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[QUOTE=Iseeu;1103341]I agree that this system isn't perfect but it beats the previous one in which only one person, Jackson the administrator of ISG, could open new threads. The result as we all know, is that lots of info got lost amidst the chaos that is the miscellaneous thread, I. E "Other FKK Clubs", which is only intended for rarely reported clubs.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. The problem is also not [i]how[/i] The FKK section should be structered (ad some new Clubs, maybe ad an FAQ for Clubs and one for Travelling advices) but more [i]how[/i] To get this implemented realizing moderation is very limited present here.

[QUOTE=Iseeu;1103341]User discussion boards like this one, in which the actual users of the board generate and input the content, are meant to be self-policing. It's our responsibility to notify the admin when there is blatant abuse of this privilege, just as we do today, when someone abuses the privilege to post, by posting irrelevant data or other content that doesn't comply with the posting guidelines. I participate on a couple of other discussion boards and some permit all verified members to open new threads. Don't see any reason why it shouldn't work here as well.[/QUOTE]The only reason it would not work is that some members do not comply with the more informal posting guide lines. I do not know how high that risk is or how much moderation then is needed.

Thruth is in this ection you do not find many post that need to be moderated or even deleted. On other Pay6 boards with more members and daily postings there will be a higher chance of finding postings that can not be tolerated. That is my experience.

Meanwhile I opened the [b]"Why_I_like_Big30_so_much"[/b] Thread, SW approval was no problem this time!

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Last year, I was the beneficiary of top 10 for 2009 lists. It led to some outstanding sessions and helped me to separate the wheat from the chaff. It took me exactly zero seconds, based on these lists to accept a zimmer proposal from Michelle (SW) at Oase, giving her the privledge of breaking my FKK cherry.

So although I am not a frequent FKK visitor, I thought I would initiate this (unless someone else already did elsewhere in the forum). I realize that there is some turnover since last February, but some girls are still there and if I am able to manage a repeat visit in 2011, there might be new girls that make experienced FKK'ers top 10 which would be great knowledge. I just ask that you don't walk around an FKK with a top 10 list in your hand. Commit it to memory as I did.

My list is based on a five-day. 18 girl. 19 session spree at FKKs Oase, Samya, Bernds, Babylon, and a GB at Sersenichin (sp?) in Duisburg. And as such, I will keep my list short, to the top 5 sessions (from my pov) since the ones below that would be good, but not outstanding. Others could list thier top 10 as they see fit.

So here goes:

1. Claudia (br) at Oase. Just hit the right buttons for me and vice versa (with two apparently real O's on her part). If she had spent a little more time with me after session in the lounge, I might be writing from my home in Brazil right now, LOL. She won't approach you as is the Oase standard, but just look for the tanned blonde with the playboy body.

2. Hanna (CZ) at Oase. How she got me (actually mambo) in sufficieint shape to visit the greek isles for a fifth (and final) session for the day, I still don't understand.

3. Katja (ru) at Bernds. Total unrushed GFE session complete with a cim finale and her releasing it on my chest. Whew. I thought she was going to kiss me, LOL.

4. Judith (hu) at Oase. The only girl that was a trip repeat. The last on the front seat in the kino. Nothing outstanding except her eyes, but she was my only repeat, so is deserving to be on the list.

5. Virga (tk) at Samya. This was a tough choice, but it was more about the Samya environment. Like picking up a cute, shy girl at a real nightclub, taking her back to the VIP. And in Virga's case, she let me give her a real orgasm in which time seemed to halt just before she let loose. The only drawback was her denied request for extra time money, which didn't really go beyond the time limit.

[QUOTE=Mambomike; 1105259]2. Hanna (CZ) at Oase. How she got me (actually mambo) in sufficieint shape to visit the greek isles for a fifth (and final) session for the day, I still don't understand.

[/QUOTE]She is skillfull and she has energy! She always drink Red Bull.

[QUOTE=Mambomike; 1105259]Last year, I was the beneficiary of top 10 for 2009 lists. It led to some outstanding sessions and helped me to separate the wheat from the chaff. It took me exactly zero seconds, based on these lists to accept a zimmer proposal from Michelle (SW) at Oase, giving her the privledge of breaking my FKK cherry.

So although I am not a frequent FKK visitor, I thought I would initiate this (unless someone else already did elsewhere in the forum). I realize that there is some turnover since last February, but some girls are still there and if I am able to manage a repeat visit in 2011, there might be new girls that make experienced FKK'ers top 10 which would be great knowledge. I just ask that you don't walk around an FKK with a top 10 list in your hand. Commit it to memory as I did. [/QUOTE]So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.

Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment.

I knew in advance what days I'd be doing trips in 2011, checked car rental rates in November. Found some great deals. So booked even though I didn't have flights booked (not a prepaid rental, I can cancel if the dates don't work). Have been checking every week since making the bookings to see if the rates stayed low. Found out today that they jumped 25% near the end of December for both of my trips in 2011.

I have to conclude booking say 6 month's in advance has little impact on rates if you wait until the last two weeks in December. Even the rates in September jumped 25%.

And ive been accused of forgetting to include names in previous posts...so for Ortos...her name was Orbitz, she was very good, gave me great service and even discounted me 25% at the end. ;-) She also had one hell of a tail pipe, stuck it in once, but all that black soot sure was a turnoff. But it was fun taking her out for a spin, wanted to treat her to some high test but she wanted too much for that service...although she did let me play with all her gears She did have a bit of a backfire, said she had mexican the night before. Downside her clutch was a bit tender from too many quick starts but she knew that I needed to drive. Took her thru all of the curves, downshifted at all the right points. She was all polished up from head to toe, those headlights sure stood at attention. I could tell she really knew how to rev my engine. Once we got going, she knew I was ready to go all night long...put it in cruise control, nice and slow. I noticed her tramp stamp on the way out as I slapped her on the ass...don't know who this Ford guy is but he sure gets around.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1105554]So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.

Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment. [/QUOTE]I am surprised seeing this type of comment from you, oh Master of all lists!

Nonetheless, you make a good point and you will find in my reviews quite a variety, including Claudia (Oase) and Virga (Samya) who were on no one's list, plus an enjoyable visit to FKK Babylon that has fallen out of favor and gets few reviews here anymore. From a newbie's perspective, however, having a mental TDL certainly helped me from being sharked and allowed time to begin developing the necessary pre-zimmer skills, hopefully for a repeat trip when it can be managed.

[QUOTE=Mambomike; 1105654]I am surprised seeing this type of comment from you, oh Master of all lists!

Nonetheless, you make a good point and you will find in my reviews quite a variety, including Claudia (Oase) and Virga (Samya) who were on no one's list, plus an enjoyable visit to FKK Babylon that has fallen out of favor and gets few reviews here anymore. From a newbie's perspective, however, having a mental TDL certainly helped me from being sharked and allowed time to begin developing the necessary pre-zimmer skills, hopefully for a repeat trip when it can be managed. [/QUOTE]When I was doing outcalls in Toronto I had 'lists'. But that seems like ages ago. When your calling an agency, you'd want a list in front of you as they rattled off names of who was working that evening. You would have to study the photo's to see who might be the best looker, study the reviews to see if they were worth your 240 bucks, try to see if the photo was overly photoshopped. But those lists are in the past. Why would you want a list of girls when visiting a club. When you look around you can see who's working, you can see who has the hottest body. And you can do 3 girls to the one you'd have to choose in Toronto.

As to Babylon, don't think its fallen out of favor here. Its just a small club that has limited opening / closing hours and only has one shift of girls who work the entire day. Have to ask though. Did you have a TDL for Babylon or did you just go with the flow? I like small clubs like Finca that have two shifts and are open longer and have a reduced happy hour entrance fee. Most smaller clubs have a reduced entry to keep the locals coming in for a quick visit. You'd be amazed how packed Finca is from 11 till 1. There might be 30 girls in the club for opening, but if you walk in at 12:30 the place will seem dead. All the girls are busy. After one shot, most of the guys head back to work.

As to sharks. Not all the shark type approach's end in a bad encounter.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1105554]So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.

Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment. [/QUOTE]Your point on the advantages of variety and discovery are well taken but Mambomike said he was just trying to give back to the forum, especially since such lists helped him. (That is what this forum is about yes? Sharing advice so others can have a good time and avoid pitfalls?) I would think such lists are beneficial especially if the same names and clubs pop up over and over again, indicating a high probability that you'll enjoy as well.

Above and beyond that, these lists are fun! They bring back great memories of the past year.

Mambomike's now got me thinking of my 10 favorites, which I hope to post soon.

[QUOTE=GFE Finder; 1105815]Above and beyond that, these lists are fun! They bring back great memories of the past year.

[/QUOTE]So you use lists when you visit the clubs?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1105819]So you use lists when you visit the clubs?[/QUOTE]I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.

Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and b.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller.

[QUOTE=GFE Finder; 1105820]I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.

Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and be.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller. [/QUOTE]To be honest, I read reports here and rarely do I find the names of the girls I've went to the room with. How many girls work at Oase, not on a given day but the total number? 200? 300? I'd have to 'guess' its over 400 give or take what with girls driving from club to club. Same goes for World and Palace. That's alot of names. I've also read several reports here that stated a certain girl was good looking but her service was awful. Had I read this before meeting the girl and written her name down on a list of bad service providers I probably would have saved myself 250 euro's and five of the best fucks of my trip and countless hours of free couch time playing with her ample chest. IPM ran into us lounging at World. His question as she walked to the bar to fetch us some drinks was how much I was paying her for her time. My answer 'nada'. He then asked how many times I went with her to the room. Told him once the week before and early that afternoon. No, I'm not bragging. Just pointing out that not all is true for all people. I try to work on chemistry first to see if there is a connection, I'm not too concerned if she's on someone's list or not. If she's a shark I'm pretty sure I'll figure that out eventually. Hopefully before handing over a 50.

Everyone here has different preferences in what they like, I've seen guys go with some of the fattest ugliest chicks at the clubs and wonder. But she might be on someone's list here. Now if I were to read that GFE Finder recommended girl A and I added her to my list. Then met her and she wasn't attractive I'd say Hi and move on. But if I was in a hotel room in Toronto and she was the one I called because of his recommendation and I had to go thru with it. Then I'd be pretty pissed. This happened to me a couple of times during outcalls, not to the extent I described above but not too far off. You learn pretty fast that some guys have different standards, not all lists rank the same. A list doesn't belong in the clubs in my opinion. What I do find helpful is chatting up a regular of the club who might have insight on who's good and who's to be avoided. A finger point is so much easier to remember than trying to juggle names and descriptions.

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[QUOTE=Breadman;1105844]I try to work on chemistry first to see if there is a connection[/QUOTE]As do I. However,

[QUOTE=Breadman;1105844]How many girls work at Oase, not on a given day but the total number? 200? 300? I'd have to 'guess' its over 400 give or take what with girls driving from club to club. Same goes for World and Palace. That's alot of names. [/QUOTE]And I choose to eliminate the dozens-hundreds present to a manageable size for further consideration through recommendations, such as a top 10 list. It looks like you use recommendations to narrow that list as well:

[QUOTE=Breadman;1105844]What I do find helpful is chatting up a regular of the club who might have insight on who's good and who's to be avoided. A finger point is so much easier to remember than trying to juggle names and descriptions.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Breadman;1105844]Everyone here has different preferences in what they like, I've seen guys go with some of the fattest ugliest chicks at the clubs and wonder. But she might be on someone's list here. [/QUOTE]Of course, I concede that this variance is the downside of lists. Ideally, there would be some explanation as to why a girl ranks as she does so that others can see if your preferences align with theirs.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1105844]Now if I were to read that GFE Finder recommended girl A and I added her to my list. Then met her and she wasn't attractive I'd say Hi and move on. But if I was in a hotel room in Toronto and she was the one I called because of his recommendation and I had to go thru with it. Then I'd be pretty pissed. This happened to me a couple of times during outcalls, not to the extent I described above but not too far off. You learn pretty fast that some guys have different standards, not all lists rank the same. A list doesn't belong in the clubs in my opinion. [/QUOTE]Am I misunderstanding your argument here? Since the potential downside is greater, lists are more harmful in escort situations that clubs and hence this would be an argument for having lists for girls in clubs.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1105844]A little Christmas cheer.

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[QUOTE=GFE Finder; 1105820]I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.

Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and be.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller. [/QUOTE]I agree with GFE Finder.

If I see a name that I know pop up in a report or someone writes a good report about a girl, I may remember the name and when I see her in the club I will make an assessment on what I think before I make a decision. The more good recommendations the better since some of us do not get to the clubs as often as we would like. So our intel may not be up to date if we just used what we know from our last visit. This is why the information shared here is of import to many.

Also girls on my to do list that I have not got around to yet will move up the ladder when they receive a recommendation, instead of her lanquishing in the relegated tiers.

I do enjoy the lists and it is good to know when a particular girl is still working since somehow it feels that there is a chance, no matter how remote, that she will be there again when you do make that infrequent visit.

Markthomas, getting out of bed and visiting the clubs today for some rest and relaxation.

[QUOTE=GFE Finder; 1105860]It looks like you use recommendations to narrow that list as well:

Am I misunderstanding your argument here? Since the potential downside is greater, lists are more harmful in escort situations that clubs and hence this would be an argument for having lists for girls in clubs.

Where and how did you find this video? [/QUOTE]There are many types of lists I imagine. You can compile a list of outcall girls deemed only on the recommendation and reviews of a board. Problem with this is some posters have ties with the agency's and want to promote their girls. Tried a few well recommended girls when I started out in the escort bookings. Never again. What I did make was lists based on the website pictures on the internet (thank god for the internet). The better the girl looked in the picture, the higher on the list. But you'd base this on the size / quality / agency reputation. I'd make tons of these lists. But in the clubs I don't have any lists to go on. If you could post pics of the girls (a lineup) and have the guys try to match their names to the faces, I'd fail every time. If you break down my comments again, I'll reiterate 'I don't use lists in the clubs'. Period.

I see these guys walking around like zombie's at the clubs, girl approach's or they approach and ask the girl her name. Then move on without hardly stopping. I've got to guess they are trying to find someone on their list. Are they narrowing down potential loss's with this approach or are they missing out? I'm not saying MamboMike uses this approach, but when someone here asks for a top 10 list the situation above plays out in my mind. Seeing what is definitely a rookie walking around with blinders on, trying to find the names on his list (again not MM). We've all seen the rookie shuffle before, its a learning curve so to speak. After awhile just give up the lists and go with the flow.

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