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[b]Firedick,[/b]

I agree 100% with what you say, but you know what human nature is like, no matter how good the game we’re always curious about trying something new. Bangkok has the edge over the Philippines but despite the many faults of the Philippines the women are probably the easiest in the world for GFE.

What is the process of marrage in the phil. What is the first step in the process after you get there? How long will the process take?? How long after you have a new bride will it take to get here over to the U.S?

Will it take long to get the papperwork so that you will be able to wed in a 15-18 day trip over? Is the visa to enter the U.S. a long and hard process.

I will be interested in any info from you fellas about my post. All the members here have ben of great help and I do thank you for that.

Play safe.

Whether you marry her there or not the process will take at least 6 to 8 months and cost at least a thousand after application,health,forms etc, not to mention your own costs,,understand this if you do a fiancee visa you must marry in 90 days or she goes back but you sign a form saying you will support her a minimum of 2 years. It is not a quick process and there could be problems.. you must show income , she must show she is single,lots of things.

I'm told it's fairly easy to arrange a civil marriage here, however that makes it more difficult to secure a visa to the US or Europe. I've also be told by friends that the easiest, quickest means is to apply for a fiance visa, but at Marc 25 said, this too is going to entail a lengthy wait with no guarantee of success at the end.

It's getting increasingly difficult to secure any kind of exit visa to the west.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I'm told it's fairly easy to arrange a civil marriage here, however that makes it more difficult to secure a visa to the US or Europe. [/QUOTE]


If Europe is difficult then the UK is even harder, to obtain a visa to come to the country, it is no different for a Philippino national, than a Australian or American national. Most Brits who have been through this process will tell you that you should be prepared for a long wait (two years plus) and many interviews along the way.

Here is a link:

[url]www.ukvisas.gov.uk[/url]

INS form 129-F (fiancee'). Took me just about a year. (Prior to 9-11) Everything added time. My girl had no birth record, so we were starting from scratch.

Keep it simple, stick to girls that already have a Rep. of Philippines passport and you may shave months off the ordeal.

Better yet. Marry her there and leave her there. Or skip the marry part.

Bcarting,

I am assuming that you have a lot of experience with Filapinas, otherwise you would not be considering it. If not, TAKE YOUR TIME.

FD

Can anyone tell me how far from Manila is Laguna and is it north or south of Manila. Thanks for any information . as it is important to know this.
Porty!!

Laguna the province is on the south side of "Laguna de Bay" south of Manila. For an accurate ETA we'd have to know where in Laguna.

FD

[QUOTE=Firedick]Laguna the province is on the south side of "Laguna de Bay" south of Manila. For an accurate ETA we'd have to know where in Laguna.

FD[/QUOTE]San Pedro,Binan,Sta Rosa about 30 minutes,Cabuyao,Calamba,Los Banos,Bay or Alaminos about an hour,San Pablo,Victoria,Pila,Sta Cruz,Pagsanjan,Calauan,Cavinti,Kalayaan,Paete,Liliw,Nagcarlan and any other town about one and a half hours to two hours.This is the driving time for ALL the towns in Laguna from Makati.This should cover all areas

[QUOTE=Candyman2005]I am looking to make a wise investment in the PI, just wondering if any of you have or would invest in the PI. I am not quite sure what area I would invest in (clubs, cell phones, security) but it seems like they are trying very hard to attract more tourist into AC and from what I have seen it may be a good investment move.

What do all of you with wisdom of the PI think?[/QUOTE]

Forget owning a [i]go go bar[/i], an internet café or security company how about starting a themepark /waterpark in Angeles City?

[QUOTE=Juniour]Forget owning a [i]go go bar[/i], an internet café or security company how about starting a themepark /waterpark in Angeles City?[/QUOTE]Not that I am advocating investing in a Water Theme Park,But there is one already one called Fontana inside Clark

Hi all,

This is my first post here, I should first off apologize for my long post; I do have a tendency to be long winded at times. I have been a long time lurker on this great site and I’ve finally decided to step up and start posting. I have personally gained a wealth of information from this site ranging from travel and cultural info to where to find the hot spots and what’s a good price for a bar fine. I want to join this site for intelligent and thoughtful conversation and to share relevant experiences that I’ve had. It is clearly not my intention to flame or be flamed.

Let me introduce myself; my story may or may not be similar to others who post here. I’m 38, never been married and am in decent shape, I haven’t had the best of luck with American women and relationships, but I also don’t consider myself to be a desperate loser either. I started my mongering adventures about five or six years ago as a lonely single guy looking for love in all the wrong places. I’ve gone to many an Asian massage parlor here in the states and have had some great and not so great encounters. One result of these numerous experiences is that I have developed an almost unhealthy attraction to Asian women.

I am a monger by actions for sure, although I believe in treating women with respect, I think that comes from the “nice guy” tendencies that are buried inside me. I prefer passionate encounters that are mutually satisfying. I enjoy giving women passionate physical satisfaction, for me that is truly arousing and erotic. In my view, nothing beats a horned up honey in a state of jubilant ecstasy that has dropped all her inhibitions. In short; I seek the girl friend experience.

Several years ago I turned to the internet and started a quest with the sincere intention of finding a relationship with a foreign woman that could eventually lead to marriage. I made contact with several Filipinas, although it was always on a friendship only basis as I never believed in getting involved in some kind of long distance virtual relationship with someone I have not even met. I decided to get off the fence and take the plunge about a year ago and took my first trip to the Phils last December. I can honestly say that I had the time of my life; I visited Manila, Davao and Boracay.

My first impressions were that of absolute culture shock, I was not prepared for the scenes of abject poverty that I witnessed countless times on my month long stay. My general impression of the Filipino people is that although they are often times very poor, they are rich in spirit, living in adversity but with a smile on their faces.

I have often wrestled with my conscience over my mongering tendencies against my desire to be the “nice guy” that I want to be. Nothing illustrates this better than my first trip to the Phils. On one hand, I went there to meet sweet young Filipinas, on the other hand I wanted to sow some more of my seemingly endless supply of wild oats. Let me say that my mongering side won. Sometimes I visualize myself with little cartoon characters on my shoulder, one the little angel who tells me to be that nice guy, the other shoulder has the little devil who says have some fun and live a little. Needless to say, it’s the devil that often wins the argument!

Literally within hours of landing at Ninoy Aquino Airport I was at the EDSA Center with eyes wide open and tongue hanging out, I was in heaven! I brought home a lovely local named Jenny from a bar called, I believe, My Fair Lady. We actually spent the next 48 hours together, and by that I mean constant companionship like we here joined at the hip, or I should say joined at another appendage! I decided to let her go after a few days as I didn’t want to spend all of my time with just one girl, although in reality I really enjoyed her company and was reluctant to say goodbye.

After we said our farewell I went to a cyber café down the street and before I knew it I was chatting with a little 22 year old babe from Cebu sitting at the computer next to me. Her name was Anna and the next thing I know we were holding hands strolling down Bay Walk along Roxas Blvd. We then stopped at one of the café’s for a drink where she confessed to me that she works at LA café as a bar girl. She comes to Manila a few months out of the year to make some extra cash. To make a long story short, we ended up at my hotel for a good all night romp, the next morning she wanted to stay with me for the day but I didn’t want to get any more involved. She never did ask for any money but I gave her some anyways just to keep things on a “professional” level.

That night I hit a bar called G Spot in Ermita that was practically across the street from the Lotus Garden Hotel where I stayed. I sat at the bar, ordered a San Mig and before I took my third swig there was a Filipina hottie sitting next to me asking my name. Her name was Lorie and as it turns out she works at some bar on Burgos St. I started to think that every girl in this city works as a bar girl! Anyways, the same story; back to my hotel, an all night GFE, wanted to stay with me all day and never asked for money although I gave her some anyways. To this day I’m still not sure if she was a bar girl on her night off looking for a boyfriend or turning a trick on the side.

I decided to call Jenny up, the girl from my first night as I actually missed her. I ended up spending the rest of the week with her. She was more of a girlfriend than a bar girl, I did not pay any bar fines and I actually had an emotional scene on my hands later in the week when I tried to give her money. She was deeply hurt and insulted that I wanted to pay for her company. I’m not sure of the lesson learned here, other than that I believe that there are a certain number of women who work in these bars and they are filled with shame because of it. Maybe the moral is that a little kindness goes a long way with a lot of these women. Keep in mind that this isn’t necessarily a bad thing depending on what you’re looking for.

I flew to Davao on Cebu Pacific and stayed at Casa Leticia for the next two weeks. One of the main reasons I went to Davao was to meet in person a young 20 year old lady who I had been corresponding with for several months before my trip. I had met her, along with several other women, through the Cherry Blossoms website. She was a very sweet girl, a true Filipina gem. She had recently finished school and just started a job working at a call center. I should mention that she was a virgin, she was from a good family that raised her and her sister right. They showed me very generous hospitality; they invited me to dinner and several family outings. However, as nice as she was there lacked a certain chemistry that one cannot know until you have met in person.

I also met some other “normal girls” in Davao, most of who were virgins; I went from one extreme to the next, either bar girls or virgins! Interestingly enough they all seemed to think that I was a great guy full of morals and decency. I couldn’t help but think that these particular women could do better than a guy like me. Don’t get me wrong, It’s not that I’m putting these women on too high a pedestal or put myself too low in the gutter, it’s just that it bothered me is that I wasn’t being totally honest with them. For if they truly knew of my mongering tendencies they would probably not want to have a thing to do with me. In a certain irony, I am more honest with the bargirls than with these sweet things. Let me say that I have no intention of deflowering any of these women. I respect their choices and do not want to change them. One thing I did learn from this experience was to avoid virgins in the future as I am not compatible with them for anything more than friendship.

For the last week of my trip I decided to splurge and go to Boracay for a few days, I took Jenny from Manila and had a great time. I still talk with her to this day and I genuinely care about her well being. I have sent her some money from time to time, not much. For the record she has never once asked for it.

In conclusion, I actually have the desire to live in the Philippines. I think it would be great to get the mongering out of my system so I can think straight! After a month there of fucking myself silly, I had an entirely new perspective on just about everything; including myself, a greater understanding of women and of the human condition in general. I have come to admire the Filipino spirit and truly would like to find a good woman to marry someday. I can think of no better way than to live there full time so I could not only pursue women on a full time basis, but also try and understand the life and culture there as well. I actually envy some posters here that have found a way to have a successful career in a third world country.

I will be traveling for my second trip to the Phils this upcoming November and December; my tentative stops will be in Manila, Angeles, Cebu and Davao. If any of you expats, mongers, conversationalists or adventurers want to meet up for a drink or two and perhaps and evening of debauchery, then the first round is on me!

Cheers,

Sagramore

Perhaps start a new bus service Manila - AC for foreign visitors. Fly-the-Bus has monopolized the route with buses that can only be called junk. The buses are very old discarded Japanese used vehicles and I am sure not safe. Many people have experienced breakdowns in transit, including myself. Have more pick-up points and have very very friendly beautiful stewardesses on the new bus service with a private partitioned area at the back!

Hi Sagramore,

Welcome to the board and great job on your first post, much better than I have ever attempted. I always get to caught up in the action while there to report much. Plus I put a big value on pictures that I try to post when I can.

I've also been on the Asian Massage Table on more than one occasion in the USA, although it has been some years since I have. I live close to Greensboro, NC and there used to be a large number of Asian Massage Parlors there, but at last the crooks...I mean cops caught up to them and closed them all down a few years ago. We used to travel 90 minutes each way on some Friday nights just to have some fun there. The reason I bring this up is that these massage parlors were almost exclusively Korean woman which I found much more willing to please than other Asian women. I also have found more luck with Korean women in strip clubs as well, when jabbering with them and getting them to leave the bar for outside entertainment.

However I found that Filipina's in the USA were very difficult to deal with when compared to other Asian women, but when you travel to their home countries I found that it was the exact opposite. In Korea it was not near as nice as the Philippines nor in China.. Just some observations on my part.

For your semi-girlfriend who became somewhat upset at you paying her, I have had the same problem in the past. What I learned to do was wait, but stay in touch with the girl if I really like her. At some point she will need some money and will make the need known to you. Then I will send them some money or if I am in the Philippines still I will arrange another meeting where I can help her out. The difference is very important to them at times. Of course this is not always possible and you may not want to stay in touch. In this case I take her shopping or try to slip some money in their pockets or purse if they have one. I almost always receive a text thank you later when I slip them some money.

Enjoy and take it from semi-long term monger. I don't think I will ever get it out of my system and I also want to marry I nice Filipina one day and have a family. It is so readily available when there. I guess I have no will power. Ah, what to do what do to?

FF

Hi FF,

Thanks for the reply and kind words.

I too have found an overwhelming majority of women in stateside AMPs are Korean and will definitely go the extra mile if you get the right one. I live in Michigan now where the pickin’s can be pretty slim, although I’ve found a few good ones where they know me by name. I used to live out in Los Angeles and had some great times with both Hispanic and Asian masseuses. Although it seems more and more wherever you go the LE has taken it upon themselves to protect the helpless public from the dangers that lie behind closed doors in private establishments.

As to the lack of will power when it comes to some mongering action, I’m willing to bet that you and I aren’t the only ones on this board with that problem!

Cheers!

Sagramore