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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1121961]So what time is it best to visit Berlain, Kartika and Hotel Travel, how many girls approximately will there be and which has the prettiest? I will visit them all, I just want to make sure I get the optimum experience (which of course I will write about on here, with photos).

Also can you tell me more about Malioboro? Despite the fact I read 50+ pages on this thread alone, I only once made notes about Malioboro. Then again, it's quite possible I might have missed reports since there was a lot of info to try to take in. Similar set-up to Hotel Travel, with a large lounge and lots of girls to pick from?

Smoothy. I haven't heard of Oasis. Where is that?[/QUOTE]Stay at the Astika Hotel or Peninsula Hotel in mangga besar, these place is all near by.

Berlian and Kartika is very run down place. Turn left when you come out from the hotel above, after 10min walk reach the t-junction, then turn left again, you'll see the Berlian Kartika at your left within 3min. It is inside a small alley. Go further, you'll see the starbucks, domino, turn left again before the starbucks, domino, you are at the Stadium now, have fun. The stadium lounge start around 5:30pm, disco start at 10pm.

Oasis Spa is almost next to the peninsula hotel, mangga besar. Not recommend, unless you plan to spend 600+ for a soapie. The body massage is not including sex, you pay extra for sex. Minimum expenses is 80k for the spa facility. 160k for traditional massage. 360k for body massage. Most soapie girl is 25+. The ground floor is jaguzzi and sauna, go up 1 floor to choose the girl. The soapie girl sit at the front row sofa, wearing blue shirt, have about 12 girls. Traditional massage girl is better looking. They have some show start from 6:30.

I didn't go inside the Mille's Lokasari and Millenium Gajah Mada even it is near by. Is it same as the stadium with mamasam or freelance place like blok-m. The stadium mamasan want to charge 1M+ for overnight.

I'm looking for freelance place with 500-600k for overnight near the mangga besar. Any info will be very appreciate.

Thank you.

I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.

In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.

As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1120897]Yeah, that's right. Thommo decided that he wanted his site to be just his own words which is completely understandable. My Philippines diary was initially posted on his site (am I allowed to post a link?) but he recommended that I start up my own site, which is exactly what I did. Although it has my diaries from Thailand / Phils, the main bit of the site is the 'Secret Diaries of a Sex Tourist' weekly blog. Have you been reading? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on there.

I don't think I'm allowed to post a link. I personally don't regard my site as competition to this forum. Indeed, I even posted huge chunks of my Philippines diary (including photos) in the Philippines thread.

Danibbler, here's what Thommo said:

"I expect in time, Sir Lance, a former journalist, to become an internet front runner on the subject of sex tourism. Stick with him, for I believe in the not too distant future he is about to take off and plunder yet again the Maidens of the Far East and report in graphic detail. Oh to be young again. Thommo."

And that's why I'm on this forum now, researching my next trip. I'll be in Indonesia in three weeks time, writing my next 'secret diary'. I wanted to go somewhere new and exciting. That is why I posted below, to find information about the must-see places I have read about on this very forum. If you can help answer any of my questions, I'd be extremely grateful.

Regards,

Sir Lancelot. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Malibu21; 1122293]The King Cross is expensive than hotel travel and stadium. They charge 150k++ for st rooms, the girls have several price. 300k. 400k etc. Overall the environment, show and music is good.

Oasis Spa not worth it, the girl quality is bad, and the body massage is not included sex. 80k for spa facility. 160k massage. 360k body massage, near Astika Hotel. [/QUOTE]King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.

You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.

Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1122495]King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.

You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1122825]Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.[/QUOTE]Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1123107]Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.

I went up to Kelapa Gading last March to meet a young (early 20s) girl that I had met on DIA. We met at one of the malls there where she worked, but quickly went to another closeby mall (probably because she had a bf and didn't want to be seen with me there). Both malls were nice and I liked the area. After enjoying a bite to eat, we headed off to my hotel (Atlet) and decided to hang out for awhile before going to CJs. So we watched a movie. Before long, we were making out and had an incredible time making love together. She has one of the prettiest faces I have ever seen in Jakarta and a great petite build. After making love, we showered and went to CJs and danced and got totally drunk before going back to my hotel for the night. Because she had a bf, I never followed up with her. My loss. She is married now (to her bf) and living somewhere in Europe. Lucky guy.

I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1123352]Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.[/QUOTE]The first MTR is at Pangeran Jayakarta. The former name of it was Mutiara.

[QUOTE=KangK;1123487]I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.[/QUOTE]Haven't met either of them, tried to get contact details from one but no response. I suspect they get a lot of messages.

I also always tell them that I am married, my profile on DIA says I'm married and I have no pictures there. I always refuse to send pics when they ask for them. Sorts out the husband hunters from the fun lovers.

[QUOTE=Danibbler; 1122385]I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.

In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.

As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.[/QUOTE]I understand the point you make. The truth is that I only charge a fee for my diaries so that the girls contained within remain anonymous to the casual visitor (I hardly make any money). It's similar to this forum. There are thousands of pictures of girls but they are hidden away only to be seen by those who pay a subscription. It's my experience that girls are wary of the internet in case it reveals to their friends / family that they're hookers, so if a cost / subscription is introduced, it means that the photos only get seen by mongers.

In terms of sharing information and the 'ethos of the forum', again, I take your point. However, I would like to point out that I posted 8 HUGE field reports following my trip to Philippines last year and my 'Secret Diaries' blog contains lots of free information.

Malibu21.

KangK.

Smoothy.

Mighty Spearsman.

Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.

Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?

I also have a few more questions:

- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.

- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?

- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report.

[QUOTE=KangK;1123487]I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.[/QUOTE]I always tell the girls the truth. It makes for a much simpler time. If they still agree to proceed, you both know where you stand. However, this doesn't mean they won't end up investing their emotions. It's happened to me a few times before. I'm not sure how your wife will find out - unless you are careless and leave your computer on. I register under a pseudonym (as do half the girls anyway) have a separate email and yahoo messenger under my alter ego. So a search under my name will not garner any results. I also surf these sites and ISG using the Google Chrome incognito window so there's no history or cookies stored. Better to be safe and keep the computer clean.

Are you an Indonesian resident? Incidentally, I gather you must be able to travel quite extensively as the first girl is in Jakarta and the second is in Semarang. That's quite some distance between the two places. But then again I note your range of conquests and remain in envy of the girl in the bikini and the sister in Pelabuhan Ratu.

MD II

MD2, I haven't had any pleasure with those 2 girls from DIA but was merely asking has anyone had any dates with them as I'm a tit and ankle guy and Rena Ayu's tits look pretty inviting whereas Sera Wati just looked absolutely gorgeous. I actually went thru the motions and joined up to DIA with the main purpose on fronting RA but when I was filling in my profile I decided not to as I'm like you, you tell the girls the truth that way they know exactly where you stand and if they proceed you know exactly where they stand. With your wife finding out is pretty easy especially when our dial is plastered up on DIA and the wives have friends who may be a member to DIA. I've worked extensively throughout Indo and not planning on going anywhere else as it is as good as it gets. I'm totally biased as I love the diversity of Indo women especially Sundanese women. Anyway on my next R&R I have my hot 21 yr old GF with the second best set of tits I have ever been gangster slapped with to hang out with and have arranged to meet this other hot regular of mine from Bogor. Tall slender hot 18 yr old Sunda girl with extra hard firm tits and great BBBJCIM's. Not camera shy either so hopefully will have some more photos to come next month.

First went to HT (Hotel Travel) for a late afternoon session. It was hard as hell to find, I just assumed every taxi drive should know such a place but it's not so. Searched and couldn't find the address in the forum so here it is.

Address: Jl. Mangga Besar VIII / 21.

Phone: 021-6012721.

The entrance for spa or whatever the place with the girls is to the left of the main hotel entrance.

For those not familiar it's a large lounge where you can eat, drink, have the company of a girl, and take her to a room for shag.

There was at least 30 girls available but IMHO they were not the greatest looking. Something like pudgy brown little oompa loompas. A few looked younger and cuter though.

I took a girl. They required payment in advance, no chance for later. It was 300k for an hour including the room.

Ream was clean and decent.

The girls I took while really cute ended up being incredibly annoying. Beyond the constant yammering that I couldn't understand she kept trying to put on the condom after 5 seconds of sucking. After about 15 minutes I was greatly annoyed and kicked her out and fetched managment. They offered that I could keep the room but would need to pay 150k for a new girl. Good enough. New girl was slightly less attractive but 1000% more enthusiastic. Finished in her mouth. I appreciate the customer service from management. Pretty good and patient by skeezy brothel standards.

A few nights later to CJs club in Hotel Mulia.

Girls here were better looking on average than at HT and a few really attractive ones but in general still not great.

A few oompa loompas approached me but I had 0 interest. I approached a few of the more attractive girls but basically got the brush off from all of them. Towards the end of the night (30 min before closing) I spotted a new one. Conversation was nice and friendly. But. She wanted one million (good enough, I'm horny and it's late) and. Wasn't even willing to stay 3 hours. Her exact words were 'you finish and then I go'.

So I went home alone.

Not the best introduction to mongering in the Jakarta. I just didn't see alot of great looking girls.

BTW, Bluebird group taxi's are great. Always ran the meter. Never any hassle. Every other type of cab I tried was terrible.

[quote=sir lancelot; 1123691]malibu21.

kangk.

smoothy.

mighty spearsman.

thank you for your help about the massage parlours. i plan to be in jakarta for about a week and will stay in kota area, possibly mercure hotel. absolute certainties to visit are hotel travel and classic hotel for the 3some. i will also pop my head in to oasis, kartika and berlain. then there are other places like red square, malioboro and stadium that sound interesting, that i will visit if i have time. it's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. at night i will sample the delights of blok m and some of the discos.

does this sound a reasonable itinerary? are there any glaring omissions?

i also have a few more questions:

- what type of setup is malioboro? i've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, i can't find too many details.

- i read somewhere that "kota indah in jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". i think it was from another website but i haven't read anything about it on this forum. is it out-of-date information?

- if you had to choose your favourite place in kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

once again, thanks for your help and i will certainly post a report. [/quote]sl, you can start off at kota indah around 14. 00 and its easier to go to lokasari shopping centre jl mangga besar, which is just near ht and oasis then jump on a ojek (motorbike) to kota indah 10, 000rp. there are 4 main wh's mtr, royal, sari ayu and la. these are mainly fishbowls but well worth it as i've scored some absolute honeys there. watch out for mtr as i was date raped there by some chick who was trained up by some fat american guy who works in singapore and frequents the place. i'm always doing it to the girls myself so i sensed it as karma! hehehehe