Panama City

Thanks to your directions, I did locate Relax Oriental. I could not have located it without them.

The door was locked first, but then a thin below avg looking girl opened it. I stepped in to take a look inside. 2 other ladies were sitting in lingerie. One was old and unattractive, and the other was in her 20's, and barely a 5-6. It was not air conditioned, and seemed really stuffy. Just bad vibes, so I turned around and walked out. I could hear the girls laughing in the background as they saw my facial expressions of disgust.

Just not my thing. I took the metro back to de Carmen, and found a 7 at Veneto and took her back to Hyatt for a mid-day massage and quickie instead. It was around 2 pm, and there were 6-8 girls at Veneto, better selection then Relax Oriental, and for the same price of $60.

[QUOTE=RRreynolds158;1871181]There is an Indian restaurant called Avatar Indian Cousine on Via Argentine, and I walked right past it, so missed it. Thanks for your directions, I may try it this afternoon.[/QUOTE]

It was a rainy night. Started raining around 10 pm, just when Habano's picks up. Being at Hyatt, I waited out the heavy rain until about 1130 pm, and then finally walked over with an umbrella.

As expected, everyone was packed inside, as the outside area chairs were folded in due to rain. Very tight and tough to walk around and gauge the line up. Rain is bad news at Habanos. Talked to a bunch of girls but they all seemed to be in a hurry, with" Hi I am xx, want to take me to your hotel?

The quality of the girls seemed down, and it could be that girls were avoiding Habanos due to rain or me coming in late missed out on the cream of the crop, probably a combination of both.

Anyways, being my last night, I wanted to be selective. Decided to hop on a taxi to Veneto.

It was thin at Veneto as well, as I got there around 1 am. A couple of girls came by but no appeal for me. Finally this Venezuelan girl Carolina (a 7) came by and sat down with me. She was very sweet and gave me shoulder massage and hugs, sat in my lap etc. She had a nice body a great ass, cute face and most importantly a good attitude.

So we agreed on una hora for $100. Hopped on a taxi and back at Hyatt.

We showered together, then a good massage, followed by multiple positions. Not a clock watcher and good energetic sex, as she was putting a lot of effort into it. After we finished, she laid with me and we started talking. She proposed she could sleep over and we can make love again in the am for another $100. I have been looking for TLN all week, and when she proposed, I agreed.

After we took another shower (which she suggested and I liked) we watched a movie before falling asleep. Woke up in the am with her bum pressing against me. Started another good round, DFKs, CBJ, multiple positions, just a perfect start of the day.

After we finished, we again showered together. I offered her to join me for breakfast and she accepted. She was dressed like a normal girl, not slutty, so I was comfortable walking around with her in the hotel. Venezuelans have very fair skin, and me being Mediterranean, we looked like a couple. She was my 2nd Venezuelan on this trip and they were both awesome! Compared to Colombians, who just want to be in and out.

Very pleased with my last session, and I walked her out into a taxi with a smile on my face.

[QUOTE=YellowPaul;1871139]PTY seems to be getting a lot of buzz these days but is seems many of the in demand Columbian girls seem to be drama queens.

Although I have not been there yet. It reminds me of a situation of Columbian trying to charge me $20 for a condom and created a scene when I refused to pay.

Any way to get around the "money first" policy?[/QUOTE]Yes, tell them, "Yo pago despues!" If they balk, let them walk! I have never had a 'good session' when I pre-pay! They make up excuses to leave early, everything hurts, total BS! If she is genuine, she'll accept & you'll have a good session!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1871680]Yes, tell them, "Yo pago despues!" If they balk, let them walk! I have never had a 'good session' when I pre-pay! They make up excuses to leave early, everything hurts, total BS! If she is genuine, she'll accept & you'll have a good session![/QUOTE]I've always wondered if this is a result of the Secret Service guy refusing to pay the girl in Cartagena a few years back. And the girls are wary. Or if this is just putanomics.

(I have the money, good luck getting good service). My catch phrase is "Eso es falto de respecto" ("That is disrespectful") saying "you are being disrespectful" is a serious.

Stinger to the pride in SA.

[QUOTE=RRreynolds158;1871619]It was a rainy night. Started raining around 10 pm, just when Habano's picks up. Being at Hyatt, I waited out the heavy rain until about 1130 pm, and then finally walked over with an umbrella.

As expected, everyone was packed inside, as the outside area chairs were folded in due to rain. Very tight and tough to walk around and gauge the line up. Rain is bad news at Habanos. Talked to a bunch of girls but they all seemed to be in a hurry, with" Hi I am xx, want to take me to your hotel?

The quality of the girls seemed down, and it could be that girls were avoiding Habanos due to rain or me coming in late missed out on the cream of the crop, probably a combination of both.

Anyways, being my last night, I wanted to be selective. Decided to hop on a taxi to Veneto.

It was thin at Veneto as well, as I got there around 1 am. A couple of girls came by but no appeal for me. Finally this Venezuelan girl Carolina (a 7) came by and sat down with me. She was very sweet and gave me shoulder massage and hugs, sat in my lap etc. She had a nice body a great ass, cute face and most importantly a good attitude.

So we agreed on una hora for $100. Hopped on a taxi and back at Hyatt.

We showered together, then a good massage, followed by multiple positions. Not a clock watcher and good energetic sex, as she was putting a lot of effort into it. After we finished, she laid with me and we started talking. She proposed she could sleep over and we can make love again in the am for another $100. I have been looking for TLN all week, and when she proposed, I agreed.

After we took another shower (which she suggested and I liked) we watched a movie before falling asleep. Woke up in the am with her bum pressing against me. Started another good round, DFKs, CBJ, multiple positions, just a perfect start of the day.

After we finished, we again showered together. I offered her to join me for breakfast and she accepted. She was dressed like a normal girl, not slutty, so I was comfortable walking around with her in the hotel. Venezuelans have very fair skin, and me being Mediterranean, we looked like a couple. She was my 2nd Venezuelan on this trip and they were both awesome! Compared to Colombians, who just want to be in and out.

Very pleased with my last session, and I walked her out into a taxi with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]I have only been with one Venezuelan girl, and that was actually in Cartagena, Colombia. I have to say she was a lot sweeter and nicer than most of the Colombian girls I have been with. I've been with a few Panamanian ladies and they seem be shallow minded and don't like sticking around long. But, I think many of them make excuses for why they are going out at night, and just want to make some money and go back home.

[QUOTE=DarkSide99;1871345]Can anyone give me info on the rooms at the Hyatt?

Is it worth it to pay more and get the large king room?[/QUOTE]Definitely get the large king room. I upgraded myself to that for $22 more per night, and it was an excellent decision. As I understood, these rooms are on the corner, and if you get the higher floor, you will impress the girls with the more spacious room and better view. I was on 17th.

I was in PTY for 4 days recently. Overall it was a fun trip, and I enjoyed most of the activities in this trip. Since most of my experience matched what other posters have reported previously, I won't repeat those experiences, but instead focus more on those less discussed. And I did a quick report on the first day I arrived the City, so this is mostly a report for the remaining 3 days.

The Hotel.

I stayed at Hyatt, a very nice hotel for the price, wonderful staffs and good breakfast included. A previous poster thought the breakfast a little weak, I found it was sufficient to start the day. During my stay, I only brought back one girl from Veneto on the first night, and have a date with a girl I met at La Boca in the early evening of my second day. But other than making a copy of the passport of the girl from Veneto, no question asked, no fee charged. With the Boca girl, we just went up to my room straight at around 7 PM. I'the like to point out that even the location is closed to Habano and Veneto, this is not at all a monger's hotel. It is pretty much a 4-star family and business hotel. During my stay, I never once run into anybody come in or go out with a "chica". Just learned that RRrenolds was here at the same hotel the whole 4 days period I was there. We could have hooked up and hit those hot spots together, as I read, he was having difficulty finding some places.

Habano and Veneto.

I went to Habano 3 nights out of 4, but didn't pull anybody out of there. All 3 nights the places were packed with very hot girls, the hottest place in Town at this moment, but I don't like the place that much. It's small, so you rob shoulders with everybody. And most of the seating are open to the street only served by big fans instead of AC. Girls are also a little more reserved to respond intimately in the public. It is difficult to relax until the late hours before they closed. On the girl side, you will run into many Paisas, girls from Medellin, 8 out of 10, and the quality is quite high. Unfortunately they are quite business minded. I would say chances of GFE is not good with them. We have lots of recent discussion here about girls asking money first, well, I asked every girl I stroke a conversation with, they all confirm this behavior, some quite firm, some with a little flexibility. The stories were they or their friends have been rubbed by the guests which I think were just lies. I would say most of us won't spend the expense and travel all the way to Panama City to fight a working girl for $100,150. And the local guys who can afford them will not do that either. It is a plain excuse for them to get out of your room earlier than they had promised. So guys don't give in on this. Discuss this first with them at the bar. If they don't agree, go to the next one. The supply is much greater than demand, here.

I only went to Veneto on my first night. A little less girl than Habano, but more relax environment. With all the places I have been to, and all the girls I have been with, I thought I could spot a shark a mile away. Well, not on this one, the girl I pulled from here, Maria Carmen. A paisita with beautiful face. She was so sweet and promised the heaven before we got to the hotel, but also had so many restrictions and provided lousy service in the room. She also asked for money first, but I stood firmed, didn't even show her the money, and she stayed. I ran into her again at Habano on my last night. She even had the guts to ask for a repeat. I saw her left alone at closing.

I went to Relax on the second day. It is in a hidden location off Via Argentina close to Via Espana. Direction was just provided by other posters, so I won't repeat. 3 girls on duty on Sun. Afternoon. Picked a 21 year old from Bogota. Service was very plain, and nothing worth noting. But she was young and beautiful. $60 for the hour. She didn't ask for propina, non given. I went back the last night as well, but thin selection with only 2 girls, both about 6, so I left. I also went to Royal Elegante. Asking $100 for the hour. 4 girls available ranging 4-6. Again left without participate.

La Boca Terranea and La Mayor.

I talked a little about these 2 places earlier, but wil will in a little more. First you need some Spanish to fully enjoy what these 2 places offer. Both places were a lot of fun. I like girls more at la Boca, but prefer the club and rooms of la Mayor. I went to la mayor twice and only once in la Boca, more on why later. Beers are $2 for guys and if you invite a girl to sit with you, it is $6. It is all up to the girls how long she wants to sit with you. No pressure from the maseros to buy girl drink, unusual for a club. Both places have a few very beautiful girls. More in la Boca. Sections are $20 for 15 min. Some poster said $15. I paid $20 at both places, so maybe local members can verify here. I was with 2 girls, one from each club, they were both 7. 5 in my book and both were very passionate and provided outstanding service. The rooms in la Mayor are cleaner. I don't suggest going to the room in la Boca, a little filthy. Go there to see the girls, enjoy the scene and to collect #'s from the girls you like. I arranged with a Paisa I met there for a one hour date the next afternoon for $60. She came over and stayed for 2. We had very hot sex, and she told me a lot about her life. That was my mistake, Got too much involved with her that she kept calling me more than 20 times for the remaining of my stay. And to avoid her, I can't go back to la Boca again. There were quite a few other young spinners I would like to meet in la Boca.

Try to dress down when you go to these 2 bars and never show any valuable. Inside and immediate outside of these 2 places are quite safe. If you arrive and leave with a taxi, I don't think you will have any issue at all. Don't stroll into the area nearby except if you are heading for Casco Viejo direction or the seafood market. There were some bars and discos in nearby barrio Chino that might look tempting, but not a good idea to venture there.

Dynasty.

This is not the name of the building, but the name of a store on the ground floor of this building. It was mentioned here a while back. I DON"T recommend coming to this place for the low quality of the girls and the unsafe neighborhood. I only post this place for those who are curious enough and dare to venture. The place is at Plaza Cinco de Mayo, The building is directly facing the Plaza on the corner of Avenida Central why Calle L. You can get here by taxi or by metro during the day. It opens at 7:30 AM and close around the same hour in the evening. This is not a place to be. After dark. The Chica apartment starts from the 3rd floor to the 5th. You go up through a small yellow gate where a Jewry stands is on the side of the building facing Avenida Central. There is another gate on the side of Calle L. But it is locked most of the times. Each apartment is occupied by 2-4 girls who have their own tiny cubicles. There are roughly 60-80 girls inside this building, but mostly heavier and unattractive. I would rate them between 1-5, most on the lower end. This is a place that local guys pay $15 for a quickie, or as the girls I talked to joked, until you come. Make sure you have your passport or photocopy of it with you when you come here. Very often police patrol this place, and they will stand at the entrance stairs to check everyone's ID. One time, they gave me a hard time for that I didn't have my original passport but a photocopy. I got the feeling that they were probably looking for a bribe since I am a foreigner. But I didn't give in. Sensing no hope of getting paid, they let me go after 15 min. If I didn't carry the photocopy with me, I could have been in a bigger trouble.

Luck stoke me as I strolled through the different apartments, I ran into this girl from Medellin who stood out and didn't look like any of the others. We talked and joked before I asked for the cost. She said $20 instead of $15. I didn't know if this was with foreigner's tax or she charged higher than other girls. But she was certainly worth every extra penny. She is prettier than half of the girls I saw in either Havano or Veneto, and easily a 7. 5 in my book. The section was hot and steamy, lots of jokes mixed with tons of DFK's and affectionate touches that I ended up staying more than an hour. She told me she was going back to Medellin on the 30th to prepare for a contract to work in Curacao. She invited me to visit her either in her city or later in Curacao. Knowing that is very unlikely I took the opportunity to lock her up for many hours in the next 2 days. She was a surprise and a rare found. If not for her, I would say the effort of going and finding this place would have been a total waste. I will not rate any of the other chicas I saw above 5. Plaza Cinco de Mayo is not a safe place. You always have to watch your back when walking in this area, and never come here at night. The girls told me the police were there to protect them which I could see why and totally agreed.

Other Clubs.

On my last night, a cab driver took me to this club Caribe, it is a little out of the way in an area called Rio Abajo. An upscale clubs with about 15-20 young girls working, mostly 5-7 range. I didn't see any super hottie there. During the short 15 minutes I stayed there, I noticed little interaction between guys and girls in the club. When a guy saw a girl he likes, he just went up to her and say "vamos" . I didn't ask the price, but my driver told me it's $25 for 15 min. La Nueva Gruta Azul is on the same street close by, but the pouring rain has turned the street into small river with raging water, so I didn't go in. I heard it is a similar set up.

I also went to Ashe on Via Uruguay. This is a club where you can find some girls working. Some Habano and Veneto girls also come here for a second shot if they didn't strike a deal earlier. You can also bring a girl here if you want to dance. It doesn't start after 11 PM. The Mon. Night I was there, girls only started rolling in after midnight.

My thought of PTY.

PTY is probably not the best mongering city I have been, but it is a fun place to be. It is a nicer Latin America city with various activities. Casco Viejo, for example, is worth a visit. Nice hotel are quite economical here and taxi are very inexpensive. I would not come here for Habano or Veneto alone. Colombia is close by. You are better off going to the source and have more passionate service at lower prices. Those hot girls at both places are quite hard core. They are fun to look at and flirt with, but as I said earlier, chances of getting GFE is not good. I didn't get the chance to visit Golden time, Golden Fingers or other massage in that area, but I suspect I missed much either. Girls at both la Boca and la Major are more genuine and more passionate to me. If you can find a gem there which is not difficult, the reward is worth the efforts.

Also, make friend with taxi drives, those driving at night shift and are not too old, they all have a stable of chica clientes they can hook you up with, and they know who are better than the others. Many independent girls in PTY who provide good services and are popular don't even need to go to Habano or Veneto to get customers. Prices are similar to the girls in both places.

4 days were not long enough to know the place well, but I at least got the general idea of the place. And thanks to the previous posters for providing valuable info that made my trip much more fun and easier. Hope this report return with the same for future visitors.

[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;1872739]I was in PTY for 4 days recently. Overall it was a fun trip, and I enjoyed most of the activities in this trip. Since most of my experience matched what other posters have reported previously, I won't repeat those experiences, but instead focus more on those less discussed. And I did a quick report on the first day I arrived the City, so this is mostly a report for the remaining 3 days.

The Hotel.

I stayed at Hyatt, a very nice hotel for the price, wonderful staffs and good breakfast included. A previous poster thought the breakfast a little weak, I found it was sufficient to start the day. During my stay, I only brought back one girl from Veneto on the first night, and have a date with a girl I met at La Boca in the early evening of my second day. But other than making a copy of the passport of the girl from Veneto, no question asked, no fee charged. With the Boca girl, we just went up to my room straight at around 7 PM. I'the like to point out that even the location is closed to Habano and Veneto, this is not at all a monger's hotel. It is pretty much a 4-star family and business hotel. During my stay, I never once run into anybody come in or go out with a "chica". Just learned that RRrenolds was here at the same hotel the whole 4 days period I was there. We could have hooked up and hit those hot spots together, as I read, he was having difficulty finding some places...[/QUOTE]Viajando,

Thank you for sharing.

What was the total damage / amount you ended up spending during the 4 days? I ask because I have a similar schedule. Visiting PTY for 4-5 days, staying in same hotel and same King Suite.

Great report, Viajando!! It's reports like yours that make this site so good! Thank you for taking the time to put it all together. This needs to go into reports of distinction.

Great report!

Yeah look like we were there at the same time, and I could have used a wing man at Habanos. You are right on though on the girls there are not GFEs, they are just in and out.

I did meet a gal my last night Tuesday at Veneto who ended up being TLN for $200. And she was sweet and pleasant and wanted to make me happy. I left Wednesday.

[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;1872739]I was in PTY for 4 days recently. Overall it was a fun trip, and I enjoyed most of the activities in this trip. Since most of my experience matched what other posters have reported previously, I won't repeat those experiences, but instead focus more on those less discussed. And I did a quick report on the first day I arrived the City, so this is mostly a report for the remaining 3 days.

The Hotel.

I stayed at Hyatt, a very nice hotel for the price, wonderful staffs and good breakfast included. A previous poster thought the breakfast a little weak, I found it was sufficient to start the day. During my stay, I only brought back one girl from Veneto on the first night, and have a date with a girl I met at La Boca in the early evening of my second day. But other than making a copy of the passport of the girl from Veneto, no question asked, no fee charged. With the Boca girl, we just went up to my room straight at around 7 PM. I'the like to point out that even the location is closed to Habano and Veneto, this is not at all a monger's hotel. It is pretty much a 4-star family and business hotel. During my stay, I never once run into anybody come in or go out with a "chica". Just learned that RRrenolds was here at the same hotel the whole 4 days period I was there. We could have hooked up and hit those hot spots together, as I read, he was having difficulty finding some places..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BillyBob3000;1872782]Viajando,

Thank you for sharing.

What was the total damage / amount you ended up spending during the 4 days? I ask because I have a similar schedule. Visiting PTY for 4-5 days, staying in same hotel and same King Suite.[/QUOTE]BillyBob,

Here is the breakdowns.

4 nights hotel and breakfasts with upgrade $408.

Food including 5 meals in restaurants $110.

Taxis including airport transfer both ways $80.

Local sim card and preload $6.

Beers for me and the girls $55.

Chicas $580.

For a total of around $1240 not counting the airfare. On chicas, I only pulled one girl from Veneto for $100, and non from Habano. I spent a total of about 13 hours with 5 different girls, all are similar quality to Habano (7-8). 2 girls provided bad service, Veneto girl, and Relax massage girl. The other 3 were fantastic. See my report.

Had I pulled more girls from Habano or Veneto, my chica fee could have been much higher. I just avoid the sharks there, and had much more fun cheaper elsewhere.

[QUOTE=RRreynolds158;1870710]I arrived PTY around 8 pm. In arrival area, there was line of people waiting, so I took the escalator upstairs, and got a cab within a couple of minutes. Strangely enough there was an older women in front seat with the cab driver.

They kept talking to each other throughout, and even made a pit stop to say high to someone at a gas station for a minute. Strange. But they got me to the Hyatt Place within 15 minutes, for a pre-negotiated price of $25. Hyatt is very nice by the way, very clean, and front deck folks were awesome.

After checking in, I walk around within the 2 block area and found a market across Costa Azul to pick up some utility items, and back to the hotel within 20 minutes. Short walk and felt safe.

Left my room around 11 pm for my first visit to Habanos. Lot of girls standing around, pretty decent selection. Mostly 6-7's, some 9's.

My Spanish is zero, so I had to use the Google translator to chat up with the girls. I talked to 4 different girls, as they approached me 1 by 1. I was looking for TLN, and they all raised eye brows on that, as it seemed they all wanted 1-HR.

Uno HR rate was $150 for most, and all night was $400 or $500.

This one chick from Columbia-Veronica had the hottest ass in the place, I could not get my eyes off of her. She noticed me and came over. Wanted $500 for TLN, but we agreed to $200 from 11 am to 3 am. Walked back to the hotel holding hands and her teaching me some basic pleasantries in Spanish....[/QUOTE]How would you compare Panama to Jaco / San Jose in terms of price and service. I've been to Panama before but considering switching it up and going to Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=DarkSide99;1874104]How would you compare Panama to Jaco / San Jose in terms of price and service. I've been to Panama before but considering switching it up and going to Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]Darkside, please excuse me for butting in, but if I may I will provide a comparison from my view. I have been going to CR for over ten years, but am now going to PTY. CR is great and I had amazing times. In terms of price I find San Jose the cheapest, and the GFE service from the local girls is great. Jaco costs more than sj and less GFE. Panama costs like Jaco, and sometimes more, and the GFE is about 50% of the time. So why only Panama for me now? This is purely personal preference, but I am simply done with poor places. I know, I sound terrible. But PTY is almost first world like a mIami but with hot chicas. I pay more there, but I like the whole upscale feel of the bars and casinos etc. It's like I am in the states but have access to the hottest COLOMBIAN babes. This is just my view. The cheapest place is still Colombia. Really cheap. But for me pty is close and upscale and I will pay more for the girls. If paying the least is your primary concern then go to Medellin. Good looking cheap babes there. Just watch your back.

[QUOTE=Villainy;1871850]I've always wondered if this is a result of the Secret Service guy refusing to pay the girl in Cartagena a few years back. And the girls are wary. Or if this is just putanomics.

(I have the money, good luck getting good service). My catch phrase is "Eso es falto de respecto" ("That is disrespectful") saying "you are being disrespectful" is a serious.

Stinger to the pride in SA.[/QUOTE]That 'lack of respect' comeback is an excellent idea to put you in position to not pay upfront. I really think most of the girls have been or at least have a friend that has been ripped off before. However, the few times I have pre-paid (non-MP sessions), most of the worst sessions have ensued. I refuse to pre-pay now regardless of what she looks like. In Feb, I kicked a 9 out of my condo at the Vista Mar in Jaco & 20 min later pulled the highlight of my trip from the CoCal. So sometimes things work out!

El Mechanico

[QUOTE=BatInTheCity;1874708]Darkside, please excuse me for butting in, but if I may I will provide a comparison from my view. I have been going to CR for over ten years, but am now going to PTY. CR is great and I had amazing times. In terms of price I find San Jose the cheapest, and the GFE service from the local girls is great. Jaco costs more than sj and less GFE. Panama costs like Jaco, and sometimes more, and the GFE is about 50% of the time. So why only Panama for me now? This is purely personal preference, but I am simply done with poor places. I know, I sound terrible. But PTY is almost first world like a mIami but with hot chicas. I pay more there, but I like the whole upscale feel of the bars and casinos etc. It's like I am in the states but have access to the hottest COLOMBIAN babes. This is just my view. The cheapest place is still Colombia. Really cheap. But for me pty is close and upscale and I will pay more for the girls. If paying the least is your primary concern then go to Medellin. Good looking cheap babes there. Just watch your back.[/QUOTE]Feel the same. That's why PTY in now my destination of chose.

Lee.