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[QUOTE=GinAndTonic555;2493149]In Nana gogos such as rainbow 4,random, twister etc since covid I've been getting girls for that 2kST 4 kLT range. They usually start at 3k ST or 5 kLT but quickly go down in price. I also always ask BBFS up front and I'd say 90% or so agree without batting a eye some are hesitant and I just tell them I cum outside seems to do the trick. I haven't barfined from butterflies or billboard as for whatever reason the hot girls at these gogos feel they are worth 3k ST 6 kLT and / or don't want to go BB.[/QUOTE]That's another good reason to avoid Butterflies and Billboard. I saw two or three girls worth 2 k for short time in Butterflies but none worth 3 k + 700 bar fine + 250? Lady drink + tinnitus. I think these two bars are just a classic case of people swallowing marketing hype. I also saw two or three equally nice girls in Twister BKK and will check out this Random place.

[QUOTE=*****man;2493272]That's another good reason to avoid Butterflies and Billboard. I saw two or three girls worth 2 k for short time in Butterflies but none worth 3 k + 700 bar fine + 250? Lady drink + tinnitus. I think these two bars are just a classic case of people swallowing marketing hype. I also saw two or three equally nice girls in Twister BKK and will check out this Random place.[/QUOTE]I always hear people on other forums say how billboard is the best gogo in BKK. I rarely see any youthful girls there. It's mostly the same girls now for many years. Then they expect really expensive prices. I think the owner of these gogos has done a really good job hyping his product online through forums and stickmans website to make people believe he has a superior product to other places.

Butterflies I think has a better lineup then billboard I still think it can't compete with Rainbow4,5 and twister even. Random has some nice talent but it is a smaller gogo but IME you can always find a couple real hot girls in there.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2492853]For the hell of it and to test this "the go-go girls are giving more now" theory I'd read about, I called her down for an LD. She tried to pull the "tequila and coke" scam on me. LOL. She also said absolutely No to Real Sex OR BBBJ+CIM with me with 2,500 baht to her sort of hanging in the air.[/QUOTE]Is it some way of charging you for two drinks when they only get one?

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2493384]Is it some way of charging you for two drinks when they only get one?[/QUOTE]No, they will get 2 drinks and you will be charged for 2 drinks. The scam comes in when the girl either asks you to "buy me drink?" or you offer to buy her a drink and she says, "tequila and coke, ok?" in a way that sounds like it is a single drink, a cocktail, some weird alternative to rum and coke or Jack and coke.

You say "Ok" to whatever this strange cocktail is she likes and you have just given her permission to get two Ladydrinks in one go; a tequila shot and a small glass of coke, about 175 baht each in some bars, if not more since they are Ladyrinks for her.

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic555;2493149]In Nana gogos such as rainbow 4,random, twister etc since covid I've been getting girls for that 2kST 4 kLT range. They usually start at 3k ST or 5 kLT but quickly go down in price. I also always ask BBFS up front and I'd say 90% or so agree without batting a eye some are hesitant and I just tell them I cum outside seems to do the trick. I haven't barfined from butterflies or billboard as for whatever reason the hot girls at these gogos feel they are worth 3k ST 6 kLT and / or don't want to go BB.[/QUOTE]I applaud your effort to provide reasonable transparency, attempt no intimidation or manipulation, no game where you tie up the girl's time out of the bar in order to corner her into agreeing to something that an hour or more later she might feel a No response to could get her put out with less or no money and admirable consideration for her feelings on the issue of BBFS by asking for it upfront.

And your doing so also contributes to improving the Thai P4P scene all around, imo.

Thank you for that.

[QUOTE==*****man;2492638]On the basis of these and other recommendations...[/QUOTE]It's unfortunate that your experience wasn't as expected.

I would agree that the music can be loud. Every time I go, I'm usually forced to always have to position my head closer to the girl to sometimes hear what is being said during conversations.

I do still stand by my recommendation that Nana is the place to go for gogos nowadays. And I personally think Rainbow 4 has the best girl lineup overall. Of course, attractive qualities are subjective so what may be attractive for me might not be the same for the next guy. In addition, I would say that the weekends (Fri / Sat) are your best times to see optimal lineups as a lot of the top-tier girls don't show up during the weekdays; especially Mon / Tues / Wed. I went to Rainbow 4 one time on a Tuesday and was totally surprised and disappointed (like you) by the lineup. But as I figured it out, the optimal lineups are on the weekends. If the time you went was on a weekday, then maybe give it another try on the weekend (Fri / Sat).

Of course, an attractive lineup probably wouldn't matter for you if you're still not able to get past the loud gogo music atmosphere.

In any case, good luck! And happy hunting!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2493412]I applaud your effort to provide reasonable transparency, attempt no intimidation or manipulation, no game where you tie up the girl's time out of the bar in order to corner her into agreeing to something that an hour or more later she might feel a No response to could get her put out with less or no money and admirable consideration for her feelings on the issue of BBFS by asking for it upfront.

And your doing so also contributes to improving the Thai P4P scene all around, imo.

Thank you for that.[/QUOTE]I think today, BBFS becomes a standard thing everywhere in Bangkok pattaya or phuket. Girls don't care anymore. Most of the men don't use condoms anymore and girls even don't ask now.

Just girls ask to come outside pussy. Some men respect, some don't!

For what its worth, at least pre-covid, I have to agree Rainbow 4 is the best overall, as I've said previously on the sub. It doesn't mean you'll find your girl there, but across the board they tend to have the best lineup, though its clear they cater a bit more to the Japanese look and taste than other gogos. Its not a bad thing to start the night at Rainbow 4 to see what's happening there, then explore afterwards.

Billboard and butterflies are probably next, billboard club vibe is meh, but they have an enormous lineup of girls, butterflies has a smaller lineup, but most are good quality. Angelwitch is probably next in line here and there are gems to see there but its less consistent and smaller, but angelwitch is usually a more fun spot to be because they aren't blasting terrible club dance music, its mostly rock.

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic555;2493381]I always hear people on other forums say how billboard is the best gogo in BKK. I rarely see any youthful girls there. It's mostly the same girls now for many years. Then they expect really expensive prices. I think the owner of these gogos has done a really good job hyping his product online through forums and stickmans website to make people believe he has a superior product to other places.

Butterflies I think has a better lineup then billboard I still think it can't compete with Rainbow4,5 and twister even. Random has some nice talent but it is a smaller gogo but IME you can always find a couple real hot girls in there.[/QUOTE]I have never heard of Random, is it new?

I read a lot of Nana bars closed, is Random a LB bar?

[QUOTE=CockaSaurus;2493616]I have never heard of Random, is it new?

I read a lot of Nana bars closed, is Random a LB bar?[/QUOTE]Random used to be where a ladyboy bar was its a new one. I can't remember the name of the LB bar but its right by the stairs on the 2nd floor right when you go up. I thought it was going to be a LB bar esp with the name "random" like is it a girl or a LB seems like a bad name haha. Its for sure 100% ladies.

A lot of the girls used to work in rainbow and other bars in the plaza. Talent as of a couple weeks ago was really good.

[QUOTE=CockaSaurus;2493616]I have never heard of Random, is it new?

I read a lot of Nana bars closed, is Random a LB bar?[/QUOTE]GinAndTonic and others can correct me if I am wrong but Random go-go bar, located on the second level at the top of the steps on the left as you enter Nana Plaza, used to be Rainbow 3. It is not a LB bar but it might be mixed, not sure. I don't remember seeing a LB on stage the 1 time I stopped in for a drink several weeks back.

That bar was where a kind of cute but too heavily tattooed for my usual preference blonde-ish girl I bought a Ladydrink for was climbing all over me, Deep French Kissing me in the bar like True Love but, when I asked upfront, refused to accept bareback with me because "I am afraid of Corona."

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2493707]GinAndTonic and others can correct me if I am wrong but Random go-go bar, located on the second level at the top of the steps on the left as you enter Nana Plaza, used to be Rainbow 3. It is not a LB bar but it might be mixed, not sure. I don't remember seeing a LB on stage the 1 time I stopped in for a drink several weeks back.

That bar was where a kind of cute but too heavily tattooed for my usual preference blonde-ish girl I bought a Ladydrink for was climbing all over me, Deep French Kissing me in the bar like True Love but, when I asked upfront, refused to accept bareback with me because "I am afraid of Corona."[/QUOTE]That was the Thai way of telling you to cover or put a mask on your other head face. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2493707]GinAndTonic and others can correct me if I am wrong but Random go-go bar, located on the second level at the top of the steps on the left as you enter Nana Plaza, used to be Rainbow 3. It is not a LB bar but it might be mixed, not sure. I don't remember seeing a LB on stage the 1 time I stopped in for a drink several weeks back.

That bar was where a kind of cute but too heavily tattooed for my usual preference blonde-ish girl I bought a Ladydrink for was climbing all over me, Deep French Kissing me in the bar like True Love but, when I asked upfront, refused to accept bareback with me because "I am afraid of Corona."[/QUOTE]You know thinking about it now you're correct that bar used to be rainbow 3. Right next door is the lb bar I'm not sure if the lb one is even open. I actually think the bar maybe part of rainbow group as many girls from that group are working there.

I'm pretty sure its all women inside. Actually my first night there I was kind of concerned of the bar was mixed or not. Like I states the name random is such a bad name haha.

Off topic but story from a couple months ago that's somewhat interesting. I'm in rainbow 4 basically not finding the any girls ok with LT as I was looking for a LT girl decide whatever st and go. At R4 see a girl not even my type hot but tons of plastic surgery huge tits mid-late 30's (I normally like young cute girls) but decide this type might be fun. Have her over for a drink tell her no condom ok etc she's fine with it we agree 2 k st at the plaza.

So heading up to the room I snap a few photos of her from behind not showing face she gets bitchy "photos room only". As soon as we get to the room she starts talking about condom, haven't even showered or anything. I'm like "no I told you no condom in bar" she says "I think you joking" I'm like "no condom or no pay" she getting extra bitchy so I'm like whatever I'm going to grab my barfine back. On the way out I ask for room refund as I was in ot not even 5 minutes nope no way.

Back at bar I straight tell the mama there she agreed no condom would not I want my BF back I've taken 4 girls here recently no problems whatsoever. Girl is talking tons of shit ofc. Anyways big scene girl is raging mad waitresses everyone knows what's going on. Mama says ok barfine back. Take my money walking downstairs here comes this botch with 2 security "lady say you take picture cannot have". So I let them go through my phone see a few shitty pics of her back which get deleted and they leave me.

I'm positive she knew I wanted bb I think she thought she could scam me into condom st anyways. Many guys would likely just say fine condom in room at that point. Then she realized I'm not a mug but even then never expected me to go to the bar and complain. This is exactly why I stick to the more innocent types as this was a straight scam.

I actually went to rb4 the next week mana came over "what girl you want". The scammer is gone haven seen her in multiple visits there or anywhere in nana.

Google has the answer:

[URL]https://www.stickboybkk.com/go-go-bars/introducing-nana-plazas-newest-bar-random/[/URL]

Random was created when the two bars mentioned closed down. The space was converted into a single bar and it is 100% women. I'll definitely check the place out as it's getting some good reviews.

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic555;2493730]You know thinking about it now you're correct that bar used to be rainbow 3. Right next door is the lb bar I'm not sure if the lb one is even open. I actually think the bar maybe part of rainbow group as many girls from that group are working there.

I'm pretty sure its all women inside. Actually my first night there I was kind of concerned of the bar was mixed or not. Like I states the name random is such a bad name haha.

Off topic but story from a couple months ago that's somewhat interesting. I'm in rainbow 4 basically not finding the any girls ok with LT as I was looking for a LT girl decide whatever st and go. At R4 see a girl not even my type hot but tons of plastic surgery huge tits mid-late 30's (I normally like young cute girls) but decide this type might be fun. Have her over for a drink tell her no condom ok etc she's fine with it we agree 2 k st at the plaza.

So heading up to the room I snap a few photos of her from behind not showing face she gets bitchy "photos room only". As soon as we get to the room she starts talking about condom, haven't even showered or anything. I'm like "no I told you no condom in bar" she says "I think you joking" I'm like "no condom or no pay" she getting extra bitchy so I'm like whatever I'm going to grab my barfine back. On the way out I ask for room refund as I was in ot not even 5 minutes nope no way.

Back at bar I straight tell the mama there she agreed no condom would not I want my BF back I've taken 4 girls here recently no problems whatsoever. Girl is talking tons of shit ofc. Anyways big scene girl is raging mad waitresses everyone knows what's going on. Mama says ok barfine back. Take my money walking downstairs here comes this botch with 2 security "lady say you take picture cannot have". So I let them go through my phone see a few shitty pics of her back which get deleted and they leave me.

I'm positive she knew I wanted bb I think she thought she could scam me into condom st anyways. Many guys would likely just say fine condom in room at that point. Then she realized I'm not a mug but even then never expected me to go to the bar and complain. This is exactly why I stick to the more innocent types as this was a straight scam.

I actually went to rb4 the next week mana came over "what girl you want". The scammer is gone haven seen her in multiple visits there or anywhere in nana.[/QUOTE]That is an interesting report. I have certainly stopped everything and gone back to the bar to get a refund on the barfine when the girl went from Jekyll to Hyde as soon as the bedroom door closed behind us. But even I never had the nerve to base it so much on her scamming the upfront no condom agreement. Damn bold of you! Hats off. However, I for sure would have done it on that basis alone if one of my helpful mamasans who brought me a girl already vetted on the issue had subsequently changed the rules in the room.

I am not sure I was ever faced with a Yes in the bar but No in the room scam on the upfront no condom agreement as blatantly as it seems happened in your case. Maybe I just don't recall it at the moment. She "thought you were joking"? LOL. That's a first. Then she obviously heard you ask for it, understood the words and heard herself say Yes in reply.

And note, folks, he was not banned, snubbed or even looked down upon for it by the management, the mamasan or the girls worth his time and money to take. It actually worked out for the better for everyone all around. Except for the scamming girl.