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[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2646329]I really can't comment on bus trips or dispensaries since I don't partake. I've seen a lot of discussions about land crossings in their local board Merb, I would give that a read. I have to say that it it's worth the trip once they reopen back up though.[/QUOTE]OK. Thank You.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2646368]Thanks for the excellent review below. Not surprised you had an excellent encounter via SA. But if it was her first time meeting you, and you were able to complete a full session high chances that she also work as an SP and / or has so many encounters via SA that she's actually one. I mean let's be fair girl on SA that provide sex are escort. The difference is the medium and the fact that you cannot, for the life of me, call them escort!

Surprised to learn Elie does not provide CIM. Must be recent as I had it with her. You got me interested in Sabrina and Juliette.

By the way I also was banned fast on SA. Exactly like you. I thinks they check for keywords and can easily find people negotiating. I Created another account and switch to email very fast. For me SA was very good because I live in the suburb. I found girl that were living about 1 h from downtown with much lower fee. It's on SA that I found a young cute teacher. She had not said to her BF that she had every Friday morning off in order to try out SA. She was so nervous the first time. It turned out she was a total nympho. She said her BF did not like sex that much. She devoured me. After about 3 months of crazy sex she dumped her BF and began doing more SA at night. She discovered having sex with 50 year old dude can be a lot of fun. Of course I said to her. We always fuck like it's going to be the last time! Then she found a new hot BF and I guess that one like sex because she forgot about me. I continue on SA a few month but never found anything near that teacher.[/QUOTE]To be fair I didn't ask Elie directly if she'the do it, just got the vibe so I might be wrong. Sabrina we clicked instantly and the rest is history. I hope to see her again one day.

How did you create a new account? Just used a different email and it worked? I tried and it banned me right away again. Did you use a different device and different network? I've read that they track your devices but haven't tried to join again. I think Montreal could be a good place to find girls, with so many young students and such a diverse population in the suburbs I'm sure there are girls curious to explore. I'd love to try again in the future.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2646368]Thanks for the excellent review below. Not surprised you had an excellent encounter via SA. But if it was her first time meeting you, and you were able to complete a full session high chances that she also work as an SP and / or has so many encounters via SA that she's actually one. I mean let's be fair girl on SA that provide sex are escort. The difference is the medium and the fact that you cannot, for the life of me, call them escort![/QUOTE]I find the need to label SA girls as escorts a bit humorous. I don't think this is the first time you have emphasized this point. And you are certainly not alone in this effort to put a label to it.

There are guys on the SA thread who try to set their multi-meeting hook-ups apart from the guys seeking one-time hook-ups. At the end of the day, none of the SA transactions really need to be labeled. If a young woman says "okay, I will only come to your hotel to have sex with you" or whatever euphemism she uses to describe intimacy, well then that's clearly an escort.

Steve (likely the most active SA sugar daddy) is an excellent case and point. He wines, dines and even dances with the young women. He genuinely likes hanging out with them. I know he has many one night SA sexual encounters. However when he finds a woman he enjoys hanging out with and having sex with, he will see them several times over long periods. Nobody believes these girls on SA have limited sexual experience. And other than getting lucky and finding a sexually-willing girl totally new to SA, no one believes these girls aren't meeting other guys on SA.

Likely, EverythingBlue's Montreal girl is active on SA. Maybe she truly likes the whole dating aspect in addition to the monetary gain. Maybe she likes to establish a rapport with the men she has sex with. From my experience, you simply call an escort or her agency and you meet up for a quick dalliance.

One of the reasons I find this all humorous is that the labeling also goes in the reverse manner. You will find guys on the third world country threads looking for non-pro girls who will spend a week with them hanging out and having sex. Other guys will use phrases like semi-pro in third world countries. I don't know what that means exactly.

Everyone here knows what we are all here for without trying to put a label to every transaction and every girl who benefits monetarily from sexual encounters.

I saw below girls from XO agency's current roaster. Incall location is downtown. Booking process was through text messages.

Arielle: I believe, she has Algerian background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, I found her above average. She has great fit body. Very service oriented girl. After I took my shower, I saw she was waiting for me in the bed in a nice lingerie. We started immediately with DFK and then slowly progressed through BBBJ and Full Service. Overall, great encounter with her.

Bianka: She started in this industry about 10+ years ago and currently, I think in her late 30's. Facially, I found her good looking. She has slim body with few tattoos and enhanced boobs. This girl definitely knows how to talk and also how to provide great GFE service. She is a keeper.

Elizabeth: Facially, she has GND looks. Probably, in her late 20's. I was little disappointed when I saw her. She was little bit on healthier side and that is not really my type. She was very eager to please but honestly, I was not that interested. So, I finished the session early within 35 minutes.

Estelle: She looks very young and cute. Has very nice body too. No tattoos. I would say her service was average. She was having some trouble with different positions.

Evelyn: She has European background and for sure a head-turner. I found her little bit lazy in bed though and I had to do all the work. The highlight of our session was we did greek.

Harley: Facially, I found her very good looking and young. She has very nice pair of 32 the natural boobs. She gave me great GFE Service. I have repeated with her several times.

Kate: She has German background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, she looks very hot and very nice to talk to. Her service is more PSE than GFE. The highlight of our session was receiving Rimming from her.

Olivia: Facially, she is not really my type. Has GND looks. Her body is fit but noticed several tattoos. She has prior experience working in a massage parlor and so, I also took a massage from her after we finished.

Sabrina: She has Moroccan background and probably, in her early 20's. Facially I found her very GND. She has very nice fit body with big ass. She was very eager to please and I had overall good time with her. The highlight of our session was lot of DFK.

This parlor is located outside of downtown in Montreal East. From downtown, I took an Uber to go there. Took about 1 hour with all the traffic. I saw 2 girls there.

Eva: Facially, she is drop dead gorgeous. You can see her pictures in twitter account at EvasAngelsMtl. I believe she is also currently the manager of this parlor. I would say giving massage is not her biggest strength but otherwise she is great to talk to and provides good debutante level service. If you connect with her, you will have good time. YMMV.

Alexia: Facially, she is hot. You can see her twitter account at AlexiaFei. Due to lack of Asian girls in Montreal, she is very popular among guys. Conversation with her was not very fluent but otherwise she delivered a passionate GFE service. I saw her in the parlor but I know she also does outcalls.

I always enjoyed Jalimon's many posts and reviews on the local board, but I can tell you pretty confidently that he is primarily a Montreal mongerer with a taste for its better escorts.

The guys here on ISG that insist on distinguishing Sugar Babies from prostitutes are often guys who have a lot of experience in the third world.

While I don't have Jalimon's level of Montreal experiences, I have done enough in the third world to understand that there are a lot of prostitutes there who could simply not pull off the Sugar experience. They just aren't educated or cultured enough. Doesn't mean some of them can't be a good fuck, though.

Montreal's higher-end escorts are different and more versatile. I don't mean the LeoList ones, but I do mean the agency and independents with a Twitter / website presence.

I saw one of Jalimon's favorites once. I got lucky in that she was working that afternoon with XO escorts at her low rate. I had a fantastic time. We talked some, and at that moment she was working with XO on certain afternoons. She had a big web channel subscription thing where she did performances at night under a different name. She occasionally worked as an independent under yet a different name at a much higher price per hour. It was revealed later on the local board that she had six, yes six, different Sugar Daddies for a while that she presumably met through Seeking Arrangement. None of them knew about the other Sugar Daddies.

You have to understand that when we meet, and grow to really like, girls such as her, we laugh when we read comments about how Seeking Arrangement ladies are so much different than hookers. As I said, that may be true sometimes in the Third World due to the practicalities of life. But these bilingual Montreal escorts are well educated and they can be whatever the situation calls for.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2646817]I find the need to label SA girls as escorts a bit humorous. I don't think this is the first time you have emphasized this point. And you are certainly not alone in this effort to put a label to it.

There are guys on the SA thread who try to set their multi-meeting hook-ups apart from the guys seeking one-time hook-ups. At the end of the day, none of the SA transactions really need to be labeled. If a young woman says "okay, I will only come to your hotel to have sex with you" or whatever euphemism she uses to describe intimacy, well then that's clearly an escort.

Steve (likely the most active SA sugar daddy) is an excellent case and point. He wines, dines and even dances with the young women. He genuinely likes hanging out with them. I know he has many one night SA sexual encounters. However when he finds a woman he enjoys hanging out with and having sex with, he will see them several times over long periods. Nobody believes these girls on SA have limited sexual experience. And other than getting lucky and finding a sexually-willing girl totally new to SA, no one believes these girls aren't meeting other guys on SA..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2646182]That's a great report for sure.

Would you recommend the 8 HR bus trip to mongers from NYC for a few days? I see Busbud has rates of $75.

Are there any marijuana dispensaries within the city limits?[/QUOTE]Hmm, do you really want an experience of, accounting for delays, 8-10 HR public bus ride? Esp if it is in the winter? Rest room breaks must be horrid. Not worth it IMHO for the price.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2632019]Jalimon, As a side note, I've worked with many Asian immigrants in the corporate world. Many will say they had a choice to immigrate to the United States or Canada. They opted for the United States. How bad can it be here for Asians?[/QUOTE]How deep did your survey go? A choice can be driven by which place they might make better money for their time. USD $$$ vs CAD?

Maybe they would tolerate with intolerance for the sake of accumulating wealth until they are ready to make a move elsewhere, which means you can't say it isn't that bad just because they opted for the USA rather than CAD.

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So one thing I didn't mention earlier is that when I met my date and we got back to my hotel room we started the action, and when she made a comment about her gift I ended up taking care of it before we consummated the act, but how I did it mattered to her apparently LOL. What I did is I placed the cash on a counter visible to her. When she saw this she complained, she said I hate you did that like if I'm an escort LOL. I just kept going and so did she, but it got me thinking how would she know that? And would giving it to her directly have been better?

During other conversations some girls made comments about first meeting nothing physical is guaranteed, or that a gift is expected nevertheless. Well is that not an escort aka companion anyhow? I guess the terminology matters to the girls, and to some of us it matters too. It's all a fantasy, and that's fine by me. I still think about my date with my Brazilian girlfriend for the night during my last trip to SP, her beautiful tight dress and our conversation at dinner about climate change and Brazilian exports LOL. About literature and how she never wants to leave Brazil, she's a proud girl. Of course I enjoyed the sex after, but I enjoyed it more because all this lead up got me stimulated more than a double dose of Viagra.

So I agree, girls can be anything they want to be with whoever they want to, so let's not forget, money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac! LOL.

Will be heading out for f1 weekend this year.

Can anyone recommend a few AMP's located closer to downtown? Or do I have to take a cab ride outside?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2647018]So one thing I didn't mention earlier is that when I met my date and we got back to my hotel room we started the action, and when she made a comment about her gift I ended up taking care of it before we consummated the act, but how I did it mattered to her apparently LOL. What I did is I placed the cash on a counter visible to her. When she saw this she complained, she said I hate you did that like if I'm an escort LOL. I just kept going and so did she, but it got me thinking how would she know that? And would giving it to her directly have been better?

During other conversations some girls made comments about first meeting nothing physical is guaranteed, or that a gift is expected nevertheless. Well is that not an escort aka companion anyhow? I guess the terminology matters to the girls, and to some of us it matters too. It's all a fantasy, and that's fine by me. I still think about my date with my Brazilian girlfriend for the night during my last trip to SP, her beautiful tight dress and our conversation at dinner about climate change and Brazilian exports LOL. About literature and how she never wants to leave Brazil, she's a proud girl..[/QUOTE]Perhaps the woman has ideas of escorts from movies and television. Maybe she was an "escort", but now prefers SA. In the "sugar babies are escorts" discussion, I have to think an escort makes more money much faster. I'm not sure how you laid out the cash. Even with escorts, I tend to show up with an envelope and place it to the side. As you know, in Brazil it's different. Generally everything is more playful and then at the end you hand the girl cash. She gives you a kiss.

I only find the desire to label P4 P activities humorous. And yes, SA on this forum is basically a form of P4 P. One or two guys on the SA thread mention possibly marrying a third world sugar baby with whom they enjoy their company. Does that move along the escort to sugar baby to gold digger spectrum to use common labels?

The humor for me lies in the allusion men and women create in their heads in this P4P world. As I noted, some SA guys get a little self-righteous that they "date" girls multiple times while others are just "butterflies" as the Thai hookers use to describe men who bounced around from girl to girl.

The craziest discussions are on the flipside where first world guys who travel to Brazil, Thailand, etc. And proclaim here that they don't want to shack up with a pro. Huh? The phrase semi-pro is another one of those allusions. Does that mean a girl who only looks for a score one or two nights a week? Some guys here get off on thinking about some sweet girl who only does this once in awhile to pay for her college education. This also ventures off into the dirty girl / clean girl allusion that some guys have.

I had a buddy who came back from Brazil after spending most of his week with a girl he met at Shenanigan's Irish Pub in Ipanema. You would not automatically assume an English-speaking Brasileira here is a working girl. He went on and on about her. Her beauty, her intelligence, her humor. He wanted to go back to see her. He claimed she didn't want money, but he took her to the mall to buy her some gifts. It sounded nice. When he showed me her photos (lovely woman by the way), I did not want to burst his bubble. I had seen her photos on a sex forum not once but on two separate occasions.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2646880]I saw below girls from XO agency's current roaster. Incall location is downtown. Booking process was through text messages.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rafi. This is a good addition to the library of MTL reviews.

I'm curious. How was Kate with DFK? I came across some photos of her awhile back. She had a pretty, Germanic look. I can't seem to find the photos on a Twitter account or the XO site.

And, Eva the manager at Maya's Angels is a knockout.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2646983]How deep did your survey go? A choice can be driven by which place they might make better money for their time. USD $$$ vs CAD?

Maybe they would tolerate with intolerance for the sake of accumulating wealth until they are ready to make a move elsewhere, which means you can't say it isn't that bad just because they opted for the USA rather than CAD.[/QUOTE]For obvious reasons, I'm not going to discuss my social or professional life. Nor will I discuss where I live or have lived.

Let's just say my experience / survey goes much deeper than CNN's commentary on America. That is not a real gauge of what is going on in the country.

By the way, some USA Immigrants flirt with the idea of going back one day but it rarely seems to happen.

[QUOTE=MitForLfe;2647047]Will be heading out for f1 weekend this year.

Can anyone recommend a few AMP's located closer to downtown? Or do I have to take a cab ride outside?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Forgot that as a new user that my posts have to be approved by a moderator. Lost access to my older ISG handle Mit4 LFE and can't seem to recover it.

Will be arriving at 2230 so most agencies are closed and am looking for a quick session before my friends arrive.