[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1231998.
By the way, I am not a Reformed Druid, just Agnostic. .
Slim[/QUOTE]I will wish really hard (almost like praying) for You to see the power of the meatballs of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so also You can become a whole human.
If you change the name of the alpha figure in the sky, this quote could be from a girl in Davao that both me and a friend here on ISG fucked at least twice each. She goes on with all her religious bullshit and even says she has never been with a man or that she has not been with a man since last time she was with me or my friend, depending on who is pumping her at the moment. Total hypocrite that is so crazy she even believes all this shit, even if she will suck down four SML and fuck your brains out later. She is not that pretty either, but has nice firm big tits. First time I did her she was very tight. Do not remember the second that good.
First time I fucked her was after she invited herself to "see my room". I fucked her for some minutes and then she thought it was time to go back to her friends on Torres and brag about her achievement. I did not care. Like the sweet unused smell of her pussy, but did not care for cumming all that much. For some reason I did her bareback and it was like sticking the cock in a jar of marmalade. Dripping down her legs. I tested myself and it was not clam or something that made her drip (that time). Before inviting herself to my room, she twisted both my arms hard to come and meet her friends and share a warm red horse on Torres on the Day of Davao. I was indifferent from many hard days of sex. She paraded me, the only phorigner, in the club like I was some sort of film star, and the cameras went off all the time. All friends where around 22-24 and all girls had a couple of kilos extra, so they where not used to the attention I guess. Maybe that was why she was so eager to walk me back as well."Can I hold your arm like you are my boyfriend?"."Fuck no, this is Torres and god knows who will see Barba here." She held it anyway.
Just a couple of days later she banged my friend and then me again, and actually told me that she only remember that they got drunk but not if they had sex. I met her on DIA and we still chat occasionally, but mostly because she has a teenage friend she considers "her sister", that I want to "get to know better". Let me know if you want to see this plump brainwashed bimbo and I will send you the details I have. Not P4P but rather the dating game. She has a decent job within some finance / admin and never asked for, or received, money from me as I recall. Meet her at your own risk of being fed religious "I am a good girl" crap, before you rip her panties off and fuck her dripping pussy hard. Can be a good spice if you are into these kind of paradoxes.
Happy New Year!
Barba.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?
May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH U[/QUOTE]Filipinas are famous for agreeing to almost everything online. They have many chat conversations at the same time and many fishing lines in the water with guys hoping to land someone. Typically they will agree to things and seem very happy you will visit them. Most are unable or unwilling to upset a guy with the word 'no' since they can't tell at the begining who is serious. Since the vast waters of the asia online dating pool are somewhat murky, with at my best guesstimate around 15% of guys online who are serious and will actually visit the Philippines.
The girls learn quickly that alot of the guys are not serious. Most of the girls will only get excited when you send them a text from a Philippines based SIMcard. Even then most will have to ask again who you are and where you know her from. While some girls will be ready and willing to meet and come to your room at the drop of a hat, very often circumstances are not in your favor.
Expect alot of excuses, 'my mom is sick, I'm sick, I have school work now, we have family emergency, I have OJT work now, no money for jeep, I have period, ect, ect' And the very famous, 'I'm not in Manila. I'm back in the province come here k'. If you have a whole list of contacts that meet your requirements, double or triple it and that's for the big cities. If you travel to places in the province make sure those lists of contacts are big enough to withstand all the excuses, no-shows and girls who will meet you but refuse to go any further.
Some will be more than happy to meet, and it will depends on how good your game is and if you are gwapo or not to get them to your room and into your bed. Again YMMV and some guys will have no problem getting girls and others will struggle. Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1232168]Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.[/QUOTE]Had the best of luck with this very game for many years. For several years, I had exactly one girl agree to a meet / screw, then she backed out at a Starbucks. Two hours later, as I was deep into a different girl, the first girl starts txting the rest of the afternoon that she's changed her mind and wants to come to the room. Other guys would write in here and say they struck out with this and that girl, and I would think: whats wrong with that guy? I was starting to think I should call Brad Pitt and give him some pointers.
Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall, my first date arrives at 11am. With the unannounced friend. As with every girl I meet, she has agreed in advance to the meet / screw. 20 minutes into a latte and chat, I realize its going nowhere. I mention I'm going back to the hotel, and does she want to come with me, or not? She politely declined."We not knowing each other. Need more dating first." I reminded her that we had agreed to quick hotel time."No. You misunderstand me." No need to argue, I thank them for their time. Its 11:30am. Text girl #2, who magically walks up at 11:50am. With her cousin. Couple more lattes, same routine from the girl: "Never did I say to your hotel." Thanks for your time ladies. Thank goodness it was over in 10 minutes. Girl #3 says she'll be there at 1pm, alone, so I walk the mall slowly, not a single look in my direction from anyone ('86' that call to Mr. Pitt). Back after lunch at 1pm, get the usual "Wait me" txts. She shows at 1:35, with another unannounced friend. Two more coffees, this time it took until just after 2pm to get: "No I not say I'm come on your hotel. You not understand when we chatting online." Thanks for your time, ladies. Back to the hotel for a shower, girl #4 says she'll be at starbucks at 4pm. Having a half hour to kill, I go online, look thru my chat transcripts, and email each girl the short section where she agreed to meet / bang. One of the girls even said she could bring her cousin for a threesome. Another gal mentioned wanting to try an adult toy. I'm about to go offline and head back to Starbucks when girl #2 comes online (the one who mentioned wanting a threesome in YM chat). We chat, I tell her to check her email. She does. Swear to god this is what she typed back after reading it: "Yes I said that. I agree then to your hotel. But I did not mean it at that time." Well, the little liar is suddenly very honest. I would get several similar responses in offline msgs over the next several days.
I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1232183]Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall,
I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.[/QUOTE]WC,
I have not visited CDO, [i][b]yet[/b][/i]. I have visited Davao and had the same kind of experince there that you had in CDO. Girls backtracking with multiple strikeouts after meeting. These were girls who promised me action and we chatted for several weeks off and on before my arrival in Davao and made a connection. I thought my list of 10 contacts would be more than enough to get me through a week. Soooo wrong! I can honestly say I have never been so bombarded with requests for me to meet my chatmates in church the following Sunday. I declined the church meet & greets and got most to meet over a coffee. Suddenly all the sex kittens I chatted with had vanished.
I was left with one contact on my list who was running 26, already had a kid and was tall and thin. She seemed nice but no matter what I tried I couldn't close the deal. I took her to dinner and out to a few clubs two nights in a row but still she refused. At that point I just cut my losses and went back to more fertile ground with a bruise on my ego. I paid for my hotel with a reality cheque! The front desk girl at my hotel was surprised I was leaving early and informed me the extra day wouldn't be refunded and I couldn't care less.
I have come up with a new name for these kinds of girls, 'FLASH-BULB-FILIPINAS' or FBF for short. Seems alot of these girls will promise the moon, and have no plans to go through with it. All they desire is bragging rights to friends and family. When you meet, the girl will ask to take a few pics of you and her together. It's a pretty standard thing for filipinas to take a billion pics so it's no big deal but once the pics are taken as a trophy they have no desire to continue the date. They want to rush home and show everyone how cool they are because they met a foreign guy and broadcast the new trophy pics on facebook. I guess it's no different then some of us getting naughty pics from some of these girls as trophies.
Y'all watch for the FBF girls ya hear! ;)
[QUOTE=Pute Nut;1232129]Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.[/QUOTE]Yah, like picking up models with such ease!
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1232205]I have come up with a new name for these kinds of girls, 'FLASH-BULB-FILIPINAS' or FBF for short. Seems alot of these girls will promise the moon, and have no plans to go through with it. All they desire is bragging rights to friends and family. When you meet, the girl will ask to take a few pics of you and her together. It's a pretty standard thing for filipinas to take a billion pics so it's no big deal but once the pics are taken as a trophy they have no desire to continue the date. They want to rush home and show everyone how cool they are because they met a foreign guy and broadcast the new trophy pics on facebook. I guess it's no different then some of us getting naughty pics from some of these girls as trophies.
Y'all watch for the FBF girls ya hear! .[/QUOTE]Interesting. They want pics of you together. I get that sometimes over the first cup of coffee. I don't let them take it with their cam, it always feels uncomfortable to me if we are not together in the room. I tell them we can take pics with my professional camera in the room and I'll email them. That will cut the conversation right there if the girl is not wanting to go to my room. FBF's.
First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.
In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.
I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.
Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.
Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.
After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.
So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.
Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.
My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?
I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.
So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.
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Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.
Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.
Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'
Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?
Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.
But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.
She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.
Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)
She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.
Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?
May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH U[/QUOTE]LOL. Guys I can't stress enough how important it is to talk to these online chicks on cam before you meet. The girl from yesterday was a little cutie pie and had age 24, 5'4" 132lbs in her profile. Not to mention the picture on her yahoo messenger was nice as well. When she turned on the cam I was like what the FUCK! Now I have been known to hit some chicks that most guys would not "admit" to touching. As a matter of fact up until now I was thinking that Mortman should have hit the girl's sister that he recently referred to as a farm animal in the Cebu thread. But now... But now... Man this chick's picture had to be at least 15 years old because she looked to be at least 40 years old and at least 200 lbs. She had more chins than a Chinese phone book. I could just imagine waiting in the lobby of City State for her. I mean I'm a compassionate guy and all, but I would have passed out on the floor if it was the girl in the cam who had shown up in lieu of the girl in the profile photo. Whatever you do, make sure you do a cam check prior is all I can say.
[QUOTE=Maantra; 1232365]First and only post and I start by asking for help. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.
I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time.
I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros.
But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.[/QUOTE]My advice is to save your 8000 pesos and instead just fuck the mom for free and call it a day.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232508]LOL. Guys I can't stress enough how important it is to talk to these online chicks on cam before you meet. The girl from yesterday was a little cutie pie and had age 24, 5'4" 132lbs in her profile. When she turned on the cam I was like what the FUCK! [snip]Man this chick's picture had to be at least 15 years old because she looked to be at least 40 years old and at least 200 lbs. She had more chins than a Chinese phone book. I could just imagine waiting in the lobby of City State for her. I mean I'm a compassionate guy and all, but I would have passed out on the floor if it was the girl in the cam who had shown up in lieu of the girl in the profile photo. Whatever you do, make sure you do a cam check prior is all I can say.[/QUOTE]Basic operating procedure to see the girl you are chatting with on cam. Spend the time to make sure she is indeed someone you are attracted to. That should be the first rule when you are dealing with girls from DIA where only one pic is posted, otherwise you could end up in baboy paradise. Huge red flag if she refuses to come on cam.
If you see her on cam and everything is ok, then ask for her facebook link and go check her out. Spend the time online so you don't have to waste it with girls you don't like.
[QUOTE=Maantra; 1232365]First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.
In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.
I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.
Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.
Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.
After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.
So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.
Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.
My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?
I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.
So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.
* * * * * * * Other facts which I believe to be pertinent: * * * * * * * *
Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.
Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.
Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'
Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?
Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.
But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.
She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.
Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)
She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.
Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?[/QUOTE]Holiday enough would have been FINE. I never pay the girl when I take her traveling. I would have tipped her maybe 2000 on the end for 4-5 days IF she was a performer but thats about it. I am also talking manila girls, where prices are more expensive, most cebu punters will probably say 500-1000 per day is enough.
You are doing a good deed here BUT remember:
1. Nothing is like it seems. Do you think 8K tuition money will be enough? I mean she will still need travel expenses, books and so on.
2. If her family is that poor don't assume money will go to school. I think money will end up in the family budget before she puts it towards education. You may care or may not but I think you should be aware of it.
3. If she has no father and no money she is unlikely to have contacts to threaten your freedom. I think we are all little paranoid and assume thats easily done but its not. You have money and if they start pushing I am sure you will quickly put your money at use and push back. They know that and unless they are a strong family they would not attempt to push you. I would have been more worried if she came from a good family and was in school, her mum dressed up nice and so on. If she is ghetto she wouldn't know or have the means to even work out how to threaten you.
4. Do not visit her place. From here on contact should be with her and her alone. Why would you want to visit if you are not serious? You will just waste your time, money and their time too.
5. Try her out before taking her on holiday. Last thing you want is dramas on a Negros resort or some other place where you will struggle to ditch and replace. I would spend a night with her (give her some of that 8000p for it) and then decide. She may be all nice now but can quickly turn once she realizes there is no competition to her around. Alarm bells should be her dumping the player (what the fuck does that make you?) after one ride and her crying. I never take girls that I haven't been intimate with for a while on trips, its better to do her few times in her city before going anywhere with her. Even then book one night at time in case she looses it you want to get her back home and replace her ass. If you chose to follow only one line from all that I have written make sure its this one. BOOK YOUR ACCOMMODATION ONE DAY AT A TIME.
6. Be aware that she will go back to you for money in few weeks when expenses start to pop out and if she can't afford to pay them she may again drop out of school. I have a girl in manila that is studying nursing and she gets hit with stupid things like red cross and other silly fees from time to time. Red cross or whatever it is is 1500 peso for instance. Hidden fees and expenses is where she will struggle if she has no other means. Again you may or may not care.
[QUOTE=Maantra; 1232365]First and only post and I start by asking for help. I know, bring on the flames.
In my defense, I used to post prolifically on ISG some years back but stopped due to personal security reasons. I am posting this request for advice because I've come to appreciate and respect all of the experience and wisdom displayed by the members on this thread. And I would really like to know what you guys think about my quandary.
I met a girl through DIA last week, very sweet. Very pretty and a nice shy personality. She's 19 and her profile indicated she is just a poor girl and looking for a good man to help her. We chatted by text for a few days and arranged a meet-up at Ayala. She brought her Mom with her which was okay by me cause she asked first.
Over mango shakes we got to know each other and I asked directly what she was looking for on DIA. She replied that she was looking for marriage and a nice guy to take care of her. I responded that I wasn't looking for marriage at this time (says so in my profile which she admitted she hadn't read carefully) but that I would still like to help her if I could. I asked the Mom what her opinion was of me and she said that I met her approval and that 'She trusts me' whatever that means. We parted ways amicably with a promise to meet again later. I offered 200 peso taxi fare so they wouldn't have to take a jeepney home in the rain. When I gave the money to the Mom, she smiled, and slid it over on the table to her daughter with a knowing look.
Three days later I meet her again at Ayala, this time she brings her younger sister (cause she wants to see the gwapo kano) and her cousin. The four of us talk for 5 minutes or so after which her sister and cousin go of to look for a book for school, and she and I proceed to dinner. Over the meal we talk about her past relationships. She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.
After dinner I ask her directly that since I'm not interested in marriage if there was some other way I could help her. Ah, yes, actually she had to stop school for financial reasons. Oh, how sad, well how much is the tuition? 8000 peso per semester, she replied, which, under the right circumstances could be very appropriate I think. Interesting that she didn't hit me with a round number like 10, 000. Of course it lends credence to her request. I have seen her school IDcard. It's definitely her in the photo and it has signatures on the back from the school dean or whoever that indicates she has completed 2 years of a four year course. The plastic IDcard is nice and worn, as it should be after 2 years of use.
So here's what I came up with. I offered to pay 8000 peso for one semester if she agreed to come with me on a 4 day trip to some resort in Bohol or maybe Negros. A lot of money yes but I figure that since her clam has seen only one spear that she deserves a price premium. Plus it's 4 days, so it works out 2000 / day. Her eyes lit up at the trip suggestion and she seemed especially grateful for the offer to pay tuition. It almost seemed like she was ready to come on the trip with me without the tuition offer, but that's not how I want to structure this arrangement. Definitely trying to stay away from relationship / marriage entanglements.
Which brings me to my request for advice: I ran into a couple of old timers in Bohol a while back who warned me about a marriage scam. They said that if a kano gets too close to the family, ie visiting the house and such, especially with girls that are 18-21 or virgins, that the family can go to the police and claim that he promised marriage or some such bullshit. And at that point its the entire family's word against the kano, and we all know who wins in those situations. So the kano is blocked from leaving the country until he pays restitution for impinging the girl's honor.
My question is, is this really a common scam? Is it more prevalent in the provinces, not so much in big city Cebu? Based on my actions as I've posted here, am I exposed to this scam if it exists? Or do I just need to just take a leap of faith, and enjoy this precious flower that has landed at my feet?
I am reminded of a post GoodEnough made on the Davao board a while back. He said something to the effect that there is no way to insure yourself 100% against risk in a country as corrupt as the Phils. The only way to enjoy complete certainty is just to cross the country off your itinerary.
So this is where I'm at guys. I would appreciate any and all replies. Thanks.
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Claims her profile on DIA is only 1 month old and I'm the only kano she has met in person.
Has a MyPhone (Philippines made smartphone) which Mom bought her las month for 1200 peso.
Mom used to work at the Treasury of their local Barangay but quit because 'the money was too low'
Mom was overall friendly during dinner but shot me a couple of questionable glances. Then again, this could just be the face a mother makes when she is pimping out her daughter?
Her father died when she was 4 years old and since then its just been her Mom, sister and 2 brothers.
But she told me Mom is on DIA looking for love too. If you like 'them 40+ with a few extra kilos.
She invited me to ring in the New Year with her family at her home in Mandaue. I declined.
Stats: 19 years 5'1' 42 kilos, outstanding looking rack for a girl her size (doesn't appear to be padded)
She understands that on the trip the sleeping arrangements will not be separate.
Sent me a text asking when was my upcoming trip to Hong Kong that I had previously mentioned. Said her mom wanted to know. Red flag?[/QUOTE]Holiday enough would have been FINE. I never pay the girl when I take her traveling. I would have tipped her maybe 2000 on the end for 4-5 days IF she was a performer but thats about it. I am also talking manila girls, where prices are more expensive, most cebu punters will probably say 500-1000 per day is enough.
You are doing a good deed here BUT remember:
1. Nothing is like it seems. Do you think 8K tuition money will be enough? I mean she will still need travel expenses, books and so on.
2. If her family is that poor don't assume money will go to school. I think money will end up in the family budget before she puts it towards education. You may care or may not but I think you should be aware of it.
3. If she has no father and no money she is unlikely to have contacts to threaten your freedom. I think we are all little paranoid and assume thats easily done but its not. You have money and if they start pushing I am sure you will quickly put your money at use and push back. They know that and unless they are a strong family they would not attempt to push you. I would have been more worried if she came from a good family and was in school, her mum dressed up nice and so on. If she is ghetto she wouldn't know or have the means to even work out how to threaten you.
4. Do not visit her place. From here on contact should be with her and her alone. Why would you want to visit if you are not serious? You will just waste your time, money and their time too.
5. Try her out before taking her on holiday. Last thing you want is dramas on a Negros resort or some other place where you will struggle to ditch and replace. I would spend a night with her (give her some of that 8000p for it) and then decide. She may be all nice now but can quickly turn once she realizes there is no competition to her around. Alarm bells should be her dumping the player (what the fuck does that make you?) after one ride and her crying. I never take girls that I haven't been intimate with for a while on trips, its better to do her few times in her city before going anywhere with her. Even then book one night at time in case she looses it you want to get her back home and replace her ass. If you chose to follow only one line from all that I have written make sure its this one. BOOK YOUR ACCOMMODATION ONE DAY AT A TIME.
6. Be aware that she will go back to you for money in few weeks when expenses start to pop out and if she can't afford to pay them she may again drop out of school. I have a girl in manila that is studying nursing and she gets hit with stupid things like red cross and other silly fees from time to time. Red cross or whatever it is is 1500 peso for instance. Hidden fees and expenses is where she will struggle if she has no other means. Again you may or may not care.
[QUOTE=Maantra;1232365]She has had exactly 1 boyfriend, a Pinoy. During the one month they were together, he took her cherry, after which she dumped him cause he is a player and she didn't like that. Oh, and, she only had sex with this guy one time. So it means this 19 year old with a gorgeous spinner body has had sex exactly one time in her life. And told me she cried after it, of course.[/QUOTE]. And the next 99 times she also cried, but with joy, she forgot to tell you? Sorry, but personally I wouldn't just take that one coitus claim at face value. It could be anything between zero (YES I had one add a fictitious pinoy BF to her story, turned out she was a virgin) and a hundred BFs / fucks in reality. I'd say raise the number to an even 10 thou and take the MILF along.
Maantra. Move on to the next girl. Too much bull shit here. Just having the mom meet you is red flags. None what her mom and her said adds up. I feel a scam comming down.
Just offer 500 to 1000 for sex now do not take this girl on a trip. And use a condom as they can not go to hospital and claim you rapped her or that she is pregnant.