Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]And this last part will sound insane because I'm giving advice about this but it's something I've said before in the past. If you ever stuck in a legal situation in another country it doesn't matter where and you have the opportunity to get out short and quick always take that opportunity, do not ever prolong it, don't try to stand up for what is right it's misguided, you always end up paying more in the end.
[/QUOTE]I think that is great advice anywhere you are.

I have been in CTG twice with my gal, and she is from there. She has issues with her mother, and we passed by her place. I said do you want to say Hi? She said no. Sure enough, someone caught us and posted it on social media, and her mother was tipped off.

Next time we are there, her mother sees us and she texts my gal later. And what does CTG have like a million people, and I am there for like 10 days total? Hell, we ran into three of her friends just being out and about.

My point is if I could not stay anonymous with my gal for 10 days, what was the chances you were seeing all those women, doing all those drugs, and buying them stuff like scooters? It seems like someone was bound to take notice and try to make a play.

I used to go to strip clubs about once a week. I ran into some bouncer type one time that I could not for the life of me place, and he ran through every woman I had been with and what my rep was at a few of the clubs. I was like, "And who the fuck are you?" I am just not sure how anonymous anyone can really be anymore.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615260]That is the point that there is nothing to gain by lying.

Hey, this is not my fight. They are using the translator so L69 could have misunderstood.

The other way to run the scam is to provide a fake ID to an underage girl, then bust the offender in the room with real ID..[/QUOTE]The good ok' switcharoo. A restaurant on the beach in Cartagena got me with this BS. They gave me a menu, I ordered. Then when the tab came out, it was 3 x the price, I asked for the menu again, then they gave me one with 3 x the price of the original menu Jajajja.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, snip

Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.

Suffice is to say that my next Colombia trip will be to Bogota or Cali.

This is why we can't have nice things.[/QUOTE]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.

Hey everyone,

First I wanted to thank everyone for their reports, I feel like I know the area already.

I am visiting Medellin from 10/31 - 11/5.

I picked hotel Duparc because of location but was thinking of switching to energy living, thoughts?

I am 35 lots of tats and have pretty good success in dr picking up local girls in the mall. Is the mall a good spot to get WhatsApp in Medellin?

Is Fase dos or la Isla worth it?

Are the escorts listed online real pics usually, or cat fish?

I am a noobie so any advice you have?

I read online that I can buy a prepaid phone in the airport, is that true? I have a burner phone in the states but not sute if it will work there.

Best clubs to visit? I read gusto and luxury?

I will be sure to post a in depth trip report. I use take me back to Sosua for DR, I promise I will here.

Is mansion worth it? I was going to book 2 nights there so then I have access to it, but I already booked my full stay at Duparc, is that even worth it?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]The sky is always falling according to someone. People have been claiming that Medellin is doomed for as long as I've been on ISG. The same claims happen everywhere over everything. Look at every US election. No matter who wins one group is convinced the world is about to end and another believes it's going to be all puppies and rainbows.

Twenty years ago I was a strip club aficionado. In my favorite local club everyone knew me. I wasn't a big spender, but I was a dependable customer. I was always friendly and polite and treated everyone right. Every now and then some group would come in and make it rain. The newer girls would flock to that table hoping to have a big night. The better dancers mostly kept to their regulars, because they knew that that group wouldn't be back, but the regulars were there every week.

Right now there are crowds making it rain. In another 6 months they'll be throwing their money somewhere else.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]Its sad what's happening in Medellin now. However, I really can't blame the mongers as many other destinations in the world are either closed or not up to their pre-covid standards. I remember my great times in the past in destinations like China, Singapore, Argentina, etc. which in their day attracted numerous hoards of mongers, now all gone well before covid. Will Colombia join the list?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615267]Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't..[/QUOTE]Osteo,

I've told you before, I really do enjoy reading your posts, its entertaining to read about your "over the top" and "on the edge" lifestyle. Personally I don't know you or care about you, and if your behavior leads to your demise, that was your choice, bless you either way. You post very regularly about your reckless behavior and your last adventure almost landed you in jail, but more importantly people who consistently engage in this type of reckless behavior could have a very real impact on how the game is played in Medellin. There is already a strong movement against sex tourism there in the city, you can look up the recent Medellin news clips on youtube. If we all start treating Medellin like its a game of Grand Theft Auto, eventually authorities are going to pay much more attention to the single gringos who are clearly there to take advantage of cheap drugs and prostitutes and have little respect or regard for anything else in the city. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. This is going to just encourage more members / readers / mongers to act like assholes on vacation down there, until it gets to the point the authorities crackdown on prostitution and Medellin turns into Havana. A gringo can't even walk down the street with a girl in Havana without a cop harassing you. It also makes gringos targets, more wreckless gringoes will lead to more predatory scams to shake them down, especially in a poverty stricken nation. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] on the forum, etc.

I sincerely do thank you for sharing the story about your shakedown, that is very valuable information which should be shared and puts a good warning out to other members about the possible dangers of Medellin. I am also being over cautious in my post and I apologize if it comes off as harsh, but I think its very important to state posts like these to remind people that Medellin is a great place, but things can change quickly in just a few years.

If we all play the game safely, the game will be there for us longer and its a safer, cheaper, more enjoyable game to play. You as a player will also last longer. As I have said before, keep your head down and enjoy the ride. The forum should focus on the sharing of information for the safety and enjoyment of us mongers. Not a tool used to contribute to our own demise.[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

I was warned by a moderator before for a similar post. The moderator claimed I am discouraging people from posting. I am not discouraging people from posting, I am promoting monger safety. None of us want to end up in the situation Osteo was in, and it should be stated here for all readers to see. I don't see anything wrong with my post, and hopefully it is allowed to be posted.

I 100% support the interest of many in La Isla, Gustos etc. I have some doubts about how fair it is to complain about big spenders in a business that directly caters to that market segment. I do understand that big spenders have a lot more impact in Lleras / Gustos / LaIsla etc than they do in the gritty world of Centro rats. I recently heard about new restrictions in Lleras aimed at reducing the number of providers. If the restrictions push them back to Plaza Botero or the late night San Diego scene, well so be it.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, but it was not until last week that I saw it with my own eyes. I always travel solo and usually steer clear of other gringos (except when I stayed at the Mansion as a newbie, when the camaraderie was extremely helpful and supportive). My latest choice of lodging. Provenza Lofts. Exposed me to other gringos more than usual.

One of a group of three guys staying there saw the girls that I was having over when I came out to pay the hoes' taxis; he was on the front porch smoking a lot. Apparently they thought that my lineup was unbelievably smoking hot. They seemed to think that I was some sort of James Bond of mongering.

I explained to them that I thought that my lineup for this trip was actually sub-par by Medellin standards, or at least compared to my previous trips. They asked where I was finding girls, as they seemed to think that Parque Lleras, Gusto, and Tinder were the best places to look (facepalm). I warned them to avoid Lleras and Tinder girls for security reasons and to avoid Gusto for price reasons. They were vaguely aware of Facebook as a source of hoes and had no knowledge of typical / historical pricing there.

I ran into them again when I was catching my Uber to La Isla on my last Saturday night. They were aware of Fase II, but I explained to them that La Isla had the best talent in town. Lo and behold, they showed up at La Isla hours later..[/QUOTE]

If you search the comment history of those groups you will find that sort of finger pointing going back 10+ years.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2615306]The street behind the church # 51-30. Hotel Channel. She stands at the bottom. Fake boobs. Pretty face and smile. 5 foot. She would not go to my hotel around the corner and I have bias against using that hotel. Do not remember her asking price.[/QUOTE]All hot girls are in Colombia.

A bit of real talk, those of you who have been here or been coming here since the 90's should know that 2016 FARC peace accord and ceasefire was the inflection point that led to the level of tourism (all types, including punters) that we see today. History will give the liberal administration that preceded Ivan Duque credit for turning around Colombia's image of unbridled terrorism and mayhem and growing in the tourism sector. If you were here during the lockdown you would have seen the increase in disaffected young people joining FARC like groups and FARC like groups engaging in a campaign of assassinations of rural social and political leaders become the number 2 news story behind the pandemic. It was not a story at all in international media. Reports about the severe economic decline caused by the pandemic did show up in the international media. That economic decline continues but now that the pandemic is under better control it is only affecting the lower strata of the population.

In spite of all of this, there has been a noticeable uptick in punter arrivals. It's noticeable even in grimy Centro. In my opinion, the impact is much greater in more upscale and gringo centric venues. In Centro, even though there are many more gringos than in the past, their impact is minimal. The Centro scene and its cost is unchanged in my experience. Now, a prediction. In the run up to the national election there will be an increasing number of the traditional street demonstrations. Several metro and bus routes were disrupted by them yesterday afternoon. This election will be the first (and hopefully the last) with a pandemic in flight. I expect the ongoing economic pressure will ratchet up the intensity and quantity of street demonstrations and possibly riots. I should not have to point out the impact that will have on punter and mainstream tourism. On another front, Colombia's right wing media are propping up its preferred candidates with now familiar demagogic commentary about immigration, race, and poverty.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2615199]Hmmm I've been saying that since after 1999 when I was the only gringo in town, except maybe the Tall man maybe, Lol.

Times change though, either roll with it or move on I guess.

I'll always enjoy Medellin, though it's far from my favorite place anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2615206]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.[/QUOTE]Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.

It's completely unfair to use a broad brush to paint guys as numbnuts. It's true in my case but that doesn't mean it's the case for most others.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2615287]More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

Anyway, stay well and recharge.[/QUOTE]

"Keep the facebook scene a secret"? Is that a sarcastic comment? The facebook scene is about as secret as Lleras girls.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2615206]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2615167]Sorry you went through this man. Thanks for being honest about being extorted by the cops due to your carelessness and complacency. Most guys would be too embarrassed to say anything. You can only tempt the devil so many times without getting caught! And dude WTF is wrong with you? Did your balls drop! You really think he's your "friend" after stealing from you like a punk *****? If you truly believe that he's your friend and you have "police" protection / extortion you are delusional.

We all need to be more diligent and cautious. Based on what I read you gents need to be more selective! Interview interview interview. Only if you vibe with the chica and there's mutual chemistry do you take her back to your place. Watch her like a hawk! Only after a few sessions and trust is established can you let your guard down. Worst case going a few nights without getting laid won't kill you. Or, you can go to a casa or strip club.

Me personally, I have never done neither because I enjoy the hunt just like anyone else. But I'm selective and bang less girls in a month then most of you in a week or a day! LOL. You hardcore "seasoned" mongers can keep your el centro while my pussy ass will stay where I'm familiar amongst people I know. Safety is always more important than pussy. This ain't USA or Europe. This is Colombia, la jungla baby!

[URL]https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/colombia-safety/[/URL][/QUOTE]Clicked the link and read the article seems very familiar.

The author is giving us a list of do's and don'ts after his friend was robbed (x3) last at gunpoint, and he was too, then stabbed.

The author tells us he would still return to Colombia but change his ways.

What's that famous north flowing river in Africa called? Denial.

Could be the addiction some of us here have called Puszy a. K. a. Quim on the cranium.

Maybe all we can do sometimes is to suggest, allude to, or just watch the downward spiral, not unlike seeing a beautiful crack hore get skinnier and waste away as time passes.

What can be done? Pokemon, save 'them all?

You can get an extensive list of do's and don'ts tattooed to your forearm, or committed to memory.

But if your a foreigner in Medellin and can be identified as such from your appearance and language to your dress or mannerisms, You may as well have a neon flashing bullseye target on your back complete with audio that says "yes im a gringo with money or bank card how will you separate me from it ? " LOL.

Famous last words. It won't happen to me - Just keep your head on a swivel- I'm very careful- those other guys are stupid- it is what it is- it won't happen again- it doesn't bother me- I'm in control- just stay positive- I just RTFF. Lol