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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Why would anyone lay out 30k+ to "break" a cherry without inspection?[/QUOTE]
The question should be why would anyone pay to break a cherry in the first place? These girls sell their "cherries" multiple times to various suckers. If you're a new customer technically it's her first time... with you.
This was a peso show I attended back in Feb 2004, I think it was in the old Bird Cage. She counted the coins then after she stood up and let them fall out she counted to make sure every peso came out.
Also a few vintage pics, plus the vintage ass shot.
Razzorr
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Something like this? From the Red Baron circa 1985.
Miss those good old days.
Slim[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Well, there are plenty of mongers out there who will pay 50k Pesos and up to pop a cherry.
These girls know that.
Furthermore, for some of these girls, it is the only thing of value that they have. They are otherwise dirt poor.
So if you pop it, then you are depriving someone who is really poor of probably the only chance they will ever have of seeing that sort of money (at one time) in their entire lives.
That money would be the wages of a shop assistant in SM Mall for a year.
Think about it - if you had something worth one year of your wages and someone stuck a finger in it and made it almost worthless in comparison, would you not want the person that stuck their finger in to pay you for the damage?
It is only a scam if they really are not virgins at the time.
Oh, and even if you had to pay the 50k peso - that is not that bad a price for a virgin really. Just imagine what you would have to pay back home...as many guys here who married 'em found out to their cost.
Now THERE'S a scam for you - marriage. LOL.
Member 1319 - The Phils is not a tipping culture, but if you tip 20P it is appreciated. If you tip less, nobody gets upset in most bars, and if they do, move on - there are plenty out there. Also, if you go to a bar regularly and the waitress 'helps' you find ladies not on their mens and not cherry girls, they obviously deserve something extra. If a waitress or mamasan helps you select a lady, then that may save you many pesos and much time. You can also buy nuts and sweets for them from the vendors in the bars (20P), if you have a regular bar and a very helpful waitress or mamasan who makes sure you are not led astray, you can also buy cheap presents from the roadside stalls as well.
The buckets of balls are meant to be purchased for (300P usually) throwing at the girls - they get some P for every ball they catch, so the 'fun' is watching them scrabble for the balls for 20 seconds or so. I don't waste my time since I figure I can get more than 20 seconds of fun per 300P spent elsewhere - but whatever floats your boat. If you try it, you might like it.[/QUOTE]
RM, very well said. I can imagine you are very successful in gaining favorable attention from the girls, as with little gifts and an understanding of their culture (your comments on Cherry Girls in particular) they appreciate your company. It does not take much to make them happy and if one acts like a gentleman all is available to him.
My personal experience is that if a girl is saying she is cherry and is not, it is because she does not want to barfine or boom boom. I've not found in the reputable bars girls trying to run the scam on getting 50K p for selling what they no longer have. While busting cherries holds no interest to me, even if free, generally a true cherry negotiation is somewhat protracted as the girl is shy and the mamasan is heavily involved in the negotiation, and probably will accompany the girl her first time.
So many on the forum get wrapped up in worrying about getting scamed, when in fact in the largest majority the cherry girls are the ones that get scamed. Feigning love or getting them drunk, there is a whole class of men out there who pride themselves on how many cherry girls they can get for free. As RM said so well, the most prized possession many of these girls have is their cherry and the 50kp they may request (about $1,000 U.S.) is the most money they will probably see at one time in their life. That amount would not buy a night with working girl in Vegas, and here in PH one is getting probably an 18 year old virgin. There are guys blowing themselves up in Palestine for that privelage. I have no use for the cheap low life's that pride themselves on getting something for nothing and there are many more of them than the few girls that may be running a "fake cherry" scam.
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]G'day
Anyone know if this Hotel is ok, good location etc (4th St. Josefa Subd) - [url]http://www.redtuliphotel.com/[/url]
The prices look ok...but I've been conned a few times with internet photos of rooms ;)
Any feedback welcome.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I would suggest not! I don't know it in particular, but where it is and from the pictures, I am going to guess AC, hotwater or even a toilet are optional. The insects are probably free. For budget minded try the Perimeter hotel above emotions or the walkabout hotel on Fields. There is also anoter called Savanah (spelling?) that many have said is good, its about a block off of Perimeter road. At least with these you are in the center of the perimeter road or fields street action. There are numerous other budget hotels on fields or perimeter road. Look for hotels with Perimeter road, Fields or Don Juico addresses.
[QUOTE=Infamous1]Ok-So, I'm going to be spending New Year's in Angeles City. Any recommendations on the best places to go? I've been reading that many working chicas go home for the holidays. Is that true?
Is anyone else going to be in Angeles City for New Year's, I'm traveling with a friend, we can arrange a meetup.[/QUOTE]
Tourism is down this year, so regardless of how many go home, there will be more than enough to choose from. So many bars are empty of customers right now, it is definitly a buyers market. Most bars are open on New Years day, while many closed for Christmas day. Other than that, all bars will be open and all will be stocked with girls.
There are so many bars to choose from and they are all on one street, for the most part. You will see when you come here, you only need to walk down the street. Although the same long street, there are primarily two sections. The Fields avenue bars, tend to be higher priced show bars. Going in the opposite direction on the same street are the Perimeter road bars. I prefer the later as the direct contact with girls is better and prices are more reasonable, but would suggest any new visitor go to both ends of the street.
Preferring Perimeter road, I would recommend Stampede, Eruption, Emotions. Smaller but good bars are Cherries, Dr. Holmes, Touch of Class, Honey Ko, Candy bar, Foxy, Nasty Duck. But everyone has their special bars and regulars would have even further suggestions. 50p on a trike will take you to any bar or section, all the trike drivers know the names of the bars, you only have to tell them which one you want.
[QUOTE=Matius]I would suggest not! I don't know it in particular, but where it is and from the pictures, I am going to guess AC, hotwater or even a toilet are optional. The insects are probably free. For budget minded try the Perimeter hotel above emotions or the walkabout hotel on Fields. There is also anoter called Savanah (spelling?) that many have said is good, its about a block off of Perimeter road. At least with these you are in the center of the perimeter road or fields street action. There are numerous other budget hotels on fields or perimeter road. Look for hotels with Perimeter road, Fields or Don Juico addresses.[/QUOTE]Spelling is savannah maybe a little pricey for a budget minded traveler. But very nice rooms. You can find more information on it in the AC hotel section.
[QUOTE=Matius] It does not take much to make them happy and if one acts like a gentleman all is available to him.
My personal experience is that if a girl is saying she is cherry and is not, it is because she does not want to barfine or boom boom. I've not found in the reputable bars girls trying to run the scam on getting 50K p for selling what they no longer have. While busting cherries holds no interest to me, even if free, generally a true cherry negotiation is somewhat protracted as the girl is shy and the mamasan is heavily involved in the negotiation, and probably will accompany the girl her first time.
So many on the forum get wrapped up in worrying about getting scamed, when in fact in the largest majority the cherry girls are the ones that get scamed. Feigning love or getting them drunk, there is a whole class of men out there who pride themselves on how many cherry girls they can get for free. [/QUOTE]
I guess the point I would add here is just to think that if a girl is duped/scammed out of her cherry for nothing, how would any of us blame her for trying to return the favour, and scam as much as she can out of customers?
Those who complain about runners, lady drink scams, cherry girl scams, internet scams and so on, might like to think that part of that scamming attitude comes from the scams that the girls have done to them by some mongers.
Treat the ladies with a little respect - many of them are trying very hard to please and it is not an easy job - and they will generally respond positively.
Treat them like ho's and they will treat you like, er, 'clients'.
Spent a lovely Christmas midday at the Beergarden, lower end of Fields. Upon leaving for home, Earasia Hotel, some individual tried his level best to hospitalize myself and my lovely girl with a well aimed dynamite stick...exploded between my toes lol. Those in the vicinity screamed in terror. Take care gentlemen, some of our mongering buddies are up to no good out there.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Treat them like ho's and they will treat you like, er, 'clients'.[/QUOTE]Too right you are, Rubberyman. Lest we forget, these girls are made of the same stuff we are: hopes, dreams, and a desire for happiness in their lives.
Just because they are so readily and easily available, we shouldn't treat them with any less kindness and respect than we would want ourselves.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'd love to know the answer to this? When I guy pays for the cherry does he get to inspect the hymen before purchase?[/QUOTE]
A bit off , but information for all about Cherry girls in AC
Cherry girls (aka virgins) are marked with a RED "V" on their license/I.D.
They are required to under go an "exam" every 90 days. It is not outside of the realm of possibilities that a girl could slip under the radar and "mistakenly" be marked as a cherry girl and not be. It is also possible that a girl could "slip" some money to the examiner to retain her status (but in 6 years of living here, i can say that I have only heard of it happening 2 times).
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]G'day
Anyone know if this Hotel is ok, good location etc (4th St. Josefa Subd) - [url]http://www.redtuliphotel.com/[/url]
The prices look ok...but I've been conned a few times with internet photos of rooms ;)
Any feedback welcome.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Rooms are decent. Basic is how i would put/explain them.
The biggest draw back is the hotels location. Its very off the beaten track (with many other hotels in that price range that are in better locations). I stayed there for 2 nights about a year or so ago, it was hard as hell to get a trike (forget about using a jeepney, as you would have to walk through a locals subdivision area to get to the main road and at night its NOT advisable).
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Gentlemen:
somehow a little strange! The hotels in AC are (almost) fully booked, but I see hardly any customers in the bars! Folks, where are you? :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
I was just wondering that myself? I had heard that many hotels were booked, but my buddy was able to get into Phoenix with pretty short notice.
I was in Shooterz on lower Fields around 11pm on a Wednesday night, with 2 other paying customers! That was my 3rd time in Shooterz and each time, its empty, but good selection of girls.
How some of these clubs will stay in biz in 2010 is beyond me?
Talked to a few mama sans at some perimeter bars and they were telling me its more like "All saints day" than Christmas...very slow.
Nice selection of ladies for us guys that are here or intend to visit.
[QUOTE=Frank4220]I was just wondering that myself? I had heard that many hotels were booked, but my buddy was able to get into Phoenix with pretty short notice.
I was in Shooterz on lower Fields around 11pm on a Wednesday night, with 2 other paying customers! That was my 3rd time in Shooterz and each time, its empty, but good selection of girls.
How some of these clubs will stay in biz in 2010 is beyond me?
Talked to a few mama sans at some perimeter bars and they were telling me its more like "All saints day" than Christmas...very slow.
Nice selection of ladies for us guys that are here or intend to visit.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure the hotels are as full as is being rumoured on the streets. Certainly agree Fields avenue in general is like a ghost town for lack of tourists. The bars though, are full of girls. More than a few of the more savey visitors are taking advantage, see them acquiring four or five girls at a time. Further good news is that most girls will have sent every last peso they have back to the family for Christmas. Rice money will be a priority and if ever there was a time to get on a plane and come to Angeles it is now. Thousands of girls and very few customers to compete with.
Agree that Shooters has a good line up of girls, but the same owner has Car Wash (next door to shooters), Body Shop and Roadies (on Perimeter Road). His selection is pretty good in all his bars. The story though is the same at most of the bars, lots of quality girls and very few customers. Christmas is past (very few bars open on that day) and all the bars are open, and most are open on Jan 1.
[QUOTE=Matius]I am not sure the hotels are as full as is being rumoured on the streets. Certainly agree Fields avenue in general is like a ghost town for lack of tourists. The bars though, are full of girls. More than a few of the more savey visitors are taking advantage, see them acquiring four or five girls at a time. Further good news is that most girls will have sent every last peso they have back to the family for Christmas. Rice money will be a priority and if ever there was a time to get on a plane and come to Angeles it is now. Thousands of girls and very few customers to compete with.
Agree that Shooters has a good line up of girls, but the same owner has Car Wash (next door to shooters), Body Shop and Roadies (on Perimeter Road). His selection is pretty good in all his bars. The story though is the same at most of the bars, lots of quality girls and very few customers. Christmas is past (very few bars open on that day) and all the bars are open, and most are open on Jan 1.[/QUOTE]
Actually now might be the best time to stay away from Fields Avenue. If enough mongers maintain the boycott the high priced bars will fold. Like the US and Dubai real estate markets AC is overdue for a price correction.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Actually now might be the best time to stay away from Fields Avenue. If enough mongers maintain the boycott the high priced bars will fold. Like the US and Dubai real estate markets AC is overdue for a price correction.[/QUOTE]
On the other hand, the bars might just fold completely and then the girls will not have a focus place far enough for their provinces to go to to make pisos.
I too, am puzzled by the high room bookings and apparent smaller numbers of mongers in some bars. I was there a few weeks ago and can confirm that the hotel I was at was refusing people off the streets. I heard the front desk saying that over the telephone and in person to people as I was going to and from my room.
I must admit although I thought the monger numbers were a little down, but not enough to make a difference. Perhaps it is the bigger number of bars open rather than less mongers. Those bars at the McDonalds end of Fields can hold a lot of guys, and even if it means four or five less clients in the smaller bars it might make it feel less busy.
I am voting with my feet anyhow - next trip in March airfares booked.
I sort of understand your idea about more realistic pricing. However, there are many more unrealistic priced places in the world (Home here for instance). I figure it is better to avoid the high priced hookers in the world (US, UK, Aust, Europe) as they are already spoiled by dumbasses willing to pay a fortune for crap service. In AC there are still places that provide a good GFE for a price that I figure is good allowing for inflation etc etc.
So probably better to go to AC, avoid the high end places (other than for the shows which I find sort of entertaining) for barfines and Lady Drinks, and support those bars that provide reasonable prices - they seem to be hurting a little bit, so why not reward them for the reasonable prices?