What Country has the Best Women for STR?

[QUOTE=Castonthis]Well I planned on staying mostly at hostels NEVER any hotels. And most hostels cost like 18e for a night. I don't know, I have stayed in hostels before in Europe and I spent 1500e and that was in W.Europe. From what I thought I thought Eastern Europe is generally cheaper then W.Europe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Castonthis]...which nations are good easiest to have short flings without having to pay for it?[/QUOTE]

Well, if you are staying at hostels, I don't see how you can get freebie sex. I mean where are you going to do it? Invite the girl back to your elegant hostel to perform in front of your roommates?

Also not having a hotel or apartment limits you to salons and pros who work out of apartments. Semi-pros usually count on you providing the place.

So you pay one way or the other. Either you pay for a decend place to stay, or you pay more for your pleasure (or at least limit your options).

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Well, if you are staying at hostels, I don't see how you can get freebie sex. I mean where are you going to do it? Invite the girl back to your elegant hostel to perform in front of your roommates?

Also not having a hotel or apartment limits you to salons and pros who work out of apartments. Semi-pros usually count on you providing the place.

So you pay one way or the other. Either you pay for a decend place to stay, or you pay more for your pleasure (or at least limit your options).[/QUOTE]

In defense of Hostels I have used in Europe. I have shared a room maybe twice? I was often in two person room alone or with just one other person. It would be very easy to deal with that if both parties understood what the other was doing and when. In fact if I had been rooming with my boy Dave, he was a bigger pervert than I'll ever be and not that's because he's a voyeur its more likely he would be out getting "his" if I came back to the hostel to get "mine".

My concern wasn't so much being in a hostel, but taking a girl back to the hostel to bang. Not like that is unusual at all, after all we're talking about 20somethings mostly.

Hi everyone,

I am obviously new to these forums. But hopefully someone here can answer these questions or point me to a resource.

I am an American currently in Bulgaria. I have one month left on my holiday and I could go basically anywhere in Europe.

What I would like to do is film some POV videos of me with some girls and *perhaps* put them online.

I don't know anything about the porn industry, but I've seen a lot of reality-type sites that are filmed in Europe. Public Invasion is a good example. It's made to look like it's just a random girl he meets on the street, but besides that context, I am extremely curious as to how these guys for real meet such girls. All context aside, all money aside, it's still a guy fucking really hot girls. Bottom line, at the end of the day, that's exactly how I want to spend my time. So my questions are these:

1. How are guys *for real* prospecting and getting girls for 'reality' porn?

2. What, legally, do I need to do *just in case* I want to put these videos online?

3. Finally, where should I go to get the most bang for my buck? Where are the hottest Euro girls that want to suck and fuck on camera for the least money in return?

Hey guys,

I'd like to get more involved in the forums :) This is my first post.

I have a 2 week holiday coming up and I was wondering where do you guys feel the cheapest mongering destinations are? I realise that cheapest doesn't necessarily mean best, but I was in Thailand last year and loved both the standard and the prices. I am more into the massage/streetwalker scene than the nightclub/bar scene personally.

When compared to Thailand, how do places like Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Germany and any other noteworthy places fare? I don't mind spending money getting to the country, but I'd hopefully be looking for someplace that has a cheaper standard of living and reasonably priced mongering - much like I experienced in Thailand!

Thanks guys,

Jason M

ps, thailand was also good because when not mongering there were AMAZING beaches and fun activities to get up to.

[QUOTE=Jason Mak]
I have a 2 week holiday coming up and I was wondering where do you guys feel the cheapest mongering destinations are? I realise that cheapest doesn't necessarily mean best, but I was in Thailand last year and loved both the standard and the prices. [/QUOTE]

Nothing in the world comes close to Thailand.

2. Philippines
3. Cambodia
4. Indonesia

[QUOTE=Jason Mak]
When compared to Thailand, how do places like Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica [/QUOTE]

- They are far far more expensive than TH
- There are safety issues (not possible to walk arround at night in Brazil)
- You need to speak Spanish or Portuguese (nobody speaks any English)

[QUOTE=Jason Mak]
I don't mind spending money getting to the country, but I'd hopefully be looking for someplace that has a cheaper standard of living and reasonably priced mongering - much like I experienced in Thailand![/QUOTE]

Germany is out, as it is more expensive than the US for living. Mongering is pretty cheap.

There is nothing outside of South East Asia that meets your requirements.

Argentina is not "far more expensive" than Thailand. Food is a bit more expensive and hotels are more expensive in Buenos Aires, but not so much elsewhere in the country. The cost of pussy and beer is remarkably similar between the two countries.

Thailand and the Philippines are both amazing. If I am going to either country I can get online and by the end of the week have a list 100 names long of gorgeous young girls who are ready to fuck me. Or I can just go and stand around at a bar or walk on the street or something and women will come up to me (not just prostitutes). It is ludicrously easy both places.

Women from both countries are beautiful and petite. Thais tend to have bigger tits. I think Thai girls are less conservative and more up for casual sex overall, but Filipina girls are so naive, trusting, and loving that getting them into bed is about as easy as it could possibly be. Thai girls are usually better in bed. It's typically easier to pick up very young girls in the Philippines and there is no strong social taboo against much older men dating very very young girls there. There isn't any strong taboo in Thailand against the same, either. Filipina girls are more loyal in my experience. But they also tend to react worse if you don't want to stay with them after the one-night stand or week-long fling. Anyway. It's a close call. All of the above generalizations are of course riddled with many exceptions.

[quote=savage grape]hi everyone,

i am obviously new to these forums. but hopefully someone here can answer these questions or point me to a resource.

i am an american currently in bulgaria. i have one month left on my holiday and i could go basically anywhere in europe.

what i would like to do is film some pov videos of me with some girls and *perhaps* put them online.

i don't know anything about the porn industry, but i've seen a lot of reality-type sites that are filmed in europe. public invasion is a good example. it's made to look like it's just a random girl he meets on the street, but besides that context, i am extremely curious as to how these guys for real meet such girls. all context aside, all money aside, it's still a guy fucking really hot girls. bottom line, at the end of the day, that's exactly how i want to spend my time. so my questions are these:

1. how are guys *for real* prospecting and getting girls for 'reality' porn?

2. what, legally, do i need to do *just in case* i want to put these videos online?

3. finally, where should i go to get the most bang for my buck? where are the hottest euro girls that want to suck and fuck on camera for the least money in return?[/quote]reality porn sites are all fake.

i mean, of course, the girls on these sites are real girls. and they're really getting fucked by some guy. but those sites where they meet a girl at random on the street. or pick them up in a bus and talk them into having sex. or pretend they are casting them for porn but really just fuck them and post the video. etc. those are all complete bullshit.

that said, it's very easy to meet girls in poorer countries willing to fuck on camera for money. eastern europe, se asia and latin america are popular spots for amateur pornographers for this reason. and of course if you start up a business like this it's very possible to meet a girl at random somewhere, start a conversation, and talk them into fucking on camera.

if it's just you and a camera, you could probably get girls to do this for free, or 50 bucks or something like that.

real professional operations with decent sites pay more than that. maybe $300-$800 in poor countries like those i mentioned for a 4-6 hour session which is normal. if you pay like this (which is great money for those countries), and are professional and courteous in your dealings with the girls, it won't be hard to find more. they will tell their friends and word will get around. many of the girls who do this for a living are represented through various agencies, or work for clubs, or moonlight as escorts on the side, and you can find these girls on the internet.

if you want to make decent videos you'll also need a good camera with a good lens and some professional lighting equipment, or nobody is going to want to watch (much less pay for) your videos.

most common countries to cull girls from for work in porn in eastern europe are czech republic, slovakia, and to a lesser extent romania, poland, belarus, ukraine, moldova. but you could probably go pretty much anywhere. some countries it will be harder to find girls but it might be cheaper overall if nobody else is working there.

in western europe it will be more expensive to work there but denmark and the netherlands are also big centers of pornography production.

to avoid getting in legal trouble you need to research the laws in the country you are working in, make sure your models are over 18 and take photos and video of them with their id. that's just a start. if you actually make a website you need to do a lot more to really protect yourself. talk to a lawyer.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname]
If you want to make decent videos you'll also need a good camera with a good lens and some professional lighting equipment, or nobody is going to want to watch (much less pay for) your videos.

Most common countries to cull girls from for work in porn in Eastern Europe are Czech Republic, Slovakia, and to a lesser extent Romania, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova. But you could probably go pretty much anywhere. Some countries it will be harder to find girls but it might be cheaper overall if nobody else is working there.[/QUOTE]
St. Petersburg seems to be a good centre for this - semi-pro porn filmed cheaply.
There was a really good series of posts by Shelbysbaker about 2 years ago.
Search the St. P thread for "mixphoto" or "mixfoto" which was the agency he used. From what I recall, the whole things seemed amazingly cheap.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]Argentina is not "far more expensive" than Thailand. Food is a bit more expensive and hotels are more expensive in Buenos Aires, but not so much elsewhere in the country. The cost of pussy and beer is remarkably similar between the two countries.[/QUOTE]

Is that a joke??

How much for a LT in Argentina? US$ 300 or something??

[QUOTE=Jason Mak]
Thanks guys,

Jason M

ps, thailand was also good because when not mongering there were AMAZING beaches and fun activities to get up to.[/QUOTE]

Thaliland is your best bet for sure.

IMHO Argentina is your next alternative (after SE Asia) but with no beaches there with lots of night life though especially for the younger ones.

Paraguay is a cheap destination with nice looking gals but you'll get bored within a week or less. Brasil, Colombia and Peru come next. Africa if you like the real dark ones.

In Argentina try to book an apartment instead of hotel. It comes much cheaper.

I calculate the cost per session when travelling as being

(((airfare/days there)+(daily hotel price))/number of sessions per day) + session price

If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.

What is your cheapest session cost including travel?

China is added to those on my list. Been to many great places with great massage and FS with 8~10s for a good price (Hangzhou is strongly recommended).

[QUOTE=Bigcebu]Nothing in the world comes close to Thailand.

2. Philippines
3. Cambodia
4. Indonesia[/quote]

[QUOTE=John Dough]I calculate the cost per session when travelling as being

(((airfare/days there)+(daily hotel price))/number of sessions per day) + session price

If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.

What is your cheapest session cost including travel?[/QUOTE]

Travel Cost - $28 RT from Los Angeles to TJ (Add $2.50 for door to broader and back again)

Hotel Stay, I live here, I don't even pay rent - $Free

Session, Street Girl $25, Alternative $20+$5 for room but in local currency, so about $30US total.

Over all cost for sessions in TJ, Mexico - $78

[QUOTE=Bigcebu]There is nothing outside of South East Asia that meets your requirements.[/QUOTE]Accra, Nairobi, Mombasa meet your requirements, and are the sine qua non of the darker-berry hobby.