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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2486597] While on the one hand with the exception of an oddball handful with Elecltra complexes younger women naturally prefer the company of younger men yet when it comes to older guys in their late 60's and 70's who they are with for the money they will often admit to having a more satisfying sexual experience with these old codgers.[/QUOTE]Hey,

You are no longer invisible!

Of course, most young girls prefer the company of young men their own age and men up to 10 years older as the culture dictates. When I was in my 20's I was never asked to pay for sex with a hooker except in the USA. 555, and I refused their offers. But Argentinian, Brazilian, Caribbean, Chilean, Colombian, Costa Rican, and Venezuelan hookers all did me for free. And back then I could fuck all night without stopping. So yeah, I had a lot of fun travelling around SA back in the day on $5/ day.

Now I am in my 60's and I P4P in SE Asia. Money is not an issue. The hooker girls I am with now are benefiting from my years of sexual experience and wisdom. I can't fuck 6 times in a row anymore, ha ha, nevertheless I honestly think I am better at sex than I was at 20 or 25 because I now know how to turn a girl on and I am really into doing it. I am not saying the girls I fuck prefer me over someone their own age. That would be a very foolish notion, but I am saying that in the confines of my hotel room, one on one, just between us, a lot of my girls have orgasms, so it's a win win as far as everybody is concerned: they get paid good money plus they have a pretty good time in bed. But, don't tell their boyfriends. It is just between us.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2486825]Hey,

You are no longer invisible!.[/QUOTE]Aw shucks.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2486825], but I am saying that in the confines of my hotel room, one on one, just between us, a lot of my girls have orgasms, [/QUOTE]In Porn movies the girls even enjoy anal and have orgasms. I know of a girl in Germany that came five times during a session. Unfortunately not mine. Pffffffffffff.

[QUOTE=SpringChicken;2486801]Anyone have experience with [URL]offdek.com[/URL]? Seems too good to be true? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I don't have any experience with that particular website but those are totally normal prices for online freelancers in the Thai scene. This is why I've been saying go-go bar prices are just totally ridiculous, 4000+ baht an hour total cost for girls whose true value is about 1500.

[QUOTE=SpringChicken;2486801]Anyone have experience with [URL]offdek.com[/URL]? Seems too good to be true? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Either I am getting too cynical, Friday night in Pattaya has done my feeble brain in (it usually does) or a first time poster enquiring about a website never referenced on the forum before has some ulterior motive?

Answers on a postcard please to clickbait, care of feeble minded (on Friday nights) cynic, Pattaya, Chonburi, Thailand, 20150.

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[QUOTE==*****man;2487104]I don't have any experience with that particular website but those are totally normal prices for online freelancers in the Thai scene. This is why I've been saying go-go bar prices are just totally ridiculous, 4000+ baht an hour total cost for girls whose true value is about 1500.[/QUOTE]Thank you. It seems similar to another site that is mentioned few times in this thread called finfin. Vip.

I am suspicious of some of the reviews (both sites have this feature) but I messaged two providers and they were responsive with good English.

The funny thing is even 1500 THB is not cheap compared to Germany.

[QUOTE=SpringChicken;2486801]Anyone have experience with [URL]offdek.com[/URL]? Seems too good to be true? Thank you.[/QUOTE]From just a small sample of 3 girls on that site whose Line IDs I clicked on and got a reply:

- 500 baht surcharge for "non Thai customer," presumably meaning Caucasians, because "too big."

- 500 baht extra for outcall. Otherwise, in these cases at least, I was told I could go to a hotel just north of Chatuchak mrt/Mo Chit bts stations by taxi.

- Condom condom condom. "No condom no sex."

- No DFK. "Don't like."

- 500 baht surcharge for BBBJ+CIM. I know that contradicts what a couple of their profiles appear to be saying according to the clumsy translation of the Thai text, but that is what I was told by each of these three.

- 500 baht transfered in advance, no refund if you cancel or change an appointment. Apparently that is an Offdek rule and requirement since I think that is who gets the transfer. Not sure about that.

- In all three cases, the exchanges on those topics were initiated by the girl and seemed VERY hardcore hookerish and not at all like the image of otherwise innocent, unspoiled (by Farang customers) part time freelance Thai girls pressured by circumstances to trade sex for money some might imagine.

Again, it was only a small sampling of 3 girls. As always, Your Mileage May Vary.

Personally, I'd rather keep the 3,000 baht it would ultimately cost me to get a simple BBBJ+CIM in my room for a Short Time with any of those 20-22 year old hardened pros and take one of my sweet 22-23 year old regulars I met on ThaiCupid, ThaiFriendly or Tinder to dinner and get everything I want all night and the next morning for little more than 70% of that cost and most definitely 100% more fun and fulfilling pleasure. Or meet a new one on those sites or just around town for the same.

I am not knocking Offdek as a potentially rewarding source. I will probably try it with other girls again when I have some free time. Why not? There is no charge to browse and click around.

I have myself try to contact 2 girls. The first one read my message but didn't reply anything. The se ond one has been quite easy to chat with, English seems limited, but she did the effort (as I did to send simple sentences). She gave me the name of her hotel, confirmed BBBJ without mentioning any surcharge, and didn't seems to ask for any pre transfer. I didn't meet her yet, but might go very soon. I believe it depends a lot of the girl, and maybe also the location, maybe if they are in area empty of foreigner, they would less welcome us, for example the first one is in Rama 2 and second one that I chat with is in udom suk.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2487847]From just a small sample of 3 girls on that site whose Line IDs I clicked on and got a reply:

- 500 baht surcharge for "non Thai customer," presumably meaning Caucasians, because "too big."

- 500 baht extra for outcall. Otherwise, in these cases at least, I was told I could go to a hotel just north of Chatuchak mrt/Mo Chit bts stations by taxi.

- Condom condom condom. "No condom no sex."

- No DFK. "Don't like."

- 500 baht surcharge for BBBJ+CIM. I know that contradicts what a couple of their profiles appear to be saying according to the clumsy translation of the Thai text, but that is what I was told by each of these three.

- 500 baht transfered in advance, no refund if you cancel or change an appointment. Apparently that is an Offdek rule and requirement since I think that is who gets the transfer. Not sure about that..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MadMax33;2487878]I have myself try to contact 2 girls. The first one read my message but didn't reply anything. The se ond one has been quite easy to chat with, English seems limited, but she did the effort (as I did to send simple sentences). She gave me the name of her hotel, confirmed BBBJ without mentioning any surcharge, and didn't seems to ask for any pre transfer. I didn't meet her yet, but might go very soon. I believe it depends a lot of the girl, and maybe also the location, maybe if they are in area empty of foreigner, they would less welcome us, for example the first one is in Rama 2 and second one that I chat with is in udom suk.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your followup report if you choose to post one.

Mine did not mention a surcharge for BBBJ, just for the CIM finish option. And, yes, it appears many profiles on the site mention an upfront transfer, but not all. I saw the required upfront transfer mentioned in a couple of customer reviews as well. Presumably from Thai customers.

Maybe that can be seen as a flag for potentially less than satisfactory service with Offdek as it can in other options; if the girl demands money upfront, buyer beware, you probably just paid for her to start focusing on something else, anything other than your pleasure.

Hey y'all,

Its been a few years since I've been back to Bangkok. Most recently AC & Pattaya.

For those of you that have been fortunate enough to continue this way of life. Have you found better results in gogos, online, thermae, soapies, etc?

With this new landscape due to Covid, it seems the results have been a bit scattered.

In previous trips, I've been accustomed to sticking to gogos & soapies for the most part. Specifically Rainbow Gogos & Bacarra.

But considering the current situation, I'm thinking I'd need to widen my playing field to fully take advantage.

Also, are going rates still 3 k ST, 5 k LT? Not incl. BF?

Idk Covid has really thrown me off my rhythm. That or its the whisky I'm getting shitfaced on right now LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2488144]Looking forward to your followup report if you choose to post one.

Mine did not mention a surcharge for BBBJ, just for the CIM finish option. And, yes, it appears many profiles on the site mention an upfront transfer, but not all. I saw the required upfront transfer mentioned in a couple of customer reviews as well. Presumably from Thai customers.

Maybe that can be seen as a flag for potentially less than satisfactory service with Offdek as it can in other options; if the girl demands money upfront, buyer beware, you probably just paid for her to start focusing on something else, anything other than your pleasure.[/QUOTE]One good development is that a lot of girls are offering CIM or COF for a 300 baht surcharge. No need to get involved in a big negotiation because if they offer that it will be there in the advert. It's quite difficult to get a girl to agree to COF in most western-oriented places so it's good to have it upfront like that and the price seems fair.

Most of these women are milfs though posting heavily photoshopped or filtered pictures. I'm not sure they're much of an upgrade on what you can find in the oilies for a similar price. Here's a rare unphotoshopped body pic:

[URL]https://offdek.com/sideline/gm5MenNlk[/URL]

And this is a "Top Star" girl.

[QUOTE=*****man;2488239]I'm not sure they're much of an upgrade on what you can find in the oilies for a similar price. Here's a rare unphotoshopped body pic:

[URL]https://offdek.com/sideline/gm5MenNlk[/URL]

And this is a "Top Star" girl.[/QUOTE]My thoughts as well. I see some attractive girls on offdek and finfin, but nothing so amazing that I can't find it in my usual venues. Still I am glad these sites exist. The more sources the merrier and I intend to try both sites just for the experience and variety when I return to LOS. Call me "old school" if you want, but IMHO virtual internet sourcing will never be as good as reality sourcing ie finding a girl in a bar, massage parlor, or on the street. I would think that virtual sourcing is actually more time consuming and comes with a much higher risk rate of failure. The hit ratio can never be as good as physical reality based sourcing where there is the opportunity to talk to the girl, see her in her own environment, and appraise her attributes all without committing or in the bar situation for only the cost of drink or two. Besides, it is more fun to go out and find a girl compared to waiting around in an apartment or hotel room for a girl you have never met. It might see it a little differently if the internet girls were significantly better looking than the brick and mortar types, ha ha, but they are not, so what's the point?

[QUOTE=*****man;2488239]Most of these women are milfs though posting heavily photoshopped or filtered pictures. I'm not sure they're much of an upgrade on what you can find in the oilies for a similar price. Here's a rare unphotoshopped body pic:

[URL]https://offdek.com/sideline/gm5MenNlk[/URL]

And this is a "Top Star" girl.[/QUOTE]I agree. Also, although many of the poses and levels of undress are a bit sexier than what you generally see on ThaiFriendly, the overall look of most of the Offdek girls [I]as depicted[/I] in their photos and allowing for photo-shopping or doctoring of the photos, is not dramatically better than what can be found on ThaiFriendly or Tinder, imo. I would expect to see the same 5 years older and 4 kilos heavier girl than she appeared in her photos when the door swings open as we do with ThaiFriendly girls. Not necessarily a deal killer. But there is no reason for me to think the pics on Offdek are any more accurate than other sites.

Still, I am fine with things being spelled out upfront and appreciated that from the girls I have Line chatted with so far even though none of their terms were acceptable to me this time around. That is, IF I was actually chatting with each of those girls and not to some Offdek phone rep or mamasan making all the decisions for them. None of my three Top Stars would agree to video chat for a moment "just to say Hello." So anything is possible.