gets overplayed. If anyone would like to join me in El Centro between Nov 23 - Dec 2, let me know.

I will disclose that I travel all over the world and go to shady parts of cities all the time. And have a pretty high tolerance for bullshit, and high awareness of what's going on. Although I have been pickpocketed and scammed in different spots around the world.[/QUOTE]Tbh when I watch videos on youtube of El Centro in Medellin I'm confused as to why people are so afraid, the streets look fairly clean, the people don't dress like total bums and most people seem to be working or walking to work & tonnes of police presence are in the area. The only thing I notice is that the Botero hotel avenue looks a bit run down & the streets are always crowded which means there will be pick pocketers present.

I know in my country (Jamaica) I always see naive white tourists with backpacks walking around shady areas or going to parties in complete ghettos that most normal people in the country wouldn't go to & I may be wrong but I feel that it's these types of tourist who get caught with their pants down the most.

I personally don't plan to walk around centro with a lot of valuables on my person nor care to bring back girls to my hotel nor withdraw $ from the ATM's in the ubicacion, these are things I don't do in my home country so I wouldn't do it in Colombia either.

Hopefully I see atleast one of you guys on here around the area during November 6-20th, if so we should get a drink.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2381637]Mush Elvii, thank you for the great report. I'm going to Medellin for the first time in December and I'm thinking about staying at the Mansion. I will be there for 5 days and am debating between staying at the Mansion or at San Peter apartments / airbnb. Or should I split it up and stay at both places. I've been to the Del Rey in San Jose CR before so was thinking that the Mansion is similar to that. Is that a good assumption? I'm assuming that they don't charge a chica fee at the Mansion. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The Mansion has the similar concept as the Del Rey, but the setup is very different. Where as the Del Rey has a casino, a very large bar, a sizable lobby, and a multi room dance club (key largo) across the street; the Mansion is a small hotel with basically nothing in the lobby, there is a small bar with a small dance floor and a small outdoor area attached to the Mansion. It is open only to the guest at the Mansion. This small bar closes between 2-3 am, where as the Del Rey opens 24/7, some of the best chica I have ever picked up at the Del Rey is around 6 am. In my opinion, the girls at the Mansion is on the same level in terms of looks as the Del Rey but they are cheaper and the service is better. The Mansion is in the middle of nowhere, you need to take a taxi or Uber to park Lleras (it is close to the mansion, but not walkable), there you can find better looking girls at a higher price.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2382364]I do the same calculation too. The average hourly hooker rate where I am is about USD 250. Airfare and lodging to Medellin is about USD 1250.

So I figured, a 4 or 5 day trip would be a good break even. The airfare ranges from USD 350 to 1000 so cheaper airfare can accommodate shorter trips.[/QUOTE]But a weekend trip is very affordable for me. I couldn't even imagine paying a chic State side $300-$500 for 2 hours. I could fly to Colombia, book.

A room and have a 18 yr old blowing my mind. The quality just ain't the same for me, the Colombian chicas are worth me spending $251 on a ticket & about $300 for a day to bang 2-4 nice 18 yr olds, to each their own, but I can't imagine spending $300 an hour on a 40 year plus chic at a massage parlor. Medellin me! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2382384]The Mansion has the similar concept as the Del Rey, but the setup is very different. Where as the Del Rey has a casino, a very large bar, a sizable lobby, and a multi room dance club (key largo) across the street; the Mansion is a small hotel with basically nothing in the lobby, there is a small bar with a small dance floor and a small outdoor area attached to the Mansion. It is open only to the guest at the Mansion. This small bar closes between 2-3 am, where as the Del Rey opens 24/7, some of the best chica I have ever picked up at the Del Rey is around 6 am. In my opinion, the girls at the Mansion is on the same level in terms of looks as the Del Rey but they are cheaper and the service is better. The Mansion is in the middle of nowhere, you need to take a taxi or Uber to park lleras (it is close to the mansion, but not walkable), there you can find better looking girls at a higher price.[/QUOTE]Thank you SJobs for the input. Does the Mansion charge you a fee to take a girl to your room like the Del Rey does? Also, can you bring girls from outside to your room? Like online chicas or if I pick up one at Parque Lleras.

Rudebwoy,

Been to both places, downtown kingston and medellin centro and you're not going to have issues as long as you use your common street sense. Just don't let your guard down and don't attract attention to yourself and don't be drunk. Simple rules and everything will be Ire. You are going to have a fantastic time. The chicas are sweet and its point and click in casas, and manageable in centro. Keep a low profile whenever possibe. And stay around where people are, avoid isolated areas/alleys etc. That worked for me. Using the metro was dead easy, and allowed me to get my steps in every day I was there. I mixed a lot of toursty things in with my trip so didn't care for more than the 1-2 HR of company for the day, but you have all sorts of options there. Not sure how your spanish is, but every extra word you know helps.

Anyone that have come across my post knows my ultimate goal her is to give us mongeres a leg up on these Canabal man eating chicas hahah. Sometime I just think if things to share from my pov. Sometimes I get an interesting DM question that I feel we all can benefit from if it hasn't been answered. A buddy of mine had a good question that most people avoid answering. The answer avoid answering it in fear of causing too much traffic to their hidden gems or just out of sheer not knowing a solid answer.

This question has an ever changing answer which makes it tough one to tackle with the absolute easiest method to solve I'd say. "Where are guest friendly hotels or apartments throughout the city in specific neighborhoods?

The last time I I had a question like this was in reference to my personal black book of 200+ chicas that I wanted to share. I wanted to go against the selfishness I despise so I screen shots my whole phone book of +57 numbers hahaha. I post 15 screen shots with about 15 -20 names / photos / and phone numbers per page. Took me forever to make this catalog. Big bro wasn't a big fan of this and removed my post hahaha. Understandable for reasons. So I changed my mind on researching and posting outside of the beautiful Google maps file that's floating around. Even that changes frequently.

Ok. Thanks for listening to my rant hahaha. So how do we help out the mongeres with this dilemma? Do we share our hidden gems. I mean obviously a few locations are posted randomly but how do we find actual nice places that are confirmed? My newest method. Fun don't don't dunnnn. 2 words! The Chicas!

No really who has more experience and boots on the ground than the chicas! Not a single one of us have more first hand insight than they do. I literally had this concern last month when heading to Cartagena. Every place seemed anti visitor. Or are they. Is this just a cover up to appear as if they do not market or tolerate sex tourism? So I reached to every single chica in my phone with the CTG next to her name. I message all the chica on Photo PrepaGos. Even once that I had no interest in. I easily sent out 50 messages. I go back 20+ boot on the ground response from my little unknowing scouts. Convo went like this. " Hey love, I want to see you when I arrive in a few weeks (the bait). But I just found out my Hotel appears to be non guest friendly. There's no way I'm willing to stay 6 days in this city and not be able to see you. I'd rather spend time with you in a nice comfortable hassle free place where we can really enjoy the nice modern location than in some love motel! (The hook). Where are you're favorite hotels or apartments to meet clients. Specifically a place that when you come, I don't have to. Blah blah" (the reel in). These chicas responded Every time. "Que rico amor" as if she feels like this will really benefit her long term. LOL jajaja they listed 3 or 4 of their favorite guest friendly hotels / air bnb locations. That is simply a lead. Look into the more commonly mentioned places. Now I'm not doubting there will be some proximity motives and plans from a few chics but I noticed a lot of the same hotels in each of the responses. And even a lot of the places with guest policies that are "not enforced". I specifically target the Venezuelan chicas too. A lot of them have no ID for this place and know where to go for "Hassel free". One chick even told me which guards to name drop at some of the hotels. Which turns into a simple 10 to 20 k pesos and a high five. Overall the chicas are an amazing resource for this. I can not suggest a specific place in Medellin outside of Air BNBs. That's my golden nugget. Specifically from the group "life afar". They normally have a key to the main entrance. I've yet to see a security guard at their apartments. Which is my personal preference. But I do see cameras in every hallway and stairwell. Just pm the owners of your Airbnb he / she are normally respond with a thumbs up or down. But for anything outside of that pick the chicas brains if you don't think the mongerers here will share in enough detail! Or. If your tired of the RTFP responses hahahaha things change lets keep asking the same questions. Creates new content and we stay in real-time. If this opens up convo for a few of us to share specific names and airbnbs then great! Good vibes only, help each other. Stay one leg up on these chicas gents. Pun intended.

This is excellent advice. Follow it to the letter and everything will be irie Mon.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2382437]Rudebwoy,

Been to both places, downtown kingston and medellin centro and you're not going to have issues as long as you use your common street sense. Just don't let your guard down and don't attract attention to yourself and don't be drunk. Simple rules and everything will be Ire. You are going to have a fantastic time. The chicas are sweet and its point and click in casas, and manageable in centro. Keep a low profile whenever possibe. And stay around where people are, avoid isolated areas/alleys etc. That worked for me. Using the metro was dead easy, and allowed me to get my steps in every day I was there. I mixed a lot of toursty things in with my trip so didn't care for more than the 1-2 HR of company for the day, but you have all sorts of options there. Not sure how your spanish is, but every extra word you know helps.[/QUOTE]

2 weeks ago walked in New Life. Went with a group that required two taxis. Drivers split up on "accident". Half of us ended up at New Life the other taxi at Energy.

The girls in New Life had round numbers hanging from their lingerie. We walked to a big blue door with a huge white metal gate inside. I Guessing to keep out maybe the cops or robbers LOL. Pressed the buzzer. A few seconds later the gate made a loud click and unlocked. Myself and 3 amigos walked up about 15 concrete stairs and we're treated at the top by a short Asian or Hispanic lady in regular clothes. She said please and points to a room with maybe 8 chairs. We sit down and while walking I noticed another room with about 5 guys in there next to ours. And another lobby with 2 guys in chairs. All gringos haha. The prices for 30 mind or 1 hour were posted on the wall. Literally like 25 dollars. She brought us all beers. We laughed as from our waiting room we could see guys walking up an down from the upstairs holding absolute stunners hands. Heading to or leaving heaven hahaha.

The chicas filed in one by one. "Hi I am Angela number 6," then shakes all of our hands one by one the walks out and into the next waiting room. "Hi I'm Pamela number 4, Hi I'm Louisa number 8, . " After approximately 20 or so women, the train stops. The woman walks in and says "you like? My amigos are already on their way back from Energy to meet us. We respond ummm give us a sec our friends are coming. Then I see the prettiest one, easily jlo mixed with Kim Kardashian walking up the stairs with a guy. I literally slapped my forehead as she was going to be my pick! No way I'm waiting an hour for her and then touching her two seconds later after him hahaha I know I know. But I at least pretend they aren't all this way hahaha. Back on topic. My amigos walk in. The whole line up and 6 new ones come in and do the whole spill. I immediately take the the 2nd best imo. A little MiLfy vibe. Easily 40. With everything inflated like a blow up doll hahaha don't judge me. Her big fakes lips and unrealistic boobs was on my bucket list. Amaaaaaaazing session. I was able to get a picture of the room so you can see what the rooms are like. Also my buddy snapped a photo from energy. Long story short he said the girls at energy were a little better than the girls the girls at New Life. He said more curvier chicks but I'm sure it's subjective. Below see the room and then a few chicks in Energy. It appears Energy dressed their girls in the same clothes and on Halloween they all had on costumes. New life was kinda wear what you want as girls were topless and lingerie and some with more clothes on. Bill for an hour with beer was 82 k pesos. This was almost unfair and amazing the same time. And cheap.

You will be fine. You can bring girls back to your hotel, you just have to keep track of your valuables while they are in your room. People are afraid of Centro because they are not from or familiar with areas that are economically diverse. That includes Colombians from higher end neighborhoods by the way.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2382366]Tbh when I watch videos on youtube of El Centro in Medellin I'm confused as to why people are so afraid, the streets look fairly clean, the people don't dress like total bums and most people seem to be working or walking to work & tonnes of police presence are in the area. The only thing I notice is that the Botero hotel avenue looks a bit run down & the streets are always crowded which means there will be pick pocketers present.

I know in my country (Jamaica) I always see naive white tourists with backpacks walking around shady areas or going to parties in complete ghettos that most normal people in the country wouldn't go to & I may be wrong but I feel that it's these types of tourist who get caught with their pants down the most.

I personally don't plan to walk around centro with a lot of valuables on my person nor care to bring back girls to my hotel nor withdraw $ from the ATM's in the ubicacion, these are things I don't do in my home country so I wouldn't do it in Colombia either.

Hopefully I see atleast one of you guys on here around the area during November 6-20th, if so we should get a drink.[/QUOTE]

There is the further benefit of no risk of a criminal record and getting caught up in a vice sting.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2382364]I do the same calculation too. The average hourly hooker rate where I am is about USD 250. Airfare and lodging to Medellin is about USD 1250.

So I figured, a 4 or 5 day trip would be a good break even. The airfare ranges from USD 350 to 1000 so cheaper airfare can accommodate shorter trips.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2382414]But a weekend trip is very affordable for me. I couldn't even imagine paying a chic State side $300-$500 for 2 hours. I could fly to Colombia, book.

A room and have a 18 yr old blowing my mind. The quality just ain't the same for me, the Colombian chicas are worth me spending $251 on a ticket & about $300 for a day to bang 2-4 nice 18 yr olds, to each their own, but I can't imagine spending $300 an hour on a 40 year plus chic at a massage parlor. Medellin me! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I am not disagreeing with you. At USD 251 to Medellin, your one day trip is definitely worth it. Have fun.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2381637]Mush Elvii, thank you for the great report. I'm going to Medellin for the first time in December and I'm thinking about staying at the Mansion. I will be there for 5 days and am debating between staying at the Mansion or at San Peter apartments / airbnb. Or should I split it up and stay at both places. I've been to the Del Rey in San Jose CR before so was thinking that the Mansion is similar to that. Is that a good assumption? I'm assuming that they don't charge a chica fee at the Mansion. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I only wanted to stay for a day or two and get some contacts in case I need to use them (I did. Was a dud for last night in mde), but didn't plan to stay there all the time nor I plan to stay there in any future visit. FB, CC, Tindr, PP. All these web based services can get you enough options. The only benefit in Mansion is that you are chceking the goods right there, you are safe in most instances (not going to doppamined by girl), but service can be meh. Never been to DR so can't compare to that.

You can have a girl visit you at mansion; I didn't call in one, but a couple of guests told me that I can. In busy hour, there's so many gals out there that you will likely find one of your interest.

Don't stay Sun or Mon in mansion. Those are pretty dead days (I stayed till sun- and it was 1/4th of what I saw on FRI).

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2382497]FB, CC, Tindr, PP.[/QUOTE]What is PP?

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2382591]What is PP?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin[/URL]

Photo Prepagos.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2382451]There is the further benefit of no risk of a criminal record and getting caught up in a vice sting..[/QUOTE]To that brother! Pollo negro is out!

How is the service for PP? Does the girl look like pictures, any fake pics?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2382606][URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin[/URL]

Photo Prepagos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2382451]There is the further benefit of no risk of a criminal record and getting caught up in a vice sting..[/QUOTE]Exactly. With the new laws state side, and increasing enforcement, that is an added benefit. Also, the supply state side has taken a hit due to the advertising venues getting shut down.

So, it is definitely worth while to travel once in 3 months and stay for a week.

I have been to Medellin 3 times earlier, and was not plugged into Facebook. I went to Fase Dos, Energy, SA chicas, and one girl, a an expat who lives there hooked me up with. She is his regular. Anyway, I paid more than the typical FB prices on those trips, but every trip was less than USD 2000 door to door. All of them were about a week long, and I either had an over night or met 2 or more on a night.

So this is definitely a lot of value for the money. Since, I have now discovered FB, it would be interesting to see how it might work out.

On a side note, I have walked alone on La 70 area etc, alone past midnight, and other than seeing some odd folks looking for bottles etc. In trash, I didn't perceive any danger. I am not suggesting anyone should do it, and take standard precautions for urban settings. Everyone's situation is different. I am a big guy, with tan skin and I get easily mistaken for a Colombian. My Spanish is not very good, but it was non existent initially. So, if I didn't talk, people would assume I was Colombian and talk to me in Spanish.

Also, as I try to speak Spanish and improve my language skills, many chicas told me that my gringo accent Spanish is kinda cute and sexy. LOL.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2382674]How is the service for PP? Does the girl look like pictures, any fake pics?[/QUOTE]I land tomorrow and already lined up some dates with some girls off PP, good prices too like 100 Mil for some anal. And like a lot of these PP-hoes are reviewed on Catador Colombia.

This guy was busted by the Feds a week back and is currently locked up awaiting trial. The 16 year old involved is cooperating with the authorities in Colombia to ensure he is convicted.
He is being held at MCC in Manhattan where El Chapo was housed while awaiting trial.

Victor Galarza.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1806699974[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2382730]This guy was busted by the Feds a week back and is currently locked up awaiting trial. The 16 year old involved is cooperating with the authorities in Colombia to ensure he is convicted. He is being held at MCC in Manhattan where El Chapo was housed while awaiting trial.

Victor Galarza.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1806699974[/URL][/QUOTE]Why didn't you post the article about this?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2382731]Why didn't you post the article about this?[/QUOTE]Because there isn't any, yet.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2382688]On a side note, I have walked alone on La 70 area etc, alone past midnight, and other than seeing some odd folks looking for bottles etc. In trash, I didn't perceive any danger. I am not suggesting anyone should do it, and take standard precautions for urban settings. Everyone's situation is different. I am a big guy, with tan skin and I get easily mistaken for a Colombian. My Spanish is not very good, but it was non existent initially. So, if I didn't talk, people would assume I was Colombian and talk to me in Spanish.

Also, as I try to speak Spanish and improve my language skills, many chicas told me that my gringo accent Spanish is kinda cute and sexy. LOL.[/QUOTE]We really need to destroy this myth of "I'm easily mistaken for a Colombian. " Unless you were born and raised and lived most of your life in Colombia, no Colombian is going to think you're a Colombian. People in Colombia talk to you in Spanish because for most of them, that's the only language they know.

Trust me on this. Even if you grew up in some other Spanish speaking country, nobody is going to assume you're a Colombian. Anyone who tries to tell you they thought you were Colombian is working a scam.

Besides, it doesn't matter. If someone is looking to rob you, do you really think they're going to pass you by because they think you might be Colombian?

However, I've also walked, not only the La 70 area, but most of the side streets at all hours from 7 am to 4 am, with no problems. While problems can pop up, it's not an area I consider risky, unless you're engaging in risky behavior.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2382731]Why didn't you post the article about this?[/QUOTE]The article can be found in the link below.

[URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/judicial/asi-cayo-la-red-de-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-que-operaba-en-el-parque-lleras-de-medellin-articulo-886713[/URL]

He does not look like a very solid citizen.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2382730]This guy was busted by the Feds a week back and is currently locked up awaiting trial. The 16 year old involved is cooperating with the authorities in Colombia to ensure he is convicted.
He is being held at MCC in Manhattan where El Chapo was housed while awaiting trial.

Victor Galarza.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1806699974[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

So if I'm not mistaken, Colombia is probably one of the best places in the world for this type of thing.

I have heard things are cheap here and that the risk of STDs is relatively low compared to a lot of other places in the world, plus the girls are amazing and its not really a worry when it comes to legality.

I want to take a trip to here relatively soon, but before I do so, I wanted to ask for a beginners guide or a crash course prior to landing.

Any advice guys? It surely would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2382730]This guy was busted by the Feds a week back and is currently locked up awaiting trial. The 16 year old involved is cooperating with the authorities in Colombia to ensure he is convicted.
He is being held at MCC in Manhattan where El Chapo was housed while awaiting trial.

Victor Galarza.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1806699974[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://amp.elespectador.com/noticias/judicial/asi-cayo-la-red-de-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-que-operaba-en-el-parque-lleras-de-medellin-articulo-886713[/URL]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2382591]What is PP?[/QUOTE]PP= Photo Prepagos.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2382864][URL]https://amp.elespectador.com/noticias/judicial/asi-cayo-la-red-de-explotacion-sexual-de-menores-que-operaba-en-el-parque-lleras-de-medellin-articulo-886713[/URL][/QUOTE]This appears to be be some of the fallout from the gay pimp, Ale Perez, who was arrested earlier this year.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2382414].......... I can't imagine spending $300 an hour on a 40 year plus chic at a massage parlor......[/QUOTE]Clearly we have different experiences state side. I don't blame you at all for your weekend trips.

[QUOTE=TheGoodGuy100;2382829]Hey guys,

So if I'm not mistaken, Colombia is probably one of the best places in the world for this type of thing.

I have heard things are cheap here and that the risk of STDs is relatively low compared to a lot of other places in the world, plus the girls are amazing and its not really a worry when it comes to legality.

I want to take a trip to here relatively soon, but before I do so, I wanted to ask for a beginners guide or a crash course prior to landing.

Any advice guys? It surely would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You wouldn't be law enforcement by any chance?

I assume you can read the board like everyone else who aren't cops, otherwise your one lazy ass cop collecting PM or contacts.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2382886]This appears to be be some of the fallout from the gay pimp, Ale Perez, who was arrested earlier this year.[/QUOTE]I missed that story. Any other details you have or can dig up that you wouldn't mind sharing?

[QUOTE=TheGoodGuy100;2382829]Hey guys,

So if I'm not mistaken, Colombia is probably one of the best places in the world for this type of thing.

I have heard things are cheap here and that the risk of STDs is relatively low compared to a lot of other places in the world, plus the girls are amazing and its not really a worry when it comes to legality.

I want to take a trip to here relatively soon, but before I do so, I wanted to ask for a beginners guide or a crash course prior to landing.

Any advice guys? It surely would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Use common sense and scroll down, this forum has many useful information. Medellin is not just mongering, do your research before going.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2382952]Clearly we have different experiences state side. I don't blame you at all for your weekend trips.[/QUOTE]Of some prices I heard at local massage parlors, many guys say. They pay a house fee of $70-$80 then a table shower flip & turn of $160 more. Only to think with the little head and be introduced to a 40 plus year old provider, think for one second, the caliber and quality of a girl you can find in Medellin for $250-$300 usd, I'm not speaking on anyone in particular, but being spoiled by Medellin, just won't allow me to spend $250-$300 in the USA on a provider, I'll by a plane ticket first and travel 3 hours south, just my 2 cents. Carry on my fellow monger, Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2382748]We really need to destroy this myth of "I'm easily mistaken for a Colombian. " Unless you were born and raised and lived most of your life in Colombia, no Colombian is going to think you're a Colombian. People in Colombia talk to you in Spanish because for most of them, that's the only language they know.

Trust me on this. Even if you grew up in some other Spanish speaking country, nobody is going to assume you're a Colombian. Anyone who tries to tell you they thought you were Colombian is working a scam.

Besides, it doesn't matter. If someone is looking to rob you, do you really think they're going to pass you by because they think you might be Colombian?

However, I've also walked, not only the La 70 area, but most of the side streets at all hours from 7 am to 4 am, with no problems. While problems can pop up, it's not an area I consider risky, unless you're engaging in risky behavior.[/QUOTE]I am not bragging that I can pass for a Colombian. All I am saying is that I get mistaken for one till I open my mouth. It starts even before I get to Colombia. I get mistaken by the airline gate agents, stewardesses, even the arrivals staff and immigration officials at Colombian airports. They are all bi lingual and in a setting where they don't necessarily assume someone can speak Spanish. Once I open my mouth, they realize and switch to English.

This is just not unique to Colombia for me. It has happened to me in Mexico, Costa Rica, Middle East etc.

I am not saying, being mistaken for Colombian protects me from muggings and other crime. All I am saying is that, it makes it slightly less likely. After all, criminals like to go after easy marks. Pale skinned, shorts, athletic shoes and fanny pack wearing person would get picked before me any day by the criminals. Mistaking me for Colombian, they wouldn't think I have valuables and would presume I would pursue them. On the negative side I am not as desirable to the chicas as the blonde, blue eyed gringos. LOL.

Have you tried reading the information all ready here?

[QUOTE=TheGoodGuy100;2382829]Hey guys,

So if I'm not mistaken, Colombia is probably one of the best places in the world for this type of thing.

I have heard things are cheap here and that the risk of STDs is relatively low compared to a lot of other places in the world, plus the girls are amazing and its not really a worry when it comes to legality.

I want to take a trip to here relatively soon, but before I do so, I wanted to ask for a beginners guide or a crash course prior to landing.

Any advice guys? It surely would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I just had a Facebook girl cry on me today. Here is the full story. I saw this 19-year-old Facebook chica for the first time today. I live in envigado and she comes from Bello. We had the standard Facebook-chica transaction: She arrived 40 minutes late. She is a smoking hot 19-year-old. The session was decent GFE, I finished with CIM. The entire session, including shower, lasted about 30 minutes. I give her the typical 200 k that I give to Facebook-chicas who deliver the standard GFE service. But she asked for 100 k more, I naturally denied this outranges request. She fed me all kind bullshit about how far Bello is from envigado, and she needs to find a place to stay, buy food. Etc. I have been in Medellin for 3 weeks, and I fucked 30+ Facebook chicas so I know this is all bullshit, I was firm with my decision. Then all the sudden she burst into tears, telling me how hard her life was. I can't handle a 19-year-old girl crying profusely in front of me, not over 28 dollars. I hopeless agreed to give her the extra 100 k peso. I can deal with mean and tough girls; I have dealt with lots of nasty girls in the past. But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish years. Now I'm debating whether to call her back or not, she is one of the better looking ones. I don't take anyone who is over 21.18-21 is my ideal age range.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383093]I just had a Facebook girl cry on me today. Here is the full story. I saw this 19-year-old Facebook chica for the first time today. I live in envigado and she comes from Bello. We had the standard Facebook-chica transaction: She arrived 40 minutes late. She is a smoking hot 19-year-old. The session was decent GFE, I finished with CIM. The entire session, including shower, lasted about 30 minutes. I give her the typical 200 k that I give to Facebook-chicas who deliver the standard GFE service. But she asked for 100 k more, I naturally denied this outranges request. She fed me all kind bullshit about how far Bello is from envigado, and she needs to find a place to stay, buy food. Etc. I have been in Medellin for 3 weeks, and I fucked 30+ Facebook chicas so I know this is all bullshit, I was firm with my decision. Then all the sudden she burst into tears, telling me how hard her life was. I can't handle a 19-year-old girl crying profusely in front of me, not over 28 dollars. I hopeless agreed to give her the extra 100 k peso. I can deal with mean and tough girls; I have dealt with lots of nasty girls in the past. But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish teenage years. Now I'm debating whether to call her back or not, she is one of the better looking ones. I like young girls, I don't take anyone who is over 21.18-21 is my ideal age range.[/QUOTE]Are you looking for permission to pay her an extra 100 k? You don't need anyone's approval. But I will give you approval. Maybe she needs it more than you. Personally I would ask for a bundle of benefits. Maybe bang her again while she has the tears flowing. Turn those tears to a smile.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383093]I just had a Facebook girl cry on me today. Here is the full story. I saw this 19-year-old Facebook chica for the first time today. I live in envigado and she comes from Bello. We had the standard Facebook-chica transaction: She arrived 40 minutes late. She is a smoking hot 19-year-old. The session was decent GFE, I finished with CIM. The entire session, including shower, lasted about 30 minutes. I give her the typical 200 k that I give to Facebook-chicas who deliver the standard GFE service. But she asked for 100 k more, I naturally denied this outranges request. She fed me all kind bullshit about how far Bello is from envigado, and she needs to find a place to stay, buy food. Etc. I have been in Medellin for 3 weeks, and I fucked 30+ Facebook chicas so I know this is all bullshit, I was firm with my decision. Then all the sudden she burst into tears, telling me how hard her life was. I can't handle a 19-year-old girl crying profusely in front of me, not over 28 dollars. I hopeless agreed to give her the extra 100 k peso. I can deal with mean and tough girls; I have dealt with lots of nasty girls in the past. But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish teenage years. Now I'm debating whether to call her back or not, she is one of the better looking ones. I like young girls, I don't take anyone who is over 21.18-21 is my ideal age range.[/QUOTE]Man, you ninjas brought me back out of retirement with this one.

OP, if she was a great lay and you knew that you would like to repeat with her in the future, you could have easily just told her: "If you need more money, come back tomorrow for another round. " That 200 k now turns into 400 k in just a matter of days for her. Now you have set the expectation so that the 300 k turns into 600 k in just a matter of days for her if you do decide to repeat.

You fell for the crocodile tears; just charge it to the game and keep your wits about you next time. This "smoking hot 19-year-old" had two more dates lined up after you that day.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383093]I just had a Facebook girl cry on me today. Here is the full story. I saw this 19-year-old Facebook chica for the first time today. I live in envigado and she comes from Bello. We had the standard Facebook-chica transaction: She arrived 40 minutes late. She is a smoking hot 19-year-old. The session was decent GFE, I finished with CIM. The entire session, including shower, lasted about 30 minutes. I give her the typical 200 k that I give to Facebook-chicas who deliver the standard GFE service. But she asked for 100 k more, I naturally denied this outranges request. She fed me all kind bullshit about how far Bello is from envigado, and she needs to find a place to stay, buy food. Etc. I have been in Medellin for 3 weeks, and I fucked 30+ Facebook chicas so I know this is all bullshit, I was firm with my decision. Then all the sudden she burst into tears, telling me how hard her life was. I can't handle a 19-year-old girl crying profusely in front of me, not over 28 dollars. I hopeless agreed to give her the extra 100 k peso. I can deal with mean and tough girls; I have dealt with lots of nasty girls in the past. But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish teenage years. Now I'm debating whether to call her back or not, she is one of the better looking ones. I like young girls, I don't take anyone who is over 21.18-21 is my ideal age range.[/QUOTE]I would guess that found trip taxi from Bello to Envigado Is easily 80 k. Mas taxi is fairly standard from what I know. So there's nothing wrong with 20 k propina for CIM.

[QUOTE=MillerTime55;2383008]You wouldn't be law enforcement by any chance?

I assume you can read the board like everyone else who aren't cops, otherwise your one lazy ass cop collecting PM or contacts.[/QUOTE]What does a job have to do with anything? I have several buddies that are regular contributors to this board who are cops.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2383097]Man, you ninjas brought me back out of retirement with this one [/QUOTE]It is about damn time!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383093]But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish teenage years. [/QUOTE]And when I was 19 I used to be able to shed the same damn tears to guilt chicks into giving me some pussy. You should have offered her to move in with you. You would have seen how quickly she didn't need to find a place to stay that bad. You guys need to get some game about yourselves.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2383097]Man, you ninjas brought me back out of retirement with this one 🙄.

OP, if she was a great lay and you knew that you would like to repeat with her in the future, you could have easily just told her: "If you need more money, come back tomorrow for another round. " That 200 k now turns into 400 k in just a matter of days for her. Now you have set the expectation so that the 300 k turns into 600 k in just a matter of days for her if you do decide to repeat.

You fell for the crocodile tears; just charge it to the game and keep your wits about you next time. This "smoking hot 19-year-old" had two more dates lined up after you that day.[/QUOTE]That's what I mean by childish years. The logic is simple, repeat business is worth more than one time scam. She can't see through this. Given how hot she is, I would definitely call her back at least once every week. Now I'm not too sure.

[QUOTE=TheGoodGuy100;2382829]Hey guys,

So if I'm not mistaken, Colombia is probably one of the best places in the world for this type of thing.

I have heard things are cheap here and that the risk of STDs is relatively low compared to a lot of other places in the world, plus the girls are amazing and its not really a worry when it comes to legality.

I want to take a trip to here relatively soon, but before I do so, I wanted to ask for a beginners guide or a crash course prior to landing.

Any advice guys? It surely would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There is a wealth of information in this forum and the Colombia threads, one of the biggest mistakes I see when people are on here is asking questions that there are already answers to. If you back out of the "Medellin" thread to "Colombia" you will see a bunch of threads. With different types of information. The location based reports are the primary "guide" on "how to...." But yes it's a lot of reading to pick through but if you go through and read at least a years worth of it you'll be on your way. Another thread very much worth looking at is called "Reports of distinction" and many tools can be found in "Medellin Lists" "Cartagena Lists" - again I say you have to spend some time with it. I've used this forum for Colombia and Thailand and the time I spent saved me money as well as giving me more insight and know how.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2383098]I would guess that found trip taxi from Bello to Envigado Is easily 80 k. Mas taxi is fairly standard from what I know. So there's nothing wrong with 20 k propina for CIM.[/QUOTE]It's really not about the money, I just don't want to set the wrong standard. I had many girls come from Bello, they were all very happy with 200 k. The most I have ever paid for a Facebook girls was 300 k, she stayed the entire night and she did CIM with sallow. My bar bill at gusto on Thursday night was 600 dollars. It's still really cheap compare to the club in the states or the globe in Zurich.

Chocha is the main asset for "smokin hot" chicas in Latin America (a place that has no social program safety nets like in the US or some parts of Europe). No matter how many times I turn down "urgent" request to send money to pay "la luz, "arriendo", "comida", somehow these chicas never die and still have datos to log onto facebook and WhatsApp, lmao!

A hot chica in Latin America is not going hungry or without a roof over her head. She will find some hombre there that will let her exchange that chocha for a warm bed and a hot meal until she can get back on her feet and from under him.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383103]It's really not about the money, I just don't want to set the wrong standard. I had many girls come from Bello, they were all very happy with 200 k. The most I have ever paid for a Facebook girls was 300 k, she stayed the entire night and she did CIM with sallow. My bar bill at gusto on Thursday night was 600 dollars. It's still really cheap compare to the club in the states or the globe in Zurich.[/QUOTE]Your logic is correct. Most of us could easily afford to give each chica 1 Million pesos or more. But it wouldn't be smart to do so.

Bello to Envigado is about 50 mil, not 80 mil. And a lot of the chicas will have a taxi driver "friend" that they use for transport to the southern part of the metro area. Some will take a taxi to the Metro Station and use that (they won't tell you this).

[QUOTE=Combo;2383110]Bello to Envigado is about 50 mil, not 80 mil. And a lot of the chicas will have a taxi driver "friend" that they use for transport to the southern part of the metro area. Some will take a taxi to the Metro Station and use that (they won't tell you this).[/QUOTE]That should be common sense. If these chicks are as poor as everyone makes them out to be, do you seriously think they are going to be using the 300 K or whatever per week that guys are giving them to take taxis for actual taxis? No. They are going to take the cheap way so that they can spend that money where it is most needed.

I read the last few hundred forum pages. Thanks to all the posters, especially PolloNegro, JjBee62, Tasss, and TheCarlAnthony. I specifically bookmarked and studied their content which helped me plan and visualize the details of my adventure.

I don't speak Spanish conversationally. I only know basic words and relied heavily on Google translate.

Day 1 - Landed, customs line was long due to two planes arriving at the same time. Afterwards, I immediately got a Claro sim at a small shop in the airport. 16 k for 1 GB data, working number, and 7 service days. I paid a little more at the airport but I wanted to get this crucial step out of the way. I ended up using 265 MB with Google maps, Chrome, WhatsApp, and Uber. My Airbnb (San Peter) had excellent WiFi for backing up touristy photos and videos online.

I hopped on the 10 k bus to Centro which does go through the new tunnel. Sit on the right side for the best views. Arriving in Centro, I walked off the bus and was hit with the grittiness of the environment. I wasn't used to it. But, one week later, I left on that same bus back to the airport, and the area felt normal to me. As another poster pointed out, these are just normal people living their daily lives.

I walked through Plaza Botero and down Carrera 52 towards the San Antonio station. I saw several working girls but I just wanted to check-in and get settled. The metro to Estadio was packed but efficient.

After reaching my place, I got a $4 haircut, got cleaned up, then walked a few blocks to Aisha spa. Perfect location after a weary travel day. I got there 90 minutes before closing and the lineup was only three deep. Thankfully, two suited my tastes. I remember reading advice to guide your girl selection by how friendly she is and if you feel any chemistry in those first seconds. I picked the one I felt the most genuine warmth and interest from. When I entered the room, I greeted her with a loving hug and we got immediately down to business. Looks / Performance 7/8. I realize these ratings are unreliable because we all grade differently but some people might want numbers. 1 hour was 100 k, tipped 10 k. She wouldn't give me her WhatsApp and insisted I could only see her there.

It was now past 10 pm and I wanted to go to sleep but I was in Medellin. I continued with a plan to hit Parque Lleras on a Friday night after a nap. I read it peaks around midnight so the timing worked.

I grabbed an Uber and arrived at 12:15 am. The park was littered with lots of working girls. Before I started any park approaches, I wanted to dip into Gusto's to check this overpriced tourist attraction off my list. The place was jam packed, had hot women, and felt like a club for sure, but I only stayed for three minutes because I hate feeling like a sardine in a sea of people.

I started making my way around the park. I got hit with several 250 k quotes for 1 hour. I wasn't vibing with any of them, and didn't want to force a pick, so I didn't try to negotiate it down and kept moving. I ran into an especially interesting foursome with a callous ring leader. She looked wily and cold and did most of the talking for the group. I wasn't interested in that wood chipper, but some of her friends were warmer. One of them had a killer bod, but since they were in a pack mentality, I knew I had to move on or pay union prices. A duo immediately approached me afterwards. They weren't nearly as attractive but still wanted 250 k. The outlook was starting to look bleak. I kept on and spotted another duo, one of which was my type. They were on the move and I almost lost her in the crowd. I finally reached her and she had a great personality from the start, smart and strong but sweet. I asked for 2 hours and she quoted 200 k which I thought was fair considering the current environment and I was ready to leave because I had a tour booked in the morning. We cabbed it back.

I made sure to stock the place with beer, liquor, pastries, and a Bluetooth speaker for music (the TV ended up having a great searchable music video channel). The apartment ($30/ nt) was on a high floor with a great view that everyone loved.

This girl ended up being my favorite of the trip. She loved to dance close and was a lot of fun. I ended up doing TLN with her twice later in the week. I gave her 20 k for taxi. Looks / Performance 8/9.

Day 2 - Saturday, early afternoon, I decided to visit the infamous New Life. When I walked upstairs, there were already a lot of guys waiting around. I sat down in the open area near the stairs, ordered a water, and a few minutes later the lineup began. At first, I was impressed because most of the girls were solid and they just kept coming out the door one after another. Then, I started to get overwhelmed and had to start repeating the three names / numbers of my picks in my head so I wouldn't forget them all while taking in new ones. Then this stunner walked into the room. She was in a league of her own and everyone took notice. She belonged on the arm of a professional athlete. After the parade was over, for whatever reason, the lady in charge gave me first pick. Of course, I went with the stunner to the dismay of some of the other customers. Looks / Performance 10/8. I paid afterwards when time was tallied, 65 k for 45 min. New Life delivered a gem for only $19 USD. She wouldn't provide her WhatsApp to see customers outside. In hindsight, maybe I should have thrown a TLN number at her?

I then trotted to nearby Aiffe and got my own personal lineup of several girls. I liked three. New Life was definitely stronger. I ended up spending 30 minutes there with a bill of 45 k. Looks / Performance 7/6. She gladly provided her WhatsApp.

I decided to do a SW run through Centro during the early evening, 7:30 pm. My Uber driver warned me it was dangerous. Being a rookie, I played it safe and only took a copy of my passport, 60 k cash, my <$100 phone, and 20 k cash in my sock. I was only interested in taking someone back to my place. I started in Plaza Botero where I was still among police and tourists. I initially couldn't find anything to my liking. I eventually saw two girls next to one of the statues and approached the one I liked. Up close, they both looked too young, so I asked her how old she was. She claimed 18, but I knew I had to do an ID check. I asked for her cedula. She couldn't produce it right away and was pointing elsewhere and saying things in Spanish I didn't understand. Maybe someone was holding her ID or maybe she was asking we visit that hotel over there, I don't know. My gut told me to move on, so I did. During my time in the Veracruz area and Raudal, I turned girls down after approaching them because I wasn't feeling the vibe. Some girls turned me down because they didn't want to visit Laureles. They would only do nearby hotels. I heard a lot of "pssts" on my walk and got grabbed and pulled a few times. I never felt I was in any real danger, though, or I would have left. I eventually found a girl I liked on Carrera 53.

She was okay with doing 2 hours at my place for 120 k. In hindsight, I could have probably gotten TLN for a slight bump in price, but I was still new and concerned about security so I didn't want to do TLN just yet. She ended up staying 3 hours and offered a second pop but I was too drained for the day. She did try to get 60 k more before she left claiming she was owed for the third hour. I saw this scenario coming after the second hour was up. So, at that time, I reconfirmed our agreement for two hours only and if she wants to hang out in the apartment, that's on her. She was fine with it then but still tried to tack on hour 3. She did relent her request after I scrolled to the Google translate conversation we had earlier about the issue. I gave her an extra 20 k for taxi and tip. Looks / Performance 7/7.

DAY 3 - I continued my casa tour and tried out Sexy Amigas. A small lineup but, thankfully, there was one I liked. The lady in charge asks for the 1 hour, 80 k fee upfront. I give her 100 k and wait usually long for my change. Shortly after, the girl I picked wants to bring me to the room so I decide to get my 20 k after our session. Looks / Performance 7/7. I tip her 10 k. Before I leave, I ask the older lady for my change. She remembers but claims she already gave it to me. It gets amusing because she boldly insists we look at the security footage to prove it. There must be 6-7 people in the security area and we all look at the footage together, including the girl I was with. Of course, the video shows the lady taking my money but never walking back to me with the change. She is embarrassed and blames her old age. I was more interested in how that situation would play out than the missing $6. I did feel the error to be genuine.

I want to try out my first TLN. After an afternoon visit to Museo de Antioquia, it is 5 pm, and I find myself in Plaza Botero. I walk the Plaza and don't see anything to my liking. I walk the Veracruz area and I find some cuties but I get rejections for TLN. These girls don't want to leave the area, at least the nice ones I run into don't. I give up and walk a few blocks towards the San Antonio metro station. I stop dead in my tracks and tell myself I'm getting it done. I turn around and begin another lap. On the tail end of my final lap, I find one I like on the side of the church as I'm headed out of the area. She is agreeable to TLN at my place for 250 k. She seems inexperienced, so I do a cedula check just to be safe and find that she turned 18 four months ago. She says she can go at 7:30 and not now because it's too early. She has a point and I don't feel like waiting around, so I bump the offer to 300 k. She agrees but says she needs to call her family to sort out her kid situation if she's going to leave right now. She steps away for a few minutes and talks on the phone from a distance. When she gets back, she is now asking I pay her the full 300 k up front. I just smile and shake my head, no way that's happening. She doesn't back away from her position, so I walk. I make it a full block away when someone taps me. I turn around and it's her and she says my terms are fine. Before we leave, she asks I buy her something in the cafeteria behind the church near where I originally met her. I tell her she can eat anywhere she wants in Laureles when we hang out, but she really wants to have something now (I later find out she has never been to Carrera 70). I think she must be really hungry or doesn't trust I'll feed her, so I say fine, let's grab something at the cafeteria. She orders a milkshake. I don't get anything. I just smile and try to keep the mood positive. We chat a bit on Google translate and then her head starts darting around as she peers at the other side of the street like a rabbit trying to assess and track a situation. It is very pronounced and I start to feel like she is stalling for something. After she is ready to leave, she directs us to a cab on the other side of the street, and I soon find out she was peering at her parents. Her dad is driving the cab we are taking and her mother has some quick parting words for her as we climb into the cab. Her mother smiles at me as I leave with her daughter. Her parents were just looking out for her during the whole process. I had a fun evening with her. We went out to dinner. She is an amazing salsa dancer and tried to teach me in the apartment to no avail. Looks / Performance 8/7.

DAY 4 - The holiday I was unprepared for. In the afternoon, I show up to Paris Club and Masajes Zandalay both closed. I walk to New Life. Line up was very limited. I showed up too late as I saw some cuties coming and going with customers. I don't want to wait around so I hop into an Uber to Mayorista. I know it's early but it's on my list of things to see. After I pass on the Mayorista SW selection, I go back to the apartment and walk to Aisha. They are closed, too, of course. I decide to try the Medellin online scene for the first time. I didn't plan on doing any online stuff while here so I had no Facebook catalog ready. I tried Tinder but got no matches before my free likes ran out. I contacted several Prepagos girls I liked but the 150 k and below prices are for incalls, but I was too tired at this point to visit them. They wanted 230 k and up to show up at my place but I decided it was best to wait and visit Parque Lleras later where I can assess people in person. With that plan in mind, I put my head down to relax for a bit but ended up falling asleep for the night. I didn't realize how tired my body was.

Day 5 - After having checked off so many things off my to-do list, it was time for me to assess what I really liked and just stick to doing that. I immediately thought of my day one Parque Lleras girl. I also found that I really enjoyed my first TLN experience of hanging out and doing stuff beyond sex. So, I combined the two. Through WhatsApp, I offered her 200 k for TLN. She countered with 300 k and I accepted. Had a blast. Went out to dinner. Danced and drank in the apartment. Gave her 20 k for taxi. Looks / Performance 8/9.

Day 6 - I couldn't get enough of her last night, so we did TLN again. She took me to some cool places. She was such a sweetheart and really pampered me. My heart started to flutter for her so I knew it was time to switch girls.

Day 7 - I wanted to visit Aisha again in the late morning because it was conveniently within walking distance. The 11:15 am lineup only had three girls, but I was happy to see the other girl I wanted the first time I was there. 1 hour, 100 k, tipped 20 k. Looks / Performance 8/8. She was a great lover and I wanted it to continue so I immediately arranged TLN with her for my last night while getting dressed, cost was 400 k.

She arrived at 9 pm and we went to dinner. Afterwards, we drank her favorite liquor in my apartment and listened to music. We then took it to the bedroom and her performance was off the charts. She activated a whole new gear and I couldn't believe the animal she turned into. I ended up having the best sex of my life. Great way to end the trip. Tipped 20 k. Looks / Performance 8/10.

Tips for fellow novices. Frequently hold and caress them. It's a very physical culture. Initiate.

Speaking Spanish is not required. Google translate was my wingman. Use it even for tiny things so it becomes second nature. People have no problem with a language difference if they see a possible payday coming. You should still continually work on your Spanish because it will help you save time, money, and get better service.

Things you can do to help you relax Jeans, t-shirt, sneakers, faded cap if you're worried about sticking out. I felt comfortable enough later in the trip to dress up, except downtown. Keep the address of your hotel in your pocket for cabs. Keep spare money hidden on you if you're worried about being robbed. Only bring enough money and a little extra for that particular outing. Get a cheap <$100 phone. If you're worried about losing your stuff, then you have too much stuff on you.

I didn't feel unsafe during my entire trip. I only drank heavily in the apartment and kept all valuables out of sight when I had guests.

Enjoy your trip.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2383109]Maaannn 😌.

We got to help these newbies to stop bringing 1st world logic to 3rd world situations. It's a good thing that Medellin is so large. The big spender gringos flocking to lleras don't cross-pollenate the rest of the damn city. We'd be screwed if this town was a mile-long block like Sosua.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahahahahahahaaaa that's right.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2383011]I missed that story. Any other details you have or can dig up that you wouldn't mind sharing?[/QUOTE]He was a pimp in Bello. Had a bunch of girls. Used to post lots of pics and videos partying with the girls. I think it was around April when he got busted. Apparently, he was pimping much younger boys and girls. There's some links in the story you posted that go to his arrest. A few people reported on it here.

Every few months one of his old girls will post something about missing him or wishing him well.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383118]That should be common sense. If these chicks are as poor as everyone makes them out to be, do you seriously think they are going to be using the 300 K or whatever per week that guys are giving them to take taxis for actual taxis? No. They are going to take the cheap way so that they can spend that money where it is most needed.[/QUOTE]I think everyone has a learning curve, but will eventually figure it out.

Just to give my own example, before I went to Medellin for the first time, I had made friends with a girl. She was a college student and also an Instagram model. I asked how much I she wanted to give me company for 2 days. We didn't talk about bedroom activities. She quoted USD 600 for 2 days. She won't stay overnight, but will arrive around 10 am and leave about 11 pm. She said she can't stay overnight, as she stayed with her parents. I agreed, as I had no basis to see if it was the correct market level or not. No sex was explicitly discussed, but she would take me around town, to restaurants etc. Basically, act as my girlfriend.

Anyway, I arrive and message her to meet up, and I don't get a response. I tried to contact her a couple more times on the same day and moved on to other plans. After about a couple of days she messages me, asking if I was still in town and would like to meet. By this time, most of my nights are booked and I told her I can meet her for lunch the next day. I offered her COP 250 mil. Well, she showed up about 40 minutes after the scheduled time, and told me that the metro trip took longer than expected. Anyway, I take her to the room, order burgers and beers and we are talking. She speaks English very well, and even did phone tech support for USA customers. Anyway, after getting her fed and drunk, I tried to move in, and placed my hand on her thigh, and she gently blocked me. I tried to lean in to kiss, and she wouldn't let me. I am now thinking why am I wasting my time so, I just keep watching TV. She tells me that she walked from the metro, and it was warm outside and the food and drinks combined with that was making her queasy. So I told her, she can have a shower to cool off, cranked up the AC and I went back to watching TV. She showered and came back after about 15 minutes. I told her she could rest on the bed if she likes, she said she would like that, and lied down. Anyway, about half an hour passes, and I slide on to bed next to her. No response. So I start to spoon her. Again, no response and no resistance. So I put my arm around her and cuddle, again no resistance. I know, she is not asleep because, I feel her heart rate go up. She was in front buttoned shirt and jeans. I start to undo the shirt buttons, again no resistance, so shirt front open, I cup her breasts over the bra and I could hear her heart rate go up. Now I think I can close the deal, so I am trying to unhook the bra, the hooks are in the back. It was a challenge and could not get to them. Then she rolls to the side, reaches to her back and unhooks the bra, and rolls back, eyes still closed. She has very nice and firm C cups with pink nipples. I go to town on the boobs, and the nipples perk up and she starts moaning. After boob play I tried to get her jeans off, and I could only undo the top button, the jeans are too tight. She helps me to take them off, and lied back down. I peel off the panties and prepare to eat her. She says, no and tells me, she never liked it, and makes her feel weird. So I decide, enough of this gentleman shit, I get off the bed drop my pants and get naked, put the cover on, go to the foot of the bed, spread her legs. She has a nice pink one. I get in and start pounding her. She is moaning, but I am not nutting. I don't want to stop, in case she changes her mind. I keep humping and my legs are getting tired. Thankfully, after what felt like an eternity, I finally cum. I fall on the bed next to her and rest to catch my breath. I asked her if she came, and she says, she did, a while ago. Anyway, I thought to myself, I really don't care if you came or not, I am happy, I got mine. I got to the bathroom room, clean up, get dressed and start watching TV. She goes to the bathroom after about half an hour, cleans up, gets dressed and comes and sits next to me, and cuddles. After about another half hour, she says that she would like to leave, as she has a long way to go, and she is supposed to meet a cousin for a birthday party. I pay her 250 COP. She is ready to leave and wearing her shoes. I ask her how she is feeling, and she says better. I offered to book her a Uber instead of taking public transport. She gives me a big smile, and puts the info in Uber app. I bid her good bye when the Uber driver arrived. She gives me a hug and a kiss on the lips and leaves.

Didn't mean to write this whole thing, bottom line is that, she opened up to me, for the simple act of booking her an Uber. It cost me about 25 COP, for the Uber. I have not seen her or contacted her since then. I don't think I will see her again. Too much work for me, I prefer my chicas to blow me and ride me to come.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2383061]I am not bragging that I can pass for a Colombian. All I am saying is that I get mistaken for one till I open my mouth. It starts even before I get to Colombia. I get mistaken by the airline gate agents, stewardesses, even the arrivals staff and immigration officials at Colombian airports. They are all bi lingual and in a setting where they don't necessarily assume someone can speak Spanish. Once I open my mouth, they realize and switch to English.

This is just not unique to Colombia for me. It has happened to me in Mexico, Costa Rica, Middle East etc.

I am not saying, being mistaken for Colombian protects me from muggings and other crime. All I am saying is that, it makes it slightly less likely. After all, criminals like to go after easy marks. Pale skinned, shorts, athletic shoes and fanny pack wearing person would get picked before me any day by the criminals. Mistaking me for Colombian, they wouldn't think I have valuables and would presume I would pursue them. On the negative side I am not as desirable to the chicas as the blonde, blue eyed gringos. LOL.[/QUOTE]They're not mistaking you for Colombian, Mexican, Costa Rican or Saudi Arabian. They're speaking their native language, rather than hoping that the tourist in front of them speaks English, instead of German, French, Dutch, Portuguese, etc. Either that, or everyone is also mistaking me for a Colombian.

If all the immigration and customs officials in Colombia are bilingual, they're hiding it well. I've had a few who had trouble getting their point across and I speak a reasonable amount of Spanish.

It has nothing to do with having a tan and wearing long pants. Most Colombians can spot a Venezuelan 20 feet away. They can certainly pick out someone from the US. It's that way all around the world. Take a guy from Alabama and drop him in Chicago and everyone will know he's not from around there, before he opens his mouth.

As for being mistaken for Colombian reducing your risk of being victim of a crime, you're fooling yourself. Colombians rob Colombians all the time. Colombians who get robbed by guys with guns or knives don't give chase. There's also plenty of Colombians with plenty to steal, especially around La 70.

I'm not trying to trash you. Walking around believing everyone thinks you're Colombian is of no benefit.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383093]I just had a Facebook girl cry on me today. Here is the full story. I saw this 19-year-old Facebook chica for the first time today. I live in envigado and she comes from Bello. We had the standard Facebook-chica transaction: She arrived 40 minutes late. She is a smoking hot 19-year-old. The session was decent GFE, I finished with CIM. The entire session, including shower, lasted about 30 minutes. I give her the typical 200 k that I give to Facebook-chicas who deliver the standard GFE service. But she asked for 100 k more, I naturally denied this outranges request. She fed me all kind bullshit about how far Bello is from envigado, and she needs to find a place to stay, buy food. Etc. I have been in Medellin for 3 weeks, and I fucked 30+ Facebook chicas so I know this is all bullshit, I was firm with my decision. Then all the sudden she burst into tears, telling me how hard her life was. I can't handle a 19-year-old girl crying profusely in front of me, not over 28 dollars. I hopeless agreed to give her the extra 100 k peso. I can deal with mean and tough girls; I have dealt with lots of nasty girls in the past. But all it took was a few drops of teenage tear to open my wallet. I thought about the time when I was 19, I wish I could re-live those childish teenage years. Now I'm debating whether to call her back or not, she is one of the better looking ones. I like young girls, I don't take anyone who is over 21.18-21 is my ideal age range.[/QUOTE]Everything was okay until you said you're considering calling her back. I have no problem with giving a little extra to avoid a long, annoying conflict. Sometimes it's easier than dealing with the drama.

However, that should be where the story ends. Because now she knows she can get a minimum of 300 k next time, so she'll try for 400 k. Then 500,800, 1 million. It only goes up from there. Then it's not just when you see her. It's every week. Her mother's sick. Her bed is broken. Her dog need surgery.

My suggestion, if you decide to give in and pay the extra, is first pull out your phone and tell her to wait while you block her. Block her on WhatsApp and Facebook and then send her packing.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383101]That's what I mean by childish teenage years. The logic is simple, repeat business is worth more than one time scam. She can't see through this. Given how hot she is, I would definitely call her back at least once every week. Now I'm not too sure.[/QUOTE]That where guys get confused they see a pretty face and they think its a good girl. I can tell you these girls no matter what only care for the money. Its there job don't get confused. Especially in Medellin they more than likely even have a BF that sent them to work to get money. So don't make the mistake and think feel sorry for them. I might sound harsh but don't be stupid with your money.

This is the best post I've read on here in quite a while. Real talk, you lost your novice status after the first day. I like that you debunked several urban legends of this forum, including the one about Spanish is mandatory to pick up girls in Centro.

[QUOTE=Trilon;2383123]I read the last few hundred forum pages. Thanks to all the posters, especially PolloNegro, JjBee62, Tasss, and TheCarlAnthony. I specifically bookmarked and studied their content which helped me plan and visualize the details of my adventure.

I don't speak Spanish conversationally. I only know basic words and relied heavily on Google translate.

Day 1 - Landed, customs line was long due to two planes arriving at the same time. Afterwards, I immediately got a Claro sim at a small shop in the airport. 16 k for 1 GB data, working number, and 7 service days. I paid a little more at the airport but I wanted to get this crucial step out of the way. I ended up using 265 MB with Google maps, Chrome, WhatsApp, and Uber. My Airbnb (San Peter) had excellent WiFi for backing up touristy photos and videos online..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trilon;2383123]I read the last few hundred forum pages. Thanks to all the posters, especially PolloNegro, JjBee62, Tasss, and TheCarlAnthony. I specifically bookmarked and studied their content which helped me plan and visualize the details of my adventure.[/QUOTE]Dude I am both amazed and impressed. You left no stone unturned. You tried your hand at most of the mongering methods mentiioned here. You moved as if you had already been to the place 100 times. And not speaking Spanish! Most guys would have just left that 20 K at Amigas, but you had her rolling the tape back. Not that you could not afford to lose 20 K, but it is the principle of the thing. And I am a principles man.

That was a textbook trip that I doubt most newbies could repeat. You got your money's worth out of it and made that trip your bich.

Hello everyone,

I said I was going to report back as soon as I landed and got some action.

Medellin has surprised me quite a bit, it's no where near as ratchet as it sounds and many things are avoidable.

With the slightest of wit.

Arrived Mid afternoon from a transfer flight from Bogota, went through customs without a hitch. Just got super annoyed as the plane sat on the runway for 40 minutes while the flight itself is like 25 minutes <, w / e.

Checked into my non-chica friendly hotel. Will probably be switch hotels very soon due to noise, their safe box malfunctioned and I need to have PP visitors unless their apartment is available.

So, got settled and met up with my guide. He charges a tender price of 15 mIl per hour, and for someone with bullshit level Spanish, his translation help alone is well worth the money. Now onto the hoes.

It's been 12 hours and I've managed to bang 2 hoes through the flight exhaustion:

Chica 1 - I think her name was Mili or something along noses lines. She is a overtly Asian looking Colombiana.

But she said she's not any part Asian (as far as she knows), she is a stripper at the Barra Executivo en El Centro. May have overpaid by like 30 mil but I requested to taste her asshole, and that shit was fresh. Total 90 Mil for 30 minutes. 70 for her and the house and 20 more to eat that asshole. Not the best pussy I've had but her body is banging as far as the ass department. She won't be hard to spot if you go to that strip club and look for the face that looks mostly out of place LOL. I thought it was a good way to break myself into Colombia fucking this exotic looking Latina. Overall satisfied but won't repeat, need to spend my time here in culos.

Chica 2 - okay, Saturday nights is the night that every hoe parties til Sunday AM or spend with their kids. I had trouble locating a FB girl, at least one I've spoken to in the past for some much needed anal. Finally found a BBW Paisa in the LOS Colores neighboorhood that lets me fuck that asshole til there is shit everywhere. Anal is like 50% more on the propina, average 50 mil and so is chupa sin condon, I will be hunting better prices this week but 30 $ extra to get that done is a negligible dent in the booty-budget. Went to her apartment on 4th floor of a residential building, no sketch feeling even at 11:30 pm ish. Paid 170 Mil for some anal til she shat, chupa sin condom, and me eating it like groceries. That is perhaps an expensive date but I really needed to get that done, today tho I hope the 100 - 150 mil range can get me that culito but let's see. Her name was Sofia and her number can be found on PP, ends in 1099. I plan on trying to fuck that ass again but let see if I can get her down in prices.

Surprising, As an Asian guy, no one stared or called me names which is fucking great. Everyone seems to be hardworking and kind-hearted. There was one slight incident where a dude ran up on us, but later found out that he just smelled the non-average crippa we had on us, he wanted to try some. Jajajaja Police present well lit in downtown, and ATM's has guards packing heat or I feel relatively safe. Tho I've yet to stroll hoe central for poon yet. I can safely say at least so far, there are far far worst downtown with wayyyy more gunshots in the USA. Stay tuned for more action, hopefully it be all anal, but it's a challenge for sure with my limited Spanish.

Just as I was reading Trilon's report, the part about Parque Lleras, my buddy sent me this message. Threw me off because I guess some guy posted it in the Medellin section, but the first thing I noticed in the background was Rua dos Bombeiros, which is Brazilian Portuguese for FireFighter's Street.

[QUOTE=Trilon;2383123]I read the last few hundred forum pages. Thanks to all the posters, especially PolloNegro, JjBee62, Tasss, and TheCarlAnthony. I specifically bookmarked and studied their content which helped me plan and visualize the details of my adventure.

I don't speak Spanish conversationally. I only know basic words and relied heavily on Google translate.

Day 1 - Landed, customs line was long due to two planes arriving at the same time. Afterwards, I immediately got a Claro sim at a small shop in the airport. 16 k for 1 GB data, working number, and 7 service days. I paid a little more at the airport but I wanted to get this crucial step out of the way. I ended up using 265 MB with Google maps, Chrome, WhatsApp, and Uber. My Airbnb (San Peter) had excellent WiFi for backing up touristy photos and videos online.

I hopped on the 10 k bus to Centro which does go through the new tunnel. Sit on the right side for the best views. Arriving in Centro, I walked off the bus and was hit with the grittiness of the environment. I wasn't used to it. But, one week later, I left on that same bus back to the airport, and the area felt normal to me. As another poster pointed out, these are just normal people living their daily lives.

I walked through Plaza Botero and down Carrera 52 towards the San Antonio station. I saw several working girls but I just wanted to check-in and get settled. The metro to Estadio was packed but efficient.

After reaching my place, I got a $4 haircut, got cleaned up, then walked a few blocks to Aisha spa. Perfect location after a weary travel day. I got there 90 minutes before closing and the lineup was only three deep. Thankfully, two suited my tastes. I remember reading advice to guide your girl selection by how friendly she is and if you feel any chemistry in those first seconds. I picked the one I felt the most genuine warmth and interest from. When I entered the room, I greeted her with a loving hug and we got immediately down to business. Looks / Performance 7/8. I realize these ratings are unreliable because we all grade differently but some people might want numbers. 1 hour was 100 k, tipped 10 k. She wouldn't give me her WhatsApp and insisted I could only see her there...[/QUOTE]I think that's in the running for newbie trip report of the year. Excellent job of trying a bit of everything and finding what you liked best.

[QUOTE=TyDown;2383150]Hahahahahahahahahahaaaa that's right.[/QUOTE]For every newbie who learns the right mindset there's 5 who are going to act like they just won the lottery.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383269]Just as I was reading Trilon's report, the part about Parque Lleras, my buddy sent me this message. Threw me off because I guess some guy posted it in the Medellin section, but the first thing I noticed in the background was Rua dos Bombeiros, which is Brazilian Portuguese for FireFighter's Street.[/QUOTE]That's hilarious! Fits in perfectly for some guys. "I've already been robbed 9 times."

If she robs you once, or tries to jack up the price, or changes the service, you walk away. Take the loss and move on. You don't keep going back just because of the way she looks. That's like going back to the restaurant where you always get food poisoning just because the decor is great.

A lot to say but not too much that hasnt been shared before. Just these few notes that I felt worth mentioning after my first Medellin trip. *.

Stayed in an Air be&be in Poblado, close to La Strada / Hard Rock. Enjoyed being away from Parque Lleras but will definitely be in Laureles next time with a place that doesn't have security. Got tired of the dirty looks I would get when I was bringing back the chicas haha. *.

Facebook chicas. Over the last year I had gathered over a 100 on my page but I only took interest in about 6. I messaged those 6 every so often to let them know I was coming. All of them were so damn slow to respond (2-3 days) or just vanished once I got boots on the ground. Where things turned around was when I posted a killer city view picture, late in my Medellin trip, from Entre Maderos restaurant. Wow, a lot of out of the blue messages from many chicas in the days following that. Might be something to pursue. Oh and after I blew off the 6 that I was initially interested in, I would start receiving random other messages. I get the strong vibe that these chicas talk to each other and know who's in town looking for action. *.

El Centro. Definitely loved every minute of it! Hung out 3 different times. Chicas were easily down for 50 K a the local motel. I want to say I was quoted 25 K for the room. I spent another full night in El Centro at the bars behind the Botero Plaza museum. Met two 18 year old cousins that were super fun. They took me to the clubs where all the Venezuelans hang out (one block away). A lot of cuties and no tourists. We bought a bottle for 50 K and I was enjoying the night. Took the more fun cousin home for 100 K. GREAT NIGHT. Oh and never felt concerned about my safety and I was stumbling around until 2 am. Plenty of police in the area. Kinda reminded me of a dirty 6th street in Austin. Haha.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2383174]Everything was okay until you said you're considering calling her back. I have no problem with giving a little extra to avoid a long, annoying conflict. Sometimes it's easier than dealing with the drama.

However, that should be where the story ends. Because now she knows she can get a minimum of 300 k next time, so she'll try for 400 k. Then 500,800, 1 million. It only goes up from there. Then it's not just when you see her. It's every week. Her mother's sick. Her bed is broken. Her dog need surgery.

My suggestion, if you decide to give in and pay the extra, is first pull out your phone and tell her to wait while you block her. Block her on WhatsApp and Facebook and then send her packing.[/QUOTE]Good advice. I have already blocked her. It's a shame though, she is one of the better looking ones.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2383167]They're not mistaking you for Colombian, Mexican, Costa Rican or Saudi Arabian. They're speaking their native language, rather than hoping that the tourist in front of them speaks English, instead of German, French, Dutch, Portuguese, etc. Either that, or everyone is also mistaking me for a Colombian.

If all the immigration and customs officials in Colombia are bilingual, they're hiding it well. I've had a few who had trouble getting their point across and I speak a reasonable amount of Spanish.

It has nothing to do with having a tan and wearing long pants. Most Colombians can spot a Venezuelan 20 feet away. They can certainly pick out someone from the US. It's that way all around the world. Take a guy from Alabama and drop him in Chicago and everyone will know he's not from around there, before he opens his mouth.

As for being mistaken for Colombian reducing your risk of being victim of a crime, you're fooling yourself. Colombians rob Colombians all the time. Colombians who get robbed by guys with guns or knives don't give chase. There's also plenty of Colombians with plenty to steal, especially around La 70.

I'm not trying to trash you. Walking around believing everyone thinks you're Colombian is of no benefit.[/QUOTE]It's not what he believes that's the issue. If he can truly pass as a Colombian looks and dress wise, than the risk of him being the victim of a crime versus an obvious foreigner (blond hair / blue eyes, etc) is going to be less. He will not be immune from being the victim of a crime, but the odds of it happening will be less. Imagine a thief looking for someone to rob, who would be a better target, a Colombian or a foreigner?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2383203]I like that you debunked several urban legends of this forum, including the one about Spanish is mandatory to pick up girls in Centro.[/QUOTE]But do you really think that the average reader of ISG is such a smart and capable traveller as him? I recommend CAUTION to others.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2383174]Her mother's sick. Her bed is broken. [i] Her dog need surgery[/i]..[/QUOTE]ROFL. The last is the best. One day I will hear also that.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2383268]Hello everyone,

I said I was going to report back as soon as I landed and got some action.

Surprising, As an Asian guy, no one stared or called me names which is fucking great. Everyone seems to be hardworking and kind-hearted. There was one slight incident where a dude ran up on us, but later found out that he just smelled the non-average crippa we had on us, he wanted to try some. Jajajaja Police present well lit in downtown, and ATM's has guards packing heat or I feel relatively safe. Tho I've yet to stroll hoe central for poon yet. I can safely say at least so far, there are far far worst downtown with wayyyy more gunshots in the USA. Stay tuned for more action, hopefully it be all anal, but it's a challenge for sure with my limited Spanish.[/QUOTE]So you walk around with Crippa on you. That's some really bad as weed, laced with drugs, etc. It's not wise to be carrying that around with you, or any other drugs for that matter, but each to his own.

I know that Cali is known for this but I was wondering if anybody has recommendations for any negritas on fb?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2383203]This is the best post I've read on here in quite a while. Real talk, you lost your novice status after the first day. I like that you debunked several urban legends of this forum, including the one about Spanish is mandatory to pick up girls in Centro.[/QUOTE]I think Trilon was very lucky in succeeding with the El Centro SW's with no Spanish speaking skills, I think a couple of more days there and he might have a different opinion of things.

It's not a problem picking girls up using a translator as there isn't much to be said beforehand. However once in the room, a malicious Chica could cause all kinds of problems and trying to sort them out on a translator might be very difficult.

Again, I think he was very lucky and if your suggesting that others should be picking up girls in El Centro with no Spanish speaking skills, well I personally advise against it, but each to his own.

No, I don't think the average ISG reader is as capable as this guy. Yes, I also recommend caution.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2383439]But do you really think that the average reader of ISG is such a smart and capable traveller as him? I recommend CAUTION to others.

ROFL. The last is the best. One day I will hear also that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383118]That should be common sense. If these chicks are as poor as everyone makes them out to be, do you seriously think they are going to be using the 300 K or whatever per week that guys are giving them to take taxis for actual taxis? No. They are going to take the cheap way so that they can spend that money where it is most needed.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Why do you think that they are always late? Because the bus or Metro takes longer than a direct taxi. And because they either sleep later than they should or because her previous "date" ran long.

It's not for everybody. I agree with that 100%.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383446]I think Trilon was very lucky in succeeding with the El Centro SW's with no Spanish speaking skills, I think a couple of more days there and he might have a different opinion of things.

It's not a problem picking girls up using a translator as there isn't much to be said beforehand. However once in the room, a malicious Chica could cause all kinds of problems and trying to sort them out on a translator might be very difficult.

Again, I think he was very lucky and if your suggesting that others should be picking up girls in El Centro with no Spanish speaking skills, well I personally advise against it, but each to his own.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zenax1;2383445]I know that Cali is known for this but I was wondering if anybody has recommendations for any negritas on fb?[/QUOTE]Just beware, if you're not black or you don't speak Spanish, they will most definitely upsell you until they become comfortable with you. Many of the darker girls in centro get less dates than the fair skinned or white chicas, so when you go looking for girls that get less dates, they know that you are into a specialty & they will feed off of that, even so to a point where I have seen many of them lose dates due to bring too pushy or overpriced, but the Afro Latinas are definitely in Medellin, just visit Centro, pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383405]Good advice. I have already blocked her. It's a shame though, she is one of the better looking ones.[/QUOTE]Well, read this and you will see where these things can end up.

[URL]https://www.caracoltv.com/regias/actualidad/el-empezo-acosarme-paola-ariza-rompe-el-silencio-y-da-su-version-de-los-hechos-ie4487[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383446]I think Trilon was very lucky in succeeding with the El Centro SW's with no Spanish speaking skills, I think a couple of more days there and he might have a different opinion of things.

It's not a problem picking girls up using a translator as there isn't much to be said beforehand. However once in the room, a malicious Chica could cause all kinds of problems and trying to sort them out on a translator might be very difficult.

Again, I think he was very lucky and if your suggesting that others should be picking up girls in El Centro with no Spanish speaking skills, well I personally advise against it, but each to his own.[/QUOTE]Trilon is consistent in that he always took the girl back to his room, not a short time hotel. He is also paying higher prices because of that.

Even if a chica is not malicious, there still could be communication problem in the room. Many want to be paid before, some will renegotiate in the room.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2383268]I can safely say at least so far, there are far far worst downtown with wayyyy more gunshots in the USA. Stay tuned for more action, hopefully it be all anal, but it's a challenge for sure with my limited Spanish.[/QUOTE]I visited el centro twice so far, once during the day and once during night time. I totally agree that el centro feels a lot of safer than the seedy part of a major US city. It has about 1/10 of homeless people compare to San Francisco. My issue is that I have absolutely zero Spanish speaking skills. I visited all the strip joint near parque botero, it's way cheaper than gusto and la isla, but the ambiance is not nearly as nice. There are a few hot girls (most of them are below a 4 in my book), but there is no way I can google translate her back to my place, especially at 11 pm with an iPhone X.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383440]So you walk around with Crippa on you. That's some really bad as weed, laced with drugs, etc. It's not wise to be carrying that around with you, or any other drugs for that matter, but each to his own.[/QUOTE]I was in Lleras on Friday night, there were cops walking around with drug sniffing dogs. A few Chicas got caught for carrying Tutsi. I had about a gram and half on me and I was scared shitless.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383534]My issue is that I have absolutely zero Spanish speaking skills. I visited all the strip joint near parque botero, it's way cheaper than gusto and la isla, but the ambiance is not nearly as nice. There are a few hot girls (most of them are below a 4 in my book), but there is no way I can google translate her back to my place, especially at 11 pm with an iPhone X.[/QUOTE]I guess you are talking about Conejita's. You definitely can not google translate there because there is no cell phone signal down in that dungeon. Always tickles me when foreigners come trying to do things a different way. You don't see locals trying to whisk these chicks off to another part of town.

Had a Photoprepago flake on me, wasted 22 bucks on a love motel for the day, ended up in Casa New Life.

Paid 180 total for 2 leches, una en culito, una en coño. Forgot the chick's name but she's a thick brunette with a grade A anus. They are all equally thick, just my thing.

80 house fee, 100 propina for anal duro.

Seems like that's the price range for anal, hopefully I can find some more for cheaper. Sundays seems like a bust as shit close early.

And not many chicas on the hoe sites, hopefully the working girls work on the weekdays.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2383167]As for being mistaken for Colombian reducing your risk of being victim of a crime, you're fooling yourself. Colombians rob Colombians all the time.[/QUOTE]I have always said that if thieves in these different countires were waiting for only foreigners to rob, then they would starve to death. A thief does not care who they steal from.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2383498]Well, read this and you will see where these things can end up.

[URL]https://www.caracoltv.com/regias/actualidad/el-empezo-acosarme-paola-ariza-rompe-el-silencio-y-da-su-version-de-los-hechos-ie4487[/URL][/QUOTE]Does she honestly believe that it is normal some guy will pass out tons of money to a random chick only for the sake of helping her out? I don't know what he believed, but the phrase about a fool and his money comes to mind. You don't need to send money to get love gentlemen; love is free. And if you are shelling out money, then be clear that it is going towards the rental of pussy so you won't wind up like this guy when you get into town. Better yet, pay as you go to avoid any confusion.

This mf is even funnier with the memes and twitter feed!
[url]https://www.caracoltv.com/regias/virales/y-esta-por-que-es-que-es-famosa-paola-ariza-se-convierte-en-tendencia-en-twitter-ie4487[/url]

You told me that your dad was sick! Yeah, he got sick when he seen me come home with these 6 million pesos that you sent!

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2383498]Well, read this and you will see where these things can end up.

[URL]https://www.caracoltv.com/regias/actualidad/el-empezo-acosarme-paola-ariza-rompe-el-silencio-y-da-su-version-de-los-hechos-ie4487[/URL][/QUOTE]I will be in Baranquilla in 2 weeks. I wish she could be trusted. I'd pay for that--chick is banging'!

Sheesh! That's what I want.

Check her out on Facebook:

Paola Ariza Oficial.

But, yeah, the broader point: be clear with communication, pay after the deeds are done! And don't take any drama too public like this guy did. That's just going to create more problems IMO.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383535]I was in Lleras on Friday night, there were cops walking around with drug sniffing dogs. A few Chicas got caught for carrying Tutsi. I had about a gram and half on me and I was scared shitless.[/QUOTE]According to your last two posts your walking around Medellin with an expensive " I"-phone, drugs, and no Spanish speaking skills? Almost sounds like your bragging, but I don't think that's the case.

I would think twice about carrying around an expensive "I" phone with you, there have been several posts about phones being stolen.

In regards to carrying a "stash" on you. Not a good idea being a foreigner as crooked cops will extort money from you, where as a Colombian may just have there stash taken away from them and walk. I have seen this in the bus station where a drug sniffing dog discovered some pot on someone, it was confiscated with no repercussions for the Colombian. However a foreigner in Parque Lleras, and around that area, will most probably not just walk away unscathed. There have been posts about this as well.

So my advice to you is, keep your "I" phone and stash in your room.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383613]I have always said that if thieves in these different countires were waiting for only foreigners to rob, then they would starve to death. A thief does not care who they steal from.[/QUOTE]All due respect Mr. E, but a smart thief will steal from what they perceive or think will be a better mark for them. In the context of the original post, it had to do with Colombian versus foreigner as a victim, not Colombians solely as victims.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2383534] I totally agree that el centro feels a lot of safer than the seedy part of a major US city. It has about 1/10 of homeless people compare to San Francisco. [/QUOTE]You are in a major tourist area that has been cleaned up pretty well. You won't be able to make the correct comparison until you have visited the seedy part of El Centro.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2383684]You are in a major tourist area that has been cleaned up pretty well. You won't be able to make the correct comparison until you have visited the seedy part of El Centro.[/QUOTE]Boy, I agree there, my 1st trip my date had our taxi go look for weed at 2 am in parts of Centro that were a cross between "Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas" meets "Zombieland".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383618]Does she honestly believe that it is normal some guy will pass out tons of money to a random chick only for the sake of helping her out? I don't know what he believed, but the phrase about a fool and his money comes to mind. You don't need to send money to get love gentlemen; love is free. And if you are shelling out money, then be clear that it is going towards the rental of pussy so you won't wind up like this guy when you get into town. Better yet, pay as you go to avoid any confusion.

This mf is even funnier with the memes and twitter feed!
[url]https://www.caracoltv.com/regias/virales/y-esta-por-que-es-que-es-famosa-paola-ariza-se-convierte-en-tendencia-en-twitter-ie4487[/url]

You told me that your dad was sick! Yeah, he got sick when he seen me come home with these 6 million pesos that you sent![/QUOTE]It amazes me how ignorant some of these men can be. It also makes me wonder the age gap on some of these "relationships" you guys think you have.

I am a 37 year old who lives in Medellin and my wife is 30. That is quite a large age gap IMO. If you're 50 or 60 please do not think a woman under 30 is in love with you for anything other than your money.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2381642]Are you sure Juliana Nochety isn't a tranny?[/QUOTE]I have never seen her. So I don't know. I just wanted to share links where the Friends list was not private to help others build their list.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381814]My issue is that I have a Visa Debit card from Scotiabank, never owned a credit card in my life & I've never used this card at a ATM ever overseas either so I'm scared it won't work & I'm left stranded in Colombia with no pesos for 2 weeks. I'm probably just paranoid but I think I will just bring some USA the & try to use the ATM's & hope I can get cash out.[/QUOTE]I setup a tangerine account (owned by Scotiabank) because the ATM fee for international ATM was much lower. I used it at a variety of banks and never once had an issue.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2383684]You are in a major tourist area that has been cleaned up pretty well. You won't be able to make the correct comparison until you have visited the seedy part of El Centro.[/QUOTE]True. I don't think I have any desire to visit the seedy part of El Centro, parque botero area is already seedy enough for me.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2383684]You are in a major tourist area that has been cleaned up pretty well. You won't be able to make the correct comparison until you have visited the seedy part of El Centro.[/QUOTE]This is by far the best and most direct way to score hoes in Medellin.

Thought I would test the another site this morning, got to Botero square early around 9 am, immediately spotted a cute Venezuelan quoted 40 Mil for 30 minutes, and 80 Mil for str8 up ANAL-duro. Immediately proceeded to her motel of choice on the next block, 16 Mil for 30 min room. Whole thing went by without a hitch.

Went to get a haircut, then found another one, Paisa, she wanted 50 Mil for 30 minutes and 30 Mill extra for anal, again, came out to be exactly 80 Mill again, got it done. This one is standing directly under the stair case of her motel, didn't even check my ID like the one from the AM. Even rolled up some premo-strain name weed to smoke her out directly on the Street in front of the motel. This cannot feel easier.

I spent yesterday basically being played by PP-hoe that never showed up and have had FB hoes that I've spend months talking to bail on me and my time. This Street action is by far the easiest way to go. I cannot imagine what this feel like if I spoke some real Spanish. Future goals!

Not once did I feel sketched out, homeless people are abundance but yet to witness a crazy one wielding a weapon etc. Again, I didn't flash dinero or my phone. I didn't try to look more out of place than my baby-face and Chinese-ness already is. Honestly, no one has came up to me with anything but kindness or the curiosity of to hit my joint LOL.

Conclusion: I rolled this El Centro dice twice in one day, maybe I got lucky, or just its Not that bad at all. I am far most sketched in ¨gentrified Brooklyn¨. Tho, I have no reason to go to that area after 6 and Will area that's prolly one of the more risky things I can do.

Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.

Sorry to read your bad experience. But I have to ask why did you pay her 200 k up front? Did she ask for it? Rule of thumb is never pay before services are rendered. I know some guys will disagree with me but I always discuss price and services before meeting. Never pay before and if she ask for the money before then consider ending it right there.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895]Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383618]Does she honestly believe that it is normal some guy will pass out tons of money to a random chick only for the sake of helping her out? I don't know what he believed, but the phrase about a fool and his money comes to mind. You don't need to send money to get love gentlemen; love is free. And if you are shelling out money, then be clear that it is going towards the rental of pussy so you won't wind up like this guy when you get into town. Better yet, pay as you go to avoid any confusion.

This mf is even funnier with the memes and twitter feed!
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You told me that your dad was sick! Yeah, he got sick when he seen me come home with these 6 million pesos that you sent![/QUOTE]Why not? "Normal" guys do it all the time. I've seen guys drop $500 practically every night on the same stripper in a US club without getting anything. My ex roomie has a guy who's been giving her about $500 per week for 2 1/2 years. That's not counting the extra for birthday and Christmas. Overall he's probably getting close to spending $100 k on her and he's never even asked to meet her.

There's probably $20 billion a year just given to women by guys who think they're buying love. A lot of them turn into stalkers because they think the money should have bought them something and get pissed when they find out that pussy wasn't for sale.

Tried to explain it to one guy, who went nuts, when he found out his favorite webcam girl had a boyfriend. I told him, for what he had spent, he could have spent 6 months in Medellin and fucked 100 women who looked just as good. Probably half would be happy to marry him.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895]Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I have no experience with Fay-Boo Chicas, but what a pain in the ass it seems to be with new ones. It's nice to have room service available on a moments notice, but sometimes the drama is not worth it. Maybe in the future with first time Fay-Boo Chicas you need to be more specific that the price includes transport. I would also tell them that you always pay after the session versus beforehand. If they balk at this before coming over it might indicate a "malicious" Chica who will try to game you just like this one as they seem to be very adept at this.

And how the math went from 13 K to 30 K sounds like Colombian logic (ill-logical), maybe it was round-trip or perhaps she thought one way and if you gave her the money beforehand she might ask for the same amount for transport at the end of the session. You were wise to cut your losses of less than $ 10 and show her the door, as it most probably would of been a terrible session for you as you surmised.

I really think they need a separate Fay-Boo (Facebook) section organized so posters like yourself can post your experiences with them versus being buried within thousands of reports.

I'm surprised I don't see much reports on parque Lleras in comparison as the reports I have seen on fb girls and el centro. Is it my imagination an area of bars and clubs has to be loaded with non pros and pros I understand they charging a bit more in those areas but there has to be some treasures.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383628]According to your last two posts your walking around Medellin with an expensive " I"-phone, drugs, and no Spanish speaking skills? Almost sounds like your bragging, but I don't think that's the case.

I would think twice about carrying around an expensive "I" phone with you, there have been several posts about phones being stolen.

In regards to carrying a "stash" on you. Not a good idea being a foreigner as crooked cops will extort money from you, where as a Colombian may just have there stash taken away from them and walk. I have seen this in the bus station where a drug sniffing dog discovered some pot on someone, it was confiscated with no repercussions for the Colombian. However a foreigner in Parque Lleras, and around that area, will most probably not just walk away unscathed. There have been posts about this as well.

So my advice to you is, keep your "I" phone and stash in your room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. I'm definitely not bragging.

One of my friend actually had his iPhone XS stolen in gusto. My phone is heavily insured and I have a backup iPhone with an extra sim. The reason I carry my iPhone is for iCloud syncing consistency (I take lots of photos and videos when I'm out partying) and for high quality pictures. As for my stash, this is my first time seeming cops walking around a park with drug sniffing dogs. I will definitely think twice before I walk around with my stash on me. Next time I will probably hide them somewhere inside gusto before I venture out into the park.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384027]Thanks for the post. I'm definitely not bragging.

One of my friend actually had his iPhone XS stolen in gusto. My phone is heavily insured and I have a backup iPhone with an extra sim. The reason I carry my iPhone is for iCloud syncing consistency (I take lots of photos and videos when I'm out partying) and for high quality pictures. As for my stash, this is my first time seeming cops walking around a park with drug sniffing dogs. I will definitely think twice before I walk around with my stash on me. Next time I will probably hide them somewhere inside gusto before I venture out into the park.[/QUOTE]The new government in Colombia is very very very anti-marijuana. The rules were relaxed a while back, by the old government. Now, its going the way you do not want it to go.

My taxi got pulled over last year for no reason--other than they saw a gringo in the car and tried a shakedown. This was at 145 AM coming back from Luna Lunera to my place in Poblado. They emptied my pockets, and made me take off my shoes on the side of a major highway--2 motorcycle cops on 2 motorcycles. They asked me if I had any drugs, then asked again if I had marijuana on me. I had to show a copy of my passport--all while 1 cop had his hand on his gun and the other searched and questioned me on the side of a highway. This was sketchy and no joke. I speak Spanish-pretty fluently and was able to talk to them and make the situation less scary and messed up. They checked the taxi driver's papers and searched all around my seat-passenger front--but not anywhere else. They let me go with nothing happening once they saw.

My usual chica who brought weed to my hotel the 1st afternoon specifically asked me if she could come early PM since she was carrying for me and was afraid to travel after dark with it. She told me that under no circumstances should I take weed out of the room. She was kind of afraid to bring it for me-but we have seen each other several times before and she new I would offer her 20-30 KCOP propina--just for the delivery. He explained how the new government is really anti-weed and has instructed cops to bust people to raise revenue.

So, be happy you got weed in Colombia (however you got it). And only have it in your room! Better still, do like I do-and get a room with a balcony on a (no pun intended) higher floor of a building so you don't smell up the room.

I do travel with my vape pen-and nobody knows what that is-I even pulled it from my pocket and showed it to the cop-I said its tobacco-and the guy just looked at me and said other pocket while pointing to my other pocket that had my little bit of cash in it-maybe 25 k. I spent my money at Luna Lunera (love that place) and only had enough extra for the taxi and like 10 kcop or something beside that. Once they saw I was clean and had no cash even for them to steal-I was let go. Whole process took a little less than 10 minutes.

Its not your country, you are completely at their mercy with NO rights even if you think you are right. Don't be greedy-keep it in your room!

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384000]I'm surprised I don't see much reports on parque Lleras in comparison as the reports I have seen on fb girls and el centro. Is it my imagination an area of bars and clubs has to be loaded with non pros and pros I understand they charging a bit more in those areas but there has to be some treasures.[/QUOTE]Parque Lleras notes from last weeks trip.

Dalia. Met her sitting on the curb around 2 am. Small brunette spinner. Had a drink at the local drink selling shop with some bar stools in the back. She was sweet, knew she wouldn't be a problem. 200 K. Back to my place for a few more drinks and fun. She stuck around almost 2 hours and was working at her other job at 7:30 am, or at least that's when she texted that she arrived. Loca.

2 set of chicas offered a threesome for 180 K. They were cute but one couldn't shut her mouth. She even said to me "I should probably just stop talking now". Haha. I passed.

Last night. Was in London's. Spotted a chica that I was eyeing earlier in the week. Her name was Sara, 29. Bought her a beer. She said thank you 3 times. Figured that was a good sign. Had some good energy and she was downing the free sippy cup tequila shots. We agreed on the 200 k and bought 4 beers at the store and headed back in the taxi. Was thinking it was going to be a kick ass night when we walked in and she asked for money up front. I said I never do that and she was like "just put it on the counter". I declined and told her that it was time to go. She flipped and I said get your crap. Walked her downstairs and she wanted 20 k for a taxi. I gave her 10 k, the amount to get back to Parque Lleras. Now in my defense, I didn't think I had to tell anyone that I don't pay up front as that hadn't been an issue ever before in Colombia. But maybe with her being 29, she had been burned before. I just know the beers I bought for her tasted great after she left.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2383821]This is by far the best and most direct way to score hoes in Medellin.

Thought I would test the another site this morning, got to Botero square early around 9 am, immediately spotted a cute Venezuelan quoted 40 Mil for 30 minutes, and 80 Mil for str8 up ANAL-duro. Immediately proceeded to her motel of choice on the next block, 16 Mil for 30 min room. Whole thing went by without a hitch.

Went to get a haircut, then found another one, Paisa, she wanted 50 Mil for 30 minutes and 30 Mill extra for anal, again, came out to be exactly 80 Mill again, got it done. This one is standing directly under the stair case of her motel, didn't even check my ID like the one from the AM. Even rolled up some premo-strain name weed to smoke her out directly on the Street in front of the motel. This cannot feel easier.

I spent yesterday basically being played by PP-hoe that never showed up and have had FB hoes that I've spend months talking to bail on me and my time. This Street action is by far the easiest way to go. I cannot imagine what this feel like if I spoke some real Spanish. Future goals!.[/QUOTE]I have a Korean friend who spends approximately six months a year in Medellin and stays in El Centro. Whenever I am with him, all eyes are on him. The reason is because most Colombians have never seen an Asian before and he has told me that people routinely ask him if he eats, cats, dogs, and rats.

In your case, you will be getting a lot of attention, not only because your Asian, but also because you like smoking hooch, a Colombian thing to do. Brush up on your Spanish and before you know it you will have a whole stable of El Centro SW's offering back door services that will be ready and waiting for you.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2384054]Parque Lleras notes from last weeks trip.

Dalia. Met her sitting on the curb around 2 am. Small brunette spinner. Had a drink at the local drink selling shop with some bar stools in the back. She was sweet, knew she wouldn't be a problem. 200 K. Back to my place for a few more drinks and fun. She stuck around almost 2 hours and was working at her other job at 7:30 am, or at least that's when she texted that she arrived. Loca.

2 set of chicas offered a threesome for 180 K. They were cute but one couldn't shut her mouth. She even said to me "I should probably just stop talking now". Haha. I passed.

Last night. Was in London's. Spotted a chica that I was eyeing earlier in the week. Her name was Sara, 29. Bought her a beer. She said thank you 3 times. Figured that was a good sign. Had some good energy and she was downing the free sippy cup tequila shots. We agreed on the 200 k and bought 4 beers at the store and headed back in the taxi. Was thinking it was going to be a kick ass night when we walked in and she asked for money up front. I said I never do that and she was like "just put it on the counter". I declined and told her that it was time to go. She flipped and I said get your crap. Walked her downstairs and she wanted 20 k for a taxi. I gave her 10 k, the amount to get back to Parque Lleras. Now in my defense, I didn't think I had to tell anyone that I don't pay up front as that hadn't been an issue ever before in Colombia. But maybe with her being 29, she had been burned before. I just know the beers I bought for her tasted great after she left.[/QUOTE]Thanks my guy! That's what I'm talking about got a trip coming up in November and I like a report like that to get me more juiced LOL.

I saw her about two times when she first got in the business. One time she brought me something to drink. Allowed me to pick from the two she brought. Another time she was in class and left to come see me. She used to be sweet and tranquilo. And if you like spinners, she is definitely one. This was about 2 years ago. I paid her 150 K then. I guess it's not atypical that they are in the business for a while and become very hardened. Too bad.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895]Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384000]I'm surprised I don't see much reports on parque Lleras in comparison as the reports I have seen on fb girls and el centro. Is it my imagination an area of bars and clubs has to be loaded with non pros and pros I understand they charging a bit more in those areas but there has to be some treasures.[/QUOTE]I actually pay cheaper there and prefer the non pros. In those other places charge so much eg. La Isla is like min 200. In parque I got a great girl for 40 and was almost all night until 6 am.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384027]Thanks for the post. I'm definitely not bragging.

One of my friend actually had his iPhone XS stolen in gusto. My phone is heavily insured and I have a backup iPhone with an extra sim. The reason I carry my iPhone is for iCloud syncing consistency (I take lots of photos and videos when I'm out partying) and for high quality pictures. As for my stash, this is my first time seeming cops walking around a park with drug sniffing dogs. I will definitely think twice before I walk around with my stash on me. Next time I will probably hide them somewhere inside gusto before I venture out into the park.[/QUOTE]Turkey bags which are a nylon material kill 100% of scent. Combine part of one with a belt with a hidden zipper and no man or beast will be aware of your stash. The cops are only looking for a small bribe. You have bribed cops before haven't you?

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Guido88;2384103]Turkey bags which are a nylon material kill 100% of scent. Combine part of one with a belt with a hidden zipper and no man or beast will be aware of your stash. The cops are only looking for a small bribe. You have bribed cops before haven't you?

Guido88.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Where can I buy turkey bags in Medellin?

I have bribed the airport authorities in Kenya; I didn't have the required yellow fever shots, they wouldn't let me in the country. I also bribed cops once or twice in Russia and Eastern Europe. Those situations are all out of desperation, I didn't enjoy them at all. I always start the bribe with 40 dollars and see where it goes. I will be extra careful with what I carry in Medellin. However, if the situation arises, what is the typical bribing amount? Is it in pesos or in dollars?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383629]All due respect Mr. E, but a smart thief will steal from what they perceive or think will be a better mark for them. In the context of the original post, it had to do with Colombian versus foreigner as a victim, not Colombians solely as victims.[/QUOTE]All due respect Surfer, but most thieves aren't smart.

However, if we want to stick with the "large, white, dark haired, tan gringos are easily mistaken for Colombians" story, I have a question or two. I fit that description and I don't believe anyone ever thought I was Colombian. There was 1 Dutch backpacker who tried to ask me directions in very poor Spanish. He admitted he didn't think I was Colombian, but he wasn't sure.

Question 1: How does a large gringo (part of the original description) pass for Colombian? Even at my skinniest, I'm still 40# heavier and 6" taller than practically everyone in Colombia. I've also never seen a Colombian in my age range who even vaguely resembles me.

Question 2: Assuming we've got the whole country baffled about our nationality, what estrato do all these confused Colombians put us in? Whether we're walking around Parque Lleras or Parque de LOS Periodistas, they've got to be thinking we're at least estrato 4 or better. Not many of us can pass for estrato 1 or 2. And 1 thing Colombians do pay attention is a person's estrato.

So, with all these poly-sci university students, who take up street crime between classes, roaming around, choosing the best targets, are they going to pass up a middle-aged, wealthy (easily confused for) Colombian, who's clearly not from the neighborhood in hopes of finding a cargo shorts wearing, blonde hair, blue eyed gringo?

Yes. Gringos are sometimes targeted. However, they're more likely to be targeted for acting like gringos, rather than looking like gringos.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383967]I have no experience with Fay-Boo Chicas, but what a pain in the ass it seems to be with new ones. It's nice to have room service available on a moments notice, but sometimes the drama is not worth it. Maybe in the future with first time Fay-Boo Chicas you need to be more specific that the price includes transport. I would also tell them that you always pay after the session versus beforehand. If they balk at this before coming over it might indicate a "malicious" Chica who will try to game you just like this one as they seem to be very adept at this.

And how the math went from 13 K to 30 K sounds like Colombian logic (ill-logical), maybe it was round-trip or perhaps she thought one way and if you gave her the money beforehand she might ask for the same amount for transport at the end of the session. You were wise to cut your losses of less than $ 10 and show her the door, as it most probably would of been a terrible session for you as you surmised.[/QUOTE]The OP was trying to get over on her. Plain and simple. Had he told her beforehand that her taxi money would come out of the 200 k by being upfront and straightforward with her instead of being purposely deceptive, she probably would have not even wasted her time coming over (or she could have at least made a decision if the cut into her money was worth it).

It's mostly understood that if you tell a chica you are giving her "X" that you will also pick up her taxi so that it doesn't come out of "X" and that she actually leaves with "X". The most you will ever pay is 30-50 k ($9-15 USD) for a chicas taxi. There is no running scam between taxi drivers and chicas to flees gringos out of inflated taxi fees, LOL.

Would you tell an escort in Sex Prison: I know you advertised as 300hr, but I am deducting $20 for the gas I burned to get to your outcall?

That is why there is no need for a separate forum dedicated to how to deal with "Fay-Boo" chicas. They are all the same damn chicas, lmao! One guy will see what another guys posts and say to himself "duh! Just don't do what that guy did!" His experience will be vastly different than the previous guy's experience. Some guy is going to get that Sofi Perez sweet nectar: the OP missed out playing Cheap Charlie.

Im going to stop giving away all this game. It actually works in my favor the more you guys eff this up.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2384059]In your case, you will be getting a lot of attention, not only because your Asian, but also because you like smoking hooch, a Colombian thing to do. Brush up on your Spanish and before you know it you will have a whole stable of El Centro SW's offering back door services that will be ready and waiting for you.[/QUOTE]In reality, I have gotten significantly less looks than I routinely got in places in Spain or Morocco which has made my experience here extremely satisfying. On the few occasions where I got a look from, the stares were very short and amounted to nothing, except for the times where they just wanted a hit from my joint, which as a pothead, feels gratifying lmao. Yes, a few very friendly taxi drivers asked why China eats rats, entirely out of curiosity no malicious body language or voice. Explained it as well as I can, wish I had the chance the try to give real feedback LOL. I also look fuckin ridiculous young.

Example, after the two botero girls, banged another Venezuelan Hoe of PP, she initially was quite hesitant as my profile picture and real face don't exceed age of 16 no matter how I try. She asked to see my "cedula" when I arrive in incall, first picture. 80 mil for hour 2 leches, 1 x in ass, 1 x in vagin. Cheapest backdoor action I found outside deez streets, tipped her 20 mil for chupa sin condom, she's not perfect in the face but certainly a goooood fuck.

Got done, went to Don Diablo steakhouse in Poblado, huge recommend for dry age steak lovers. Decided to hit up Fase Dos, to see how bad the hoes can get. Arrived at the club, I see older gringos getting a lot of attention from girls. Nobody, I mean, nobody gave me any looks to try to get me to fuck them. Until picture-2, Isabella from Cali, bothered to talk to me, after showing her my NYC cedula, came a huge wave of curiosity as they all thought I really ain't suppose to be there lmao. She was real friendly with me as far as giving me public lap dances and letting me plant on face on her booty while setting at the chairs by the bar. Decided I had to taste that asshole, so went for the motel experience. No anal tho as expected. 250 mil, 40 more because I used a card, should of brought a tit more cash but whatever's. This chick was plenty wet, hot and ready. I'the have to say, tho she bad, not sure if it's worth the money here in Colombia. I plant to scour deez streets again to really try to look for the baddd once, knowing this city thus far, it's not out of the question.

I asked both putas de calle from the AM to see why they don't work in casas, both said fuck the money split between her pussy and the pimp essentially. So I'the like to think that hoes work the venues they are close to and work every situation they can. I have also been very local with my attires, skinny jeans and a v-neck, deep physical pockets on side of v-neck as hidden pockets, and carry a fake wallet with only small bills for mug-bait and would wait until my back is to an electronic store in Centro before whipping out my iPhone6, I give nooo papaya, never gave it. It's like survival strategy just travelling anywhere especially in cities.

Paris for example, is no cake walk some parts and some hours just like Medellin.

As far as Spanish, I'the say I'm comfy asking hoes exactly what I want done, sexual positions (en Quattro etc) and can negotiate, but once we get to the motel it becomes a game of typing into translator for small talk. I crave the talking between me and the locals as much as I craved the inner walls of their assholes. It's going to be heavy Spanish learning when I back, let's see how it spans out this trip and how much I manage to retain.

Conclusion: I think I've been getting less bad vibes on deez streets cause I don't give of the horny man vibe, more like a lost boy wandering these streetz, I can continue to blend in and move in the shadows but as many pointed out, if you get targeted, it's just your day to give it up, chinos, gringos, rolos, paisa's alike if a robber sized up something to be gained, that dear old papaya.

*can't upload another picture, feels like a bug will try on next report.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2384185]The OP was trying to get over on her. Plain and simple. Had he told her beforehand that her taxi money would come out of the 200 k by being upfront and straightforward with her instead of being purposely deceptive, she probably would have not even wasted her time coming over (or she could have at least made a decision if the cut into her money was worth it).

flees

the OP missed out playing Cheap Charlie.

Im going to stop giving away all this game. It actually works in my favor the more you guys eff this up 😊[/QUOTE]Since you have so much "game". What does "200. Ni mas ni menos" mean to you? Taxi and dinner were discussed before we even made the cita, and she declined. Once I sent her the screenshot of her agreeing to 200 k COP, she apologized and asked to come back over and continued to text me for the next few days. Re-read my OP slower this time. Next time I'll try to type a little slower for you. I wasn't trying to "Fleece" anyone out of anything. She changed the rules once she got there and that's when I ended it.

It's so easy for you keyboard warriors to dissect a post only to try to make yourself like like a hero.

Take the post for what it was intended for, a simple word of warning, me trying to help someone else out. Not a chance for you to get up on your milkcrate & brag about your "Game"!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2383967]

And how the math went from 13 K to 30 K sounds like Colombian logic (ill-logical), maybe it was round-trip

You were wise to cut your losses of less than $ 10 and show her the door, as it most probably would of been a terrible session for you as you surmised.

[/QUOTE]Her fare to my apto was 13 K. I should have given her another 13 K and been done with it but like I said I was simply trying to get her out with as little drama as possible. She figured 13 k was close enough to 15 k and round trip was 30 k. So to diffuse the situation, she got 30 k and shown to the door. You are correct about cutting the losses. I simply got a bad feeling about her immediately changing her price and figured everything was going to be "no", "no", No" after that.

Believe me, I hated the way things turned out as she is exactly what I am looking for. Minus the rule changing of course.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2383821]I cannot imagine what this feel like if I spoke some real Spanish.
[/QUOTE]You will feel like Pollo Negro.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2384235]Her fare to my apto was 13 K. I should have given her another 13 K and been done with it but like I said I was simply trying to get her out with as little drama as possible. She figured 13 k was close enough to 15 k and round trip was 30 k. So to diffuse the situation, she got 30 k and shown to the door. You are correct about cutting the losses. I simply got a bad feeling about her immediately changing her price and figured everything was going to be "no", "no", No" after that.

Believe me, I hated the way things turned out as she is exactly what I am looking for. Minus the rule changing of course.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]It might turn out differently if you showed her the message right away.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2384229]Since you have so much "game". What does "200. Ni mas ni menos" mean to you?[/QUOTE]It ambiguously means whatever you want it to mean. The upfront and straight forward way of dealing with the situation would have been to say that her 200 k would be deducted for her taxi to and from your place, which you purposely avoided saying.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895][b]I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside[/b], threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.[/QUOTE][b]Newbies: don't ever do this![/b]

You are lucky she didn't just take the 200 k and hop back in the taxi and go home! "You mean I get 200 k and not even have to have a fat smelly gringo jumping up and down on my for 3 minutes? That was easy!"

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2384139]All due respect Surfer, but most thieves aren't smart.

However, if we want to stick with the "large, white, dark haired, tan gringos are easily mistaken for Colombians" story, I have a question or two. I fit that description and I don't believe anyone ever thought I was Colombian. There was 1 Dutch backpacker who tried to ask me directions in very poor Spanish. He admitted he didn't think I was Colombian, but he wasn't sure.

Question 1: How does a large gringo (part of the original description) pass for Colombian? Even at my skinniest, I'm still 40# heavier and 6" taller than practically everyone in Colombia. I've also never seen a Colombian in my age range who even vaguely resembles me..[/QUOTE]I can pass as a Colombian and have been told so by other Colombians as long as my mouth is shut. When I am in El Centro I dress like a local, tattered blue jeans and worn out T-shirt. I don't wear sun glasses or carry a bottle of water around with me, and whether I am in an Estrato 1 or 6 I fly under the radar with my mouth shut. So I consider myself less of a target than an obvious gringo but not immune.

In regards to Colombians paying attention to a person's Estrato, this is very true but not in the sense your suggesting. What I call "Classism" exists in Colombia, I have witnessed it first hand on many occasions. Two examples include once when I was with one of my Amigas in Provenza, she was asked by a Colombian couple we meet which part of town she was from and when she told them (Paris) they immediately gave her the cold shoulder as that is an Estrato 1/2 part of town compared to where this couple lived. Another example includes when I was looking at a property in Poblado and the real estate agent had brought along an attorney. When I asked the attorney about Bellen across the river and west of Poblado he made a remark about those people who live in that part of town. In both of these occasions I was with other friends who witnessed and heard what I had heard and later remarked on it. It's identical to racism, but based on class, and with Colombia having a system whereby the wealthy subsidize the poor, perhaps that's why it exists. As an example, when you go to get cable service say in CLARO, they will have a chart of fees based on Estrato. There is also a sliding scale for heath care and utilities.

I know none of this matters for most, but the point is, Colombians wouldn't even be thinking about what a gringo's Estrato is.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384128]if the situation arises, what is the typical bribing amount? Is it in pesos or in dollars?[/QUOTE]I forgot the actual number. A recent report here indicates that 150 mils is enough.

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[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895]Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I know to some of we live by all I have is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one but these chicks don't have the same mentality but I can't believe you passed on some pussy you wanted for a difference of 4 dollars or 9 dollars which ever it was.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2384280]Careful bro, or that dude will end up accusing you of being JoeBlow896 on some obscure internet forum!

I'm pretty sure that guy is nuts, which is why he thought is bait-and-switch con game on said chica would fly.[/QUOTE]LOL I'm not trolling dude I know we all got our own price points and limits I'm just saying sound like baby is fine and to squabble over a few dollars seems kinda crazy.

Has any of these putas set their male friends on anybody on this board before? When I read this board a lot of the times I feel like you guys are just asking for trouble. You're in a foreign country, bringing hookers back to your hotel / apartment / Airbnb where you will be staying for quite some time & then having arguments & kicking them out in a situation where they then become resentful towards you. Reading this board makes me understand why so many men get me too'd & blackmailed by women, too many of you are way too careless imo.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384275]I can't believe you passed on some pussy you wanted for a difference of 4 dollars or 9 dollars which ever it was.[/QUOTE]That is easy to say in the horniness of your own home. Dude, pussy is a penny a pound in Medellin. The guy said the girl showed up and he got bad vibes from her. Would you rather his small head taken over (as yours is apparently doing) and the chick causing all kinds of problems and him coming with a different report of how she stole from him, or wrecked his place, or the police had to be called? Then everybody on here would be telling him he should have seen the signs. Nothing wrong with cutting your losses. Exactly why I prefer women writing to me instead of that voice shit. I can scroll right back up and show them what they said.

Chick tried to get me one time. At the beginning she said she was not looking to be tied down or whatever. A few weeks after we started fucking, she tried to act like she was my lady, giving me the 3rd degree over nothing. Let's scroll back up here. On September 5, 2017 did you not say....?

I know this board is big on FB chicas. But I still like the old fashioned way of visiting casas / clubs. On recent trips I've made the usual rounds (new life / energy / fase dos etc.) - I'm wondering if there are any casas under the radar that some gents might recommend. How is Luna Lunera and Santa Diego? Is Barra Ejec worth a visit? I've also heard that Om Spa is an interesting way to mix it up. Would be grateful for any rec's. I'm in MDE this week and will post my detailed report. Gracias!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2384309]That is easy to say in the horniness of your own home. Dude, pussy is a penny a pound in Medellin. The guy said the girl showed up and he got bad vibes from her. Would you rather his small head taken over (as yours is apparently doing) and the chick causing all kinds of problems and him coming with a different report of how she stole from him, or wrecked his place, or the police had to be called? Then everybody on here would be telling him he should have seen the signs. Nothing wrong with cutting your losses. Exactly why I prefer women writing to me instead of that voice shit. I can scroll right back up and show them what they said.

Chick tried to get me one time. At the beginning she said she was not looking to be tied down or whatever. A few weeks after we started fucking, she tried to act like she was my lady, giving me the 3rd degree over nothing. Let's scroll back up here. On September 5, 2017 did you not say....?[/QUOTE]Excellent response, I can't believe how some guys on here can act so thirsty / submissive! For real, they can't let a ***** that just yelled at them go? If the agreed upon price is 200 mil, how the fuck is paying the ***** 200 mil trying to scam her?

Please explain, I don't understand. Are they into being subs?

ElMechanico, thumbs up to you!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2384309]That is easy to say in the horniness of your own home. Dude, pussy is a penny a pound in Medellin. The guy said the girl showed up and he got bad vibes from her. Would you rather his small head taken over (as yours is apparently doing) and the chick causing all kinds of problems and him coming with a different report of how she stole from him, or wrecked his place, or the police had to be called? Then everybody on here would be telling him he should have seen the signs. Nothing wrong with cutting your losses. Exactly why I prefer women writing to me instead of that voice shit. I can scroll right back up and show them what they said.

Chick tried to get me one time. At the beginning she said she was not looking to be tied down or whatever. A few weeks after we started fucking, she tried to act like she was my lady, giving me the 3rd degree over nothing. Let's scroll back up here. On September 5, 2017 did you not say....?[/QUOTE]I read well player! He didn't want to come off a few dollars for the taxi. I'm not criticizing just putting my 2 cents in like you do. Miscommunication happen all the time. I would paid the few dollars and fucked her harder.

If a chica wants taxi, she needs to ask for it up front. Not assume. I usually agree to pay 150 mil plus taxi one way. And then I go down to meet the taxi and read the meter to be sure I'm not getting scammed (which can happen). It also helps that I usually ask the girl where's she's from and I have an idea of what a taxi costs from there to my place. Most of my regulars just show up and I give them their money. We do not haggle over taxis, etc.

So I agree with El Mechanico. He did nothing wrong and she F-the up. And it creates a bad vibe and often leads to a bad session. I think he did the right thing by sending her on her way.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2384229]Since you have so much "game". What does "200. Ni mas ni menos" mean to you? Taxi and dinner were discussed before we even made the cita, and she declined. Once I sent her the screenshot of her agreeing to 200 k COP, she apologized and asked to come back over and continued to text me for the next few days. Re-read my OP slower this time. Next time I'll try to type a little slower for you. I wasn't trying to "Fleece" anyone out of anything. She changed the rules once she got there and that's when I ended it.

It's so easy for you keyboard warriors to dissect a post only to try to make yourself like like a hero.

Take the post for what it was intended for, a simple word of warning, me trying to help someone else out. Not a chance for you to get up on your milkcrate & brag about your "Game"!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2384314]Excellent response, I can't believe how some guys on here can act so thirsty / submissive! For real, they can't let a ***** that just yelled at them go? If the agreed upon price is 200 mil, how the fuck is paying the ***** 200 mil trying to scam her?

Please explain, I don't understand. Are they into being subs?

ElMechanico, thumbs up to you![/QUOTE]LOL at thirsty / submissive. I can't believe some of you guys cry about $10 dollars. Where I'm from the say small things to a giant it's NOTHING if she asked for $50 more that's something else. I'm just saying, but that's what makes us individuals. Some of us cry over spilled milk some of us go buy a new gallon. I see who is who.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384360]Some of us cry over spilled milk some of us go buy a new gallon. I see who is who.[/QUOTE]This is another good reason why you should thoroughly vet anyone you decide to let tag along with you as your wingman. You cannot account for what anyone else is doing when you are not around them (like the 200 k minus taxi, FICA, state and local taxes finesse game, LOL).

Don't let their misadventures leave your wondering why you and this new wingman amigo just got double-tapped while walking down the road by one p--sed off Colombiano connected to the chica your wingman was trying to give the okie doke.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384289]LOL I'm not trolling dude I know we all got our own price points and limits I'm just saying sound like baby is fine and to squabble over a few dollars seems kinda crazy.[/QUOTE]I think he did the exact right / smart thing. He told her what he'd pay her (ni mas ni menos) and she tipped him off that she was going to be a pain in the ass. I would have done the exact same thing. Tons of pussy in Medellin, no need to get fixated on one.

I'm just shocked he paid her upfront. And even more shocked that she then threw the money on the table. Most of these chicas would have that money stashed in their purse in under a second!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2383895]Little tiny, cute Sofia Perez. Always posting ass pics on Fay-boo, and man does she have a nice one!! We agreed on 200 K Cop for the session and she came over Sat pm. Texted when she got there and asked me to come outside to pay the 13 k taxi fare. I handed her the 200 k and she paid the fare, came inside, threw the 187 K COP on the coffee table and said in an angry tone, 'You have to pay me 30 k more for the taxi!' I picked up the pile of bills, peeled of 3 10 k bills (I know, it should have only been 13 k and I was just trying to get her to leave) and told her adios, the cita is over. She left and then started texting calling me a tacone & 'Que horror" jajajaja, etc, etc. I scrolled back up on our text thread and took a screenshot of her agreeing to the "$200 k ni mas, ni menos" and sent it to her. She then apologized, and asked to come back over, but the moment was ruined and she just looked like a clockwatcher who would change the rules once the door closed. I know they act different at different times and certainly different with different people, just be careful with this one. There are to many of them out there to be putting up with their nonsense, no matter how hot their booty is. And as usual YMMV! Just a word of warning.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Sofia is pretty chill and definitely not a clock watcher. So it's too bad the two of you got off on the wrong foot. But if she ever raised her voice to me or starting throwing down money and making demands before I had ever laid a hand on her. Then she would have been thrown out on her head.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384360]LOL at thirsty / submissive. I can't believe some of you guys cry about $10 dollars. Where I'm from the say small things to a giant it's NOTHING if she asked for $50 more that's something else. I'm just saying, but that's what makes us individuals. Some of us cry over spilled milk some of us go buy a new gallon. I see who is who.[/QUOTE]I think you're missing the point. I agree -- $10 is nothing. That's not the issue here. The issue is that she gave him good indication that she was going to be a pain in the ass. And he (wisely IMO) made a decision to move on.

[QUOTE=Combo;2384379]I think you're missing the point. I agree -- $10 is nothing. That's not the issue here. The issue is that she gave him good indication that she was going to be a pain in the ass. And he (wisely IMO) made a decision to move on.[/QUOTE]I exactly get the point but a bird in hand in better than 2 in the Bush. I don't tell no man how to spend his money but I do agree with the other poster he was tryna be slick. She wasn't wrong for speaking her mind, if she expected to leave with 200 k and now it's 187 or 170 k which ever it was why'all know well that doe she was going to get was already spent in her mind. And I don't think 30 more was going to break him he just wanted to be right. I'm not dissing I find it fascinating that many of the brethren really really get upset because she tried to "work " you for 10 more dollars LOL.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384360]Some of us cry over spilled milk some of us go buy a new gallon. I see who is who.[/QUOTE]So why are you criticizing him for letting the spilled milk go and deciding to buy a fresh gallon? LOL.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384383]I exactly get the point but a bird in hand in better than 2 in the Bush.[/QUOTE]Again, in Medellin that is a wasted saying. There, you can come up on a "bird" quicker than you can come up on some food. Now maybe if he was in Podunk, Iowa it would have benefited him to kiss up and kowtow, but in Medellin no fucking way Another chick could have been on the way just as quick as that one left.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384383]I do agree with the other poster he was tryna be slick.[/QUOTE]How slick was he trying to be by giving her 30K? Plus the 13K he had already paid the taxi is 43K. He could have gotten a session at New Life for that, yet all he gained was watching this chick walk in his place and walk right back out. So he was out of 43K plus the time he spent waiting on her. I am not seeing the slickness.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2384386]So why are you criticizing him for letting the spilled milk go and deciding to buy a fresh gallon? LOL.

Again, in Medellin that is a wasted saying. There, you can come up on a "bird" quicker than you can come up on some food. Now maybe if he was in Podunk, Iowa it would have benefited him to kiss up and kowtow, but in Medellin no fucking way Another chick could have been on the way just as quick as that one left.

How slick was he trying to be by giving her 30K? Plus the 13K he had already paid the taxi is 43K. He could have gotten a session at New Life for that, yet all he gained was watching this chick walk in his place and walk right back out. So he was out of 43K plus the time he spent waiting on her. I am not seeing the slickness.[/QUOTE]We not going to go back and forth over semantics my guy it was 13 for the taxi he tossed her 30 because when she charged him up for that weak sauce he was the one with the skirt and that moment. So you applauding because he gave her 30 k to leave and she wanted was him to pay 13 k for taxi and he coulda fucked LOL seems silly to me and he just wanted to be right. So idk where the 30 + 13 came in and talk of new life. Maybe he should payed 13 k to taxi to take him to new life LOL the again we wouldn't have anything to go back and forth over if he did that. All I'm saying if the miscommunication was over 13 k i think that was a nominal amount that wouldn’t have been sticking point for most . But seeing the responses for most it is and once again that blows my mind y’all travel around the world to get different pussy and $10 and a whiny chick bcuz you was playing as well más you put her out and tell us how mean she was to you . I got my fair share of mongering maybe not as much as y’all but L’s gonna come they ain’t all gonna be W’s but I see If he had paid the 13k as a tie , o come dicen en español un empata

You guys can do whatever you want. I choose not to let trifles over a few dollars (essentially crumbs) keep me from having drama-free getaways. I'm seriously sitting here trying to thing about any major disagreements that I have with chicas over the many years of traveling here. The only thing that comes to mind is not getting some to budge off of CBJ even if offering a propina. And even then it may happen once out of the 20 or more ho's I run through on any given trip.

A bad night in Medallo beats a lifetime in Sex Prison.

Monger long and prosper!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2384396]You guys can do whatever you want. I choose not to let trifles over a few dollars (essentially crumbs) keep me from having drama-free getaways. I'm seriously sitting here trying to thing about any major disagreements that I have with chicas over the many years of traveling here. The only thing that comes to mind is not getting some to budge off of CBJ even if offering a propina. And even then it may happen once out of the 20 or more ho's I run through on any given trip.

A bad night in Medallo beats a lifetime in Sex Prison.

Monger long and prosper![/QUOTE]My man! That's how you get us back on track!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2384396]You guys can do whatever you want. I choose not to let trifles over a few dollars (essentially crumbs) keep me from having drama-free getaways. I'm seriously sitting here trying to thing about any major disagreements that I have with chicas over the many years of traveling here. The only thing that comes to mind is not getting some to budge off of CBJ even if offering a propina. And even then it may happen once out of the 20 or more ho's I run through on any given trip.

A bad night in Medallo beats a lifetime in Sex Prison.

Monger long and prosper![/QUOTE]I have only been here for about 4 weeks. I have to agree, Medellin is a top notch place for mongering. I personally rank Medellin below Brazil, slightly above Germany. I can't image how you could have a bad night mongering in Medellin. Even if you pick up a bad chica at 4 am, you can always throw her out and call another girl or go to paradise or el faisán, there are plenty of 18-21 year-old around all the way to 6-8 am. If you still can find anything, just keep on drinking beer for an hour or two, the casas will open by then. Very few place on earth have these many options. To add a cherry on top, the price here is insanely low (I'm sure that I'm paying the gringo price everywhere), considering the cover charge in a good night club in San Francisco is 20 dollars, the globe in Zurich charges 110 dollars just for entrance, this place is heaven.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2384258]I forgot the actual number. A recent report here indicates that 150 mils is enough.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I will make note of this.

Incase anyone is interested, this was posted today on FB.

Your money, your dick, your business.

If someone else has an issue with what you paid, or how you handled a situation, just remember those 6 words. What you pay and what you do has no effect on anyone else.

Write the reviews, let them be critiqued and don't worry too much about the criticism. Learn what you can and move on.

This current uproar over El Mechanico isn't a huge deal. He made a big mistake and maybe a few small ones. It's not the end of the world.

The big mistake had already been mentioned. Handing a girl 200 k and letting her walk out to a waiting taxi is a good way to lose 200 k.

The maybe small mistakes are just speculation on my part. Maybe he could have communicated better. He said 200 k and no more, but it appears she wasn't thinking no more for taxi. She was probably thinking no upsell for BBBJ or other services. If I'm insisting on the girl paying the taxi, I'll tell her "no pago el taxi. " That may have made a difference.

The other small mistake, he may have gotten a bit of an attitude with her. Handing her the 200 k and telling her to pay the taxi sounds a bit snippy. So she returned with her own attitude. Once again, I'm just speculating. After that it went downhill.

My choice is usually to pay for the inbound taxi, and I'll go out and meet it. This has a hidden benefit. If the girl isn't what you expected, you can make a quick excuse, slip her enough to taxi home and not worry about getting her out of the apartment.

Once the girl is inside, it would take a lot for me to just hand her money and tell her to leave. I've already invested time and I'll have to take more time to get a replacement. Throw in 30-50 k and it's starting to get expensive, relative to what I could be paying and doing.

However, we each have our own priorities. Maybe if he had paid the extra 17 k, he would have had the best session of his trip. Maybe it would have been terrible.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384432]I have only been here for about 4 weeks. I have to agree, Medellin is a top notch place for mongering. I personally rank Medellin below Brazil, slightly above Germany. I can't image how you could have a bad night mongering in Medellin. Even if you pick up a bad chica at 4 am, you can always throw her out and call another girl or go to paradise or el faisand, there are plenty of 18-21 year-old around all the way to 6-8 am. If you still can find anything, just keep on drinking beer for an hour or two, the casas will open by then. Very few place on earth have these many options. To add a cherry on top, the price here is insanely low (I'm sure that I'm paying the gringo price everywhere), considering the cover charge in a good night club in San Francisco is 20 dollars, the globe in Zurich charges 110 dollars just for entrance, this place is heaven.[/QUOTE]Interesting how you place Medellin slightly above Germany when I consider it light years better, after spending a week in Germany, I couldn't wait to get back to MDE with it's different and varied venues at a fraction of the cost.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2381609]Hey guys, another question I have: When using money exchange outlets (the ones in Poblados and Laureles seem to give a decent rate from my research) what's the max amount they will allow you to exchange? I ask this because in my country you can't exchange more than $300 USD outside of a bank, is there anything like this in place in Colombia or will I be okay exchanging $1000+ USA the to pesos?

P. s Money Max in Laureles is buying at 3320 cop per 1 USD the as per their website, which is a 3% charge & is comparable to withdrawing from the ATM.[/QUOTE]If you get an etrade checking account, they reimburse ATM fees and you get the exchange rate.

Hi all,

I'm planning my first international mongering trip (probably in January) and have narrowed down a few options. I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere at length but my google-foo couldn't find threads on them. The Medellin reports seem more active. Could someone please quickly summarize the pros / cons of each. I'm in the US, in my late 40's and can speak Spanish fluently. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance!

If you make it clear before inviting them over that you want BBBJ and not CBJ you shouldn't have a problem. Plus any other extras that you want. Then again, I only do FB girls and always BBBJ.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2384396]You guys can do whatever you want. I choose not to let trifles over a few dollars (essentially crumbs) keep me from having drama-free getaways. I'm seriously sitting here trying to thing about any major disagreements that I have with chicas over the many years of traveling here. The only thing that comes to mind is not getting some to budge off of CBJ even if offering a propina. And even then it may happen once out of the 20 or more ho's I run through on any given trip.

A bad night in Medallo beats a lifetime in Sex Prison.

Monger long and prosper![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384383]I exactly get the point but a bird in hand in better than 2 in the Bush. I don't tell no man how to spend his money but I do agree with the other poster he was tryna be slick. She wasn't wrong for speaking her mind, if she expected to leave with 200 k and now it's 187 or 170 k which ever it was why'all know well that doe she was going to get was already spent in her mind. And I don't think 30 more was going to break him he just wanted to be right. I'm not dissing I find it fascinating that many of the brethren really really get upset because she tried to "work " you for 10 more dollars LOL.[/QUOTE]Its not about the money. Its about not wanting to spend 230 mil on a ***** with an attitude. I don't accept it from normal women and I would damn sure not tolerate it from a ***** that I'm paying! Especially in Colombia where its easier to get laid than not get laid. No woman is irreplaceable, certainly not a hooker with an attitude, she is basura. The concept of respect seem wasted on some people, they are controlled by their balls and the content of their wallet.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2384553]Incase anyone is interested, this was posted today on FB.[/QUOTE]Good work in posting this important info. Bad enough getting robbed, but those knock out drugs can kill you.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384383]I exactly get the point but a bird in hand in better than 2 in the Bush...........[/QUOTE]I prefer my bird in the bush rather than in the hand, I have no problem with chicas who do not shave.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2384681]I prefer my bird in the bush rather than in the hand, I have no problem with chicas who do not shave.[/QUOTE]LOL. We going to let that rip where it ended. But I too prefer my bird in the Bush as well. But I thought the expression fit the conversation.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2384553]Incase anyone is interested, this was posted today on FB.[/QUOTE]Damn, those girls are hot. That would be an awesome threeway.

Thanks but they are not my type. LOL!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2384553]Incase anyone is interested, this was posted today on FB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2384584]Interesting how you place Medellin slightly above Germany when I consider it light years better, after spending a week in Germany, I couldn't wait to get back to MDE with it's different and varied venues at a fraction of the cost.[/QUOTE]I would say back in the good old days, Germany's FKK, especially around Frankfurt, is on par with Medellin. For 50 euros, you get DFK, BBBJ and CFS. On a good day, there are anywhere between 50-150 naked girls walking around in the FKK, begging you to fuck them. Nowadays, new law made BBBJ illegal; the girls become more aggressive in up-selling. Sigh. I do miss those tall, blue-eyed Romanian girls though.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384739]I would say back in the good old days, Germany's FKK, especially around Frankfurt, is on par with Medellin. For 50 euros, you get DFK, BBBJ and CFS. On a good day, there are anywhere between 50-150 naked girls walking around in the FKK, begging you to fuck them. Nowadays, new law made BBBJ illegal; the girls become more aggressive in up-selling. Sigh. I do miss those tall, blue-eyed Romanian girls though.[/QUOTE]Although this is not the right place to post, but as an example, so others can get an idea of how great Medellin is, I was in Berlin two months ago, and admission only to an FKK was 80 Euros, with the girls costing 60 Euros in addition to that for 30 minutes. So at 140 Euros for one pop, or approximately $ 160 USD, or the equivalent of 5, 300 Colombian Pesos, that will get you at least two FB girls with all the add on's for a couple of hours, or 10 sessions at a Casa, and even more sessions with the streetwalkers in El Centro. And yes there were some hot women from the Balkans for sure, but too many rules!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2384729]Damn, those girls are hot. That would be an awesome threeway.[/QUOTE]Did you read the fine print? Wanted literally dead or alive with a reward of $ 1,000 USD leading to their arrest for robbery and drugging people. Not a threesome I would want to take part in.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384739]...Nowadays, new law made BBBJ illegal...[/QUOTE]I go there every year, and I believe that law became effective in the summer of 2017. Well, I have been back a couple of times after that law went into effect and I am still getting BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Xavter;2384595]Hi all,

I'm planning my first international mongering trip (probably in January) and have narrowed down a few options. I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere at length but my google-foo couldn't find threads on them. The Medellin reports seem more active. Could someone please quickly summarize the pros / cons of each. I'm in the US, in my late 40's and can speak Spanish fluently. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Medellin Pros:

Climate, better mass transit, friendlier people.

Bogota Pros:

More girls, more high end clubs, more low end clubs.

Medellin Cons:

Traffic, air quality.

Bogota cons:

Traffic, climate.

Is Loutron open?

Abydos open?

How are the prices and lineup quality?

[QUOTE=Xavter;2384595]Hi all,

I'm planning my first international mongering trip (probably in January) and have narrowed down a few options. I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere at length but my google-foo couldn't find threads on them. The Medellin reports seem more active. Could someone please quickly summarize the pros / cons of each. I'm in the US, in my late 40's and can speak Spanish fluently. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Sure knowing Spanish makes a difference especially if you like to do things with women other than just fuck them or are like me and get more of a kick out of fucking chicks you actually know.

If you want to take to the time to build up a list of Facebook chicas and go out on the town or just have them hang at your place then Medellin is for you. But if you are just interested in going to casas and banging women at a low cost per bang and then doing something else with your free time then Bogota is a better bet by far.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2384792]I go there every year, and I believe that law became effective in the summer of 2017. Well, I have been back a couple of times after that law went into effect and I am still getting BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the law became effective on July 1st 2017. You still can get BBBJ, but it is no longer the default. New girls now ask for extras for BBBJ, which is annoying.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2384299]Has any of these putas set their male friends on anybody on this board before? When I read this board a lot of the times I feel like you guys are just asking for trouble. You're in a foreign country, bringing hookers back to your hotel / apartment / Airbnb where you will be staying for quite some time & then having arguments & kicking them out in a situation where they then become resentful towards you. Reading this board makes me understand why so many men get me too'd & blackmailed by women, too many of you are way too careless imo.[/QUOTE]From what I am seeing, the arguments some having over pesos this and that are actually a few USD in amount. Someone cries over wanting what is really $5, $9 or $10 extra USD, no problem. In my mind, I am thinking, "You definitely need it more than I do. ".

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2384807]Sure knowing Spanish makes a difference especially if you like to do things with women other than just fuck them or are like me and get more of a kick out of fucking chicks you actually know.

If you want to take to the time to build up a list of Facebook chicas and go out on the town or just have them hang at your place then Medellin is for you. But if you are just interested in going to casas and banging women at a low cost per bang and then doing something else with your free time then Bogota is a better bet by far.[/QUOTE]I'm definitely interested in spending more time with girls outside of just sex. Is it better in Medellin because of the high use of Facebook? Are you also saying that the competition and quantity is better in Bogota?

I was also curious about the high end scene as well. I'm used to Russian spinners and was hoping to have some similar tight body encounters in Columbia.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2384770]Although this is not the right place to post, but as an example, so others can get an idea of how great Medellin is, I was in Berlin two months ago, and admission only to an FKK was 80 Euros, with the girls costing 60 Euros in addition to that for 30 minutes. So at 140 Euros for one pop, or approximately $ 160 USD, or the equivalent of 5, 300 Colombian Pesos, that will get you at least two FB girls with all the add on's for a couple of hours, or 10 sessions at a Casa, and even more sessions with the streetwalkers in El Centro. And yes there were some hot women from the Balkans for sure, but too many rules![/QUOTE]It all has to do with personal tastes. My number 1 preference is slim, tall, blue eyed blondes. Therefore, for me Germany is my number 1 destination for our hobby. Followed by Brazil (where I am now) and Colombia comes in a pleasurable third. As far as service is concerned Brazil is an undoubted number one followed by Colombia then Germany even though I have found BBBJ more readily available in Germany than Colombia. As far as cost is concerned its Colombia first, then Brazil then Germany.

[QUOTE=Xavter;2384849]I'm definitely interested in spending more time with girls outside of just sex. Is it better in Medellin because of the high use of Facebook? Are you also saying that the competition and quantity is better in Bogota?

I was also curious about the high end scene as well. I'm used to Russian spinners and was hoping to have some similar tight body encounters in Columbia.[/QUOTE]Logistically, Medellin as a City is much easier to navigate than Bogota. There are many places you can go to using the Metro and / or just walking, versus Bogota which is spread out for miles. I have been to Bogota once and just didn't like it, not so much because of the climate, but because it was such a hassle to travel around the City. As far as the main red light district, I didn't like it much either. If your into the SW scene, there seemed to be much less there than El Centro in Medellin, but again I am not very knowledgeable about Bogota and I am sure there are all kinds of parks with girls available. I do though suggest you visit Bogota at least for a day or two, however I would do it before going to Medellin. I know lots of people who have visited Bogota, and most say they won't go back after visiting, or say I wish I had spent more time in Medellin versus Bogota. It's just a matter of personal taste. And don't worry about getting spinners, there's plenty to go around. And since you speak Spanish, things will be much easier for you, just read the Medellin and Bogota threads going back three months (ignoring all the bickering posts) and most of your questions should be answered. Use the search function to help you identify things such as "spinner".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2384918]It all has to do with personal tastes. My number 1 preference is slim, tall, blue eyed blondes. Therefore, for me Germany is my number 1 destination for our hobby. Followed by Brazil (where I am now) and Colombia comes in a pleasurable third. As far as service is concerned Brazil is an undoubted number one followed by Colombia then Germany even though I have found BBBJ more readily available in Germany than Colombia. As far as cost is concerned its Colombia first, then Brazil then Germany.[/QUOTE]Yes, I too was captivated by the slim, tall, blue eyed blondes. However, I have found BBBJ more the norm all over Colombia, versus in Germany, but that's just been my personal experience.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2384918]It all has to do with personal tastes. My number 1 preference is slim, tall, blue eyed blondes. Therefore, for me Germany is my number 1 destination for our hobby. Followed by Brazil (where I am now) and Colombia comes in a pleasurable third. As far as service is concerned Brazil is an undoubted number one followed by Colombia then Germany even though I have found BBBJ more readily available in Germany than Colombia. As far as cost is concerned its Colombia first, then Brazil then Germany.[/QUOTE]I think most mongers I know would agree that if you don't like Asian girls, then the top three spot for mongering on earth are, Brazil, Germany and Medellin, if you like Asian girls, then south East Asia is the way to go. How you rank the top three is largely a matter of personal taste. In my book, Brazil is the undisputed leader, then Medellin, followed by Germany / Switzerland. I'm so happy that Medellin turned out to be a heavenly place. I just wish I know a little bit Spanish.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384931]I think most mongers I know would agree that if you don't like Asian girls, then the top three spot for mongering on earth are, Brazil, Germany and Medellin, if you like Asian girls, then south East Asia is the way to go. How you rank the top three is largely a matter of personal taste. In my book, Brazil is the undisputed leader, then Medellin, followed by Germany / switzerland. I'm so happy that Medellin turned out to be a heavenly place. I just wish I know a little bit Spanish.[/QUOTE]My favorites in order are, Medellin, Thailand, and the Philippines. I guess I'm lucky liking Asian's as well. The thing that amazes me though is how some guys just detest Asian's and love Latina's. I don't get it, as some of the Asians can be so exotic. As far as Germany goes, well the majority of the women working there are not German for those who don't know.

[QUOTE=Xavter;2384849]I'm definitely interested in spending more time with girls outside of just sex. Is it better in Medellin because of the high use of Facebook? Are you also saying that the competition and quantity is better in Bogota?

I was also curious about the high end scene as well. I'm used to Russian spinners and was hoping to have some similar tight body encounters in Columbia.[/QUOTE]Anything you want you will find in Medellin or Bogota, if you're looking for love, you'd be more successful in Hunts Point. Medellin & Bogota are for mongering, not for finding love, love is very expensive in a cheap City, now read between the lines. Pollo negro is out!

Going to condense the rest of my trip to one report when I get stateside.

Going home after such epic-ness. Can't imagine what else can feel like dope sick of a low.

Been able to successfully score todos las noches for exactemente 200 mil pesos Colombians from IMO cute Venezuelans and thicker Paisas which is my cup of tea for sure. I now have a list of TLN candidates to choose from whenever I manage to utter up the cash to return. Attached picture is Mariana, my anal queen of the trip. 200 k TLN unlimited all access pass for 13 hours. Met in good ol' Botero Square. Have also been negotiating the initial pitch of.

300 mil for TLN to 200 from chicas in Barra Exjetivo (executive), highly recommend. On a mob controlled block in the middle of Centro, safe as can be due to the near by clubs. Just don't walk pass that block and you good. No entry fee, no bottle needed just a bought drink.

Idk how I can go home after this experience, it has been surreal, like a game of GTA: Medellin.

Loutron is still open, although in a different location from where it was if you went a long time ago. I have been told Abydos has closed. Probably 2 years ago. Too bad. I loved Abydos. As it was the training place for Loutron. I used to get some solid pussy there for a fair price. Bummer.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2384805]Is Loutron open?

Abydos open?

How are the prices and lineup quality?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2384918]It all has to do with personal tastes. My number 1 preference is slim, tall, blue eyed blondes. Therefore, for me Germany is my number 1 destination for our hobby. Followed by Brazil (where I am now) and Colombia comes in a pleasurable third. As far as service is concerned Brazil is an undoubted number one followed by Colombia then Germany even though I have found BBBJ more readily available in Germany than Colombia. As far as cost is concerned its Colombia first, then Brazil then Germany.[/QUOTE]I thought you said Indian girls in Kolkata were among the best in the world. Ranging from dark to whitest of the white skin. But they aren't even on your list here.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384931]I think most mongers I know would agree that if you don't like Asian girls, then the top three spot for mongering on earth are, Brazil, Germany and Medellin, if you like Asian girls, then south East Asia is the way to go. How you rank the top three is largely a matter of personal taste. In my book, Brazil is the undisputed leader, then Medellin, followed by Germany / switzerland. I'm so happy that Medellin turned out to be a heavenly place. I just wish I know a little bit Spanish.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input! I never considered Germany but then again I've just started to research this. I was actually considering Russia so that I could connect with some contacts I've met on tours here in the US but that seems tough to travel to. Medellin sounds like a safe bet for me to start since I'm fluent in Spanish. I was originally going to try Bogota instead since it a better "cover story" at home. Is there a difference in quality, experience, or cost with the girls between the 2 cities?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2385002]Loutron is still open, although in a different location from where it was if you went a long time ago. I have been told Abydos has closed. Probably 2 years ago. Too bad. I loved Abydos. As it was the training place for Loutron. I used to get some solid pussy there for a fair price. Bummer.[/QUOTE]The closing of Abydos was a huge blow to me. It was my favorite casa, there were some really fine women there. I am not usually a repeater in Medellin due to the sheer number of doable working women there but I repeated in Abydos. They then started to slowly go downhill until in my last visit there (I think 3 years ago) I chose no one out of the miserable lineup of 3 and the mamasan had the audacity to charge me 10 mil pesos for the lineup, I suppose it got very difficult for them in the end.

I thought they were closed more than three years ago. It was a good place in its day. I think it had the same ownership as Loutron.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2385019]The closing of Abydos was a huge blow to me. It was my favorite casa, there were some really fine women there. I am not usually a repeater in Medellin due to the sheer number of doable working women there but I repeated in Abydos. They then started to slowly go downhill until in my last visit there (I think 3 years ago) I chose no one out of the miserable lineup of 3 and the mamasan had the audacity to charge me 10 mil pesos for the lineup, I suppose it got very difficult for them in the end.[/QUOTE]

Facebook Medellin Chicas Short List.

I am sure this is just a small sample of the thousands who are on Facebook and available "for fun. " But these are the ones I am friends with on Facebook. In my past few trips there, I have chatted with them, but did not have time to get with them all. There are really TOO MANY.

Between Facebook, Tinder, the casas, the bars / clubs, other online hook-up sites and simply pounding the pavement to search for and meet chicas, no one should have any issues finding a chica when in Medellin.

But this short FB chica list should help tremendously:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009023461320[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isbell.ateh[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mairaalejandra.correaherrera.3[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013077308802[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isabale.perez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/sarita.maya.35[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/paolitha.monteneg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/CARLA.molinazapata[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/heylen.restrepo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/higuita.jimena[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isabel.acuna.167[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/angiie.zapatahenao[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/kateriinG[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luisa.gomez.58323[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/laurita.mejiaarenas[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/leidy.zapata.31149359[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dianamarcela.ossaacevedo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/paola.mejia.1447342[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yura.guerra.9[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/solome.velezlopez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008891327049[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.montoya.3551380[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/liiz.perez9238[/URL]

Bogota. 10 K feet elevation. Plan to be a bit light headed for the first 4-5 days until your body adjusts to it. Sure doesn't take too many Club Colombias to get a good buzz there. Haha.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2384797]Medellin Pros:

Climate, better mass transit, friendlier people.

Bogota Pros:

More girls, more high end clubs, more low end clubs.

Medellin Cons:

Traffic, air quality.

Bogota cons:

Traffic, climate.[/QUOTE]

You all are ruining the scene for yourselves posting all these fb links. Next time the girls are going to charge you more and be ignoring messages because 100 dudes from omaha who never plan to travel spam them.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385270]You all are ruining the scene for yourselves posting all these fb links. Next time the girls are going to charge you more and be ignoring messages because 100 dudes from omaha who never plan to travel spam them.[/QUOTE]And you don't think this has always been happening? Right after the internet was invented, internet trolls were invented.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2385264]Bogota. 10 K feet elevation. Plan to be a bit light headed for the first 4-5 days until your body adjusts to it. Sure doesn't take too many Club Colombias to get a good buzz there. Haha.[/QUOTE]There is a cocaine tea that helps. You can get it in a few places and even in some hotels. And I found that the black club Colombia helps.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385270]You all are ruining the scene for yourselves posting all these fb links. Next time the girls are going to charge you more and be ignoring messages because 100 dudes from omaha who never plan to travel spam them.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter at least not for Medellin there are enough girls around you don't have to worry about fb.

Went in July this year. Been to busy to write I review. First time. Medellin in general is a beautiful city. Would go there just for the location outside of the sport- but now back to the sport- most of the interactions were in places like Gusto, Fase II, TInder, FB, online, LA Isla- la isla was my favorite. Overall city has great food- weather- great activities. Great culture- good looking women everywhere all day. So much so that even while at strip joints. You be come picky because you've been seeing quality women all day. Literally took me a while to get started just because of being overwhelmed so to say. While around town. Easy to talk to meet people with little Spanish. Had many street encounters. But crew I was with for bachelor party. Preferred pros- though non pros and walking pros approached often -went to new life was meh. Slow so we left and then energy. Massage place. Was surprised by how many girls came out. Hard to pick like 30 7-9. 5's. One of my friends took 2 girls LOL -- ill shorten this overall for first time. Was surprised how much value we got. Had one girl in la isla. Let me pop 3 times and said no time limit. I had to leave after 3 I was done -I'm sure things can be done at 1/4 cost of what we spent which is really nothing I think total $800 for a 4 day party filled weekend. With about 7 bodies. Down the rest food drinks activities. If your on the fence go. Would I go alone. I especially want to go alone. Crews can slow you down.

[QUOTE=Xavter;2384849]I'm definitely interested in spending more time with girls outside of just sex. Is it better in Medellin because of the high use of Facebook? Are you also saying that the competition and quantity is better in Bogota?

I was also curious about the high-end scene as well. I'm used to Russian spinners and was hoping to have some similar tight body encounters in Columbia.[/QUOTE]What I'm saying is the quality of women in the casas of Bogota is superior to the quality in Medellin. But outside the casa scene, the women of Medellin are much better and facebook lets you find high-quality women that will spend the day and or night with you. Or even stay with you the entire time you are in Medellin.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2385438]What I'm saying is the quality of women in the casas of Bogota is superior to the quality in Medellin. But outside the casa scene, the women of Medellin are much better and facebook lets you find high-quality women that will spend the day and or night with you. Or even stay with you the entire time you are in Medellin.[/QUOTE]It's worth mentioning that the high end scene doesn't necessarily mean you're getting someone better looking, or who performs better. The only guarantee is that she'll cost you more.

This is gospel truth.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2385455]It's worth mentioning that the high end scene doesn't necessarily mean you're getting someone better looking, or who performs better. The only guarantee is that she'll cost you more.[/QUOTE]

The two biggest differences for me between Medellin and Bogota are (1) because of its size there is more quantity and variety of everything in Bogota and (2) the climate (I much prefer Medellin's).

[QUOTE=Xavter;2385017]Thanks for the input! I never considered Germany but then again I've just started to research this. I was actually considering Russia so that I could connect with some contacts I've met on tours here in the US but that seems tough to travel to. Medellin sounds like a safe bet for me to start since I'm fluent in Spanish. I was originally going to try Bogota instead since it a better "cover story" at home. Is there a difference in quality, experience, or cost with the girls between the 2 cities?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoShadow;2385431]Went in July this year. Been to busy to write I review. First time. Medellin in general is a beautiful city. Would go there just for the location outside of the sport- but now back to the sport- most of the interactions were in places like Gusto, Fase II, TInder, FB, online, LA Isla- la isla was my favorite. Overall city has great food- weather- great activities. Great culture- good looking women everywhere all day. So much so that even while at strip joints. You be come picky because you've been seeing quality women all day. Literally took me a while to get started just because of being overwhelmed so to say. While around town. Easy to talk to meet people with little Spanish. Had many street encounters. But crew I was with for bachelor party. Preferred pros- though non pros and walking pros approached often -went to new life was meh. Slow so we left and then energy. Massage place. Was surprised by how many girls came out. Hard to pick like 30 7-9. 5's. One of my friends took 2 girls LOL -- ill shorten this overall for first time. Was surprised how much value we got. Had one girl in la isla. Let me pop 3 times and said no time limit. I had to leave after 3 I was done -I'm sure things can be done at 1/4 cost of what we spent which is really nothing I think total $800 for a 4 day party filled weekend. With about 7 bodies. Down the rest food drinks activities. If your on the fence go. Would I go alone. I especially want to go alone. Crews can slow you down.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. I plan to solo travel there. For some odd reason, Colombia has been intimidating the shit out of me. It is encouraging to read your report. Good hunting!

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2385000]

Been able to successfully score todos las noches for exactemente 200 mil pesos Colombians from IMO cute Venezuelans and thicker Paisas which is my cup of tea for sure. I now have a list of TLN candidates to choose from whenever I manage to utter up the cash to return. Attached picture is Mariana, my anal queen of the trip. 200 k TLN unlimited all access pass for 13 hours. Met in good ol' Botero Square..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you've got your groove on in El Centro. There's something there for everybody, at least for those who can handle it. Welcome to the Club!

Your anal queen looks like a hard body who can take a pounding. I don't know if I would of wanted to be a fly on the wall in your room witnessing all that back door activity with your anal queen though.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385270]You all are ruining the scene for yourselves posting all these fb links. Next time the girls are going to charge you more and be ignoring messages because 100 dudes from omaha who never plan to travel spam them.[/QUOTE]What may actually occur is that the Fay Boo (FB) girls may have to start charging less because there is a much larger supply of Fay Boo girls known to be available to the mongers.

And given the preponderance of guys going with Fay Boo girls nowadays, perhaps it's time for a separate FB thread. Way easier to consolidate them in one thread, identify the malicious girls, have reviews, etc. Versus having to comb thru the hundreds and hundreds of posts on this thread. Just my opinion from somebody who has never gone with a Fay Boo girl.

First of sorry if you PMed me. I am still not able to send or receive PMs. I am not being rude.

Arrived in Medellin at 2 pm. Been traveling since 5 am.

For some reason immigration was really crowded and took a long time to clear. Picked up bags and took taxi to Airbnb.

To top it, when I boarded the flight to Medellin, I found that one of my tooth caps was wiggling.

The Airbnb was still being cleaned when I arrived, so dropped bags there and found a 24 hour dentist in Laurales.

He patched me up in about an hour and a half, and by that time my Airbnb was ready.

By now it was about 6 pm.

Been talking to multiple chicas, and one of the prepagos, I was told, would not be allowed in the Airbnb, so dropped her.

Next talked to a few Facebook chicas. Some were not my type, and some others had scheduling issues.

Next I messaged an old contact who I had met previously. She was a dancer at Fase Dos, and she had promised doubles with another dancer.

She replied and said that she was not able to bring the other girl, but she can come. I told her to come, but told her I might fall asleep if she is too late.

I took a nap, went and got dinner, and waited. She finally arrived at 9. 30.

We chatted for a bit, went and got some alcohol, watched TV. I told her I was really tired and may not be able to rise to the occasion. LOL.

Anyway, after messing around for a bit she got me ready. Side note, she told me she had stopped working at Fase Dos and any other place.

So she couldn't bring her friend. Also, I felt that she was a bit possessive, but she wouldn't admit it.

Anyway, we get on the cama, and before we start, she asked me if I would pay her like the last time.

I had no idea what I paid her, but I said, yes of course.

The thing I like about her, is that she does most of the work. I just have to lay back and relax.

She made me happy about 3 times. By that time it was 3 am, and my brain was shutting down and I couldn't keep my eyes open.

She wanted to leave, so I pulled out all pesos in my pocket and put it on the bed and I told her if that was sufficient.

She counted it out, it came to 327 mil pesos. She got dressed, kissed me and and wanted to see me again and left.

Overall, not a bad first day.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2385000]Going to condense the rest of my trip to one report when I get stateside.

Going home after such epic-ness. Can't imagine what else can feel like dope sick of a low.

Been able to successfully score todos las noches for exactemente 200 mil pesos Colombians from IMO cute Venezuelans and thicker Paisas which is my cup of tea for sure. I now have a list of TLN candidates to choose from whenever I manage to utter up the cash to return. Attached picture is Mariana, my anal queen of the trip. 200 k TLN unlimited all access pass for 13 hours. Met in good ol' Botero Square. Have also been negotiating the initial pitch of.

300 mil for TLN to 200 from chicas in Barra Exjetivo (executive), highly recommend. On a mob controlled block in the middle of Centro, safe as can be due to the near by clubs. Just don't walk pass that block and you good. No entry fee, no bottle needed just a bought drink.

Idk how I can go home after this experience, it has been surreal, like a game of GTA: Medellin.[/QUOTE]BBFS on the menu?

The hotels I just searched for my next trip in a few weeks the cheapest I have ever seen since my inaugural trip in 2006 and my most recent trip the end of 2015. Granted the exchange rate mostly the reason why. So presents many options.

I have stayed many times Poblado and one time La 70 but this time and I cherish as to being so close to Centro day brothels I might just buy a day room in Centro then head back to Poblado or La 70 at night.

I cannot wait to eat that juicy VN or Paisa pussy with my strong tongue. I say to her in the brothel wearing her yellow panty "Quiero comer so vagina con mi lengua fuerta" LOL. Oh yo comer su vagina!

Stay horny my friends!

Cheers,

Davis.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2385605]Just my opinion from somebody who has never gone with a Fay Boo girl.[/QUOTE]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.[/QUOTE]I agree. I think the FB links should be posted only, if the girl wants it or is OK with it.

I personally know a prepago who is on fb, under different names. I put it together and asked her if she was the same person, she said yes.

She thought I had a problem with it and asked if she should unfriend me. I didn't have problem with it, we had a laugh about it.

But there are fb girls who are not hardcore and their privacy needs to be homered.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts[/QUOTE]But that is not the purpose of this board. The links are public info. If they want privacy, they can create a fake account.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.[/QUOTE]My post did not endorse the posting of links to FB girls at all, in fact I condone it just like you do. However in context to "not every girl posted is a hardcore puta", than that begs the question how did they end up on this thread unless the other mongers have been with them or know of them thru other mongers. Again I don't condone the posting that was done, but there is no way of stopping it. So I guess we all have to, "get over it". Again I think a separate Fay Boo (FB) should be created for those who go with Fay Boo girls.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2385703]BBFS on the menu?[/QUOTE]Anything and everything "just about" is available in El Centro. As an example, a few months ago I was talking with a Venezuelan and asked her how much for a session. I was quoted 30 Mil. Out of curiosity I asked her if that was without a condom for sex, aka BBFS. She said no, it's expensive for that, if you want it, it will be 5 Mil more. I declined going with her, let alone bare-backing her, but you should be able to fill in the blanks.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2385809]But that is not the purpose of this board. The links are public info. If they want privacy, they can create a fake account.[/QUOTE]It is exactly the purpose. If posted only to mine chicas and not review them the monger accounts are more valuable. But I doubt they want their friends and family to see those public links. If it's no big deal post your account. Let us mine your friends. Anyway I'm done on the subject, just saying it's more of a disservice than a service. To yourseves and the chicas. Unless actually reviewing them of course 😉.

Hi all,

I've recently left living in Thailand for the past 10 years and want to dip my toes into the Medellin scene, just to try it out for 5 or 6 days. With all the pros on this board I'm sure somebody wouldn't mind passing along some info of some clubs that cater to a 40 year old gringo that knows zero Spanish. I'm not looking for a relationship or to spend an entire day with a girl, not yet anyway. Just need some advice on where to go and the best clubs to meet working girls who are drama free. Also, are most of the 4 and 5 star hotels in Medellin guest-friendly?

Thanks all!

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.[/QUOTE]I had to look doxxed up: search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent. 21st century word that has not made it to my lexicon. Well if it is on facebook there is nothing private about it. And nobody mentioned posting these hookers for bad intent.

The girl does not have to be a hardcore hooker, but she is a known hooker. How do indy hookers get business? Advertisement. Just so happens that hookers in Medellin use Facebook as advertisement. Rio they use Tinder. Manila they use DateinAsia. Thailand, they use ThaiFriendly. I am not understanding why it is necessary to get permission to repost something that the original poster has made public. Once they put it out there in the public domain, then it is out there.

If they wanted it to be a big secret, maybe they should work in a casa in another city or not do it at all, instead of plastering themselves on the internet. And the same way you looked on facebook and figured they were hookers, you don't think anybody else they know can do the same thing? You only think this site is something special because you are on it. The majority of the world (including hardcore mongers) has no idea it even exists.

I agree with you PaisaPorFavor. I have shared some of my contacts privately and only when I have exchanged messages with the person. Even then I am careful of the names I give because I respect the girls privacy. A lot of my contacts don't necessarily have puta pics. A lot have pics of their family and kids. Fact is I don't personally know most of the readers of this board. I don't know who is out there that will treat the girls right or unfortunately mistreat them. One time one of the girls in my apartment was sharing with me pics of gringos that were either abusive or renegaded on how much they agreed to pay. There is no need to posts contacts here as there is plenty of info on how to find girls If you have a question about a girl send a private message

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2385830]Fact is I don't personally know most of the readers of this board. I don't know who is out there that will treat the girls right or unfortunately mistreat them. [/QUOTE]By that same token, you also do not know which girls whose info you passed along will try to fuck over the guy who you passed it to. Let's not sit here and pretend all these chicks are angels for eveyone they come into contact with.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2385822]Anything and everything "just about" is available in El Centro. As an example, a few months ago I was talking with a Venezuelan and asked her how much for a session. I was quoted 30 Mil. Out of curiosity I asked her if that was without a condom for sex, aka BBFS. She said no, it's expensive for that, if you want it, it will be 5 Mil more. I declined going with her, let alone bare-backing her, but you should be able to fill in the blanks.[/QUOTE]{ I asked her if that was without a condom for sex, aka BBFS. She said no, it's expensive for that, if you want it, it will be 5 Mil more }.

Let her comments be a lesson for those jokers who love to overpay. Sure it is one girl's comment, but it should be a wake up call to not overpaying.

I agree with you PaisaPorFavor. I have shared some of my contacts privately and only when I have exchanged messages with the person. Even then I am careful of the names I give because I respect the girls privacy. A lot of my contacts don't necessarily have puta pics. A lot have pics of their family and kids. Fact is I don't personally know most of the readers of this board. I don't know who is out there that will treat the girls right or unfortunately mistreat them. One time one of the girls in my apartment was sharing with me pics of gringos that were either abusive or renegaded on how much they agreed to pay. There is no need to posts contacts here as there is plenty of info on how to find girls If you have a question about a girl send a private message

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385798]Then you wouldn't know. Because not everygirl posted is a hardcore puta and wants to be doxxed here. I could just as easily put a list of links to 50 monger's fb accounts so their friends & family could easily find them but that's not respectful. All I'm saying is there is plenty of girls and mongers accounts that are easy to find why is it neccessary to post lists of girls you haven't even met? And without their permission.[/QUOTE].

I personally have never passed off a name of any that I hadn't sessioned with. Let's not think that all mongers are fun loving guys. There are a lot of of scum bags as well. There are guys that get hard ONS by humiliating or abusing a girl.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2385834]By that same token, you also do not know which girls whose info you passed along will try to fuck over the guy who you passed it to. Let's not sit here and pretend all these chicks are angels for eveyone they come into contact with.[/QUOTE].

Damn, you are dense. Go look up "typically" while you have the dictionary open because I didn't say there was malicious intent either. You are acting like a personal facebook page is a business page. While for some it may be for others you are doxxing. Consent, consent, consent. Post your personal page or suck it up and admit you have a double standard. And if you come back saying you don't have a page why are you even replying with your opinion on a subject you don't understand? No I don't think I'm special but obviously more ethical than you. Do you think you're special because you like to argue with people on ISG all day?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2385829]I had to look doxxed up: search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent. 21st century word that has not made it to my lexicon. Well if it is on facebook there is nothing private about it. And nobody mentioned posting these hookers for bad intent.

The girl does not have to be a hardcore hooker, but she is a known hooker. How do indy hookers get business? Advertisement. Just so happens that hookers in Medellin use Facebook as advertisement. Rio they use Tinder. Manila they use DateinAsia. Thailand, they use ThaiFriendly. I am not understanding why it is necessary to get permission to repost something that the original poster has made public. Once they put it out there in the public domain, then it is out there.

If they wanted it to be a big secret, maybe they should work in a casa in another city or not do it at all, instead of plastering themselves on the internet. And the same way you looked on facebook and figured they were hookers, you don't think anybody else they know can do the same thing? You only think this site is something special because you are on it. The majority of the world (including hardcore mongers) has no idea it even exists.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385846]Damn, you are dense. Go look up "typically" while you have the dictionary open because I didn't say there was malicious intent either. You are acting like a personal facebook page is a business page. While for some it may be for others you are doxxing. Consent, consent, consent. Post your personal page or suck it up and admit you have a double standard. And if you come back saying you don't have a page why are you even replying with your opinion on a subject you don't understand? No I don't think I'm special but obviously more ethical than you. Do you think you're special because you like to argue with people on ISG all day?

.[/QUOTE]No. I am acting like a personal facebook page is PUBLIC. No I do not have a personal page that I am hoeing off of. That is the difference. A page you are hoeing off of would be considered business. I have said many times before that whenever I click on these random pages that are posted I ALWAYS have friends who are mongers in common with the chick. That tells you they are using it for the fucking business sir.

As Nounce said, maybe they would be better off making a fake one as many mongers do. But carry-on dedicating yourself to saving these hoes. I doubt they would be doing the same for you. Or better fucking yet, why don't you go to the girls that you are trying to protect and teach them better? Seems like that would make more sense. But I doubt it would work, because the girls always know what they are there for. The mongers are usually the ones confused.

An ethical monger? Should be married to the hooker with a heart of gold. Neither am I a politician; guess I will get rid of my opinion on politics, since according to you, it means I do not understand it because I am not part of it.

Again reminds me of that Richard Gere movie Brooklyn's Finest when he retired and wanted to marry the hooker that he had been seeing for so many years. She had to remind his ass that she was a hooker, and not his damn girlfriend. It seems some mongers need to be reminded as well.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2385842]I personally have never passed off a name of any that I hadn't sessioned with. Let's not think that all mongers are fun loving guys. There are a lot of of scum bags as well. There are guys that get hard ONS by humiliating or abusing a girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, but remember that YMMV. Just because everything worked out in your session, does not mean it will work out in the next guy's. I think a week or 2 ago one guy was saying how this chick tried to fuck him over. Another poster spoke up and said he did not have that problem with her.

Trust me. I learned the hard way. I gave out a chick's info (with her permission) to a guy that contacted me on this board. I have no idea what went on with them, but that chick never spoke to me again. To this day I still see her out and she will not speak to me. And the monger never said anything else either. So no, I am not into giving people's PRIVATE contact info out like that. But if it is some chick that I fucked off facebook or off one of these webpages, then I see no problem with passing on the link to that. That is something that the whole world can already see regardless.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2385703]BBFS on the menu?[/QUOTE]Don't be a fool, protect your tool.

After spending a TLN with one of my El Centro SW sweethearts at Hotel Calle Real last night, I decided to check out who was out at "ground zero" (Carrea 52 & Calle 52) at 8 AM this morning.

Besides a bunch of overhung drunks and dazed glue sniffers hobbling around, there were already at least a dozen girls at ground zero looking for customers. I actually saw two I wanted to do but was leche depleted after my nympho sweetheart left.

I didn't even go along the backside of the Church to see what was out. Yesterday afternoon when I arrived at 5 PM at ground zero, it was loaded with girls, and all the side streets were packed as well. I was surprised so many girls were out this morning on election day and suspect the back street will be slow as it's a "dry day" with no liquor allowed to be sold because of the elections.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2385894]Don't be a fool, protect your tool.[/QUOTE]Maybe he wants to sharpen it as he doesn't like it when it's dull.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2385820]My post did not endorse the posting of links to FB girls at all, in fact I condone it just like you do. However in context to "not every girl posted is a hardcore puta", than that begs the question how did they end up on this thread unless the other mongers have been with them or know of them thru other mongers. Again I don't condone the posting that was done, but there is no way of stopping it. So I guess we all have to, "get over it". Again I think a separate Fay Boo (FB) should be created for those who go with Fay Boo girls.[/QUOTE]In that case should we have a separate thread for street girls, casa girls, strip club girls, photprepagos and mileroticos girls, escort service girls, Tinder girls etc?

What is it about Facebook girls that bothers you so much you can't even type "Facebook?

I'm opposed to sharing direct links on the open forum, same as I'd be opposed to sharing WhatsApp numbers on the forum. There are a few accounts that are exceptions.

The problem isn't with the regulars here. The problem is with all the lurkers, the guys who will never visit. Too many of them have nothing better to do than harass anyone they can. Why subject anyone to that?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2385877] Again reminds me of that Richard Gere movie Brooklyn's Finest when he retired and wanted to marry the hooker that he had been seeing for so many years. She had to remind his ass that she was a hooker, and not his damn girlfriend. It seems some mongers need to be reminded as well.[/QUOTE]Preach, some Monges have no idea that girls who hook, have no privacy, especially if they work daily out of a place called Parque Botero. It's your right to do as you please, but please don't fool yourself, these girls are hookers & rarely bang guys for free. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385823]It is exactly the purpose. [/QUOTE]I mean posting mongers' accounts. I agree with the point of view in rest of your post but people should know how to protect themselves.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2384560]
If someone else has an issue with what you paid, or how you handled a situation, just remember those 6 words. What you pay and what you do has no effect on anyone else.
[/QUOTE]What I learn is that it is better to not change chica's habits as they are just distractions. OP lost 43 K and the time spent by not giving in which is more than the taxi money.

[QUOTE=IguanaAlex;2385828]Hi all,

I've recently left living in Thailand for the past 10 years and want to dip my toes into the Medellin scene, just to try it out for 5 or 6 days. With all the pros on this board I'm sure somebody wouldn't mind passing along some info of some clubs that cater to a 40 year old gringo that knows zero Spanish. I'm not looking for a relationship or to spend an entire day with a girl, not yet anyway. Just need some advice on where to go and the best clubs to meet working girls who are drama free. Also, are most of the 4 and 5 star hotels in Medellin guest-friendly?

Thanks all![/QUOTE]I don't think any of the nicer hotels are guest friendly. I spent a lot of time searching and asking around. I called a few of the hotels when I couldn't get answers and none were guest friendly. I stayed at the Marriott and they wanted a lot of money to bring guests up. I am sure there are "4" star hotels that you can get away with it but for a small fee. Go on tripadvisor and look up hotels. Then go to that Hotel's Q&A section and there is always someone asking about bringing guests up to the room but the reply is always the same, you can for a lot of cash. I am going back to Medellin in a few weeks but got an Airbnb this time around to try something different. I figure if the bnb isn't my style, then I'll just book a hotel while I'm there. If you find anything worth mentioning post it in the hotel thread. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2385925]What I learn is that it is better to not change chica's habits as they are just distractions. OP lost 43 K and the time spent by not giving in which is more than the taxi money.[/QUOTE]He did not "give in" to the Chica to avoid having a bad session. I would rather lose 43 K than have a bad session. Would you have been happy with a bad session?

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2385703]BBFS on the menu?[/QUOTE]Everything has a price is my experience. But YMMV. These facebook chicas especially, literally have thousands of friend requests and random spamming asking for things as you can imagine (witnessed this first hand around 4:30 am as we woke up for round 2 : D), these FB girls essentially need to give you her time of day for you to realize for plans unlike the girls on Botero, Case de Masajes, and / or Fase (II) level places.

I have been blessed by being a decent negotiator and have found a new fondness to wine and dine the finer things in life before doing a todas las noches. I was able to Score a night with Angie, the nun at the La Mansion Party on Friday the night before for 350 Mil after negotiating to get her down from the pitched 600 Mil price, which tbh, I would have considered. I like girls that look divine, allllll night including anal, which didn't work out (blessing there actually) at the end but she is (IMO) by far the hottest of them all. Took her to Oci. Mde first, I need to eat too. Evidently, we were eating a table next to some high up politicians from the city. Any want world class food, this is your place. For 2 people, the bill didn't exceed 80 USD for me, something that I know would be around 300-350 in New York. Next TLN I do with her won't need anal, can't imagine it be too expensive in comparison as I've laid an evening of enchanted foundations. My survival mode Matrix "Kung Fu" style learning of Spanish and the frequent lookups with Google translate made it entirely too easy to connect with these women, as I said before, can't even imagine if I can speak more fluently.

Thus, IMO, If you build rapport with the chica one way or another, your shot of requesting for anything really is possible. But please imagine how awkward it is just to bang them out without the ability to communicate and make jokes / compliments, let alone all that without a condom.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2385877]I have said many times before that whenever I click on these random pages that are posted I ALWAYS have friends who are mongers in common with the chick.[/QUOTE]:( And discovering that you are not their one and only lover does not put you off?

[QUOTE=IguanaAlex;2385828]Also, are most of the 4 and 5 star hotels in Medellin guest-friendly?[/QUOTE]This is amazing. Hotels and the ultimate question [i]"are hotels girl-friendly?"[/i] are the most treated topic in this Board, even more than [i]"can I use ATMs to get cash?"[/i] and still one has to repeat:
[B]THERE IS [size=+2]NO[/size] 4star/5star hotel in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena that is girl-friendly.[/B].

(maybe Admin should write this on top of each page).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2385935]This is amazing. Hotels and the ultimate question [i]"are hotels girl-friendly?"[/i] are the most treated topic in this Board, even more than [i]"can I use ATMs to get cash?"[/i] and still one has to repeat:
[B]THERE IS NO 4star/5star hotel in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena that is girl-friendly.[/B].

(maybe Admin should write this on top of each page).[/QUOTE]You don't consider The Art Hotel at least 4 stars, it's not Charlee but albeit fancier than most already.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2385935]This is amazing. Hotels and the ultimate question [i]"are hotels girl-friendly?"[/i] are the most treated topic in this Board, even more than [i]"can I use ATMs to get cash?"[/i] and still one has to repeat:
[B]THERE IS NO 4star/5star hotel in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena that is girl-friendly.[/B].

(maybe Admin should write this on top of each page).[/QUOTE]Here is the question:

What is girl friendly?

I've seen a lot of Facebook girls, including some I know, posting pictures from Charlee Hotel, Hotel Dann Carlton and a few others. I've also seen dozens of girls coming and going from Hotel Du Parc Royal. I've stayed at 2 other hotels, which according to the front desk, allowed me to bring girls to my room, although I didn't test it. That would be Hotel Porton Medellin and Hotel Poblado Plaza. Other hotels I've been in have signs posted that no guests are allowed.

Is there an added fee? In some cases, definitely. Is it because the girls were dressed appropriately and not like an obvious prostitute? Is it because the customer is a frequent guest at the hotel and therefore gets a different set of rules?

In my opinion, most rules are somewhat flexible, if you're sensible about it. If your plan is to bring in 4 girls a day, with most of them dressed in WG wear, you're going to be out of luck. If you're bringing in a girl every few days, who is dressed properly and you're discreet, you might not have a problem.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2385893]Yes, but remember that YMMV. Just because everything worked out in your session, does not mean it will work out in the next guy's. I think a week or 2 ago one guy was saying how this chick tried to fuck him over. Another poster spoke up and said he did not have that problem with her.

Trust me. I learned the hard way. I gave out a chick's info (with her permission) to a guy that contacted me on this board. I have no idea what went on with them, but that chick never spoke to me again. To this day I still see her out and she will not speak to me. And the monger never said anything else either. So no, I am not into giving people's PRIVATE contact info out like that. But if it is some chick that I fucked off facebook or off one of these webpages, then I see no problem with passing on the link to that. That is something that the whole world can already see regardless.[/QUOTE]I learned the easy way. I saw someone else's mistake.

Last year, on a different board, a few guys got a bunch of crap from girls they had reviewed. They had taken and posted pictures, where the girl could be identified. Turned out there was a guy on the board who would read the reviews, see the pictures, then use the Facebook link to tell the girls about the post. I'm not sure what he thought he was getting out of it, but it ruined any repeats for the guys who posted.

Most of the Facebook girls I see are ones I either plan to repeat with, or want to keep on good terms with. It doesn't benefit anyone for me to throw a direct link to them on an open forum. I'm sure there's a few people, who get pissed off at me, who would happily try to get revenge by harassing some girl I enjoyed seeing.

Instead, I'll tell guys how to build their own Facebook list. This is better for them, because they can find what they're looking for without trying to repeat my experience with some girl who might not have been their first choice.

I've also given out contact info, with the girl's permission and had to read through 45 minutes of complaints about the guy. Either he was insulting, or he wasted her time, or he tried to low-ball her. Then there was my favorite: The guy pointed out he could get a girl who was better looking for 50 k in El Centro, so he was doing her a favor by offering 50 k.

For every monger who is a great guy, there's at least one asshole.

Restaurants discreetly serve alcohol in paper cups after sundown. Sidewalk beer bars behind the church have a harder time getting away with it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2385896]After spending a TLN with one of my El Centro SW sweethearts at Hotel Calle Real last night, I decided to check out who was out at "ground zero" (Carrea 52 & Calle 52) at 8 AM this morning.

Besides a bunch of overhung drunks and dazed glue sniffers hobbling around, there were already at least a dozen girls at ground zero looking for customers. I actually saw two I wanted to do but was leche depleted after my nympho sweetheart left.

I didn't even go along the backside of the Church to see what was out. Yesterday afternoon when I arrived at 5 PM at ground zero, it was loaded with girls, and all the side streets were packed as well. I was surprised so many girls were out this morning on election day and suspect the back street will be slow as it's a "dry day" with no liquor allowed to be sold because of the elections.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2385896]I was surprised so many girls were out this morning on election day and suspect the back street will be slow as it's a "dry day" with no liquor allowed to be sold because of the elections.[/QUOTE]I see that all bars are closed.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2385908]In that case should we have a separate thread for street girls, casa girls, strip club girls, photprepagos and mileroticos girls, escort service girls, Tinder girls etc?

What is it about Facebook girls that bothers you so much you can't even type "Facebook??[/QUOTE]It's just a matter of numbers, there appears to be more and more posts about Fay Boo chicas then all the other categories. So what would be so bad about a separate thread for the street girls, etc. As an example, for Tijuana Mexico they have things broken out that way and in other countries as well. I would think the Fay Boo guys would like this. If your one of those guys wouldn't you like it instead of having to sort thru a whole mish mash of posts.

I been lurking Medellin board lately preparing for trip in November and I don't see a need for a FB thread and I'm with a couple other members who say do you own work be your own man. These forums give you all the tips you need and if you have any common sense, mongering experience, guile you should do alright. I took the info and got busy on FB and got a wicked roster, of course I won't know if they are duds until I touchdown but some are so fine and hella cool. I sent a few messages on messenger most responded, most accepted friend request and several dropped the WhatsApp. It helps to known Spanish but like it's been said on this board some game is needed to get started and your dollars can help you get across that finish line. This Medellin thread is live can't wait to touchdown and pay the forum back wit reports.... in addition that post with all those Facebook links , not any of the girls I talked to were on there , I say that to say I can imagine the 10’s of thousands of profiles that are out there , do you own work pick what u like

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2385935]This is amazing. Hotels and the ultimate question [i]"are hotels girl-friendly?"[/i] are the most treated topic in this Board, even more than [i]"can I use ATMs to get cash?"[/i] and still one has to repeat:
[B]THERE IS NO 4star/5star hotel in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena that is girl-friendly.[/B].

(maybe Admin should write this on top of each page).[/QUOTE]I'm planning a trip to Cartagena before Medellin I was going to stay at the Intercontinental until they said a guest would be $100 PLUS taxes LOL Hotel Portóand in Medellin said it's 150,000 pesos for guest and that looks like about a 4 star just to give the other poster and idea. It can be done but it's going to cost, I suppose if the pockets are deep or you don't plan on having many it's doable.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2385934]:( And discovering that you are not their one and only lover does not put you off?[/QUOTE]LOL what would it put you off? I was looking a FB chick friends list for more girls and saw this one guy and I had 6 mutual friends, Colombianas and Dominicanas I almost sent him a friend request just bcuz we got so many common friends LOL. SHE IS NOT YOURS. It's akin to being mad because you ate off the same plate as the previous customer at a restaurant, as long as it was washed and it's clean don't think about it and it won't bother you LOL.

I think this is a new girl. The last time I saw her, she was with the forth customers walking to a short time hotel on Cr 53. The gringo in the picture is the second customer I know tonight.

[QUOTE=IguanaAlex;2385828]are most of the 4 and 5 star hotels in Medellin guest-friendly?[/QUOTE]This is one of the areas that Thailand wins. If you have a high enough member status for US chain hotel, they may not charge you. It is worth asking.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2385987]I'm planning a trip to Cartagena before Medellin I was going to stay at the Intercontinental until they said a guest would be $100 PLUS taxes LOL Hotel Portand in Medellin said it's 150,000 pesos for guest and that looks like about a 4 star just to give the other poster and idea. It can be done but it's going to cost, I suppose if the pockets are deep or you don't plan on having many it's doable.[/QUOTE]Its not an issue if you plan to wife up or have a single chica visit multiple times, if you book double then that select chica can come and go as often as you like. Atleast that is the rule at the Porton. Every subsequent chica is 150 mil per visit. Totally ridiculous and best you find a love motel.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2386001]This is one of the areas that Thailand wins. If you have a high enough member status for US chain hotel, they may not charge you. It is worth asking.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Dann Carlton and they did not charge me extra for guest.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2372627]There are tons of things you can say. I would probably say: 1. Quiero mirarte juntos con la otra chica. I want to watch you together with the other girl. You could also say: 2. Quiero ver tu lingua dentro de su vagina. I want to see your tongue inside of her vagina. 3. Como vas hacer la otra chica tener orgasmo? How are you going to make the other girl cum? No thing in particular to say.[/QUOTE]Thank so much for the advice, I put them to good use last night. I picked up two girls who were most excited about question two and three. I had one of the best Threesome ever.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2385270]You all are ruining the scene for yourselves posting all these fb links. Next time the girls are going to charge you more and be ignoring messages because 100 dudes from omaha who never plan to travel spam them.[/QUOTE]Don't you think these women have a way to filter out "time wasters"? These women are pros in filtering out the spam. Some these women will be grateful that they got free advertising.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2385992]LOL what would it put you off?[/QUOTE]Thank you for reminding me that "SHE IS NOT YOURS", but it looks like getting irony and jokes is not your strong point. I am sure Mr. E had fun reading it.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2386003] Every subsequent chica is 150 mil per visit. Totally ridiculous and best you find a love motel.[/QUOTE]I won't copy and paste here the long posts on this issue (TONS!) but I will just repeat that those 4/5 star hotels do whatever they can to keep "occasional guests" well away from their premises. This is Colombia, not SEA, and the local mindset is different. We have to understand and adjust our strategies accordingly.

In Four Points Sheraton I dared to ask one night around 10 pm, with a girl that I presented as novia and was dressed totally normal. They asked me an extra fee that was even higher than the daily fee I was paying for my 10 days stay, say about 250 k (I was on business).

With 150 k in Medellin you can rent not a room, but a suite for a group, jacuzzi, steam bath, anything in the most luxurious motels in Medellin.

How about asking them first? Or maybe they should post your link and face pics as a good customer? Would you like that? After all they are just helping you.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2386066]Don't you think these women have a way to filter out "time wasters"? These women are pros in filtering out the spam. Some these women will be grateful that they got free advertising.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2386082]How about asking them first? Or maybe they should post your link and face pics as a good customer? Would you like that? After all they are just helping you.[/QUOTE]Standing ovation!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2385999]I think this is a new girl. The last time I saw her, she was with the forth customers walking to a short time hotel on Cr 53. The gringo in the picture is the second customer I know tonight.[/QUOTE]It's kind of hard to see anything in your photos from since a long distance, however I understand your trepidation to take close ups though.

I am confused regarding the " new girl" you were referring to in that there are "new girls" daily in El Centro. Besides the boat loads of Venezuelans showing up daily, there are a lot of part timers, mothers that come out only when they are short of money. I have some of them in my stable, it's nice because they are not like the hardcore girls plying El Centro every day. I am always on the lookout for part timers, specifically Colombians, who are performers to add to my stable.

Condensed Report of an overall successful and safe trip. Attached are all the chicas worth posting this trip.

Managed to bang a plethora of different girls from multiple sources mainly from botero, Photoprepago's, and the highlight of my trip has to be the single Facebook girl that imo is the hottest of them all comparing to all the other Facebook groups. IMO, this chick belongs in a place like Fase (II) or Las Islas. Anyone that went to the Halloween Party at the Mansion this past Friday should.

Have noticed a nun, she is it.

One part of town that I never really scoured for hoes is Parque Lleras. I actually mistaken a normal girl sitting alone in that part to be a hoe. LOL oops, sorry. That area seems like a much more expensive botero with no access to quickly motel rooms to immediate satisfaction. Not sure if I will ever go there to look for some. Though the majority of my non-pussy budget was spend on the many great restaurants in the area.

This place is safe for a big city, if you don't chase the drugs, it don't chase you. I've seen maybe a gram of coke in front of me all trip, though, around an Oz (28 g) of premo weed for Canada was smoked largely in public, you can see the uniforms from a mile away. It's actually pretty hard to get robbed here, if you see a beggar, you can throw a propina for his existence (1000 mil coin) they get very very happy and never posted a threat. I believe all the gringo horror stories comes from people acting a fool like walk around drunk late at night, do that here in Brooklyn, the results might be similar.

I fux with this place hard. Wonder people and food, a real slice of heaven on Earth. I won't be able to take time off away til at least April but I know a bit from everything there this trip, next trip going to get way more lit. If I can do few things over:

1. Fuck getting hotels. Airbnb full apartment is the way to go. I wanted mucho dinero on motel rooms as my main location is not chica friendly.

2. forget the short quickies, only todas las noche with the hottest. It more til to connect. I've had 13 encounters this trip, most are not as memorable compared to the TLN's.

3. not make anal the priority. It's out there to get gotten easily but if he chick is super hot, and your dick is not as thin as a pencil, it won't work like in the pornos, maybe next time I need to chick to wear a buttplug wayyyy before our date hehe.

Final thought: if you half decent looking and not a fat ass, you can skip the tour guide pimps or places like La Mansion. It just needs only a minute of confidence to ask these girls. Always negotiate, they have never ever turned down a reasonable lower price. You in a bargaining / tipping society. If you bringing dollars, try not to let a price differential of 28 $ stop you from getting the hottest chick. It's a few bucks to you, think about it as having to pay an uber to fuck your regular girl back home. It's literally not worth the fuss, everyone is happy and you get a goood TLN.

Attached are my top hoes this trip. Angie in particular, I can see myself wanting to get her for a whole week. Not trying to dwell on a pro hoe but she is by far hottest of them all.

Images: Samantha (PP) Anal Vixen, Mariana (Botero) Anal Queen, Isabella of Cali (FaseII), and Angie (Nun at Mansion Party, Also a Facebook Chica) 2nd Angie Pic, that's weed in a rolling paper, I used her stomach as a rolling tray.

I find it hilarious that people are upset about posting facebook girls profile pages which is only giving them more business but yet have no issue with people on here posting nude pics with girls full nude bodies and faces in them on this board. What's the difference between posting a facebook link vs recommending an escort from a website like photo prepago to the members of this site?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2386082]How about asking them first? Or maybe they should post your link and face pics as a good customer? Would you like that? After all they are just helping you.

.[/QUOTE]It would only make sense in this context if it is posted on a chica board.

If I were a neighbor of one of the facebook girls. Do you think I am going to tell her family what I found out that the girl is a puta from ISG?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2386082]How about asking them first? Or maybe they should post your link and face pics as a good customer? Would you like that? After all they are just helping you.

.[/QUOTE]You guys use your real face book profile when contacting these girls?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2385934]:( And discovering that you are not their one and only lover does not put you off?[/QUOTE]What cracks me up is when they call them their girl friend.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2386147]It would only make sense in this context if it is posted on a chica board.

If I were a neighbor of one of the facebook girls. Do you think I am going to tell her family what I found out that the girl is a puta from ISG?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't either but believe me that there are others that would. Lots of petty jealousies and neighbor vs neighbor or ex boyfriend or friend who lost her boyfriend to the girl. Lots of possibilities to out someone. Why not just share privately or ask approval?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2385962]Restaurants discreetly serve alcohol in paper cups after sundown. Sidewalk beer bars behind the church have a harder time getting away with it.[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed this last year as well, but not in Poblado though, I was in a barrio in Bello and places were selling beers.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386139]Condensed Report of an overall successful and safe trip.
. If I can do few things over:

1. Fuck getting hotels. Airbnb full apartment is the way to go. I wanted mucho dinero on motel rooms as my main location is not chica friendly.

2. forget the short quickies, only todas las noche with the hottest. It more til to connect. I've had 13 encounters this trip, most are not as memorable compared to the TLN's.

3. not make anal the priority. It's out there to get gotten easily but if he chick is super hot, and your dick is not as thin as a pencil, it won't work like in the pornos, maybe next time I need to chick to wear a buttplug wayyyy before our date hehe..[/QUOTE]So for the three things your suggesting, are those for others besides yourself?

Skipping suggestions one and two, suggestion number three is a dandy for sure. So your saying next time that won't be a priority for you, however for others they shouldn't make it a priority (assuming it is for others) unless they have a pencil dick.

Regardless of my comments to your posts past and present, what counts is you had a great trip.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2386219]So for the three things your suggesting, are those for others besides yourself?

Skipping suggestions one and two, suggestion number three is a dandy for sure. So your saying next time that won't be a priority for you, however for others they shouldn't make it a priority (assuming it is for others) unless they have a pencil dick.

Regardless of my comments to your posts past and present, what counts is you had a great trip.[/QUOTE]Great Reaction.

So yea, Expanding on Surfer500's comment, almost every fucking girl in Medellin especially the thicker ones working in El Centro streets or centro strips clubs will do anal if the price is right. And Guys Please. If you want ass, Don't argue with the chica over a 14.50 USD price differential. Have some humility for yourself. Facebook chicks that do do anal will obviously cost more if you are bigger downstairs or a Spanish-less gringo. Thats just how it goes. This ISG thing is capitalist, for every discounted night a smart-monger gets, someone the subsequent nights going to pay that -Price differential hehe. The chica needs the pay the same rent, bills, and needs money for their kids. Some of y[all willing to go BBFS, so, I propose, if the poon don't stink, eat it. Learn to eat it well. It can net surprising financial gains for you. Leave it at that. Facebook chicas are not full time hoes, those are botero, casa, strip club hoes which are entirely accessible. The non pro hoes like FB or tinder seem to want some romance attached to it all. Fuck me for saying it but I would like to believe that the pussy got wetter from the 5-star dinner after a good meal, drinks and a good blunt we just had. As oppose to str8 banging the hoe for 45 minutes with water based lube in a Mansion somewhere, Quien Sabe.

Some facebook chicks (full-time La Mansion, partime FB hoe) will do it but my one experience so far shouldn't speak for anything but out of the 10 out 13 encounters with anal involved, most didn't end well or the girl was obviously in distress except for Samantha (PP) and Mariana (Botero). The FB chick was the only one chica that has been review on this board off my list, I think. But I'd imagine if your "member" is thinner than the usually fat painful shits a she takes on the regular, you good to go my man! To Mars* and beyond!

*I made need to hit Brazil one year, but as far as having ass ready when I land into Medellin, I already have a list on whatsapp hehe. Will need to kamikaze-learn some Portuguese as well.

At any situation, whether it be on deez streets or at a strip club, alllll you need to do is to muster up those balls and ask one you want if they will take a dick in the butt straight up, WORST case, she will find you an "amiga" that does. Fellows, you ain't got nothing but a win here, it just takes fucking retard level Spanish, or whip out your google-app and go at it. As a matter of fact, I would find a group of no more than 3 chicas and ask them if any of them did anal. Again, you have nothing to lose and playing the statistics game.

Spanish is crucial. Speak like a retard is FINE. They will they you. Have Data! Google translate one thing, remember it, next time look up something new. The more words you learn to use and say correctly especially in moments where you are flirting with the chicas, again builds rapport and gets you a further and better experience with the chica. Even talking to the locals like Taxi or uber drivers, It was fucking important to get myself understood for meaningful interactions.

Final Note: I got defensive months ago when a senior member, don't remember who, made a comment about not chasing other's chicas or fantasies. Aside from spoiling the shit out of "The Nun" with what. Dinner? (but paying a gooood anal-TLN), I can't agree more. So yea, its easy to find hoes here, just have slightly bigger balls than now and ask them str8 up on deez streets. Have a pencil dick, those get through.

Happens all the time. Google [URL]thedirty.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2386155]I wouldn't either but believe me that there are others that would. Lots of petty jealousies and neighbor vs neighbor or ex boyfriend or friend who lost her boyfriend to the girl. Lots of possibilities to out someone. Why not just share privately or ask approval?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386139]Condensed Report of an overall successful and safe trip. Attached are all the chicas worth posting this trip.

Managed to bang a plethora of different girls from multiple sources mainly from botero, Photoprepago's, and the highlight of my trip has to be the single Facebook girl that imo is the hottest of them all comparing to all the other Facebook groups. IMO, this chick belongs in a place like Fase (II) or Las Islas. Anyone that went to the Halloween Party at the Mansion this past Friday should.

Have noticed a nun, she is it.

One part of town that I never really scoured for hoes is Parque Lleras. I actually mistaken a normal girl sitting alone in that part to be a hoe. LOL oops, sorry. That area seems like a much more expensive botero with no access to quickly motel rooms to immediate satisfaction. Not sure if I will ever go there to look for some. Though the majority of my non-pussy budget was spend on the many great restaurants in the area.

This place is safe for a big city, if you don't chase the drugs, it don't chase you. I've seen maybe a gram of coke in front of me all trip, though, around an Oz (28 g) of premo weed for Canada was smoked largely in public, you can see the uniforms from a mile away. It's actually pretty hard to get robbed here, if you see a beggar, you can throw a propina for his existence (1000 mil coin) they get very very happy and never posted a threat. I believe all the gringo horror stories comes from people acting a fool like walk around drunk late at night, do that here in Brooklyn, the results might be similar.

I fux with this place hard. Wonder people and food, a real slice of heaven on Earth. I won't be able to take time off away til at least April but I know a bit from everything there this trip, next trip going to get way more lit. If I can do few things over:

1. Fuck getting hotels. Airbnb full apartment is the way to go. I wanted mucho dinero on motel rooms as my main location is not chica friendly.

2. forget the short quickies, only todas las noche with the hottest. It more til to connect. I've had 13 encounters this trip, most are not as memorable compared to the TLN's.

3. not make anal the priority. It's out there to get gotten easily but if he chick is super hot, and your dick is not as thin as a pencil, it won't work like in the pornos, maybe next time I need to chick to wear a buttplug wayyyy before our date hehe.

Final thought: if you half decent looking and not a fat ass, you can skip the tour guide pimps or places like La Mansion. It just needs only a minute of confidence to ask these girls. Always negotiate, they have never ever turned down a reasonable lower price. You in a bargaining / tipping society. If you bringing dollars, try not to let a price differential of 28 $ stop you from getting the hottest chick. It's a few bucks to you, think about it as having to pay an uber to fuck your regular girl back home. It's literally not worth the fuss, everyone is happy and you get a goood TLN.

Attached are my top hoes this trip. Angie in particular, I can see myself wanting to get her for a whole week. Not trying to dwell on a pro hoe but she is by far hottest of them all.

Images: Samantha (PP) Anal Vixen, Mariana (Botero) Anal Queen, Isabella of Cali (FaseII), and Angie (Nun at Mansion Party, Also a Facebook Chica) 2nd Angie Pic, that's weed in a rolling paper, I used her stomach as a rolling tray.[/QUOTE]Dope report! Nice chicas too. You had fun in the pussy paradise.

You touched on the TLNs. I am telling you, Medellin has to be the only place on earth where you get a TLN with an 8 and up for the cheapest amount of dinero.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2386148]You guys use your real face book profile when contacting these girls?[/QUOTE]No way Jose.

Was in El Centro twice today, in the morning I arrived at 10 AM looking for new talent to add to the stable, and came back later at 5 PM. Not a lot of Chicas out at 10 AM, but at 5 PM it is was like Grand Central Station at what I call "Ground Zero" at the intersection of Calle 52 & Carrera 52. There were lots of thinner prettier girls out, primarily Venezolanas, more so than I have ever seen there. It was swarming with Chicas and I easily counted over 100 of them within only a fifty foot radius of the street post with signage for Calle / Carrera 52 in the pedestrian pathway.

I have also noticed an uptick in reduced availability of rooms at the surrounding Love Motels. On Saturday when I was there I met one one of my regulars at 10 AM at my preferred Love Motel, and they didn't have any short time rooms available. If your into SW's, feel comfortable in El Centro, and have some Spanish speaking skills, the place cannot be beat in my book.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2386148]You guys use your real face book profile when contacting these girls?[/QUOTE]Not just the girls in Medellin sells information. Number 1 reason it was so hard to catch Pablo. He knew everything before it even happened, and certain people in Medellin know what happens before it happens. Trust me, I once had a fake facebook page and get this guys, get this, the name I used was Peter. To this day, everyone in Medellin calls me Peter. If you think the neighbors don't know what their neighbors do in Medellin, you are beyond crazy. Never reveal anything personal about yourself in Medellin or be ready to be extorted, trust me! I've seen Medellin at its grimey-iest. Don't fool yourself, Medellin and information are not to be taken for granted. Guard your privacy with your life! Pollo negro is out!

I know you people have spoken about how you can get viagra / cialis from the pharmacyst in Medellin without a prescription, can we also get priligy or paroxetine?(P. E drugs).

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386145]I find it hilarious that people are upset about posting facebook girls profile pages which is only giving them more business but yet have no issue with people on here posting nude pics with girls full nude bodies and faces in them on this board. What's the difference between posting a facebook link vs recommending an escort from a website like photo prepago to the members of this site?[/QUOTE]Can't figure out how its breaching the privacy of these women when their profiles have:

1. "Public" photos of themselves in bikini in Energy, Blux, in a hot tub etc.

2. Atleast 50 gringos as friends with names like "FirstName CityName ".

3. Every public post on the timeline has likes from these gringos and comments of "linda", "divina", "hermosa" from Spanish challenged mongers.

4. It does not take one to be level 9001 FB hacker to find these profiles which are created in a specific way to tell the whole world that it belongs to a "working girl".

Next you guys will tell not to share Photoprepagos links to respect the privacy of those working girls.

P. S: Doxxing is not what the term means the way it was used here. Doxxing is when somebody reveals real name or personal information of an anonymous / semi-anonymous account.

E. g: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html[/URL].

All this talk about whether it is OK to post Facebook girls profiles on here prompted me to want to help guys that are searching for them. I posted a few in an earlier post. No chica that I asked said that it was a bad idea. They want more business. Are there maybe some of the chicas who would rather not have their profile posted? Maybe, but I doubt if it is the majority. I personally got a little selfish about the ideal of posting more profiles, because I spent hours and hours building the list that I have, someone posted a Gringo mongerer profile that got me started - which is searchable by the way - search thread for Facebook - then once I got started it is like the saying that one door opens two more and so on, I believe that I have over 400 prepagos profiles in my list now. Only about 150 or so flakas that I think are in the pretty to hot ranking. Now I want to show members who do not already know a tell tell sign that they are looking at a prepago profile. I actually have not confirmed this but I very strongly suspect that it is the case because so many of the prepagos that friend requested me have this type of photo on their profile. Its the horns that I mentioned in an earlier post. Images included this time so that members can see the variety of ways it is indicated, sometimes very obviously. Sometimes more subtly.

This is a late report of my Medellin adventures late last month and early Oct.

Thanks to WorldTravel69 's meticulous map, went for a reconnaissance trip the day I landed in Medellin. Scoped out the Centro area and SWs around the area and also the Raudal area.

Was drizzling a bit but sudden heavy downpour started and I took refuge in a bar area at the corner of the Raudal SW corner. There were quite a few SW sitting around but one particular voluptuous one caught my eye and we made eye contact. I approached her with broken Spanish and she said it was 40 k for short time and 10 k for the habitacion. Agreed to the proposal and she let me through the streets to a short time hotel which was accessed through a flight of stairs on the 2nd floor. Later was able to co-relate that this was Hotel Tentacion in WorldTravel69's map.

The stairs were packed like sardines with a variety of other SWs who were also taking shelter from the rain and I could shortlist a couple more whom I could hook up with later.

Now coming back to by SW, she was one curvy mama, the kind I like and all natural set of boobs and an ass to match. I broke my Medellin SW cherry with her once inside the room.

She gave me a CBJ. I offered her propina for upgrade to BBBJ but she did not budge.

Next she was riding me with all gutso and we also did doggy where I came hard. Then we cuddled a bit and exchanged numbers for Whatsapp in case I wanted her for TLN. Found out her name is Maria Fernanda and she advertises in some websites as well.

Not a bad start to SW hunting in Medellin! 50 K in all, not bad at all!

Later she Whatsapped me her pics with face blurred.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386558]I know you people have spoken about how you can get viagra / cialis from the pharmacyst in Medellin without a prescription, can we also get priligy or paroxetine?(P. E drugs).[/QUOTE]Any small pharmacy will give you. But if you can't there are many generics that work just as well for cheaper. There a minty one that you can chew that found to work even better.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386558]I know you people have spoken about how you can get viagra / cialis from the pharmacyst in Medellin without a prescription, can we also get priligy or paroxetine?(P. E drugs).[/QUOTE]I was also wondering if PreP-Prophylaxis is at all available in the city, didn't get around going to a drug store to ask and just don't know enough about it be asking to take it prescription-less. For some reason, its not wayyyy more popular here. It is certainly like a staple tool for New Yorkers especially in the LGBTQ community as they are more prone to HIV. The general population has just never heard of it. I asked my tour guide on Day1 (you only maybe need a guide; actual pimp; for a few hours to catch the ropes) if he has ever heard of it, he shook his head in excitement lmao.

But has anyone every gotten PreP or a generic prophylaxis so you can raw-dog chicas relatively "safely"? Yes, I know, It doesn't guard against everything, but it guards against the worst IMO.

Tons are interested in BBFS but realistically I can't see a better way to get what you want and not have to roll as risky of a dice.

Personally, I would pay up to 50 Mil per dose if it means the ability to hit it raw, shit, maybe even more.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2386612]Later she Whatsapped me her pics with face blurred.[/QUOTE]That's a 40 k pesos street walker? Brah, I need to stop visiting this website before my trip cause pictures like this have me salivating. What's crazy is every single facebook girl that these guys are paying 150-250 k for looks average to me & then you post a 40 k sw that has the body I like & it reminds me that we men all have different taste in women & that in Colombia you can find whatever you want.

There's little doubt that many if not most of these FB chicas use the platform for advertising. The 2 FB chicas I've seen this week both have a separate FB profile for family and friends that has stringent security settings and not gringo friends. What's more both do not use their real name in their fake profile (s).

I've already spotted an alternative profile for tonight's chica.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2386148]You guys use your real face book profile when contacting these girls?[/QUOTE]Hell NO! I like to keep my private life private!

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386746]That's a 40 k pesos street walker? [/QUOTE]40K? Damn Medellin is expensive. In Santa Fe in Bogota it would only be 30K!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386845]40K? Damn Medellin is expensive. In Santa Fe in Bogota it would only be 30K![/QUOTE]But you can't tell the ones without boots on the ground this information or they will think you're pulling their leg, I have a flight booked for mid November! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386746]That's a 40 k pesos street walker?.[/QUOTE]Yes that is, you need to take a walk on the wild side of Medellin in El Centro!

You just might abandon those Fay Boo Chicas that everyone is enamored with here in Medellin.

I appreciate you having posted all these chicas links. I haven't really gone down the Facebook route, but I had a good look at a lot of their pages. Firstly, many of them aren't showing friends, and many of those that do have a typical list of friends (ie it's their genuine account), ie family, male and female friends etc. So if you start messaging to random decent looking women you may well be barking up the wrong tree! The few profiles who are obviously touting for business and who show their friends, mainly have male friends obviously!

If anything, you're more likely to see a good list of chicas if you check one of the male friend of the hooker's list of friends! Are you still following me? On the whole though, I'm still not convinced about this scene, if you click on a friend of a friend etc you just end up going down a rabbit hole and forget where you started. Or is there a better way? I am yet to find any kind of magical link to some Medellin Facebook hooker network! Maybe they have one where they just like to chat between themselves?

And looking at random friends of people is a pretty unlikely way to find your particular type, compared to say a website of prepagos where I am interested in say 1 out of 50 women. Likewise walking along any busy street in Medellin. On the random occasion I have tried this Facebook method, I have written to several chicas and get back very short answers. Even when another contributor here even PM'd me the profile of a chica who he was sure was available, it was the same story.

Anyway, like I said I was just wondering. I was in Medellin for a month until a week ago and had a blast, got laid left right and centre, mainly from internet prepagos. Still need to post all about my trip once I recover and get used to being back in boring Belgium!

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2385203]Facebook Medellin Chicas Short List.

I am sure this is just a small sample of the thousands who are on Facebook and available "for fun. " But these are the ones I am friends with on Facebook. In my past few trips there, I have chatted with them, but did not have time to get with them all. There are really TOO MANY.

Between Facebook, Tinder, the casas, the bars / clubs, other online hook-up sites and simply pounding the pavement to search for and meet chicas, no one should have any issues finding a chica when in Medellin.

But this short FB chica list should help tremendously:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009023461320[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isbell.ateh[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mairaalejandra.correaherrera.3[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013077308802[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isabale.perez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/sarita.maya.35[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/paolitha.monteneg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/CARLA.molinazapata[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/heylen.restrepo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/higuita.jimena[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/isabel.acuna.167[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/angiie.zapatahenao[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/kateriinG[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luisa.gomez.58323[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/laurita.mejiaarenas[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/leidy.zapata.31149359[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/dianamarcela.ossaacevedo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/paola.mejia.1447342[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yura.guerra.9[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/solome.velezlopez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008891327049[/URL]

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[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386728]I was also wondering if PreP-Prophylaxis is at all available in the city, didn't get around going to a drug store to ask and just don't know enough about it be asking to take it prescription-less. For some reason, its not wayyyy more popular here. It is certainly like a staple tool for New Yorkers especially in the LGBTQ community as they are more prone to HIV. The general population has just never heard of it. I asked my tour guide on Day1 (you only maybe need a guide; actual pimp; for a few hours to catch the ropes) if he has ever heard of it, he shook his head in excitement lmao.

But has anyone every gotten PreP or a generic prophylaxis so you can raw-dog chicas relatively "safely"? Yes, I know, It doesn't guard against everything, but it guards against the worst IMO.

Tons are interested in BBFS but realistically I can't see a better way to get what you want and not have to roll as risky of a dice.

Personally, I would pay up to 50 Mil per dose if it means the ability to hit it raw, shit, maybe even more.[/QUOTE]Dude, BBFS and in the back door? With or without PreP that's on the cliffs edge. To each his own, but that is going right down danger alley and hopefully you are in the clear.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2386903]I appreciate you having posted all these chicas links. I haven't really gone down the Facebook route, but I had a good look at a lot of their pages. Firstly, many of them aren't showing friends, and many of those that do have a typical list of friends (ie it's their genuine account), ie family, male and female friends etc. So if you start messaging to random decent looking women you may well be barking up the wrong tree! The few profiles who are obviously touting for business and who show their friends, mainly have male friends obviously!

If anything, you're more likely to see a good list of chicas if you check one of the male friend of the hooker's list of friends! Are you still following me? On the whole though, I'm still not convinced about this scene, if you click on a friend of a friend etc you just end up going down a rabbit hole and forget where you started. Or is there a better way? I am yet to find any kind of magical link to some Medellin Facebook hooker network! Maybe they have one where they just like to chat between themselves?

And looking at random friends of people is a pretty unlikely way to find your particular type, compared to say a website of prepagos where I am interested in say 1 out of 50 women. Likewise walking along any busy street in Medellin. On the random occasion I have tried this Facebook method, I have written to several chicas and get back very short answers. Even when another contributor here even PM'd me the profile of a chica who he was sure was available, it was the same story.

Anyway, like I said I was just wondering. I was in Medellin for a month until a week ago and had a blast, got laid left right and centre, mainly from internet prepagos. Still need to post all about my trip once I recover and get used to being back in boring Belgium![/QUOTE]If you want to know why the girls are short in their answers if they answer at all, the answer can be determined from this pic. Look how many guys have liked this photo that was posted only 11 minutes before. Over 200 ! How many guys do you think would be sending messages to them daily. Probably dozens. Mostly time wasting men that claim to be coming to town soon.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2386903]I haven't really gone down the Facebook route, but I had a good look at a lot of their pages. On the whole though, I'm still not convinced about this scene. On the random occasion I have tried this Facebook method, I have written to several chicas and get back very short answers. Even when another contributor here even PM'd me the profile of a chica who he was sure was available, it was the same story.
[/QUOTE]What the duck? How could you not be convinced about the Facebook scene when tons of guys are doing it everyday and this is the only way that some guys get their girls? It has been explained here at nauseum how it works.

What have you been writing to them saying? What are you expecting them to say back? Don't make too much science and theory out of it when it is really very simple. Click on the chick and send her a massage saying Estas disponible para hacer una cita? Are you available for a date? That is the same way I do it on the webpages. Don't make brain surgery out of picking up a hooker.

[QUOTE=Grrrr;2386937]If you want to know why the girls are short in their answers if they answer at all, the answer can be determined from this pic. Look how many guys have liked this photo that was posted only 11 minutes before. Over 200 ! How many guys do you think would be sending messages to them daily. Probably dozens. Mostly time wasting men that claim to be coming to town soon.[/QUOTE]Fucking textbook explanation. There needs to be a facbook thread with your post and that picture pinned to the top. Guys act like these chicks are supposed to be just sitting around bored waiting for them instead of trying to run a business. That is why I say hit them up when you are ready for action, not weeks before on some bullshit.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2386898]Yes that is, you need to take a walk on the wild side of Medellin in El Centro!

You just might abandon those Fay Boo Chicas that everyone is enamored with here in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I concur with you Surfer500. Was lining up with FB chicas prior to SWs and was being quoted in range of 150 k to 200 k for an hour plus uber charges.

But once tasted SWs there is no looking back.

Also learnt in the process, these same SW chicas which make 30 K in Centro may have FB pages where they hookup with gringos in Poblado for 150 200 K.

Its like buying the same Dollar Tree stuff in a swanky mall with bloated price tag!

Don't want to debate here on this but both have its pros and cons!!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2386903]I appreciate you having posted all these chicas links. I haven't really gone down the Facebook route, but I had a good look at a lot of their pages. Firstly, many of them aren't showing friends, and many of those that do have a typical list of friends (ie it's their genuine account), ie family, male and female friends etc. So if you start messaging to random decent looking women you may well be barking up the wrong tree! The few profiles who are obviously touting for business and who show their friends, mainly have male friends obviously!

If anything, you're more likely to see a good list of chicas if you check one of the male friend of the hooker's list of friends!

I'm still not convinced about this scene you just end up going down a rabbit hole and forget where you started. Or is there a better way?

I have written to several chicas and get back very short answers.

Anyway, like I said I was just wondering. I was in Medellin for a month until a week ago and had a blast, got laid left right and centre, mainly from internet prepagos. Still need to post all about my trip once I recover and get used to being back in boring Belgium![/QUOTE]I just made a post explaining that I have about 400 Facebook Prepagos in my friends list, So personally I am Very convinced about this scene. I would probably have closer to 600 if I went for the thick chicas but I like thin women and have gotten to the point that I do not accept the request of nor seek out the thicker ones anymore. I did at first because I was using the logic that the larger my network of friends in Medellin the more I could get by the Facebook police and the more prepagos I would see come up in my suggested friends. I now have around 125 chicas that I consider "pretty" or "cute" and about 75 that are smoking hot in my list.

To be serious about building a list of Friends from scratch without any monger profiles to start you off is an endeavor, it is not something you can dabble at. It takes a little determination. It takes time. I was so happy when I had like 30, but I still kept at it. A couple of hours after work each night. Over a period of about two months total up until now. I too found myself going down the rabbit hole at first but then I taught myself to be systematic. I started with a profile that had their friend list open and I started working my way down the friends list one at a time looking at each profiles photos. If she looked prepago. Any chica who has gringo male friends. Any photo of her in her underwear or any photo of her with horns and bam. You found one. Then open that profile in a separate window because that's the next one you search. When you see a gringo's profile, check if his profile shows his friends, very few do but if they do, that is the mother load. After you build a small list of prepagos, start checking your suggested friend feed, some will show up there. Male friend are not really good for finding prepagos - at least not Colombian male friends, gringo male friends are.

Some chicas I was iffy about then I would message them with a short message. 'Voy a Medellin , haces citas con gringos?' One of the most popular answers I get is. "Dale" - I looked it up and still do not know what the fuck it actually means but its a good answer. Sometimes they say 'listo'. Sometimes they say 'Amor un placer'. Out of the 50 or so that I have had to message, three were not prepagos. And one of them is that list you referenced in your post. So who knows.

As the other members pointed out, these chicas are getting their phones blown up by countless guys who are never going to know the pleasure of sucking on the chicas titties, its probably the most annoying part of their business, as I was laying on the bed with my pnis in these chicas mouths their phones would be on the nightstand buzzing and buzzing probably from messages from some numbnuts who just jacked off to the latest photo she posted but will never know what her tits tasted like.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386845]40K? Damn Medellin is expensive. In Santa Fe in Bogota it would only be 30K![/QUOTE]True. Very true. That's what I paid in Medellin too in Centro after my first SW encounter.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2386746]That's a 40 k pesos street walker? Brah, I need to stop visiting this website before my trip cause pictures like this have me salivating. What's crazy is every single facebook girl that these guys are paying 150-250 k for looks average to me & then you post a 40 k sw that has the body I like & it reminds me that we men all have different taste in women & that in Colombia you can find whatever you want.[/QUOTE]Yes my friend! El Centro like a Disneyland for mongers.

But just like Disneyland, its not for everyone.

The photos were spot on just a tad bit photoshopped on the skin color part.

The afternoon on my Day 1 in Medellin it was raining heavily and had to abandon any further SW adventure and tried to sample the casa fare. Had both good and bad experiences in casas of Medellin.

Zero-ed in on Aisha Spa Masculino and gave them a heads up I will be there in 15 minutes. The entrance can be easily missed as it was sharing a garage space with rows of potted plants.

Once inside the mamasan paraded around 10 chicas for me. Mamasan was a curvy young MILF who was desirable herself.

I picked the chica with the biggest boobs and seductive smile for 1 hour. Charges were 100 k for an hour.

She did a B2 B massage which was passable. Offered BBBJ for 25 k extra. I declined because by now I was aware of the current rate for chicas in Centro so found this to be steep in Colombia standard.

We proceeded with the events of CBJ, 69 and lot of DFK. When it was time she got on top and ride the rodeo for good 15 minutes. Yee Hawwww.

Once she got tired took her in Doggy and was done in a few minutes. Then we cuddled for sometime and had a shower together.

Later she allowed me to take some of her pics and exchanged Whatsapp.

She was ready to pay me a visit in my hotel for 100 k for 2 relationship at night. I did not connect back as was overwhelmed by the pool of chicas everywhere.

Here are the pics I took of the girl on my first day visit to Aisha Spa Masculino in Laureles. Her name was Carolina or something sililar.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2386975]One of the most popular answers I get is. "Dale" - I looked it up and still do not know what the fuck it actually means but its a good answer.[/QUOTE]LOL. Bring it on!

So I have been researching the forum and read as much as I can before go to Colombia. I have about 2 and half weeks vacation so I am thinking hitting all 3 popular cities, Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena. I was wondering if our veteran members can give me a few pointers as to where I should go first, med or bog, and if Cartegena is worth a visit or just med and bog for now. Also, is it worth it to prebook Airbnb or just get hotel when I land? I will be traveling in early Jan.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386999]LOL. Bring it on![/QUOTE]Dale is a Puerto Rican word, its equal to Hagale pues (Bring it on, lets do it already!- or lets get it on!) Took me forever to figure out that (Hagale pues and Dale) were the same, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386999]LOL. Bring it on![/QUOTE]"Dale" or for pronunciation purposes "the LE" literally means "give it. " It's commonly used in place of "okay."

"Listo" means "I'm ready" and is also used to say "okay."

"Mor", which may confuse some guys is the Medellin chica version of "amor. " The prepagos use "mor" like it's Frank's Red Hot sauce. They put that shit in everything.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386728]Tons are interested in BBFS but realistically I can't see a better way to get what you want and not have to roll as risky of a dice.[/QUOTE]There is a number of very common nasty diseases, which are transmitted via BBFS way more easily than HIV. The list includes, among the others, syphilis (spreading again worldwide, not only in the 3rd World), hepatitis B (I am vaccinated, but there are also C, D, E, F, ... for which there is no vaccine neither an effective therapy), herpes, and of course the classic gonorrhea, various fungal infections, etc.
The dishes on the menu are many! To each his own.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2386903]I appreciate you having posted all these chicas links. I haven't really gone down the Facebook route, but I had a good look at a lot of their pages. Firstly, many of them aren't showing friends, and many of those that do have a typical list of friends (ie it's their genuine account), ie family, male and female friends etc. So if you start messaging to random decent looking women you may well be barking up the wrong tree! The few profiles who are obviously touting for business and who show their friends, mainly have male friends[/QUOTE]I had similar concerns when I first started reading the Medellin thread. In the you. S, Facebook is considered as an extension of yourself. My best friends would announce their engagement on Facebook, many people are friends with their parents and siblings. It's hard to imagine that it is a primary channel for teenage girls to reach out to strangers to exchange sex for money. Furthermore, they are not only offering normal sex, I had some of the most hardcore threesomes with two 18 and 19 that I met through Facebook. After reading so many posts from well respected members on this forum, I'm convinced FB is a real channel. I did my homework before hand, I've established a solid facebook list before I landed in Medellin. I always message girls with something generic, such as "Hello, I'm going to be in Medellin this weekend, do you want to hangout? Some of them will reply with a question mark, which indicates they are not working girls; about 1 out of 10 will reply with question mark, the other 9 are happy to meet you and let you fuck their brain out for less than 80 dollars, which is just unthinkable in every way. But this is absolutely real. Within 48 hours of landing in Medellin I banged 6 Facebook girls, all of them are excellent GFE. There are simply too many girls to choose from, I have about 10 Facebook girls on weekly rotation, and I sample one or two new ones every week or so, so far, I've had zero bad experience in terms of service. I only fuck girls between 18-21, so my selection is limited, even with this limitation I have over 40 girls on FB that I know I can message at any day and will more than likely get an appointment in the same day.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2386906]Dude, BBFS and in the back door? With or without PreP that's on the cliffs edge. To each his own, but that is going right down danger alley and hopefully you are in the clear.[/QUOTE]Bro, want to reread what I wrote? I was wondering if Prep is available for next trip.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2386975] Some chicas I was iffy about then I would message them with a short message. 'Voy a Medellin , haces citas con gringos?' One of the most popular answers I get is. "Dale" - I looked it up and still do not know what the fuck it actually means but its a good answer. Sometimes they say 'listo'. Sometimes they say 'Amor un placer'.[/QUOTE]I am not the Spanish expert here, but "Dale" is from the verb Dar which is to give. So what "Dale" means is basically, "bring it on or give it to me" if that makes sense. Perhaps somebody else on this board can better explain this than me.

Another example of this is, on occasion I have had Chicas say to me, "Dale Dale Dale "when I am banging them when they are trying to reach orgasm. This is a good thing to hear!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386943]Fucking textbook explanation. There needs to be a facbook thread with your post and that picture pinned to the top. Guys act like these chicks are supposed to be just sitting around bored waiting for them instead of trying to run a business. That is why I say hit them up when you are ready for action, not weeks before on some bullshit.[/QUOTE]The Medellin thread is almost becoming the FB thread with so many FB posts. Nothing wrong with the posts, but Medellin has gotten so popular over the years with thousands of posts that it's about time they broke it up a little bit, like how threads are broken up as an example for Tijuana, Mexico or say Bangkok, Thailand. They did recently add a stupid shit thread to Medellin so what would be the big deal in doing this?

I see a benefit to all members by doing this, but most posters don't appear to think it's necessary. Anyone else agree?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2384314]

ElMechanico, thumbs up to you![/QUOTE]Thank you. You get it. Apparently there are still some who don't realize there are 50 girls waiting to take her place, pay more than the agreed upon price, only to encourage this behavior the next time. It was not long before her replacement showed up and accepted the agreed upon amount.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2384335]

So I agree with El Mechanico. He did nothing wrong and she F-the up. And it creates a bad vibe and often leads to a bad session. I think he did the right thing by sending her on her way.[/QUOTE]It still amazes me how some members called me out then boasted about going to get a new gallon of milk. What's the difference between asking one girl to leave and then getting another one to come over and 'getting a new gallon of milk'? Oh, that's right, when they do it it's ok!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2384309] the chick causing all kinds of problems and him coming with a different report of how she stole from him, or wrecked his place, or the police had to be called? Then everybody on here would be telling him he should have seen the signs. Nothing wrong with cutting your losses.

[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr. E! Exactly what I was trying to avoid. And I had several perfect sessions after that in the next few days. And you are so correct. If she had stayed and the session had gone south, everyone on here would be lambasting me for not kicking her out. No shortage of Arm chair QBs on this thread, second guessing everything on here. Hind sight is always 20/20!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2387071]There is a number of very common nasty diseases, which are transmitted via BBFS way more easily than HIV. The list includes, among the others, syphilis (spreading again worldwide, not only in the 3rd World), hepatitis B (I am vaccinated, but there are also C, D, E, F, ... for which there is no vaccine neither an effective therapy), herpes, and of course the classic gonorrhea, various fungal infections, etc.
The dishes on the menu are many! To each his own.[/QUOTE]The worst is Antibiotic Resistant Gonorrhea, imagine not being able to get rid of that itching and burning upon urination! But it gets even worst, syphilis and chlamydia have also begun to show resistance to antibiotics in some parts of the world. Don't be a fool, protect your tool.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2387159]It still amazes me how some members called me out then boasted about going to get a new gallon of milk. What's the difference between asking one girl to leave and then getting another one to come over and 'getting a new gallon of milk'? Oh, that's right, when they do it it's ok!!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]No offense meant playboy I only said that because you got on here bad mouthing a broad about a small amount of money to most people. To me that meant you felt some kinda way. Hence don't cry over spilled milk go buy a new gallon which you did so why waste the time telling us how evil she was bcuz she wanted $8 more dollars than what why'all agreed upon. I just really want to see why'all responses because lot of why'all be on that sucka shit. Ie throwing salt on her name over chump change. But don't be mad opinions are like assholes we all got them and they all stink.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2387209]No offense meant playboy I only said that because you got on here bad mouthing a broad about a small amount of money to most people. To me that meant you felt some kinda way. Hence don't cry over spilled milk go buy a new gallon which you did so why waste the time telling us how evil she was bcuz she wanted $8 more dollars than what why'all agreed upon. I just really want to see why'all responses because lot of why'all be on that sucka shit. Ie throwing salt on her name over chump change. But don't be mad opinions are like assholes we all got them and they all stink.[/QUOTE]I understand that you don't care, but for us others its good to know what bitches won't stand by the negotiated deal and have a bitchy attitude. I'm greatful that he posted what happened, that's the purpose of this forum if you didn't already realize that. I wish more posters followed his lead instead of bitching over what some other dude wrote. Because no one cares and its pretty useless.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387126]The Medellin thread is almost becoming the FB thread with so many FB posts. Nothing wrong with the posts, but Medellin has gotten so popular over the years with thousands of posts that it's about time they broke it up a little bit, like how threads are broken up as an example for Tijuana, Mexico or say Bangkok, Thailand. They did recently add a stupid shit thread to Medellin so what would be the big deal in doing this?

I see a benefit to all members by doing this, but most posters don't appear to think it's necessary. Anyone else agree?[/QUOTE]I would like to see a different thread for all these FB posts. That said I would like to talk about this whole social media business.

I really feel all this social media business with the Chica's is killing the old school way of hunting for prey. They just sit back, and ask high prices, and God forbid if you don't front them taxi money, and a big tip LOL. Sure you see them arrive in a taxi, but I would bet 90% use the Metro when they leave. About tipping. Sure with a Centro or casa girl, but these high end workers act like they are not getting enough as is. Guys take the easy way out, and order girls like it is a pizza delivery. All this GFE from FB girls is all well, and good. Guess what boy's GFE was not invented by the internet.

O Yeah I know it is the twenty first century, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387122]I am not the Spanish expert here, but "Dale" is from the verb Dar which is to give. So what "Dale" means is basically, "bring it on or give it to me[/QUOTE]Its exact translation is "Go ahead!". In Italian there's exactly the same equivalent "dai!" (which literally is "give!", from the verb "dare") but the meaning is again "go ahead!".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387122]I am not the Spanish expert here, but "Dale" is from the verb Dar which is to give. So what "Dale" means is basically, "bring it on or give it to me" if that makes sense. Perhaps somebody else on this board can better explain this than me.

Another example of this is, on occasion I have had Chicas say to me, "Dale Dale Dale "when I am banging them when they are trying to reach orgasm. This is a good thing to hear![/QUOTE]Well, actually "da" is the 3rd person singular of dar = to give. "le" is the 3rd person, indirect object pronoun. (n.b. , that sometimes the direct object is not stated). Consequently, the exact meaning would be "give (it) to him (her)". "Dale el dinero" doesn't mean "go ahead the money". You might hear the phrase at a racetrack, "Dale, dale! as instructions to the jockey, or colloquially simply "Go, go ahead!" to the horse . So, the girl in question is actually saying "Give it to her, Give it to her! Instead of the more grammatically correct "da me lo!" (maybe she views herself in the 3rd person when she's getting banged by a gringo?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2387247]Its exact translation is "Go ahead!".[/QUOTE]'Go ahead' is the figurative translation, literal translation is 'give it. ' Dar is to give, LE make it's third person.

You can you use it too, if girls are shy getting down to business, tell them 'tu dale'.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2387259]Well, actually "da" is the 3rd person singular of dar = to give. "le" is the 3rd person, indirect object pronoun. (n.b. , that sometimes the direct object is not stated). Consequently, the exact meaning would be "give (it) to him (her)". "Dale el dinero" doesn't mean "go ahead the money". You might hear the phrase at a racetrack, "Dale, dale! as instructions to the jockey, or colloquially simply "Go, go ahead!" to the horse . So, the girl in question is actually saying "Give it to her, Give it to her! Instead of the more grammatically correct "da me lo!" (maybe she views herself in the 3rd person when she's getting banged by a gringo?[/QUOTE]To be honest, from experience, Colombians understand Dale when you say it in the right moment but they really just use Vamos or Ahora. Its basically the same thing when talking to a puta. It is also wayyy less complicated than ya'll spending a thread discussing Dale.

All that needs to be done is:

Monger: Cuanto?

Hoe: (Number. Usually 50 k or less for SW's).

Monger: 40 Mil Pesos, esta bien? (always negotiate, but be reasonable).

Hoe: Bien. Esta Bien.

Monger: Vamos! Or Dale! Or ahora! (or you can even say "okay", they understand that trust me).

That's it. She will lead your ass to her favorite quickie spot and guess what fellows? They get a kick-back after the date for taking you to that spot. There is an agreement in place. The basic idea is that they know you are there for pussy and she is trying her best to facilitate your money into her purse. Dale, Vamos, Ahora allll work in the same capacity. Shit. I would say all three in a roll. No confusion there.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2387259]Well, actually "da" is the 3rd person singular of dar = to give. "le" is the 3rd person, indirect object pronoun. (n.b. , that sometimes the direct object is not stated). Consequently, the exact meaning would be "give (it) to him (her)". "Dale el dinero" doesn't mean "go ahead the money". You might hear the phrase at a racetrack, "Dale, dale! as instructions to the jockey, or colloquially simply "Go, go ahead!" to the horse . So, the girl in question is actually saying "Give it to her, Give it to her! Instead of the more grammatically correct "da me lo!" (maybe she views herself in the 3rd person when she's getting banged by a gringo?[/QUOTE]I'm hardly the expert on Spanish grammar. But, I would point out that the is the 3rd person of dar which also includes you-formal and it is also the conjugation used for commands.

So, Dale. Means (to me) "Go for it" kind of as an imperative or command. I'm open to correction (of course).

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2387259]Well, actually "da" is the 3rd person singular of dar = to give. "le" is the 3rd person, indirect object pronoun. (n.b. , that sometimes the direct object is not stated....?[/QUOTE]That is NOT a 3rd person singular, it's the IMPERATIVE of "dar". The common meaning of "dale" is GO AHEAD, or OK!, exactly as "dai!" in Italian. It is as common as HOLA.
"Da me lo" is the IMPERATIVE, and no, who says that does not see herself as a 3rd person.

[QUOTE=Grrrr;2386937]If you want to know why the girls are short in their answers if they answer at all, the answer can be determined from this pic. Look how many guys have liked this photo that was posted only 11 minutes before. Over 200 ! How many guys do you think would be sending messages to them daily. Probably dozens. Mostly time wasting men that claim to be coming to town soon.[/QUOTE]Buddy, thanks for the advice but I wouldn't do her for free (the one in your pic), or with yours, in fact she would have to pay me A LOT!! I know we all have different tastes, and usually I refrain from commenting, but what is this obsession by so many of you mongers for chicas who don't even have the bodies of women, more like teenage boys, no tits, no ass, how can this turn you on? And that type of body isn't typical of a Medellin chica either. Having seen thousands in my month in Medellin, if I have to generalise they are on the short side, with smallish tits, ass on the large side, chubby and pretty ! They are not stick insects like this one !! Oh well, more curvies for me then I guess!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386942]What the duck? How could you not be convinced about the Facebook scene when tons of guys are doing it everyday and this is the only way that some guys get their girls? It has been explained here at nauseum how it works.

What have you been writing to them saying? What are you expecting them to say back? Don't make too much science and theory out of it when it is really very simple. Click on the chick and send her a massage saying Estas disponible para hacer una cita? Are you available for a date? That is the same way I do it on the webpages. Don't make brain surgery out of picking up a hooker.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I haven't looked into the Facebook scene heavily, so I have only written to a few. And if a chica has thousands of messages in her inbox (like you guys are saying) and its hard to get her attention, isn't it easier to just contact an internet prepago who tend to reply straight away and are eager for your business? On top of that I would show more caution what I first ask some chica on Facebook, if I'm not sure if she's available and just some 'ordinary' woman who happens to be friends with a pay for play chica. And no need to translate your little Spanish phrase for me thanks, my Spanish is fine!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387126]The Medellin thread is almost becoming the FB thread with so many FB posts. Nothing wrong with the posts, but Medellin has gotten so popular over the years with thousands of posts that it's about time they broke it up a little bit, like how threads are broken up as an example for Tijuana, Mexico or say Bangkok, Thailand. They did recently add a stupid shit thread to Medellin so what would be the big deal in doing this?

I see a benefit to all members by doing this, but most posters don't appear to think it's necessary. Anyone else agree?[/QUOTE]Have to say I reluctantly agree. I appreciate all the advice I have got on this thread, but there is so much chat about so many unrelated topics (Facebook, diseases, banks to use, credit cards etc) that you can read back 20 pages and not get anywhere, if they don't happen to cover what you're looking for. A Facebook thread would be a good idea to start with.

So I have been a long forum watcher and decided to sub so I can contact members. I am planning to travel to Medellin, Cartagena, and Bogota in January. I have about 2 and half weeks of vacation. I have a few questions regarding staying and traveling around the city. I am not sure the best place to post this because I plan to travel to all 3 popular cities. This trip is more of seeing which one I prefer the most and then make it a destination for future visits.

1. Is it better to stay at Airbnb or get a hotel once I land? Which option is cheaper? And do you have suggestion as to hotels with guest friendly within walking distance in Med, Cart, and Bog?

2. Regarding to facebook chicas, when should I start building the list and starting to message them? Going to try Tinder too and see.

Going to try a bit of everything, SW, facebook, casas, parque, club, infamous clock tower, etc this time. If there are people in the area willing to show me around when I land, I would really appreciate it. I will definitely reaching out to a few forum members for more info.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387303]Buddy, thanks for the advice but I wouldn't do her for free (the one in your pic), or with yours, in fact she would have to pay me A LOT!! I know we all have different tastes, and usually I refrain from commenting, but what is this obsession by so many of you mongers for chicas who don't even have the bodies of women, more like teenage boys, no tits, no ass, how can this turn you on? And that type of body isn't typical of a Medellin chica either. Having seen thousands in my month in Medellin, if I have to generalise they are on the short side, with smallish tits, ass on the large side, chubby and pretty ! They are not stick insects like this one !! Oh well, more curvies for me then I guess![/QUOTE]Are you being serious right now? Surely you did not miss the only point of his post, which was a response to a question that you had about chicks not responding, not responding in a timely manner, and giving short responses.

Nothing about his post was advising you that you should want to do this particular girl that he used as an example. It is like seeing an advertisement for floor wax and saying but my walls are not tan like the ones in that house. But then again this is the same guy that was asking how to take a taxi at an airport.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387306]Like I said, I haven't looked into the Facebook scene heavily, so I have only written to a few. And if a chica has thousands of messages in her inbox (like you guys are saying) and its hard to get her attention, isn't it easier to just contact an internet prepago who tend to reply straight away and are eager for your business? On top of that I would show more caution what I first ask some chica on Facebook, if I'm not sure if she's available and just some 'ordinary' woman who happens to be friends with a pay for play chica. And no need to translate your little Spanish phrase for me thanks, my Spanish is fine![/QUOTE]I'm sure you doing alright how you doing but if you are curious keep at it they will respond, one thing I did is look for recent post if all the photos got 2016 obviously they not very active. I been searching setting up for a trip in November and I got maybe like 10-20 friends in Medellin super easy. Slid in the DM got many responses few even gave the WhatsApp and I'm not on the soil yet. If you Spanish is pasable you should be good to go. P.S. Even if they ordinary they might be ready to earn some "extra " . I was talking to one on messenger today says she is a nurse I asked because she has photos in scrubs with what looks like coworkers.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387306]On top of that I would show more caution what I first ask some chica on Facebook, if I'm not sure if she's available and just some 'ordinary' woman who happens to be friends with a pay for play chica.[/QUOTE]Show more caution? You are asking about a date. You are not saying come over here and let me fuck yohr brains out for money.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387306]And no need to translate your little Spanish phrase for me thanks, my Spanish is fine![/QUOTE]Uhhh. You are not the only reader of this thread and most people that read this thread probably can not say hola or know what it means. So it was done for the advantage of those who may not have as good of a grasp on the language as some others may have, and not for you personally.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2387300]That is NOT a 3rd person singular, it's the IMPERATIVE of "dar". The common meaning of "dale" is GO AHEAD, or OK!, exactly as "dai!" in Italian. It is as common as HOLA.
"Da me lo" is the IMPERATIVE, and no, who says that does not see herself as a 3rd person.[/QUOTE]Okay, da is 2nd person singular (affirmative) imperative, dé is 3rd person imperative. So yeah for sure, "da me lo, Papi!" is 'give it to me, Daddy!' But "dale!" means give it to him or her. I stand by my (Freudian) interpretation of the subconscious of the girl who yells "dale!" when she's getting pounded (esp. doggystyle). It's not "go ahead". That's the point.

I was in Medellin for 2 weeks in September, then went to the coast for nearly 2 weeks, then again 2 weeks in Medellin. Anyway, on the first part of my trip, I wan't too impressed by the downtown streetwalkers scene. I wasn't interested in any chica in Plaza Botero or the surroundings, and the chicas on the hooker bar street nearby (Carrera 53 between Calle 51 and 52) really didn't interest me.

But on my return to Medellin, especially in the last few days of my trip my opinion of the area changed. Firstly, you have to spend some more time there, don't just judge it on one pass. On the last couple of days I made several passes on Carrera 53 in the late afternoon and saw at least a few chicas who were good looking and my type (curvy !). Seems to get a lot busier with more chicas after 4 PM. Likewise on the next street, Carrera 52 between Calle 51 and 52, I saw a couple of young busty and good looking young Venezuealans on my last day, a brunette and a blonde. After playing 'eeny meny miny moe' for a while I decided on the brunette, and took her to a motel on the same street. She cost 40 k, the motel was 12 K. She had a stunning natural rack, her service was OK but nothing special.

I suppose my change in attitude to the area was that I first visited there after only having been in Medellin for a few days in September, whereas my second trip back was after having been in Colombia for 6 weeks, so I was a lot more relaxed and confident in my surroundings. I still didn't see any decent chicas in Plaza Botero though. As it was my last day and I was off to the airport just a few hours later, I suppose I was being a bit reckless as there were all kinds of dodgy people about and cops all over the place. But I had fun and stayed safe ! When I come back, I won't hesitate to take a chica from that area to a motel if I feel like it.

I don't know if there are other streets around there with chica bars like Carrera 53, if there are please enlighten me and I'll check them out when I return! Likewise other parks which I may have missed.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2387300]That is NOT a 3rd person singular, it's the IMPERATIVE of "dar". The common meaning of "dale" is GO AHEAD, or OK!, exactly as "dai!" in Italian. It is as common as HOLA.
"Da me lo" is the IMPERATIVE, and no, who says that does not see herself as a 3rd person.[/QUOTE]I knew there were some Spanish experts out there.

Based on my experience, when a Chica says, Dale Dale Dale, they want to be pounded hard and fast!

[QUOTE=TDC985;2387001]So I have been researching the forum and read as much as I can before go to Colombia. I have about 2 and half weeks vacation so I am thinking hitting all 3 popular cities, Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena. I was wondering if our veteran members can give me a few pointers as to where I should go first, med or bog, and if Cartegena is worth a visit or just med and bog for now. Also, is it worth it to prebook Airbnb or just get hotel when I land? I will be traveling in early Jan.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is definitely worth it. Very cool place to visit. Go to all three, but go to Medellin before Bogota. The moderately high elevation of Medellin will get you ready for the higher elevation of Bogota. If you hit Bogota first, it could take you a couple days to adjust to the altitude.

I prefer to have a place reserved for when I arrive, at least for the first night.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2387320]Okay, da is 2nd person singular (affirmative) imperative, d is 3rd person imperative. So yeah for sure, "da me lo, Papi!" is 'give it to me, Daddy!' But "dale!" means give it to him or her. I stand by my (Freudian) interpretation of the subconscious of the girl who yells "dale!" when she's getting pounded (esp. doggystyle). It's not "go ahead". That's the point.[/QUOTE]It's a expression like right on, it has many uses it's one of those idiomatic things that doesn't really translate in English.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2387312]Are you being serious right now? Surely you did not miss the only point of his post, which was a response to a question that you had about chicks not responding, not responding in a timely manner, and giving short responses.

Nothing about his post was advising you that you should want to do this particular girl that he used as an example. It is like seeing an advertisement for floor wax and saying but my walls are not tan like the ones in that house. But then again this is the same guy that was asking how to take a taxi at an airport.[/QUOTE]Dude, who made you the moderator of this thread? You have too much time on your hands and your posts are just boring, how many times do I have to tell you this? And I'm not the only one! Nobody likes a know-it-all!

When I was in Colombia, I wasn't on this website CONSTANTLY writing endless replies to everything the way you do, I was too busy having fun! If you're in Colombia or some other mongering country, can't you find anything better to do, like get laid maybe? Or are you so obsessed with this forum that you just HAVE to write replies between shagging sessions?? Because that's the impression you give!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387321]I was in Medellin for 2 weeks in September, then went to the coast for nearly 2 weeks, then again 2 weeks in Medellin. Anyway, on the first part of my trip, I wan't too impressed by the downtown streetwalkers scene. I wasn't interested in any chica in Plaza Botero or the surroundings, and the chicas on the hooker bar street nearby (Carrera 53 between Calle 51 and 52) really didn't interest me.

But on my return to Medellin, especially in the last few days of my trip my opinion of the area changed. Firstly, you have to spend some more time there, don't just judge it on one pass. On the last couple of days I made several passes on Carrera 53 in the late afternoon and saw at least a few chicas who were good looking and my type (curvy !). Seems to get a lot busier with more chicas after 4 PM. Likewise on the next street, Carrera 52 between Calle 51 and 52, I saw a couple of young busty and good looking young Venezuealans on my last day, a brunette and a blonde. After playing 'eeny meny miny moe' for a while I decided on the brunette, and took her to a motel on the same street. She cost 40 k, the motel was 12 K. She had a stunning natural rack, her service was OK but nothing special.

I suppose my change in attitude to the area was that I first visited there after only having been in Medellin for a few days in September, whereas my second trip back was after having been in Colombia for 6 weeks, so I was a lot more relaxed and confident in my surroundings..[/QUOTE]The key take away from your post is, you have to spend time in the Plaza Botero area and feel comfortable being there as well. You sound like a street rat in the making!

BMo814, SJobs and Mojo Bandit thanks a lot for all your constructive advice about the Facebook scene! I'll look into it some more when I have the time.

By the way Mojo Bandit, I tried to PM you but your mailbox is full dude

[QUOTE=DogLife;2386973]I concur with you Surfer500. Was lining up with FB chicas prior to SWs and was being quoted in range of 150 k to 200 k for an hour plus uber charges.

But once tasted SWs there is no looking back.

Also learnt in the process, these same SW chicas which make 30 K in Centro may have FB pages where they hookup with gringos in Poblado for 150 200 K.

Its like buying the same Dollar Tree stuff in a swanky mall with bloated price tag!

Don't want to debate here on this but both have its pros and cons!![/QUOTE]30-40 k + 10 k for the room, gets you about 20 minutes in a basic room, in El Centro.

150-200 k gets you 1-6 hours in the room of your choice.

If you're after quantity, you can hit 3 or 4 girls in El Centro for 150-200 k.

If you're after something other than quantity, you can hit the same girl 1-3 times, chill, talk, drink, dance, smoke, eat, or whatever, for 150-200 k.

For me it's no comparison. I rarely want just a quick fuck, or blow and go. For other guys, any more than 20 minutes with a girl is too long.

It's all about finding what works for you.

First.

"Dale" is indeed a colloquialism. It had me baffled, because one cam model I worked with kept telling me "dale" whenever I gave her direction. I finally had to ask my roommate, whose English was quite good. Used by itself, it's the same as the English "okay. " "Listo" is sometimes used the same way. This is correct for Medellin. It may not be correct in other countries, or in smaller Colombian cities.

BB anal? With 30 k streetwalkers? I guess you have to find ways to use up that health insurance deductible. Fortunately I've reached the age where I no longer need to go and try to get some new disease.

Facebook thread? There really doesn't need to be any more Facebook posts. There are dozens of posts explaining the whole process. If you're interested, search the thread. Once the girl is in your bed, it doesn't matter where she came from. If someone wants to know how to reach her they can send a PM.

Whatever works best for you, stick to it. If you get bored, or want to try something different, then switch it up. There's no one type of mongering that is perfect for everyone.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387336]BMo814, SJobs and Mojo Bandit thanks a lot for all your constructive advice about the Facebook scene! I'll look into it some more when I have the time.

By the way Mojo Bandit, I tried to PM you but your mailbox is full dude[/QUOTE]I'm going to go through and delete some messages if you need to PM me, try again.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2387351]First.

"Dale" is indeed a colloquialism. It had me baffled, because one cam model I worked with kept telling me "dale" whenever I gave her direction. I finally had to ask my roommate, whose English was quite good. Used by itself, it's the same as the English "okay. " "Listo" is sometimes used the same way. This is correct for Medellin. It may not be correct in other countries, or in smaller Colombian cities.

BB anal? With 30 k streetwalkers? I guess you have to find ways to use up that health insurance deductible. Fortunately I've reached the age where I no longer need to go and try to get some new disease.

Facebook thread? There really doesn't need to be any more Facebook posts. There are dozens of posts explaining the whole process. If you're interested, search the thread. Once the girl is in your bed, it doesn't matter where she came from. If someone wants to know how to reach her they can send a PM.

Whatever works best for you, stick to it. If you get bored, or want to try something different, then switch it up. There's no one type of mongering that is perfect for everyone.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I wish this was set up a little bit like Facebook in that you could like somebody's post.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387330]Dude, who made you the moderator of this thread? You have too much time on your hands and your posts are just boring, how many times do I have to tell you this? And I'm not the only one! Nobody likes a know-it-all![/QUOTE]I am not a moderator here sir. The purpose of this board is to share information; it says nothing about sharing information that will make Coupe66 excited. Why do you have your panties in a bunch because I am doing just that? I could see if you had said that I was sharing INCORRECT and INUTILE information, but that is not your beef at all. You actually have a problem because I am sharing VALID information? How is that even a thing!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387303]Buddy, thanks for the advice but I wouldn't do her for free (the one in your pic), or with yours, in fact she would have to pay me A LOT!! I know we all have different tastes, and usually I refrain from commenting, but what is this obsession by so many of you mongers for chicas who don't even have the bodies of women, more like teenage boys, no tits, no ass, how can this turn you on? And that type of body isn't typical of a Medellin chica either. Having seen thousands in my month in Medellin, if I have to generalise they are on the short side, with smallish tits, ass on the large side, chubby and pretty ! They are not stick insects like this one !! Oh well, more curvies for me then I guess![/QUOTE]Coupe66, clearly you're not so bright. Re-read my post. Better yet have an adult explain it to you. It was never about you screwing the chick in the pic, or me screwing her for that matter. It was simply to illustrate for the most feeble minded folks non this thread that which is most obvious to the majority of readers. Makes me laugh at how stupid some folks are.

This thread is the best on ISG because none else is so harmonious, year after year.
Love it. (Imperative).

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2387351]First.

"Dale" is indeed a colloquialism. It had me baffled, because one cam model I worked with kept telling me "dale" whenever I gave her direction. I finally had to ask my roommate, whose English was quite good. Used by itself, it's the same as the English "okay. " "Listo" is sometimes used the same way. This is correct for Medellin. It may not be correct in other countries, or in smaller Colombian cities.

BB anal? With 30 k streetwalkers? I guess you have to find ways to use up that health insurance deductible. Fortunately I've reached the age where I no longer need to go and try to get some new disease.

Facebook thread? There really doesn't need to be any more Facebook posts. There are dozens of posts explaining the whole process. If you're interested, search the thread. Once the girl is in your bed, it doesn't matter where she came from. If someone wants to know how to reach her they can send a PM.

Whatever works best for you, stick to it. If you get bored, or want to try something different, then switch it up. There's no one type of m
ongering that is perfect for everyone.[/QUOTE]Depending on what it is in response to, Dale can mean OK. But it can also mean go ahead, do it, get after it. For instance if you say you need to go to the store your friend may say Dale or go ahead. You can then respond with Vale which means OK also. Like many words in Spanish it depends on the context. Dale!

[QUOTE=Grrrr;2387527]It was simply to illustrate for the most feeble minded folks non this thread that which is most obvious to the majority of readers. Makes me laugh at how stupid some folks are.[/QUOTE]While I agree with your post to a large extend. I have seen posts that fit your description that have more than 500 likes from very hot chicas that have more than 10 K followers. I am still not sure they are available simply because they don't accept friend request. I have not seen any one of their facebook links posted here to indicate they are available and they have many gringo followers.

I will be happy to spend a lot of money to have sex with one of them, then I think maybe they have a stable of gringos that are paying them a lot so they don't need new ones.

I guess I upset you with my post. It was a bit hard on you really. But I'm endlessly seeing some of you guys post photos of all these stick insects from Facebook you have been with and going on about them being perfect 10's which just gets on my nerves! In fact the whole idea of giving chicas scores out of 10 is fairly pointless and arbitrary as we all have different tastes. So sorry for being a bit mean, and I take your point that you were illustrating how much attention the chica has got.

But at the same time I still say there's a kind of implied pride or show off element to some of these 'I love Facebook chicas' posts where we're all supposed to be impressed. But I'm not impressed, either by the Facebook scene much or the chicas I have seen there ! In fact, I would actually be embarrassed to have posted photos of some of the chicas I have seen !

[QUOTE=Grrrr;2387527]Coupe66, clearly you're not so bright. Re-read my post. Better yet have an adult explain it to you. It was never about you screwing the chick in the pic, or me screwing her for that matter. It was simply to illustrate for the most feeble minded folks non this thread that which is most obvious to the majority of readers. Makes me laugh at how stupid some folks are.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2387549]This thread is the best on ISG because none else is so harmonious, year after year.
Love it. (Imperative).[/QUOTE]I am also fan of irony, so you should like my next post.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387599] But I'm endlessly seeing some of you guys post photos of all these stick insects from Facebook you have been with and going
I take your point that you were illustrating how much attention the chica has got.

But I'm not impressed, either by the Facebook scene much or the chicas I have seen there ! In fact, I would actually be embarrassed to have posted photos of some of the chicas I have seen !

.[/QUOTE]I'm so embarrassed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2327569]I am not talking about downtown either. In 2 seconds I randomly pulled one up for 110,000 and some for 130,000. Shit, I even see a 75,000! I did notice many for 150,000 though. But of the ones that have prices listed I saw no 200,000s. And again, these rates can always be negotiated when you are ready to do business. So I am just wondering how he came up with declaring those figures he named as standard.[/QUOTE]Oh I like the one bottom left hand side. She looks like Luna from San Jose gulch! I like shot a load in her face jeejeejee.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2330646]I don't know how good your Spanish is, but you really should firm up a price with them before having them come to your place. If you don't agree to the price beforehand, there could be lots of problems, and sometimes there's even problems when you have an agreed upon price beforehand. You might want to consider meeting them at a Coffee shop or other place within a few blocks of your place to work out the details beforehand. You may want to bail on some of these Chicas immediately upon meeting them because they don't look anything like the photos you saw, and if so, it will be much easier in a public place. And if you think these women are going to bang you for free, well I am sorry to inform you that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]Why? Even waste your time with all that bullshit "FakeBook"? Fake is fake and all the troubles that await. If you know even basic Spanish and can navigate street blocks during the day why not cruise all the street chica areas?

Some of my scariest moments have been from chicas I met on-line.

A friend of mine in South Florida married to a Paisa said if you are short time in MDE all the regular girls not even interested. All that is left then for short term visitors is Putas and Fakebook. Do the math!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2387599]

But at the same time I still say there's a kind of implied pride or show off element to some of these 'I love Facebook chicas' posts where we're all supposed to be impressed. But I'm not impressed, either by the Facebook scene much or the chicas I have seen there ! In fact, I would actually be embarrassed to have posted photos of some of the chicas I have seen !

.[/QUOTE]Its a market, these chicas time and sex is for sale, anyone can buy this so there is no "implied" pride as though we won these chicas over with our good looks, game or charm. But it is a little exciting to some of us that chicas that we think are hot are available to fuck for relatively little money. I am not in the least bit offended by posts by guys who go to El Centro and pay 30 k for a quickie, I wish that did it for me, it does not. It would be easier on my wallet, but I get much hornier and enjoy sex more with women that I think are beautiful. I personally want to help guys who have the same taste in women that I do find those women, my posts are written for those guys,. There is some variation in tastes for what is a beautiful woman, but not much. There is much greater variation in tastes in what is great body on a woman, I mostly like woman that corresponds to the 36-26-36 variety. But that waist of 26 and ass of 36 is most important to me. I have no idea if these FB chicas that I posed photos of are better looking overall than chicas you can find on prepago websites. But I promise you this, I just deleted all the emails in my inbox and its about to get full again. But I am not here to hand feed anyone but I am willing to teach anyone to fish.

Grrrr was seriously trying to help you. He was being helpful. He was telling you that everyone gets short answers from these chicas and he was telling you why. And you bit a hand that was trying to feed you. Your reply had nothing to do with what he was saying, he pulled a random example of a FB chica photo to demonstrate. Somehow you misconstrued it into that he was rubbing your face into the fact that he had screwed this chica, which he never even implied, he was simply trying to be helpful. When you realized this you did sort of apologize, but then you followed this with some pent up frustration about guys who like looking for hot FB chicas. One guys 10 is not another guys 10 for sure but it is that guys 10. I like fucking beautiful women, and I do not understand guys who want to fuck average to ugly women. But I also do not care who anyone else is fucking. I'm not here to argue about it. I am here to help guys who want to fuck the beautiful women that are to be found on FB as I have done. But I am not here to hand feed anyone but I am willing to teach anyone to fish. Someone did that for me, and It worked out well for me, so I shall pay it forward. If you are not interested in FB girls than you do not have to mention them, but something tells me you really are.

There is a lot of testosterone that flows through the blood of all us guys who are trying to fuck as many chicas as we can before we die, and guys who have a lot of testosterone tend to be competitive and it spills out all over these posts as we compete for who has the best methods and has found the hottest chicas for the best prices and so on, but I want to hear people brag as long as they are being honest I might learn something. I do not care if someone is a braggart as long as they are being honest, I can still learn something from them.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2387782]Why? Even waste your time with all that bullshit "FakeBook"? Fake is fake and all the troubles that await. If you know even basic Spanish and can navigate street blocks during the day why not cruise all the street chica areas?

Some of my scariest moments have been from chicas I met on-line.

A friend of mine in South Florida married to a Paisa said if you are short time in MDE all the regular girls not even interested. All that is left then for short term visitors is Putas and Fakebook. Do the math![/QUOTE]There are probably fifty to a hundred guys on the ground In Medellin with fresh experience or freshly returned from Medellin like myself with fresh experience asking themselves "Did he just quote hearsay from friend who lives in Florida but because he is married to a chica from Medellin" ?? I just fucked 14 hot chicas off Fake Book but I tell you what; don't worry about it. Leave the Fakebook for us suckers who do not have a friend in Florida who is married to a Paisa because we just don't know any better.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2387782]Why? Even waste your time with all that bullshit "FakeBook"? Fake is fake and all the troubles that await. If you know even basic Spanish and can navigate street blocks during the day why not cruise all the street chica areas?

Some of my scariest moments have been from chicas I met on-line.

A friend of mine in South Florida married to a Paisa said if you are short time in MDE all the regular girls not even interested. All that is left then for short term visitors is Putas and Fakebook. Do the math![/QUOTE]The difference is by default the street girls (50K, I know some said 25K or 30K) won't do things the guys want, the FB girls (200K) will do things the guys want. I am saying this based on my own experience. This is with chica that I already know many weeks, and met everyday. I am even paying higher price on purpose for my own reason. Did I try to negotiate, not very hard but I don't even need to negotiate with most FB chicas. Having said that, I did get what I want often but it takes some negotiation, and they know me in some way already so it was easier for me even without much Spanish skill

There was a very hot street girl that showed up briefly in El Centrol. The day before, she and her friends proposed 4P to me for 30K each. The day before that, her friends proposed 3P to me. And I remember the day before that, her friends were joking around in Spanish thinking we were gringos who don't understand Spanish, that 2 of them and 2 of us (me and PN) should all have sex together. Not knowing PN can understand what they are saying, they were surprised when PN spoke to them in Spanish. They laughed so hard after hearing PN.

I eventually dated this hot chica. Now she wanted 50K but i made her to stick to 30K. She won't do BBBJ at all but even with small to no boobs she was so hot that I don't care. In the room she wanted me to pay first so I aborted the session after already paying 20K for room and drink. She had a diva attitude that she walked out before I did.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2387581]While I agree with your post to a large extend. I have seen posts that fit your description that have more than 500 likes from very hot chicas that have more than 10 K followers. I am still not sure they are available simply because they don't accept friend request. I have not seen any one of their facebook links posted here to indicate they are available and they have many gringo followers.

I will be happy to spend a lot of money to have sex with one of them, then I think maybe they have a stable of gringos that are paying them a lot so they don't need new ones.[/QUOTE]When I first began to look at these profiles on FB I was actually a little intimidated by the amount of friends and followers they have, but when I started interacting with them I realized that many of these friends and followers are miles away and having friends and followers on FB does not put food on the table or money in their pocket. All that matters is who is in Medellin and setting up citas with them. There are a few please who send these some of these chicas money but my guess is that they are few. Most guys are too smart for that. I have come across the occasional chica profile where I could see all the "usual suspects" meaning monger profiles as friends but now she is married and living in USA somewhere which is evidence to me that yes some mongers to indeed actually marry a prepago and bring her home. I hope they live happily ever after. Its possible. But my point is that the online personal with all the friends and followers can make these chicas lives seem to be more than it is. I'm thinking that if you walk out in the street in say Bello and you throw a rock in so many directions, you are going to hit a sexy chica, the competition is there.

Since I have seen your posts and I know that you have contributed on the ground there I am going to send you a special PM.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2387768]I'm so embarrassed.[/QUOTE]One of those girls is a real sweetheart. Interesting and funny, I've enjoyed talking with her a few times.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2387782]Why? Even waste your time with all that bullshit "FakeBook"? Fake is fake and all the troubles that await. If you know even basic Spanish and can navigate street blocks during the day why not cruise all the street chica areas?

Some of my scariest moments have been from chicas I met on-line.

A friend of mine in South Florida married to a Paisa said if you are short time in MDE all the regular girls not even interested. All that is left then for short term visitors is Putas and Fakebook. Do the math![/QUOTE]This one is all over the place.

Let's start with "Fakebook. ".

I've had conversations with well over 100 women on Facebook. That's out of the 300 or so on my friend list. I've had sessions with 30-40 of them. Of those, only 1 used misleading pictures, and I'd already met and had her before. I didn't realize it was the same girl. While there are plenty of fake profiles, they're easy to avoid.

Most of girls I'm connected with are as real as it gets. Several of them I met first, through other means and they sought me out on Facebook. Their Facebook shows how many kids they have, where they like to party, as well as how they like to party. It shows what type of sense of humor the girls have and in many cases, the things that turn them on. In 5 minutes you can decide whether or not she's someone worth considering.

The best part:

You can make the decision, to consider spending time with her, while you're taking a dump in Iowa. In the weeks, or months before your trip, you can build a list of 100 girls who meet your basic criteria. In the last week before boarding the plane you can break the ice and figure out which girls you intend to make a priority.

As for "all the troubles that await", what troubles? Read the forum. There's guys who have picked a girl off the street and discovered she's a tranny in the room. There's guys who had street girls who wouldn't perform, who had odor issues, who had all kinds of rules. I've never experienced any of those problems with Facebook. The only thing is girls who show up late.

Facebook isn't for everyone. If it's not your thing, don't make up bullshit about it. Just go on with whatever works for you.

I'm not a math expert. I'm trying to figure out what math we're supposed to be doing.

If you're visiting anywhere for just a few days, chances are the regular girls aren't interested in you. If you're attractive enough, or wealthy enough, lots of girls will show interest, but rarely are they "regular girls. " If you hang around the typical gringo hangouts, girls will show interest, but those are just proactive streetwalkers.

Regular girls aren't going to see you because they're busy with their regular jobs and regular lives. You're probably not spending much time cruising the various factories looking for girls. Being a short term visitor, unless you're a frequent visitor, looking for regular girls is a waste of everyone's time.

What are you going to do? Spend 2 days walking the barrios (not Poblado, Laureles or El Centro) looking for a girl who will spend the next 3 days deciding if she has any interest in you, then go home and spend 5 months sending WhatsApp messages?

If you're there for a short time and you're there specifically for sex, go for the sure thing. You can find it on the streets, in the bars, strip clubs, casas and massage parlors. You can find it on Colombian Cupid, Tinder, Seeking Arrangements, Photprepagos and Mileroticos. You can find it at the Mansion, or in Parque Lleras.

Or you can find it on Facebook.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2387782]Why? Even waste your time with all that bullshit "FakeBook"? Fake is fake and all the troubles that await. If you know even basic Spanish and can navigate street blocks during the day why not cruise all the street chica areas?

Some of my scariest moments have been from chicas I met on-line.

A friend of mine in South Florida married to a Paisa said if you are short time in MDE all the regular girls not even interested. All that is left then for short term visitors is Putas and Fakebook. Do the math![/QUOTE]Not all of the Fay Boo Chicas are a waste of time, it's apparent from lots of the posts, however, for some, like myself, and obviously you, they are not for us.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2387813]The difference is by default the street girls (50K, I know some said 25K or 30K) won't do things the guys want, the FB girls (200K) will do things the guys want. I am saying this based on my own experience. This is with chica that I already know many weeks, and met everyday. I am even paying higher price on purpose for my own reason. Did I try to negotiate, not very hard but I don't even need to negotiate with most FB chicas. Having said that, I did get what I want often but it takes some negotiation, and they know me in some way already so it was easier for me even without much Spanish skill [/QUOTE]So what exactly won't the street girls do that the FB girls will do by default. And what exactly do the FB girls provide automatically that the street girls don't. Sounds like negotiating isn't something you like to do, as for some guy's it isn't, and you have the language barrier as well. Nothing wrong with any of that, but for some, what you have described doesn't come into the equation.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2387813]I eventually dated this hot chica. Now she wanted 50K but i made her to stick to 30K. She won't do BBBJ at all but even with small to no boobs she was so hot that I don't care. In the room she wanted me to pay first so I aborted the session after already paying 20K for room and drink. She had a diva attitude that she walked out before I did.[/QUOTE]This is kinda confusing, so you dated a hot chica.

Did you actually go out on dates with her for a while?

And than when you wanted to have sex with her after dating her, she wanted 50 k. Is this correct so far?

But you made her stick to 30 K and she wouldn't do BBBJ, and than once in the room, she demanded payment upfront, and she walked out on you when you balked about paying her up front.

Is this an accurate description of what transpired?

Sounds like good material for a Novella.

Sadly my limited time in Medellin is over but I still managed my share of fun despite last minute preparation. Thank you to the regular posters on this thread. Guys like JjB, WT69, Tall Man, MrE and loads of others supplied so much info here it made it easy to find what I wanted. Some of the advice I found wasn't for me such as the SW scene in Botero / Centro, I went down there a few times but wasn't a fan. There are others that would love the place so it's important for that info to be available too.

Off my late preparation I still managed to see a few FB chicas and for that I must thank Mojo Bandit. Your posts, profile links and method made the process simple. All the info to get started is contained in one post.

Tried Fantasia Energy early on and there were some lookers. I'm kicking myself I didn't try the slightly older chica with the massive hooters, Victoria (Ended up taking Vanessa who was ok without being memorable.

The best session by far was with Allison at Aisha massage, one street over from San Peter Suites. Sometimes you just click with someone and that's the way it was with her. She's a dark skinned girl with an Afro style haircut, quite a slim body with beautiful, plump, see cup boobs that hang perfectly from her chest. The sparkle in her eyes had me at the first intro.

In the room Allison was playful and fun. The massage at the start was interrupted by her biting my neck, licking behind my ear or rubbing those perfect boobs on my back. She had my attention. Haha.

Upon the flip it was into a CBJ. (BBBJ second session) That turned into 69 where she ended up grinding herself into my face. The sex was multi positional and she was an enthusiastic participant, which is always the perfect outcome.

I told her I'the return the next morning before my flight out to Bogotá. She seemed surprised that I was actually waiting for her when she arrived for work dressed in street clothes. I won't go into any further detail of the session except to say as soon as the door closed it was on. All pretence of a massage went out the window.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2387763]you should like my next post.[/QUOTE]Actually not at all. How did you find the private photos of my girlfriend?? GOSH! This is the proof she is not faithful.

I will ask her younger sister.

Every single bit of this advice is good. I urge everyone to follow it. I am a Centro rat so any girl I don't already know I always meet in a public space. The street LOL!

But seriously, it is pretty basic to work out cost in advance. If it's a girl you deal with regularly it's OK to be more casual about it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2330646]I don't know how good your Spanish is, but you really should firm up a price with them before having them come to your place. If you don't agree to the price beforehand, there could be lots of problems, and sometimes there's even problems when you have an agreed upon price beforehand. You might want to consider meeting them at a Coffee shop or other place within a few blocks of your place to work out the details beforehand. You may want to bail on some of these Chicas immediately upon meeting them because they don't look anything like the photos you saw, and if so, it will be much easier in a public place. And if you think these women are going to bang you for free, well I am sorry to inform you that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2387768]I'm so embarrassed.[/QUOTE]I've got Melissa on my FB and WhatsApp. She is on my hit list. Her price range on photoprepagos is 130k-150k. How was your experience with her?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387902]This is kinda confusing, so you dated a hot chica.

Did you actually go out on dates with her for a while?

And than when you wanted to have sex with her after dating her, she wanted 50 k. Is this correct so far?

But you made her stick to 30 K and she wouldn't do BBBJ, and than once in the room, she demanded payment upfront, and she walked out on you when you balked about paying her up front.

Is this an accurate description of what transpired?

Sounds like good material for a Novella.[/QUOTE]I saw her (the hot chica) friend first that day. She is a fat short chica that I don't have any desire to have sex with but she is friendly and very funny. I think these girls are basically refugees here. I know she wasn't getting business and I was on my way to have dinner so I asked her if she wanted some food, and she agreed. Later I met the fat one with her hot friend, and her hot fried asked me to buy her dinner. Before we got to the food, she changed her mind and asked to go to the room with me. I just wanted to confirm a few things. One thing was the price that is 30 K she asked for the day before. She wanted 50 K now but I just said you said 30 K before so she agreed to 30 K AND no BBBJ.

In the room, we both got half naked and she was in the bed asking money first. I said I always pay after but she insisted. I simply said no and proceed to put on my shoes, then she got dressed and left the room before me.

BTW, I think you are the foremost expert on El Centro and the street girls here so I welcome your critic.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2387830]When I first began to look at these profiles on FB I was actually a little intimidated by the amount of friends and followers they have, but when I started interacting with them I realized that many of these friends and followers are miles away and having friends and followers on FB does not put food on the table or money in their pocket. All that matters is who is in Medellin and setting up citas with them. There are a few please who send these some of these chicas money but my guess is that they are few. Most guys are too smart for that. I have come across the occasional chica profile where I could see all the "usual suspects" meaning monger profiles as friends but now she is married and living in USA somewhere which is evidence to me that yes some mongers to indeed actually marry a prepago and bring her home. I hope they live happily ever after. Its possible. But my point is that the online personal with all the friends and followers can make these chicas lives seem to be more than it is. I'm thinking that if you walk out in the street in say Bello and you throw a rock in so many directions, you are going to hit a sexy chica, the competition is there.

Since I have seen your posts and I know that you have contributed on the ground there I am going to send you a special PM.[/QUOTE]They know I am in the city but maybe I was too direct and did not try to chat them up. Thanks for the great advice.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387895]So what exactly won't the street girls do that the FB girls will do by default. And what exactly do the FB girls provide automatically that the street girls don't. [/QUOTE]BBBJ and when they do it, many are like poco BBBJ to me. It is understandable because many are new to this and their circumstances. I know I can get them to do better but that is not how I want to do it.


[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387895] Sounds like negotiating isn't something you like to do[/QUOTE]The truth is that I was only finding a reason to give the girl money. Not everyone is worth giving money to but I think this one is and she needs it.

That I have seen time and time again, SWs will allow photos and maybe videos, most FB girls will not. Most FB girls will attempt to upsell, most SWs won't. Even when they do, the upsell is so small you don't notice it. Here's an example, many on the board say FB chics are $150 k -$300 k. SWs will allow nearly anything for a total of $120 mil, after starting at $40-$50 mil. Does this explain a few differences in SWs & FB girls? Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2387786]Its a market, these chicas time and sex is for sale, anyone can buy this so there is no "implied" pride as though we won these chicas over with our good looks, game or charm. But it is a little exciting to some of us that chicas that we think are hot are available to fuck for relatively little money. I am not in the least bit offended by posts by guys who go to El Centro and pay 30 k for a quickie, I wish that did it for me, it does not. It would be easier on my wallet, but I get much hornier and enjoy sex more with women that I think are beautiful. I personally want to help guys who have the same taste in women that I do find those women, my posts are written for those guys,. There is some variation in tastes for what is a beautiful woman, but not much. There is much greater variation in tastes in what is great body on a woman, I mostly like woman that corresponds to the 36-26-36 variety. But that waist of 26 and ass of 36 is most important to me. I have no idea if these FB chicas that I posed photos of are better looking overall than chicas you can find on prepago websites. But I promise you this, I just deleted all the emails in my inbox and its about to get full again. But I am not here to hand feed anyone but I am willing to teach anyone to fish.

Grrrr was seriously trying to help you. He was being helpful. He was telling you that everyone gets short answers from these chicas and he was telling you why. And you bit a hand that was trying to feed you. Your reply had nothing to do with what he was saying, he pulled a random example of a FB chica photo to demonstrate. Somehow you misconstrued it into that he was rubbing your face into the fact that he had screwed this chica, which he never even implied, he was simply trying to be helpful. When you realized this you did sort of apologize, but then you followed this with some pent up frustration about guys who like looking for hot FB chicas. One guys 10 is not another guys 10 for sure but it is that guys 10. I like fucking beautiful women, and I do not understand guys who want to fuck average to ugly women. But I also do not care who anyone else is fucking. I'm not here to argue about it. I am here to help guys who want to fuck the beautiful women that are to be found on FB as I have done. But I am not here to hand feed anyone but I am willing to teach anyone to fish. Someone did that for me, and It worked out well for me, so I shall pay it forward. If you are not interested in FB girls than you do not have to mention them, but something tells me you really are.

There is a lot of testosterone that flows through the blood of all us guys who are trying to fuck as many chicas as we can before we die, and guys who have a lot of testosterone tend to be competitive and it spills out all over these posts as we compete for who has the best methods and has found the hottest chicas for the best prices and so on, but I want to hear people brag as long as they are being honest I might learn something. I do not care if someone is a braggart as long as they are being honest, I can still learn something from them.[/QUOTE]I appreciate a lot of what you have said. But what you don't seem to get is that for many guys, a tall skinny chick with no tits is not beautiful or sexy, not at all! And most of these Facebook chicas whose photos appear on this thread are that type. Sure they may have a pretty face, so only good enough for a blowjob as far as I'm concerned!

When did the image of a skinny catwalk model become the definition of a sexy woman? Have so many guys been brainwashed by the western media's definition of what constitutes sexy? The same way our women have, all trying to get skinny and fit into a smaller size dress! What happened to the Marilyn Monroe look? Who gets more looks walking down the street, the skinny-assed chica, or the one wandering down the street with her tits and ass bouncing ? The second one for sure!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2388044]I appreciate a lot of what you have said. But what you don't seem to get is that for many guys, a tall skinny chick with no tits is not beautiful or sexy, not at all! And most of these Facebook chicas whose photos appear on this thread are that type. Sure they may have a pretty face, so only good enough for a blowjob as far as I'm concerned!

When did the image of a skinny catwalk model become the definition of a sexy woman? Have so many guys been brainwashed by the western media's definition of what constitutes sexy? The same way our women have, all trying to get skinny and fit into a smaller size dress! What happened to the Marilyn Monroe look? Who gets more looks walking down the street, the skinny-assed chica, or the one wandering down the street with her tits and ass bouncing ? The second one for sure! [/QUOTE]May I ask you what's your ethnicity? I just assumed the reason why I wasn't attracted to most of the girls posted on here was because men of European descent just have different taste in women than myself. If you're non White / Asian then I say stop cricizing and understand that everybody is attracted to different things.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2388053]May I ask you what's your ethnicity? I just assumed the reason why I wasn't attracted to most of the girls posted on here was because men of European descent just have different taste in women than myself. If you're non White / Asian then I say stop cricizing and understand that everybody is attracted to different things.[/QUOTE]I have read your post several times and still don't really understand what you're saying. Is it that black guys are allowed to criticize all the photos of skinny-assed white chicks, but white guys and asians aren't? Because black guys prefer curvy women? And I only have to understand that everybody is attracted to different things, if I'm black? Even though these photos are all of the SAME TYPE, skinny tatood chicas with no tits.

Hmmm. I'm still confused. By the way, I'm white north European, if that helps in any way?

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2388044]I appreciate a lot of what you have said. But what you don't seem to get is that for many guys, a tall skinny chick with no tits is not beautiful or sexy, not at all! And most of these Facebook chicas whose photos appear on this thread are that type. Sure they may have a pretty face, so only good enough for a blowjob as far as I'm concerned!

When did the image of a skinny catwalk model become the definition of a sexy woman? Have so many guys been brainwashed by the western media's definition of what constitutes sexy? The same way our women have, all trying to get skinny and fit into a smaller size dress! What happened to the Marilyn Monroe look? Who gets more looks walking down the street, the skinny-assed chica, or the one wandering down the street with her tits and ass bouncing ? The second one for sure![/QUOTE]Point taken. But I would have used Raquel Welch as an example. She was born with the name Jo Raquel Tejada so she was a chica.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2388059]Even though these photos are all of the SAME TYPE, skinny tatood chicas with no tits.[/QUOTE]Chill bro. Everyone is just displaying the fresh catches. Baby steps. It takes these chicks a while to save up to buy tits, unless some Schmoe comes up and buys them for her like my exgirlfriend's exboyfriend did before I met her.

The vast majority of the time I'll take a Flaca with a decent ass on her. Like bikini girl getting ready to go to the roof pool. but every once in awhile I like a big o pair of titties. I found these two bouncing around Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387895]So what exactly won't the street girls do that the FB girls will do by default. And what exactly do the FB girls provide automatically that the street girls don't. Sounds like negotiating isn't something you like to do, as for some guy's it isn't, and you have the language barrier as well. Nothing wrong with any of that, but for some, what you have described doesn't come into the equation.[/QUOTE]Almost by default Facebook girls will spend at least 2 hours with me for the initial agreed upon price. Even if the street girl is willing to stay for 2 hours for 30-50 k, the short time room is going to be knocking on the door every 20 minutes wanting another 10 k. Granted, I'm spending 150-200 k for the 2 hours, but I often get much more than 2 hours.

Depending on the Facebook girl, she'll come and pick me up at the airport in her car, or drive me to Guatape, Santa Fe de Antioquia, Caldas, or just about anywhere else. Got any street girls who'll do that? If I ask, she'll even bring a friend to blow me on the way into town and then join for a 3 some when we arrive.

While nothing is automatic with every girl, I've found that most Facebook girls go straight to BBBJ without discussion or an upsell. Most also initiate DFK without trying to negotiate it. Many will offer MSOG or accept it without charging more.

In fact, other than the price, and whether or not taxis are included, I've never had to negotiate or haggle with a Facebook girl. I offer my price, 9 of 10 immediately agree.

Nobody is insisting everyone stop seeing the street girls and switch to Facebook. If Facebook doesn't appeal to you, forget it exists. Why go to all the trouble to prove that you don't want to mess with Facebook?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2387902]This is kinda confusing, so you dated a hot chica.

Did you actually go out on dates with her for a while?

And than when you wanted to have sex with her after dating her, she wanted 50 k. Is this correct so far?

But you made her stick to 30 K and she wouldn't do BBBJ, and than once in the room, she demanded payment upfront, and she walked out on you when you balked about paying her up front.

Is this an accurate description of what transpired?

Sounds like good material for a Novella.[/QUOTE]It's less confusing if you quote the entire post. The girl first tried to get him to do her and 2 of her friends for 30 k per girl. The day before her 2 friends offered him a 3 some for 30 k per girl. Still with me?

After those 2 offers of 30 k per girl, he took the one girl solo for a cita. She wanted 50 k, but he held firm at 30 k. In the room she demanded payment in advance. He refused and told her he was no longer interested. She walked off in a huff.

It's amazing how often native English speakers need English translated into English.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2387320]Okay, da is 2nd person singular (affirmative) imperative, d is 3rd person imperative. So yeah for sure, "da me lo, Papi!" is 'give it to me, Daddy!' But "dale!" means give it to him or her. I stand by my (Freudian) interpretation of the subconscious of the girl who yells "dale!" when she's getting pounded (esp. doggystyle). It's not "go ahead". That's the point.[/QUOTE]

My PM inbox was full, but I emptied it and now I get some error message when I try to send a message. I sent a message to the moderator to see what I might have done wrong. Oh, and just so I stay on message as though I was actually responding to your post, I think in the context that I have been hearing the term "dale" it is colloquial, and means something like "bring it on"

Hello fellow mongers,

Can someone suggest me Airbnb apartments or hotel which is girls friendly?

Also suggest me some club or place to take out girls. Your help is truly appreciated.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2388041]That I have seen time and time again, SWs will allow photos and maybe videos, most FB girls will not. Most FB girls will attempt to upsell, most SWs won't. Even when they do, the upsell is so small you don't notice it. Here's an example, many on the board say FB chics are $150 k -$300 k. SWs will allow nearly anything for a total of $120 mil, after starting at $40-$50 mil. Does this explain a few differences in SWs & FB girls? Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Not in my experience. I've never had a Facebook girl try to upsell me. The few times I've asked to take photos, the girls have agreed without issue. A few girls have even asked me to take photos.

For 150-200 k I almost always get the following from Facebook girls:

At least 2 hours. Longest has been 12 hours, not counting the 3 hours I spent hanging out with her in the bar. 2. 5-3 hours is pretty typical for me.

BBBJ with no extra charge or even a discussion.

DFK and all the other GFE stuff.

Foreplay, showering together before and after, conversation and photos if I want.

I also get (25-30% of the time) an offer of a second round, TLN, COB, COF, COA, or anal, with no extra cost.

I get all of this by following this complicated, hard-nosed negotiating technique:

Hola. Como estás? Quiero verte. En dos horas. No se. Dos o tres horas. Siempre pago ciento cincuenta mas veinte para el taxi. (Indicates a chica response).

Some want 200 k, but almost always they pay for the taxi. On the rare occasion they say only 1 hour, I pass. No debate or discussion.

I'm not going to make claims about what most SWs will or won't do. All I can do is state what my experience with Facebook girls has been. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Amerioca;2387950]I've got Melissa on my FB and WhatsApp. She is on my hit list. Her price range on photoprepagos is 130k-150k. How was your experience with her?[/QUOTE]If you can get her to respond to you on facebook then you won't be disappointed. Overall she is a great chick if you click with her. But if GFE is important to you then it is important that she responds to you on Facebook rather than her showing up blind from photoprepagos.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2387882]This one is all over the place.


If you're there for a short time and you're there specifically for sex, go for the sure thing. You can find it on the streets, in the bars, strip clubs, casas and massage parlors. You can find it on Colombian Cupid, Tinder, Seeking Arrangements, Photprepagos and Mileroticos. You can find it at the Mansion, or in Parque Lleras.

Or you can find it on Facebook.[/QUOTE]Great post and very well written. That last paragraph particularly was written with excellent cadance, you are making the rest of us look bad. LOL.

[QUOTE=LittlePete;2388124]Hello fellow mongers,

Can someone suggest me Airbnb apartments or hotel which is girls friendly?

Also suggest me some club or place to take out girls. Your help is truly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I was determined that I wanted to stay in El Poblado while I was in Medellin, contrary to what I may say any other time, I like to do more than just have sex all the time when I am on vacation, and I definitely need something else to talk about to family and coworkers other than chicas, so I wanted to be near to Parque Lleras and have really good views of the valley. Living Energy was a no brainer for those two things and the one thing that we are all looking for, the only other building in El poblado that I am fairly certain is girl friendly is called Blux. You can just about do a search in google and enter in something like "vacation apartment El Poblado Blux apartment". Living Energy is not as easy to search in airbnb, I hate airbnb anymore anyway . They do not allow a lot of variable is the search function, they want you to use the menu, it sucls. They are trying to do too much now also, they should stick to apartments only. I used Vrbo last time, I will tell you that most apartments that are in Living Energy can be identified because there is usually a photo of the roof top infinity pool as one of the first photos. Energy Living is the most unique looking building in Medellin so just know that and you will know it when you see a photo of the building.

Another contributor on this thread highly recommends a site called lifeafar. I have noticed they also have places around the Lleras park area that probably do not have security which can work in your favor because no one is checking in visitors so that is as girl friendly as you can get but if you have problems with a chica it can work against you. The people that I rented my apartment from in Living Energy have a little company called Wehost Colombia. But I am sure that they have apartments in many buildings so you still need to ask about the "visitor policy". Many members on this site do not recommend El Poblado at all. I have read but cannot quote from experience that you are much more likely to find girl friendly apartments. Many members recommend apartments located in Laureles the prices are cheaper there and many of them are girl friendly from what I have gathered. But I have never investigated this thoroughly and I do not know much else or particulars about Laureles. El Poblado is more expensive because it draws tourists of all types so demand inflates the price. I personally will look harder at apartments in Laureles on my next trip.

Another nice area is called Envigado, it is a suburb just outside of the city limits of Medellin to the south, but I have heard that it is very safe, but i do not know particulars about apartments there,

I also want to add that the descriptions in the apartments can be a little dishonest, or exaggerated about things that are near by, One apartment in Blux described the Interplaza, which is a multilevel complex with restaurants, drug store, atms, etc as being 'across the street" when in reality you would need to walk about 100 yards up a steep hill and then walk about another block down the street and take your life in your hands crossing said street , ok not really but yes it is a busy street with no stop light and they are moving fast. Then the description for said apartment said there was a Supermarket 200 meters away. Makes it sound like its walking distance but the closest supermarket I saw was Carulla its more like about 700 meters uphill. The thing about El Poblado is it is essentially on the side of a mountain.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2388044] Who gets more looks walking down the street, the skinny-assed chica, or the one wandering down the street with her tits and ass bouncing ? The second one for sure![/QUOTE]"For sure" you believe? I love the extent you are so sure about your personal preferences. You love that, I love the other one.

This reminds me the men in Ecuador, who love so much "mujeres [I]voluptuosas[/I]". They really love those fat gross legs and trunks. They call them [I]voluptuosas[/I], I call them fat.

In Medellin, I turn my head to watch teen-type skinny girls, with little curves but with the right intact shape (better without tattoos). Exciting!

[QUOTE=LittlePete;2388124]Hello fellow mongers,

Can someone suggest me Airbnb apartments or hotel which is girls friendly?

Also suggest me some club or place to take out girls. Your help is truly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm going to suggest something better. For hotel and apartment information, go to the main page for Colombia on this site. Scroll down to the thread "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments. Read through the most recent 4 to 6 pages of posts.

To find girls, begin in this section. Read through the most recent 25 to 30 pages of posts.

Medellin isn't whatever city you are used to visiting. Things are done differently. There may be similarities, but without knowing your prior experience, nobody knows. Your posts don't help. According to your other posts you planned on visiting Boca Chica, DR and planned to visit Bogota already and you're now planning to visit Bogota again for the first time, as well as visiting Medellin.

I understand that plans change. Trips need to be cancelled or postponed. Sometimes you plan something and then you find you can't afford to go.

However, even if you can't make a planned trip, you should always do research. Research is much more than asking "where can I stay" and "where can I find girls. " It's learning what part of the city or country is more closely aligned to your tastes and expectations. Here's an explanation:

If you're from Dubai and you travel to upscale destinations and stay in only 5 star hotels, you might be terrified of El Centro in Medellin, or Santa Fe in Bogota. You might be disgusted with the hotels and restaurants you'll find. You may feel so out of place, you can't even think about finding girls.

Or, El Centro might feel like home to you. Only you can decide after you do the research.

Besides this site you might want to search Google for Colombia expat sites. You'll find more cultural information there along with better descriptions of the various sections of Medellin and Bogota.

You should also read the Medellin Lists thread on this site. You'll find World Travel 69's excellent map of mongering locations there. Using the map, use Google Street view to check out the areas around the different places. Get an idea what to expect in that location.

If you would rather not bother doing the research, I can only suggest 1 option. Stay at the Mansion. Search Google for "Hotel M Medellin." The current official name is Hotel Medellin Plaza. You can book a room through their website. I suggest booking at least 3 weeks in advance. They are usually booked. You will need to tell them you learned about their hotel on this website.

At the Mansion you'll find plenty of mongers. Many have been staying there for many years. You'll find a bar where you can take out girls. You'll find a pool where you can take out girls. You will find guys who know a lot about Medellin and you will find guys who don't know anything.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2388062]Point taken. But I would have used Raquel Welch as an example. She was born with the name Jo Raquel Tejada so she was a chica.[/QUOTE]Raquel Welch was half chica; her father was from Bolivia and her mother was English. My favorite pin up of all time.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2388044]I appreciate a lot of what you have said. But what you don't seem to get is that for many guys, a tall skinny chick with no tits is not beautiful or sexy, not at all! And most of these Facebook chicas whose photos appear on this thread are that type. Sure they may have a pretty face, so only good enough for a blowjob as far as I'm concerned!

When did the image of a skinny catwalk model become the definition of a sexy woman? Have so many guys been brainwashed by the western media's definition of what constitutes sexy? The same way our women have, all trying to get skinny and fit into a smaller size dress! What happened to the Marilyn Monroe look? Who gets more looks walking down the street, the skinny-assed chica, or the one wandering down the street with her tits and ass bouncing ? The second one for sure![/QUOTE]What if all men liked the same type of women? I like the fact that many men like curvy women or short women with big boobs and butt. I also like the fact that many men would not session tall skinny women, that means more availability for me. Call me brainwashed or not I love tall skinny women. If I am walking down a street and a chica passes by with tits and ass bouncing she would certainly turn my head but I would choose the slim senorita for my bed mate; not that I would refuse the buxom babe if no twiggies are around.

[QUOTE=LittlePete;2388124]Hello fellow mongers,

Can someone suggest me Airbnb apartments or hotel which is girls friendly?

Also suggest me some club or place to take out girls. Your help is truly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hotel Madeiro in Poblado is chica-friendly, and has jacuzzi tubs too, which is hard to find, and can be fun.

I would want to stay in Laurales instead, but my buddy is coming to Medellin for first time, so staying by him in Poblado.

I messaged Hotel Madeiro first, and asked. As long as they have a cedula (ID), no problem. And they have someone there to check, which I like.

Might be an issue if you have Venezuelans though. Not sure if they only take Colombian ID's.

I booked on Expedia. You can find on there.

This is my first time staying here, but I'll report back on how it is.

Have fun everyone!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2388245]What if all men liked the same type of women? I like the fact that many men like curvy women or short women with big boobs and butt. I also like the fact that many men would not session tall skinny women, that means more availability for me. Call me brainwashed or not I love tall skinny women. If I am walking down a street and a chica passes by with tits and ass bouncing she would certainly turn my head but I would choose the slim senorita for my bed mate; not that I would refuse the buxom babe if no twiggies are around.[/QUOTE]Good point. I like slim and stacked but if none available heavier is OK for me. Big boobs are my default option jajajajaj. BTW I will be making my foray into Medellin November 17 - 24. Already have an English-speaking guide lined up as well as five busty stunners I met on cupid. I'll be staying near the beer factory so if anyone want to join me for cervezas just PM me. Salud!

Would Repeat? Yes, and have.

Damage: 2100 pesos 1-2 hours; 1 leche. 9 PM – Morn 3500.6 pm – Morn 5500.

$55/ night + tax for single basic room.

Quality looks: 6-8.

GFE: 6-9, varies – but butter than average. Being around a few days develops the rapport I think. If you decide todo la noche, they'll hang out all night on your arm, dance, kisses, take upstairs any time, go in jacuzzi. Chill out. Have dinner together or with another couple. Only knock here is the limited English (y me espanol es muy malo jajaja) But still better than average street walker Sosua English fo sho!

PSE: 5-8, varies – but with a captive audience, you will find more freaks in Sosua proper. Some good Deep Throat, body slides with my coconut oil I brought, moaning, generally receptive to instruction. Not much A+, but wasn't really looking.

Blackbeard's resort is a nice relaxing break from Sosua for a few days. I recommend checking it out, although I personally prefer Sosua. So I'll explain the fun to be had here (which is great), and why I like Sosua more (greater). Includes some tips on maximizing your fun with the chicas, getting smoke, plusses and minuses. This is not a new place, so for anyone who hasn't been, I'll just briefly say that it's basically a monger hotel with on-site chicas all day. Read the bottom for more. For the rest, here are my best personal.

Recommendations:

- Jacuzzi. I always take the chica to the jacuzzi before taking them upstairs. It's a great place to have a drink, check out her naked body more closely, feel the body, and check the chemistry up close. Most of these chicas will be grinding & rubbing in the jacuzzi, stroking, maybe light DFK. After your drink is wrapping up, you can sit on the edge and have her blow you, test her ball-licking skills, etc. If all this is good, then take her upstairs! *Warning. If you bust a nut in the hot tub, that counts as a leche! So just test it out before going upstairs If she didn't want to go in the jacuzzi first, I said thanks anyway and moved along. Also, all chicas should be naked in the hot tub (you too). If they don't want to get naked, there is probably an issue, and I would skip. I took up one without going to jacuzzi first, against my rule, and it sucked! (This was the only chica that sucked here and had bad attitude. The rest were fun.

The jacuzzi is also nice if you're a bit of a voyeur. It probably could fit 20 people or so, although never saw more than 12 – and I arranged it! LOL There will be other naked guests and chicas in the jacuzzi too on occasion, so makes for a nice view of another naked chica while another is grinding on you. This is a great place to chat with other mongers, and I said to a few others – let's take some girls in the jacuzzi! About 5 of us gather 7 chicas all naked in there, passing around and feeling the different chicas, then back where we started to our original. There is no cost to this if you're taking the chica up afterward. I think there's some small fee if you don't take her up. *Warning: Don't get the girls' hair wet, or they will sever your balls off and shove them up your asshole. These ladies spend a lot of money on their weaves! As long as you don't get the hair wet.

Good times will be had by all.

- Smoke+. Some of these chicas partake in various extracerebral activities. Pretty much whatever goes inside your room. No one seemed to care about anything. But don't do in public / common areas. You can feel the chicas out. None of them cared about smoking, and if they partake also, they should know where to grab some. Some of these chicas like to party / drink / smoke / whatever. So if you have the goods, you'll probably have a bunch of chicas hanging around you a lot, even when you're not paying to get dirty. Good times were had by all hahahhahaah.

Drunk putas. This is true with most putas, but they're usually more fun when they're a little tipsy or drunk. This will naturally happen later in the evening. Either by putas soliciting drinks from various guys, or you buying the drinks or yourself (or a little of both). I recommend. Drinks are a bit pricy here, so I also recommend keeping a bottle or two of good western liquor (from Duty free?) with some mixers in your room. I think they usually prefer vodka or tequila. Not as many whiskey drinkers here.

*Warning. One night, I take this fun, but not best-looking puta for TLN. We were joking, drinking, fooling around all night. Back in the room. She's fucked up. Deep throat. Gagging on me. Wrap it up and get down. Eventually, she's too drunk to keep going. In morning, I see a shirt on floor with puke on it (ugh). She wakes up, apologizes profusely and throws it away. Apparently she puked when she was gagging on me night before. And was too fucked up to deal with it. Yikes! Anyway, not really a mess. Felt kinda bad for her. But know your limits chica! Anyway, shit happens. Don't get 'them too drunk. Was still a fun night.

- 2 bedroom rooms. They have some 2 br rooms, and if you have a friend who wants to join, I highly recommend, rather than getting 2 x 1 bedrooms. There is a living room and little bar area in the 2 br's, and it's a great place to hang out and party with the chicas. Again, even if you haven't decided to pay to take a girl to the sack, you can invite them in for a drink and smoke, and they're likely to join, hang out. If you're partying and providing inebriants, they'll probably hang, start getting naked, and convince you to go the rest of the way LOL.

Me and my buddy had one of these rooms, and we're partying with 2 chicks in there, just in their panties. Drinking, smoking, buddy and chicas partaking in more. And my chica just gets on her knees and starts blowing me in the living room while I'm standing there drinking a beer. The other chica sees this and tries to outdo her blowing my buddy. Can see her tits bouncing up and down as she's blowing my buddy, and look down to see the other pair of tits bouncing below my chica's face while she slobbers on mine. I wanted to bang them both on the same bed and the chicas were down. But my buddy was not. I guess he's a little shy (or I'm too not? So we threw them in to our respective rooms and finished 'them off.

- Fellow mongers. I'm mid 30's, and the crowd is a bit older here (mid 40's to 60's). Turned out to still be a great group of folks to chat with, despite the bit of age difference. I like meeting new people in general. Great opportunity to get mongering tips around the world. Chat about different businesses. A lot of these folks have had some interesting lives. Also got some recommendations on various chicas at Blackbeards and places to stay in Sosua from outgoing folks. And even a stock tip I made some money on LOL (Not that I recommend buying stocks from recommendations at bars at brothels, but I was just fucking around. LOL).

- Mailing list. Their website has a mailing list, which includes more info / pictures, etc than their website. Sign up for their email list on their website if you're interested. [URL]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/URL].

Warnings.

- Bar spending. The bar prices are creeping towards western prices. I think one night, my bar bill was like $120. Not going to kill me. But not quite DR prices either LOL. Bought a bunch of cocktails and shots for myself, a chica, and a couple rounds for some other mongers. Good times were had by all. And no regrets. But the bar just records all the drinks and you settle the bill when you check out. So may want to settle up daily if you're not sure how much you're drinking LOL.

Special events.

Saturday afternoons. Fun.

(I believe at 4 PM but call and check.), they have a "bikini party. " Fun time. Worth checking out. Some guys come from outside, and you are welcome to even if you are not staying here. This is actually a one-by-one dance off around the pool. The girls come by one and bump and grind on the three "judges"/ mongers for bragging rights winner. I recommend volunteering to be a judge. Like getting a short lap dance from every chica at the place. For free The girls are also drinking more, hanging by the pool having fun. Just a more fun / happy atmosphere. The dance competition also sorta gets the chicas to one-up each other, getting wilder, which is fun.

Sunday evening Jacuzzi "Party" - Lame.

Jacuzzi party – lame! At least when I was there. They really just used it as a photo op to snap the girls in the jacuzzi. No guys were invited in, and they didn't even announce it. The girls just snuck off and did it.

The basics.

For those who are newer to Blackbeard's, here's some more basics. The chicas have been screened and hired by the mamasan that manages them at the hotel, and they are the same chicas every day, working in two shifts roughly. It's also very safe, and don't have to worry about chica or drink scams or getting too fucked up, things stolen, etc. Kinda like a Sosua Disneyland LOL The mongering crowd tends to be on the older side (mid-40's to 60's+), mostly because of the tame / easy environment.

Upsides: basically because it is easy / safe:

- Safe, controlled environment. All chicas have been screened and "work" there.

- Chicas right downstairs, on-site. Go chat, buy a drink, or take straight upstairs (after jacuzzi). No taxis or long hot walk to hotel.

- Fixed pricing. It's right on the menu in the room. 1 x, 2 x, toda la noche. No incessant back-and-forth.

- More English speaking than the average Sosua chica.

- Bar downstairs, pool, billiards, and pretty good food from on-site restaurant.

- Beach and some other restaurants nearby.

- Can bring outside women from club in town if you want.

- Get more rapport with regular chicas can build on the experience.

Downsides:

- Same chicas every day. I would guess about 20-25 total (Why I don't recommend more than 2-3 nights).

- Not a ton to do in immediate area. Decent beach short walk down the street. A few restaurants in area. And a club or two in town. So just chill by the pool and have a drink.

- If you like the thrill of the chase / hunt or finding something new, that does not exist here.

- Prices are higher than most in Sosua, especially for drinks.

- They discourage you from bringing outside alcohol and water. They want you to buy it there. (Although they don't seem to be upset if you have a bottle of your fav liquor in your room. Just don't bring downstairs.).

Overall, a good experience. And would encourage everyone to check it out at least when in Sosua.

Good times were had by all!

Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look. ? (besides just generally on FB) Me espanol es muy malo!!

Prefer young and beautiful.

I'm not just asking for a handout. I posted 5 detailed trip reports from Bangkok, Curacao, and the Dominican Republic. Including a previously unreviewed BBFS in BKK, and where to find some smoke in various countries I can also help out in Medellin.

Medellin in Nov, and will report back also.

Muchas Gracias!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2384128]Thanks for the advice. Where can I buy turkey bags in Medellin?

I have bribed the airport authorities in Kenya; I didn't have the required yellow fever shots, they wouldn't let me in the country. I also bribed cops once or twice in Russia and Eastern Europe. Those situations are all out of desperation, I didn't enjoy them at all. I always start the bribe with 40 dollars and see where it goes. I will be extra careful with what I carry in Medellin. However, if the situation arises, what is the typical bribing amount? Is it in pesos or in dollars?[/QUOTE]There's plenty of whatever you would want there in Medellin. Why bring anything with you?

[QUOTE=Travel365;2388303]Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look. ? (besides just generally on FB) Me espanol es muy malo!!
Prefer young and beautiful.
[/QUOTE]You can find several at La Isla but their service may be malo so you need to limit the number of drinks you buy before figuring that out.

Are you advertising for Blackbeards in DR?

[QUOTE=Travel365;2388297]Would Repeat? Yes, and have.

Damage: 2100 pesos 1-2 hours; 1 leche. 9 PM Morn 3500.6 pm Morn 5500.

$55/ night + tax for single basic room.

Quality looks: 6-8.

GFE: 6-9, varies but butter than average. Being around a few days develops the rapport I think. If you decide todo la noche, they'll hang out all night on your arm, dance, kisses, take upstairs any time, go in jacuzzi. Chill out. Have dinner together or with another couple. Only knock here is the limited English (y me espanol es muy malo jajaja) But still better than average street walker Sosua English fo sho!

PSE: 5-8, varies but with a captive audience, you will find more freaks in Sosua proper. Some good Deep Throat, body slides with my coconut oil I brought, moaning, generally receptive to instruction. Not much A+, but wasn't really looking..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2388408]Are you advertising for Blackbeards in DR?[/QUOTE]So basically you intend to point out that a post is OOT or misplaced, then you quote it entirely in full, so that it is even posted twice.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2388408]Are you advertising for Blackbeards in DR?[/QUOTE]I could have sworn I was in the DR forum. My mistake. I apologize.

Not advertising for them, but put the plusses and minuses. I had a good time. Recommend it.

I'll be more careful about posting in the correct forum in future. Sorry about that again!

[QUOTE=Travel365;2388326]There's plenty of whatever you would want there in Medellin. Why bring anything with you?[/QUOTE]I imagine that a reason to bring your own into MDE is almost all that is for sale in MDE is treated with chemicals.

One way to know for sure is if you use a lot, and it makes you sick rather than spaced out.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2384000]I'm surprised I don't see much reports on parque Lleras in comparison as the reports I have seen on fb girls and el centro. [/QUOTE]In the context of Medellin Parque Lleras is just not the best option, I used it, and I liked it okay but there are some bad aspects compared to El Centro and FB, or even casas for that matter. The going rate in Lleras Parque is 200 k, versus the 30 k you hear about in El Centro, and they are not all beauty queens in Parque Lleras, those you have to shop around for. They are also more conservative about things like GFE and BBBJ, so its kind of like the price of a FB girl with the service level of an El Centro chica. I found some really cute SWs in parque Lleras but I did not see a whole lot of them. So while the ideal of pros and semi-pros in this one area sounds good to an outsider, in the context of Medellin you can do better for looks and service on FB and you can do much better on price and possible the same for looks if you shop around in El Centro. But if it's night time, I personally am not going to be in El Centro.

I little while back I wrote a short post on building a list of Medellin Facebook prepago friends. I want to mention a couple of tricks or tips to what I have been doing to build my list more. Some of this may be common sense to many people but I had to learn this. Many members have commented for example that not many chicas have their friends list open to see. When that is the case, I recommend using a side door to see at least some of their friends. This is done by clicking on one of their photos and looking at the "likes". Clicking on the "like" "love" "wow" icons brings up the list of people who liked, etc the photo and these are often people in their friends list. This is also something to be considered if you are using your real FB profile, you can and should set up privacy on your posts so that your prepago friends do not see the posts. So that the prepagos can not like the posts and end up being seen by people you do not want to see them. The list of people who like these photos is, of course, a partial list of their friends but it is a path to seeing more profiles and possible their prepago friends. You can also use this to look for gringo / monger names, which are the names that are, of course, usually not the standard spanish names that their Colombian male friends will have. In the beginning a chica with likes from gringos is your best lead, but I now have, confirmed through messaging, some prepago friends that do not show any gringo friends.

Do not expect each and every prepago to accept your friend request. For extra measures, another thing to do, after you have sent them the friend request , look at their photos to see in you are able to "like" them, if so then click like on a couple so that your name comes up in notifications as well as their friend request feed. Still not every prepago accepts my friend request. In fact sometimes for me it's more like one out of five. Why? I don't know and I don't care. I got one didn't I? I move on. Sometimes I have deleted the request, then come back later and send it again and it gets accepted. If you see that a chica definitely looks like a prepago, but she is not your type, add her anyway. The objective is to make as many FB friends that travel in the same circles as the prepagos that you want, then some will even be coming to you in the form of friend suggestions and friend requests, add add add. Expand that network of friends in Medellin, Bello, Itagui, Envigado, south to Caldas and east to El Ceja, they are all around and in that valley. I add all of them whether they are too large for my taste, too skinny for my taste or just not attractive enough for my taste, I add them all, then I pilfer their friends list.

I use the bookmark feature in my browser to keep track of where I left off when I was last searching for prepagos. I save the next profile I intend to search in a purpose made folder in the browsers bookmarks. This means these searches are better done on a laptop or a desktop computer, its a real pain to try and do this in the mobile app. If you are stuck using your phone at the very least open up the browser to access Facebook instead of using the app.

I spend about and hour or so in the night searching and as I stated in an earlier post, I probably have north of 450 prepago profiles, and probably now north of 100 hundred that I think are attractive. I added 15 attractive profiles since I got home Friday, but have spend some time doing this weekend because I have a bad cold I am too sick to do anything else.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/1843803649039298/posts/2485246704894986/?sfnsn=mo[/URL]

[QUOTE=Travel365;2388303]Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look. ? (besides just generally on FB) Me espanol es muy malo!!

Prefer young and beautiful.

I'm not just asking for a handout. I posted 5 detailed trip reports from Bangkok, Curacao, and the Dominican Republic. Including a previously unreviewed BBFS in BKK, and where to find some smoke in various countries I can also help out in Medellin.

Medellin in Nov, and will report back also.

Muchas Gracias![/QUOTE]I think there were a couple of girls in Fase Dos.

My advise, for mongering, you really don't need too much Spanish. Take a cheap unlocked smart phone. The likes of BLU etc work fine. After you get into the country, get a SIM card, I got one with claro, for about 5 mil pesos. I then added a data heavy plan. I got 2 gigs, 750 minutes, 750 texts, for 2 weeks, for 20 mil pesos. Load, Google maps, Google translate, WhatsApp, Facebook etc. You are set. I even had dinner conversations fine with Google translate. Don't over think it, just jump in and have fun. If a chicks doesn't work out, move on to the next. There is plenty.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2388473]In the context of Medellin Parque Lleras is just not the best option, I used it, and I liked it okay but there are some bad aspects compared to El Centro and FB, or even casas for that matter. The going rate in Lleras Parque is 200 k, versus the 30 k you hear about in El Centro, and they are not all beauty queens in Parque Lleras, those you have to shop around for. They are also more conservative about things like GFE and BBBJ, so its kind of like the price of a FB girl with the service level of an El Centro chica. I found some really cute SWs in parque Lleras but I did not see a whole lot of them. So while the ideal of pros and semi-pros in this one area sounds good to an outsider, in the context of Medellin you can do better for looks and service on FB and you can do much better on price and possible the same for looks if you shop around in El Centro. But if it's night time, I personally am not going to be in El Centro.[/QUOTE]I would have to say Parque Lleras has a balance to it like now there is always police on the streets and the girls are more normal they would sit and drink with you for just a tip or even just to drink. And I normally pay 150 k for around 4 hours with any girl.

[QUOTE=Travel365;2388303]Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look. ? (besides just generally on FB) Me espanol es muy malo!!

Prefer young and beautiful.

I'm not just asking for a handout. I posted 5 detailed trip reports from Bangkok, Curacao, and the Dominican Republic. Including a previously unreviewed BBFS in BKK, and where to find some smoke in various countries I can also help out in Medellin.

Medellin in Nov, and will report back also.

Muchas Gracias![/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000381220358&__tn__=%2Cd[/URL]

This chick is nice and speaks good English. I can't say she is a puta because she never charged. But she doesn't have a problem fucking so make her an offer she can't refuse.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2388238]I'm going to suggest something better. For hotel and apartment information, go to the main page for Colombia on this site. Scroll down to the thread "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments. Read through the most recent 4 to 6 pages of posts.

To find girls, begin in this section. Read through the most recent 25 to 30 pages of posts.

Medellin isn't whatever city you are used to visiting. Things are done differently. There may be similarities, but without knowing your prior experience, nobody knows. Your posts don't help. According to your other posts you planned on visiting Boca Chica, DR and planned to visit Bogota already and you're now planning to visit Bogota again for the first time, as well as visiting Medellin.

I understand that plans change. Trips need to be cancelled or postponed. Sometimes you plan something and then you find you can't afford to go.

However, even if you can't make a planned trip, you should always do research. Research is much more than asking "where can I stay" and "where can I find girls. " It's learning what part of the city or country is more closely aligned to your tastes and expectations. Here's an explanation:

If you're from Dubai and you travel to upscale destinations and stay in only 5 star hotels, you might be terrified of El Centro in Medellin, or Santa Fe in Bogota. You might be disgusted with the hotels and restaurants you'll find. You may feel so out of place, you can't even think about finding girls..[/QUOTE](Thanks man for this info. This will help to get good start. Any recommendations on clubs where I can pick or takeout girls. Not the expensive ones. I will provide detailed report after my visit. I am visiting Bogota from 23-27th November and followed by Medellin till 3rd December. Your help is very much needed).

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2388473]In the context of Medellin Parque Lleras is just not the best option, I used it, and I liked it okay but there are some bad aspects compared to El Centro and FB, or even casas for that matter. The going rate in Lleras Parque is 200 k, versus the 30 k you hear about in El Centro, and they are not all beauty queens in Parque Lleras, those you have to shop around for. They are also more conservative about things like GFE and BBBJ, so its kind of like the price of a FB girl with the service level of an El Centro chica. I found some really cute SWs in parque Lleras but I did not see a whole lot of them. So while the ideal of pros and semi-pros in this one area sounds good to an outsider, in the context of Medellin you can do better for looks and service on FB and you can do much better on price and possible the same for looks if you shop around in El Centro. But if it's night time, I personally am not going to be in El Centro.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I ask bcuz from what I seen on YouTube and before I get attacked I know you can't make a great assessment from those videos but Parque Lleras looks like it's active. I can't wait to touchdown in a couple weeks and see for myself. I know many of the veterans of the Medellin forum say many of the Lleras chicks are the same ones you see in Centro just made up and dressed up and I take all that into account.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2388726]I know many of the veterans of the Medellin forum say many of the Lleras chicks are the same ones you see in Centro just made up and dressed up and I take all that into account.[/QUOTE]Most said they were told, not that they actually seen it. The other thing is that most venis don't have the required ID to get into many apartments or even short time hotels. In El Centro at least there are several short time hotels they are allowed.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2388726]Thanks. I ask bcuz from what I seen on YouTube and before I get attacked I know you can't make a great assessment from those videos but Parque Lleras looks like it's active.[/QUOTE]What videos have you seen? Of course Parque Lleras is active. There are tons of restaurants and bars that locals as well as tourist go to, especially on weekend nights. It is the nightlife area of the city. You got your Hooters, your Juan Valdez, and a bunch of other places there.

Putting in time anywhere is a factor, I've been with many mongers from this group and many will attest, places that won't allow girls without a cédula, don't give me problems that they give other mongers. I chalk it up to my frequency of being seen in the area and the fact I never have problems with the girls and we don't break anything in the hotels where we stay. I was recently with a monger and he wanted a date with this Vinnie, he said they won't let her into the hotel she has no ID, I grabbed her hand, took her in with me, he came to my room and she went to his room. Hotels and businesses in Centro are not into losing money or ruining their reputation. If you are a reliable customer who never gives problems or cause waves, businesses never question you, not in Centro from my experiences. But I do make as many as 18 trips yearly. I am also venturing out into short term hotels just to see what they look like on the inside. Right now the most reliable short term hotel in Parque Botero is Zona Rosa, I have sent many mongers there and they have never complained about paying $16 mil for 3 hours, my next trip if I get the chance, I will check out other short time hotels and their do's and don'ts. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2388116]Almost by default Facebook girls will spend at least 2 hours with me for the initial agreed upon price. Even if the street girl is willing to stay for 2 hours for 30-50 k, the short time room is going to be knocking on the door every 20 minutes wanting another 10 k. Granted, I'm spending 150-200 k for the 2 hours, but I often get much more than 2 hours.?[/QUOTE]For those who know nothing about the short time love motels in El Centro, your rationale for going with a FB girl versus a street girl makes perfect sense. Nobody wants to be with a street girl for two hours in a room getting knocks on the door every twenty minutes and shelling out 10 K each time they get the knock. Sounds like a compelling reason to not even mess with an El Centro street girl for a two hour session.

You may not be aware of this, but within a 500 foot radius of the Veracruz Church within the pedestrian walkways, the bar area behind the Church, and over to the Museum there is at least 20 short time Hotels of which I have been in over half of them. The pricing "generally speaking" ranges from 5 K to 22 K at these short time Hotels. The 5 K Hotels about thirty minutes, the 10 K Hotels about an hour, and the Hotels from between 13 and 16 K are an hour and a half, and the 22 K Hotel three hours.

I don't suggest using the 5 and 10 K short time Hotels, dirty, cold water, and a good chance to get scabies. I recommend either the Zona Rosa Hotel directly in front of the Veracruz Church at 13 K or the Premium Plaza Hotel midway between the Church and the Museum at 16 K and at both Hotels you will get at least an hour and a half. At least I do, as I know most of the employees and I always give them at least a 1 to 2 K tip so I guess I am a preferred customer. It's to bad they don't have a rewards program at these two hotels as I would have a lot of "ratos" built up. For a longer stay of 3 hours, I recommend Calle Real up the pedestrian walkway towards the Metro. After three hours at any of these places you are looking at the Hotels daily rate.

So hopefully this information will be of use to others, in that what you posted is inaccurate.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2388748]Most said they were told, not that they actually seen it. The other thing is that most venis don't have the required ID to get into many apartments or even short time hotels. In El Centro at least there are several short time hotels they are allowed.[/QUOTE]I, like you, am skeptical that very many El Centro 30 K street walkers also work Parque Lleras. I say this as the Parque Lleras girls I have spoken with in the past have had some English speaking skills and are better dressed. That's just my theory based on my observations. And the Vennies like you mentioned lots of times don't have Cedulas and Passports and are being denied entry into places. And from what I was told at one short time Hotel in El Centro they won't let them either because they had some problems with them. In other words, if there is a problem they have no way of reporting them, etc. Whereas someone with a Passport or Cedula can be tracked.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2388751]What videos have you seen? Of course Parque Lleras is active. There are tons of restaurants and bars that locals as well as tourist go to, especially on weekend nights. It is the nightlife area of the city. You got your Hooters, your Juan Valdez, and a bunch of other places there.[/QUOTE]When I posted that I meant in relation to all the post I see about el centro. I'm more interested in parque Lleras not bcuz I'm afraid Of El centro I'm from East Oakland I don't scare too easily and I speak Spanish I'm more drawn to Lleras bcuz of the restaurants and clubs I'm certain are "nicer " and from various Vlogs looks like Parque Lleras has nice SW's but on the more recent post I mainly see talk about el centro and Plaza Botero. And I get it, you going to pay more in Lleras than what you pay in el centro.

[QUOTE=DamonBlack;2388566]I would have to say Parque Lleras has a balance to it like now there is always police on the streets and the girls are more normal they would sit and drink with you for just a tip or even just to drink. And I normally pay 150 k for around 4 hours with any girl.[/QUOTE]This is what I thought from what I have seen and read and why I asked about not being many post on parque Lleras SWs.

I visited lovely Colombia in May this year. I stayed in Laureles in a nice apartment. I started my 3 day trip with a short walk to a chica's apartment that I had met online. 20 year old spinner 1 hour of GFE for 120 k. I spent some time checking out museums and other attractions. I also checked out a few casas and mostly just looked because the talent seemed a little tired. I then started to hit up some online pages to search. Finally after exchanging with a few chicas I met a lovely lady. 24 yo, light tan and big butt. We did TLN for 250 k plus breakfast and drinks.

Finally I gathered my balls and walked around el Centro. I was there from 4-5 PM and saw a lot of ogres, but quite a few lovely chicas. I approached two cuties standing together and wanted a double BBBJ but they only did CBJ. Shame. Passed on that and went back to base and messaged a chica from FB who said she had a friend that can help me with my request.

Overall it was a blast, and there are many options for fun there. Just try your best to not stick out. Wear jeans, and keep the facial hair short or bare. Good luck all!

Hows it going guys? I am making my first trip to Medellin next month, first time in South America, although I am active in NYC, Caribbean and some spots in Europe (Amsterdam & London).

Spanish is rusty but from what I read here that shouldn't be too much of a problem? What are the best mongering options for Medellin? El Centro or Parque Lleras? Whats the difference as far as quality of chicas and cost?

Much appreciated! I will be sure to report on my return.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=DamonBlack;2388566]I would have to say Parque Lleras has a balance to it like now there is always police on the streets and the girls are more normal they would sit and drink with you for just a tip or even just to drink. And I normally pay 150 k for around 4 hours with any girl.[/QUOTE]150 K for 4 hours?? Share your secret mate, maybe it'll help people like me who can't get past 2 HR for 200 k rate. LOL.

[QUOTE=DamonBlack;2388566]I would have to say Parque Lleras has a balance to it like now there is always police on the streets and the girls are more normal they would sit and drink with you for just a tip or even just to drink. And I normally pay 150 k for around 4 hours with any girl.[/QUOTE]Add some tussi and they'll stay for 24 hours.

Are there love motels around Parque LLeras & if so what are the names & cost?

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2388871]Add some tussi and they'll stay for 24 hours.[/QUOTE]Tussi, what's that?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2388892]Tussi, what's that?[/QUOTE]It is this deodorant cream that was popular back in the 70's. You applied it with your fingertips then everyone would think you had French tips. Or maybe he meant tusi, which is 2CB, a synthetic drug.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2388895]It is this deodorant that was popular back in the 70's. You apply it with your fingertips. Or maybe he meant tusi.[/QUOTE]You don't miss a beat, your reply has me rolling!! You are again correct! Pollo negro is out!

A popular synthetic street drug that, along with its users, is best avoided.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2388892]Tussi, what's that?[/QUOTE]

You are on to something with the facial hair tip. I never thought about it much but it's true that beards are very rare. Mustaches are also not popular for the under 40 crowd. The Juan Valdez look is more of a Santander country thing.

[QUOTE=Phindo44;2388819]I visited lovely Colombia in May this year. I stayed in Laureles in a nice apartment. I started my 3 day trip with a short walk to a chica's apartment that I had met online. 20 year old spinner 1 hour of GFE for 120 k. I spent some time checking out museums and other attractions. I also checked out a few casas and mostly just looked because the talent seemed a little tired. I then started to hit up some online pages to search. Finally after exchanging with a few chicas I met a lovely lady. 24 yo, light tan and big butt. We did TLN for 250 k plus breakfast and drinks.

Finally I gathered my balls and walked around el Centro. I was there from 4-5 PM and saw a lot of ogres, but quite a few lovely chicas. I approached two cuties standing together and wanted a double BBBJ but they only did CBJ. Shame. Passed on that and went back to base and messaged a chica from FB who said she had a friend that can help me with my request.

Overall it was a blast, and there are many options for fun there. Just try your best to not stick out. Wear jeans, and keep the facial hair short or bare. Good luck all![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2388818]This is what I thought from what I have seen and read and why I asked about not being many post on parque Lleras SWs.[/QUOTE]Probably because you don't see but 4 hoes (if that) at a time walking around the park. And I suspect a good majority of those go there to hustle foreigners. The shit is weird to me. You got a couple thousand or more normal people having a good time hanging at the restaurants and bar hoping, then in the middle if it all you have 2 hoes that keep walking around in circles at the park. I don't think many people go to the center of the main entertainment area to pick hookers out of a park.

Downtown is more of the normal hoe circuit where there are tons of chicks there day in and day out to service locals. The good news is that you don't have to do everything in the same place. You can get your chicks from a different place than you hang out at your fancy restaurants. Being from the EBay you will wonder what the big deal was and why everyone is so scared.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2388815]I, like you, am skeptical that very many El Centro 30 K street walkers also work Parque Lleras. I say this as the Parque Lleras girls I have spoken with in the past have had some English speaking skills and are better dressed. [/QUOTE]I am going to have to debunk my own post of Sunday afternoon after what I experienced in El Centro on Sunday afternoon.

I am not really sure where to begin with what transpired, so I will keep it in chronological order.

I returned from a long weekend in San Geronimo with my weekend girlfriend on the bus around 11:30 AM arriving at the Norte bus station where I kissed her good-by, and then hopped on the Metro getting off at the Parque Berrio Station for a 12 PM rendezvous with my Indian Princess in El Centro. A tall, slim creature, kind of like a Zebra, and tight as a drum, and Indigenas, but she swears she isn't. After our session I boarded the Metro and headed to my apartment, stopping for food and supplies on the way.

At 4 PM I decided to return to El Centro and traveled on the Metro arriving at 4:30 PM at ground zero (Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52). For some reason I have always found Sunday afternoons to be good in El Centro, not nearly as many people out, but something good always seems to pop up for me.

El Centro for me is kinda like an ice cream shop, or perhaps a candy store with so many different flavors and varieties available. After arriving in El Centro I made my rounds which is basically one big rectangle around the Church, the pedestrian walkway on one side and the bars on the backside. I spotted five of my regulars out all wanting to go upstairs with me, but was in the mood for a spinner. I have two little regular spinners that I hadn't seen out this last week so I kept my eye's open looking for a new one to add to the stable. After about 15 minutes making the rounds I decided to park myself in the middle of the Pedestrian walkway and watch what walked by. I then noticed a dinky little thing walking in front of the Church, past the telephone booths, who then parked herself in front of one of my favorite short term Hotels. I decided to take a close look at this one as I had never seen her in El Centro before.

I approached her and stood next to her and she said Hello,. We started chatting, she was an older Chica, she said she was 28, not a beauty queen, but not ugly, and what a cute little ass with see cup titties. I asked her the question I ask all new Chicas I meet in EL Centro, what are you doing here, and the answer is always "working". So after checking out the merchandise and in the mood for a dinky little spinner with big titties, and a bubble gum ass, I asked her how much and she responded how long do you want me for. That was a totally different response than most street girls come at you with, so I said only an hour. She said 40 K and I pay for the room, and it included BBBJ. So while we were walking upstairs to reception I told her that I did not want a misunderstanding in the room and that I always pay afterwards and she said no problem. Anytime I go with a new one I always inform of them of this before entering the room.

So after entering the room she gets half undressed, opens up her purse, and pulls out a little vibrator and asks me if I would use this on her. I couldn't refuse as I had just hit pay-dirt but never actually used it as the batteries had died, probably from a lot of use. I also told her if she did a good job, I would give her more than I promised her which put a smile on her face.

I suspected after being shown the vibrator that I had a Nympho on my hands, and I did. She was a stick of dynamite, an Energizer Bunny on steroids who fucked the shit out of me and came three times. And having no kids she was tight as hell and after about twenty minutes I got the Astro-glide out.

What a sight, imagine a little dinky thing on top of you with a little bubble gum butt going up and down on you and sideways with each bun fitting in you hands in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl.

I was totally depleted after an hour and gave her 60 K for such a great performance, this one is a keeper, and I am putting her in the rotation.

So getting back to DEBUNKING my own post, she informs me that she also works Lleras, and Laureles, speaks no English, and is a Fay Book (FB) Chica, so maybe I got my FB cherry popped today as well, but probably not.

I love El Centro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2388895]It is this deodorant cream that was popular back in the 70's. You applied it with your fingertips then everyone would think you had French tips. Or maybe he meant tusi, which is 2CB, a synthetic drug.[/QUOTE]I don't think a Chica would be staying with a guy for twenty four hours for some deodorant cream. Let's wait for him to tell us what he was referring to.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2388901]Probably because you don't see but 4 hoes (if that) at a time walking around the park. And I suspect a good majority of those go there to hustle foreigners. The shit is weird to me. You got a couple thousand or more normal people having a good time hanging at the restaurants and bar hoping, then in the middle if it all you have 2 hoes that keep walking around in circles at the park. I don't think many people go to the center of the main entertainment area to pick hookers out of a park.

Downtown is more of the normal hoe circuit where there are tons of chicks there day in and day out to service locals. The good news is that you don't have to do everything in the same place. You can get your chicks from a different place than you hang out at your fancy restaurants. Being from the EBay you will wonder what the big deal was and why everyone is so scared.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Medellin, about a month ago, there were way more than 4 working chicas walking about Parque Lleras.

I didn't count them up, however, there had to be at least 25, maybe more.

I chatted a few up, though didn't partake with any of them.

There may be some sweet ones, but most now seem to be gringo jaded and spoiled, similar to the Gusto attitude IMO.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;2388867]150 K for 4 hours?? Share your secret mate, maybe it'll help people like me who can't get past 2 HR for 200 k rate. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL! Same with me. I can't get them to stay for more than 2 hours for 150 k+taxi but I had one who would spend whole weekend just for 150 k. I think it all depends on your chemistry and how many customers she gets.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2388940]My last visit to Medellin, about a month ago, there were way more than 4 working chicas walking about Parque Lleras.

I didn't count them up, however, there had to be at least 25, maybe more.
[/QUOTE]Agree with this. I was on there on a Friday and it was easily more than 25 and seemed they were there every corner of the park and streets surrounding it. Though numbers are quite less (around a dozen) on weekdays if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2388901]Probably because you don't see but 4 hoes (if that) at a time walking around the park. And I suspect a good majority of those go there to hustle foreigners.
[/QUOTE]They are not that bad. They rarely bother me inside Gusto or in the park. The worst part about Lleras park is the beggars, band or vendor selling stuff who constantly bothering people for money. It reminded me of Cartagena. Even the beer is about the same price. One night I was sitting in the beer store by the street, and there were various people constantly passing by wanting to get money from me. I suddenly felt El Centro is so peaceful. I don't sit outside that often but that was what I experienced one time.

El Centro and Parque Lleras are night and day difference.

There are endless arguing on this forum about it. Just search "centro" or "Lleras."

For the positives, in El Centro, there are big variety of women walking around botero plaza or behind the church in El Centro, along with a bunch of brothels. Prices start at $30 K pesos for a wham bam + $20 K for love hotel.

Parque Lleras are the "higher class" ladies, and usually try to start around $150 K - 250 K + for 1 HR.

The negatives. People will tell you El Centro has ugly girls and it is dangerous there. And that Lleras only has stuck-up women who charge gringos too much, with bad attitude.

Neither are entirely true, except for the asking prices LOL.

I prefer El Centro personally. But I like the rougher-edge areas, and going in for a real hunt. A bit frugal too jajjajaa.

This is not to start another discussion over the two. Just to help for this question. Search the forums.

Good times will be had by all.

[QUOTE=Darkmanxxx;2388860]Hows it going guys? I am making my first trip to Medellin next month, first time in South America, although I am active in NYC, Caribbean and some spots in Europe (Amsterdam & London).

Spanish is rusty but from what I read here that shouldn't be too much of a problem? What are the best mongering options for Medellin? El Centro or Parque Lleras? Whats the difference as far as quality of chicas and cost?

Much appreciated! I will be sure to report on my return.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2388587][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000381220358&__tn__=%2Cd[/URL]

This chick is nice and speaks good English. I can't say she is a puta because she never charged. But she doesn't have a problem fucking so make her an offer she can't refuse.[/QUOTE]At Medellin Gringo, gracias! Just send her a friend request. I need to learn more Spanish: But not in the next two weeks.

I've been to Centro a few times, and will be exploring around from Nov 22 - Dec 2.

Bunch of other ISG's around during that time.

Feel free to send a message if you want to kick it and go scope out some chicas.

Good times will be had by all jajjjaaa.

Travel365 out!

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2388546]I think there were a couple of girls in Fase Dos.

My advise, for mongering, you really don't need too much Spanish. Take a cheap unlocked smart phone. The likes of BLU etc work fine. After you get into the country, get a SIM card, I got one with claro, for about 5 mil pesos. I then added a data heavy plan. I got 2 gigs, 750 minutes, 750 texts, for 2 weeks, for 20 mil pesos. Load, Google maps, Google translate, WhatsApp, Facebook etc. You are set. I even had dinner conversations fine with Google translate. Don't over think it, just jump in and have fun. If a chicks doesn't work out, move on to the next. There is plenty.[/QUOTE]MMHikeus,

I'm super familiar with SIM cards, google translate, etc, and have done it in Medellin, DR, Thailand, etc. I know how to say all the things I want in Spanish (or could use google translate).

But was hoping to find a lead on someone I could actually talk to, do some TLN and hang out, trip to Guatape, etc. Like long-time GFE if it works out.

Saying "chupa" and "besos" is only so satisfying jajjaaaj.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2388970]They are not that bad. They rarely bother me inside Gusto or in the park. The worst part about Lleras park is the beggars, band or vendor selling stuff who constantly bothering people for money. It reminded me of Cartagena. Even the beer is about the same price. One night I was sitting in the beer store by the street, and there were various people constantly passing by wanting to get money from me. I suddenly felt El Centro is so peaceful. I don't sit outside that often but that was what I experienced one time.[/QUOTE]The thing that gets me are the guys walking around trying to sell hammocks and the hanging rope chairs. Who is going to buy a hammock at 1 am?

I've had a few beggars that pestered me a bit, but not much. There's one kid selling candy that is annoying. Never had an issue with the streetwalkers. They do get a little more forward after midnight. I used to walk through every night between midnight and 2 am and usually spotted 10-15 just on the north side of the park. There's at least that many working the streets south of the park.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2388970]They are not that bad. They rarely bother me inside Gusto or in the park. The worst part about Lleras park is the beggars, band or vendor selling stuff who constantly bothering people for money. It reminded me of Cartagena. Even the beer is about the same price. One night I was sitting in the beer store by the street, and there were various people constantly passing by wanting to get money from me. I suddenly felt El Centro is so peaceful. I don't sit outside that often but that was what I experienced one time.[/QUOTE]As I posted before I was only propositioned by two SWs in Lleras Park, one of them I swear looked about 60 years old. The ones that I did pick up there were mostly just sitting alone and would be making eye contact as I walked by. One Thursday night I had walked up to one who was very cute and had a nice ass, and told her so after confirming that she was working, even she just smiled at me as I would walk by but wasn't pushy. I bought my beer from that beer store next to Juan Valdez 5 Mil for Heineken. One thing I noticed about the SWs that was unlike say the Clock Tower in Cartagena, those chicas in Lleras park did not stay in one spot for a whole lot of time.

I agree that the musicians could be a little annoying, I decided to get them on video so I ask them to play, after they said 50 Mil, I handed them 20 Mil and told them they should have named the price before and not after. The worst I experienced were the little kids who were bumming, those little shits are persistent, I have never been harassed on that level before, with the possible exception of a rug salesman in Istanbul while I was waiting to get into the Hagia Sophia. I would have given the kids in the park some small change but I wondered if they would just keep coming back. I even told them that their being too aggressive about it was why I wasn't giving them anything. They had lied and said they were Venezuelan so I asked an SW nearby and she said no they are Colombians. I even had one approach me while I was buying a beer and point toward the beer case like he wanted me to buy him a beer, he was maybe 13 years old, I looked at him and I looked at a policeman across the street and he chilled, I finally learned that if I walked directly toward a police officer when they were bothering me that they would walk away.

The second strangest thing I encountered in Lleras Park other than a 60 year old looking SW was a homeless gringo, a homeless gringo in Medellin. I do not know what kinds of drugs he was strung out on but what a situation he got himself into. He told me some story about coming to Medellin with some Colombian girl from Miami. But I made my excuse and left before he could finish his story.

Has anyone been with [URL]https://m.facebook.com/marcelamoralesm?tsid=0.24594672895999325&source=result[/URL].

She is exactly my type. Looking to organize a return trip to Colombia and would love to meet someone that looks like her for TLN and / or multiple days.

Background:

I have been to Bogota and Medellin. Meh experiences. Did not find anyone like Marcela. Have cultivated 300+ "FB friends" but have not reached out to anyone yet.

I have posted before under a different handle but had moderator delete my history after wife discovered my online activity.

I tried the casas in centro and strip clubs in Bogota but it was not my scene. In my opinion the Colombianas in Queens NY or Miami FL are way better looking than anyone I fucked in Medellin (except non-pros I salivated over at the Charlee hotel).

I don't mind slumming but rather stay in 5 star hotels. I have never had anyone question me about bringing a puta in since I don't stop and "ask" if I can. I just walk right in and bee-line to the elevator. My last Medellin trip. I vibed with a skinny paisa and we got together after casa closed. She wanted same hourly rate as the casa and called me cheap after I only agreed to 4 hours /200 k? Some fucker told her she could make 1,000's as a stripper in NYC. Why do mother fuckers have to ruin it for everyone else. BTW, these putas talk shit about all the cheap ass american retirees but fuck that. Keep the prices low!

I'm a drinker so my experiences are best with putas that like to drink and / or get high vs god-fearing sober bitches.

Any input will be appreciated. I will pass along any on the ground experiences, review with links any (obvious) FB puta I fuck during my trips AND I Promise not to overpay. Except maybe for Marcela; most I have paid so far is $1,200/ HR a gorgeous French 20 yo at Cavalli club, Dubai. I may top that (for TLN) if Marcela is as hot as her pictures.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2388966]LOL! Same with me. I can't get them to stay for more than 2 hours for 150 k+taxi [/QUOTE]Could you really BEAR to have most of them with you for more than 2 hours?

With few exceptions, none of them would be able to entertain me with any somehow interesting conversation, and I bet this holds for the majority of us.

P.S.: Let me remind this Word of Wisdom: [I]"men do not pay women for sex, but to see them leaving after sex"[/I].

Sitting here at home in Sex Prison while undertaking a water fast I thought with all this free time I would post a experience*I had quite a while back. This event really makes my case of the value of a good Wingman.

I was solo in MDE staying at a hotel in Mayorista. One night while sitting at the tables on the hooker strip with another old time monger I met on this trip I saw two stunners walking toward us. They walked by without a look at us. A few minutes later they walked back, and the best one of the two smiled at me. I immediately offered them to sit with us, and have a drink. A threesome was offered to me for 50 K each. This was with the provision that my friend would go with the one girl, and I would take the other one, and when he was done with her she would join me, and the other girl in my room. This was easy to do as we were both staying in the same hotel, and also on the same floor. In the room I always kept different bottles of booze that I knew Colombian girls liked. So she undressed, and before any action she kept asking me to take a drink. I don't like to drink before sexo as I feel it hurts my performance. She kept asking me to drink, and finally she comes to me with a big kiss. Turns out this kiss gave me a dose of booze. The thing with me is I love to kiss pretty women. A few minutes later she gives me another kiss with another shot in it. After a while of playing around waiting for the other girl she shows up at the room. A strange thing happened that many of you will not believe was as the other girl followed the first one into the bathroom I looked at her, and her face took on a demon look. * So I'm laying back in the bed waiting for them to come out of the bathroom, and the next thing I know I wake up 7 hours later alone in the room. I had hidden the key to the room safe, but they found it. Around $1200 US in cash was gone along with my cell phone. Lucky for me they did not take my passport or debit cards. In my pocket they left me 7 K. Later I asked a local about them leaving me a few pesos, and he said that is a common practice when pros make a good score. First thing I did was check with my friend to see if he was OK, and he was alright. So at this point I am totally dis-guested, and hurt. A day later I was sick for 3 days I think from my resistance* being lowered from the drug they gave me.

*I have many monger friends around the USA. While I was feeling sorry for my self I e- mailed them of what happened to me. All of them must of thought I was in trouble, and they offered to Western Union me cash. My debit cards were ok so I thanked them, and declined their offers.

This horrible experience has stayed with me for quite a while, and I fantasized of the revenge I would take if I ever had the chance. I have finally made my peace with them, and I rest easy now from those negative thoughts.

I post this with the hope that other guys will be very careful dealing with these workers.

Oh man, I am sorry that happened to you. Yeah, as well all know you always have to be on your toes with any of these girls. I have never trusted the Lleras girls. You are just asking for it. I am glad you came out with your health unlike some other mongers. Just goes to tell you. Even experienced mongers can be had by thinking with the little head.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2389136]Sitting here at home in Sex Prison while undertaking a water fast I thought with all this free time I would post a experience*I had quite a while back. This event really makes my case of the value of a good Wingman.

I was solo in MDE staying at a hotel in Mayorista. One night while sitting at the tables on the hooker strip with another old time monger I met on this trip I saw two stunners walking toward us. They walked by without a look at us. A few minutes later they walked back, and the best one of the two smiled at me. I immediately offered them to sit with us, and have a drink. A threesome was offered to me for 50 K each. This was with the provision that my friend would go with the one girl, and I would take the other one, and when he was done with her she would join me, and the other girl in my room. This was easy to do as we were both staying in the same hotel, and also on the same floor. In the room I always kept different bottles of booze that I knew Colombian girls liked. So she undressed, and before any action she kept asking me to take a drink. I don't like to drink before sexo as I feel it hurts my performance. She kept asking me to drink, and finally she comes to me with a big kiss. Turns out this kiss gave me a dose of booze. The thing with me is I love to kiss pretty women. A few minutes later she gives me another kiss with another shot in it. After a while of playing around waiting for the other girl she shows up at the room. A strange thing happened that many of you will not believe was as the other girl followed the first one into the bathroom I looked at her, and her face took on a demon look. * So I'm laying back in the bed waiting for them to come out of the bathroom, and the next thing I know I wake up 7 hours later alone in the room. I had hidden the key to the room safe, but they found it. Around $1200 US in cash was gone along with my cell phone. Lucky for me they did not take my passport or debit cards. In my pocket they left me 7 K. Later I asked a local about them leaving me a few pesos, and he said that is a common practice when pros make a good score. First thing I did was check with my friend to see if he was OK, and he was alright. So at this point I am totally dis-guested, and hurt. A day later I was sick for 3 days I think from my resistance* being lowered from the drug they gave me.

*I have many monger friends around the USA. While I was feeling sorry for my self I e- mailed them of what happened to me. All of them must of thought I was in trouble, and they offered to Western Union me cash. My debit cards were ok so I thanked them, and declined their offers.

This horrible experience has stayed with me for quite a while, and I fantasized of the revenge I would take if I ever had the chance. I have finally made my peace with them, and I rest easy now from those negative thoughts.

I post this with the hope that other guys will be very careful dealing with these workers.[/QUOTE].

Really sorry to read what happened. You wrote that you stayed at a hotel. Did they have copies of their cedulas?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2389136]Sitting here at home in Sex Prison while undertaking a water fast I thought with all this free time I would post a experience*I had quite a while back. This event really makes my case of the value of a good Wingman.

I was solo in MDE staying at a hotel in Mayorista. One night while sitting at the tables on the hooker strip with another old time monger I met on this trip I saw two stunners walking toward us. They walked by without a look at us. A few minutes later they walked back, and the best one of the two smiled at me. I immediately offered them to sit with us, and have a drink. A threesome was offered to me for 50 K each. This was with the provision that my friend would go with the one girl, and I would take the other one, and when he was done with her she would join me, and the other girl in my room. This was easy to do as we were both staying in the same hotel, and also on the same floor. In the room I always kept different bottles of booze that I knew Colombian girls liked. So she undressed, and before any action she kept asking me to take a drink. I don't like to drink before sexo as I feel it hurts my performance. She kept asking me to drink, and finally she comes to me with a big kiss. Turns out this kiss gave me a dose of booze. The thing with me is I love to kiss pretty women. A few minutes later she gives me another kiss with another shot in it. After a while of playing around waiting for the other girl she shows up at the room. A strange thing happened that many of you will not believe was as the other girl followed the first one into the bathroom I looked at her, and her face took on a demon look. * So I'm laying back in the bed waiting for them to come out of the bathroom, and the next thing I know I wake up 7 hours later alone in the room. I had hidden the key to the room safe, but they found it. Around $1200 US in cash was gone along with my cell phone. Lucky for me they did not take my passport or debit cards. In my pocket they left me 7 K. Later I asked a local about them leaving me a few pesos, and he said that is a common practice when pros make a good score. First thing I did was check with my friend to see if he was OK, and he was alright. So at this point I am totally dis-guested, and hurt. A day later I was sick for 3 days I think from my resistance* being lowered from the drug they gave me.

*I have many monger friends around the USA. While I was feeling sorry for my self I e- mailed them of what happened to me. All of them must of thought I was in trouble, and they offered to Western Union me cash. My debit cards were ok so I thanked them, and declined their offers.

This horrible experience has stayed with me for quite a while, and I fantasized of the revenge I would take if I ever had the chance. I have finally made my peace with them, and I rest easy now from those negative thoughts.

I post this with the hope that other guys will be very careful dealing with these workers.[/QUOTE].