Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2853835]I guess I was ahead of my time with my assessment of MDE and Colombian Chicks. There are still lots of hot ones, but they have been told they are the hottest girls in the world for several years and guys have been throwing money at them.[/QUOTE]I agree. I thought Medellin was over rated when I first went there fifteen years ago. Everyone talks about the great climate but when I was last there, every day was cold, raining, and overcast.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2853835]Elvis is correct about searching the smaller cities, but other guys will do the same.[/QUOTE]Of all the women I messaged in Cali, I think one had been on a date with a guy from seeking. The rest were seeking virgins. If I were doing seeking, I would focus on the newbies in Barranquilla and Bogota and all the women in Cali. I still think Barranquilla has the hottest women in the country. There are too many foreigners pumping up the egos of women in Cartagena and Medellin.

I would also print up a bunch of business cards and had them out to all the attractive women I met in the smaller towns and ask them about a side job where they could make more money. Even if I just hit one in twenty, that would be enough. If I can get a Colombian woman alone in a coffee shop, I could almost always close the deal.

My favorite city off the beaten path is Villa De Leyva, [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g676524-Activities-Villa_de_Leyva_Boyaca_Department.html[/URL].

I didn't see anyone who was not Colombian there. Maybe not in that city but in the general area, you got people who leave their houses unlocked. Even though it is the same country, it is a far cry from the Medellin materialism.

[QUOTE=Intelligencium;2853869]You should. If it isn't you, it will be someone else. She is the one proposing to meet, you aren't forcing her.[/QUOTE]If he doesn't fuck her, then most assuredly someone else will. He didn't seek her out or try to mess anything up. But if she's around and wants to fuck? Just do it! Discretely LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2853786]Nah, it worked in 3 countries for over a decade and would work as well today as it would 2 or 3 years ago.

[/QUOTE]What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2853921]What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.[/QUOTE]You are correct about everything changing post Covid. Nothing is easy anymore, but there will also be opportunities. For those that work hard and have some money.

If traveling continues to get more expensive, this is going to cause everyone to make lifestyle changes. So there will be less competition in the more expensive destinations. This why I stick with MTY and CDMX.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2853903]I agree. I thought Medellin was over rated when I first went there fifteen years ago. Everyone talks about the great climate but when I was last there, every day was cold, raining, and overcast.

Of all the women I messaged in Cali, I think one had been on a date with a guy from seeking. The rest were seeking virgins. If I were doing seeking, I would focus on the newbies in Barranquilla and Bogota and all the women in Cali. I still think Barranquilla has the hottest women in the country. There are too many foreigners pumping up the egos of women in Cartagena and Medellin.

I would also print up a bunch of business cards and had them out to all the attractive women I met in the smaller towns and ask them about a side job where they could make more money. Even if I just hit one in twenty, that would be enough. If I can get a Colombian woman alone in a coffee shop, I could almost always close the deal.

My favorite city off the beaten path is Villa De Leyva, [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g676524-Activities-Villa_de_Leyva_Boyaca_Department.html[/URL].

I didn't see anyone who was not Colombian there. Maybe not in that city but in the general area, you got people who leave their houses unlocked. Even though it is the same country, it is a far cry from the Medellin materialism.[/QUOTE]Handing out Business Cards is straight out of a the Italian Guys hand book. They use to do this when I was hanging out with them on Kiev and Moscow. Sounds crazy, but it works, great idea. Honestly we should all be doing that in are daily lives both professionally and socially.

[QUOTE=Foolish;2851914]Ted's 2 month experience (he has SBs in MDE and Sao Paulo) [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2767316&viewfull=1#post2767316[/URL].

My read from his experience: get a hotel, have low expectations and have backups of backups haha.[/QUOTE]Thanks Foolish for linking Ted's post. A monger better stick to Colombia and Brazil instead of dealing with crazy Argies.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2853998]Thanks Foolish for linking Ted's post. A monger better stick to Colombia and Brazil instead of dealing with crazy Argies.[/QUOTE]Sorry, if you have any standards you will probably hate Colombia, especially MDE. Bogota is definitely better. If you want to talk about bad food and service, MDE is at the top for me, just horrible.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2853921]What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.[/QUOTE]It was harder in the USA from 2014 to 2018 than Colombia is now. If I got two responses in a month, that was good.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2853921]I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls.[/QUOTE]MB, I have been with my gal for 2 and a half years. Still, I have 20+ women in the 7 to 9 range in Colombia that I could text and they would see me pronto. On top of that, I have like 200 numbers total on whatsapp from seeking women and I saw one in five of these women at most. I wouldn't even have to go on the site to get or date new / strange. There is no way in Colombia I could ever have blue balls.

And you have been in Colombia way longer looking than I have. How come I have these numbers and you do not? The only thing I can come up with is that you are completely short term focused throwing out the good thinking the next one is going to be better. Honestly, the next one usually is not better than the last good one.

And when you have the good, sometimes the women volunteer up a GF or I will ask if she has a friend and is up for a trio. Some of the hottest women and best fucks I ever had were the friends of the women I had previously seen.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2854044]It was harder in the USA from 2014 to 2018 than Colombia is now. If I got two responses in a month, that was good.

MB, I have been with my gal for 2 and a half years. Still, I have 20+ women in the 7 to 9 range in Colombia that I could text and they would see me pronto. On top of that, I have like 200 numbers total on whatsapp from seeking women and I saw one in five of these women at most. I wouldn't even have to go on the site to get or date new / strange. There is no way in Colombia I could ever have blue balls.

And you have been in Colombia way longer looking than I have. How come I have these numbers and you do not? The only thing I can come up with is that you are completely short term focused throwing out the good thinking the next one is going to be better. Honestly, the next one usually is not better than the last good one.

And when you have the good, sometimes the women volunteer up a GF or I will ask if she has a friend and is up for a trio. Some of the hottest women and best fucks I ever had were the friends of the women I had previously seen.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not short term focused, I'm actually quite opposite. I prefer to have a roster of decent girls so that I don't have to start everything from scratch every time I come down there. The best time for me was 2020 and a year after, I had 4-5 good girls in rotation. But here is the problem. Good girls don't last long, they either get snatched by someone, or move to a better place / country, or just quit SA and pursue other goals. There is no way for me to keep these arrangements going for 2-3+ years. Heck, some even change phone numbers and delete social media without letting me know, I have lost many contacts this way. So, for me personally, this is not about finding the next girl that is hotter or better, this is about replacing them due to the reasons above. I'm sure they play the same game you are talking about and are always in search for a better SD. Once they find one, you get replaced.

BTW, I can guarantee that the vast majority of your 200 WhatsApp contacts are no longer available, and some numbers have been changed.

Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2854166]Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.[/QUOTE]The thing is, after the economic "miracle" of the left government, most good looking Venezuelan women are in Colombia (or other countries) already.

The biggest pro, as you said, is that being perceived as more dangerous than Colombia and not being full of gringos might make it as a very cheap destination for mongering. And well, good looking women are turning 18 every day, so there might be still some left in Venezuela.

Ok, so nothing else was coming up so I decided to have a dinner with that girl that was "no sex on a first date, I need connection, etc". We agreed on time and place and then she said she expected a gift. I asked what kind of gift and she said "400 in an envelope". I told her straight away I won't do that uprfont, and defineteley not if there is no intimacy. Her reply was predictable and pathetic "other men do that, so I guess we don't match". End of story.

I also wrote to few interesting girl in Montenegro where I'm going on a vacation soon, and nobody replied. Yeah, that's actually worse than "normal" dating apps so far.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2854403]Ok, so nothing else was coming up so I decided to have a dinner with that girl that was "no sex on a first date, I need connection, etc". We agreed on time and place and then she said she expected a gift. I asked what kind of gift and she said "400 in an envelope". I told her straight away I won't do that upfront, and definitely not if there is no intimacy. Her reply was predictable and pathetic "other men do that, so I guess we don't match". End of story.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you didn't pay her ass shit. If she's attractive enough, then there's no telling how much money she's taken from men while looking for a "connection" (and eating and drinking for free on their dime), when in fact, she had no intention of fucking ever. You tell her, "Well, I'm not other men. I'm my own man". For the short period of time I was on Seeking, I made it clear that I would not pay out a "gift" or "allowance" over a get-to-know meeting. Not under any circumstances. And if the girl wasn't down with that because that's what's other men did, or for whatever reason, then she could go find another sucker (I mean man) then!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2854166]Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.[/QUOTE]I had the same thought a few days ago. But I looked at the state department website. It's one of only a handful of countries, the US has issued a level 4 warning for. It's in bad company. Some of the other countries are like Sudan, Somalia, Iran, North Korea, etc. I immediately noped that.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2854418]I had the same thought a few days ago. But I looked at the state department website. It's one of only a handful of countries, the US has issued a level 4 warning for. It's in bad company. Some of the other countries are like Sudan, Somalia, Iran, North Korea, etc. I immediately noped that.[/QUOTE]I did some research, gave it a second thought and decided to pass, it's just not worth it. I would rather do Buenos Aires, at least the girls there do respond on Seeking. And even message me first, which is a good indicator.