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[QUOTE=Berrys66;2518822][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9112693/JOHN-NAISH-face-life-death-game-against-mutant-viruses.html[/URL]

Just when we thought we were about to defeat Covid-19 by launching our Oxford vaccine, an alarming strain of the virus has emerged to strike fear into the ministers and experts fighting the pandemic.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock admitted yesterday that he is 'incredibly worried' about the fast-spreading mutant strain that has emerged in South Africa.
This boosted virulence may also defeat robustly youthful immune defenses. South Africa's health minister has warned that 'young, previously healthy people are now becoming very sick'.[/QUOTE]That's horrible news. Fauci's also saying it's most likely already in the states. I'm really glad I already got infected and recovered. But I wonder if my antibodies would protect me against this new strain. If they're saying the pfizer vaccines won't work against this strain, previously infected people may also no longer be immune.

If news like this keeps popping up, where there doesn't seem to be any hope of controlling the virus, I feel like the only solution will be to just open up and socially distance. How long are we going to live in fear of this disease that kills such a small percentage? By current plans, it's going on 2 years already (end of this year). With bad news like these, it may be longer.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2518895]That's horrible news. Fauci's also saying it's most likely already in the states. I'm really glad I already got infected and recovered. But I wonder if my antibodies would protect me against this new strain. If they're saying the pfizer vaccines won't work against this strain, previously infected people may also no longer be immune.

If news like this keeps popping up, where there doesn't seem to be any hope of controlling the virus, I feel like the only solution will be to just open up and socially distance. How long are we going to live in fear of this disease that kills such a small percentage? By current plans, it's going on 2 years already (end of this year). With bad news like these, it may be longer.[/QUOTE]Sorry. But isn't this a tabloid? Not saying there isn't perhaps some truth to it, but periodicals like this love to stretch the truth to create readers. Their target audience is low-middle income women. Basically, gossip queens that take everything as fact and tell their friends for a reaction.

With that said, the UK strain is in the US. And it is more contagious. Fortunately, from what I have heard, the vaccine is said to be equally as effective. Too bad it's rolling out so slowly.

I concur with your thought though, SinfullyKorean. I believe that eventually, it's just going to have to be social distancing and herd immunity. Perhaps our immune systems will strengthen naturally over time versus strains that aren't as dangerous, resulting in more effectiveness against the most deadly strains further down the road. I am not a doctor though! Haha.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2518716]That may be true, it's difficult to leave Thailand when coming here for mongering.

The best tip I can give you, is to see these girls for what they are: sex workers. (and I say that with all the respect in the world).

The biggest mistake westerners make is to get attached to the first girl they shag, and end up either taking them for a long time or being afraid to take another girl from that bar where the girl works.

These ladies are not your girlfriends, explore, change girls, have fun. It's all business.

Sure repeat visits may yield a better GF experience, but it can also give the girls the impression you are smitten and the GF drama comes out.

You are the customer and you are in control, be respectful of the ladies but don't be a pushover, call them out on their behavior if they do not perform (they can have off days, but not at your expense).[/QUOTE]I wish this was like sticked in the forum. These are sex workers. Not girlfriends. They don't like you, they are in business, you are their customer, and the thing they want more than anything is the money in your wallet. Nothing else, just the money. Their goal is to extract money from you, whatever it takes, that's their goal. Have respect, but this is a business transaction-- you get them, they get your money.

Also, on the last point-- take this to the bedroom. Tell them what you want. Be upfront and explicit. Don't beat around or make hints, just tell them. Don't expect them to know--be clear, they've heard it all before and done it all. Nothing you're asking for is strange or special or unique. If its offered, they'll do it, and they usually offer a whole lot.

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2518968]Sorry. But isn't this a tabloid? Not saying there isn't perhaps some truth to it, but periodicals like this love to stretch the truth to create readers. Their target audience is low-middle income women. Basically, gossip queens that take everything as fact and tell their friends for a reaction.

With that said, the UK strain is in the US. And it is more contagious. Fortunately, from what I have heard, the vaccine is said to be equally as effective. Too bad it's rolling out so slowly.[/QUOTE]I mean, if you're calling Dr. Fauci a source of gossip and tabloid material, then yes. LOL. Yes, the UK strain is more contagious, but not more lethal than the current common strain. But experts are saying the new virus prevents antibodies from targeting it. We'll know more in the coming few days. But if the current vaccines won't work against this new strain, I don't see any other solution than to just open everything back up.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/anthony-fauci-new-south-africa-covid-strain-us-1559041[/URL]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2519096]I mean, if you're calling Dr. Fauci a source of gossip and tabloid material, then yes. LOL. Yes, the UK strain is more contagious, but not more lethal than the current common strain. But experts are saying the new virus prevents antibodies from targeting it. We'll know more in the coming few days. But if the current vaccines won't work against this new strain, I don't see any other solution than to just open everything back up.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/anthony-fauci-new-south-africa-covid-strain-us-1559041[/URL][/QUOTE]Dr. Fauci, thanks for your service but I agree with another Doctor interviewed he changes with the wind and more interested in his image than science. Go back look at his suits in the beginning then look at his dress now! I wouldn't be surprised when this is over he would appear on Dancing with the Stars? It has gotten to a point I think many view him as a quack?

Why are nobody using the nasal spray from taffix that kills the covid dead. Its a mystery with all these deaths and cases when they could be zero if nasal spray is used ASAP.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2519127]Dr. Fauci, thanks for your service but I agree with another Doctor interviewed he changes with the wind ...[/QUOTE]Fauci reports extremely simplified versions of the current scientific understanding of the virus and disease. As more research is conducted, the understanding evolves and improves. Regarding his recommendations for society actions, those recommendations will evolve as the virus grows and (hopefully) shrinks.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2519198]Fauci reports extremely simplified versions of the current scientific understanding of the virus and disease. As more research is conducted, the understanding evolves and improves. Regarding his recommendations for society actions, those recommendations will evolve as the virus grows and (hopefully) shrinks.[/QUOTE]Science? Changing with the wind? But the reality he should lay low and basically do his job. Beginning of the last year he has been noted as saying " not a major threat, then warned the virus will be a apocalyptic pandemic, based many of his prediction on the IHME Models which was off by millions then reverse " you can't rely on models " wrong on Hydroxchloroquine, said cruises were okay Another huge mistake, malls, movies, gym, OK, 2/29 wrong again the list goes on and on! Only in government can someone with this record keep his job. I don't see science leading him any longer he stills looks good for his age but he might be in the same class as Biden?

Would it be possible to have a COVID orientated thread?

Just so those who want to have mongering info (however scarce) don't have to shuffle through medical opinions and ramblings? But keep it for those interested in their own thread?

Don't flame me please, just an uneducated opinion LOL.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2519332]Science? Changing with the wind? But the reality he should lay low and basically do his job. Beginning of the last year he has been noted as saying " not a major threat, then warned the virus will be a apocalyptic pandemic, based many of his prediction on the IHME Models which was off by millions then reverse " you can't rely on models " wrong on Hydroxchloroquine, said cruises were okay Another huge mistake, malls, movies, gym, OK, 2/29 wrong again the list goes on and on! Only in government can someone with this record keep his job. I don't see science leading him any longer he stills looks good for his age but he might be in the same class as Biden?[/QUOTE]There's lots of people who just want time on National TV. It helps in becoming rich. Wasn't Birx caught visiting her parents. Something the peons not supposed to do. LOL.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2519347]Would it be possible to have a COVID orientated thread?

Just so those who want to have mongering info (however scarce) don't have to shuffle through medical opinions and ramblings? But keep it for those interested in their own thread?

Don't flame me please, just an uneducated opinion LOL.[/QUOTE]Run Mann started one in the Blog section that has 4 posts in 7 months. Guess there is little interest discussing COVID in the Thailand forum.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4165-Coronavirus-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about[/URL]!

Most guys at least post COVID stuff in General Reports thread.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2519370]Run Mann started one in the Blog section that has 4 posts in 7 months. Guess there is little interest discussing COVID in the Thailand forum.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4165-Coronavirus-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about[/URL]!

Most guys at least post COVID stuff in General Reports thread.[/QUOTE]To each his own but you make a great point! I'm in no way of flaming anyone especially Nic, he has been here longer than I but in all the years on ISG I've never suggested a new thread, and here is why based on the history of this website. When people enter the site for Thailand scroll down and look at how many Threads of discussion there are particularly check the dates! Remember close to 20 years ago when I first came on there was like 8 threads sure there are some that were created that are very useful but the majority created due to suggestion is nothing but a wasteland. Remember NicF the guy Giotto? Or the reason why I fought tooth and nails for OldThaiHand as to why he shouldn't have been banned to have his own thread?

As I noted freedom comes with a price sometimes too much isn't a good thing someone doesn't feel the topic suits them at a given moment "let's have a new thread " being a moderator it isn't easy at times they want to make everyone happy be fair and balance so they create a Thread without really thinking scroll down the front page people see the future and history of such a suggestion. A good example presently is when the thread " rearrange of massages " I was against it they had a survey the whole works take a look at the date it was created and the last post dated 2012 before whatever reason all of a sudden it was brought back from the dead 8 years! Then someone suggested separating these two massage parlors because Annies and Tulip was getting all the conversation things to go in cycles just go with the flow like a cheap suit what is popular today isn't going to be tomorrow what goes around comes around?

No matter how many Thread is creating it is impossible to stay on topic everything is related in one way or another the forum is a discussion, not a book on one topic there isn't one person past or present who hasn't stray from a topic including those who make such suggestion. You got posters talking about bareback, safe sex, types of condoms, prices, looks, number system for looks who is overpaying, type of condoms that are used, why don't we give E. Tooms his own forum like Giotto since the virus he has dominated the Thread? Why don't we have a thread for every possible topic of discussion that goes for more than two days or a subject we don't feel is of interest? Be careful what you wish for?

I once was given a warning for being argumentative since I differ from the poster racist and prejudice opinion it was considered argumentative hell there isn't a post or response that doesn't fall close to that definition. Right now when it comes to the opinion of the Virus people read articles and want to express their view and how it might affect the P4 P particularly in Bangkok or Pattaya it is all relevant in some manner. The General Thread was created for " General topic " which really was one of the best moves but recently someone came on and suggested the topic in the discussion shouldn't be in the general thread. Who decides what actually belongs where and when?

Every topic someone doesn't like if people take the time and do some research go to your most popular Thread go back pages and read sooner or later the hot topic of the day will die! Now I will admit the Virus has gone on for a year now and will be with us for even longer? No matter what is done I read and I respond like it or not I just go with the flow it is not a big thing for a need to start another thread! Just my two cents of virus opinion! Go with the flow.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan] As I noted freedom comes with a price sometimes too much isn't a good thing someone doesn't feel the topic suits them at a given moment "let's have a new thread " being a moderator it isn't easy at times they want to make everyone happy be fair and balance so they create a Thread without really thinking scroll down the front page people see the future and history of such a suggestion. A good example presently is when the thread " rearrange of massages " I was against it they had a survey the whole works take a look at the date it was created and the last post dated 2012 before whatever reason all of a sudden it was brought back from the dead 8 years! Then someone suggested separating these two massage parlors because Annies and Tulip was getting all the conversation things to go in cycles just go with the flow like a cheap suit what is popular today isn't going to be tomorrow what goes around comes around? [/QUOTE]Hi LBM,

Yes we go way back and this doesn't make us any younger now does it? LOL.

The only reason why I suggested it was only because I believe (my personal opinion) people come to the Bangkok forum to learn or be up to date about all things related to Bangkok. Same for massages.

Now I don't want to point fingers, that's not the point of this post, but tell me how the below post in any way relates to Bangkok:

[QUOTE] Fauci reports extremely simplified versions of the current scientific understanding of the virus and disease. As more research is conducted, the understanding evolves and improves. Regarding his recommendations for society actions, those recommendations will evolve as the virus grows and (hopefully) shrinks. [/QUOTE]I believe it's ok to stray from time to time, but COVID is a huge topic which I believe deserves it's own space. If I want to discuss Covid in General, in its own thread that is perfectly fine, but when I go to a specific thread (be it BKK, Pattaya, CNX, HKT.) I at least expect the Covid discussions to be somehow related to these places.

As a moderator, it would be very easy to move the COVID discussions if there was such a place, now, there is nowhere to put them. Also, a COVID Thread could have stickies about immigration updates, visa requirements during this pandemic, now the info is so scattered, it's not easy to find also.

I may be wrong, it's just a discussion and an opinion.

Now, since I am in the Bangkok Thread, let's talk mongering. Many shops / bars have closed but the girls are still in business. Some have opened their own LINE accounts where they share their services, photos, and make bookings with their clients. You can visit their room if they have one or they come to you.

I was quoted 2,100 thb for 90 minutes from a slim cutie. (No, sorry but I'm not sharing any contacts if I do not know you. This protects both the girls and myself).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2519423]Hi LBM,

Yes we go way back and this doesn't make us any younger now does it? LOL.

The only reason why I suggested it was only because I believe (my personal opinion) people come to the Bangkok forum to learn or be up to date about all things related to Bangkok. Same for massages.

Now I don't want to point fingers, that's not the point of this post, but tell me how the below post in any way relates to Bangkok:

I believe it's ok to stray from time to time, but COVID is a huge topic which I believe deserves it's own space. If I want to discuss Covid in General, in its own thread that is perfectly fine, but when I go to a specific thread (be it BKK, Pattaya, CNX, HKT.) I at least expect the Covid discussions to be somehow related to these places.

As a moderator, it would be very easy to move the COVID discussions if there was such a place, now, there is nowhere to put them. Also, a COVID Thread could have stickies about immigration updates, visa requirements during this pandemic, now the info is so scattered, it's not easy to find also.

I may be wrong, it's just a discussion and an opinion.

Now, since I am in the Bangkok Thread, let's talk mongering. Many shops / bars have closed but the girls are still in business. Some have opened their own LINE accounts where they share their services, photos, and make bookings with their clients. You can visit their room if they have one or they come to you.

I was quoted 2,100 thb for 90 minutes from a slim cutie. (No, sorry but I'm not sharing any contacts if I do not know you. This protects both the girls and myself).[/QUOTE]I hope I get it right and all of it for you?

As I noted I just go with the flow, a poster posted what you quoted I merely just gave my opinion to his post whether it should or shouldn't have been there.

Yes if you go to the Bangkok post you should read something related to Bangkok but as noted no one ever stays in the topic lane and I mean no one. Sure the moderator can move or start a thread but as I noted based on the history of the moves people still don't follow people, in general, are lazy they aren't going to run down the forum front page and look for Virus discussion example the massage it was split or reorganized it went unused for 8 years until last month so in my opinion, it would just add to the mess and we will in time end up talking about it again and again?

I agree with the statement you quoted that would have been more suited in general or even a private virus thread it not being it kind of proves my point above people are lazy or just don't get it! There is another website that can't mention you talk about people who don't get I've concluded it is just part of life and as you get older the more it shows up.

I can't speak for the poster but the Virus even you noted has affected so much of our lives it has affected the p4 p as never before Bangkok, Pattaya, worldwide it isn't going to go away and it will affect where people even post?

When you look at the ISG Table of content if that is what one is going to call it? It is never going to happen because it wasn't created by a webpage professional to do what you suggest it would need to be completely revamped.

In the end, I just go with the flow! Enjoy keeping those reports coming good luck!

Hey guys,

Just an update, I canceled my trip planned for April 30. The ASQ was going to cost around $1400 USD. When I first was considering the trip I thought it would be less than half that. I should have done more research before booking. Also, the visa requirements and all the hoops I would need to jump through just to (hopefully) be allowed in the country were too much of a logistical nightmare. While certainly doable, my budget and intentions while traveling didn't line up with what reality would be when I arrived. Thanks for weighing in over the past few days. I look forward to catching up in the future! Happy and safe adventures, gentlemen!