Vienna

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2784275]There are some minor changes coming to the prostitution law in Vienna which will affect mostly advertisement in the regional sex catalogues like Booksusi and all the others.

no more advertisement of sex without condom will be officially found.

[/QUOTE]Is this meant for advertisement only. Or is it meant as a move toward no sex without condom? I. e. No more BBBJs? Or advertisement of BBBJs only?

If I'm not mistaken Germany implemented a condom always policy a few years before the pandemic. And it only gave the girls at the FKKs an excuse to jack up their prices.

[QUOTE=MikeMark;2784428]Is this meant for advertisement only. Or is it meant as a move toward no sex without condom? I. e. No more BBBJs? Or advertisement of BBBJs only?

If I'm not mistaken Germany implemented a condom always policy a few years before the pandemic. And it only gave the girls at the FKKs an excuse to jack up their prices.[/QUOTE]I really hope this does not happen, if there are condom only blowjobs in Austria that would suck. Austria was a legal haven, however, the girls already upsell for this so I don't see any change there.

[QUOTE=MikeMark;2784428]Is this meant for advertisement only. Or is it meant as a move toward no sex without condom? I. e. No more BBBJs? Or advertisement of BBBJs only?

If I'm not mistaken Germany implemented a condom always policy a few years before the pandemic. And it only gave the girls at the FKKs an excuse to jack up their prices.[/QUOTE]Advertisement only. Sex without condom is still going to be allowed for the time being. And so far this is only valid for Vienna and Upper Austria where it has been like that for a decade or so already.

So, right now this is not at all like the "condom mandate" = Kondompflicht that Germany implemented in 2017. As usual Austria is doing its own thing. In that case it is Vienna, though, that is doing its own thing. It is to please or appease the Vienna police that has put pressure on politics to make the changes in order to have a better handle on sex catalogues like Booksusi which have been doing a lot of rogue advertising in recent years to the detriment of legal clubs and organisations.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2784604]Advertisement only. Sex without condom is still going to be allowed for the time being. And so far this is only valid for Vienna and Upper Austria where it has been like that for a decade or so already.

So, right now this is not at all like the "condom mandate" = Kondompflicht that Germany implemented in 2017. As usual Austria is doing its own thing. In that case it is Vienna, though, that is doing its own thing. It is to please or appease the Vienna police that has put pressure on politics to make the changes in order to have a better handle on sex catalogues like Booksusi which have been doing a lot of rogue advertising in recent years to the detriment of legal clubs and organisations.[/QUOTE]I wonder how this will affect individual studios? I can't think of a studio (in my limited experience) that didn't have BB options if you're inclined to partake. Like a lot of you, I participate in the Germany forums. Even though their law has been in place since 2017, those services are available if you know where to look. Posters generally have developed a discipline of discretion when posting.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2784832]I wonder how this will affect individual studios? I can't think of a studio (in my limited experience) that didn't have BB options if you're inclined to partake. Like a lot of you, I participate in the Germany forums. Even though their law has been in place since 2017, those services are available if you know where to look. Posters generally have developed a discipline of discretion when posting.[/QUOTE]I don't see this having a considerable effect on studios or clubs or agencies. I also see this as a direct measure to fight illegal prostitution and probably also human trafficking. This just prohibits advertising of such services. Of course I am curious to see with what Codewords forum users will come up in the end.

I absolutely love Vienna and had not visited in years so I decided to checkout some of the local establishments to see how Vienna is in 2023. I will share that I stayed at the LE Meridien and was quite impressed. I also had lunch at a place around the corner from the hotel called Burg Ring and it was awesome.

My first stop was a return visit to Goldentime. On my first visit several years ago I took whatever train they have back and forth from my hotel and walked a few blocks to the sauna club. Older, wiser and less frugal today, I paid $15 euros for an uber door to door. On that first visit to Vienna I found one Romanian girl and repeated with her numerous times over two days until I was exhausted. I never visited any other place in Vienna on that trip. This night, I was going to visit Goldentime but there were other places I had to explore.

Upon arriving at Goldentime, I paid the $95 euros entry fee. I do think it is a little steep, but it does keep the place focused on men willing to pay for service. After I changed and headed towards the bar, I noticed a lot of girls laying around and looking very bored. My first look at the talent did not get me too excited. Of course I was immediately attacked by the sharks. Same shit. What's your name? Where are you from? Have you been here before? How long are you staying? Of course we love it when the hot ones approach us but it is never the hot ones. It is always the girls that we would never think to be with that are right in our face with the questions. I very politely reminded the girls that I just entered the club, want something to drink and want to look around the club after I eat something.

As for the talent at Goldentime, sadly it was not very good but I did find one lady that was sitting next to me at the bar eating her dinner. She watched as I repeatedly got attacked and then made some comment that made me laugh. We made a few minutes of conversation and moments later we were on our way to a room. This girl normally would not be my type given that she was covered in ink, but she had a pretty face and nice body. In the room she was absolutely amazing! Her initial ask of me was $100 euros for 30 minutes and she wanted $50 euros extra for owo.

After an hour at Goldentime I decided to get an Uber to Babylon. I have wanted to go to this place for years! Who wouldn't after watching those girls in their youtube video. I have read the place is pricey, but if they have super models there, I did not care. I got dropped off at the front door and was immediately greeted by a friendly gentleman in a suit who politely explained how the club worked. As I recall, it is $150 euros entry. If you take a girl to a room it is $600 euros for the first hour and $200 euros for each additional hour. If you do take a girl, the entry fee is waived. If you do not take a girl, you pay upon exit. I entered the bar area which was lavishly decorated and ordered a drink. Surrounding me were about 6-8 girls with their eyes pinned on me. If anyone has been to Aphrodisia in Zurich, it was very much the same. Unfortunately, while the girls were attractive, none of them were worth $600 euros. To me, a girl has to be smoking hot to pay that after just coming from Goldentime and paying $150. I was in and out of Babylon in 10 minutes. I told them it was not for me, tipped them on the way out and was off to Beverly Hills.

Beverly Hills is a strip club a block from Babylon. As I entered, I was greeted by some Armenian guy that didn't speak english. He knew enough english to ask me for money, but when I asked how many girls were working he could not answer. Within a few minutes another gentlemen approached me that spoke perfect english. He immediately started rattling off prices to me that had me walking back towards the door. So here it is, about 10:30 pm and the place is completely empty, there are about 5 girls and they are telling me the girls only drink champagne at $95/ bottle? Now had the knuckleheads invited me in and showed me a few girls that were 10's I might have stayed and spent some money, but they were talking me out of spending money and have me out the door. The club was dead. Club owners just do not see how the guys at the front drive away good customers with their stupidity.

For my last stop, I made a quick walk over to Baroq. I had read some stuff on this club but I really wasn't expecting it to be that bad. Some Serbian guy answers the door and asks for $25 euros for cover charge. He tells me there are 8 girls working. I decide to wtf it and paid him so I could go in and check it out. The bar is very small and the club was nicely decorated but extremely small. The club was empty of customers with the exception of me. It was bad! I noticed about 6 girls sitting down together looking bored out of their minds, one girl dancing and another girl sitting at the bar. Two women that appeared to be running the jointed offered me a drink. They told me that the girl sitting at the bar was the only girl available to take to a room and the charge would be $350 euros for an hour. They said the other girls were available for a private dance and it was $50 euros for 5 minutes. In my Marcus Lemonis moment, I politely told them why their club was totally empty of customers at 11 pm. One of the managers told me that all of the strip clubs in Miami charge $50 per dance and that is why they charge $50 euros. When I asked her to name one club, she replied Seven. Knowing Miami like the back of my hand, I politely tell her that the club is E11 EVEN and they charge 3 for $100 in a private curtained space. I told her they were the only club other than their new sister club that charged that much. I also shared that the club is packed most nights of the week and they can charge that much. I explained that her club is empty and guys are not lined down the street to get in. Clearly not a Harvard MBA, this lady went on about how clubs charge differently in Vienna than they do in the US. Since there were absolutely no beauties are Baroq and absolutely no reason to stay in this empty club, I quickly finished my beer and walked out the door thinking the place would close by the end of the year unless it is just being used by its owners to launder money. On the way out the Serbian guy told me that they do get customers in between 3 am and 5 am when the other clubs close.

Everything is kind of messed up in January and February in Vienna. I say that in defense of Babylon. Beverly Hills and Baroq are not worth your time if you are looking for a good lay at any time of the year.

Also, I don't know what you expected, tbh. Strip joints are not relevant in Vienna because you have legal brothels everywhere. That comment is in regards to Beverly and as far as Baroq is concerned, let's say: money can't buy you wisdom. Aka Blue Velvet was never a club worth mentioning despite its fantastic position right in the middle of everything. And after a year of reopening and rebranding it is obvious that it is better to look elsewhere.

Goldentime yes.

Babylon yes, from March.

Maxim from March.

And things will be fine again.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2785596]This girl normally would not be my type given that she was covered in ink, but she had a pretty face and nice body. In the room she was absolutely amazing! Her initial ask of me was $100 euros for 30 minutes and she wanted $50 euros extra for owo.
[/QUOTE]Good report!

If you are happy with the end result, it is great. However, just for the sake of being very accurate, the girls at GT are not supposed to ask 50 for OWO. There is an agreement among them and management that in 100 for half an hour it shall be included and the package's name is "Girlfriend lovely". As dumb as this sounds, if you tell them about it, they know what it is. It is management's attempt to keep things in line. Because usually half an hour is supposed to cost 70, only, as we all know. If she was amazing, all is fair and square anyway.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2785996]Everything is kind of messed up in January and February in Vienna. I say that in defense of Babylon. Beverly Hills and Baroq are not worth your time if you are looking for a good lay at any time of the year.

Also, I don't know what you expected, tbh. Strip joints are not relevant in Vienna because you have legal brothels everywhere. That comment is in regards to Beverly and as far as Baroq is concerned, let's say: money can't buy you wisdom. Aka Blue Velvet was never a club worth mentioning despite its fantastic position right in the middle of everything. And after a year of reopening and rebranding it is obvious that it is better to look elsewhere.

Goldentime yes.

Babylon yes, from March.

Maxim from March.

And things will be fine again.[/QUOTE]Are the girls still on holiday?

Will be in Vienna in March looking for suggestions on good brothel and hotel 3-5 star within walking distance of brothel any help appreciate thank you.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2786091]Are the girls still on holiday?[/QUOTE]In my experience the majority of girls who don't permanently live here are on vacation a good part of January. In February they tend to come back constantly and very often the biggest lineup of the year in the bigger clubs is in the end of February.

Hi,

Am coming to VIE next month. Have contacted a girl from Seeking, but have not discuused finances -- as she doesn't want to.

She will be available when I in over there -- for about 7 days -- of course, I will take care of all costs, shopping etc.

What is the appropriate donation -- in this scenario (iunderstand it can vary -- but what's appropriate in WEIN).

Thanks.

The first part of the overdue renovation of the Maxim club seems to be done and it is definitely an improvement already. They removed the unnecessary bar in the back and put new couches there and improved on the overall look of that area. There's probably more to come but what's there now is comfy, however only for those with bottle service.

The lineup last weekend was good and overall girls seemed very excited that the owners are investing again.

Best looking girl was clearly Tiffany with Lena missing and Bella still not back. Mandy was probably the 2nd most beautiful if you like it a bit darker toned.

All in all very promising but remains to be seen if the current girls will survive the very slow February. The city was super empty except for the main shopping streets Kärntnerstraße and Mariahilfer Straße.

If anyone is wondering how Baroq is doing, the overall tenor is that they are in very bad shape all across the board. Chatted with some guys who went to all of the main clubs in the center that day and Baroq was by far the one that disappointed the most.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2785996]
Goldentime yes.

Babylon yes, from March.

Maxim from March.

And things will be fine again.[/QUOTE]How do these clubs compare to Germany FKKs?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2790013]How do these clubs compare to Germany FKKs?[/QUOTE]They don't compare and don't want to compare to FKKs except for Goldentime, obviously.

FKKs don't do well in Austria with 2 - 3 exceptions as I said on dozens of occasions before.