East China - Shanghai

Just a small tip, QQ International has no photo access. I have both versions installed, International, and Chinese, on the Chinese one I can view photo albums.

The same account accesses both!

[QUOTE=Landa; 1250790]Long time ago I saw some info in the forum about the QQ girls and got interested. Finally after some trial / error I have some info I can share:

Tools:

- QQ international (chat software in english)

- Google translate.

- basic knowledge of writing in Chinese with a computer (and very little reading)

- able to have basic spoken communication in Chinese (otherwise forget about it)

Pro:

- there is many Chinese sites where the girls put their ads / pic / qq / price / service.

- like in this forum, Chinese users provide feedback so you can read detect fake pics or look only for verified ones.

- girls are all around the city and most of the times you can filter by area.

- they work at home which I think it is a lot safer.

- prices for FS are from 200 (far away) to 400 (centric places) but the standard use to be 300 (1pop). Around 800 per night (unlimited pops)

- uniforms or special dress requests available.

Con:

- some pics are fake (10% rate in my case)

- girls do not provide the full address till you arrive to the cross. Then you have to call them and it could become complicated. (best via sms / chat).

- usually no massage.

- sometimes you have to wait a little because they are busy (happened twice to me).

- many do not accept laowai so better you ask them first.

Procedure:

- to find QQ girl sites the easiest way is to have one qq girl number, search in google and probably you will find 3 or 4 places where the girl put her ad.

- look for the MM show or a verified thread or something like that. This way you will reduce the chances of fake pics.

- add the QQ contact to your QQ and start asking the basic things:

Zhaopianzhendema? Photos real. She will give you a link and a password to see more (usually their qq space, something like qqnumber and qzone)

Dizhi. Address.

Fuwu. Service.

Jiage. Price.

If you like what you got then ask her if she mind you being laowai (woshilaowai, youwentima?). Many will say buxing! (no way!)

(girls copy paste their answers to this questions since they are asked dozens of times a day.)

If no problem, the girl will give you her phone number and ask you to give her a call when you arrive. Then she will give you the building number, floor and room.

Not sure if its allowed to put a QQ number here but anyway, here you have 2 pics (not mine, sent by her via qq) with one of the best I have met some time ago (her QQ account has been closed but probably she opened a new one). Damage 400. All the regular services from a sauna (BBBJ, FS and water games). Nice girl but made me wait for almost 20min and I really thought it was a fake one even after a Chinese friend from a forum confirmed me she was real (she shared apartment for business, but lives in other floor of the same building, around ningxialu I remember)

Cya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1251038]What groupon style sites are you using? Always interesting to try a new place with a coupon.

Also, I have no intention of going to an almost destroyed room with a bunch of random people in it. Private rooms being available with 2 chairs. 4-5 chairs etc so you can go with friends would be ideal. I will take a look around at the places you mentioned.

My ulterior motive for this massage place is to meet working class Chinese girls that can also teach me Chinese and take them out to dinner and such. Already sick of the "I am shanghainese so I am better than everyone" attitude. So working class girls and imports for me![/QUOTE]Groupon: I use tuan800, its like the google of the Chinese groupons. My Chinese friend do the bookings and pay online so we just have to make an appointment and enjoy. Tip: unless the place is super nice (I have been in Villa Vizcaya for 150rmb. AMAZING place and massage. For 98rmb extra we were allowed to use the jacuzzi, sauna,"etc" for 1 hour) just find the place you want, call them to make the booking the same day or day before, if they say ok, then buy the coupon.

Destroyed places: then do not waste time going to the ones I said in changping lu. Try the one in changshou lu. I use to go there to watch soccer / basket in TV with some colleagues (up to 4 chairs in the same room) because it was super cheap and allowed us to bring beers from the convenience store (they do not sell beer). The entrance is in the north west part of the cross. 15 meters to the left. Huge entrance, take the elevator to the 2nd floor (or 3rd.). Anyway, you will see the huge massage sign in the building.

After my first year in Shanghai I use to have 1 foot massage a day just for practicing Chinese (20RMB the not very nice places and 48rmb in the better ones). First day conversations were typical. Next days a lot more productive. I met a lot of nice people but I never date anyone (unless you count having dinner with them in the massage place).

Cya

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1251042]Just a small tip, QQ International has no photo access. I have both versions installed, International, and Chinese, on the Chinese one I can view photo albums.

The same account accesses both![/QUOTE]Nice to know, thanks. Now I access the photo albums manually by opening qqnumber. Qzone. Com webpage

[QUOTE=Landa; 1251117]Groupon: I use tuan800, its like the google of the Chinese groupons. My Chinese friend do the bookings and pay online so we just have to make an appointment and enjoy. Tip: unless the place is super nice (I have been in Villa Vizcaya for 150rmb. AMAZING place and massage. For 98rmb extra we were allowed to use the jacuzzi, sauna,"etc" for 1 hour) just find the place you want, call them to make the booking the same day or day before, if they say ok, then buy the coupon.

Destroyed places: then do not waste time going to the ones I said in changping lu. Try the one in changshou lu. I use to go there to watch soccer / basket in TV with some colleagues (up to 4 chairs in the same room) because it was super cheap and allowed us to bring beers from the convenience store (they do not sell beer). The entrance is in the north west part of the cross. 15 meters to the left. Huge entrance, take the elevator to the 2nd floor (or 3rd.). Anyway, you will see the huge massage sign in the building.

After my first year in Shanghai I use to have 1 foot massage a day just for practicing Chinese (20RMB the not very nice places and 48rmb in the better ones). First day conversations were typical. Next days a lot more productive. I met a lot of nice people but I never date anyone (unless you count having dinner with them in the massage place).

Cya[/QUOTE]Sounds just like what I am looking for. I owe you a beer or a footie I suppose!

Will head over there this weekend and see how it goes!

Was in Gubei and walked across "Bi Li Hu Sauna" on the corner of Hongbaoshi and Jinzhi (which is one street east and parallel of Gubei Road.). Was quoted 700 for dry service; 880 for soapie; and 600 (I think) for daytime discount (1-7). Didn't try because I was busy, but wondering if anyone else has.

Location is great. Right in the middle of all those office high-rises. Can take MTR Line 10 to Yili Road, walk west for half block to Jinzhi Road, turn left, and walk 2 minutes until the end of the street. Sauna is next to a 7-11 and Subway.

I will be in Shanghai in a few weeks and wanted to try out a different bar scene then Malone's, Judy's or Manhattan. Some people had recommended Zapata's for meeting local and local WG. I found two Zapata's: one near the Hilton and another farther away on Hengshen Lu. Can someone tell me which one is better and what is it like on a Friday or Saturday night? Are there a lot of WG, or is it more of a local crowd.

Thanks,

AL

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1251409]I will be in Shanghai in a few weeks and wanted to try out a different bar scene then Malone's, Judy's or Manhattan. Some people had recommended Zapata's for meeting local and local WG. I found two Zapata's: one near the Hilton and another farther away on Hengshen Lu. Can someone tell me which one is better and what is it like on a Friday or Saturday night? Are there a lot of WG, or is it more of a local crowd.

Thanks,

AL[/QUOTE]The one in Henshan lu. Long time ago was full of WG and one day the put the sign you see attached. Not sure about the current status.

Anyway any bar near hilton will probably have some girls to pick up but usually they are almost empty.

[QUOTE=Landa; 1251117]Groupon: I use tuan800, its like the google of the Chinese groupons. My Chinese friend do the bookings and pay online so we just have to make an appointment and enjoy. Tip: unless the place is super nice (I have been in Villa Vizcaya for 150rmb. AMAZING place and massage. For 98rmb extra we were allowed to use the jacuzzi, sauna,"etc" for 1 hour) just find the place you want, call them to make the booking the same day or day before, if they say ok, then buy the coupon.

Destroyed places: then do not waste time going to the ones I said in changping lu. Try the one in changshou lu. I use to go there to watch soccer / basket in TV with some colleagues (up to 4 chairs in the same room) because it was super cheap and allowed us to bring beers from the convenience store (they do not sell beer). The entrance is in the north west part of the cross. 15 meters to the left. Huge entrance, take the elevator to the 2nd floor (or 3rd.). Anyway, you will see the huge massage sign in the building.

After my first year in Shanghai I use to have 1 foot massage a day just for practicing Chinese (20RMB the not very nice places and 48rmb in the better ones). First day conversations were typical. Next days a lot more productive. I met a lot of nice people but I never date anyone (unless you count having dinner with them in the massage place).

Cya[/QUOTE]Landa can you tell me where villa vizcaya is, thanks

I was in Shanghai last week, here is the report.

I went out the back end of the hilton and took a right up wulumqui road until it intersects with about 4-5 roads. Took the right turn on Yuyuan? Road. On the left side of the street is a.

Place. 24 hours massage. I walk in there is a man at the desk. I get ready to leave and out comes a 30 something girl. Body 7, face 6. 208rmb for a 80 minute massage. I go in and

She offers me a shower and some silk shorts instead of the blue disposables. Nothing personal but did not want to share them with the rest of you mongers, so I kept my shorts on.

She upsells me to a gel massage for 258RMB. Didi is doing the talking at this point. She keeps saying Shoofu, shoofu. I like shoofu so what the hell. I figure I am getting a happy ending anyway. The gel was a let down. It was a cone thing that was (I think) supposed to simulate a tongue. I got a quick rub down, the gel thing all over my body, then up my ass. It was definately not my thing. Did the flip over, . She let me touch her thighs. Wanted cash to touch her chest. I decline. I got the HE, jumped in the shower, paid left.

I would not go back. I guess it was ok in a pinch, but not too clean. Stick to the 208 RMB. Save the 50 kuai for a beer at Manhattans!

I also went to check out the place on changping lu. Walked in and was met by a tall thin girl that had to be 5'11". She had what looked like a big pimple on her face. Brrrrr! I am 5'8" and prefer spinners so I left. I went across the street and looked into the shanxi lu place across the street. The one girl I saw looked old so at that point, I had lost interest so I did not go in. Maybe next time.

I recently visit the place and it's nice. Good location and good selection of girls.

[QUOTE=Sh Expat; 1251256]Was in Gubei and walked across "Bi Li Hu Sauna" on the corner of Hongbaoshi and Jinzhi (which is one street east and parallel of Gubei Road.). Was quoted 700 for dry service; 880 for soapie; and 600 (I think) for daytime discount (1-7). Didn't try because I was busy, but wondering if anyone else has.

Location is great. Right in the middle of all those office high-rises. Can take MTR Line 10 to Yili Road, walk west for half block to Jinzhi Road, turn left, and walk 2 minutes until the end of the street. Sauna is next to a 7-11 and Subway.[/QUOTE]

I am a regular reader of this forum, but this is my first post. I am in SH for a short visit & have only this weekend to have a good time. I am put up in a hotel in Pudong.

New to the Manhattan experience. Was wondering if someone could accompany me there to monger together tonight!

Please PM me if you have the time & willing to help out a fellow monger.

Cheers,

Jack

[QUOTE=John Clit;1251434]Landa can you tell me where villa vizcaya is, thanks[/QUOTE]Pudong, yun shan lu 2000.

You can fin the address and info here (Chinese)

Sh. Focus. Cn / votehouse / 1048. Html.

Just for clarification, I went with a friend and using huge coupon discount. I doubt they provide sex services there.

[QUOTE=Ing Hayalet; 1245141]Thank for information. Do you know more information about the everbright hotel KTV or Sauna?

I listen a story from my frien behind the hotel he gone a SPA which name is old pipe but he said 298 oil massage and she want 500 RMB for HE but then agree 200 RMB. But overall 498RMB expensive hust H. E.

I wait other people suggestion near everbright hotel[/QUOTE]Sorry for the very late reply, been doing a lot of travelling.

The KTV at the Everbright has around 300 or so girls and is one of the "raunchy" types. The girls wear flimsy "uniforms" which are basically a wraparound skirt and a very loose blouse. They will not wear a bra underneath. During the night at the KTV you basically play drinking games, sing, and do some fondling / making out. At least once during the evening, the girls do a rotation strip dance. This means the tops come off (and for some girls the bottoms too) and they do a lap dance. After a few minutes, the girl goes to the next guy and gives him a lap dance. This continues until your original girl comes back to you. The cost at KTV will generally be about 1100 a person (including room, alcohol, and all tips). Take out is an additional 1000 for 1 time and 1500 for all night. If you want the dance make sure you ask the mommy. Also if you intend on doing take out then talk to the mommy beforehand as well since not all of the girls will go back with a customer.

[QUOTE=NewChinaHand; 1248827]In general the more expensive the venue and the more likely there are to be expats, women, and children present the less likely you are to be hassled. The police in China don't have to worry about things like search warrants, concern for your legal rights, or anything beyond hoping they don't pinch someone with guanxi. No matter where you monger have your passport on you (legally you are supposed to anyway) and if you appear to be suitably apologetic the chance of you being sent on your way so they don't have to hassle with bringing in a foreign affairs cop skyrocket.

A general mistake people make is confusing [I]feeling[/I] Safe with [I]being[/I] Safe. Feeling safe in a private hotel room didn't protect these people from a police raid with a local news station invited along to video the event:

[url]http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2012/02/vice-squad-breaks-into-hotel-room-on-valentines-night-busts-threesome-and-air-it-on-tv/[/url][/QUOTE]Exactly! A few years back when I was living in Beijing I was at a party with some foreign embassy staff. They told me a story about how some poor sod was back at his hotel with a Mongolian chick he had picked up at Maggie's when the police busted down his door and hauled him off to jail. They soon let him go but kept his passport. After a few days of trying unsuccessfully to get it back himself, he had to call and get his embassy's help and he was eventually able to leave the country.

Hello dear mongers,

Thanks for all the excellent info provided in the forums. I am from Los Angeles & last year I had the opportunity to visit Beijing and from recommendations on this site, signed up on thebeijinger website and posted an ad looking for some fun company. Got a few responses and ended up hooking up with a wonderful WG who was a teacher by day and then ended up being my guide to Beijing and of course wonderful company back at the hotel. I will be visiting Shanghai in a few weeks and looked in this forum as well as others on the site to see if there was recommendations for sites like thebeijinger for shanghai where I could post / browse ads. Didn't find any useful links and hence my post here to ask fellow mongers about a good site where I could post an ad looking for companionship while on the trip to Shanghai. Appreciate any inputs. I will definitely plan on visiting Manhattan too.

Thanks in advance.