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Hey Man

[QUOTE=Ortos]
Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread for any long, drawn out discussion on whether or not reports should include names. Maybe we should continue it in e.g. the General section.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!!

[QUOTE=Ortos]Hi Dedalus,

First, I am not trying to "clobber" anybody. I have graditude towards all who post here, even if some essential details are left out... However, if by "good physical description" you mean something like: Tall, thin, leggy and long dark hair, this will be of limited use in identifying a girl at, say, World, right? [/QUOTE]

Hehehe. You might be surprised. World still has a good line-up, but a significant batch of the vampire coterie ain't all that "tall, thin and leggy" these days. Your not gonna find many of them hanging out at Planet Fitness, but they can be seen lining up at both ends of the food buffet.


[QUOTE=Ortos]
A name is much, much more usefull. Sure they change names now and then, so do I :). But names + good details about the girl's physical attributes are what good reports are all about, in my book. I guess I'm in the minority. So be it...
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I agree that a name is useful, just not sure how MUCH more useful. Not unless you are going up to every girl and asking, "Excuse me, Sexy, but is your name Gretchen? Man, I've been reading sooo much about a girl named Gretchen who you're the exact image of. According to every nutjub on the Internet, Gretchen sure can wake the dead with her blowjob skills. Is that you, sugar pie?"

Well, everyone has their own style ;-))


[QUOTE=Ortos]
It is one thing to write a report and not include the names because you can't remember them (although when you are reporting live from the club when you are literally just out of the Zimmer...and you can't remember a name???).
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Have I been guilty of that? I can't remember...

[QUOTE=Ortos]
It is another thing to write a report and describe how fantastic a given girl's performance is (or conversely, how horrible the performance is) and withold the name because you want to the readers to play some kind of guessing game, or you just want everybody to die of envy or something. Do you agree?

Now I am NOT accusing Breadman of this. He says he can't remember the names, fair enough. I've met the man once or twice and found him to be an honourable gentelman of great integrity, so I have no doubt that he is honest when he says he doesn't remember. I must have misinterpreted his post, cause it sounded like he was dangling out these great session girls, but not giving the names for some unknown reason.
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Yeah..., I just didn't read any of that into his post. I do know what you are talking about though, and I have seen it in the ramblings of others, who funnily enough have escaped any criticism for it.


[QUOTE=Ortos]

Well, when I read this:

...I wonder if "my recent comments" are not somewhat justified. But you seem not to agree, my dear friend, Dedalus?
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In this case, I'm afraid not. I get where Breadman is coming from. He like myself has been doing this for a lot of years now. So have you, BTW, my friend. I still enjoy the hobby, but there is indeed a "hunt" and a little gaming that has made it more fun over the last few years. Also, to be blunt, I rarely get a tip via this board these days that hits my sweet-spot, both in terms of performance and optics. HB throws me a bone now and then (he and I, it turns out have many similar tastes, and he has probably the best handle on the current Hessen scene than anyone) but I enjoy discovery as much as any explorer. In the end, my instincts usually help me out more than a list of names from the board.

This is not to say that I don't value name lists and reports. Keep 'em coming there, Ace.


[QUOTE=Ortos]

Let us not forget there are those --and again I am not pointing a finger at anyone, esp. not at the honourable Breadman-- who either create fictious reports about non-existant girls or who definitely like to brag about their exploits without sharing the details just to give themselves, I don't know, some sense of superiority or whatever. You will yourself recall some jerk named Fred on another board whose distinctly irritating MO was to write reports with glowing reports of FKK girls (and his own Superman-stud performances) but would purposely leave out the names (or give cryptic references that only one or two of his hand-picked inner-circle could understand.). I was just trying to pre-empt this type of thing happening here.
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Hehehe. Absolutely no argument on THAT score, my friend. Still, whatcha gonna do? There are some fruitcakes who play this game. Goes with the territory. Luckily, they are relatively easy to spot.

BTW, you should have seen the one-armed push-ups I was doing with Sunny at LR earlier today. Lord have mercy, was I good! ;-))

[QUOTE=Ortos]
Thanks for your views on this. Diversity of opinion is what makes us all wiser and stronger in the end.
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Back at ya, Man!

Cheers,

Dedalus

What you need is a NAME plus a decent description of the girl. Period.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]What you need is a NAME plus a decent description of the girl. Period.

HB[/QUOTE]

I know some German and Dutch boards where Clubs have a General Topic and Girls have a more specific Topic (name/length/color hair/ etc).

This info is very much appreciated since it is relevant info. In the General Club Topic the most appreciated and relevant info is the list of the Girls Present (clearly only those that visit a Club almost weekly can provide such a list).

Having said this. Yes we all have our different opinions and taste that is true. I also can agree with the statement that a Club visit is a bit like a hunting game.

I believe in a board that gives relevant info for this Hunting game not in a board that gives confusing info or only some general club descriptions that most members will already know.

B30

[quote=big30]i believe in a board that gives relevant info for this hunting game not in a board that gives confusing info or only some general club descriptions that most members will already know.

b30[/quote]couldn't agree more!

also i do believe that reports should include names if possible. i'm just not convinced that a report is necessarily useless if no names are present.

also i'm not sure how confusing a report like the one written by breadman really is. it is certainly just as valid as a description of how the ice in a urinal melts when it is peed upon.

interestingly enough, i met two new girls today/tonight at world without any prior lists, board study, etc. both were excellent. both were the result of a little "hunting." well, to tell the truth, eva actually hunted me down. no complaints from my end though.

@ hb
sure names and a good description are important. but you tell me: suppose you happen to be at oase and a cute romy who looks similar to a reported miss so-and-so catches your eye for the first time. you saunter up to her, say "hallo baby", get a good freak vibe and the chemie is sizzilin'. then, it turns out she's actually not the reported miss so-and-so, but a different girl. are you gonna walk away?

maybe breadman's point isn't to be shady or confusing. maybe it has more to do with inspiring gents to trust their instincts, develop and hone some people skills so they they can eventually present some new dishes to the isg table rather than alot of the rehashed stuff that occupies many of these threads.

plus, some of us enjoy and even need these games to keep the hobby interesting ;-))

cheers,

dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus]@ HB
Sure names and a good description are important. But you tell me: Suppose you happen to be at Oase and a cute Romy who looks similar to a reported Miss So-and-So catches your eye for the first time. You saunter up to her, say "Hallo Baby", get a good freak vibe and the Chemie is sizzilin'. Then, it turns out she's actually not the reported Miss So-and-So, but a different girl. Are you gonna walk away?[/QUOTE]

The names and descriptions are not for me. I don't need the reports on ISG or Lustscout. I do know my way around most clubs and I do feel if a session will be good or not. I might choose an unknown girl although I know it'll end up a mediocre session because of her looks.

It's for others here on the board who do want to profit from reading the reports. And they do need names and descriptions, I'll stick with that.

HB

Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?

I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.

Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?

Anywhere in the country is OK.

From an amateur point of view:

For those of us who, like me, only have the opportunity to visit Germany and their club a few times a year, women's names in the reviews are important.
Not always to find the best women, but to steer away from the worst of the sharks. I do not want to waste any of my few precious sessions on a bad provider.

To me who is new to the game, ISG has been (and are) a gold mine. I have had enormous advantage of reading this forum. Without the ISG, I would probably never have dared to do my first FKK-visit.

I understand if not everyone wants to give out the names every time. The names are not everything, but they are of great importance.

Anyway, I am a novice in this area and I am grateful for all the people who write at the ISG (names or no names), and provides me with new information every day.

Thanks!

T

[QUOTE=Blourghus]Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?
I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.
Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?

Anywhere in the country is OK.[/QUOTE]

Francesca, german, is about 1,85m, works at Golden Time. Mia from Croacia is about that tall as well, used to work at Oase but not sure if she is still there.

[QUOTE=Travelerb69]Francesca, german, is about 1,85m, works at Golden Time. Mia from Croacia is about that tall as well, used to work at Oase but not sure if she is still there.[/QUOTE]

Hey,

Another tall one is Eva at World. Actually a little taller that Franni. Close to 1.9M without heels. Pretty good performer too.

Have not seen Franni for some time now. If she is still working, the I can't recommend her enough.

Cheers,

Dedalus, also a fan of the tall ones

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Couldn't agree more!

Also I DO believe that reports should include names if possible. I'm just not convinced that a report is necessarily useless if no names are present.

Plus, some of us enjoy and even need these games to keep the hobby interesting ;-))

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]

Nothing to ad, I agree.

Relevant info OK, but what I do not like is men walking around with a printed list of reports of the girls asking all the girls "are you Maria, are you Denise etc."

We also should not overestimate reports or better said opinions. Taste and preferences can differ. Some like it hot some like it cool ... .

B30

The way I look at it, reports are dues to join the brotherhood. Without names, there is no way to judge the accuracy of any report. At a minimum, reports without names tend to be embelished and border on self-promotion. At the other extreme, the entire report is made up. For those who like to read romance novels and never visit clubs, that may be enough. But for reports to be useful and actionable names are essential. That said, continued membership requires that the readers use good judgment and discression with the information.

Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal.

That being said, reports should only be used as a guide. YMMV and it is good to develop instincts as well as social skills. Too often newbies treat the girls like commodities. Just because you pay them does not mean you can do what ever you want. Good hygiene, respect, repeat sessions and charm go a long way. The same behavior that makes you look like a jerk here will get you a substandard session in the clubs. Remember, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression, and girls talk among themselves. You may be surprised, but there are girls that ask for guys when they are not there-yes, they are that good.

Been there, done that, and tutored by the experts.

I'm organizing my next trip in Frankfurt and wonder if some big club (Oase, Palace, World and Mainhattan) will organize a Christmas party for the weekend of 10-12 December.

Any infos?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Blourghus]Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?

I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.

Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?

Anywhere in the country is OK.[/QUOTE]Heidi @ GT. Around 6' 1/2 wthout heels.

[QUOTE=Akibono]

Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal.[/QUOTE]

Wish I had said it first.

[QUOTE=Akibono]

Been there, done that, and tutored by the experts.[/QUOTE]

Tortured by the experts is probably more apt. ;-))

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Akibono] there is no way to judge the accuracy of any report.
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Scenario: A new girl arrives at a club and two reports are written, one by a senior poster who raves about her...another by a rookie who had a bad time. How do you decide who is accurate and who is not? You take the word of the senior poster as accurate until further reports are provided. That's how you judge a review.

Another issue is finding out which senior poster has the same likes and dislikes as yourself.

[QUOTE=Akibono] But for reports to be useful and actionable names are essential. That said, continued membership requires that the readers use good judgment and discression with the information.

Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal..
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It all comes down to how you handle yourself in a club. Girls notice when other girls are hanging around a guy and seem to enjoy his company. They also notice when there are groups of guys hanging together that don't mix well...a bunch of different races, certain guys only talking to certain guys in the group. A girl walks by and all the guys follow by whispered conversations. You don't want people to mention the forum or walk around with reports but in your own way your outing yourself by standing out in the crowd. The girls aren't stupid, they peg one guy in the group as an ISG'r and the rest of you are labeled as well.

Argue all you want, but next time your in a club, take a look at the groups and you'll see there isn't alot of mixed groups. The asians stay with the asians, the albanians hang with the albanians, the turks with the turks...the tatooed guys with the tatooed guys.

[QUOTE=Tjohoo] I understand if not everyone wants to give out the names every time. The names are not everything, but they are of great importance.
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I disagree. Finding a connection with a girl is of much greater importance. There are guys who want 'everything'...and girls who don't want to give 'everything'. The guys who respect their limits will always get the best service, not the guys who just know their names.