Medellin Reports

Picking up on my trip report for last week. Wednesday I went to Guatape, which was a really nice tour. The bus left from El Poblado early in the morning, and came back right in rush hour traffic. It took forever to get through the last couple of miles in the traffic. When the bus finally made it back, I noticed a sign for Jade Palace Spa. I recognized this name from World Travel's list, so I thought it would be a good idea to go check it out after such a long trip back. Man, am I glad that I did. That place was great. Only 160 k for the hour. The massage was really top notch, and the masseuse Luna was super hot. On Thursday, I took it easy part of the day because I caught a little cold. It seemed to me that about half the people in Medellin were walking around coughing and sneezing, and I guess I caught it. Thursday night I went to Conejitas again and saw a really hot Venezuelan named Charlotte for 100 k. On Friday I tried to make up for Thursday being slow. I started the day at New Life and saw another girl named Marcela. Not to be confused with Marcela from Energy. In the afternoon, my room at the hotel still wasn't cleaned, so I went over to Aisha spa in Laureles. This place was all women in their 30's - 40's. But older women really know what they're doing. The sex was great. Saw Diana, 100 k HR. Friday night, back to Conejitas again and saw a gorgeous Colombiana named Vanessa. She was also 100 k. I might not have been able to get that third nut of the day, but Vanessa was like a super model. I can't believe I got to bang her for the equivalent of $30!

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394115]........... When the bus finally made it back, I noticed a sign for Jade Palace Spa. I recognized this name from World Travel's list, so I thought it would be a good idea to go check it out after such a long trip back. Man, am I glad that I did. That place was great. Only 160 k for the hour. The massage was really top notch, and the masseuse Luna was super hot.............[/QUOTE]Why did you not partake of extras?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393996]...........Chica punta= just avoid, the beds arent fully clean, the water is cold, chicas are okay looking but they're clock watchers.

...............[/QUOTE]You have certainly given back to the forum and more. Regarding [URL]c.com[/URL] I think you probably made some bad choices; I have gotten really good service most of the time there. I got the feeling they were going through a bad patch during my visits there in August and September. The mamasan was not as friendly as in previous times.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2393871] Later this night I went to see the local soccer team Athletico National play in the stadium not far from my hotel. Had a great time! [/QUOTE]Hi Vern, thanks for the report.

Just one question: how was the football game? Did you feel safe at all times? Can you drink inside the ground?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2394129]Why did you not partake of extras?[/QUOTE]160 k included the great massage and full service. One of my best sessions of the whole week. And the timing was perfect after that long bus ride. Got to shower, relax, massage and sex.

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2394227]Hi Vern, thanks for the report.

Just one question: how was the football game? Did you feel safe at all times? Can you drink inside the ground?

Thank you![/QUOTE]The football game was a blast. I asked for the cheapest ticket, and I was crammed in the section with all the locals. People were incredibly nice. I was travelling by myself. They helped me find a seat that didn't have a water puddle in it from the rainstorm earlier. I don't drink, but vendors were walking around with beer. I am now a huge fan for life of Atletico National. I recommend this activity highly to anyone who likes futbol. I felt very safe. If you go, wear something green!

On Saturday I headed over to Energy first thing in the morning. I saw Mia, a young light skinned beauty. Nearly as good looking as Marcela. The rest of Saturday I rode the Metro and Metro cable. Went to the Arvi nature preserve. Got some good photos of the city from above. Saturday night, back to Conejitas again. On World Travel's list, certain places get a star for recommendation. I was wondering why Conejitas didn't have a star. That night I noticed the cockroaches for the first time and the room had no water whatsoever. Not even the cold water was working. Oh well. I would still give it a recommendation just because of the girls. Saw Ana Maria that night. 80 k. Another great time. Sunday morning before I had to make it over to the airport to catch my plane, I went over to New Life one last time. I saw a nice Venezuelan named Dana. Giant ass and tiny waist. Cute, great service. A very nice way to end my 10 days in Medellin. Thanks again to all the contributors to this board. Vern is out.

A guy once told me he rented an apartment above Conejitas for several months but had to move because there were so many cockroaches. I hadn't thought about that for years until I read this report. Everybody hates roaches. I can deal with them for hte time it takes to session but I can't abide living and eating in a place that is infested.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394244]On Saturday I headed over to Energy first thing in the morning. I saw Mia, a young light skinned beauty. Nearly as good looking as Marcela. The rest of Saturday I rode the Metro and Metro cable. Went to the Arvi nature preserve. Got some good photos of the city from above. Saturday night, back to Conejitas again. On World Travel's list, certain places get a star for recommendation. I was wondering why Conejitas didn't have a star. That night I noticed the cockroaches for the first time and the room had no water whatsoever. Not even the cold water was working. Oh well. I would still give it a recommendation just because of the girls. Saw Ana Maria that night. 80 k. Another great time. Sunday morning before I had to make it over to the airport to catch my plane, I went over to New Life one last time. I saw a nice Venezuelan named Dana. Giant ass and tiny waist. Cute, great service. A very nice way to end my 10 days in Medellin. Thanks again to all the contributors to this board. Vern is out.[/QUOTE]

Saw these in one of the units listed for rent in Provenza and had bought a similar styled one I saw roadside while driving from Pereira to Armenia about 10 years ago. I love this style and type of artwork and search for these sometimes when I am not mongering.

Where abouts in Medallo can I find either original oil painted works, reproductions or ceramic tiled versions?

Thanks so much!

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394242]The football game was a blast. I asked for the cheapest ticket, and I was crammed in the section with all the locals. People were incredibly nice. I was travelling by myself. They helped me find a seat that didn't have a water puddle in it from the rainstorm earlier. I don't drink, but vendors were walking around with beer. I am now a huge fan for life of Atletico National. I recommend this activity highly to anyone who likes futbol. I felt very safe. If you go, wear something green![/QUOTE]Thanks man, Will definitely check it out!

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394241]160 k included the great massage and full service. One of my best sessions of the whole week. And the timing was perfect after that long bus ride. Got to shower, relax, massage and sex.[/QUOTE]Never been there. Must check that place out when I return.

Any vets have a recommendation for moto parking near Conejitos? I was thinking about going in the early evening, but if I hunker-down for a bit, I don't want to have any issues after dark. Not to mention, here in Tierra de Zoolander, God only knows where I'd be able to make a left turn, if I was just cruising around looking for parking!

If anyone has a line on J. Balvin tickets for Nov 30, please PM me. For those of you who aren't too familiar with him, I would have to think the bars / clubs around Estadio will be full of good-looking Paisas, that night.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2392864]For those who are in Colombia or will be flying into or out of, or anywhere within the Colombia next Thursday, there will be a nationwide strike going on within the Country this day which includes the air traffic controllers, truckers, and many others all across the Country. From the Colombians I have spoken with, it may be a day of violence with predictions of over a million protesters in Bogota, and maybe as many as 100,000 in Medellin. Apparently the main protest locations in Medellin will be taking place in "EL Centro" in and around the government buildings. There also may be disruptions at other spots in the City, such as the Metro stations by the protesters. I don't know much more than this and have been told to be very careful around town on this day. Think in terms of what has happened in other South American countries lately, as this day of protest may have some similarities to what has occurred elsewhere. More information about this can be found on the Internet.[/QUOTE]For those currently in Colombia, the Government has announced border closures, curfews, and banning the sale of alcohol in Bogota, including the closure of many businesses, and the closure of all schools on Thursday. I don't know what controls the Government has planned for here in Medellin, however there will be a large March in downtown El Centro, either along Avenida Oriental or Avenida San Juan in the morning.

Just a heads up for those planning to visit the casa's or other parts of El Centro tomorrow because it may be a "cluster fuck" to get around.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394561]For those currently in Colombia, the Government has announced border closures, curfews, and banning the sale of alcohol in Bogota, including the closure of many businesses, and the closure of all schools on Thursday. I don't know what controls the Government has planned for here in Medellin, however there will be a large March in downtown El Centro, either along Avenida Oriental or Avenida San Juan in the morning.

Just a heads up for those planning to visit the casa's or other parts of El Centro tomorrow because it may be a "cluster fuck" to get around.[/QUOTE]I was in the Copa Lounge at the MDE airport last month. The bar tender and I were watching the riots in Chile and I mentioned it could happen in Medellin. He looked at me like I was crazy and perhaps he is correct. But I was in Santiago Chile last year and by all external measures it looked more peaceful, safe and content than Medellin ever has. Every time I have gotten an itch to buy a place in Medellin I have factored in that while Medellin is peaceful now, I have visited enough developing countries where that has changed on a dime. In any case while this is not the geo-political forum, please do keep us apprised of any impacts this unrest has in our beloved Medellin.

You can park your moto in the garage beneath the Nutibara. It's a very short and safe walk from there to Conejitas.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2394519]Any vets have a recommendation for moto parking near Conejitos? I was thinking about going in the early evening, but if I hunker-down for a bit, I don't want to have any issues after dark. Not to mention, here in Tierra de Zoolander, God only knows where I'd be able to make a left turn, if I was just cruising around looking for parking!

If anyone has a line on J. Balvin tickets for Nov 30, please PM me. For those of you who aren't too familiar with him, I would have to think the bars / clubs around Estadio will be full of good-looking Paisas, that night.[/QUOTE]

Pro tip for the demonstrations: if you want to do casa runs be sure to get to the east side of Avenida Oriental by 10 AM. If you try to cross any later after the demonstration starts you could find yourself caught up in the mess. It's the same thing every year for May Day. It's usually a lot of graffiti and rabble rousing but every so often somebody will start throwing bottles or rocks and the police will shoot off tear gas.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394561]For those currently in Colombia, the Government has announced border closures, curfews, and banning the sale of alcohol in Bogota, including the closure of many businesses, and the closure of all schools on Thursday. I don't know what controls the Government has planned for here in Medellin, however there will be a large March in downtown El Centro, either along Avenida Oriental or Avenida San Juan in the morning.

Just a heads up for those planning to visit the casa's or other parts of El Centro tomorrow because it may be a "cluster fuck" to get around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394242]I don't drink, but vendors were walking around with beer. I am now a huge fan for life of Atletico National. I recommend this activity highly to anyone who likes futbol. I felt very safe.[/QUOTE]They are non-alcoholic though.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2394242]If you go, wear something green![/QUOTE]Extremely important to do that. And if you don't have something green just by the t-shirt in one of many shops outside the stadium.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394561]For those currently in Colombia, the Government has announced border closures, curfews, and banning the sale of alcohol in Bogota, including the closure of many businesses, and the closure of all schools on Thursday. I don't know what controls the Government has planned for here in Medellin, however there will be a large March in downtown El Centro, either along Avenida Oriental or Avenida San Juan in the morning.

Just a heads up for those planning to visit the casa's or other parts of El Centro tomorrow because it may be a "cluster fuck" to get around.[/QUOTE]Think it could extend into Friday? I fly into Rio Negro at 3 PM however am staying in Poblado my first 4 nights. I tried San Peters with links provided in here however all the good high floors booked.

Ty,

Davis.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2394671]They are non-alcoholic though.

Extremely important to do that. And if you don't have something green just by the t-shirt in one of many shops outside the stadium.[/QUOTE]They sell non alcoholic beer??

I arrive Saturday and I'm in the city for the weekend only. Kinda got most of my dates set up, but I will be free Sunday from around 12 pm to 3 pm, I'll pretty much be posted up in Parque Botero. If anyone wants a your, I'll be around Sunday, but not for too long! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2394685]Think it could extend into Friday? I fly into Rio Negro at 3 PM however am staying in Poblado my first 4 nights. I tried San Peters with links provided in here however all the good high floors booked.

Ty,

Davis.[/QUOTE]From what I have heard, alcohol sales are only suspended until midnight on Thursday, and does not include any additional days in Medellin, that's what a cab driver told me yesterday. And as of 7 AM on Thursday morning, it's very quiet in Poblado, almost like a Sunday here with very little traffic on the streets.

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2394387]Thanks man, Will definitely check it out![/QUOTE]Definitely do it. It's one of the best things you can do to experience Colombian life as they do and have a great time. I sat in the student section which was ok one time but wouldn't suggest it and will sit somewhere else next time. They have a blast and it's an experience watching them dance and sing fight songs non stop. But the line to get in that section is long and slow due to super security and checkpoints.

Glad to see others getting down and enjoying Colombian life in this way! You are in for a great time!

P.S. even with 3 checkpoints which included frisking, they still manage to get Sister Mary into the stadium.

I visited Centro, last night, with wide eyes and big dreams. Unfortunately, as usual (for me), it fell flat. As mentioned in my previous post / question, I intended to take my moto, but it was raining. I ordered an Uber, and it took forever to get there. It's always a tough decision because I want to have a few beers, but I also want to be safe, while also not wanting to sit in an uber / taxi for 40+ minutes, nor having to wait for one when I want to leave. Anyhow.

I arrived around 7 p, and decided to look for a beer, before going into Conejitas. I ventured to Avenida Cundinamarca (west of Veracruz / Plaza Botero). There are a handful of little bars & casinos, and it's a fairly grimy area, for the faint of heart. I loved it. I popped into Fonda why Hacienda La Cascada, which was packed full of locals, watching the Nacional game. There are plenty of SW on Avenida Cundinamarca, and I didn't feel too out of place (I am clearly gringo, and younger than most in those places). I had one beer, took in the scene, and then intended to go to another bar on that strip. I ended up just going to Conejitas. The smell in this particular area of Centro is God-awful, in some places. I can see how this area can be of little or no interest to some, but I like to mix it up.

Conejitas had maybe 20 girls working / visible. No one was dancing, at the time. I sat for about 10 minutes, receiving "the look" from a couple of the girls. The others were either at tables, drinking with customers, playing on their phones, or just utterly non-present. None of the servers came over to my table. I left. I walked up the block to Grill Nueva Avenida, which was just as terrible as last time I stopped by. I took another lap of Botero / Veracruz, and saw a couple of good-looking darker girls. However, as a Centro rookie, I wasn't really in the mood to learn-on-the-go, as far as hotels, prices, etc. , despite having a general idea from the forum. Eventually, I made my way to Barra Ejecutiva, where they had the Nacional game on the huge projector screen. There were only a few customers, and they were all situated facing the screen. I ordered a beer, and then left when they said 15 k for a light beer. I then checked out Maracaibo, which was a sad vibe. Finally, I went to [URL]punto.com[/URL], but apparently just after closing time.

Thus, my Centro experience was exactly like the last time I tried a night out there. I don't know if I am just missing out on some little nooks and crannies, going at the wrong time, or what. I genuinely don't feel like it's my attitude, because I'm not trying to prove any other forum members wrong, or save money, etc. I think New Life is probably going to be my first stop, any future time I decide to go to Centro, so that the night is not completely a loss. I guess, in my opinion, comparing Centro MDE to Santa Fe BOG is just not even close to the same. Now, I have only been to Sante Fe once, and while it is even dirtier than the Veracruz area, with places equally as bad as Centro, I did have a fantastic time in what I think was Troya Nightlcub. So, maybe I am subconsciously comparing the two.

I would love to hear what others think about my approach, timing, etc.

On a side note, I got a 300 offer from an 18 yo looker on Tinder. She stuck to her guns when I said that price is fine, but the one hour time limit is not. I have yet to check out La Isla or Luna Lunera, but maybe spending more for the sure thing is more my style than Centro. I am going to check out Jade Salon Spa, today, which didn't have a great selection last time I stopped by. Tonight is ladies night at a couple places in Parque Lleras, and I wonder how the protests / recent pay-day will affect the crowds, tonight.

I went to New Life on Monday afternoon, and there were two 6+ types. I took J / Yulieta who had baby damage but was very personable and GFE.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394778]From what I have heard, alcohol sales are only suspended until midnight on Thursday, and does not include any additional days in Medellin, that's what a cab driver told me yesterday. And as of 7 AM on Thursday morning, it's very quiet in Poblado, almost like a Sunday here with very little traffic on the streets.[/QUOTE]Went to El Centro on Thursday and traveled there by the Metro at 11 AM in the morning. There was increased police presence at the Poblado, Estadio, and Parque Berrio stations and I suspect at all the other Metro Stations. More police with guns, etc. And I saw some random searches of peoples backpacks. While riding the Metro in the morning from San Antonio to Laureles I noticed protesters marching along one street, I saw a few roads shut down by the police, and lots of police on motorcycles. I also saw protesters in the Cisneros area in front of a government building as well. Also noticed very few people out and about including very few cars, taxis, trucks out on the streets while traveling on the Metro. When I arrived in El Centro, all of the bars on the backside of the Church were closed, but there were a few girls out working in front of the stairs to the short time Hotels. Typically at 11:30 AM its slow in El Centro, but the walkway area between the Museum and Carrea / Calle 52 seemed to have the same amount of girls out that I have seen at that time of day. I lucked out today because one of my favorites was out when I arrived so I didn't have to spend a lot of time there, and immediately took her upstairs, however I'm planning on going back at 5 PM.

Given the dire straits the Venezuelans are in, I am sure there will be plenty of them out this evening. I have no idea about what was happening in any other parts of the City, except what I observed in Parque Berrio and traveling on the Metro.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2394915]I visited Centro, last night, with wide eyes and big dreams. Unfortunately, as usual (for me), it fell flat. As mentioned in my previous post / question, I intended to take my moto, but it was raining. I ordered an Uber, and it took forever to get there. It's always a tough decision because I want to have a few beers, but I also want to be safe, while also not wanting to sit in an uber / taxi for 40+ minutes, nor having to wait for one when I want to leave. Anyhow.

I arrived around 7 p, and decided to look for a beer, before going into Conejitas. I ventured to Avenida Cundinamarca (west of Veracruz / Plaza Botero). There are a handful of little bars & casinos, and it's a fairly grimy area, for the faint of heart. I loved it. I popped into Fonda why Hacienda La Cascada, which was packed full of locals, watching the Nacional game. There are plenty of SW on Avenida Cundinamarca, and I didn't feel too out of place (I am clearly gringo, and younger than most in those places). I had one beer, took in the scene, and then intended to go to another bar on that strip. I ended up just going to Conejitas. The smell in this particular area of Centro is God-awful, in some places. I can see how this area can be of little or no interest to some, but I like to mix it up..[/QUOTE]Nice report, and a couple observations / thoughts. I'm not a bar guy, and having been to the Santa Fe area only once in Bogota, one of the differences I noticed, is that there is no SW scene immediately adjacent to the Santa Fe area like in Medellin.

With that being said, there have been numerous posts about the SW's in El Centro, specifically in the Botero Plaza area. Next time your around, I suggest you visit this area, specifically the intersection of Carrea / Calle 52 at 4 PM in the afternoon versus after 7 PM. For many of the SW's, most of them are mothers just trying to make money to get by, and a lot of them get the hell out of there by 7 PM in the evening. Pricing can range from 20 K to 35 K for the SW's, and the hotels can cost anywhere from 5 K to 22 K. With the pricing ranges I have given you, your learning curve is over, and your not going to go broke.

Try the place out within the time frame I've suggested, and perhaps you will have a positive experience to post.

Many countries have made it a hassle or outright very difficult to buy a pre paid tourist sim. Is it easily available in Colombia, specially at Bogota and Medellin airports?

Hey mates,

Long time lurker, first post here.

I've been mongering all over western europe, mainstays being lisbon and barcelona. The SW's are alright there, they get the job done for $30 euros.

Brothel girls can be drop dead gorgeous, I can't resist going downstairs on them / kissing if they're hot enough. It's almost a given if I find them on the escort sites over there, running about $60-80 a pop for 9/10 18 year olds full service for a hh. The dream right.

Luckily I've never caught anything after dozens of times.

I've gone back a few hundred pages on the Medellin thread to be prepared for my trip, and my question is that of cleanliness.

I would assume that you guys don't go down on / tongue kiss the street walkers that go for about 30 k COP right? Too grimey? I wouldn't unless maybe I'm there at 8 AM.

How "clean" would the brothel girls be? Or the ones on the escort sites like: [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL] that charge 50 k COP and up? Kissing the norm?

I'm thinking tinder / facebook girls should be good to go, especially if they charge 100 k COP and up.

I understand this can vary from person to person, just wondering on the overall sentiment on STI's and such with colombian women, I know it's always a dance with the devil.

Thanks for your time gents.

Michael M.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2394915]I visited Centro, last night, with wide eyes and big dreams. Unfortunately, as usual (for me), it fell flat.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for street girls, you can try to get there before 5 PM. You don't have to move around too much, just find a spot to station yourself to observe. For the first time, let the girl take you to the short time room. A mistake won't cost too much.

To me, casa is more of a day time activity. I usually don't go to the bar before 9 pm.

If you don't like El Centrol after a few times, it just mean you have different taste.

I agree with you about Santa Fe but the setup is different.

I was going to bring in some Vicky Secret I've read they like, any other small items they might like as gifts? Is there any way really to validate the quality of facebook chicas before booking?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2394915]I visited Centro, last night, with wide eyes and big dreams. Unfortunately, as usual (for me), it fell flat. As mentioned in my previous post / question, I intended to take my moto, but it was raining. I ordered an Uber, and it took forever to get there. It's always a tough decision because I want to have a few beers, but I also want to be safe, while also not wanting to sit in an uber / taxi for 40+ minutes, nor having to wait for one when I want to leave. Anyhow.

I arrived around 7 p, and decided to look for a beer, before going into Conejitas. I ventured to Avenida Cundinamarca (west of Veracruz / Plaza Botero). There are a handful of little bars & casinos, and it's a fairly grimy area, for the faint of heart. I loved it. I popped into Fonda why Hacienda La Cascada, which was packed full of locals, watching the Nacional game. There are plenty of SW on Avenida Cundinamarca, and I didn't feel too out of place (I am clearly gringo, and younger than most in those places). I had one beer, took in the scene, and then intended to go to another bar on that strip. I ended up just going to Conejitas. The smell in this particular area of Centro is God-awful, in some places. I can see how this area can be of little or no interest to some, but I like to mix it up.

Conejitas had maybe 20 girls working / visible. No one was dancing, at the time. I sat for about 10 minutes, receiving "the look" from a couple of the girls. The others were either at tables, drinking with customers, playing on their phones, or just utterly non-present. None of the servers came over to my table. I left. I walked up the block to Grill Nueva Avenida, which was just as terrible as last time I stopped by. I took another lap of Botero / Veracruz, and saw a couple of good-looking darker girls. However, as a Centro rookie, I wasn't really in the mood to learn-on-the-go, as far as hotels, prices, etc. , despite having a general idea from the forum. Eventually, I made my way to Barra Ejecutiva, where they had the Nacional game on the huge projector screen. There were only a few customers, and they were all situated facing the screen. I ordered a beer, and then left when they said 15 k for a light beer. I then checked out Maracaibo, which was a sad vibe. Finally, I went to [URL]punto.com[/URL], but apparently just after closing time.

Thus, my Centro experience was exactly like the last time I tried a night out there. I don't know if I am just missing out on some little nooks and crannies, going at the wrong time, or what. I genuinely don't feel like it's my attitude, because I'm not trying to prove any other forum members wrong, or save money, etc. I think New Life is probably going to be my first stop, any future time I decide to go to Centro, so that the night is not completely a loss. I guess, in my opinion, comparing Centro MDE to Santa Fe BOG is just not even close to the same. Now, I have only been to Sante Fe once, and while it is even dirtier than the Veracruz area, with places equally as bad as Centro, I did have a fantastic time in what I think was Troya Nightlcub. So, maybe I am subconsciously comparing the two.

I would love to hear what others think about my approach, timing, etc.

On a side note, I got a 300 offer from an 18 yo looker on Tinder. She stuck to her guns when I said that price is fine, but the one hour time limit is not. I have yet to check out La Isla or Luna Lunera, but maybe spending more for the sure thing is more my style than Centro. I am going to check out Jade Salon Spa, today, which didn't have a great selection last time I stopped by. Tonight is ladies night at a couple places in Parque Lleras, and I wonder how the protests / recent pay-day will affect the crowds, tonight.

I went to New Life on Monday afternoon, and there were two 6+ types. I took J / Yulieta who had baby damage but was very personable and GFE.[/QUOTE]It seems to me that you don't like listening to latin music nor drinking and hanging out + you prefer the women to do the work of appoaching you, if that's the case then don't do anymore strip clubs, this isn't a centro issue this is just a personality issue. I can sit down for 1-2 hrs at a strip club with minimal contact with the women and enjoy myself getting drunk, listening to music and watching chicas dance and tipping them in the process and when I'm ready I go make my selection.

It sounds like you'd prefer facebook, pp, tinder or a platform similar to this from reading your post so I'd suggest that. Most of the guys staying at my hotel didn't even really visit the strip clubs often, they seemed to prefer bringing chicas back to their place either from Botero Plaza, Yakuza casa next door or from online so i assume you're similar to these guys and should try that route.

Centro is not a night time scene except for the strip clubs. They are what they are, you don't seem to enjoy that strip club environment. I understand where you are coming from because I don't like it either. By now you realize the casas close between 6 and 7 pm, basically as soon as it gets dark because, again, Centro is not a night time scene. The Metro is an alternative to your motorcycle and ubers or taxis that you may find convenient. I hope you find something enjoyable to do in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2394915]I visited Centro, last night, with wide eyes and big dreams. Unfortunately, as usual (for me), it fell flat. As mentioned in my previous post / question, I intended to take my moto, but it was raining. I ordered an Uber, and it took forever to get there. It's always a tough decision because I want to have a few beers, but I also want to be safe, while also not wanting to sit in an uber / taxi for 40+ minutes, nor having to wait for one when I want to leave. Anyhow.

I arrived around 7 p, and decided to look for a beer, before going into Conejitas. I ventured to Avenida Cundinamarca (west of Veracruz / Plaza Botero). There are a handful of little bars & casinos, and it's a fairly grimy area, for the faint of heart. I loved it. I popped into Fonda why Hacienda La Cascada, which was packed full of locals, watching the Nacional game. There are plenty of SW on Avenida Cundinamarca, and I didn't feel too out of place (I am clearly gringo, and younger than most in those places). I had one beer, took in the scene, and then intended to go to another bar on that strip. I ended up just going to Conejitas. The smell in this particular area of Centro is God-awful, in some places. I can see how this area can be of little or no interest to some, but I like to mix it up..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2395031]I was going to bring in some Vicky Secret I've read they like, any other small items they might like as gifts? Is there any way really to validate the quality of facebook chicas before booking?[/QUOTE]Chocolates.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2394996]Many countries have made it a hassle or outright very difficult to buy a pre paid tourist sim. Is it easily available in Colombia, specially at Bogota and Medellin airports?[/QUOTE]Yes, no ID required. About 10 mil pesos.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2395155]It seems to me that you don't like listening to latin music nor drinking and hanging out + you prefer the women to do the work of appoaching you, if that's the case then don't do anymore strip clubs, this isn't a centro issue this is just a personality issue. I can sit down for 1-2 hrs at a strip club with minimal contact with the women and enjoy myself getting drunk, listening to music and watching chicas dance and tipping them in the process and when I'm ready I go make my selection.

It sounds like you'd prefer facebook, pp, tinder or a platform similar to this from reading your post so I'd suggest that. Most of the guys staying at my hotel didn't even really visit the strip clubs often, they seemed to prefer bringing chicas back to their place either from Botero Plaza, Yakuza casa next door or from online so i assume you're similar to these guys and should try that route.[/QUOTE]I can see where you would deduce that, but in reality, I love latin music, drinking, and hanging out. I guess, it was just the combination of being sober, no girls dancing, and really no vibe in Conejitas, at the time.

I appreciate all of the input. I will give Centro a try in the late afternoon. I haven't written it off, just yet.

Yesterday, I stopped by Jade Palace Spa, and had a selection of 4 masajistas. I chose Luna. She looked surprisingly much better when she shed her masseuse garb for her bra & panties. She was fun, and attentive. The massage table routine is a little interesting, but all-in-all, a decent massage and good service (for 160 k). There were 3 gringos waiting in the lobby as I was leaving, and 2 locals that probably had decided to not wait around. This was early-afternoon.

In the late-evening, I went to Hooters to watch the TNF game, and get dinner / beers. The bartender is worth the trip. Last time I saw her, she was waitressing. She has braces but a cute face and cartoon body. There is another server that looks like a f'ing peanut; just amazingly curvy, and a face like that social media chick Brittanya. After, I went to Bendito Seas for Ladies Night (40 k cover for men on Thursdays / open bar until 1 a). They also offered 20 k cover with no open bar. As a single, it's really not a great deal, as far as the alcohol. They serve piss-cup size beer, vodka, or rum, with an ice cube. The last two times I've gone, they have ran out of 1 or 2 of the options. If you go as a group, I would recommend getting a table. I think if you buy a bottle, you can get one. I don't know the pricing.

I left around 2 a, maybe, and decided to check out Gustos. I know, I know. Well, 20 k entry, but the talent was amazing. "25 k" for a beer, despite the receipt saying 22 k + impuesto that comes out to 24 k. So, that's a little bit of a turn-off, if you're a drinker. Anyhow, the first stunner quoted $250 (note the currency). I declined, and she gave attitude. The place was packed, and I'm sure some of the groups of gentlemen in there, on their short vacations, were more than happy to foot the bill. I'm wondering if La Isla or Fase II could have competed with the talent, for a Thursday night. I would guess not. I finally hit it off with a tall brunette with light eyes, and a beautiful face. She was skinny, although, later found out (as I would have bet, with a gun to my head) that she is a mother. No baby damage, but not as tight as she probably once was, in terms of her T&A. She quoted $200. She spoke decent English, so combined with my decent Spanish, we were able to establish as much of a client-provider connection as you could hope. In the end, shower, CBJ, GFE, TLN, 500 k. In my head, that's 10 pops at New Life, but. I like to mix it up.

Thursday was a good day, and has seemed to spark the fire that appeared dormant for a few days. I am here for just over a month, compared to my normal 5-7 day trip. So, maybe it was a little complacency in knowing I have plenty of time, but I was starting to worry myself. A pit stop at the blue door broke the streak, and Thursday has me back in the saddle.

In fact, I might just take a shower and hit Centro!

Much thanks to everyone for the shared info, and I want to specifically shout-out WorldTraveler69 for his map (s)! It's a life saver. I also used them in Bogota, on my maiden voyage, which was incredibly helpful.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2395168]Centro is not a night time scene except for the strip clubs. They are what they are, you don't seem to enjoy that strip club environment. I understand where you are coming from because I don't like it either. By now you realize the casas close between 6 and 7 pm, basically as soon as it gets dark because, again, Centro is not a night time scene. The Metro is an alternative to your motorcycle and ubers or taxis that you may find convenient. I hope you find something enjoyable to do in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Good idea! I always forget about the metro. I love the European / Asian public transportation systems, but I have never tried the MDE Metro. Is it fairly straight-forward at the stations, when it comes to purchasing a ticket / selecting a destination / etc.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2395031] Is there any way really to validate the quality of facebook chicas before booking?[/QUOTE]That's hilarious! I guess it's the word "booking" you used that made me laugh. So imagine a website like Trivago for FB Chicas. You could have all kinds of selection criteria along with ratings, but the FB Chicas would be in lieu of the Hotel's. And imagine a commercial where there is a group of guys all talking about what a hot deal they got, and than one of the guys say's " I got a BBBJ and CIM, and two hours for say 220 K, and another guy says,"I got the same thing for 150 K", and than all the other-guys look dumb-founded at one another for paying so much more than this guy.

To answer your question, your going to have to comb thru all the posts where guys have identified FB Chicas they have had good experiences with, however just because they had a good experience doesn't mean you will. I have suggested a separate thread for this in Medellin, but have been shot down by other members regarding this.

Hey guys, as always thank you for the reports and posts. Does anyone have any recommendations for high end women? I am looking for hot pornstar / model types not the centro crack heads. And the casas are good, I usually find a gem in one but I would like a selection of 10's. Thanks again for all the reports etc.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2395031]I was going to bring in some Vicky Secret I've read they like, any other small items they might like as gifts? Is there any way really to validate the quality of facebook chicas before booking?[/QUOTE]Lollipops or candy from other countries, panties, gym clothing, cosmetics / perfume, handbags, some girls have begged for hats because they have an American city on them. All have worked, for me.

FB girls, in my experience, are cycled through pretty well. You can probably search the forum to find info on 75% of them.

One thing I forgot in my report: SmartFit at Tesoro mall is the holy grail. Friday, 10 am. Stunners everywhere. I got a 30-day membership for around 150 k that allows me to use all the SmartFit locations. Bodytech was 220 k. I will tour the various locations, but I'd imagine Tesoro will become my normal destination. I don't know if SmartFit allows it, but in the past, I always went to different Bodytech locations, using various IDs (passport, drivers license, copy of old passport) and got a free day trial. They used your ID# for the entry code, so you don't need to worry about them catching on, unless you go to the same gym, with the same ID, and the same employee is working.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394934]Went to El Centro on Thursday and traveled there by the Metro at 11 AM in the morning. There was increased police presence at the Poblado, Estadio, and Parque Berrio stations and I suspect at all the other Metro Stations. More police with guns, etc. And I saw some random searches of peoples backpacks. While riding the Metro in the morning from San Antonio to Laureles I noticed protesters marching along one street, I saw a few roads shut down by the police, and lots of police on motorcycles. I also saw protesters in the Cisneros area in front of a government building as well. Also noticed very few people out and about including very few cars, taxis, trucks out on the streets while traveling on the Metro. When I arrived in El Centro, all of the bars on the backside of the Church were closed, but there were a few girls out working in front of the stairs to the short time Hotels. Typically at 11:30 AM its slow in El Centro, but the walkway area between the Museum and Carrea / Calle 52 seemed to have the same amount of girls out that I have seen at that time of day. I lucked out today because one of my favorites was out when I arrived so I didn't have to spend a lot of time there, and immediately took her upstairs, however I'm planning on going back at 5 PM.

Given the dire straits the Venezuelans are in, I am sure there will be plenty of them out this evening. I have no idea about what was happening in any other parts of the City, except what I observed in Parque Berrio and traveling on the Metro.[/QUOTE]There was a national protest yesterday that why more police they were prepared for violence which did go down in Cali and Bogata.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2395240]Good idea! I always forget about the metro. I love the European / Asian public transportation systems, but I have never tried the MDE Metro. Is it fairly straight-forward at the stations, when it comes to purchasing a ticket / selecting a destination / etc.[/QUOTE]I usually buy 6 tickets at a time. It all comes on a card. Just walk up to the window with a 20 k (or 50 k bill if you're trying to get some change) and tell the guy "seis. " You'll get a card. For the first 5 rides, hold the card up to the card reader. For the last ride you have to put it in the slot.

There is no choosing destinations. Just have to get on the train going the right direction. From Poblado, you'll go towards Niquia to get to El Centro. To go back to Poblado get on for Las Estrellas.

Parque Berrio station is closest to the SWs and the El Centro strip clubs. Prado is slightly closer to some of the casas, but it's a bit rougher of an area.

If you're going to Laureles, get off at San Antonio station and go upstairs to catch the train. It only goes one way from El Centro. Get off at Estadio station for the La 70 area of nightclubs.

You can transfer from train to train, or train to metrocable without paying an additional fare. There's an additional fare if you take the 2nd metrocable up to Parque Arvi, and a fare if you take the Tranvia from the San Antonio station. There's also a separate charge if you take the L1 and L2 metro bus lines from the Industriales station.

I believe current fare is 2550 COP.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2395276]There was a national protest yesterday that why more police they were prepared for violence which did go down in Cali and Bogata.[/QUOTE]Yes I know that, and although it was peaceful in Medellin, the Government in Bogota declared a citywide curfew beginning at 9 PM on Friday until 6 AM on Saturday including all bars, restaurants and other public places.

So that means after 9 PM if your weren't indoors you could be subject to detention or arrest.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2395240]Good idea! I always forget about the metro. I love the European / Asian public transportation systems, but I have never tried the MDE Metro. Is it fairly straight-forward at the stations, when it comes to purchasing a ticket / selecting a destination / etc.[/QUOTE]The Metro is fantastic and easy to navigate, however at times, like at rush hour, it can be a nightmare. As an example, at the Poblado Metro Station between about 5 PM and 6:30 PM there typically is a line that could take up to twenty minutes to board the Metro.

Additionally, you can buy tickets which will be in the form of a white and green card, and you can purchase up to five trips per card. The best way to go though, is to buy a "Civica" card, it's green in color and you can load it up with as much as you want. In other words you can load it up with say 50 K which will be good for something like 17 or 18 one way trips. But another advantage is that when you use a Civica card, versus the white and green card, it will also include fares on the connecting bus lines at no additional cost.

[QUOTE=MedalloPack;2395244]Hey guys, as always thank you for the reports and posts. Does anyone have any recommendations for high end women? I am looking for hot pornstar / model types not the centro crack heads. And the casas are good, I usually find a gem in one but I would like a selection of 10's. Thanks again for all the reports etc.[/QUOTE]Try La Isla, the best time to go is around 10 pm on Thursday night. You will find plenty of 10's, the only issue for me is that most of the girls there are between 22-26, I like girls from 18-21, if older age is not an issue you, La Isla is the place for you.

[QUOTE=MedalloPack;2395244]Hey guys, as always thank you for the reports and posts. Does anyone have any recommendations for high end women? I am looking for hot pornstar / model types not the centro crack heads. And the casas are good, I usually find a gem in one but I would like a selection of 10's. Thanks again for all the reports etc.[/QUOTE]And photoprepagos is what you need, just look through the selection and pay your $250 usd, you'll find some nice looking women at that price especially at that price for 2 hours, leave those Centro crackheads for mongers like me, pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2395326]The Metro is fantastic and easy to navigate, however at times, like at rush hour, it can be a nightmare. As an example, at the Poblado Metro Station between about 5 PM and 6:30 PM there typically is a line that could take up to twenty minutes to board the Metro.[/QUOTE]If it's anything like Athens / Rome, that's a breeding ground for pick pocketing. And it is Latin America.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2395364]Try La Isla, the best time to go is around 10 pm on Thursday night. You will find plenty of 10's, the only issue for me is that most of the girls there are between 22-26, I like girls from 18-21, if older age is not an issue you, La Isla is the place for you.[/QUOTE]I know I'm getting old when 22-26 is considered "older age" for a beautiful paisa! Hahaha. I was at La Isla last year. Yes, gorgeous women, anywhere from 21 to OMG 28. I noticed a lot of culo implants though. Most of their going rates are 300 K per hour, but I went on a Friday night. Went to a spa (the name escapes me), my concierge guide took me. It's up a hill in a compound formerly owned by Pablo. Great lineup, easily 5 or 6 9's to choose from. 290 K for an hour. Well worth it. I'm sure someone on this board may know the place.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2395476]If it's anything like Athens / Rome, that's a breeding ground for pick pocketing. And it is Latin America.[/QUOTE]After 300-400 trips on the Medellin Metro and about 40-50 trips on the Bogota Transmilenio, I've yet to be pick pocketed. On several occasions other passengers have pointed out to me that my phone was sticking out of my back pocket, my backpack was partly unzipped, or my shoe was untied. I've been on both systems when they are packed well beyond capacity.

I'm not saying it's impossible to get your pockets picked, but most people should be okay, if they pay attention.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2395401]And photoprepagos is what you need, just look through the selection and pay your $250 usd, you'll find some nice looking women at that price especially at that price for 2 hours, leave those Centro crackheads for mongers like me, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]The crazy thing is that although he's not being literal I have to say I did see a crackhead smoking weed and scouraging for food in the trash in Centro who was super slim and actually pretty cute & would be like a 7-8 in my country. Colombian women are just perfect as long as you like petite, brown skin, cute faces & round butts. I saw women selling trinkets in Centro on the side of the road who maybe make $200-300 USD per month who were 7-8's, Colombia is a beautiful country for a single man & I think the next time I go as my Spanish should be fluent I may go the non pro route as the normal girls were for sure prettier in the face than the pros & everybody seems fairly friendly.

PolloNegro, what's your take on chatting up the females selling from handcarts and working in restaurants as servers in Centro? Are they hard to get in bed, does normal Colombian women have a hookup culture? I can't imagine these women playing hard to get considering how easy sex is to get for men due to prostitution being legal and so widespread.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2395476]If it's anything like Athens / Rome, that's a breeding ground for pick pocketing. And it is Latin America.[/QUOTE]I have a pac safe shoulder bag. I ride the Metro all the time and don't worry about the pickpockets.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2395295]

Parque Berrio station is closest to the SWs and the El Centro strip clubs. Prado is slightly closer to some of the casas, but it's a bit rougher of an area.


I believe current fare is 2550 COP.[/QUOTE]I found the best way to New Life from Prado is to walk along Calle 58 all the way to Cor. 43, then go south to Calle 56 and you're basically there. That seemed the safest route. It's about a 10 minute walk, or so. 2550 is the fare, and now I have a 50 peso coin for change, which is about one tenth of a penny.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2395521]I found the best way to New Life from Prado is to walk along Calle 58 all the way to Cor. 43, then go south to Calle 56 and you're basically there. That seemed the safest route. It's about a 10 minute walk, or so. 2550 is the fare, and now I have a 50 peso coin for change, which is about one tenth of a penny.[/QUOTE]Next time you're at New Life, do yourself a favor. When you leave New Life, walk out the door and turn right. Go to the corner and turn right. About halfway down the block is a little restaurant with the menu written on a blackboard and a bakery case in front. Eat there.

The name is Delicias Al Natural. The owner Juan is a great guy and speaks excellent English. Carrera 43 #55-35. Cheap and excellent food.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2395240]Good idea! I always forget about the metro. I love the European / Asian public transportation systems, but I have never tried the MDE Metro. Is it fairly straight-forward at the stations, when it comes to purchasing a ticket / selecting a destination / etc.[/QUOTE]Others have already responded with some good details, but here is an article I found that really helped.

[URL]https://medellinguru.com/metro/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2395245]Lollipops or candy from other countries, panties, gym clothing, cosmetics / perfume, handbags, some girls have begged for hats because they have an American city on them. All have worked, for me.

FB girls, in my experience, are cycled through pretty well. You can probably search the forum to find info on 75% of them.

One thing I forgot in my report: SmartFit at Tesoro mall is the holy grail. Friday, 10 am. Stunners everywhere. I got a 30-day membership for around 150 k that allows me to use all the SmartFit locations. Bodytech was 220 k. I will tour the various locations, but I'd imagine Tesoro will become my normal destination. I don't know if SmartFit allows it, but in the past, I always went to different Bodytech locations, using various IDs (passport, drivers license, copy of old passport) and got a free day trial. They used your ID# for the entry code, so you don't need to worry about them catching on, unless you go to the same gym, with the same ID, and the same employee is working.[/QUOTE]So you just holler at them in the gym? I am middle aged but lift weights, so maybe its a decent plan.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2395485]I know I'm getting old when 22-26 is considered "older age" for a beautiful paisa! Hahaha. I was at La Isla last year. Yes, gorgeous women, anywhere from 21 to OMG 28. I noticed a lot of culo implants though. Most of their going rates are 300 K per hour, but I went on a Friday night. Went to a spa (the name escapes me), my concierge guide took me. It's up a hill in a compound formerly owned by Pablo. Great lineup, easily 5 or 6 9's to choose from. 290 K for an hour. Well worth it. I'm sure someone on this board may know the place.[/QUOTE]I believe the spa is called loutron. I heard good things about this place, I have never been there.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2395485]I know I'm getting old when 22-26 is considered "older age" for a beautiful paisa! Hahaha. I was at La Isla last year. Yes, gorgeous women, anywhere from 21 to OMG 28. I noticed a lot of culo implants though. Most of their going rates are 300 K per hour, but I went on a Friday night. Went to a spa (the name escapes me), my concierge guide took me. It's up a hill in a compound formerly owned by Pablo. Great lineup, easily 5 or 6 9's to choose from. 290 K for an hour. Well worth it. I'm sure someone on this board may know the place.[/QUOTE]Do girls at that spa also have lots of implants?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2395603]I believe the spa is called loutron. I heard good things about this place, I have never been there.[/QUOTE]That would be correct! During my "what too short" 6 night stay in Poblado, I visited that spa twice (visited La Isla twice too.) The mujeres were sweet, sexy and very service oriented (at least in my experience). Next time (Oct 2020) I will be visiting some casas and have a few prepagios lined up as back up. Crazy thing about Medellin, even the MILFs in coffee shops are hot. God I love that place. Jajaja.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2395295]I usually buy 6 tickets at a time. It all comes on a card. Just walk up to the window with a 20 k (or 50 k bill if you're trying to get some change) and tell the guy "seis. " You'll get a card. For the first 5 rides, hold the card up to the card reader. For the last ride you have to put it in the slot.

There is no choosing destinations. Just have to get on the train going the right direction. From Poblado, you'll go towards Niquia to get to El Centro. To go back to Poblado get on for Las Estrellas.

Parque Berrio station is closest to the SWs and the El Centro strip clubs. Prado is slightly closer to some of the casas, but it's a bit rougher of an area.

If you're going to Laureles, get off at San Antonio station and go upstairs to catch the train. It only goes one way from El Centro. Get off at Estadio station for the La 70 area of nightclubs.

You can transfer from train to train, or train to metrocable without paying an additional fare. There's an additional fare if you take the 2nd metrocable up to Parque Arvi, and a fare if you take the Tranvia from the San Antonio station. There's also a separate charge if you take the L1 and L2 metro bus lines from the Industriales station.[/QUOTE]If you use a Civica card, which doesn't cost any thing, but can be loaded up with as much as you want, it will include the L1 and L2 Metro bus lines at no extra charge. So as an example, if your traveling from say Poblado to Bellen, you would board in Poblado and swipe your card to board the Metro, then at the Industralies station you would get off, and walk to the L1/2 bus station and when you swipe your card at the turnstile your not charged another fare.

Hey guys,

First trip to Colombia soon, been mongering in Europe (and the USA hehe) several times.

I speak fluent Spanish, grew up in the bronx, not worried about the streets, I can conduct myself.

*My question is, which casitas / clubs have the least amount of gringos? (preferably none).

I plan on being in centro in the am, escort pages at night, and clubs / casas in the afternoon. I would dread seeing a bunch of gringo tourists in the waiting room or strip club bars.

I understand Bar Montijo and Grill occidental are pretty local? And the further north you go past metro prado, the real freak show begins?

Special thanks to PolloNegro, Jjbee, Wolf, Tall man, and barboa, you legends have been absolutely a tremendous help, any newbie should read most all of their posts.

Cheers,

John.

Are the sessions with SW, casa girls, and escorts on prepagos usually have DFK and DATY as the norm? Or is it usually negotiated before hand?

As I understand it, GFE is pretty big in MDE.

It is always a ***** in the states when you can't kiss or sometimes even touch their lady parts, hard to finish.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2395243]That's hilarious! I guess it's the word "booking" you used that made me laugh. So imagine a website like Trivago for FB Chicas. You could have all kinds of selection criteria along with ratings, but the FB Chicas would be in lieu of the Hotel's. And imagine a commercial where there is a group of guys all talking about what a hot deal they got, and than one of the guys say's " I got a BBBJ and CIM, and two hours for say 220 K, and another guy says,"I got the same thing for 150 K", and than all the other-guys look dumb-founded at one another for paying so much more than this guy.

To answer your question, your going to have to comb thru all the posts where guys have identified FB Chicas they have had good experiences with, however just because they had a good experience doesn't mean you will. I have suggested a separate thread for this in Medellin, but have been shot down by other members regarding this.[/QUOTE]There's a damn ton of them, I have friended hundreds. It seems very common for Latin women to post suggestive pictures on FB its hard to tell who is working. I mean some come right out and say it, but theres so damn many I'm trying to find the diamonds in the rough that don't yet have 5000 gringo friends LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395673]Are the sessions with SW, casa girls, and escorts on prepagos usually have DFK and DATY as the norm? Or is it usually negotiated before hand?

As I understand it, GFE is pretty big in MDE.

It is always a ***** in the states when you can't kiss or sometimes even touch their lady parts, hard to finish.[/QUOTE]Always negotiate services before commit to a session. Out of the 50+ girls I fucked in Medellin, only 1 casa girl didn't do DFK and BBBJ.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2395487]The crazy thing is that although he's not being literal I have to say I did see a crackhead smoking weed and scouraging for food in the trash in Centro who was super slim and actually pretty cute & would be like a 7-8 in my country. Colombian women are just perfect as long as you like petite, brown skin, cute faces & round butts. I saw women selling trinkets in Centro on the side of the road who maybe make $200-300 USD per month who were 7-8's, Colombia is a beautiful country for a single man & I think the next time I go as my Spanish should be fluent I may go the non pro route as the normal girls were for sure prettier in the face than the pros & everybody seems fairly friendly.

PolloNegro, what's your take on chatting up the females selling from handcarts and working in restaurants as servers in Centro? Are they hard to get in bed, does normal Colombian women have a hookup culture? I can't imagine these women playing hard to get considering how easy sex is to get for men due to prostitution being legal and so widespread.[/QUOTE]Algo más (do you sell more) 99% usually do. I landed at 3 pm Saturday and have bagged 5 chics since 5 pm, stay tuned! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395667]*My question is, which casitas / clubs have the least amount of gringos? (preferably none).[/QUOTE]All of them except New Life. Just because you see a few posts on here, do not think the local spots are over run with foreigners. You hardly see a one. The most you will see is at New Life and Gustos.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395673]Are the sessions with SW, casa girls, and escorts on prepagos usually have DFK and DATY as the norm? Or is it usually negotiated before hand?

As I understand it, GFE is pretty big in MDE..[/QUOTE]Most of what you mentioned is not the norm and can be negotiated beforehand, and GFE can be found.

I think after you arrive, you may re-think wanting to do some of this stuff with the SW's and Casa girls given the "venues".

Your best bets will be the Prepagos / Escorts for what your looking for.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395667]............*My question is, which casitas / clubs have the least amount of gringos? (preferably none).............[/QUOTE]I have never seen a gringo in Pamela's. I have seen at least one in most other casas I've been to. Ten years ago and before I never saw a gringo in a casa, not even New Life.

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2395549]Others have already responded with some good details, but here is an article I found that really helped.

[URL]https://medellinguru.com/metro/[/URL][/QUOTE]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2395693]Always negotiate services before commit to a session. Out of the 50+ girls I fucked in Medellin, only 1 casa girl didn't do DFK and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]In your case, I think you have to factor in your look, or age. Neither is automatic from lower price casas or street girls for me the first time. I either have to pay extra, or sometimes got very little if agreed. I can get them from higher price girls with very little negotiation. I got neither at Loutron but I did not negotiate. I actually did not like Loutron because it is priced like Bangkok but the setup and service is subpar compare to what one can get in BKK. The girls are above average but I feel they are older. If I want pretty girls for the same price, I just go to La Isla.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395835]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.[/QUOTE]The metro here is very basic. It charges by entry, not distance. For shorter distance, taxi is door to door will be a better to some.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2395702]Algo ms (do you sell more) 99% usually do. I landed at 3 pm Saturday and have bagged 5 chics since 5 pm, stay tuned! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Woa woa woa! My guy, these are some wild allegations my brother. Are you saying that most women who are let's say middle to lower class have sold or are willing to sell themselves? I find such a statement problematic but I don't know; what are normal Colombian women stance / thoughts on prositution in general?

BTW, if that's the case, have you seen the slim, quiet & light skin / pale chica who works the front desk at Ayenda botero hotel? She always works morning & afternoon shifts, if she's on the table let me know because I loved seeing her every morning.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395667]Hey guys,

First trip to Colombia soon, been mongering in Europe (and the USA hehe) several times.

I speak fluent Spanish, grew up in the bronx, not worried about the streets, I can conduct myself.

*My question is, which casitas / clubs have the least amount of gringos? (preferably none).

I plan on being in centro in the am, escort pages at night, and clubs / casas in the afternoon. I would dread seeing a bunch of gringo tourists in the waiting room or strip club bars.

I understand Bar Montijo and Grill occidental are pretty local? And the further north you go past metro prado, the real freak show begins?

Special thanks to PolloNegro, Jjbee, Wolf, Tall man, and barboa, you legends have been absolutely a tremendous help, any newbie should read most all of their posts.

Cheers,

John.[/QUOTE]Strip Club-wise gringos are very rare in the Centro clubs and even kind of rare at Fase II, every time I have been there the only gringos came with me.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2394975]I'm not a bar guy, and having been to the Santa Fe area only once in Bogota, one of the differences I noticed, is that there is no SW scene immediately adjacent to the Santa Fe area like in Medellin.[/QUOTE]The street girls can go into bars. The girls you see standing around in the bars are freelancers and they can move from bar to bar, also the girls standing in front of ST hotels. It works the same way like with SW. You should have seen some SW on the street perpendicular to Cr 16. There is at least one street adjacent to Santa Fe that is full of them.

[QUOTE=Gmanifestoo;2394998]

I've been mongering all over western europe, mainstays being lisbon and barcelona. The SW's are alright there, they get the job done for $30 euros.

Brothel girls can be drop dead gorgeous, I can't resist going downstairs on them / kissing if they're hot enough.[/QUOTE]Don't have answer about STI. For lower price girls that you are asking in general, you have to ask them to shower if you are in a room with functional shower. You are lucky if you get hot water and two towels. New Life is pretty well run, they give you one towel and the girl frequently will bring her own towel. Or is it they give two towels? In some places, it is obvious they don't wash at all between customers, Once you get here, it is easy to determine yourself. If you bring girl to your own room, you can eliminate some of the issues.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395835]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.[/QUOTE]I originally used my roommate's Civics card. As a student she got a discount. I would just top it off whenever there was no line.

I noticed in July that Metro usage was up a lot from 15 months before. Longer lines at the ticket window and really long lines at the Civica booth. My way to minimize the delay is to buy multiple trips whenever there's no line.

Just paying full price I can make 6 round trips to El Centro for the cost of a 1 way taxi ride.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2395946]The street girls can go into bars. The girls you see standing around in the bars are freelancers and they can move from bar to bar, also the girls standing in front of ST hotels. It works the same way like with SW. You should have seen some SW on the street perpendicular to Cr 16. There is at least one street adjacent to Santa Fe that is full of them.[/QUOTE]This is good information, I just didn't like Bogota, to hard to get around, super crowded and congested, and the Santa Fe scene just didn't do it for me.

However I did notice one Bar that advertised, or I should say the "barker" in front of the bar proclaimed that all the girls working inside were Paisa's from Medellin.

It was almost as though he was selling a brand of meat, kinda like Angus Certified steak, and I suppose he was!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395835]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.[/QUOTE]This doesn't make any sense, it's always the same price for a ride whether you have a single ticket or Civica for a ride, always. And with a Civica transfers to the bus lines are included. So your information is inaccurate. And as far as the long lines of people buying tickets, it's not because a single ticket is cheaper than a Civica. The reality is that the majority of the riders on the Metro have Civica cards so, 1) they do not have to wait in lines to buy individual tickets, and 2) enjoy the cost savings associated with the inclusion of the bus lines at no cost by using a Civica.

One of the posters identified a link to an article on the Metro which will help everyone have a better understanding of the Metro system, the fares, and the Civica, etc.

Based on your questions, I recommend you avoid New Life. All the others are about equal in terms of gringo population. Aiffe tends to get a little of the gringo overflow because it is so close to New Life. If you are BX then you will be alright. Centro will remind you of Hunts Point at 1 am Circa 1989.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2395667]Hey guys,

First trip to Colombia soon, been mongering in Europe (and the USA hehe) several times.

I speak fluent Spanish, grew up in the bronx, not worried about the streets, I can conduct myself.

*My question is, which casitas / clubs have the least amount of gringos? (preferably none).

I plan on being in centro in the am, escort pages at night, and clubs / casas in the afternoon. I would dread seeing a bunch of gringo tourists in the waiting room or strip club bars.[/QUOTE]

I think you are right on both points. The civica card is a great deal if you transfer lines and use buses. Even if you don't, although the per ride cost is a bit more than single tickets, it is worthwhile because you avoid the crazy long ticket lines at rush hour.

Medellin taxis are an amazing value. They aren't very comfortable but 10 k to 20 k gets you between most any two points within the city limits. The Metro is a better bet during rush hour traffic. At peak times you sometimes have to wait for a train or two to pass before you can get on and it is sardine can city but you pass by all the traffic jams. I stick to uber unless I'm in a hurry and I don't have time to wait for uber to show up. In those situations it's much quicker to grab a taxi.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395835]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.[/QUOTE]

Abydos was very popular with gringos going back 10 to 15 years. It had the same owner as Loutron, which also got its share of gringos in those days. These days of course there are more everywhere, even Veracruz.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395830]I have never seen a gringo in Pamela's. I have seen at least one in most other casas I've been to. Ten years ago and before I never saw a gringo in a casa, not even New Life.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2395549]Others have already responded with some good details, but here is an article I found that really helped.

[URL]https://medellinguru.com/metro/[/URL][/QUOTE]I just read thru it.

[QUOTE=medellinguru.com]
The 2019 standard Medelln Metro fare with a Civica card is 2,255 pesos ($0.69), which is up from 2,125 pesos in 2018 and up from 2,000 pesos in 2017.

The standard fare in 2019 if you dont have a Civica card is 2,550 pesos ($0.79), which is up from 2,400 pesos in 2018.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=medellinguru.com]

So, you save 295 pesos (11.6 percent) per standard trip with a Civica card. As a result of using a Civica card I estimate I save over $60 USD per year with lower fares.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2396007]I just read thru it.[/QUOTE]It's amazing that there are members who are of the belief that a Civica costs more to use the Metro than buying single tickets. With out even reading what is contained in the article, it is a no brainier that the Civica saves you money. How do I know this, because the majority of the riders, including myself, use a Civica card.

I suppose for someone who hasn't ridden the Metro recently, they would not be aware of all the riders using them. If the Civica card actually cost more money to use than the Metro single tickets, nobody would use it, and it wouldn't exist.

It makes senses there would be a discount with the civica. Most metro systems do it that way. Honestly, I've never checked. It's not a big difference but it can add up over the years.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2396007]I just read thru it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2395835]I find taxis very reasonably priced in Medellin and use them. Some years ago I tried the metro and bought a civica card which you can top up but I found that I was not getting the value for what I paid and was actually paying more per trip than what I paid for a single way ticket. Now there are always long lines of locals buying single tickets; I suspect the reason.[/QUOTE]I'm on the same boat with the taxis and Uber. On my next trip I'll definitely give the metro a shot just for the experience. And like others have posted on here, avoid rush hour if possible. Whether it's the Metro or Taxis, you're going to be wasting much time commuting. I learned this the hard way a few times. Especially when inviting a chica over around that time.

Well 1st off I was so exhausted from the flight down from Austin leaving at 522 AM before with only 3 hours of Xanax induced sleep I couldn't do too much my first day. ATX such a growing region hopefully they at least add a direct flight to BOG soon. Anyways even if I used my dated contact list those chics long either upgraded themselves or out the biz. And with travel fatigue coming from ATX (12 hours flight airport time etc.) I proly would of made huge mistakes. So my first night just hunkered close to home in my nice Poblado renta only a 3 minute walk to fine dining, grocery store and nice eye candy even though they "not in the biz".

Day 2 still tired but after had a good meal at Crepes-and-Waffels Lieras by 4 PM was ready to pound. Took the Metro to Estadio then made the walk to Energy. Was going to try New Life but it was later in the day and figured most good pickings now very tired in their legs. Great lineup at Energy about 12 chicas all I would DO. Selected red hair dyed Samantha cause if the girl petite and hot that red hair thing just s frieks me out. I don't normally pay extras but wanted good strong DFTK which she provided and I very happy with. One a down note just could not get my pene much into her she so so tight even after multi-pos. I was hard enough think a lot to do with the very low to the ground massage beds had to mish or doggie since her legs too tired to CG.

Day 3 went to New Life early before the hoard and much better outcome. Mi pene fit much better into the short flaca.

Tomorrow I think I repeat Energy with a taller stockier chica who give me the ccorrect puck geometry between two bodies. Otherwise I may check out Tantra.


Saving a day long trip to Centro once I am a little more altitude adjusted. Plan to get a day hotel for the action and can hang all day not worrying out checking in and out of more god-damn hotels while keeping my nice Poblado rental for my evening relaxation and rest.

Speaking of evening fun hit Llerras tonight for first time in 5 years and as touristy as it is it is still fun to people watch and if like me to enjoy the EDM house music as well as sitting in a bar alongside the street and having many opportunities present themselves although many seem jail-b-date, worn or major problems. This types of chicks as mentioned in other threads require a thorough "background check" LOL. Also saw a pack of 4-5 venies also which I plan to completely exploit in El Centro this week. Specifically I like a pregger venie so I do not have to worry about knocking her up sin condom and/or getting red on my pene!

This trip I may take a day trip to Bucaramanga or Barranquilla so do not have to change around hotels so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EbRikt1bJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geO_ioeZ_iE

Mi fantasia etsare un DJ en Medellin de musica ballando mas popular entre las 90s a dia presente!

Ciao Amigos (y amigas y otros)!

CoCr Out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2395966]This doesn't make any sense, it's always the same price for a ride whether you have a single ticket or Civica for a ride, always. And with a Civica transfers to the bus lines are included. So your information is inaccurate. And as far as the long lines of people buying tickets, it's not because a single ticket is cheaper than a Civica. The reality is that the majority of the riders on the Metro have Civica cards so, 1) they do not have to wait in lines to buy individual tickets, and 2) enjoy the cost savings associated with the inclusion of the bus lines at no cost by using a Civica.

One of the posters identified a link to an article on the Metro which will help everyone have a better understanding of the Metro system, the fares, and the Civica, etc.[/QUOTE]Your post is inaccurate so far as it relates to my experience. I cannot vouch for the accuracy or inaccuracy of your experience.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2395977]I think you are right on both points. The civica card is a great deal if you transfer lines and use buses. Even if you don't, although the per ride cost is a bit more than single tickets, it is worthwhile because you avoid the crazy long ticket lines at rush hour.

Medellin taxis are an amazing value. They aren't very comfortable but 10 k to 20 k gets you between most any two points within the city limits. The Metro is a better bet during rush hour traffic. At peak times you sometimes have to wait for a train or two to pass before you can get on and it is sardine can city but you pass by all the traffic jams. I stick to uber unless I'm in a hurry and I don't have time to wait for uber to show up. In those situations it's much quicker to grab a taxi.[/QUOTE]I have tried the metro during rush hour it does get you from point A to point B quicker than a taxi then but I honestly cannot take the squeeze. I prefer the comfort of a taxi. If you do take the metro at rush hour ensure that you keep a constant check on your wallet.

[QUOTE=GaiusMarius;2396048]I'm on the same boat with the taxis and Uber. On my next trip I'll definitely give the metro a shot just for the experience. And like others have posted on here, avoid rush hour if possible. Whether it's the Metro or Taxis, you're going to be wasting much time commuting. I learned this the hard way a few times. Especially when inviting a chica over around that time.[/QUOTE]The Metro during rush hour literally can be a crushing experience, almost like a stampede. Think in terms of being like a sardine in a can. Depending on the Metro Station your at, there will either be one or two entrances to the platforms. At the stations with one entrance to the platform, like at the Pobaldo station, a lot of the riders are going to try to catch the first train so they don't have to walk far. Always during rush hour, the the first set of cars are going to very crowded. Hence, if you arrive at a station like Poblado and there is a mob to board, it's best just to walk down to the end of the platform to board. Another thing that happens is lot's of times the passengers wanting to board don't allow the passengers wanting to exit to get off. And sometimes the riders will all rush to board. Imagine like a football team with the guards and tackles all moving forward in unison. As always best to avoid during rush hour, and as an example, at the Poblado Metro station, there can sometimes be a wait of 15 minutes just to get access to the platform with long lines across the bridges to access the Station. And they have Metro personnel directing the riders as to which lines to board and buy tickets. It can be a total shit show between 5 and 6:30 PM, and it's even worse when it's raining. So, rule number 1 is avoid the Metro at rush hour if you can, and if you can't then try to position yourself as far away from the platforms when looking to board.

Oh, and one other thing regarding taxi's. When it's raining, they can be very difficult to get as nobody wants to walk in the rain. A perfect example is in El Centro alongside the Museum. Sometimes when leaving El Centro when it's raining it can take up to half an hour to get an empty taxi. Usually there are guys who will get a taxi for you for a few coins or say 200 Pesos. They run around and when they see an empty taxi they will grab it for you. I use them now exclusively, imagine like a concierge service, but a guy wearing rags, hailing a cab for you, and opening the door for you!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2396145]Your post is inaccurate so far as it relates to my experience. I cannot vouch for the accuracy or inaccuracy of your experience.[/QUOTE]Others have verified that what I stated was factually accurate, but not in regards to your personal experience and preferences when it comes to you riding the Metro.

I was only trying to clear up the facts regarding the Civica card, and not anything thing to do with your personal experience, or preferences riding the Metro.

Hopefully this clears things up for you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2396151]I have tried the metro during rush hour it does get you from point A to point B quicker than a taxi then but I honestly cannot take the squeeze. I prefer the comfort of a taxi. If you do take the metro at rush hour ensure that you keep a constant check on your wallet.[/QUOTE]Wallet? Why carry a wallet on the Metro?

I can understand people who can't handle the rush hour squeeze. If you're claustrophobic it would be a nightmare. It's slightly better if you get squeezed in between a few chicas.

The rush hour squeeze is nothing compared to a rush hour interrupted by a 45 minute shutdown. The platforms were all packed down the stairs and back through the turnstiles (the be line running to Laureles) before the trains started arriving again. I was entering the Sur Americana station at the beginning of the stoppage and ended up on the platform for an hour. Then waited through 4 trains before crowding on.

Here's where Colombians are different. Instead of thousands of angry, impatient people, the mood was almost festive. There were people laughing and cracking jokes at each station where a few dozen more would jam their way onboard.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2396151]I have tried the metro during rush hour it does get you from point A to point B quicker than a taxi then but I honestly cannot take the squeeze. I prefer the comfort of a taxi. If you do take the metro at rush hour ensure that you keep a constant check on your wallet.[/QUOTE]I agree, the metro is a definite sardine can, packed, during rush hour.

The comfort of a nice taxi would be preferred, however, the traffic will also suck, so getting a Taxi / Uber with AC may be essential.
It is for me anyways. Otherwise, you’re looking at a long, hot, noisy cab ride.

Normally I just take the plunge, in the Metro and go for the squeezed ride, LOL.

You seasoned guys have covered so much on here and it's much appreciated. I have learned a lot from these boards and I will leave out details that have been talked about many times.

On this trip I decided to book an AirBnB at the suggestion of another monger. Last time I stayed at a hotel and getting a separate room every time I found a Facebook chica was not going to happen. I tried to hit all of the avenues on this trip but did not get to venture the Centro scene. Next time for sure!

Most of my days consisted of a massage in the morning and a Facebook or Tinder chica to my apartment at night. On 1 night I had a massage in the AM, Tinder chick in the middle of the day and Lleras chick at night but this was a bit too much for me. By the 3rd time I was "shooting" droplets. On a side note, any supplements you guys know of to increase semen volume?

I took JB's advice and basically copied and pasted a suggestion he wrote on here every time I reached out to a FB chica. It goes something like this, "Hola. Como estás? Quiero verte. En dos horas. No se. Dos o tres horas. Siempre pago ciento cincuenta mas veinte para el taxi. " The shit always worked plain and simple. Thanks JB LOL.

Knowing Spanish went a long way for sure. The girls would show up quiet and nervous. After a few drinks and laughs they were super friendly and did not want to leave it seemed. All GFE with everything on the menu. Most were not too excited about anal. The girls I came across had bad experiences with it and I left it at that. Prices for all of the Facebook and Tinder chicks was 150 k but I always gave them 200 K.

The massage parlors were all decent but one thing I noticed is that they all used a lot of oil. Way too much! OM Spa massage was decent and relaxing. I had a hard time finding a chick that could do a very good sports massage with lots of pressure. I am not sure if full service is offered at this place but I was mainly interested in a massage anyway. I finished the massage off with the chicks double the tits in my mouth while she jerked me off. On the next day I went to a place in the same building on the 3rd floor. It's like a men's grooming spa or something. Same deal with the oil and massage. This place offered waxing, facials and anything else you may want. At the end of the massage I asked the chick if any extras were offered. Cute little spinner chick. She told me that for an extra 200 k, she would get naked and jerk me off. No thanks.

Jade Palace Spa massage was just a bunch of oil rubbed on my back. On the flip she gave a CBJ and then I bent her over the table doggie. She was a cute 24 year old but did not have much experience. While there I heard a bunch of mongers in the lobby waiting around. The place only had about 4 chicks to choose from so the pickings were slim today. Before I forget, In the shower I got zapped. If you look at the shower head there are exposed wires on there for some reason. I went to adjust it without looking and got zapped. The chick looked at me and knew what happened. It's as if she had witnessed it many times before. So if you go in the shower, be careful and don't touch the shower head. Heck stay out if you can. It was a light zap but you never want to take chances especially while you're in a damn shower. On one of my days I went to Luna Lenera around 5 PM and the place was dead. 3 chicas to choose from. Luckily for me one of them was a solid 8 or 9. Nice abs, big ass and tits. Pretty face also. She let me film her doing squats wearing nothing but high heels. I would have married this chick she was that hot (kidding). I had to say kidding because one of you will think I am serious and will try to lecture. 180 k for the half hour which included a drink. I probably will not go back there. There is much more to write about but honestly you guys have all of it covered on here so why reiterate?

For the guys that have never been to Medellin I would just go through and RTFF. Find what works for you and go with it. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend your time mongering. Take safety advice from the seasoned vets on here seriously. Much thanks to all the quality posts from guys like JB, Surfer, World Travel, PolloNegro and the others.

Effective December 1, 2019.

[QUOTE=Methius;2396290]Effective December 1, 2019.[/QUOTE]New Life prices should be even higher tbh, I know it's in Centro but half or more of their client base are foreigners and I would actually prefer slighter higher prices for girls sessioning with less guys. Seeing these girls cards and noticing like 10 guys for the day was a bit much for me, it turned me off a bit.

Every tinder girl quoted me 300 k for 1 HR, they really go for 150-200 k for Toda la noche? If so I definitely need to do more tinder & PP the next time I go.

[QUOTE=GaiusMarius;2396264]You seasoned guys have covered so much on here and it's much appreciated. I have learned a lot from these boards and I will leave out details that have been talked about many times.

On this trip I decided to book an AirBnB at the suggestion of another monger. Last time I stayed at a hotel and getting a separate room every time I found a Facebook chica was not going to happen. I tried to hit all of the avenues on this trip but did not get to venture the Centro scene. Next time for sure!

Most of my days consisted of a massage in the morning and a Facebook or Tinder chica to my apartment at night. On 1 night I had a massage in the AM, Tinder chick in the middle of the day and Lleras chick at night but this was a bit too much for me. By the 3rd time I was "shooting" droplets. On a side note, any supplements you guys know of to increase semen volume?

I took JB's advice and basically copied and pasted a suggestion he wrote on here every time I reached out to a FB chica. It goes something like this, "Hola. Como ests? Quiero verte. En dos horas. No se. Dos o tres horas. Siempre pago ciento cincuenta mas veinte para el taxi. " The shit always worked plain and simple. Thanks JB LOL.

Knowing Spanish went a long way for sure. The girls would show up quiet and nervous. After a few drinks and laughs they were super friendly and did not want to leave it seemed. All GFE with everything on the menu. Most were not too excited about anal. The girls I came across had bad experiences with it and I left it at that. Prices for all of the Facebook and Tinder chicks was 150 k but I always gave them 200 K..[/QUOTE]The wires on the shower head are the water heater. There's a heating element inside the nozzle hooked to either 110 or 220 v. Always looks a bit scary to me, especially since Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters aren't common in Colombia.

Glad you had a good trip.

Damn I can pick them (I say that sarcastically) I'm at M2 and first FB I want to try is banned from Mansion LOL. Oh well I knew it would be a good idea to stay her first couple nights get my feet wet. On to the next.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2396255]Wallet? Why carry a wallet on the Metro?..........[/QUOTE]I always have 2 wallets. Large one in my hotel room safe with US and other currency, credit and debit cards, passport and other documents; and another with small amount of cash, low limit debit card, credit card sized laminated passport photo page and hotel room key which I move around with.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2396344]Damn I can pick them (I say that sarcastically) I'm at M2 and first FB I want to try is banned from Mansion LOL. Oh well I knew it would be a good idea to stay her first couple nights get my feet wet. On to the next.[/QUOTE]Have you considered one of the local "love motels" in the area? They are quite cheap and perfect for off-site appointments.

[QUOTE=GaiusMarius;2396264]You seasoned guys have covered so much on here and it's much appreciated. I have learned a lot from these boards and I will leave out details that have been talked about many times.


For the guys that have never been to Medellin I would just go through and RTFF. Find what works for you and go with it. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend your time mongering. Take safety advice from the seasoned vets on here seriously. Much thanks to all the quality posts from guys like JB, Surfer, World Travel, PolloNegro and the others.[/QUOTE]Great report!

OM is HJ only AFAIK. Garage Spa is more of a regular grooming spa, again AFAIK.

Exposed wires plus shower equals no thanks. Thanks for the warning. I think that is one of the few "massage" shops that allows full service that isn't just a straight up casa.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2396391]Have you considered one of the local "love motels" in the area? They are quite cheap and perfect for off-site appointments.[/QUOTE]Yeah but if she can't come to mansion she probably was not cool and. Don't want any problems. 1 in a million dawg.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2396386]I always have 2 wallets. Large one in my hotel room safe with US and other currency, credit and debit cards, passport and other documents; and another with small amount of cash, low limit debit card, credit card sized laminated passport photo page and hotel room key which I move around with.[/QUOTE]I roll the same way, however I don't carry any debit cards with me but just enough cash for two "ratos".

Having a copy of your passport or Cedula if you have one is important to have in case you get stopped by the Police. Additionally, its a good idea to carry a photocopy of your entry date stamp into the Country as you may be asked for this by the Police.

I also leave my "I" phone in my apartment, but carry a "burner" phone with my Colombian phone number, however don't turn it on much except to communicate with my El Centro SW's that don't have smart phones.

In all cases, everyone should have a photo copy of their ID with them at all times and leave their "I" phones locked up where their staying.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2395910]Woa woa woa! My guy, these are some wild allegations my brother. Are you saying that most women who are let's say middle to lower class have sold or are willing to sell themselves? I find such a statement problematic but I don't know; what are normal Colombian women stance / thoughts on prositution in general?

BTW, if that's the case, have you seen the slim, quiet & light skin / pale chica who works the front desk at Ayenda botero hotel? She always works morning & afternoon shifts, if she's on the table let me know because I loved seeing her every morning.[/QUOTE]Don't bother with the workers at the hotel unless the bother with you. Trust me, if you are ever lucky enough to be in Medellin when I'm there, 99% of the coffee seller, also sell themselves, I would never post a statement like that without witnessing it first hand. I have much to post about my 2 day trip. I'm just busy at work back in the USA, but plenty of good info is coming on my next few posts. Pollo negro is out!

Before anyone asks, Hotel Botero is no longer girl friendly for Vennies. They will not allow them into the building at all. In 2 years they never questioned me and this trip, they questioned every girl that I brought back, except the ones that they knew were Colombian. So this was my last time staying at Hotel Botero until they can do better about allowing girls to come back. I still found short term hotels, that allowed me to rent the room for the entire day for a total of 40,000 pesos, but they charge 10,000 pesos for every girl you bring back, so it still didn't add up to much and for me, the rooms were much worse than Hotel Botero, except the beds were horrible, horrible and uncomfortable to sleep on all night, but if you're banging the right chic, it really doesn't feel so bad, maybe until the next day. LOL. The 2 short term hotels that I used were, Hotel Zona Rosa, and Hotel Bulevar, they are in the heart of carrera 52 between calle 51 and calle 52, right behind the big church were the trannies be standing and you have to pay attention or you'll walk right past the two hotels as the openings are very small to enter, but you will see girls sitting on the stairs looking for dates. I have so much more to post about from my 2 day stay, so stay tuned. LOL. Pollo Negro is Out!

[QUOTE=BMo814;2396344]Damn I can pick them (I say that sarcastically) I'm at M2 and first FB I want to try is banned from Mansion LOL. Oh well I knew it would be a good idea to stay her first couple nights get my feet wet. On to the next.[/QUOTE]How's the Mansion looking these days? I heard they went through some issues and that the club is now an "external" entity but what about the girls?

Thanks,

[QUOTE=BMo814;2396344]Damn I can pick them (I say that sarcastically) I'm at M2 and first FB I want to try is banned from Mansion LOL. Oh well I knew it would be a good idea to stay her first couple nights get my feet wet. On to the next.[/QUOTE]I would talk to Robert to see why she was banned. If she was just fighting with other girls then OK but if she stoled from a client then I'd give her a pass.

Sometimes they will make an exception and let the girl into your room if you ask.

If they won't let her set foot on the property then ask why before meeting up with her outside.

Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2396563]I would talk to Robert to see why she was banned. If she was just fighting with other girls then OK but if she stoled from a client then I'd give her a pass.

Sometimes they will make an exception and let the girl into your room if you ask.

If they won't let her set foot on the property then ask why before meeting up with her outside.[/QUOTE]I knew a 'Mansion girl' who was once banned for refusing BB sex with one of the owners, the Aussie.

She got reinstated after he left on a long trip to somewhere.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]He just asked how much cash do I have on me, [/QUOTE]I was interrogated much worse the one time I did not enter thru my usual entry port.

Questions like:

How much money do you have now?
How much money do you have when you leave?
Did you not spend any money?

ME: ATM.

Many other questions that they know the answers already. It's like I am not allowed to spend time oversea. If they have an algorithm to profile people, the algorithm is not good.

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2396524]How's the Mansion looking these days? I heard they went through some issues and that the club is now an "external" entity but what about the girls?

Thanks,[/QUOTE]I'd be shocked if this wasn't covered before but I visited a few times in October. This is how it was last month, suspect they will fine tune things over time. Yes the bar has been separated from the hotel. You can not go up to the hotel internally anymore and have to walk outside to an entrance they created on the street. Girls are not allowed at the pool or lobby unless they are invited by a guest. I had heard there are girls hanging out in the bar now during the day, but didn't check that out. Though on several afternoons a bunch of girls just used the name of a guest to gain access and sat by the pool in the afternoon. Shame, I preferred talking to girls sitting the hotel lobby. Much better lighting and I can understand the Spanish much easier without the music.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]That's normal Miami, and it's even worse the day after a Miami Vice rerun on AMC TV, LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]For me that's normal. I live in NY and every single time I return from Colombia I get questioned and have my bags searched. Doesn't matter if I use global entry or not they flag me every time asking the same questions of what I was doing there and where do I work. They would even ask me about trips I took 3 years ago to Costa Rica. I even joke with the guys that I know the protocol and it's cool.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]I experienced the same thing in both Miami and Ft Lauderdale. One flight was with AA and the other with Spirit. By the way I hate how you have to pick up your bags and then recheck them in while flying international.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]I flew out of Cali Colombia about 8 years ago and they x-rayed my stomach, thought I was a drug mule. Drove across the US border into Canada about 4 years ago, by myself, and faced a lot of interrogation.

They re-started this afternoon. Traffic horrible. Took me one hour to return from Energy to Poblado. The taxista's friend reported two hours from Mallorca (Sabaneta) to Estadio.

When I left my Poblado rental at 330 PM the police had one of the main roads blocked off and traffic already poor. Saw 10 Polices standing in the median outside the Poblado Exito.

Just given why'all a heads up so you can plan accordingly.

My taxi also told me there will be an even larger national strike tomorrow so stock up on your drinks if you drink alcohol.

Cheers!

Davis.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2396489]Before anyone asks, Hotel Botero is no longer girl friendly for Vennies. They will not allow them into the building at all. In 2 years they never questioned me and this trip, they questioned every girl that I brought back, except the ones that they knew were Colombian. So this was my last time staying at Hotel Botero until they can do better about allowing girls to come back. I still found short term hotels, that allowed me to rent the room for the entire day for a total of 40,000 pesos, but they charge 10,000 pesos for every girl you bring back, so it still didn't add up to much and for me, the rooms were much worse than Hotel Botero, except the beds were horrible, horrible and uncomfortable to sleep on all night, but if you're banging the right chic, it really doesn't feel so bad, maybe until the next day. LOL. The 2 short term hotels that I used were, Hotel Zona Rosa, and Hotel Bulevar, they are in the heart of carrera 52 between calle 51 and calle 52, right behind the big church were the trannies be standing and you have to pay attention or you'll walk right past the two hotels as the openings are very small to enter, but you will see girls sitting on the stairs looking for dates. I have so much more to post about from my 2 day stay, so stay tuned. LOL. Pollo Negro is Out![/QUOTE]Good info, thanks PolloNegro.

I went through all of your post history and I can say that after mongering in several other countries, I will likely want to do the same as you AKA setting up a home base in Medellin come January and having a rotation of chicks with a main girl to go to fincas and fiestas and stuff. I'm Puerto Rican from the Bronx and will be mainly in el centro, I'm a bargain hunter.

My question for you, I know these street girls are going to be the real performers, they got to put food on the table as opposed to say facebook girls or prepagos, with all the centro SW's you're with do they normally all DFK and BBBJ and let you touch their body / DATY and all that shit, or do some of them say "no you can't do that, you can't suck my tits", just mechanical sex? Obviously there's always a price where they will do anything, I'm just wondering if it's YMMV with each SW girl and you test it out with each one till you build a good list after all it's only 30-40 k loss if its bad, or do you negotiate and be CLEAR before hand?

Like I'm not sure if I would say "y puedo besarte, puedo darte sexo oral, puedo usar mis dedos?" or if that would just be a mood killer, and instead just see where it goes when we get to the room and feel it out.

Thanks brotha.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2395577]So you just holler at them in the gym? I am middle aged but lift weights, so maybe its a decent plan.[/QUOTE]Ask for a good place to eat / get a coffee / etc. , and then maybe ask if they'd like to join. Ask directions to _ Ask stupid gringo questions and see what type of vibe you get haha. My point was, if you're going to pay for a membership, SmartFit is a decent option. If you are a SmartFit member, and aren't in any particular hurry, go to Tesoro for the added free bonus of a spectacular view.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2396324]New Life prices should be even higher tbh, I know it's in Centro but half or more of their client base are foreigners and I would actually prefer slighter higher prices for girls sessioning with less guys. Seeing these girls cards and noticing like 10 guys for the day was a bit much for me, it turned me off a bit.

Every tinder girl quoted me 300 k for 1 HR, they really go for 150-200 k for Toda la noche? If so I definitely need to do more tinder & PP the next time I go.[/QUOTE]Vets might know for sure, but last time I was at New Life, I was thinking the same thing. Then, I noticed the sheet was for the room, not for the girl. I'm not saying your intuition isn't right, just that you might have caught her at a better time than that sheet would indicate.

Sunday I was just relaxing around my apartment, and ended up chatting with a 21 (ish) yo from Bogotá. She was just finishing lunch at Oviedo. I invited her over, and she responded with an, "en serio?" I could see the rain was coming over the mountains, and by the time she arrived in a taxi, it was a downpour. My building has signs for, "No Turismo Sexual" so it's always a little awkward, but the porteros seem to be cool. I haven't pushed it, only brining two girls over (one at 4 a, one at 1 p). Anyhow, long chit chat, and then some junior high kissing / touching. It was really strange. I couldn't figure her out. In the end, she may have been on her period, or just has strict rules for herself. She gave me one of those blowjobs where you almost just want to jerk off and get it over with. It was pretty funny, but a rainy Sunday BJ from some Colombian strange shouldn't be complained about, I guess. She got herself an Uber while I was pretending to work on my computer, then I hit Mercado del Rio, and made it out in time for the Sunday Night Football Game. Tinder range, thus far, has been 250-300. I haven't had any interest to have a chick who doesn't look like her photos show up with that as the expectation.

I rented a car from Localiza, the last couple days, and hit El Peñol, Guatape, San Rafael, El Carmen de V, San Jeronimo, Sopetráand, Puente de Occidente, and Santa fe de Antioquia. The protests this evening cost me about 45 mins of traffic to go less than 2 km. Fortunately, Localiza was open when I arrived at 6:30 p (they close at 6:00 p). I had to get creative and wait for a clearing to drive the wrong way to get there, because the streets were blocked.

My hit list still includes: La Isla, Luna Lunera, Loutron, Energy, Comuna 13, Envigado (which I will probably go to for dinner tomorrow night or Thursday, with what appears to be an 18 yo Tinder smokeshow. No mention of money, yet, we'll see.).

Fun fact: A promoter that had some tickets for the J. Balvin concert at Atanasio Girardot had singles going in the 300-450 k range, and get this. A 10-person box, right up front, for "23 milones".

Miami is the major gateway to Latin America. ICE steps up investigations from time to time, sometimes based on specific information and sometimes as a deterrent show of force. The questions you mentioned are routine and aimed at engaging you in conversation. The inspectors key in on how you answer more than what you answer. Unless you say you earn your living as a counterfeiter and human traffic boss, they don't pay much attention to it. They look for signs of nervousness, intoxication, evasiveness or inconsistencies. For example, if a traveler who is returning from a two week stay in Colombia and has a history of regular visits says they are a supermarket cashier, that traveler is going to be flagged for secondary investigation. Even more basic, if a traveler has several pieces of checked luggage but was only away for a weekend, or if a traveler has only a small carry on bag but was away for a month or more, that traveler will be investigated further. The agriculture questions are the most common. When the inspectors ask for documents in the jet bridge or fan out in the corridors leading to immigration, it is designed to flush out nervous people so spotters can flag them on video surveillance for secondary inspection. They also look out for people who appear to be traveling together but later separate before they get to the inspection lanes. I know some people who have worked for ICE. A few years ago there was a documentary TV series about ICE agents at JFK. I used to watch it on the Internet. Once time I came in on a flight to JFK and saw one of the main subjects of the documentary. I waved at him and he said, "yeah, I'm that guy".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386139]Condensed Report of an overall successful and safe trip. Attached are all the chicas worth posting this trip.

Managed to bang a plethora of different girls from multiple sources mainly from botero, Photoprepago's, and the highlight of my trip has to be the single Facebook girl that imo is the hottest of them all comparing to all the other Facebook groups. IMO, this chick belongs in a place like Fase (II) or Las Islas. Anyone that went to the Halloween Party at the Mansion this past Friday should.

Have noticed a nun, she is it.

One part of town that I never really scoured for hoes is Parque Lleras. I actually mistaken a normal girl sitting alone in that part to be a hoe. LOL oops, sorry. That area seems like a much more expensive botero with no access to quickly motel rooms to immediate satisfaction. Not sure if I will ever go there to look for some. Though the majority of my non-pussy budget was spend on the many great restaurants in the area.

This place is safe for a big city, if you don't chase the drugs, it don't chase you. I've seen maybe a gram of coke in front of me all trip, though, around an Oz (28 g) of premo weed for Canada was smoked largely in public, you can see the uniforms from a mile away. It's actually pretty hard to get robbed here, if you see a beggar, you can throw a propina for his existence (1000 mil coin) they get very very happy and never posted a threat. I believe all the gringo horror stories comes from people acting a fool like walk around drunk late at night, do that here in Brooklyn, the results might be similar.

I fux with this place hard. Wonder people and food, a real slice of heaven on Earth. I won't be able to take time off away til at least April but I know a bit from everything there this trip, next trip going to get way more lit. If I can do few things over:[/QUOTE]Do you have contact link for Samantha, Isabella, or Angie?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2396715]Good info, thanks PolloNegro.

I went through all of your post history and I can say that after mongering in several other countries, I will likely want to do the same as you AKA setting up a home base in Medellin come January and having a rotation of chicks with a main girl to go to fincas and fiestas and stuff. I'm Puerto Rican from the Bronx and will be mainly in el centro, I'm a bargain hunter.

My question for you, I know these street girls are going to be the real performers, they got to put food on the table as opposed to say facebook girls or prepagos, with all the centro SW's you're with do they normally all DFK and BBBJ and let you touch their body / DATY and all that shit, or do some of them say "no you can't do that, you can't suck my tits", just mechanical sex? Obviously there's always a price where they will do anything, I'm just wondering if it's YMMV with each SW girl and you test it out with each one till you build a good list after all it's only 30-40 k loss if its bad, or do you negotiate and be CLEAR before hand?

Like I'm not sure if I would say "y puedo besarte, puedo darte sexo oral, puedo usar mis dedos?" or if that would just be a mood killer, and instead just see where it goes when we get to the room and feel it out.

Thanks brotha.[/QUOTE]Some girls go at $30-$40 mil, and they do the minimum, these girls in this pic won't budge for under $80 mil, and they are super sweet for $100 mil & really put on a 3-4 hour show for $150 mil. I finally banged all 3 in one day on my recent trip, my how time flies when you're having fun! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2396715]My question for you, I know these street girls are going to be the real performers, they got to put food on the table as opposed to say facebook girls or prepagos, with all the centro SW's you're with do they normally all DFK and BBBJ and let you touch their body / DATY and all that shit, or do some of them say "no you can't do that, you can't suck my tits", just mechanical sex? Obviously there's always a price where they will do anything, I'm just wondering if it's YMMV with each SW girl and you test it out with each one till you build a good list after all it's only 30-40 k loss if its bad, or do you negotiate and be CLEAR before hand?

Like I'm not sure if I would say "y puedo besarte, puedo darte sexo oral, puedo usar mis dedos?" or if that would just be a mood killer, and instead just see where it goes when we get to the room and feel it out.

Thanks brotha.[/QUOTE]I know you directed your post to another member, however perhaps what I've experienced and learned dealing with the SW's in El Centro may be of some assistance to you.

You've heard the saying, "you can't judge a book by it's cover". This is how I look at every new SW I take to the room in El Centro. All of the things that you think you may want to do with them (DFK-DATY-BBBJ) in the room, you might not want to do with them, after you "unwrap" them, or how their attitude is in the room. Not all of the SW's are performers, and a lot of them will do a good sales job on the street, but will fall flat once in the room. Your either going to have chemistry with a SW or your not, and you won't know this until your in the room. I have also found that the SW's who are very aggressive and pushing to go to the room immediately like within 30 seconds versus talking a while are typically non-performers.

I suggest you keep it simple, at least that's what I do, however I always make sure a BBBJ is included, and I don't mention anything else when I go with a new SW to the room.

Just let things play out in the room as you mentioned, and with you having Spanish speaking skills things should be easier for you. You may end up doing everything you want to do, and if you keep your expectations "in check" starting out, you may be very surprised at how nice "some" of the SW's can be. I have a stable of performers in EL Centro, however you need to spend a lot of time there, and it's going to be hit or miss, but if you have the time, well worth it, and cheap.

Amigos,

I flew into Medellin from Panama and stayed at 5 star Diez Hotel in Poblado which I do not recommend because they are not chica friendly. In fact, they will charge you an additional $60/ day (USD) if you bring in someone other than your initial visitor despite paying for a room for two people. This is bachelor discrimination and extortion. When I asked to see the hotel owner to discuss the reason behind the stupid policy they called expedia and had me transferred to another, even better hotel close by and upgraded me to a suite for no extra charge. I might add that this eviction was under the threat of police involvement. Yet the new hotel Click Clack Hotel (actual name) charges a whopping $90/ day for any additional guest! So, I later found out all of the better hotels have the same extortion policy. What a fucking racket. On my last day of the eight days there I discovered a two-star hotel called Hotel Merlott Lleras which is chica friendly as long as you only bring in only one chica per day. But no English on the TV and just basic, but clean accommodations. I am curious as to whether any other ISGers have found nice hotels in Poblado that are chica friendly. Please advise. I haven't done be and be so maybe that is an option because I am going back there in May despite the stupid extortion policy. Now for the chicas. I had prearranged some Colombian Cupid dates all of whom were experts in disguising their overweight status in the fotos we had exchanged. Nothing obese but I prefer slim and stacked despite my slight overweightness on this beer-loving 64 year old frame. Of the four cupid dates, number three (of four chicas), 23 years old 36 D cup, was an absolute porn princess who loved sex and had a tight pussy and cute face which she loved me filming my splooge on! Smiled for the camera and seemed to get off on getting me off! Paid her 200 mil (approximately $36 USD) for two days of sheer sexual bliss including massages. I will see her again. Met three American dudes at Rojas bar and the four of us took an Uber to New Life in Centro (downtown). The chica I had was quite mechanical but allowed me to take porn pictures (no face) for 100 mil for the hour. It was OK for $18. Met another chica in Lleras Park who had a nice body and she took me to a short-time hotel in Centro for $18 and treated me nicely. Met Patrick the American owner of Patrick's Irish Pub Sports Bar in Pobalado who offered to show me around to different strip clubs next time I come to Medellin. Great place to watch NFL BTW. It is a beautiful city (at least in Poblado) with perfect climate and stunningly, beautiful Colombianas and some Venezolas walking around everywhere. Hawkers are there but not as bad as other places I have been. I did not feel endangered even when they were protesting. But I did not go out late at night and did not get drunk in public as recommended in the forum. Uber works great there and I used it for the chicas. The metro was fun to ride and great shopping downtown. Thanks for any replies / recommendations. Salud!

[QUOTE=SadButTrue82;2396666]For me that's normal. I live in NY and every single time I return from Colombia I get questioned and have my bags searched. Doesn't matter if I use global entry or not they flag me every time asking the same questions of what I was doing there and where do I work. They would even ask me about trips I took 3 years ago to Costa Rica. I even joke with the guys that I know the protocol and it's cool.[/QUOTE]Wow that's a bummer. Sounds like you've been tagged in the system to automatically go to, or undergo what they call "secondary" every time you enter the Country. I knew a guy who had Sentri, which is exclusively for entry into the USA from Mexico, and harder to get than Global Entry. He got tagged in the system for having a court order posted relative to a divorce issue in the system, and he went thru "secondary' every time he entered the USA. Fortunately for him though, it was valid for a few years, and then got removed because it had an expiration date.

I'm sure you've questioned the CBP about why you keep having to go thru "secondary", having your bags searched, and questioned which can be a pain in the ass. I am curious as to what CBP has told you, if anything.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2396682]I flew out of Cali Colombia about 8 years ago and they x-rayed my stomach, thought I was a drug mule. Drove across the US border into Canada about 4 years ago, by myself, and faced a lot of interrogation.[/QUOTE]Canada can be a pain in the ass to enter, more so than the USA. About two years ago I was with my son and we drove across the border to go to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls. We presented our passports at the border crossing, and than where sent to the inspection area, escorted inside, and asked all kinds of questions while they searched our rental car inside and out.

As it turns out, they thought I was taking my son into the Country and was going to leave him their. I didn't understand this, but after "20 Questions" we were sent on our way.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2396742]Do you have contact link for Samantha, Isabella, or Angie?[/QUOTE]Angie has been covered previously by another ISG member, I dug deep into the forums to find it. You should do the same.

Samantha works off Photoprepagos, not sifting through it all. You can do that yourself as well.

Isabella is a stripper from Fase (II). Not sure if she keeps a FB, I don't have it. Didn't get her number after the deed either, sorry.

As you can clearly see, your pussy options in this city is vast and wide. I would just check it out myself, perhaps you will discover other or better gems.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396896]Canada can be a pain in the ass to enter, more so than the USA. About two years ago I was with my son and we drove across the border to go to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls. We presented our passports at the border crossing, and than where sent to the inspection area, escorted inside, and asked all kinds of questions while they searched our rental car inside and out.

As it turns out, they thought I was taking my son into the Country and was going to leave him their. I didn't understand this, but after "20 Questions" we were sent on our way.[/QUOTE]I spent over 4 years driving a truck in and out of Ontario twice a week. Crossing in to Canada was never an issue. Out of around 450 trips, maybe 10 times I had to park and go inside. 3 or 4 of those times were because the broker had forgotten to register the shipment with Canadian Customs. Mostly the Canadians were polite, professional and friendly.

Coming back to the US was another story. About every 6 trips, I'd be sent through x-ray and secondary inspection, only once due to a paperwork screwup. Frequently the CBP officers were extremely rude. A few even threatened me. The only time I got one to smile, I'd spent 2 hours waiting for x-ray and checked inside to be certain they didn't want anything else. The agent asked if I had been through x-ray (they x-ray the truck, not the driver) and I said "yep. They x-rayed me and said I didn't have any cavities. " he looked at me funny and said "they aren't supposed to x-ray you. " I just smiled and said "Obamacare."

There was one interesting period. I was withdrawing a lot of money from the bank. Every week I'd hit the ATM and pull $500. I was setting it aside for an upcoming trip. After about 3 weeks of making the withdrawals, I started getting pulled in for inspection every trip. For almost a month, each time they would search the trailer and the cab. Once I stopped with the weekly withdrawals, the inspections stopped.

Big brother is definitely watching.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2396715]Good info, thanks PolloNegro.

I went through all of your post history and I can say that after mongering in several other countries, I will likely want to do the same as you AKA setting up a home base in Medellin come January and having a rotation of chicks with a main girl to go to fincas and fiestas and stuff. I'm Puerto Rican from the Bronx and will be mainly in el centro, I'm a bargain hunter.

My question for you, I know these street girls are going to be the real performers, they got to put food on the table as opposed to say facebook girls or prepagos, with all the centro SW's you're with do they normally all DFK and BBBJ and let you touch their body / DATY and all that shit, or do some of them say "no you can't do that, you can't suck my tits", just mechanical sex? Obviously there's always a price where they will do anything, I'm just wondering if it's YMMV with each SW girl and you test it out with each one till you build a good list after all it's only 30-40 k loss if its bad, or do you negotiate and be CLEAR before hand?

Like I'm not sure if I would say "y puedo besarte, puedo darte sexo oral, puedo usar mis dedos?" or if that would just be a mood killer, and instead just see where it goes when we get to the room and feel it out.

Thanks brotha.[/QUOTE]Why would you make those assumptions about SWs and Facebook girls?

For the regulars here, this isn't meant to be derogatory towards the streetie sweeties, it's just the hierarchy of prepagos.

The prostitute food chain has street girls at the bottom. They charge the least and work in the worst conditions. At the top are top tier models who are earning $1,000's daily and spending their time in 5 star resorts and hotels, all over the world. Somewhere in the middle are the Facebook girls. Some are more or less expensive, but 150 k is a typical price.

A SW has to do 4 or 5 sessions to equal 1 Facebook girl session. That's 10 dicks a day versus 2, if they both want to make $100.

For the SW, she's usually only spending 20-30 minutes to get her 30-40 k. Her money is not made in the room, it's made on the street. She gets paid to get a guy in the room. Her income depends on getting the most guys possible in the room.

This is why Surfer500 will tell you that the most aggressive girls are the worst performers. They understand. It's not about repeat customers. It's about getting guys through the door.

This doesn't mean you can't find SWs who will do everything you want, even with some enthusiasm. It just means there's no reason to assume you're going to find that regularly.

Facebook girls, on the other hand, are working off of repeat customers and referrals. Most of them understand, the number of customers they get depends on how well they treat the customers. If they give mechanical service, if they have a bunch of rules, they don't get called.

Surfer500, PolloNegro, Wolf662 and others have figured the system out. They've spent the time and found the girls who meet their needs for the price they're willing to pay. I'm certain each of them is just as happy with their typical sessions as others are with Facebook sessions.

The only difference is, with SWs you have to search through to find the gems. With Facebook, you search through to eliminate the duds.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2396489]Before anyone asks, Hotel Botero is no longer girl friendly for Vennies. They will not allow them into the building at all. In 2 years they never questioned me and this trip, they questioned every girl that I brought back, except the ones that they knew were Colombian. So this was my last time staying at Hotel Botero until they can do better about allowing girls to come back. I still found short term hotels, that allowed me to rent the room for the entire day for a total of 40,000 pesos, but they charge 10,000 pesos for every girl you bring back, so it still didn't add up to much and for me, the rooms were much worse than Hotel Botero, except the beds were horrible, horrible and uncomfortable to sleep on all night, but if you're banging the right chic, it really doesn't feel so bad, maybe until the next day. LOL. The 2 short term hotels that I used were, Hotel Zona Rosa, and Hotel Bulevar, they are in the heart of carrera 52 between calle 51 and calle 52, right behind the big church were the trannies be standing and you have to pay attention or you'll walk right past the two hotels as the openings are very small to enter, but you will see girls sitting on the stairs looking for dates. I have so much more to post about from my 2 day stay, so stay tuned. LOL. Pollo Negro is Out![/QUOTE]Yes PN sad news about Hotel Botero not allowing the vennies anymore but as you point out there are other places to pound away in and 10 mil for each girl for hotel use won't break the bank.

I bet you have much to report on. Keep them happy for me until my return.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396605]Took the American Airlines Flight from MDE to Miami this morning, and upon arriving, and after disembarking from the plane there were eight CBP officers stopping passengers asking for their Passports and questioning random passengers. They stopped me and the first question they asked me was, "what do you do for a living" and the second question was "what was I doing in Colombia" (if they only knew). After I answered their two questions they let me go, but they appeared to be looking for something specific, I suspect something to do with illegal activities and money laundering, because after I got to the Global Entry kiosks, I again got asked questions by the CBP officer when he took my photo slip, which included do I have any food, how many checked bags do I have. So when I started rattling off the coffee I had, chips, etc. He just asked how much cash do I have on me, and after telling him he said go. I typically fly into LAX and have never experienced anything like this, and with Global Entry there, they just wave you threw, no questions asked at all. Anyone else experienced this flying into Miami, or is this just normal there?[/QUOTE]Coming back I have always breezed thru US customs in Miami on AA and Ft Lauderdale on Spirit. I have gotten bothered coming and going in MED, once leaving pulled out for the full body X-ray (nothing more fun in a 3rd world country then 2 police pulling you out of line, "come with me" to some back room) and just barely made my flight, and once arriving they pulled me out after picking up my bags for extra bag inspection via x-ray machine. Who smuggles stuff into Colombia? LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396855]I know you directed your post to another member, however perhaps what I've experienced and learned dealing with the SW's in El Centro may be of some assistance to you.

You've heard the saying, "you can't judge a book by it's cover". This is how I look at every new SW I take to the room in El Centro. All of the things that you think you may want to do with them (DFK-DATY-BBBJ) in the room, you might not want to do with them, after you "unwrap" them, or how their attitude is in the room. Not all of the SW's are performers, and a lot of them will do a good sales job on the street, but will fall flat once in the room. Your either going to have chemistry with a SW or your not, and you won't know this until your in the room. I have also found that the SW's who are very aggressive and pushing to go to the room immediately like within 30 seconds versus talking a while are typically non-performers.

I suggest you keep it simple, at least that's what I do, however I always make sure a BBBJ is included, and I don't mention anything else when I go with a new SW to the room.[/QUOTE]Good stuff surfer, sounds good. Yea I'm on like page 200 and tallman was talking about how he was buying candy from this cute 22 y / o venie and ofc she did ratos for 25 k, she wasnt even a sw LOL and it ended up being a great sesh and he gave her 50 k after he heard what she has to go through to live everyday, and 50 k is like a meal to us in the states.

That's one thing I've picked up on from you vets of MDE, sure you can haggle down 5 k but really it's like $3 difference, generosity goes a long way as wolf says, giving leftover food to the beggars and tipping the porteros of love motels, even if for us it's change you would find under the couch. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396896]Canada can be a pain in the ass to enter, more so than the USA. About two years ago I was with my son and we drove across the border to go to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls. We presented our passports at the border crossing, and than where sent to the inspection area, escorted inside, and asked all kinds of questions while they searched our rental car inside and out.

As it turns out, they thought I was taking my son into the Country and was going to leave him their. I didn't understand this, but after "20 Questions" we were sent on our way.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah, if you have a DUI, you can't go to Canada for at least 5 years and maybe longer. See the link: [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2019/01/02/attention-u-s-travellers-new-canadian-cannabis-and-dui-laws-now-in-effect/[/URL]#4 f90 ddf66233.

J Balvin doesn't do anything for me. I quite like Karol G.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2396717]Ask for a good place to eat / get a coffee / etc. , and then maybe ask if they'd like to join. Ask directions to _ Ask stupid gringo questions and see what type of vibe you get haha. My point was, if you're going to pay for a membership, SmartFit is a decent option. If you are a SmartFit member, and aren't in any particular hurry, go to Tesoro for the added free bonus of a spectacular view.

Vets might know for sure, but last time I was at New Life, I was thinking the same thing. Then, I noticed the sheet was for the room, not for the girl. I'm not saying your intuition isn't right, just that you might have caught her at a better time than that sheet would indicate.

Sunday I was just relaxing around my apartment, and ended up chatting with a 21 (ish) yo from Bogot. She was just finishing lunch at Oviedo. I invited her over, and she responded with an, "en serio?" I could see the rain was coming over the mountains, and by the time she arrived in a taxi, it was a downpour. My building has signs for, "No Turismo Sexual" so it's always a little awkward, but the porteros seem to be cool. I haven't pushed it, only brining two girls over (one at 4 a, one at 1 p)..[/QUOTE]

There is a solution. Write your congressional representative and a staffer will vet your file. If there is insufficient cause, you will receive a return letter that states you will no longer be subject to extra scrutiny. Of course, if there is cause that is another kettle of fish. It's worth a try for the cost of a postage stamp. I found out about this from a girl I was dating like 15 years ago. She was getting the extra attention every time we went through customs. After I pitched a fit an agent handed me a card and told me to have her write a letter and sure enough a couple of months later it was all fixed.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396891]Wow that's a bummer. Sounds like you've been tagged in the system to automatically go to, or undergo what they call "secondary" every time you enter the Country. I knew a guy who had Sentri, which is exclusively for entry into the USA from Mexico, and harder to get than Global Entry. He got tagged in the system for having a court order posted relative to a divorce issue in the system, and he went thru "secondary' every time he entered the USA. Fortunately for him though, it was valid for a few years, and then got removed because it had an expiration date.

I'm sure you've questioned the CBP about why you keep having to go thru "secondary", having your bags searched, and questioned which can be a pain in the ass. I am curious as to what CBP has told you, if anything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SadButTrue82;2396666]For me that's normal. I live in NY and every single time I return from Colombia I get questioned and have my bags searched. Doesn't matter if I use global entry or not they flag me every time asking the same questions of what I was doing there and where do I work.[/QUOTE]Recently, I flew to Bogota arriving at midnight. Woke up next morning to a family emergency and had to race back to El Dorado to catch a 9:48 non-stop, buying a one-way at the check-in counter last minute. Barely made the flight. It was terrible and I was sure immigration would ask why does someone go to Colombia for 9 hours? But, they didn't say a thing.

[QUOTE=DCups;2396879]Amigos,

I haven't done be and be so maybe that is an option ![/QUOTE]Renting an apartment through a web site is a good option, its what I did. No extra charge for chicas, I had as many as four in one day. But even the majority of them are not chica friendly but there are still plenty that are. My guess is that there are more apartments that are chica friendly in areas outside of El Poblado than in El Poblado, like Laureles for example. Do not confine yourself to only searching on be and be either, there are other sites that have apartments listed for Medellin. The most important thing is to message the owner through the messaging system on the site you are searching and ask about the buildings policy concerning having visitors in the apartment. The owner usually does not make the policy, the building does. Another thing you might try is RTFF, this is an often talked about subject. There is also a whole thread on Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, it's called Modelling Hotels and Rental Apartments. Seriously it is.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396891]Wow that's a bummer. Sounds like you've been tagged in the system to automatically go to, or undergo what they call "secondary" every time you enter the Country. I knew a guy who had Sentri, which is exclusively for entry into the USA from Mexico, and harder to get than Global Entry. He got tagged in the system for having a court order posted relative to a divorce issue in the system, and he went thru "secondary' every time he entered the USA. Fortunately for him though, it was valid for a few years, and then got removed because it had an expiration date.

I'm sure you've questioned the CBP about why you keep having to go thru "secondary", having your bags searched, and questioned which can be a pain in the ass. I am curious as to what CBP has told you, if anything.[/QUOTE]The first few times I never paid it any mind but my mom works for Delta and she was the one who mentioned that I should ask but obviously not be pushy. So on my last 3 trips to mde I would always talk to the officer and ask him what the deal was and explain to him that every time I go through I seem to get tagged for this. Most gave me the standard "oh its random we're just checking" but one of them was honest enough when he told me straight up you visit Colombia often and it's probably based on your frequent trips, he said I'll probably keep getting checked for a while longer. Told him I had a girlfriend out there and he would joke with me about how its better she stay there and not come to the US. So I basically accepted that for a while longer this stuff happens. When I came back in Nov I got pulled to the side again and I kinda laughed it off and after waiting for a few minutes the officer was like "you know what, go on through and enjoy your day" I said thanks and kept it moving. I'm at the point I leave most of my stuff in Colombia so I'll be carrying less stuff so even if I get flagged it won't be as long as other trips where I had like 3 suitcases.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2396891]I'm sure you've questioned the CBP about why you keep having to go thru "secondary", having your bags searched, and questioned which can be a pain in the ass. I am curious as to what CBP has told you, if anything.[/QUOTE]Probably wrong thread for this, but I was kicked out of the Global Entry Program after being in it for 7 years. The way I found out is that I tried to enter the country and the machine told me to see a person. (I never received any revocation notification letter as this email states.) From then, I (my bags and electronics) started to be checked coming into and going out (after I scanned my boarding pass to enter the plane they would be waiting on the other side of the door for me with a photocopy of my passport) of the country.

Nothing had changed with me since I entered the program when it first started and renewed it after the first five years was up. Nobody at the offices of several airports (Miami included) could tell me why and told me to write to the ombudsman, who wrote me back with this vague letter. My buddy said I should write to my senator or representative to try to find out what is going on. (And I just read Knowledge's post suggesting the same thing.) This email is dated Oct 17,2017. I have been too lazy to write to my senator but will soon.

Thank you for your correspondence requesting reconsideration for your Trusted Traveler membership. USA Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has completed a review of this matter. Please allow me to outline our findings.

Participation in CBP Trusted Traveler Programs is voluntary and is available to persons who pass a comprehensive background check. Applicants will not qualify for participation if they:

Provide false or incomplete information on the application;.

Have been convicted of any criminal offense or have pending criminal charges to include outstanding warrants;.

Have been found in violation of any Customs, Immigration, or Agriculture regulations or laws in any country;.

Are subjects of an investigation by any Federal, State, or local law enforcement agency;.

Are inadmissible to the United States under Immigration regulation, including applicants with approved waivers of inadmissibility or parole documentation; or.

Cannot satisfy CBP that all eligibility requirements are met.

CBP has determined that you do not meet the eligibility requirements for a Trusted Traveler Program for the reasons originally provided to you on your revocation notification letter. If your revocation was based on a criminal conviction, customs, agriculture or immigration violation, the revocation remains unchanged because you did not provide sufficient evidence that CBP used incorrect or erroneous information to make the original revocation determination.

If you were revoked because you cannot satisfy CBP that all eligibility requirements are met, the decision stands. CBP may use information from other agencies when making eligibility decisions and is prohibited from releasing other agency information.

Applicants who do not qualify for participation are not prohibited from entering the United States. However, they are not permitted to use a Trusted Traveler dedicated lane to do so.

Thank you for your interest in the CBP Trusted Traveler Programs.

Sincerely,

CBP Ombudsman.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2397113]
Are subjects of an investigation by any Federal, State, or local law enforcement agency;.
.[/QUOTE]Since you didn't do anything maybe you're under investigation and don't know it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2397113]. My buddy said I should write to my senator or representative to try to find out what is going on. (And I just read Knowledge's post suggesting the same thing.) This email is dated Oct 17,2017. I have been too lazy to write to my senator but will soon.


If you were revoked because you cannot satisfy CBP that all eligibility requirements are met, the decision stands. CBP may use information from other agencies when making eligibility decisions and is prohibited from releasing other agency information.

Applicants who do not qualify for participation are not prohibited from entering the United States. However, they are not permitted to use a Trusted Traveler dedicated lane to do so.

Thank you for your interest in the CBP Trusted Traveler Programs.

Sincerely,

CBP Ombudsman.[/QUOTE]I think I would try to track down "said" revocation letter. Simply because except for the part where this letter you posted says "If you were revoked because. " this letter is practically accusing you of doing something wrong. But the fact that the word "if" is even in that thing, it shows they do not even know to a certainty and this is probably a form letter the ombudsman office sends out.

Obviously a Senator has more pull than a Representative overall but the representatives power also depends on which committees and how much seniority the may have. But my point here is that I think if I found myself in the area I would actually stop by their office with a written letter concerning your situation. These people get tons of emails and while I am sure they have a staff that reads them because answering constituents is a big part of being a good politician, I would want to put it in someone's hand. Obviously the representatives office going to be closer to where you live and the representatives staff probably has less constituents concerns to deal with. If your representative sits on any committee dealing with homeland security or immigration or any related thing they may have quicker connections than one does not sit on one of these committees. I would go there first. I suspect that all these politicians have system for dealing with constituent issues though. The whole thing may just be a clerical error.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2397049]Recently, I flew to Bogota arriving at midnight. Woke up next morning to a family emergency and had to race back to El Dorado to catch a 9:48 non-stop, buying a one-way at the check-in counter last minute. Barely made the flight. It was terrible and I was sure immigration would ask why does someone go to Colombia for 9 hours? But, they didn't say a thing.[/QUOTE]Not surprising at all, imagine being an immigration agent seeing hundreds of Passports a day. Basically, they put your Passport on the "reader", and if no red flags pop-up, they stamp your Passport. I would be bored out of my mind after about 15 minutes in that job.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2396742]Do you have contact link for Samantha, Isabella, or Angie?[/QUOTE]1) Advanced search on upper right hand corner.

2) Under keyword type in what you're looking for. In this case "Angie".

3) Where it says, Search in Forum (s): Highlight Colombia.

4) Then hit Search Now. You will find what you're looking for on the first page.

For the rest of the mongers looking for info it's really that simple. You can find a lot of info by using the search function.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2397074]Renting an apartment through a web site is a good option, its what I did. No extra charge for chicas, I had as many as four in one day. But even the majority of them are not chica friendly but there are still plenty that are. My guess is that there are more apartments that are chica friendly in areas outside of El Poblado than in El Poblado, like Laureles for example. Do not confine yourself to only searching on be and be either, there are other sites that have apartments listed for Medellin. The most important thing is to message the owner through the messaging system on the site you are searching and ask about the buildings policy concerning having visitors in the apartment. The owner usually does not make the policy, the building does. Another thing you might try is RTFF, this is an often talked about subject. There is also a whole thread on Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, it's called Modelling Hotels and Rental Apartments. Seriously it is.[/QUOTE]Have any of you guys thought of just renting an ordinary secure apartment like that rented by Colombians, they are very cheap and you have no problem with visiting chicas. If on aggregate you visit lets say 6 months every year, you close up the apartment when you are back home leaving basic items locked up and use the apartment when you visit. I don't do it because I'm not that regular a visitor to Medellin.

Back to MDE for my monthly visit. Interesting post from someone about always being stopped for secondary screening. I have not had that problem. Hope I will not. Upon arrival, if an immigration official in Colombia looks at my passport funny (because of all of the stamps), I volunteer that I have a girlfriend here. I have never had a problem re-entering the USA (usually through Ft. Lauderdale or Orlando).

Anyway, I've been visiting MDE for more than 14 years. While I still like to see some of my old favorites and do continue to search for a few new girls, I have ventured off into the world of non-pros. I do not recommend this for the casual visitor, as it does take time. But it has been very interesting for me. I've had some very good sex with some girls who just enjoy being treated nicely and seem to really want sex.

An example. Last night I saw a girl I met on Facebook. I have been talking to her for about a month now. Normal story. Has a baby (4 months old). Father of baby is bad and does not support. Chica used to work and had a good job. Seems like a solid girl. Saw her last night. I usually like to bang skinny girls. Because of the baby, she still has some of that pregnancy fat. And she has huge tits! So she came over and we had some wine. She wanted to go to the jacuzzi. At that time, I had no real idea whether I was getting any or not (which is part of the fun). Turns out she was super horny. I did not ask, but probably hadn't gotten any in several months. We fucked like rabbits. I ate her pussy to orgasm after orgasm. She sucked me like a champ. Her moans encouraged me. The girl just appreciated the sex. And it was great. It doesn't always work out like this, but it sure if fun when it does.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2397113]Probably wrong thread for this, but I was kicked out of the Global Entry Program after being in it for 7 years. The way I found out is that I tried to enter the country and the machine told me to see a person. (I never received any revocation notification letter as this email states.) From then, I (my bags and electronics) started to be checked coming into and going out (after I scanned my boarding pass to enter the plane they would be waiting on the other side of the door for me with a photocopy of my passport) of the country. [/QUOTE]Mr. E,

I believe this is the correct thread for this, even though it's the Medellin thread, as a lot of the members on this board travel worldwide like ourselves, and it' s a refreshing "breather" from the topics we seem to re-hash over and over on this thread.

Sorry to hear about your woes with the Global Entry Program, and it's unfortunate that we cannot ever to seem to get a straight answer from our Government regarding why at times members are getting detained and have to go thru "secondary" and others never have problems. One poster stated that a CBP agent said it was due to the frequency of his visits to Colombia as to why he was being scrutinized. I have flown in and out of the Colombia at least twenty times in the last 3 years, and have never had to go thru secondary with lots and lots of questions and my bags searched. Perhaps it's because I have Global Entry, and the other poster did not. Nobody seems to know how travelers are monitored, on what basis, and how to fix a situation like yours. And the information most people get when they ask why there having to go thru "secondary" is typically,"it's random".

So here's a what I experienced in Iceland of all places in July this year. I was flying on British Airways from Reykjavik thru London to LAX and had a business class ticket. Upon arriving at the Airport and checking my bags, I was given my boarding passes. I went thru security, no problem at all. Than they started boarding the plane, and when they swiped my boarding pass, something came up and they told me I had to go over to a separate area immediately adjacent to the boarding line and wait to be called, as they took my Passport and boarding pass and gave it to a"uniformed person" . In the area I mentioned, they had Icelandic Officers going thru other business class passengers carry on luggage. After about ten minutes they called me over, didn't ask any questions, but searched my back-pack and said OK you can board now. So I asked the officer as to why my bag was being searched. And I was told, "because the US TSA requested us to search your carry on luggage". I was totally perplexed by what I was told, and after boarding, I spoke with another passenger who's bag was searched as well. He was a German citizen with a German Passport, and he to asked why his bag was searched, and he was given the same exact answer I got. So if you think about this, a German citizen, with a German Passport, is being monitored by the TSA who is not an American citizen. I guess it's good and bad, the good part being to keep the sky's safe, and the bad part being how close our Government is able to monitor us and others, not only when we travel, but financially as well.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2397251]Back to MDE for my monthly visit. Interesting post from someone about always being stopped for secondary screening. I have not had that problem. Hope I will not. Upon arrival, if an immigration official in Colombia looks at my passport funny (because of all of the stamps), I volunteer that I have a girlfriend here. I have never had a problem re-entering the USA (usually through Ft. Lauderdale or Orlando).

Anyway, I've been visiting MDE for more than 14 years. While I still like to see some of my old favorites and do continue to search for a few new girls, I have ventured off into the world of non-pros. I do not recommend this for the casual visitor, as it does take time. But it has been very interesting for me. I've had some very good sex with some girls who just enjoy being treated nicely and seem to really want sex.

An example. Last night I saw a girl I met on Facebook. I have been talking to her for about a month now. Normal story. Has a baby (4 months old). Father of baby is bad and does not support. Chica used to work and had a good job. Seems like a solid girl. Saw her last night. I usually like to bang skinny girls. Because of the baby, she still has some of that pregnancy fat. And she has huge tits! So she came over and we had some wine. She wanted to go to the jacuzzi..[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great experience, but begs the question, did you suck her titties and get any of her baby's milk?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2397251]Because of the baby, she still has some of that pregnancy fat. And she has huge tits! So she came over and we had some wine. She wanted to go to the jacuzzi. At that time, I had no real idea whether I was getting any or not (which is part of the fun). Turns out she was super horny. [/QUOTE]One of my girls in Barranquilla liked to squirt her milk on my dick and suck it off while I film it. I don't know about super horny, but she is definitely a freak. I called my brother and cousin on cam and she she started sucking the vibrator I gave her. Just a regular chick. I haven't been there in a few months so she says the milk has dried up now.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2397241]Have any of you guys thought of just renting an ordinary secure apartment like that rented by Colombians, they are very cheap and you have no problem with visiting chicas. If on aggregate you visit lets say 6 months every year, you close up the apartment when you are back home leaving basic items locked up and use the apartment when you visit. I don't do it because I'm not that regular a visitor to Medellin.[/QUOTE]It's not as easy to do as some might think, especially for those renting an unfurnished apartment which does not include utilities, etc.

In other words, if your not going thru a company that rents furnished apartments including utilities like CASACOL or LIFEAFAR, it's going to be difficult for a foreigner to rent an unfurnished apartment like a Colombian. Unless the owner of the apartment is a foreigner, or perhaps something on AIRBNB, your going to have to have a Colombian Cedula to rent from a Colombian. And you will not be able to get utility service thru EPM without a Cedula, nor will you be able to get cable service thru CLARO or TIGO unless you get someone with a Colombian Cedula to sign up the account on your behalf and be responsible if the bills aren't paid under their "name".

Basically, without a Colombian Cedula, it can be very difficult for a foreigner to rent an apartment like a Colombian.

A good thought on your part, makes perfect sense as you suggested, but in reality tough to do.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397255]Upon arriving at the Airport and checking my bags, I was given my boarding passes. I went thru security, no problem at all. Than they started boarding the plane, and when they swiped my boarding pass, something came up and they told me I had to go over to a separate area immediately adjacent to the boarding line and wait to be called, as they took my Passport and boarding pass and gave it to a"uniformed person" . [/QUOTE]Usually in cases like this, you can't get e-ticket, and your paper ticket will be stamped something like SSSS. You will know at the point of the check-in at the counter.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397255]
I guess it's good and bad, the good part being to keep the sky's safe, and the bad part being how close our Government is able to monitor us and others, not only when we travel, but financially as well.
[/QUOTE]I can't stop thinking how inefficient the system is. One would think the government knows everything but from the posts here, it seems they know very little or the knowledge is being used in an outdated way. It is far easier to train someone to lie then to train a border agent to be a lie detector. You can read about the consequence of the enormous power being given to the wrong people at the airport and on the plane

Hey guys,

I will be in Medellin in late December, looking to book an AirBnb right now. Does anyone know if El Centro girls would go over to an apartment in Poblado? Or is that too far?

I've read hundreds of pages here, I will focus mostly on El Centro and try to take girls over to my place and enjoy a good view + if possible a Jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance.

Interesting info & personal experiences. I'll share mine.

I applied for Global Entry twice.

Denied both times, with no reason or information.

I had a DUI about 11 years ago. I thought I had read there was a wait time of 10 years before being allowed to obtain Global Entry after such a conviction. I got my interview done at LAX, upon arrival from an international flight. The CBP officer asked me if I had been to North Korea (apparently a mistake I made in the application). I told him no, I have been to South Korea. It seemed to be corrected, right then, but who knows. I have also been to Cuba, but likely did not report that.

I'm wondering what some of your opinions might be as to why I have been rejected. It's merely a convenience, so I can't see myself writing a Senator, but I'm still curious.

Somewhat unrelated: Avianca is the fucking worst. Just the worst. They have almost a 100% success rate of misplacing, damaging, or misplacing my luggage, and their customer service is terrible.

I've had the dreaded SSSS on my boarding pass leaving Cartagena to Miami. They search your carry-on and bring out your luggage to open. This happened all in Cartagena before boarding.

When I got to the US I didn't get sent to secondary just got asked a bunch of questions, and the border officer noticed I had a visa to a Middle-Eastern country and started typing up notes and asking me questions about my trip there. Then she said "so you used an airbnb"? I told her no. I rent an apartment from a real estate company there. "Oh so it's like an airbnb!" I shrugged. I mean it's not airbnb but ok. I wasn't kept for long but the entire line of questioning was very condescending like I was too stupid to comprehend what she was asking.

That was it. Of course in Colombia everyone involved in the search was professional and nice. In the US not so much.

As I understand it booking a flight too close to the departure date, being a lone traveler, and so on gets you points for extra scrutiny. If you had booked three months ago as a family they wave you through. Generally I don't get stopped much but when I do I just answer honestly and they tend to get bored and let me through.

I don't think any of this has to do with any information you have. It's all automated and then the border officer decides based on what's on his screen and how you present yourself. If you show up sweaty, nervous, and can't answer properly you probably get a colonoscopy.

First, to answer a question from below. I did suck those tits a little bit and enjoyed a little milk. But I'm not into that too much. She loved to play with tits.

The latest transportation app in Medellin seems to be Driver. And several girls I know use it. But I want to warn you a little. I went with one of my chicas tonight to dinner at La Pampa in Laureles (Jardin). We took a Driver from my apartment in Laureles (near Jumbo) and the cost was 12,000 COP. I thought I got ripped off by the guy, but the return trip, with another Driver guy, was the same. I mention this because the distance was not very far. For context, I can take a cab from here to Lleras for 13,000 COP (and it's a much longer drive). Obviously we are not talking about a lot of money, but for those who think they will save money using Driver, it may not always be the case.

Finally, another story. Almost five years ago I had a prepago "girlfriend" here. She was pretty hot and claimed she wanted out of the profession. We dated for about 6 months, but I still banged other girls and she still worked on occasion to pay her bills. She invited me to her son's baptism and party. I went and met her family, including her cousin. At the time, her cousins was only 15, but it was obvious she was fascinated with me for some reason. We kept in touch over the years and when she finally hit 18 and was in the university, we hooked up. I bang her every couple of months. She has a nice little body. And I truly believe she has limited sexual experience based on her lack of skills. But there is something about banging a chica with a tight body who obviously has not been a ****. It took a lot of patience to wait for it. She'll be 20 soon, so it will be almost 3 years since I've been with her. I think she has a crush on me (not sure why, I am nothing special), but she understands nothing serious is going to happen. Just another adventure in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Mahler1508;2397342]Hey guys,

I will be in Medellin in late December, looking to book an AirBnb right now. Does anyone know if El Centro girls would go over to an apartment in Poblado? Or is that too far?

I've read hundreds of pages here, I will focus mostly on El Centro and try to take girls over to my place and enjoy a good view + if possible a Jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The question is why? It kind of defeat the purpose because you are likely to pay more to take them back to your place. If she does not have ID, they are not allowed in many apartments

Check the Global Entry web site. It and all other trusted traveler program materials state very plainly that omissions or inaccurate information on an application are grounds for disqualification. You mention you may have stated that you visited North Korea on your application and you mention that you visited Cuba but you may not have included that information. This is why you are ineligible.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2397345]Interesting info & personal experiences. I'll share mine.

I applied for Global Entry twice.

Denied both times, with no reason or information.

I had a DUI about 11 years ago. I thought I had read there was a wait time of 10 years before being allowed to obtain Global Entry after such a conviction. I got my interview done at LAX, upon arrival from an international flight. The CBP officer asked me if I had been to North Korea (apparently a mistake I made in the application). I told him no, I have been to South Korea. It seemed to be corrected, right then, but who knows. I have also been to Cuba, but likely did not report that.

I'm wondering what some of your opinions might be as to why I have been rejected. It's merely a convenience, so I can't see myself writing a Senator, but I'm still curious.

Somewhat unrelated: Avianca is the fucking worst. Just the worst. They have almost a 100% success rate of misplacing, damaging, or misplacing my luggage, and their customer service is terrible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mahler1508;2397342]Hey guys,

I will be in Medellin in late December, looking to book an AirBnb right now. Does anyone know if El Centro girls would go over to an apartment in Poblado? Or is that too far?

I've read hundreds of pages here, I will focus mostly on El Centro and try to take girls over to my place and enjoy a good view + if possible a Jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It depends on what you're planning on paying them. If you're thinking to give them 30-40 k, no. They aren't going to spend 1.5 hours in taxis to go to Poblado for a 20 minute session.

If you're planning on offering 200 k, then some will probably be willing, but many will still turn you down.

If you're just wanting El Centro girls to come to your apartment, rent a place in El Centro. If you want to stay in Laureles and Poblado and still only want to see El Centro girls, go to El Centro and do them there. If you want to be in Poblado or Laureles and want girls in your apartment, use online sources: Facebook, Tinder, Mileroticos, Photoprepagos, etc.

There's no need to reinvent the wheel.

I think you meant to say inDriver, which is in fact the latest ride sharing app used by many in Colombia. It's a little different than Uber since you get to set a price for your trip and the available drivers can accept or counter your price and you can either accept their offer or counter it as well. Payments are done in cash. It's usually more reliable and little cheaper than Uber, but not always. Regular drivers and taxis use the app as well to get more business. Normally, I'll go on uber and see how much it would cost then I'll set a lower price on inDriver and 9 out 10, someone would take it. I wouldn't recommend it for first time or short term visitors, but for long term people the savings can add up.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2397381]First, to answer a question from below. I did suck those tits a little bit and enjoyed a little milk. But I'm not into that too much. She loved to play with tits.

The latest transportation app in Medellin seems to be Driver. And several girls I know use it. But I want to warn you a little. I went with one of my chicas tonight to dinner at La Pampa in Laureles (Jardin). We took a Driver from my apartment in Laureles (near Jumbo) and the cost was 12,000 COP. I thought I got ripped off by the guy, but the return trip, with another Driver guy, was the same. I mention this because the distance was not very far. For context, I can take a cab from here to Lleras for 13,000 COP (and it's a much longer drive). Obviously we are not talking about a lot of money, but for those who think they will save money using Driver, it may not always be the case.

Finally, another story. Almost five years ago I had a prepago "girlfriend" here. She was pretty hot and claimed she wanted out of the profession. We dated for about 6 months, but I still banged other girls and she still worked on occasion to pay her bills. She invited me to her son's baptism and party. I went and met her family, including her cousin. At the time, her cousins was only 15, but it was obvious she was fascinated with me for some reason. We kept in touch over the years and when she finally hit 18 and was in the university, we hooked up. I bang her every couple of months. She has a nice little body. And I truly believe she has limited sexual experience based on her lack of skills. But there is something about banging a chica with a tight body who obviously has not been a ****. It took a lot of patience to wait for it. She'll be 20 soon, so it will be almost 3 years since I've been with her. I think she has a crush on me (not sure why, I am nothing special), but she understands nothing serious is going to happen. Just another adventure in Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2397345]Interesting info & personal experiences. I'll share mine.

I applied for Global Entry twice.

Denied both times, with no reason or information.

I had a DUI about 11 years ago. I thought I had read there was a wait time of 10 years before being allowed to obtain Global Entry after such a conviction. I got my interview done at LAX, upon arrival from an international flight. The CBP officer asked me if I had been to North Korea (apparently a mistake I made in the application). I told him no, I have been to South Korea. It seemed to be corrected, right then, but who knows. I have also been to Cuba, but likely did not report that.

I'm wondering what some of your opinions might be as to why I have been rejected. It's merely a convenience, so I can't see myself writing a Senator, but I'm still curious.

Somewhat unrelated: Avianca is the fucking worst. Just the worst. They have almost a 100% success rate of misplacing, damaging, or misplacing my luggage, and their customer service is terrible.[/QUOTE]I too hate Avianca. In 2006 I arrived for check in at MIA just less than an hour before takeoff and those cunts denied me making me wait until the next day and charging me extra.

Regarding your Global entry challenge 'Yes' I believe if you incorrectly marked North versus South Korea would be a major red flag if for anything not catching this before you clicked 'Send' (not busting you happens to us all). Not reporting Cuba probably didn't help either. Think the DUI thing is past now.

Before contacting your Senator or Congress-person try a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request against CPB Agency. May cost some $ but in your request ask the status and if denied the reason why. Then depending on their reply I WOULD raise the concern with your USA Representative. Merely submitting a FOIA may make them jump through hoops and approve you.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397265]It's not as easy to do as some might think, especially for those renting an unfurnished apartment which does not include utilities, etc.

In other words, if your not going thru a company that rents furnished apartments including utilities like CASACOL or LIFEAFAR, it's going to be difficult for a foreigner to rent an unfurnished apartment like a Colombian. Unless the owner of the apartment is a foreigner, or perhaps something on AIRBNB, your going to have to have a Colombian Cedula to rent from a Colombian. And you will not be able to get utility service thru EPM without a Cedula, nor will you be able to get cable service thru CLARO or TIGO unless you get someone with a Colombian Cedula to sign up the account on your behalf and be responsible if the bills aren't paid under their "name".

Basically, without a Colombian Cedula, it can be very difficult for a foreigner to rent an apartment like a Colombian.

A good thought on your part, makes perfect sense as you suggested, but in reality tough to do.[/QUOTE]I didn't mention it but I was simply thinking of renting the apartment in a chica's name and paying the rent and bills. The thought of allowing her to stay in or tend to the apartment in my absence crossed my mind but I'm not too sure about that. Obviously she would not be around when I am there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2397493]I didn't mention it but I was simply thinking of renting the apartment in a chica's name and paying the rent and bills. The thought of allowing her to stay in or tend to the apartment in my absence crossed my mind but I'm not too sure about that. Obviously she would not be around when I am there.[/QUOTE]Well good luck with that.

Most Colombians are not going to want to let someone utilize their Cedula or rent on someone else'e behalf. Because if the person who is supposedly paying the rent, utilities, cable, etc. Doesn't pay in Colombia, they will get flagged in the system. As an example, if a Colombian has a bill with EPM the utility company from an apartment they had previously had and didn't pay the bill. Guess what, EPM will not provide them with new service until their paid.

I 'm not saying you can't do what your suggesting, I'm just pointing this out, as it may difficult to find someone to do what you want to do, especially a Chica.

Good luck!

Last night, it was around the hours when Lleras is converting from family / dinner to party time (9-10 p). I was leaving dinner and noticed two chicas in Lleras. Tall, skinny negrita, and a petite blonde. Both great bodies and cute faces. I made eye contact with both, but kept walking. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to a bar, go home, find a chica, etc. I took a couple laps around Lleras / CL 10, and crossed paths 3 x with them. I finally saw the blonde alone, and decided it was fate. We exchanged some words, had a little laugh, and I said, "vamos".

My apartment is maybe a 7-8 min walk, with a chica in-tow. She quoted 200 k and said, "One hour, two hour. " I do like this routine of some evening drinks with dinner, then go off the grid, and come back into the epicenter around midnight. Anyhow, brought her back to the apartment and there wasn't much time wasted. 19 yo, super cute, good body, GFE. Massage, DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, shower, repeat. It was a good time, best of the trip, for sure. We got an Uber back to Lleras, and ended up having several drinks. My buddy met up, and ended up finding a chica he liked. There was an absolute stunner at Beer Store. Unbelievable body, drinking, dancing. She got sent home for being borracha, after making out with 3-4 girls.

Just before 4 a, we split up and I headed back to my apartment with the blonde. Opened up the windows, bent her over into the fresh air, and had a real passionate experience (sin condon 2 x, which is fucking retarded, but sometimes I do dumb shit, and fingers crossed). She stayed the night. We had great conversation, despite her speaking very little English, and my Spanish being average. Lots of laughs, stories, and inside jokes by the end of the night. I woke up early, she was still sleeping (after cuddling me all night, which was terrible. Hot, and I was slightly hungover), so I went to the gym. I messaged her to relax and I'll be back in an hour. I hid some of my valuables, but wasn't too worried. Portero had her info, I had cell, photos, IG, etc. (see above, re: dumb shit). Anyhow, when I was walking back from the gym, I saw her getting into an unmarked car. I flagged her down, got a goodbye kiss, and I think she's heading to Cartagena with her friend, today. All-in-all, 200 k, 3 pops, and a great night of total GFE. I will likely repeat, maybe multiple times. Oh, I paid the 200 k when we went back to Lleras. Thus, the TLN and 3rd pop were gratis.

I was hoping to hit Centro, yesterday, in the time range recommended by many-a-vet. Unfortunately, I got stuck with work BS, and missed the window of opportunity. Alas, couldn't have hoped for a better night.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2397403]It depends on what you're planning on paying them. If you're thinking to give them 30-40 k, no. They aren't going to spend 1.5 hours in taxis to go to Poblado for a 20 minute session.

If you're planning on offering 200 k, then some will probably be willing, but many will still turn you down.

If you're just wanting El Centro girls to come to your apartment, rent a place in El Centro. If you want to stay in Laureles and Poblado and still only want to see El Centro girls, go to El Centro and do them there. If you want to be in Poblado or Laureles and want girls in your apartment, use online sources: Facebook, Tinder, Mileroticos, Photoprepagos, etc.

There's no need to reinvent the wheel.[/QUOTE]The thought of taking an El Centro SW to Poblado is almost like taking a fish out of water!

The majority of them live in Strata 1 & 2 areas and have never been to Poblado. I did once take an EL Centro SW to Poblado. She had never been there, and she had a "deer in the headlights look" while there.

Good advice not to think of taking an El Centro SW out of their element as you have suggested.

Hey guys,

I am looking at going to Colombia next year and wanted to see if anyone had any advice on how to make the vacation what I want it to be. I have been to Medellin once before and absolutely loved it. I really monger to have sex with multiple women at once and last time I had a few threesomes and foursomes over the course of the trip and as you can expect this was relatively hit or miss as it tends to be with the chicas. For my next trip I was more or less looking for a "Dan Bilzerian" type experience where I have 4-5 girls with me for the duaration of a few days partying etc. I am 28 years old and would also be interested in a wingman if he is likeminded. I am wondering if anyone has experience with this and could help make this fantasy a reality. Money is not really an issue and would love to be around model type women for the duration. Any advice on this helps!

Yesterday I went to Conejitas and I spent a great time, the quality was very good, all kind of girls, blonde, ebony. I went in with a paisa 80 K for 45 minutes I think her name is Camila? I don't remember. After I saw her dancing I couldn't resist and I invited her for a drink, she told me 80 K for 30 minutes but we spent about 40 when someone knocked the door.

I don't know why this is my favorite place, maybe is because I haven't been in New Life that is highly reccomended for all of you.

The quality. Price relation in Conejitas I think is the best, maybe you could find better deals witha SW but I prefer to be in a safe place.

Sorry for my bad English is not my native language, Spanish is, if you need help with spanish and you are in Medellin we can hang out and have a conversartion so I can practice my English too. Jeje.

Good bye.

[QUOTE=GregorioPardo;2397559]Yesterday I went to Conejitas and I spent a great time, the quality was very good, all kind of girls, blonde, ebony. I went in with a paisa 80 K for 45 minutes I think her name is Camila? I don't remember. After I saw her dancing I couldn't resist and I invited her for a drink, she told me 80 K for 30 minutes but we spent about 40 when someone knocked the door.

I don't know why this is my favorite place, maybe is because I haven't been in New Life that is highly reccomended for all of you.

The quality. Price relation in Conejitas I think is the best, maybe you could find better deals witha SW but I prefer to be in a safe place.

Sorry for my bad English is not my native language, Spanish is, if you need help with spanish and you are in Medellin we can hang out and have a conversartion so I can practice my English too. Jeje.

Good bye.[/QUOTE]Good to see that you too enjoy the local clubs and strip bars. I have pulled chicas from just about every bar and casa in the whole of Medellin and have been in Playboy (Conejitas) more time than I can count over the past 4 or so years but this is one place that I never have session-ed with a chica in, I have come close but never sealed the deal.

How are the rooms / beds in the back?

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Jetsetter11;2397554]Hey guys,

I am looking at going to Colombia next year and wanted to see if anyone had any advice on how to make the vacation what I want it to be. I have been to Medellin once before and absolutely loved it. I really monger to have sex with multiple women at once and last time I had a few threesomes and foursomes over the course of the trip and as you can expect this was relatively hit or miss as it tends to be with the chicas. For my next trip I was more or less looking for a "Dan Bilzerian" type experience where I have 4-5 girls with me for the duaration of a few days partying etc. I am 28 years old and would also be interested in a wingman if he is likeminded. I am wondering if anyone has experience with this and could help make this fantasy a reality. Money is not really an issue and would love to be around model type women for the duration. Any advice on this helps![/QUOTE]In your quest for a wingman the first thing you need to do is state the exact dates you are going to be in MDE.

As far as you stating money is not an issue then your fantasy can be a reality. Of course with that many Chica's in a few days you will most likely hit some drama.

So do you speak Spanish? If so a little trick is to not let them know that you do. They will talk to each other freely, and you will really know what is going on.

So I would think you are going to need help to pull this off. If so I like they way you dream, and offer you the best of luck.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2397624]So do you speak Spanish? If so a little trick is to not let them know that you do. They will talk to each other freely, and you will really know what is going on.[/QUOTE]Could you or anyone else possibly elaborate on this? I speak fluent Spanish though I was born in the states, and I've been weighing pros and cons of this. On the one hand you get a real glimpse of what's going on, on the other hand you're categorized as a "gringo".

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2397535]Last night, it was around the hours when Lleras is converting from family / dinner to party time (9-10 p). I was leaving dinner and noticed two chicas in Lleras. Tall, skinny negrita, and a petite blonde. Both great bodies and cute faces. I made eye contact with both, but kept walking. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to a bar, go home, find a chica, etc. I took a couple laps around Lleras / CL 10, and crossed paths 3 x with them. I finally saw the blonde alone, and decided it was fate. We exchanged some words, had a little laugh, and I said, "vamos".

My apartment is maybe a 7-8 min walk, with a chica in-tow. She quoted 200 k and said, "One hour, two hour. " I do like this routine of some evening drinks with dinner, then go off the grid, and come back into the epicenter around midnight. Anyhow, brought her back to the apartment and there wasn't much time wasted. 19 yo, super cute, good body, GFE. Massage, DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions, shower, repeat. It was a good time, best of the trip, for sure. We got an Uber back to Lleras, and ended up having several drinks. My buddy met up, and ended up finding a chica he liked. There was an absolute stunner at Beer Store. Unbelievable body, drinking, dancing. She got sent home for being borracha, after making out with 3-4 girls.

Just before 4 a, we split up and I headed back to my apartment with the blonde. Opened up the windows, bent her over into the fresh air, and had a real passionate experience (sin condon 2 x, which is fucking retarded, but sometimes I do dumb shit, and fingers crossed). She stayed the night. We had great conversation, despite her speaking very little English, and my Spanish being average. Lots of laughs, stories, and inside jokes by the end of the night. I woke up early, she was still sleeping (after cuddling me all night, which was terrible. Hot, and I was slightly hungover), so I went to the gym. I messaged her to relax and I'll be back in an hour. I hid some of my valuables, but wasn't too worried. Portero had her info, I had cell, photos, IG, etc. (see above, re: dumb shit). Anyhow, when I was walking back from the gym, I saw her getting into an unmarked car. I flagged her down, got a goodbye kiss, and I think she's heading to Cartagena with her friend, today. All-in-all, 200 k, 3 pops, and a great night of total GFE. I will likely repeat, maybe multiple times. Oh, I paid the 200 k when we went back to Lleras. Thus, the TLN and 3rd pop were gratis.

I was hoping to hit Centro, yesterday, in the time range recommended by many-a-vet. Unfortunately, I got stuck with work BS, and missed the window of opportunity. Alas, couldn't have hoped for a better night.

Cheers![/QUOTE]This is a good report. If you hit it off with a Chica short-time, she frequently will be happy to stay with you all night for no more than originally agreed on. This used to be the norm in Medellin and it's heartening to know one can still do this.

I can't say much more than what's been said on the forum only reiterate. Had 2 fb chicas so far 200 k and taxi, bbj, one polvo that's fine with me. Mansion has been lots of girls in the bar. They had a thanksgiving party last night and was off the hook I'm mad I left too early and missed the girl squirting everywhere they pulled out some dildo statute or something LOL. My boy called me and told me I had left early bcuz I wasn't staying at the mansion but the wonderful guys over there were gracious enough to let me attend the party. Had one of the finest chicks of the trip at new life 150 k for the hour, she open to bbj for propina, #23 my favorite number had to take her, think her name is Mariana. Went on a tour with a chick met at mansion, 150 k she takes you to comuna 13 , pueblo paisa sure you can do it by yourself but for 5 hours of company for a first timer to Colombia for me it wasn't the worst investment. For those that don't speak Spanish she speaks pretty good English, I'll try to get her fb and post it for why'all if I can. Also at end of tour if you want to indulge in her other services it's available. Meeting with a chick I met off tinder tonight, see how this goes. Told her we go out, have some drinks, if we get along and she wants to go to hotel then we can come to an agreement so we see how this goes. Loving Colombia so far. I'm from the hood so I'm not a scary dude but not the toughest guy ever either but I feel super comfortable here. People are cool, transportation is easy. Viva Colombia.

Thank you for your input first of all. I am definitely worried about the drama portion of it. Seems fairly inevitable unless someone knows a group of girls that all like to party together and won't have the jealousy factor haha but even that may be wishful thinking. I also do not have a finite date that I am planning on going next hear so if someone has a suggestion for the group of girl to participate I am fairly flexible on exact dates. I would just like to have a group that gets along and is simply looking for a good time. Hopefully someone has already discovered this.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2397624]In your quest for a wingman the first thing you need to do is state the exact dates you are going to be in MDE.

As far as you stating money is not an issue then your fantasy can be a reality. Of course with that many Chica's in a few days you will most likely hit some drama.

So do you speak Spanish? If so a little trick is to not let them know that you do. They will talk to each other freely, and you will really know what is going on.

So I would think you are going to need help to pull this off. If so I like they way you dream, and offer you the best of luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2397660]I can't say much more than what's been said on the forum only reiterate. Had 2 fb chicas so far 200 k and taxi, bbj, one polvo that's fine with me. Mansion has been lots of girls in the bar. They had a thanksgiving party last night and was off the hook I'm mad I left too early and missed the girl squirting everywhere they pulled out some dildo statute or something LOL. My boy called me and told me I had left early bcuz I wasn't staying at the mansion but the wonderful guys over there were gracious enough to let me attend the party. Had one of the finest chicks of the trip at new life 150 k for the hour, she open to bbj for propina, #23 my favorite number had to take her, think her name is Mariana. Went on a tour with a chick met at mansion, 150 k she takes you to comuna 13 , pueblo paisa sure you can do it by yourself but for 5 hours of company for a first timer to Colombia for me it wasn't the worst investment. For those that don't speak Spanish she speaks pretty good English, I'll try to get her fb and post it for why'all if I can. Also at end of tour if you want to indulge in her other services it's available. Meeting with a chick I met off tinder tonight, see how this goes. Told her we go out, have some drinks, if we get along and she wants to go to hotel then we can come to an agreement so we see how this goes. Loving Colombia so far. I'm from the hood so I'm not a scary dude but not the toughest guy ever either but I feel super comfortable here. People are cool, transportation is easy. Viva Colombia.[/QUOTE]Did you say 150 K for a hour at New Life? I heard the price went up there, but I was there last Feb. ,and a hour cost 80 K.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2397695]Did you say 150 K for a hour at New Life? I heard the price went up there, but I was there last Feb. ,and a hour cost 80 K.[/QUOTE]Here you go.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2397695]Did you say 150 K for a hour at New Life? I heard the price went up there, but I was there last Feb. ,and a hour cost 80 K.[/QUOTE]My bad it was energy I was at. I did go by new life but didn’t partake

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397198]imagine being an immigration agent seeing hundreds of Passports a day. Basically, they put your Passport on the "reader", and if no red flags pop-up, they stamp your Passport. I would be bored out of my mind after about 15 minutes in that job.[/QUOTE]Bored, well, all they're probably thinking is getting to their pensions, and looking at all those passports thinking about which countries they could retire to. When they ask what do I do, I just say "retired, I put my twenty years' in" What else can they relate to working at that job? Finding some fantasy terrorist or catching a guy with a briefcase stuffed of cash? When hasidics with bags of undeclared diamonds pass under their noses every day and there's not a thing they can do about it, and they know it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397500]Well good luck with that.

Most Colombians are not going to want to let someone utilize their Cedula or rent on someone else'e behalf. Because if the person who is supposedly paying the rent, utilities, cable, etc. Doesn't pay in Colombia, they will get flagged in the system. As an example, if a Colombian has a bill with EPM the utility company from an apartment they had previously had and didn't pay the bill. Guess what, EPM will not provide them with new service until their paid.

I 'm not saying you can't do what your suggesting, I'm just pointing this out, as it may difficult to find someone to do what you want to do, especially a Chica.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Hmmm, I suppose I should pay her a fee for the privilege, but even overall that should be much cheaper than paying gringo prices for renting a gringo furnished apartment.

[QUOTE=Jetsetter11;2397679]Thank you for your input first of all. I am definitely worried about the drama portion of it. Seems fairly inevitable unless someone knows a group of girls that all like to party together and won't have the jealousy factor haha but even that may be wishful thinking. I also do not have a finite date that I am planning on going next hear so if someone has a suggestion for the group of girl to participate I am fairly flexible on exact dates. I would just like to have a group that gets along and is simply looking for a good time. Hopefully someone has already discovered this.[/QUOTE]Sounds like what your looking for is one hell of a wet dream for sure. Your looking for four or five girls to party with you, and service you on demand. You mentioned money was no object, and your a young stud at 28. A lot of the guys on this board may be close to double your age, if not more, and my bet is at least a few of them would like to partake in what your proposing.

Regardless, here is how I would go about doing what you want to do. Book a couple of rooms at the Mansion, at least two to three rooms. Mingle with some of the girls that go there, inform them your looking for other "playmates". If it were me, I would also conduct a trial run / interview / field test to determine which ones I wanted in my concubine. Take the first one you meet that seems "doable" and conduct the tryout. If she passes muster, have her invite one or more of her friends over, send her to one of your holding "rooms" while conducting more field tests, and perhaps after a few days, you will have been thru perhaps a dozen of them, and have the four or five you want in your concubine. And maybe keep a couple of "second stringers" in one of the holding rooms in case you have to discipline a few, or perhaps send some of them for a "time out". You also may end up having a favorite, or a "queen" ,who get's her own room during your stay. And if you don't speak Spanish, you also should get "translator" as well, a female one that perhaps give's good massages and head. Might as well go "first class" and have a bar tender as well.

You know when I think about this, I actually could do what I have proposed to you to do, but I'm just not a young stud anymore.

Anyways, I believe what you want to do is possible, and hopefully will not be a "wet dream" for you.

[QUOTE=Jetsetter11;2397679]Thank you for your input first of all. I am definitely worried about the drama portion of it. Seems fairly inevitable unless someone knows a group of girls that all like to party together and won't have the jealousy factor haha but even that may be wishful thinking. I also do not have a finite date that I am planning on going next hear so if someone has a suggestion for the group of girl to participate I am fairly flexible on exact dates. I would just like to have a group that gets along and is simply looking for a good time. Hopefully someone has already discovered this.[/QUOTE]Check MedellinGringo's recent posts. Maybe he can arrange something for you. I don't know him.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2397660]pueblo paisa[/QUOTE]Do you mean Pueblito Paisa? How do you like that place? I was underwhelmed.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2397812]Hmmm, I suppose I should pay her a fee for the privilege, but even overall that should be much cheaper than paying gringo prices for renting a gringo furnished apartment.[/QUOTE]It may be so on the surface. Have you done an actual analysis?

I am considering getting a second apartment when I stay in Medellin just for chicas. Something inexpensive that I might use twice a day, or be vacant for 1-2 days. My thoughts are to separate myself from my valuables at my primary apartment, but still have a place I can have some drinks stowed away with a little food and all the intimate necessities on location. I am staying on calle 9 west of parque Lleras, so I am looking for something in Poblado or areas near Parque Lleras. Anyone have suggestions that would be useful? It would have to be guest friendly (no porter needed. Preferably), and given the intent usage, something in the $15-20 a day range. I see some in the area, but they appear to be very public with rooms next to each other where my intent coming in & out would be on public display to the other guests, and that I do not want. Just curious what you guys think.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2397828]Do you mean Pueblito Paisa? How do you like that place? I was underwhelmed.[/QUOTE]Yes sir that's what I meant. Yeah it wasn't much I just like to do some touristy stuff to. I mean how many nuts can you really bust in a 2 week trip LOL.

I mentioned earlier I have a couple of friends who do this work. They tell me beyond what we see while we wait on line, they have regular training and briefings they have to attend. They are also under a certain amount of stress because they can suffer disciplinary hits up to and including dismissal (which means loss of pension) if miss decoy travelers ICE sends through with fake or inconsistent documents. They are also on the hook for people who make it past them with invalid documents and later commit crimes. They are on the lookout for signs of human trafficking and piracy. With that in mind we should be aware that when they investigate us it isn't generally to bust our balls or to spice up their day. They are doing their job and trying to stay out of trouble like anyone else.

We have zero to gain by every being a dick at the inspection stations. They treat it as hindering their investigations. To be fair, I've seen some of the inspectors be dicks to travelers. But more often than not in my experience they keep it professional. They are very closely supervised.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2397801]Bored, well, all they're probably thinking is getting to their pensions, and looking at all those passports thinking about which countries they could retire to. When they ask what do I do, I just say "retired, I put my twenty years' in" What else can they relate to working at that job? Finding some fantasy terrorist or catching a guy with a briefcase stuffed of cash? When hasidics with bags of undeclared diamonds pass under their noses every day and there's not a thing they can do about it, and they know it.[/QUOTE]

So I'm finally giving in to the Facebook strategy. Where do you guys get a photo to use for your profile? I created an account with a fake name and email, but I need a photo that isn't anywhere else on Facebook (or even a real person that Facebook's algorithms could find).

I generally like to interact with girls in person, so I've not used Facebook much. A few times, I've used my home / real Facebook profile with chicas in Medellin, but I don't want it to blow up with prepagos from another country, so I'm finally creating a designated fake profile for this hobby.

Forget about the drinks and snacks. Use a love motel like everybody else and be done with it.

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2397860]I am considering getting a second apartment when I stay in Medellin just for chicas. Something inexpensive that I might use twice a day, or be vacant for 1-2 days. My thoughts are to separate myself from my valuables at my primary apartment, but still have a place I can have some drinks stowed away with a little food and all the intimate necessities on location. I am staying on calle 9 west of parque Lleras, so I am looking for something in Poblado or areas near Parque Lleras. Anyone have suggestions that would be useful? It would have to be guest friendly (no porter needed. Preferably), and given the intent usage, something in the $15-20 a day range. I see some in the area, but they appear to be very public with rooms next to each other where my intent coming in & out would be on public display to the other guests, and that I do not want. Just curious what you guys think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2397894]So I'm finally giving in to the Facebook strategy. Where do you guys get a photo to use for your profile? I created an account with a fake name and email, but I need a photo that isn't anywhere else on Facebook (or even a real person that Facebook's algorithms could find).

I generally like to interact with girls in person, so I've not used Facebook much. A few times, I've used my home / real Facebook profile with chicas in Medellin, but I don't want it to blow up with prepagos from another country, so I'm finally creating a designated fake profile for this hobby.[/QUOTE]Find some actor or celebrity that bears the slightest resemblance and use one of their photos. Those are public domain.

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2397860]I am considering getting a second apartment when I stay in Medellin just for chicas. Something inexpensive that I might use twice a day, or be vacant for 1-2 days. My thoughts are to separate myself from my valuables at my primary apartment, but still have a place I can have some drinks stowed away with a little food and all the intimate necessities on location. I am staying on calle 9 west of parque Lleras, so I am looking for something in Poblado or areas near Parque Lleras. Anyone have suggestions that would be useful? It would have to be guest friendly (no porter needed. Preferably), and given the intent usage, something in the $15-20 a day range. I see some in the area, but they appear to be very public with rooms next to each other where my intent coming in & out would be on public display to the other guests, and that I do not want. Just curious what you guys think.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you're looking for an El Centro apartment in Poblado. I doubt if you'll find anything like you want in that price range close to Parque Lleras. You're basically looking for a $50 hotel room in the heart of Manhattan.

Raise your price range to $40-$75 a night and you'll probably find what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Combo;2397894]So I'm finally giving in to the Facebook strategy. Where do you guys get a photo to use for your profile? I created an account with a fake name and email, but I need a photo that isn't anywhere else on Facebook (or even a real person that Facebook's algorithms could find).

I generally like to interact with girls in person, so I've not used Facebook much. A few times, I've used my home / real Facebook profile with chicas in Medellin, but I don't want it to blow up with prepagos from another country, so I'm finally creating a designated fake profile for this hobby.[/QUOTE]You're over thinking it. It doesn't even need to be a person. Just pick anything, pretty much. Mine is a pic I took from a bar at park lleares. I would use a pic of like an airplane at the gate or gutape or nacional soccer pic or anything the girls can recognize that might make them think you travel or go to Medellin. BTW that is the only pic I have on my profile and have plenty of P4 P girls friending me.

I landed in Medellin with no hotel reservation, so in the airport, I booked ayenda 1235 for 1 night. I definitely don't like it here.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393996]I leave latina kitty cat heaven tomorrow so I'm just going to write a summary as I've gone into detail on individual days already.

1. Hotel= ayenda 1235 botero; 2. 5 stars hotel imo, decent breakfast, rooftop view and girlfriendly. You're going to need to ask for a fan though and the wifi only works in the lobby of the first floor which is the biggest downfall imo but at such a cheap price its worth it.

2. Medication;.[/QUOTE]

Wagwaan. Another Jamaican here.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2393463]I'm from Jamaica and I definitely can dance, had no issues dancing at the reggaeton club with her as its basically just grinding and tis all we do in my country. I am still learning to salsa and I clearly was trying, I felt disrespected at the end of the day. I would've left her right there but I knew she was broke and ima good guy. I'll try not to judge all colombian women from this one instance but I just wanted some opinions on the matter.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2397889]I mentioned earlier I have a couple of friends who do this work. They tell me beyond what we see while we wait on line, they have regular training and briefings they have to attend. They are also under a certain amount of stress because they can suffer disciplinary hits up to and including dismissal (which means loss of pension) if miss decoy travelers ICE sends through with fake or inconsistent documents. They are also on the hook for people who make it past them with invalid documents and later commit crimes. They are on the lookout for signs of human trafficking and piracy. With that in mind we should be aware that when they investigate us it isn't generally to bust our balls or to spice up their day. They are doing their job and trying to stay out of trouble like anyone else.

We have zero to gain by every being a dick at the inspection stations. They treat it as hindering their investigations. To be fair, I've seen some of the inspectors be dicks to travelers. But more often than not in my experience they keep it professional. They are very closely supervised.[/QUOTE]I concur completely with your sentiments, the CBP folks are just doing their jobs, and I haven't read any posts, about any of the members of this board, being a "dick" to any of them.

The problem members are having though, based on their posts, has been that nobody can seem to get a straight answer as to why they are constantly being sent thru secondary, and / or denied entry into one of it's programs such as Global Entry. That's the frustration people are having in my opinion.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2397950]You're over thinking it. It doesn't even need to be a person. Just pick anything, pretty much. Mine is a pic I took from a bar at park lleares. I would use a pic of like an airplane at the gate or gutape or nacional soccer pic or anything the girls can recognize that might make them think you travel or go to Medellin. BTW that is the only pic I have on my profile and have plenty of P4 P girls friending me.[/QUOTE]I have seen a few obvious mongers during my perusing of Chica profiles, and I think the profile photos I have seen that I suspect are the most eye catching to a prepago are the ones where the guy is sitting with a bunch of cash spread out in from of him, its not me, but I am just saying.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2397660]I can't say much more than what's been said on the forum only reiterate. Had 2 fb chicas so far 200 k and taxi, bbj, one polvo that's fine with me. Mansion has been lots of girls in the bar. They had a thanksgiving party last night and was off the hook I'm mad I left too early and missed the girl squirting everywhere they pulled out some dildo statute or something LOL. My boy called me and told me I had left early bcuz I wasn't staying at the mansion but the wonderful guys over there were gracious enough to let me attend the party. Had one of the finest chicks of the trip at new life 150 k for the hour, she open to bbj for propina, #23 my favorite number had to take her, think her name is Mariana. Went on a tour with a chick met at mansion, 150 k she takes you to comuna 13 , pueblo paisa sure you can do it by yourself but for 5 hours of company for a first timer to Colombia for me it wasn't the worst investment. For those that don't speak Spanish she speaks pretty good English, I'll try to get her fb and post it for why'all if I can. Also at end of tour if you want to indulge in her other services it's available. Meeting with a chick I met off tinder tonight, see how this goes. Told her we go out, have some drinks, if we get along and she wants to go to hotel then we can come to an agreement so we see how this goes. Loving Colombia so far. I'm from the hood so I'm not a scary dude but not the toughest guy ever either but I feel super comfortable here. People are cool, transportation is easy. Viva Colombia.[/QUOTE]Where you ever able to find that girl's facebook details. I'd like to hire a tour driver myself.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2397833]It may be so on the surface. Have you done an actual analysis?[/QUOTE]Renting an unfurnished apartment in Medellin is much much cheaper than renting a furnished apartment designated for gringos. Ask a Colombian who's doing so how much he pays.

[QUOTE=Jetsetter11;2397554]Hey guys,

I am looking at going to Colombia next year and wanted to see if anyone had any advice on how to make the vacation what I want it to be. I have been to Medellin once before and absolutely loved it. I really monger to have sex with multiple women at once and last time I had a few threesomes and foursomes over the course of the trip and as you can expect this was relatively hit or miss as it tends to be with the chicas. For my next trip I was more or less looking for a "Dan Bilzerian" type experience where I have 4-5 girls with me for the duaration of a few days partying etc. I am 28 years old and would also be interested in a wingman if he is likeminded. I am wondering if anyone has experience with this and could help make this fantasy a reality. Money is not really an issue and would love to be around model type women for the duration. Any advice on this helps![/QUOTE]What are your priorities?

Is your top priority to be surrounded by model type women for a few days? Is your top priority to have group sex with several women? Is your top priority to party with several women? How you accomplish your dream depends on what's most important to you.

If you're mainly interested in models, start digging into Instagram. Find the women who have the right look and start making offers. Once you get one to agree to the terms, ask if she has friends to recommend. Extend the offer to any who also have the right look. You'll want a high end party condo, with its own pool and jacuzzi. You'll probably want a limousine service as well. You might have to deal with drama, you might be unable to get them all involved in sex at the same time, but you'll have the hanging with models experience.

If you're more focused on the group sex and partying aspects, start working Facebook. You'll have no problem finding a group of women who will party with you. You may have trouble finding 4 or 5 girls who'll meet all your sexual requirements. Once again, there may be drama issues and sexual performance issues with the girls.

There are other ways to find the girls, but most of them require you to be in Medellin.

One question. How's your Spanish? If you can't at least carry on a basic conversation without Google translate, I see nothing but headaches.

Here are the problems that I see, beginning with the model types. I've been around a few. Some are fine. Some are difficult. I remember a party in Poblado where one guy showed up with a model. She was sparkling and all smiles for 5 minutes while she was the center of attention. Then she got pissy because her date was spending time talking with his friends. They left after 30 minutes. Now imagine 5 women, all wanting to be the center of attention. Next, imagine trying to get them all naked and interacting with you and each other. If you're lucky, 2 will be satisfying you while the rest are taking selfies.

If you stick with regular prepagos, you may be able to avoid the primadonna attitudes, but there are other potential problems. Some girls party well, some don't. Stumbling drunk, puking, crying or fighting girls tend to take the fun out of a reverse gang bang. If you're partying along with them you may wake up to find the girls paid themselves and let themselves out, liberating anything of value they could carry. This may include your passport, phone and wallet.

Is money no object? I'm asking because usually, when people say "money is no object", it turns out money is definitely an object. If money is really no object, here's a way to avoid some of the problems:

Take 2 trips. The first trip is to meet girls, test them out and decide on your group. Let them know how many days they'll be with you and make sure they are okay with that. Many will have difficulty being away from family that long.

You'll also be picking your accommodations. If you want to be seen with your harem, find a suitable place in Poblado and let the owner know your intentions. Also make arrangements with a limo service.

If you just want to hang out and party with the girls, find a suitable finca, where you can have the whole place to yourself.

On your second trip, pick up the girls, make sure they all packed sufficient clothes and take them to your place. Make sure you're well stocked with everything you need and good luck.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2397950]You're over thinking it. It doesn't even need to be a person. Just pick anything, pretty much. Mine is a pic I took from a bar at park lleares. I would use a pic of like an airplane at the gate or gutape or nacional soccer pic or anything the girls can recognize that might make them think you travel or go to Medellin. BTW that is the only pic I have on my profile and have plenty of P4 P girls friending me.[/QUOTE]This is what I do. I use a few photos of Guatape, San Andres and Cartagena and I rotate them, this gets their attention as many aspire to go to these places and take a billion selfies, many of the more popular chicas have been to all of these places but think that a gringo that has been there might bring them back. I have over 1000 Medellin "friends".

I wasn't paying attention. Was there really a debate the cost of furnished vs. Unfurnished apartments? Unfurnished apartments are cheaper by a lot.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2398095]Renting an unfurnished apartment in Medellin is much much cheaper than renting a furnished apartment designated for gringos. Ask a Colombian who's doing so how much he pays.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2397919]Find some actor or celebrity that bears the slightest resemblance and use one of their photos. Those are public domain.[/QUOTE]Who would do such a thing? Jajaja.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2398125]I wasn't paying attention. Was there really a debate the cost of furnished vs. Unfurnished apartments? Unfurnished apartments are cheaper by a lot.[/QUOTE]True but what is the break even point after everything considered? 6 months is a pretty high bar.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2397956]I landed in Medellin with no hotel reservation, so in the airport, I booked ayenda 1235 for 1 night. I definitely don't like it here.[/QUOTE]I had booked 17 nights in Jan. At 1325 Botero. I liked the location, and the price. After reading your post I changed my reservation to only 5 nights, with the other 12 nights at another hotel in Centro. I decided to stick it out there for a short stay so I can decide if I want to stay there on another trip.

Great reply, thank you for the insight. My Spanish is not to the level of fluent communication at all. I speak basic Spanish, but having the communication skills to manage 4-5 women at once in this kind of scenario as a solo traveler is not an option for me.

Before my reply; what is the deal with Instagram? I have had zero luck meeting anyone on that app. I add 50-100 girls and email them all and get maybe 1-2 replies that go nowhere. I gave up and moved to Facebook and have had success there. But any tips you can give for getting attention from girls on Instagram?

My goal is to have mostly 1 on 1 with girls, and some that can perform kinks like handcuffs, being spanked, and tied and using sex toys. And some other stuff. Trios are certainly on the menu, but I wonder your thoughts if it is best to bring two girls together that do not know each other, or is it better to have 2 girls that are friends with each other (given my lack of Spanish skills)? Pros & cons?

I have already reserved a small nice 1 bedroom apartment in El Poblado. Nothing fancy. Money is somewhat of an issue. I can spend $1,000-$1500 usd a week on girls and entertainment, but high end apartments with pools, limo service, etc will probably exceed that budget. Especially paying 6 girls at a time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2398101]What are your priorities?

Is your top priority to be surrounded by model type women for a few days? Is your top priority to have group sex with several women? Is your top priority to party with several women? How you accomplish your dream depends on what's most important to you.

If you're mainly interested in models, start digging into Instagram. Find the women who have the right look and start making offers. Once you get one to agree to the terms, ask if she has friends to recommend. Extend the offer to any who also have the right look. You'll want a high end party condo, with its own pool and jacuzzi. You'll probably want a limousine service as well. You might have to deal with drama, you might be unable to get them all involved in sex at the same time, but you'll have the hanging with models experience.

If you're more focused on the group sex and partying aspects, start working Facebook. You'll have no problem finding a group of women who will party with you. You may have trouble finding 4 or 5 girls who'll meet all your sexual requirements. Once again, there may be drama issues and sexual performance issues with the girls..[/QUOTE]

I am not ruling it out, but where are these love motels in the Poblado area? I see nothing on google searches or motel sights, etc. And I have found nothing that shows a mapped location of hourly motels in Medellin. I thought I saw a map that someone here had made that might reference these locations, but I have not been able to find it.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2397908]Forget about the drinks and snacks. Use a love motel like everybody else and be done with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2397964]Wagwaan. Another Jamaican here.[/QUOTE]Wah gwan mi breda haaahhaah. Why don't you like the hotel? It's a 2. 5 star hotel that cost $10.5 per night if you book for a single person, I think it's as good as it gets for that price bro, don't be stush. The hotel's location is definitely not in the greatest spot in the world but coming from Jamaica you shouldn't feel out of place because even in Cherry Gardens / Norbook with $1 mill usd houses you still can't walk around at night, Colombia is way safer than Jamaica, I'm just not used to seeing drug addicts out in the open which is the only difference. I saw a pretty girl with her BF searching the trash for food in Centro while smoking something, Centro is wild because in Jamaica you definitely don't see attractive homeless women.

Good question on priorities. I guess I would say that my priority is partying with several beautiful women and having a long weekend I'll remember forever. I also applied the last suggestion you gave to my last trip and do have one female contact from a great previous experience. I could go through her and these is some relative "trust" there. I am mainly wanting to see if anyone has had any similar experiences or know a group a girls that are some what field tested and would be great in this situation. The mode types would be more of a cherry on top. A lot of the Colombian girls are very beautiful as you all know so I have been very satisfied. Maybe that is more of the ideal scenario in my head.

Secondly Spanish is someone of an issue still. I have been doing my best to learn it but am still a struggle to hold a conversation other than generally greetings and understanding a third of what was said and piecing it together. I may delay the trip until I am a little more sufficient in this area as I definitely recognized it's value during my first trip. Also when it comes to "money is not an issue" I mean more of I have prepared to budget even paying the gringo price for this experience and then some, so it is not an issue for this scenario. If it actually wasn't an issue I would likely not be having to go this route for this fantasy LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2398101]What are your priorities?

Is your top priority to be surrounded by model type women for a few days? Is your top priority to have group sex with several women? Is your top priority to party with several women? How you accomplish your dream depends on what's most important to you.

If you're mainly interested in models, start digging into Instagram. Find the women who have the right look and start making offers. Once you get one to agree to the terms, ask if she has friends to recommend. Extend the offer to any who also have the right look. You'll want a high end party condo, with its own pool and jacuzzi. You'll probably want a limousine service as well. You might have to deal with drama, you might be unable to get them all involved in sex at the same time, but you'll have the hanging with models experience.

If you're more focused on the group sex and partying aspects, start working Facebook. You'll have no problem finding a group of women who will party with you. You may have trouble finding 4 or 5 girls who'll meet all your sexual requirements. Once again, there may be drama issues and sexual performance issues with the girls.[/QUOTE]

I would love to hold a tryout like you mention. Would definitely be ideal to eliminate drama etc and I would say that is what a I was hoping to achieve on my first trip and somewhat did. Unfortunately, one of the things I don't have is a lot of available time to do that. I can likely only get away for three days at a time due to a hectic schedule. My low level Spanish definitely requires a translator ideally and I definitely recognize the value of that. Thanks for your input hopefully I pull it off with minimal issues.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2397824]Sounds like what your looking for is one hell of a wet dream for sure. Your looking for four or five girls to party with you, and service you on demand.[/QUOTE]

Real ting breda. I felt safe in Centero and it was the only place no one try beg mi a ting. But I couldn't hold a proper meds and feel comfortable in that environment. Now that I changed my location to a spot near Lleras Park, I'm realizing I maybe should have stayed in Centero because there is more variety within walking distance. But a so mi stush when mi fly out.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2398268]Wah gwan mi breda haaahhaah. Why don't you like the hotel? It's a 2. 5 star hotel that cost $10.5 per night if you book for a single person, I think it's as good as it gets for that price bro, don't be stush. The hotel's location is definitely not in the greatest spot in the world but coming from Jamaica you shouldn't feel out of place because even in Cherry Gardens / Norbook with $1 mill usd houses you still can't walk around at night, Colombia is way safer than Jamaica, I'm just not used to seeing drug addicts out in the open which is the only difference. I saw a pretty girl with her BF searching the trash for food in Centro while smoking something, Centro is wild because in Jamaica you definitely don't see attractive homeless women.[/QUOTE]

What other hotel did you book? Although 1235 was dingy, I did think it was clean. My main issue was with the general environment with the drugged out people and the disheartening level of level of abject poverty.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2398248]I had booked 17 nights in Jan. At 1325 Botero. I liked the location, and the price. After reading your post I changed my reservation to only 5 nights, with the other 12 nights at another hotel in Centro. I decided to stick it out there for a short stay so I can decide if I want to stay there on another trip.[/QUOTE]

If you are unfamiliar with the hotels, why commit to so many days? You can easily check out other places when you are there and switch hotels. That is what I did and finally settled on ARBNB places.

But that is my preference.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2398248]I had booked 17 nights in Jan. At 1325 Botero. I liked the location, and the price. After reading your post I changed my reservation to only 5 nights, with the other 12 nights at another hotel in Centro. I decided to stick it out there for a short stay so I can decide if I want to stay there on another trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2398251]I am not ruling it out, but where are these love motels in the Poblado area? I see nothing on google searches or motel sights, etc. And I have found nothing that shows a mapped location of hourly motels in Medellin. I thought I saw a map that someone here had made that might reference these locations, but I have not been able to find it.[/QUOTE]The only love motel I'm aware of in Poblado is Las Cabanas. The cheap hourly places are mostly in El Centro, although there are also some in Itagui, in the Mayorista area.

For the map, go down the page to the Medellin maps and lists thread.

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2398249]Great reply, thank you for the insight. My Spanish is not to the level of fluent communication at all. I speak basic Spanish, but having the communication skills to manage 4-5 women at once in this kind of scenario as a solo traveler is not an option for me.

Before my reply; what is the deal with Instagram? I have had zero luck meeting anyone on that app. I add 50-100 girls and email them all and get maybe 1-2 replies that go nowhere. I gave up and moved to Facebook and have had success there. But any tips you can give for getting attention from girls on Instagram?

My goal is to have mostly 1 on 1 with girls, and some that can perform kinks like handcuffs, being spanked, and tied and using sex toys. And some other stuff. Trios are certainly on the menu, but I wonder your thoughts if it is best to bring two girls together that do not know each other, or is it better to have 2 girls that are friends with each other (given my lack of Spanish skills)? Pros & cons?

I have already reserved a small nice 1 bedroom apartment in El Poblado. Nothing fancy. Money is somewhat of an issue. I can spend $1,000-$1500 usd a week on girls and entertainment, but high end apartments with pools, limo service, etc will probably exceed that budget. Especially paying 6 girls at a time.[/QUOTE]Mostly I wouldn't bother with Instagram. That's really only if you're looking for genuine models and you're willing to spend big. If I was trying to work Instagram, I'd work my own Instagram first. Selfies from around the world, exotic locations, exotic cars, or with famous people. Most of the Instagram girls are already making good money modeling. Getting their attention requires convincing them that you're either a potential step to the next level, or that you have enough money to make it worthwhile.

It sounds like you're already on the right path. Is the apartment you reserved chica friendly? There's no reason to rent a second apartment. If it is chica friendly, just keep your valuables stashed away, keep your wits about you, keep your eyes on the girls and you should be fine.

My preference, when I couldn't bring girls back to my apartment, was to use Motel Ibiza. It's expensive, as love motels go, about 100 k for 6 hours. However, it has a jacuzzi tub, is clean and the girls love it. The room options are simple. Either a room with jacuzzi or a room with jacuzzi and sauna. "Solo con jacuzzi" is my choice.

For trios I would stick with girls who know each other. The easiest route is to find one girl that's a top performer for you and talk to her about it. Many girls are bisexual and have friends they are comfortable with. Just let her bring a friend.

You need to be specific about what you want. Many girls will bring along a friend, or even a cousin for a trio, but it's really just a tag team match. One will be sitting bored while you're with the other, then they'll switch. You need to specify that you're wanting the girls to interact with each other. It still may take some direction on your part.

Your other kinks should be easy enough. Most of the girls will be happy to oblige.

[QUOTE=Jetsetter11;2398272]Good question on priorities. I guess I would say that my priority is partying with several beautiful women and having a long weekend I'll remember forever. I also applied the last suggestion you gave to my last trip and do have one female contact from a great previous experience. I could go through her and these is some relative "trust" there. I am mainly wanting to see if anyone has had any similar experiences or know a group a girls that are some what field tested and would be great in this situation. The mode types would be more of a cherry on top. A lot of the Colombian girls are very beautiful as you all know so I have been very satisfied. Maybe that is more of the ideal scenario in my head.

Secondly Spanish is someone of an issue still. I have been doing my best to learn it but am still a struggle to hold a conversation other than generally greetings and understanding a third of what was said and piecing it together. I may delay the trip until I am a little more sufficient in this area as I definitely recognized it's value during my first trip. Also when it comes to "money is not an issue" I mean more of I have prepared to budget even paying the gringo price for this experience and then some, so it is not an issue for this scenario. If it actually wasn't an issue I would likely not be having to go this route for this fantasy LOL.[/QUOTE]Now we're making progress. If you have a girl who you enjoy and trust, she's your best resource. She almost certainly has friends who could use the money. Some of those friends may be non-pros. I remember trying to help get some girls to show up for a gringo P4P party. Sent a message to one girl, explained the situation, told her taxi would be covered and asked her to bring friends. She brought 3 and 2 weren't working girls, but were willing to be for one night.

As I said elsewhere, when setting this up, be specific. Figure out step by step how you want the fantasy to play out. Tell your girl what you're looking for and put her in charge of making it happen. Offer her a bonus for completing everything to your satisfaction.

I've never tried that big of a group. 2 women at a time are plenty for me. Here's how I would go about it:

First, for your primary, lead girl, pick one who likes to party like you. If you like to drink and dance, she should like it too. Have her pick the other girls and send you pictures. Lay out your plan for the evening. I say evening, because trying to keep the party going for 48 hours straight probably won't work. Party one night, rest, recover and repeat.

Since you're just looking for beautiful and fun, instead of models, you can go a different route than renting some $500-$1000 per night place. Just rent a normal apartment.

I would limit myself to 4 girls, especially considering your level of Spanish. Not only does it simplify things, you can skip the limo and all squeeze into 1 taxi or Uber.

I'll use Parque Lleras as my example. Have the girls meet you at the Beer Store. Have 1 round of drinks and then walk to The Greek Connection for dinner. After dinner walk to one of the discos. Get a bottle and do some dancing. After a few hours, go grab a taxi.

You'll want to reserve the Presidential Suite at Motel Ibiza beforehand. It's suitable for a group your size and should cost about $250 to stay until morning. Take the taxi to Motel Ibiza and have your fun. In the morning, pay everyone, call for 2 taxis (1 for you, 1 for the girls) and go back to your room to rest up for the repeat.

Ideally, your lead girl has enough friends so you can scrap any weak performers and replace them for round 2.

I don't know how well you speak spanish, but, I don't stay in Lleras nor in Centro. I prefer Laureles and so do alot of other people.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2398365]Real ting breda. I felt safe in Centero and it was the only place no one try beg mi a ting. But I couldn't hold a proper meds and feel comfortable in that environment. Now that I changed my location to a spot near Lleras Park, I'm realizing I maybe should have stayed in Centero because there is more variety within walking distance. But a so mi stush when mi fly out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2398371]What other hotel did you book? Although 1235 was dingy, I did think it was clean. My main issue was with the general environment with the drugged out people and the disheartening level of level of abject poverty.[/QUOTE]This is a part of what you posted { I booked ayenda 1235 for 1 night. I definitely don't like it here. }.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you meant you did not like the hotel. I guess what you really meant was you did not like the area.

Anyway I ended up booking hotel Romanza. I have stayed there before, and it is very comfortable, but a little more of a walk to ground zero action.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2398445]If you are unfamiliar with the hotels, why commit to so many days? You can easily check out other places when you are there and switch hotels. That is what I did and finally settled on ARBNB places.

But that is my preference.[/QUOTE]There was not a problem to change hotels as there was no charge if I gave notice two days before check in. The other hotel I ended up with I have stayed there before.

I hope he executes, because this is sound advise.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2398479]Now we're making progress. If you have a girl who you enjoy and trust, she's your best resource. She almost certainly has friends who could use the money. Some of those friends may be non-pros. I remember trying to help get some girls to show up for a gringo P4P party. Sent a message to one girl, explained the situation, told her taxi would be covered and asked her to bring friends. She brought 3 and 2 weren't working girls, but were willing to be for one night.

As I said elsewhere, when setting this up, be specific. Figure out step by step how you want the fantasy to play out. Tell your girl what you're looking for and put her in charge of making it happen. Offer her a bonus for completing everything to your satisfaction.[/QUOTE]

I ended up spending much of the afternoon in Centero. First went to New Life based on Rude Bwoy's report. I forgot the name of the girl I picked, she looked early 30, curvy (ass and tits looked enhanced). Perfectly proportioned, though. Not what I usually go for. Being that I'm late 20's, I like my girls early 20's at the oldest, petite and cute. But this chick rode me good and then talked my ear off, despite only understanding 10% of what she said. She seemed intrigued by my 5 city tour of Colombia and had her experience of the cities to share. Definitely would be good company back in the apartment in Poblado. Too bad I didn't get her number.

I also picked up this cute skinny chick near ground zero. Couldn't be much more than 100 pounds. Given that I've been to Asia 4 times for punting, I have a thing for skinny girls. It was a disaster though because I took sildenafil after I left New Life and my heart was already beating fast as I walked around the park. Got to the short time room, no AC or window and this chick is telling me rapido time is limited. Now, for a skinny girl, her hole was rather large, so a quick nut wasn't going to be easy. By the time I nutted I could have sworn I was going to pass out. Had to sit in the hotel for at least 30 minutes sipping Gatorade and gather enough strength to get a taxi back up Poblado.

After today though, I can say that the most attractive girls in plaza botero are at least as attractive as the girls in Lleras Park. Last night I was in Lleras Park and did not see any girl worth 200 k.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2398549]This is a part of what you posted { I booked ayenda 1235 for 1 night. I definitely don't like it here. }.

I misunderstood your post. I thought you meant you did not like the hotel. I guess what you really meant was you did not like the area.

Anyway I ended up booking hotel Romanza. I have stayed there before, and it is very comfortable, but a little more of a walk to ground zero action.[/QUOTE]

I'm not super familiar with the city but went to thematic suites last night on la 33 from my apartment in poblado didn't seem far away at all and I'm in a place on calle 8 . Def was worth it, 58 mil for 2 hours. Took a little spinner I had met at the mansion and was fun as hell. Used the chair and it was the best fuck of the trip.

I don't tell many how to monger but I with Jbee 2 is enough. You think in your mind it would be great to be around 5 hot girls but they all have they own agenda and it won't be your agenda. Plus idk how much cum you think you have in your body but after 3-4 rounds you going to be done LOL. Sure with some pharmaceutical help you will be rock hard but I'm not in to running a marathon to get mine off. I would suggest staying at the mansion a couple nights, you can load your phone up with numbers, meet some groups of girls that are friends and might be with the program, they might not be the models you want but like the man said that's going to come at a premium and why waste money just to say they was there.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2398643]I don't tell many how to monger but I with Jbee 2 is enough. You think in your mind it would be great to be around 5 hot girls but they all have they own agenda and it won't be your agenda.[/QUOTE]You have some yard work to be done that is going to cost $10. You decide to bring in 5 people for the job. Are you going to pay each $10 to do the yard, or are you going to give them $2 each because they are each doing 1/5 of the work?

I think I am talking to a newbie chica on FB. I tried to ask her on a date and she was indecisive.

She is starting college soon, and I mentioned that I would be inclined to make a donation to her college fund.

That seems to soften her up, she would probably meet me, but any hints on closing the deal would be helpful.

I am enjoying the challenge of feeling this on in.

I went to the Mansion right when they were doing the construction a few months back. Everyone seemed confused and didn't know how it was going to pan out. Has anyone been there recently ? I feel like this is the end of the Mansion. But I have felt the end of the Mansion a few times before and it always seems to be a good trip. Also I heard Energy has a hotel attached now? Or is there another Energy that operates similar to the Mansion. I always wondered why no one else has replicated the Mansion with girls and a bar on site. Its a nice conveinece to have girls around if you don't feel like searching facebook or getting in a taxi. I always enjoyed the comradery among guests as well. Such a simple recipe " variety of Girls daily, decent rooms, a pool, drinks and good times". It seems things have turned to a " make your own trip" with facebooking girls and going out on a search. It was relaxing popping in a place and having them just lingering around all the time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2398670]You have some yard work to be done that is going to cost $10. You decide to bring in 5 people for the job. Are you going to pay each $10 to do the yard, or are you going to give them $2 each because they are each doing 1/5 of the work?[/QUOTE]I'm going bring 2 bcuz whenever there is work to be done there are a couple that's going to work hard and the others going to stand and around and talk and still want to be paid bcuz they showed up. Even if the amount totaled the same, I'm not into paying people for not doing shit LOL or even less than what they should have.

[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2398677]I went to the Mansion right when they were doing the construction a few months back. Everyone seemed confused and didn't know how it was going to pan out. Has anyone been there recently ? I feel like this is the end of the Mansion. But I have felt the end of the Mansion a few times before and it always seems to be a good trip. Also I heard Energy has a hotel attached now? Or is there another Energy that operates similar to the Mansion. I always wondered why no one else has replicated the Mansion with girls and a bar on site. Its a nice conveinece to have girls around if you don't feel like searching facebook or getting in a taxi. I always enjoyed the comradery among guests as well. Such a simple recipe " variety of Girls daily, decent rooms, a pool, drinks and good times". It seems things have turned to a " make your own trip" with facebooking girls and going out on a search. It was relaxing popping in a place and having them just lingering around all the time.[/QUOTE]I don't have past experience to base it on but I stayed at mansion 2 night when I arrived. Place was full and every one seemed happy. Monday lots of girls by the pool all day at night the bar was ok, it was enough to to choose, no stunners but could get the job done. Tuesday also was nice by the pool, and better in the bar that Tuesday night with I would guess about 20-30 girls. The mayor was getting them drunk got pretty wild I suppose. Colombian police had come by but didn't shut it down necessarily, I imagine they had gotten a noise complaint. When I left Wednesday by the pool was nada. But it was earlier still I'm talking about around check out time. But Thursday they had a thanksgiving party and it was dope, lot of girls, I never saw any dimes while I was there but plenty hot ones that could get it.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2398676]I think I am talking to a newbie chica on FB. I tried to ask her on a date and she was indecisive.

She is starting college soon, and I mentioned that I would be inclined to make a donation to her college fund.

That seems to soften her up, she would probably meet me, but any hints on closing the deal would be helpful.

I am enjoying the challenge of feeling this on in.[/QUOTE]I am probably not the most qualified to answer your question. I have only dealt pros, if a chica sounds indecisive, I just move on. My question for you is: are you in Medellin currently? Talking to these chicas before you are there is not a good ideal. At best it sounds like you are dealing with a semi-pro, not a newbie (from the little that you wrote about her anyway), I would have to be explicit. It's a business transaction, if I were buying / renting a car I wouldn't hint around about wanting to know if the engine worked. With a chica I might turn into a teasing kind of joke and say something like "we are going to dinner and for dessert I am going to bury my face between your legs" (never had a FB chica that did not respond positively to that suggestion). But of course you have to be you and use your own style, but prostitution is legal in Colombia, it's not like USA, if you want to be guaranteed to get what your paying for, you have be somewhat direct. " I pay women to have sex, are you interested?" Would be what I would ask.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2398612]I also picked up this cute skinny chick near ground zero. Couldn't be much more than 100 pounds. Given that I've been to Asia 4 times for punting, I have a thing for skinny girls. It was a disaster though because I took sildenafil after I left New Life and my heart was already beating fast as I walked around the park. Got to the short time room, no AC or window and this chick is telling me rapido time is limited. Now, for a skinny girl, her hole was rather large, so a quick nut wasn't going to be easy. By the time I nutted I could have sworn I was going to pass out. Had to sit in the hotel for at least 30 minutes sipping Gatorade and gather enough strength to get a taxi back up Poblado..[/QUOTE]What happened doesn't sound good, you stick it in her, her pussy opens up like a house, and your dick barely hit's the sides! I hate that, and usually abort the mission if they are that loose.

You would think the smaller / thin Chicas would have the tightest pussies, but sometimes they just don't, typically because of childbirth. It's all across the board with these Chicas. I know some who have three to four kids and are as tight as a drum, and I suppose it also depends on how well endowed you are girth wise, and what kind of muscle control the Chicas have. I have one that know's how to tighten it up like a vice clamp, and gives me a devilish look when she tightens it up on me and makes me squirm.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2398643]I don't tell many how to monger but I with Jbee 2 is enough. You think in your mind it would be great to be around 5 hot girls but they all have they own agenda and it won't be your agenda. Plus idk how much cum you think you have in your body but after 3-4 rounds you going to be done LOL. Sure with some pharmaceutical help you will be rock hard but I'm not in to running a marathon to get mine off. I would suggest staying at the mansion a couple nights, you can load your phone up with numbers, meet some groups of girls that are friends and might be with the program, they might not be the models you want but like the man said that's going to come at a premium and why waste money just to say they was there.[/QUOTE]I think what the original poster wants to do is quite doable.

The guy is under thirty, and I can remember at that age going more than 3-4 rounds in an evening a few days in a row, and with no pharmaceutical help, as it didn't exist back then.

For the second time in a year, Facebook disabled my "fake" account before I was able to use it. I'm not sure what I could have done differently (other than create it on a different computer with different IP address). I used a fake (but real-sounding) name, newly created email, different birthday and city, and no photos that would identify me. They insisted I supply a face pic for my profile, so I went to one of those sites that have images of people that never existed. All for naught.

What are you guys doing to get past Facebook's security when you create a fake account? Or do you just use your regular account?

I never cared in the past as I preferred to meet them personally, but now I feel challenged to get through this.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante[/URL]

Be nice fellas she is a sweetheart.

[QUOTE=Combo;2398957]For the second time in a year, Facebook disabled my "fake" account before I was able to use it. I'm not sure what I could have done differently (other than create it on a different computer with different IP address). I used a fake (but real-sounding) name, newly created email, different birthday and city, and no photos that would identify me. They insisted I supply a face pic for my profile, so I went to one of those sites that have images of people that never existed. All for naught.

What are you guys doing to get past Facebook's security when you create a fake account? Or do you just use your regular account?

I never cared in the past as I preferred to meet them personally, but now I feel challenged to get through this.[/QUOTE]Try use it like you normally would, like uploading picture, and stuff like that before you start adding friends.

Just got back from Medellin. I was there from Monday to Sunday. Really needed some rest and relaxation, so I really did not go out a lot at night, other than a few nights at Chupito's.

Since I've been going to MDE so long, I get bored with only one thing. So I try to mix it up with my regular working girls, new working girls, and regular girls. Have to admit I'm a little lazy. I want them at my place. Since the place has a nice jacuzzi on the roof, it's not that hard to get them over. It has been years since I've been to a casa in Medellin and I've never made it to see the streetwalkers in Centro (although years ago I would go to Mayorista) on occasion.

The girls I saw ranged from 18 to 34. The 34 year old is a working girl, but her experience makes her good for repeat. We have great chemistry in bed. I've known her for about two years. The 18 year old is new and is not a working girl. So sweet and fresh. I saw a 20 year old who is also not a working girl. I've known her since she was 15. I dated her cousin. Once she turned 18, game on. Saw a few other regulars who are working girls, but don't seem (as far as I can tell) to be hardcore. They are regulars because they are sweet and we are friends and they know how to satisfy me. As previously mentioned, saw the non-pro who has a 4 month old baby. The girl with the big, milk-filled tits. While not my type (due to baby weight), she might have been the best fuck. Lots of moaning and screaming and multiple orgasms. Nice. Saw another non-pro of 24 years. She was on the rag, so didn't get to fuck her, but enjoyed some time with her alone. Great kisser.

All of these girls except one were found on Facebook. The one exception is someone I met at the Mansion years ago when I was staying there (I have been staying in Laureles for the past two years after staying in apartments in Poblado for a while). It takes some work. And it doesn't always work, but variety has been the spice of life for me.

I usually see two girls a day. Never really have the times for casas or street-walkers, because I can't even get to all of the girls on my list (which can cause some hard feelings with the girls you don't see). But there's always next month to try out a few new ones.

For those who have not used FB much, but want to. If you are only looking for a prepago, just ask the girl is she'll give you sex for money. If you want to up the stakes and try to find the "regular" girls, just start talking to them. Upfront, I always ask if they are looking for a friend, a boyfriend, or something else. Better to know up front, particularly if there is someone you don't want (like a girlfriend). I always treat them nice and compliment them on something real (in other words, I don't give them a false compliment. There is always something nice you can say). It takes a little time and effort, but it's not hard.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2398982]Just got back from Medellin. I was there from Monday to Sunday. Really needed some rest and relaxation, so I really did not go out a lot at night, other than a few nights at Chupito's.

Since I've been going to MDE so long, I get bored with only one thing. So I try to mix it up with my regular working girls, new working girls, and regular girls. Have to admit I'm a little lazy. I want them at my place. Since the place has a nice jacuzzi on the roof, it's not that hard to get them over. It has been years since I've been to a casa in Medellin and I've never made it to see the streetwalkers in Centro (although years ago I would go to Mayorista) on occasion.

The girls I saw ranged from 18 to 34. The 34 year old is a working girl, but her experience makes her good for repeat. We have great chemistry in bed. I've known her for about two years. The 18 year old is new and is not a working girl. So sweet and fresh. I saw a 20 year old who is also not a working girl. I've known her since she was 15. I dated her cousin. Once she turned 18, game on. Saw a few other regulars who are working girls, but don't seem (as far as I can tell) to be hardcore. They are regulars because they are sweet and we are friends and they know how to satisfy me. As previously mentioned, saw the non-pro who has a 4 month old baby. The girl with the big, milk-filled tits. While not my type (due to baby weight), she might have been the best fuck. Lots of moaning and screaming and multiple orgasms. Nice. Saw another non-pro of 24 years. She was on the rag, so didn't get to fuck her, but enjoyed some time with her alone. Great kisser.

All of these girls except one were found on Facebook. The one exception is someone I met at the Mansion years ago when I was staying there (I have been staying in Laureles for the past two years after staying in apartments in Poblado for a while). It takes some work. And it doesn't always work, but variety has been the spice of life for me.

I usually see two girls a day. Never really have the times for casas or street-walkers, because I can't even get to all of the girls on my list (which can cause some hard feelings with the girls you don't see). But there's always next month to try out a few new ones.

For those who have not used FB much, but want to. If you are only looking for a prepago, just ask the girl is she'll give you sex for money. If you want to up the stakes and try to find the "regular" girls, just start talking to them. Upfront, I always ask if they are looking for a friend, a boyfriend, or something else. Better to know up front, particularly if there is someone you don't want (like a girlfriend). I always treat them nice and compliment them on something real (in other words, I don't give them a false compliment. There is always something nice you can say). It takes a little time and effort, but it's not hard.[/QUOTE]Got to be careful though I was talking with a fine regular girl on FB she asked what I wanted to do with her I said take you out get to know you, why? Do you want to culiar and she blocked me LOL. Que pena bcuz she was fine.

Being that it takes time to work Facebook and your trip was only about a week, does that mean you started chatting with girls on Facebook before you arrived?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2398982]Just got back from Medellin. I was there from Monday to Sunday. Really needed some rest and relaxation, so I really did not go out a lot at night, other than a few nights at Chupito's.
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For those who have not used FB much, but want to. If you are only looking for a prepago, just ask the girl is she'll give you sex for money. If you want to up the stakes and try to find the "regular" girls, just start talking to them. Upfront, I always ask if they are looking for a friend, a boyfriend, or something else. Better to know up front, particularly if there is someone you don't want (like a girlfriend). I always treat them nice and compliment them on something real (in other words, I don't give them a false compliment. There is always something nice you can say). It takes a little time and effort, but it's not hard.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2398906]I am probably not the most qualified to answer your question. I have only dealt pros, if a chica sounds indecisive, I just move on. My question for you is: are you in Medellin currently? Talking to these chicas before you are there is not a good ideal. At best it sounds like you are dealing with a semi-pro, not a newbie (from the little that you wrote about her anyway), I would have to be explicit. It's a business transaction, if I were buying / renting a car I wouldn't hint around about wanting to know if the engine worked. With a chica I might turn into a teasing kind of joke and say something like "we are going to dinner and for dessert I am going to bury my face between your legs" (never had a FB chica that did not respond positively to that suggestion). But of course you have to be you and use your own style, but prostitution is legal in Colombia, it's not like USA, if you want to be guaranteed to get what your paying for, you have be somewhat direct. " I pay women to have sex, are you interested?" Would be what I would ask.[/QUOTE]Will be in Medellin in a couple of days. I like to warm up a few before arriving.

She say she just finished high school and starting college in January.

Has a boyfriend, doesn't smoke or drink.

When I asked to meet, she wanted to know what we do. I said whatever you like. She kept insisting. I said get to know you, maybe go out to eat, I asked what she likes to do for fun. She was non comital. On previous occasions, when the girls asked me the question, for some reason they want me to say exactly what my intentions were. When I said, play in bed, that's when they were down.

Let's see how it goes, there are plenty of fish. LOL.

[QUOTE=Combo;2397894]So I'm finally giving in to the Facebook strategy.[/QUOTE]I think I am finally going to try the fb thing too AND stay somewhere besides downtown. Will probably check that Saint Peter place out in Laureles. The other day my cousin showed me the dating part of the facebook app. Has anyone ever used this in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Combo;2398957]For the second time in a year, Facebook disabled my "fake" account before I was able to use it. I'm not sure what I could have done differently (other than create it on a different computer with different IP address). I used a fake (but real-sounding) name, newly created email, different birthday and city, and no photos that would identify me. They insisted I supply a face pic for my profile, so I went to one of those sites that have images of people that never existed. All for naught.

What are you guys doing to get past Facebook's security when you create a fake account? Or do you just use your regular account?

I never cared in the past as I preferred to meet them personally, but now I feel challenged to get through this.[/QUOTE]I use my regular Facebook page. I don't recommend this for most people, but I have a couple of reasons why it works for me.

1. I'm an open book. Any regular friends and family on my Facebook aren't going to be too surprised if someone points out I'm seeing hookers in Medellin. Most will ask to see some pictures.

2. I'd rather not switch back and forth between accounts.

I do have security set up a bit tighter than normal. It limits the exposure between the two groups of friends. I also don't make a habit of commenting every time a chica puts up a picture. I've set up a friend list that's just the Medellin chicas. Occasionally, if I want to post something just for chicas, I can make it so it's only visible for them.

[QUOTE=Combo;2398957]For the second time in a year, Facebook disabled my "fake" account before I was able to use it. I'm not sure what I could have done differently (other than create it on a different computer with different IP address). I used a fake (but real-sounding) name, newly created email, different birthday and city, and no photos that would identify me. They insisted I supply a face pic for my profile, so I went to one of those sites that have images of people that never existed. All for naught.[/QUOTE]It appears Facebook is doing more scrutiny on new accounts, probably due to the use of artificial intelligence. A few red flags you mentioned: using an image from the Internet, using a city that does not match your IP address, and a newly created email address. I suggest you find a profile picture from some place other than the internet, maybe one of your teachers from your high school annual. Use a city near where you live. If your profile passes all other tests, the new email address will probably pass.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2399084]I think I am finally going to try the fb thing too AND stay somewhere besides downtown.[/QUOTE]Oh boy, Mr. E is going to become a Fay Boo Guy, and those poor Hoe's in El Centro are going to suffer as a result of your indiscretions.

I can only imagine the rant's coming our way based on your Fay Boo experiences, I'll stay tuned to hear about for your follies in Fay Boo Land.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2399126]It appears Facebook is doing more scrutiny on new accounts, probably due to the use of artificial intelligence. A few red flags you mentioned: using an image from the Internet, using a city that does not match your IP address, and a newly created email address. I suggest you find a profile picture from some place other than the internet, maybe one of your teachers from your high school annual. Use a city near where you live. If your profile passes all other tests, the new email address will probably pass.[/QUOTE]Maybe a photo of Alfred E Newman from an old Mad Magazine will pass Facebook's screening criteria.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399135]I can only imagine the rant's coming our way based on your Fay Boo experiences, I'll stay tuned to hear about for your follies in Fay Boo Land.[/QUOTE]Surf the only thing I see right now is that I have to plan my fucking, when I am used to fucking on demand. Right now I go to the casa or SW and walk inside and bang bang bang.

Fooling with fb I will have to anticipate that I may want to fuck about 5 pm, so I better tell some chick to show up at 3 pm so that she gets there by 6. Doesn't seem too convenient from my point of view. Dealing with nonpros it is no big deal, but when you got a pre-arranged paid chick on the clock you have to be ready to perform.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2399169]Surf the only thing I see right now is that I have to plan my fucking, when I am used to fucking on demand. Right now I go to the casa or SW and walk inside and bang bang bang.

Fooling with fb I will have to anticipate that I may want to fuck about 5 pm, so I better tell some chick to show up at 3 pm so that she gets there by 6. Doesn't seem too convenient from my point of view. Dealing with nonpros it is no big deal, but when you got a pre-arranged paid chick on the clock you have to be ready to perform.[/QUOTE]I know a lot of guy's swear buy their FB stable, only use them exclusively, and rightly so. And with a large developed stable of FB performer's who have been vetted, I can see the "fucking on demand" notion being attainable having so many available, and on "speed dial".

Good luck on your foray into the Fay Boo world, and keep us posted on your follies, I'm sure you'll have some tales to tell!

Met up with another traveler and hit Centro in the evening, last Thursday. We both got stuck on the computer, past when I was hoping to check out Centro, but still decided to go. First stop was my new favorite bar in Medellíand, a blue collar fonda (Fonda why Hacienda de la Cascada), which is close to Veracruz and sin Ingles. Ended up chatting with a 60-something year old local (that looked like he was 80) about changes in recent decades, his barrio, his 8 children (one just 4 yo). Priceless cultural experience. Had some great laughs, but I wouldn't recommend this place, or street, for many. You'll need a decent grasp of Spanish, and a little bit of an adventurous side. Anyhow, ended up going to Conejitas, had a beer, and my friend wanted to hit New Life. It was his first time, and I think we were the last customers. Thus, it wasn't the normal selection of girls, but it was ok given the circumstances.

We went out for a meal and then hit Lleras. I have gone all-in on Beer Store being a great first stop in the late evening. There are always a few chicas there, almost all of whom are available, nice servers, and a great view. Yes, there are typically Gringos and punters, but it is what it is. IMO, it's a great spot to watch the tide roll in, get your bearings, and do some people watching. Well, the petite blonde from the night before was messaging me, and sure enough. She comes walking up to Beer Store, solo. Now, normally, this would annoy me and be a huge red flag. She's just so damn cute, though, and it's FREE. So, it's not the same as some chick trying to mark her territory, with territory being synonymous with money. We hang for awhile, drinking and chatting with some neighbors at the table next to us. At the end of the night, I'm gassed, and just want to go back to the apartment. We had a flight to Cartagena the next day, and I still needed to pack. Not to mention, I had averaged about 3. 5-4 hours of sleep the previous few nights. Of course, I managed to squeeze in some time for the chica, before knocking out.

Fast forward, back from a great 4-day stay in Cartagena. Freebie after a boat trip + Clock Tower girl on the beach + wristband-wearing chica in my building elevator, all made for an interesting final 12 hours to the trip. Quick flight back to MDE, and wanted to relax. Went to the gym, then ordered Rappi and watched a terribly-long The Irishman. I didn't have the energy or patience for that movie, last night. A local non-pro was going to come over, but she wasn't feeling well and that was perfect for me. I needed to re-charge. Then. Petite blonde starts messaging. I tell her I'm just taking it easy and will be waking up early. She says that sounds good, and she can't believe I haven't invited her over. So, I cave, of course. I tell her no sexo. I wake up feeling refreshed, aside from a newly-cracked cell phone screen (nightstand ghost incident), and receive a morning blowjob. She told me she wants to grab a condom and go in the shower, because she's getting over her period. I declined, and went with what's behind door number 2. She didn't mention money, bought herself and Uber, again (she uses another app, green app background). Thus, the Title. I think I have a girlfriend.

I have a little less than 2 weeks before I leave. The non-pro will probably come over tonight. I am on the fence about what to do with this petite 19 yo blonde that is cute, fun, caring, helps around the apartment, and doesn't ask for anything but spending time with her. I could never ever actually date a girl that I met walking around Lleras, even if she might be a part-timer, new to the game, etc etc etc. However, it is working quite nicely, for me. So much so that I should probably pump the breaks, so this girl isn't messaging me for money in 3 weeks. I'm sure some of you vets have had similar experiences, and given what I have disclosed, I'd love to hear any pros / cons from others' personal experience or opinion.

I might do a Cartagena write-up, but if anyone has questions in the meantime, you can PM me.

As far as some recent FB talk, I remember on one occasion I was traveling in Europe and got blocked from signing into my fake FB. It was a nightmare. I was heading to MDE in a week, and entered a manic-panic mode. Eventually, I somehow got it figured out, but only after a few days in MDE. I would recommend going into your security settings, and linking it to an email / phone that you have access to, even if it is not your primary. Also, there is an authentication process where you can select 5 FB friends to be your life line. In the event of a lock-out, you send them a link, and they give you a code number back. However, you cannot do this via your primary FB account, I don't think. I believe that FB becomes aware of the link being sent, and cancels it. Thus, you need to have the cell phone numbers and request it via text / WhatsApp. I recommend carefully choosing your 5 lifelines, even considering adding a couple of your best buddies, which can possibly open pandora's box, as far as appearing on suggested friends, and the like. I too have had a new FB account blocked, and I think some other members correctly identified the possible problems with that.

I agree with Mr. E about the whole FB cita thing. You put yourself at the mercy of 1) a FB chica, and 2) Colombian time. It can eat up your whole day, if you have a girl cancel last minute and need to find a replacement. I was all over FB my first few trips, but now I have been tending to take my hunting and gathering offline.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2399169]Surf the only thing I see right now is that I have to plan my fucking, when I am used to fucking on demand. Right now I go to the casa or SW and walk inside and bang bang bang.

Fooling with fb I will have to anticipate that I may want to fuck about 5 pm, so I better tell some chick to show up at 3 pm so that she gets there by 6. Doesn't seem too convenient from my point of view. Dealing with nonpros it is no big deal, but when you got a pre-arranged paid chick on the clock you have to be ready to perform.[/QUOTE]It all depends on how you use it. For me, I know that I have time to kill in the evening. After 7 or 8 I won't be walking around El Centro and the El Centro strip club rooms are usually a turn off for me. After dinner is open time. I can fill it by hitting a few bars, checking out a movie, or just relaxing in my room. Or I can fill it doing one or more of the above with a Facebook girl.

If she's someone I know, I can just set a time and place and usually she'll be there. If she's someone new, I will tell her where I'll be if she wants to see me. Then I go on with my plans. Most show up reasonably close to the right time.

If I'm getting the run-around from her, then I'll cut her off and decide whether it's worth looking for a plan be.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2399205]As far as some recent FB talk, I remember on one occasion I was traveling in Europe and got blocked from signing into my fake FB. It was a nightmare. I was heading to MDE in a week, and entered a manic-panic mode. Eventually, I somehow got it figured out, but only after a few days in MDE. I would recommend going into your security settings, and linking it to an email / phone that you have access to, even if it is not your primary. Also, there is an authentication process where you can select 5 FB friends to be your life line. In the event of a lock-out, you send them a link, and they give you a code number back. However, you cannot do this via your primary FB account, I don't think. I believe that FB becomes aware of the link being sent, and cancels it. Thus, you need to have the cell phone numbers and request it via text / WhatsApp. I recommend carefully choosing your 5 lifelines, even considering adding a couple of your best buddies, which can possibly open pandora's box, as far as appearing on suggested friends, and the like. I too have had a new FB account blocked, and I think some other members correctly identified the possible problems with that.Cheers.[/QUOTE]This whole Fay Boo system almost sounds like a game show. If what you say is correct, it seems as though it can be a mine field to navigate thru, and having "life lines" to authenticate you when you get blocked. I guess for those technically challenged, like myself, is another reason I've never used it. I know it's a godsend for others, and justly so for those who have a large stable of girls and know how to manage the FB system "blindfolded" when problems arise like the one you mentioned.

However, what about a guy who only has FB friends that are Chicas, and has to use one of them as their "life lines" when they get blocked. Sounds like somewhat of a potential minefield as you mentioned, but I'm sure somebody has this all figured out.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2399063]Being that it takes time to work Facebook and your trip was only about a week, does that mean you started chatting with girls on Facebook before you arrived?[/QUOTE]You do not have to start chatting before you arrive, if she is a prepago than it is like a business, you would not start chatting with hardware store owner before you intend to buy a wrench. Just send her a message while you are in Medellin saying you want to set up a cita, explain your expectations and name your price. Start at 150 k plus taxi one way. On the other hand if you do chat in advance than you are more likely to get a receptive response when you arrive, but still should not start chatting until about a week or two before you plan on arriving. Some of these chicas will try to hit you up for money before you have even met them, maybe they are seriously hard up for cash or maybe they are just scammers, I have a ready answer anytime they ask me to send money, if you think you have no use whatsoever for the chica, then you can just block her. Sometimes instead of hitting "block" I just hit "ignore messages" so they do not know that I blocked them but will never get a signal that I have seen their message. I keep them around because my strategy is to add as many chicas in Medellin area as possible because I want to find those hidden gems, and the more friends in my list the more likely I am to find them.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399102]I use my regular Facebook page. I don't recommend this for most people, but I have a couple of reasons why it works for me.

1. I'm an open book. Any regular friends and family on my Facebook aren't going to be too surprised if someone points out I'm seeing hookers in Medellin. Most will ask to see some pictures.

2. I'd rather not switch back and forth between accounts.

I do have security set up a bit tighter than normal. It limits the exposure between the two groups of friends. I also don't make a habit of commenting every time a chica puts up a picture. I've set up a friend list that's just the Medellin chicas. Occasionally, if I want to post something just for chicas, I can make it so it's only visible for them.[/QUOTE]I think I might just try to use my regular FB account. I've done that before with a select few chicas from MDE with no problems. I'm not a big user of Facebook anyway. If I can make certain communications only visible to the chicas, that should be sufficient.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399231] I might do a Cartagena write-up, but if anyone has questions in the meantime, you can PM me.[/QUOTE]Any insight on Cartagena would be greatly appreciated. Paying or university game both good!

[QUOTE=Combo;2399270]I think I might just try to use my regular FB account. I've done that before with a select few chicas from MDE with no problems. I'm not a big user of Facebook anyway. If I can make certain communications only visible to the chicas, that should be sufficient.[/QUOTE]I used my real FB as well despite what many say on the forum. I don't have any co workers on my fb and my family knows what's up with me. Mr E, depends on how motivated they are, I had 4 dates with FB girls and they all arrived on time more or less. Even one arrived earlier than set date. Fine little 19 year old thing. Medellin treated me right, I made a few missteps but that's on me. I'll def be back ASAP.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399231]This whole Fay Boo system almost sounds like a game show. If what you say is correct, it seems as though it can be a mine field to navigate thru, and having "life lines" to authenticate you when you get blocked. I guess for those technically challenged, like myself, is another reason I've never used it. I know it's a godsend for others, and justly so for those who have a large stable of girls and know how to manage the FB system "blindfolded" when problems arise like the one you mentioned.

However, what about a guy who only has FB friends that are Chicas, and has to use one of them as their "life lines" when they get blocked. Sounds like somewhat of a potential minefield as you mentioned, but I'm sure somebody has this all figured out.[/QUOTE]Not at all, send them a friend request, or send them a message if they answer it's all good. Ask them for their WhatsApp and boom you on. I had a couple I would chat with when I was bored I like to do it to see if they have some personality a bit Of chemistry not treat me like a total ATM LOL.

Yes, I always chat with girls in advance to get a feel for who I want to see. I usually end up with more options than I can use, but given how things work with theses girls, better to have too many options.

I should also remind that I visit Colombia once a month. Generally between 4 and 10 days, depending on which month and my work schedule.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2399063]Being that it takes time to work Facebook and your trip was only about a week, does that mean you started chatting with girls on Facebook before you arrived?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2399305]Yes, I always chat with girls in advance to get a feel for who I want to see. I usually end up with more options than I can use, but given how things work with theses girls, better to have too many options.

I should also remind that I visit Colombia once a month. Generally between 4 and 10 days, depending on which month and my work schedule.[/QUOTE]Everyone should consider their own situation. You're in Medellin every month. It makes sense to develop a network of girls. Facebook is a good option because you can find new girls before each trip and keep up to date with old girls.

For someone who lives there full time, Facebook may eventually be replaced by the women they're meeting every day, while they shop and go about their lives.

For other regular visitors, they've already developed other sources and Facebook isn't any use to them.

For infrequent, regular visitors, Facebook may or may not be something worth messing with.

For the 1 time 3-5 day visitor, there's no need to bother with it. There are plenty of other options which require less time and less work.

I'm now a once a year visitor. Facebook helps keep me connected to the city. It also keeps me aware of potential issues. For example, before my last trip, one new girl was hitting me hard to see her. She got too aggressive and I backed away. A few days before my trip she announces she's pregnant. Would she have tried to pin that on me if I hadn't cut her out? Other girls, I can see what's going on with them.

And if nothing else, I see about 50 underwear or bikini pics every day.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2398972][URL]https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante[/URL]

Be nice fellas she is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]I tried to use this link you provided to check this out. Couldn't find her. I don't have bitcoin, so I can't click on the link. Any other name on Facebook?

Also, how do you guys find MDE contacts on FB? I haven't used my acct in ages! Hahaha. I just updated my profile pic showing the rock in Penol. All those stairs!

Any FB or Fay Boo tips you guys can provide would be awesome.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2398972][URL]https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante[/URL]

Be nice fellas she is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]I had a pop up blocker on. I found the site. I saw it earlier. Is she active? I thought it was a fake site.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2399084]I think I am finally going to try the fb thing too AND stay somewhere besides downtown. Will probably check that Saint Peter place out in Laureles. The other day my cousin showed me the dating part of the facebook app. Has anyone ever used this in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I've heard a lot of great things about the AirBB St Peter in Laureles. In fact, that place is on my list when I go next year. I was considering 2 night at the Mansion, then my final 6 nights at St Peter. Depending on how many contacts I can find on FB, I've read where its pretty easy to load up on chica contacts at the Mansion? Is that place a giant fuk factory? Hahahaha.

I totally agree with your post. I also think we are probably referring to the same FB girl. She is due in February if it is the same one?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399332]Everyone should consider their own situation. You're in Medellin every month. It makes sense to develop a network of girls. Facebook is a good option because you can find new girls before each trip and keep up to date with old girls.

For someone who lives there full time, Facebook may eventually be replaced by the women they're meeting every day, while they shop and go about their lives.

For other regular visitors, they've already developed other sources and Facebook isn't any use to them.

For infrequent, regular visitors, Facebook may or may not be something worth messing with.

For the 1 time 3-5 day visitor, there's no need to bother with it. There are plenty of other options which require less time and less work.

I'm now a once a year visitor. Facebook helps keep me connected to the city. It also keeps me aware of potential issues. For example, before my last trip, one new girl was hitting me hard to see her. She got too aggressive and I backed away. A few days before my trip she announces she's pregnant. Would she have tried to pin that on me if I hadn't cut her out? Other girls, I can see what's going on with them.

And if nothing else, I see about 50 underwear or bikini pics every day.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2399346]I had a pop up blocker on. I found the site. I saw it earlier. Is she active? I thought it was a fake site.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure it's active I saw her post some of the lovely photos I took of her in Guatapé . My slow ass finally learned how to work the portrait feature on iPhone camera LOL.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2399344]I tried to use this link you provided to check this out. Couldn't find her. I don't have bitcoin, so I can't click on the link. Any other name on Facebook?

Also, how do you guys find MDE contacts on FB? I haven't used my acct in ages! Hahaha. I just updated my profile pic showing the rock in Penol. All those stairs!

Any FB or Fay Boo tips you guys can provide would be awesome.[/QUOTE]Here is a good one to start with, mine her friends list mongers and girls.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/ManuRpoHenao[/URL]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2398972][URL]https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante[/URL]

Be nice fellas she is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]I used her services, both as a tour guide and a chica in March. Super sweet girl and also speaks pretty good english!

Not to mention an incredible pair of natural boobs!

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2399589]I used her services, both as a tour guide and a chica in March. Super sweet girl and also speaks pretty good english!

Not to mention an incredible pair of natural boobs![/QUOTE]Yes sir! Your know her well.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.serna.21[/URL]

This forum always pumps me up to grab my nuts and go for it, this one has 13,000 followers and I had her naked in my hot tub. Like Nike just do it. I write this for any one that has doubts , learn Spanish just go for yours . PSsuave if you stay at mansion grab all the numbers of all the girls you may wanna see . Never hurts to make “friends “ and have contacts . Tell em you had a date if you not decided and you may wanna hit me later , they will be more than happy to give you the WhatsApp

When I thought about Medellín I read post from Jbee, pollo negro, Mr E and got inspired. I give back to the forum because each one teach one. With that being said, my previous post says let's your nuts hang and go for it. YOU go for it, every monger knows YMMV your experience may not be mine and vice versa. I only made that last post for those who may get daunted bcuz they see a FB chica has 2, 3, or 10 thousand followers. If you like her go for it.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399670][URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.serna.21[/URL]

This forum always pumps me up to grab my nuts and go for it, this one has 13,000 followers and I had her naked in my hot tub. Like Nike just do it. I write this for any one that has doubts , learn Spanish just go for yours . PSsuave if you stay at mansion grab all the numbers of all the girls you may wanna see . Never hurts to make friends and have contacts . Tell em you had a date if you not decided and you may wanna hit me later , they will be more than happy to give you the WhatsApp[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the FB links. I will be going to MDE for 8 glorious nights in Sept. I'm starting to make contacts now, hope to have plenty when I land. This will be my second trip, only banged 6 chicas last time, mostly through mileroticos and Loutron. Stayed in Poblado last time, will be in Laureles in Sept. This next trip will have a different approach. Jejejeje.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399670][URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.serna.21[/URL]

This forum always pumps me up to grab my nuts and go for it, this one has 13,000 followers and I had her naked in my hot tub. Like Nike just do it. I write this for any one that has doubts , learn Spanish just go for yours . PSsuave if you stay at mansion grab all the numbers of all the girls you may wanna see . Never hurts to make friends and have contacts . Tell em you had a date if you not decided and you may wanna hit me later , they will be more than happy to give you the WhatsApp[/QUOTE]It took me a little to realize that just because a chica has X number of friends or followers does not mean that she is unreachable or even overpriced. Fay Boo land is online virtual world and 5000 friends or 10000 followers does not put any money in these chicas pockets, what is going on in their real daily lives is that they still have to work for money and they still need customers to work and supply and demand is affected by the fact that at any given time there are only so many Gringos in Medellin, and since many of them have already had the chicas with 5000 friends, they are ready to move on to the next chica anyway and try something new. If I combined the cute thick chicas and the flacas that I have on my FB list it would probably be over 300 chicas and I have only been at this a relatively short time, there is just more chicas than Gringos and so it is a buyers market. The real world is that FB has created a situation where thousands of people can admire these chicas from all over the world but it is only the guy on the ground in Mellelin that can actually put some money in their pocket.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399670][URL]https://www.facebook.com/estefania.serna.21[/URL]
This forum always pumps me up to grab my nuts and go for it, this one has 13,000 followers and I had her naked in my hot tub. p[/QUOTE]With so many followers, I wonder how many of those followers dicks she's had in her mouth, perhaps at least hundred's if not more, and your's wasn't the first, nor will it be the last for sure. Nothing like the Fay Boo World.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399810]With so many followers, I wonder how many of those followers dicks she's had in her mouth, perhaps at least hundred's if not more, and your's wasn't the first, nor will it be the last for sure. Nothing like the Fay Boo World.[/QUOTE]LOL. As I wrote before I post to encourage people who want to go to go and know they can have who they want .Not for the senior member who has been 10 times . For the guy who is unsure That's not me bragging. Clearly she sucks tons of dicks. Don't be foolish man and waste your writing foolish shit. I put no chick on a pedestal if I did I'the have a girlfriend and not be mongering. Stop being salty, this supposed to be a league of gentleman. Like I said before its a few guys on the forum who post made me switch gears and go to MDE . Just want to encourage like they encouraged me

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399810]With so many followers, I wonder how many of those followers dicks she's had in her mouth, perhaps at least hundred's if not more, and your's wasn't the first, nor will it be the last for sure. Nothing like the Fay Boo World.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet.

If you just look at the surface, there are only about 30 guys on the Medellin board here at ISG. That's about how many regularly post. The actual number is probably close to 3,000.99% never do anything.

Getting followers on social media is easy. It's even easier if you're an attractive woman who likes posting pictures in a bikini. My former roommate, the webcam model, has over 100,000 followers of her webcam. Total number of dicks she's handled in her life? Probably about 10, although that may be high. Of those 100,000 followers, less than 20 regularly spend money on her and she's making about $100 k US a year.

A Facebook girl, living with her family in an estrato 2 barrio can be living like a queen on 5 customers a week. That's without considering the benefits:

1. Read the forum. A lot of guys bring gifts, perfume, lingerie, sex toys. Some guys are taking the girls shopping, everything from cheap clothes to expensive electronics.

2. A lot of guys will take the girls opening price. In El Centro that might be 50 k. On Facebook it's 300-500 k. 50 k tips plus 20-50 k for taxis aren't uncommon.

3. A few guys will take the girls on trips. My list of Facebook girls includes trips, in the past year, to USA, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany and Australia.

4. Some guys, even though they'll never go to Colombia, will buy pictures and videos from the girls, or just send money whenever they ask. Not all Western Union novios are world travelers.

5. Some guys even marry their favorite Facebook girl.

You don't have to use Facebook, or like it. I just don't understand your constant attacks about it. Look at the advantages. If the 1,000 or so guys who are using Facebook in Medellin suddenly took their money to El Centro, you'd be lucky to find any woman under 40 who would take less than 100 k for a quick 30 minute session. They would all be holding out for the guys who are dropping 500 k.

Let it go. Facebook isn't hurting you.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399900]LOL. As I wrote before I post to encourage people who want to go to go and know they can have who they want .Not for the senior member who has been 10 times . For the guy who is unsure That's not me bragging. Clearly she sucks tons of dicks. Don't be foolish man and waste your writing foolish shit. I put no chick on a pedestal if I did I'the have a girlfriend and not be mongering. Stop being salty, this supposed to be a league of gentleman. Like I said before its a few guys on the forum who post made me switch gears and go to MDE . Just want to encourage like they encouraged me[/QUOTE]I think after you get a few more posts under your belt, and have been on this Site for a while, you might appreciate a little "foolish" shit at times.

If your were insulted by my post, my apologies, however I'm free to write whatever I want just like you, however I wouldn't take everything you read here "so seriously". Most of the members on this board have pretty thick skin, and if my post bothered you, again my apologies, but responses to some posts can be brutal, so I'm giving you a "heads up" to potential future responses to your posts.

At the end of the day though, the take away from your post is, that you had a great time with the Chica in your hot tub, nothing else matters, regardless of how many dicks she has sucked.

So just take what I wrote with a "grain of salt".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399810]With so many followers, I wonder how many of those followers dicks she's had in her mouth, perhaps at least hundred's if not more, and your's wasn't the first, nor will it be the last for sure. Nothing like the Fay Boo World.[/QUOTE]Are you trying to say that the chicas you chase in el centro have had LESS dicks in their mouths than the busy FB chicas? Surely you jest.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399919]I think after you get a few more posts under your belt, and have been on this Site for a while, you might appreciate a little "foolish" shit at times.

If your were insulted by my post, my apologies, however I'm free to write whatever I want just like you, however I wouldn't take everything you read here "so seriously". Most of the members on this board have pretty thick skin, and if my post bothered you, again my apologies, but responses to some posts can be brutal, so I'm giving you a "heads up" to potential future responses to your posts.

At the end of the day though, the take away from your post is, that you had a great time with the Chica in your hot tub, nothing else matters, regardless of how many dicks she has sucked.

So just take what I wrote with a "grain of salt".[/QUOTE]I only responded bcuz I was pretty clear in my post why I posted that pic for guys who are undecided, want to know if the girl has hella followers can they contact as I stated. Your comment didn't bother me I just think that you a sucka, look what you wrote. Mine dick wasn't the first or the last she will suck LOL sounds like shots to me. I do plenty mongering I don't need 5000 post nor prove myself to anyone. It was my first time in MDE and had a blast and for the slow folks I'm just showing love to inspire like the few members I named among others inspired me to make that move. Salty10000.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2399953]Are you trying to say that the chicas you chase in el centro have had LESS dicks in their mouths than the busy FB chicas? Surely you jest.[/QUOTE]I never mentioned anything in my post about the Chicas in El Centro, or was trying to imply that the El Centro Chicas have LESS dicks in their mouths than the FB Chicas.

With that being said, I am confident, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the El Centro Chicas take more, not less, dicks in their mouths than their Fay Boo sisters. And I'm not jesting.

Additionally, I could rattle off a list of other things the EL Centro Chicas do more of, than their Fay Boo sisters, but will stay on topic.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399918]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet.

If you just look at the surface, there are only about 30 guys on the Medellin board here at ISG. That's about how many regularly post. The actual number is probably close to 3,000.99% never do anything.

Getting followers on social media is easy. It's even easier if you're an attractive woman who likes posting pictures in a bikini. My former roommate, the webcam model, has over 100,000 followers of her webcam. Total number of dicks she's handled in her life? Probably about 10, although that may be high. Of those 100,000 followers, less than 20 regularly spend money on her and she's making about $100 k US a year.

A Facebook girl, living with her family in an estrato 2 barrio can be living like a queen on 5 customers a week. That's without considering the benefits:

1. Read the forum. A lot of guys bring gifts, perfume, lingerie, sex toys. Some guys are taking the girls shopping, everything from cheap clothes to expensive electronics.

2. A lot of guys will take the girls opening price. In El Centro that might be 50 k. On Facebook it's 300-500 k. 50 k tips plus 20-50 k for taxis aren't uncommon.

3. A few guys will take the girls on trips. My list of Facebook girls includes trips, in the past year, to USA, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany and Australia.

4. Some guys, even though they'll never go to Colombia, will buy pictures and videos from the girls, or just send money whenever they ask. Not all Western Union novios are world travelers.

5. Some guys even marry their favorite Facebook girl.

You don't have to use Facebook, or like it. I just don't understand your constant attacks about it. Look at the advantages. If the 1,000 or so guys who are using Facebook in Medellin suddenly took their money to El Centro, you'd be lucky to find any woman under 40 who would take less than 100 k for a quick 30 minute session. They would all be holding out for the guys who are dropping 500 k.

Let it go. Facebook isn't hurting you.[/QUOTE]I like your math my guy, my calculations go something like that as well. Plus she was pretty reached out because I wanted to fuck and it worked out in my favor. And surprisingly I didn't wonder one time had she sucked a dick earlier while I was pulling her hair digging her out LOL. Be careful though my guy the post counter might ridicule you bcuz you don't have enough experience to speak LOL.

https://www.facebook.com/natalia.aguilarlopez.5 thanks for worrying about me , this one had less followers , safer choice Salty10000?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399918]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.[/QUOTE]I don't recall mentioning anything in my post about the El Centro street walkers, regardless, I'm not attacking the users of Fay Boo, but am amused by it's idiosyncrasy's,such as having to have "lifelines" etc. And all the other things you have to go through to manage a stable of Fay Boo Chicas.

As far as your list of advantages / benefits etc, that's all logical, however, for the hard core "street rats", that's not how they roll, and your justifications don't matter, to them, or to me.

I have never dished another member for being a Fay Boo guy, except I did tease Mr. E. about trying the Fay Boo Chicas.

For the record, as I have said in other posts, and I will say it again, for a guy with a long list of "vetted Fay Boo Chicas" that cannot be beat hands down.

However as I mentioned, everybody rolls different, and there is nothing wrong with other members posting their thoughts and observations regarding what others have posted as they roll.

And in theory, if there wasn't this interaction, what would be the point of having a site like this.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399977]I don't recall mentioning anything in my post about the El Centro street walkers, regardless, I'm not attacking the users of Fay Boo, but am amused by it's idiosyncrasy's,such as having to have "lifelines" etc. And all the other things you have to go through to manage a stable of Fay Boo Chicas.

As far as your list of advantages / benefits etc, that's all logical, however, for the hard core "street rats", that's not how they roll, and your justifications don't matter, to them, or to me.

I have never dished another member for being a Fay Boo guy, except I did tease Mr. E. about trying the Fay Boo Chicas.

For the record, as I have said in other posts, and I will say it again, for a guy with a long list of "vetted Fay Boo Chicas" that cannot be beat hands down.

However as I mentioned, everybody rolls different, and there is nothing wrong with other members posting their thoughts and observations regarding what others have posted as they roll.

And in theory, if there wasn't this interaction, what would be the point of having a site like this.[/QUOTE]The interaction is why I'm still here.

As we've both said, everyone rolls their own way. There's good and bad girls, whether you're getting them off the street or off the internet. We're successful mongers because we've learned how to spot the problems before our pants are off. If I was picking off the street, instead of just walking through and enjoying the atmosphere, I'd want you, Wolf662 or PolloNegro at my side pointing out the things I might not notice, even though we might bicker from time to time.

There aren't really any hoops to jump through with Facebook. However, there is a learning curve. That can be a problem for many. If you mess up in Veracruz, as a rookie, and find yourself in a room with a tranny, you can just pay and walk away and nobody knows anything. If you make a mistake starting out on Facebook, your brother-in-law, the one who hates you, knows exactly what you're doing in Medellin.

I'm a rare case where it doesn't matter. If one of my ultra-religious relatives asks me "do you visit prostitutes in Colombia?" I answer "yes. I also fuck them. Sometimes, they'll bring along a friend and I'll fuck both of them. Do you want to see the pictures?

My family learned long ago not to ask questions they don't want to hear the answer to. My boss just asks to see the pictures and wants to know if he can come along.

I will correct you on one thing. The best is to have a fully vetted stable of girls, no matter where they come from. Whether you get them from the street or from La Isla. When you've got 5-10 solid options every time you're looking, everything goes better.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399973]https://www.facebook.com/natalia.aguilarlopez.5 thanks for worrying about me , this one had less followers , safer choice Salty10000?[/QUOTE]I appreciate any contacts you throw out there! Just like you previously said. I will friend request or message them, see if they respond. One already did. Now I'm hoping to get to know her friends! Jajaja.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399900]LOL. As I wrote before I post to encourage people who want to go to go and know they can have who they want .Not for the senior member who has been 10 times . For the guy who is unsure That's not me bragging. Clearly she sucks tons of dicks. Don't be foolish man and waste your writing foolish shit. I put no chick on a pedestal if I did I'the have a girlfriend and not be mongering. Stop being salty, this supposed to be a league of gentleman. Like I said before its a few guys on the forum who post made me switch gears and go to MDE . Just want to encourage like they encouraged me[/QUOTE]Consider me encouraged BMo814. While I'm not going to base my next year's trip only of Fay boo (Thanks surfer. Love that! Jajaja) chicas, it's going to be nice to get to know some of these ladies. Seeing new bikini photos added to their FB page doesn't suck either.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2399977]I don't recall mentioning anything in my post about the El Centro street walkers, regardless, I'm not attacking the users of Fay Boo, but am amused by it's idiosyncrasy's,such as having to have "lifelines" etc. And all the other things you have to go through to manage a stable of Fay Boo Chicas.

As far as your list of advantages / benefits etc, that's all logical, however, for the hard core "street rats", that's not how they roll, and your justifications don't matter, to them, or to me.

I have never dished another member for being a Fay Boo guy, except I did tease Mr. E. about trying the Fay Boo Chicas.

For the record, as I have said in other posts, and I will say it again, for a guy with a long list of "vetted Fay Boo Chicas" that cannot be beat hands down.

However as I mentioned, everybody rolls different, and there is nothing wrong with other members posting their thoughts and observations regarding what others have posted as they roll.

And in theory, if there wasn't this interaction, what would be the point of having a site like this.[/QUOTE]What's a lifeline? You the only one I seen mention that. I think most of us that use fb open the app see a photo we like, send a Message, sort exchange of messages then fuck them. Very good option if you feel like just sitting at the pad drinking Ron Medellíand, until you get a message saying she is outside, then you fuck them and go back to what you were doing. That's not appealing to you?

I really wish some of you guys would start a Medellin Facebook thread on here because some of us just aren't interested. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets) with 5000 followers, not interested in the ridiculous prices they charge (hope this doesn't start messing up the prices in Medellin for the rest of us), not interested in spending hours searching through friends of friends for hours a day building lists (like a regular poster says he does) and firing off random messages, and I'm certainly not interested in pages of this thread just being about arguments about Facebook chicas! So, please start a Facebook thread, that scene is not the be all and end all.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399996]What's a lifeline? You the only one I seen mention that[/QUOTE]Scroll back a few pages and you will see the mention of lifeline.

After being away for a week to celebrate Thanksgiving in the States, I returned yesterday to Medellin, and went to ground zero (Carrea / Calle 52) Friday at 5 PM looking for one of my favorites. I didn't immediately find her, so I made the rounds, and being gone for only one week, I saw at least two dozen girls I had never seen before in the walkway between the Museum and the Church, most were Venezuelans, and there were some cute tall ones to boot.

During the past six weeks, I have seen a steady increase in girls (primarily Venezuelans) working the Botero area, and have also noticed an increase in the aggressiveness of the girls (stare's / looks / smiles, etc.). They are obviously hurting as supply has outweighed demand. I know a lot of the Colombians and the Venezuelans are trying to make as much as they can prior to the 24th, with a lot them leaving town to be with their families. So if your in town, and into SW's, El Centro can't be beat during the next few weeks.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2399996]What's a lifeline? You the only one I seen mention that. I think most of us that use fb open the app see a photo we like, send a Message, sort exchange of messages then fuck them. Very good option if you feel like just sitting at the pad drinking Ron Medelland, until you get a message saying she is outside, then you fuck them and go back to what you were doing. That's not appealing to you?[/QUOTE]See post # 33141 for what one FB guy went thru when he got blocked by FB.

I think, believe it or not, that we are very much alike, in that what you have described, is very appealing to me.

The only difference though is in how we prefer to go about it. Does that make sense?

If you have read this board long enough (and it appears you have based on number of posts), you know that the conversation ebbs and flows. Right now, there is a lot of talk about FB. But there are other times that centro and streetwalkers are discussed ad nauseum. Sometimes the focus is on casas. And sometimes the posts have nothing to do with chicas, but with places to stay, things to do, or places to eat. It's the way it is.

And while you might not be interested in flacas, I am. We all have different tastes and I do not mind hearing guys talk about chicas with big asses or big fake tits, etc. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2399997]I really wish some of you guys would start a Medellin Facebook thread on here because some of us just aren't interested. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets) with 5000 followers, not interested in the ridiculous prices they charge (hope this doesn't start messing up the prices in Medellin for the rest of us), not interested in spending hours searching through friends of friends for hours a day building lists (like a regular poster says he does) and firing off random messages, and I'm certainly not interested in pages of this thread just being about arguments about Facebook chicas! So, please start a Facebook thread, that scene is not the be all and end all.[/QUOTE]

You dudes are funny. What's the point of mongering if you don't try different shapes and sizes. That was a couple flacas I smashed on the trip, she wasn't the flyest I admittedly was disappointed, decent fuck, nice pair of fake boobs but I wouldn't have known without trying. Might have been the fuck queen of the world got to roll the dice sometime I smashed a couple thick ones, couple skinny ones, small ones, tall ones. Quit being so judgmental take what you want, need from the reports and keep scrolling. Won't cost you anything pay it no mind. Matter of fact when I posted the first link, few appreciated one member even said she had a nice natural rack and used her service. 2nd link, 2 members immediately messaged me asking about her. Somebody likes flacas. Besides your best Fox News host impersonation (hollering about nothing) what's your contribution for the board? Give us a link to something you like so we can go fuck her too. And it doesn’t have to be FB , a casa girl , a girl at a massage parlor something other than your criticism .

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2399997]. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets) [/QUOTE]This is the Medellin thread, and FB chicas are in Medellin. I do not mind you talking about the guys who brag about their FB chicas (tongue in cheek), but let us at least be fair to the FB scene and set aside these ugly rumors that they all have rickets. I feel that it is only proper that you be properly educated. Just because so many of the chicas that these guys post photos of are flacas, does not mean that all the the chicas on FB are flacas. On the contrary, a huge percentage of these chicas are sufficiently thick. In fact many are also bonafide members of the If You Can See It From The Front Wait Til You See It From The Back Fan Club.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2399997]I really wish some of you guys would start a Medellin Facebook thread on here because some of us just aren't interested. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets) with 5000 followers, not interested in the ridiculous prices they charge (hope this doesn't start messing up the prices in Medellin for the rest of us), not interested in spending hours searching through friends of friends for hours a day building lists (like a regular poster says he does) and firing off random messages, and I'm certainly not interested in pages of this thread just being about arguments about Facebook chicas! So, please start a Facebook thread, that scene is not the be all and end all.[/QUOTE]While I agree with you that Fay Boo gets way overblown, you can't deny that it is a huge part of the Medellin (and most of the world) mongering scene. I just view FB as a "different" way to meet chicas other than the Mansion, el Centro, Lleras, etc. Why not have more than 5 options? 10? I personally don't want to beat FB to death on this thread, but I do appreciate the tips / suggestions from those that have experience with it. Whatever is going to facilitate my future fucking of beautiful paisas, I'm all in!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2399997]I really wish some of you guys would start a Medellin Facebook thread on here because some of us just aren't interested. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets) with 5000 followers, not interested in the ridiculous prices they charge (hope this doesn't start messing up the prices in Medellin for the rest of us), not interested in spending hours searching through friends of friends for hours a day building lists (like a regular poster says he does) and firing off random messages, and I'm certainly not interested in pages of this thread just being about arguments about Facebook chicas! So, please start a Facebook thread, that scene is not the be all and end all.[/QUOTE]I'm not a facebook fan either but I don't mind looking at pics from it or Mojo's fine copy and paste here in the forum. I'm a newbie to Medellin and Colombia (veteran of DR and PI) but I must say I have had a little success with Colombiana Cupid. Had five dates from CC in eight days when I was there in November. All were slightly chubby (they hid it well in their photos) but so am I so I don't care about that. It's the big tits I like, man. And the passion! One of the five was an absolute fucking world class porn star who loved being filmed with splooge all over her face, smiling, moaning and licking her lips. Cute, too. Naturally I will see her again (in May). Only 23, too. Had a kid but her pussy was unbelievably tight. Sorry, guys, no referrals on this one but I'm sure there are many more out there. The other thing I want to say to other newbies is do not stay at the better hotels in Medellin because the will charge you an extra 30-60-90 dollars US for every chick you bring in after the first one. And that's after you paid for two people. It's extortion, man! Better to apartment hunt mis amigos. Salud!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2400052]This is the Medellin thread, and FB chicas are in Medellin. I do not mind you talking about the guys who brag about their FB chicas (tongue in cheek), but let us at least be fair to the FB scene and set aside these ugly rumors that they all have rickets. I feel that it is only proper that you be properly educated. Just because so many of the chicas that these guys post photos of are flacas, does not mean that all the the chicas on FB are flacas. On the contrary, a huge percentage of these chicas are sufficiently thick. In fact many are also bonafide members of the If You Can See It From The Front Wait Til You See It From The Back Fan Club.[/QUOTE]You mention this as being the Medellin thread, and in looking at the "entire group" of threads for Colombia, there is a separate "Escort Classified Section".

I believe the group of threads for Colombia has not changed in a long time, or ever. And in looking at the Escort Classified Section, it doesn't look like it's used much, and here in MDE, I look at the FB scene, as kind of an Escort Service, as it is widely used here.

As one poster mentioned, post's gyrate from theme to theme, and given the increased popularity of the Fay Boo scene, which has increased significantly over the years, I believe it warrants it's own thread in Medellin at this time. Than the non-FB guys wouldn't have to wade thru all the Fay Boo chatter commingled with all the other things covered in the Medellin thread, and for the Fay Boo guys, they would have a dedicated thread to share there experiences with the FB Chicas, and they too, wouldn't have to go thru a bunch of chatter they might not be interested in.

Does this make sense to anyone else, as Medellin / Colombia has changed significantly for mongering over the years going primarily the way of the Internet, but the threads have not.

I don't understand this back and forth as to which is better.

Lets face it the guys who go for the Centro street walkers are the bottom feeders. Those who session the casa and club babes are a notch above the street walker predators. Though I have never done it I believe the guys who bang escorts and facebook girls are the upper level mongers who prefer to copulate in a more secure environment. I am a casa bloke myself and have enjoyed that aspect of our hobby ever since massage parlors were introduced into NYC in the 70's. I wish those who practise the other aspects of our hobby to continue having a great time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2400173]I don't understand this back and forth as to which is better.

Lets face it the guys who go for the Centro street walkers are the bottom feeders. Those who session the casa and club babes are a notch above the street walker predators. Though I have never done it I believe the guys who bang escorts and facebook girls are the upper level mongers who prefer to copulate in a more secure environment. I am a casa bloke myself and have enjoyed that aspect of our hobby ever since massage parlors were introduced into NYC in the 70's. I wish those who practise the other aspects of our hobby to continue having a great time.[/QUOTE]I always thought I was an upper level mongerer, but now realize that I am just a low level, bottom feeding, street walker predator.

I am going to have to get some professional help now, and change my ways, so maybe one day, I can become, an "Upper Level Mongerer".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2400173]I don't understand this back and forth as to which is better.

Lets face it the guys who go for the Centro street walkers are the bottom feeders. Those who session the casa and club babes are a notch above the street walker predators. Though I have never done it I believe the guys who bang escorts and facebook girls are the upper level mongers who prefer to copulate in a more secure environment. I am a casa bloke myself and have enjoyed that aspect of our hobby ever since massage parlors were introduced into NYC in the 70's. I wish those who practise the other aspects of our hobby to continue having a great time.[/QUOTE]

These chicas are far smarter than many of you all arguing here. Many of them are "omni-channel pussy sellers". Quite pragmatic about where the sale happens. Of course price varies just as the price of a miller lite is one thing at walmart and quite another at a high end bar in NY City. And it doesn't matter if you tell the bar what the price is in Walmart. Think Gustos.

They know that and play that game. I have seen FB Chicas with pcitures dressed sexy at the Clocktower in CTG, downtown Medellin, rooftop pools in well known mongering buildings, parque lleras and even look like taken at a casa as well as other well known locations. Same Chicas.

They are not stupid, I mean If they can get a punter that whisks them off to a high end resort in Mexico for a week and stuffs their pockets full of cash, they aren't going to go to Centro to suck 10 penes a day instead, however, when its low season, or they don't get that offer, they are not above selling via the Centro channel either. Some have built up enough of a client roster that they can cut out one or two of the channels. The centro channel is more full of new Vene arrivals, lower strata barrio girls etc. So the "rules" are a bit more relaxed in everything.

So while you all argue over what and where and why and all that, they just keep on hustling.

There is some variation amongst them too, some are truly semi pro, and will just be doing a little selling on the side to augment their shitty paying job, and good for you if you found one of them and make them a regular. And even they sell occasionally in centro. I am more specifically referring to the hardcore pros. Here.

So in short, don't take anything here personal, just go with what works for you. Some guys like the comfort of their room, and feel like being walled in a building or hotel is more secure, some want and like the hunt, some like the anonymity and secure setting of a casa, some just want a nice chica accompanying them on the trip doing activities etc.some like to party etc. You build up enough of a social media roster and you will see it all via the pictures.
The great thing about MDE is there is something for everyone.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2400220]These chicas are far smarter than many of you all arguing here. Many of them are "omni-channel pussy sellers". Quite pragmatic about where the sale happens. Of course price varies just as the price of a miller lite is one thing at walmart and quite another at a high end bar in NY City. And it doesn't matter if you tell the bar what the price is in Walmart. Think Gustos.[/QUOTE]Perfect. This is exactly what most guys don't understand. Pussy is cheap like the Miller Lite at Walmart and we are all fucking the same ones. (I paid $1 for my ML and you paid $16 for yours. Does that mean my ML is inferior?) It depends on where you get the pussy as to what your total will be. Some guys like me can fuck anywhere, so we are going to pay bargain basement. Some guys have to have the room set at 70 degrees F and have a Posturepedic mattress and apple pie scented candles with waterfall noise in the background. Posturpedic and waterfalls ain't cheap!

For me, hookers are just quick fucks so I don't need all that ambiance. I save the spending money on special shit and ambiance for when I am with chicks that are not hookers. That is when you see me doing shit like spending $700/day on a water bungalow in Maldives. When I am just going out boogerwolfin' I keep it simple and cheap.

Like Jay Z said, what you eat doesn't make me shit. I don't care how anyone does what they do or what they spend. I was sharing my experiences on what I did. Some people if they can understand it put it down, that's what the case was in my opinion. It's funny some members complain about the influx of dollars fuckin up the market but what hypocrisy, I'm sure they don't feel bad for the Colombians, that can't smash a girl they could before bcuz now she looking for dollars not pesos when they came with their more valued currency. Sure some are on FB that's in centro, one I smashed off FB the next time I hit told me she works in Gustos and I knew what she was implying she wanted more I pretend I never heard of it and gave the same tariff I gave before. One I met at mansion I told her I wanted 2 polvos for the 200 k she said you know it's one. I told her it's 2 or no date, guess what she gave me 2 polvos. I smashed chicks from mansion, energy and fb I'm equal opportunity. I didn't get a chance to really explore centro but I will next time. When I'm in Tijuana I use agencies, HK, and sw's. If I think I want it I try it. Just like beers there are some for every price point. Some like mgd it's gets you drunk just like a Guinness but guess what I drink Guinness because that's what I like and I don't mind paying for it. Like one member said they not as simple as you think. They don't raise the tariff bcuz one guy over paid many did and they probably aren't members of this forum to know they are over paying. Your issues are with the world becoming smaller with technology, and being more accessible more flights into MDE brings influx of dollars / euros. If they don't know better they pay what they are asked to me it's that simple and you can't control that. With sooo many hot girls I'm sure we can all get our rocks off at price points that are compatible to what's in your pockets.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2400173]I don't understand this back and forth as to which is better.

Lets face it the guys who go for the Centro street walkers are the bottom feeders. Those who session the casa and club babes are a notch above the street walker predators. Though I have never done it I believe the guys who bang escorts and facebook girls are the upper level mongers who prefer to copulate in a more secure environment. I am a casa bloke myself and have enjoyed that aspect of our hobby ever since massage parlors were introduced into NYC in the 70's. I wish those who practise the other aspects of our hobby to continue having a great time.[/QUOTE]Assume what you want, but allow me to say this, I have had sex with chics from the projects and I have had sex with many Medical Doctors in America at that, doesn't mean that the Medical Doctors I bang were top tier chics, it just means they had more comfortable beds and locations for me to bang them in. There is no such thing as high class Pu $$why, at the end of the day, I achieved the same from both chics, I received some Pu $$why. Fool yourself all that you want about the classes of mongers if you want. I have truly found out, some of us are unable to adapt to environments that are different than what we live in. I can adapt and survive in any environment. I use to spend a million to 1. 5 million pesos daily on chics in Medellin. I explored and came to find out that I could achieve the same thing for around $350-$600,000 pesos. To each his / her own, but banging chics from Centro doesn't mean you're a bottom feeder, it means you choose to not be wasteful with you money when trying to achieve the same goal, and that is get some Pu$$y! Pollo Negro is out!

1st they aren't really "streetwalkers" like the crackheads wandering the worse part of town in the US. They are independent contractors who work out of a nearby short term hotel and they don't "walk", they stand (talking about the Colombian local chicks). Obviously some are glue sniffing drug addicts but in my experience most are not. I had a Centro stripper leave some powder in my room and it got turned down by the next 3 Centro Vera Cruz / Raudal girls I brought up to my room, about half smoked some weed or had a drink but half turned that down too. In my opinion the prettiest girl I met / did in 4 trips to MED was a Raudal street girl named Diana who had a absolutely gorgeous face and a rocken enhanced bod to go with it, full Jessica Rabbit. (she is pic 1 in the attached pics, no face pic unfortunately) And that's including trips to Energy, New Life & Fase II. Yes there are lots of substandard chicks also but some are pretty hot and they have all types. These are all Centro street chicks:

Wait never mind, go to Gustos!

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2400220]These chicas are far smarter than many of you all arguing here. Many of them are "omni-channel pussy sellers". Quite pragmatic about where the sale happens. Of course price varies just as the price of a miller lite is one thing at walmart and quite another at a high end bar in NY City. And it doesn't matter if you tell the bar what the price is in Walmart. Think Gustos.

They know that and play that game. I have seen FB Chicas with pcitures dressed sexy at the Clocktower in CTG, downtown Medellin, rooftop pools in well known mongering buildings, parque lleras and even look like taken at a casa as well as other well known locations. Same Chicas.

They are not stupid, I mean If they can get a punter that whisks them off to a high end resort in Mexico for a week and stuffs their pockets full of cash, they aren't going to go to Centro to suck 10 penes a day instead, however, when its low season, or they don't get that offer, they are not above selling via the Centro channel either. Some have built up enough of a client roster that they can cut out one or two of the channels. The centro channel is more full of new Vene arrivals, lower strata barrio girls etc. So the "rules" are a bit more relaxed in everything.

So while you all argue over what and where and why and all that, they just keep on hustling.

There is some variation amongst them too, some are truly semi pro, and will just be doing a little selling on the side to augment their shitty paying job, and good for you if you found one of them and make them a regular. And even they sell occasionally in centro. I am more specifically referring to the hardcore pros. Here.

So in short, don't take anything here personal, just go with what works for you. Some guys like the comfort of their room, and feel like being walled in a building or hotel is more secure, some want and like the hunt, some like the anonymity and secure setting of a casa, some just want a nice chica accompanying them on the trip doing activities etc.some like to party etc. You build up enough of a social media roster and you will see it all via the pictures.
The great thing about MDE is there is something for everyone.[/QUOTE]Great post!

Agreed 100 percent.

I've been saying the same thing for years, just not as eloquently as you, LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2400166]You mention this as being the Medellin thread, and in looking at the "entire group" of threads for Colombia, there is a separate "Escort Classified Section".

I believe the group of threads for Colombia has not changed in a long time, or ever. And in looking at the Escort Classified Section, it doesn't look like it's used much, and here in MDE, I look at the FB scene, as kind of an Escort Service, as it is widely used here.

As one poster mentioned, post's gyrate from theme to theme, and given the increased popularity of the Fay Boo scene, which has increased significantly over the years, I believe it warrants it's own thread in Medellin at this time. Than the non-FB guys wouldn't have to wade thru all the Fay Boo chatter commingled with all the other things covered in the Medellin thread, and for the Fay Boo guys, they would have a dedicated thread to share there experiences with the FB Chicas, and they too, wouldn't have to go thru a bunch of chatter they might not be interested in.

Does this make sense to anyone else, as Medellin / Colombia has changed significantly for mongering over the years going primarily the way of the Internet, but the threads have not.[/QUOTE]Yes I like the idea of a FB thread. Really tired of the same questions asked over, and over. Example " How do I get girls on face book. " With their own thread it would make it easier for them to RTFF.

I really have no problem with fellow Mongers who like FB. I just think their own thread would benefit everyone.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2400313]1st they aren't really "streetwalkers" like the crackheads wandering the worse part of town in the US. They are independent contractors who work out of a nearby short term hotel and they don't "walk", they stand (talking about the Colombian local chicks). Obviously some are glue sniffing drug addicts but in my experience most are not. I had a Centro stripper leave some powder in my room and it got turned down by the next 3 Centro Vera Cruz / Raudal girls I brought up to my room, about half smoked some weed or had a drink but half turned that down too. In my opinion the prettiest girl I met / did in 4 trips to MED was a Raudal street girl named Diana who had a absolutely gorgeous face and a rocken enhanced bod to go with it, full Jessica Rabbit. (she is pic 1 in the attached pics, no face pic unfortunately) And that's including trips to Energy, New Life & Fase II. Yes there are lots of substandard chicks also but some are pretty hot and they have all types. These are all Centro street chicks:

Wait never mind, go to Gustos![/QUOTE]Thanks Wolf, I needed that.

Just a quick clarification of the Facebook / "lifeline" story. It was related more towards the post regarding setting up a (fake) account. I encountered a problem because I had not logged in on my new phone or laptop, and was using a different IP than my last login. Because I don't have my phone linked, I encountered a security issue. The term "lifeline" seemed appropriate because I could not access my account without the help of some randomly-selected FB friends. Moreover, I needed to be able to contact them via other means than FB. Thus, I had to add them on my real account, contact them, and hope 3 of the 5 responded and weren't too skeptical. Now, the frustration was because it was a quick trip, and FB allows you to set up some citas, prior to arrival. I sessioned with a popular FB party girl, today. It was great. I don't use FB, exclusively, nor do I ignore it as a potential resources. I personally like it better than PhotoP, but in my opinion, it is not as popular as a few years ago. I try to take the conversation to WhatsApp as quick as possible.

More on today. I was going to meet this girl last night, but the timing didn't work. This is the 3rd time I've seen her. I love her energy, smile, and propensity to slam drinks and dicks. We went to lunch, had some drinks, back to the apto for her favorite. Gin, then one-way ticket to poundtown. I was in a European airport, prior to MDE, and actually bought a cool bottle of gin, with the expectation of her coming over and enjoying it. She loved it. It was unique for a Colombian girl in her position. Simple things, but it can be special for a girl that might perform better when she's happy or feels a connection. Anyway, 250 k good fun. I think she's hot and she has perfect naturals. Plenty of photos to prove that.

The petite blonde has officially received the Heisman treatmant, but it was definitely fun while it lasted. 3-4 sleepovers, all free, cute 19 yo. I found out she's from outside the city, and living in a hotel with a friend. She primarily works Lleras. I think you could pick her out of the crowd. She brought up needing money, and I kind of feel bad. I might slip her something before I leave, but it's kill or be killed in this life of thuggery we all endure!

I stopped into Gusto's last night, and again, packed with talent. If you have 600 k in your pocket, that you're willing to part with, have a few drinks, negotiate to maybe 500 k and see what happens. For me, I just like the window shopping, although I have pulled from there. I got 3-4 numbers, and will see if the price decreases outside the club.

I went to Centro the other day and in 3 trips, I've seen 2-3 girls that looked good enough, but didn't partake. I think walking into New Life just gives me that extra push to seal the deal, while Centro has far more variables and unfamiliarities, for me.

Cheers, boys!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2400313]1st they aren't really "streetwalkers" like the crackheads wandering the worse part of town in the US. They are independent contractors who work out of a nearby short term hotel and they don't "walk", they stand (talking about the Colombian local chicks). Obviously some are glue sniffing drug addicts but in my experience most are not. I had a Centro stripper leave some powder in my room and it got turned down by the next 3 Centro Vera Cruz / Raudal girls I brought up to my room, about half smoked some weed or had a drink but half turned that down too. In my opinion the prettiest girl I met / did in 4 trips to MED was a Raudal street girl named Diana who had a absolutely gorgeous face and a rocken enhanced bod to go with it, full Jessica Rabbit. (she is pic 1 in the attached pics, no face pic unfortunately) And that's including trips to Energy, New Life & Fase II. Yes there are lots of substandard chicks also but some are pretty hot and they have all types. These are all Centro street chicks:

Wait never mind, go to Gustos![/QUOTE]Nice! This why imma a member, you getting me juiced to dedicate some days to el centro when I come back. I wanted to get out there the day I did after leaving new life it was getting dark I was with a guy I don't know how comfortable he would be and it was kind of hectic bcuz they were having some residual protest so I didn't get the time I would have liked. But yeah it's some nice ones in these photos and despite what some may think I like pussy for the low too!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2400313]1st they aren't really "streetwalkers" like the crackheads wandering the worse part of town in the US. They are independent contractors who work out of a nearby short term hotel and they don't "walk", they stand (talking about the Colombian local chicks). Obviously some are glue sniffing drug addicts but in my experience most are not. I had a Centro stripper leave some powder in my room and it got turned down by the next 3 Centro Vera Cruz / Raudal girls I brought up to my room, about half smoked some weed or had a drink but half turned that down too. In my opinion the prettiest girl I met / did in 4 trips to MED was a Raudal street girl named Diana who had a absolutely gorgeous face and a rocken enhanced bod to go with it, full Jessica Rabbit. (she is pic 1 in the attached pics, no face pic unfortunately) And that's including trips to Energy, New Life & Fase II. Yes there are lots of substandard chicks also but some are pretty hot and they have all types. These are all Centro street chicks:

Wait never mind, go to Gustos![/QUOTE]I can totally re-confirm what you have stated. The majority of the working girls I have encountered as well in El Centro are typically Mom's, just trying to make ends meet, and are pretty "straight" although some may occasionally smoke weed, but the majority of them are not "glue sniffing drug addicts" as you mentioned.

I can see how other members may have that impression though, because for those who have not spent much time in El Centro, and pass by the Veracruz Church area, there can be glue sniffers, and people doing lines of coke, and smoking weed in this area at times.

As far as Gustos, I've never been there, and have only read about other member's experiences, some of which sounded like a great time for them, however expensive compared to what can be found in El Centro if you lower your standards a notch as you mentioned. Additionally, if you decide to sample the merchandise in El Centro, you will be joining an "Elite Group", that has been characterized by one member, as "bottom feeding street walking predators". I am proud to be a member of this Elite Group.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2400501]Nice! This why imma a member, you getting me juiced to dedicate some days to el centro when I come back. I wanted to get out there the day I did after leaving new life it was getting dark I was with a guy I don't know how comfortable he would be and it was kind of hectic bcuz they were having some residual protest so I didn't get the time I would have liked. But yeah it's some nice ones in these photos and despite what some may think I like pussy for the low too![/QUOTE]You might just abandon all those Fay Boo Chicas after sampling the merchandise in El Centro, and become a "bottom feeding street walking predator".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2400191]I always thought I was an upper level mongerer, but now realize that I am just a low level, bottom feeding, street walker predator.

I am going to have to get some professional help now, and change my ways, so maybe one day, I can become, an "Upper Level Mongerer".[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are indeed an upper level mongerer after all seeing that you are willing to spend mega bucks on professional help. The bottom feeders are the smartest mongers of all, spending less cash on quality poontang.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2400501]Nice! This why imma a member, you getting me juiced to dedicate some days to el centro when I come back. I wanted to get out there the day I did after leaving new life it was getting dark I was with a guy I don't know how comfortable he would be and it was kind of hectic bcuz they were having some residual protest so I didn't get the time I would have liked. But yeah it's some nice ones in these photos and despite what some may think I like pussy for the low too![/QUOTE]Yeah I don't go after dark, too many drunk Colombians hanging around and less cops, I hit the Centro strip clubs and if I don't see what I want go to Fase II after 11 p when it starts to have more girls on the floor.

Generally the hotter older ones will be over in the Raudal block which is not as busy girl wise but sometimes has some hot ones who could work Fase II if they wanted too, they want more $ then the 30 k Vera Cruz girls, in the 50 k to 80 k range. (gringo quotes).

Where that is compared to Vera Cruz (named after the Iglesia de la Veracruz, the old white church which goes back to 1682 which the main strip is behind) is only a few blocks as seen on my map, ignore the Parque Bolivar chicks who most aren't chicks is seems. Although some may be, not sure, have seen some hot ones but usually suspiciously tall.

The Venezuelans are more on the SW edge of Plaza Botero.

That said my hotel is close enough to do multiple laps a day as the hot ones come and go, not always there but it is close to stores and restaurants (to the east and south east) that it can be fun to walk around. The 2 nearby walking streets with lots of stores / food are Avenida Carabobo (Carr 52) which if you came out the front door of Iglesia de la Veracruz, walked straight to the street and go right. The other one (which I think has better food options) starts across the street from the south end of Parque Bolivar, Paseo de Junin (Carr 49).

For dinner I'd try Hacienda (classic Colombian dishes) on the east side of the street, 2 blocks from Bolivar Park, Cra. 49 Junand #52-98, and for breakfast I like Versalles Restaurante why Pasteleria, (you can get a gringo style eggs / bacon etc, if you ask they will bring a menu in english) north side, one block from Bolivar, Cr. 49 #53-39, if the downstairs is full, stairs back in to the right for the upstairs. Right across the street from Versalles is the Centro Artesnal "Mi Viejo Pueblo" souvenir & handcrafted Colombians items mall, many small stalls, worth walking thru.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2399360]I've heard a lot of great things about the AirBB St Peter in Laureles. In fact, that place is on my list when I go next year. I was considering 2 night at the Mansion, then my final 6 nights at St Peter. Depending on how many contacts I can find on FB, I've read where its pretty easy to load up on chica contacts at the Mansion? Is that place a giant fuk factory? Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for the AirBB St. Peter in Laureles? I will be in Medellin next week and need to find a place to stay.

OK, so #4, I have big problems with this. I know it's true because I've seen it with my own eyes, but I have trouble believing it. I'm going to back you up on the overall theme of your post, to each his own.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399918]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet.

If you just look at the surface, there are only about 30 guys on the Medellin board here at ISG. That's about how many regularly post. The actual number is probably close to 3,000.99% never do anything.

Getting followers on social media is easy. It's even easier if you're an attractive woman who likes posting pictures in a bikini. My former roommate, the webcam model, has over 100,000 followers of her webcam. Total number of dicks she's handled in her life? Probably about 10, although that may be high. Of those 100,000 followers, less than 20 regularly spend money on her and she's making about $100 k US a year..[/QUOTE]

I am a Centro rat but I sometimes have to resort to facebook when the girls I deal with have their phones stolen.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2400536]You might just abandon all those Fay Boo Chicas after sampling the merchandise in El Centro, and become a "bottom feeding street walking predator".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2400681]I am a Centro rat but I sometimes have to resort to facebook when the girls I deal with have their phones stolen.[/QUOTE]It seems to be a recurring theme in El Centro, with a lot of the girls with smart phones having them stolen. And about a third of the girls I know don't even have phone's, or even Internet service where they live. And with the exception of a few in my stable, they don't even have smart phones, just cheap burner phones.

One of my regulars with a $ 15 burner phone told me she has had it for like four years, and it was falling apart. This illustrates to me how un-sophisticated, and poor, some of these girls are trying to survive working the streets of El Centro.

[QUOTE=JCityRockers;2400668]Do you have a link for the AirBB St. Peter in Laureles? I will be in Medellin next week and need to find a place to stay.[/QUOTE]Here's the room I rented when I stayed there:

[URL]www.airbnb.com/rooms/15060230[/URL]

I'm set to make a trip there next week. Are the protests still going on? Anything to worry about as far as their effect on the festivities, the airport, etc. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Houstonian;2400932]I'm set to make a trip there next week. Are the protests still going on? Anything to worry about as far as their effect on the festivities, the airport, etc. Thanks! T[/QUOTE]The "Paros" or protests you are referring too are ongoing within the Country, but primarily in Bogota, and to a much lesser degree here in Medellin. I have seen nothing in the news, or heard of any planned protests that are to occur in the next few weeks here in Medellin. However, if your planning to go to Bogota, that could be a different story.

[QUOTE=Talon;2400915]Here's the room I rented when I stayed there:

[URL]www.airbnb.com/rooms/15060230[/URL][/QUOTE]I booked mine at San Peter the other day on hotelscom at $35/day. I know your link says the penthouse at $40/day, but the problem I have with airbnb is that when it is all said and done, the $40 turns into almost $80 for 1 day after a cleaning fee and service fee.

[QUOTE=Houstonian;2400932]I'm set to make a trip there next week. Are the protests still going on? Anything to worry about as far as their effect on the festivities, the airport, etc. Thanks![/QUOTE]Currently in Medellin. I have not seen any issues.

I have been to Medellin multiple times, but had never been to El Centro.

On my trip now, I happened to be in the area, for some work, along with a Venezuelan girl I.

Have known from earlier trips. She is a professional prepago / working girl, but is high end.

She was helping me with some translation on the visit to El Centro area. After my work was done.

We strolled through the Plaza Botero, and decided to go into the Botero Museum.

After the museum visit, I asked her to help me find the intersection of Calle 52, Carrera 52.

The epicenter of the Veni girls in Medellin. I took a picture of the sign just for kicks.

We were there around midday on Friday. It was pretty crowded with all kinds of people.

I did notice a few girls right below the sign. These observations are mine alone and are subjective.

The girls I noticed were kind of garish, with typical caked on white makeup and unnaturally red lips.

I didn't talk to any of them, but from what I over heard, they seem to be working in the 30 mil COP.

Range. Place didn't seem unsafe to me. If folks are interested in partaking the offerings, it shouldn't be a problem.

For me personally, it is not my scene for the following reasons.

1) The Venezuelans being at an economic disadvantage, would probably be ruthless and it will be a high.

Turnover model, with a quick nut and go situation. Plus, I would probably feel guilty taking advantage of.

Their poverty.

2) I generally pay my dates around 200 + 20 tip, I like to get a meal together, get drinks etc. Usually, spend about 4 hours together.

I found my dates from strip clubs, massage parlors, FB, photoprepagos, SA etc. A few were clock watchers.

And they will not be invited back. Probably, less than a handful so far. Also, I like to have a conversation with my dates.

And that my be difficult with the Centro girls.

3) Third and most important reason about the Venezuelan girls in El Centro is that, they are high volume.

Agreeable to indulge in unprotected sex. Unlike the Colombianos, they don't have access to the free or subsidized health care.

They might be a breeding ground for STDs and other communicable diseases, which may be untreated.

I had a date today, she is about 24, has a 3 year old child, Colombian, studying to be a lawyer. Light skinned fake redhead.

Had a good session. I try to do two sessions like this per day. Most of my girls are students, single mothers.

Shop and office workers.

Anyway, these observations and experiences are mine alone. Everyone's situation and tastes may be different.

Hope this is helpful to some folks.

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I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.

Only Nasty girls in Parque Lleras. It is full of trannies. I just got back. All they guys looking clueless probably didn't find the hot girls they were expecting and were lost. Lots of wall st money thrown into the economy as an airport tunnel going miles now exists. Party is half over there like Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;1995880]What worked best for you? This is my second trip to Columbia, First to Medellin. I was in Bogota last year and seemed like I floundered.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399918]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet...[/QUOTE]This is pure words of wisdom. I would add that the fb girl in the original post that started this prolonged conversation just turned 19 not so long ago, I have seen her ID. There is no way she fucked all her 1300+ followers. In my experience, it is easier to find younger girls on fb than walking the streets or going to the clubs. I just spent 1.5 weeks in Japan, I hate mongering there. I can't wait to come back to Medellin.

Has anyone stayed at energy apartments? Or do you recommend staying in the Laureles section.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]The mansion is a hotel that has girls there most of the day at the pool or in the bar you have to stay there to be there. Find the link on the forum, make a reservation for at least 2 nights if you don't have many contacts in Medellin this will be your opportunity to load up on contacts. I can't put a number on it but I can not see a way you cannot find a girl anytime of the day whether you use FB, photoprepagos, girls you have met or go to parque lleras, or el centro in daytime. Always get numbers, and when you feel the need write them and see if they are available.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2401094]I have been to Medellin multiple times, but had never been to El Centro.

On my trip now, I happened to be in the area, for some work, along with a Venezuelan girl I.

Have known from earlier trips. She is a professional prepago / working girl, but is high end.

She was helping me with some translation on the visit to El Centro area. After my work was done.

We strolled through the Plaza Botero, and decided to go into the Botero Museum.

After the museum visit, I asked her to help me find the intersection of Calle 52, Carrera 52.

The epicenter of the Veni girls in Medellin. I took a picture of the sign just for kicks.

We were there around midday on Friday. It was pretty crowded with all kinds of people.

I did notice a few girls right below the sign. These observations are mine alone and are subjective..[/QUOTE]Paying $220,000 for a chic does not lessen your chance of a STD, you truly revealed just how judgmental you are, but you wouldn't believe it based on how boldly you took your time to write your post. Centro is not for the uppity individual who does not deal well with the homeless. Have fun in Medellin, leave Centro for guys like me! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]It really depends on your budget and your willingness to go talk to girls. If spending 200 dollars (150 for the girl and 50 for drinks) to party all night with a hot paisa is above your budget, then stay away from club gusto in parque Lleras. The street walkers in Lleras is a hit and miss game, but it is fun to walk around there on Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. If you want hit on normal girls, try the clubs a few blocks away from gusto such as la octava. If you have no Spanish speaking skills like me, then you need to be a good dancer and super good with google translate. Other clubs to consider is club Fahrenheit, this club stays open after all the clubs in Lleras closes. You will sometimes find working girls there, but most the people there are just local party people.

In terms of strip clubs and clubs filled with working girls, try the following: Discoteca Fase II and it's after party club El Faisan. Faisan opens after Fase 2 closes, all the stripper who wants to work extra hours will go there, you can fuck any girl there for less then 200 k pesos. The quality there is pretty good. On a bit higher end, try la Isla and it's after party club Paradise. They are considerably more expensive, but the environment and girls are on average better.

To really have a great party with a girl, you need to collect numbers and ask them for second or third date. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind a more mechanical casa like experience there are two strip clubs with attached love motels. The action at these begin about 11 PM. Fase Dos charges about 220 mil pesos for an hour and La Isla charges about 300. You won't get any "chupar sin condon" at these clubs without a substantial tip unlike with the mansion chicas it's pretty much always included.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2401094]I have been to Medellin multiple times, but had never been to El Centro.

On my trip now, I happened to be in the area, for some work, along with a Venezuelan girl I.

Have known from earlier trips. She is a professional prepago / working girl, but is high end.

She was helping me with some translation on the visit to El Centro area. After my work was done.

We strolled through the Plaza Botero, and decided to go into the Botero Museum.

After the museum visit, I asked her to help me find the intersection of Calle 52, Carrera 52.

The epicenter of the Veni girls in Medellin. I took a picture of the sign just for kicks.

We were there around midday on Friday. It was pretty crowded with all kinds of people.[/QUOTE]For a first time visitor to "ground zero", you have made some good observations, and a lot of the assumptions you have made are good. Some of the things I have experienced and observed are that the Vennnies are in a tight squeeze given the sheer numbers of them competing for clients, so with the exception of the really cute ones, the majority of them are not doing multiple guys per day, let alone one a day, and some of them as I call them are disgustingly fat and ugly,(Fuglies) as I refer to them, and "garish" as you mentioned.

Additionally, not all of the Vennies are mercenaries, but some of them think they are the best thing since "sliced bread", walking around strutting their hinnies, etc. The Colombians don't typically act like that at ground zero. Also, some of the Vennies think the "gringos" are stupid. And some of them are, but as an example, some of the Vennies have quoted me like 40 K for a rato and I typically just laugh at them and tell them that there are Colombians that will go for 20 K (which is true) and I ask them, why would somebody give you 40 K when they can get it for 20 K, and I typically get this weird grin, and okay, how much? And you are correct, the Vennies will typically will ask for 30 K.

Anyways, approximately three months ago there was another member of this board who was at ground zero and swore he couldn't see any Vennies working. Hard to believe as they are everywhere. Regardless of this, great observations / assumptions for a first time visitor to ground zero.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]Look we were all first timers once. But that said, how knowledgeable are you about Latino culture? You are really making things very hard on yourself. Again, I'm not trying to slam you.

Christmas thru New Year's is not exactly the best time to be hunting for girls in Medellin (or for that matter in other Latin American Countries) remember they are heavily Catholic. Christmas and Easter are monumental.

Holidays for Latinos. Every girl you are fantasizing about will be at home with their family and likely completely inaccessible unless they already know you and want to see you. All the rest will be home drinking and partying with their families. It's what they do.

Remember! The girls are home with their family because their biggest meal ticket (Colombian men) are at home with their families. I can't say for sure but I'll guess the cases will be very slow on the days they are open at all. Your best bet will be Photoprepagos and or Milerotica. It sure would help if you had some conversational abilities in Spanish. I've noticed over time that Colombianas don't always have long attention spans and the time you need to cut and paste their messages into Google Translate, formulate your response and cut and paste it back is going to lose you your contacts with some frequency.

I wish you luck but if this doesn't meet your expectations don't call it quits on Colombia. Come back at a more opportunistic time and practice some Spanish on DuoLingo or some other program.

Good Luck and have fun!

Hi SJobs. I keep reading posts like yours that in parque lleras you can expect to pay 150 dollars. This is only true if you go along with that quote. I can tell you that I and many mongers here pay 200 k. Perhaps the common factor is that I and the other mongers I know speak Spanish and refuse to overpay. Just look at how crowded the park is with girls looking for dates I have gone out with beautiful girls that go to Lleras looking for fools that want to overpay. I say fools because that is what she and others call them. Bobos. I took one girl out for dinner and she told me how one fool paid her 200 dollars. She told me she couldn't believe he agreed to it.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401320]It really depends on your budget and your willingness to go talk to girls. If spending 200 (150 for the girl and 50 for drinks) to party all night with a hot paisa is above your budget, then stay away from club gusto in parque Lleras. The street walkers in Lleras is a hit and miss game, but it is fun to walk around there on Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. If you want hit on normal girls, try the clubs a few blocks away from gusto such as la octava. If you have no Spanish speaking skills like me, then you need to be a good dancer and super good with google translate. Other clubs to consider is club Fahrenheit, this club stays open after all the clubs in Lleras closes. You will sometimes find working girls there, but most the people there are just local party people.

In terms of strip clubs and clubs filled with working girls, try the following: Discoteca Fase II and it's after party club El Faisan. Faisan opens after Fase 2 closes, all the stripper who wants to work extra hours will go there, you can fuck any girl there for less then 200 k pesos. The quality there is pretty good. On a bit higher end, try la Isla and it's after party club Paradise. They are considerably more expensive, but the environment and girls are on average better.

To really have a great party with a girl, you need to collect numbers and ask them for second or third date. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401320]It really depends on your budget and your willingness to go talk to girls. If spending 200 dollars (150 for the girl and 50 for drinks) to party all night with a hot paisa is above your budget, then stay away from club gusto in parque Lleras. The street walkers in Lleras is a hit and miss game, but it is fun to walk around there on Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. If you want hit on normal girls, try the clubs a few blocks away from gusto such as la octava. If you have no Spanish speaking skills like me, then you need to be a good dancer and super good with google translate. Other clubs to consider is club Fahrenheit, this club stays open after all the clubs in Lleras closes. You will sometimes find working girls there, but most the people there are just local party people.

In terms of strip clubs and clubs filled with working girls, try the following: Discoteca Fase II and it's after party club El Faisan. Faisan opens after Fase 2 closes, all the stripper who wants to work extra hours will go there, you can fuck any girl there for less then 200 k pesos. The quality there is pretty good. On a bit higher end, try la Isla and it's after party club Paradise. They are considerably more expensive, but the environment and girls are on average better.

To really have a great party with a girl, you need to collect numbers and ask them for second or third date. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I really appreciate the responses / information. 150-200 for all night doesn't seem unreasonable if the girls are attractive and cool to hang out with. I was thinking because I ll be going out solo and have limited / broken Spanish that my chances of picking up a non-working girl would be quite low and I wouldn't want to waste a night when I would rather just spend the cash and have a great time. I have decent game and am an OK dancer. Would I have any chance to score with regular girls? I have no shame in approaching woman, but like I said, I would just rather not waste my time if my chances are quite low. What do you think my chances would be to score with non-pros in Parque Lleras? Me-mid 30's, not shy, white, tall, decent looking, bad Spanish, will be out hunting solo. Again, any replies is greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]Let's start with the Mansion. It's an old, well 2 old mansions converted into a hotel. You can find the website by searching Google for Hotel M Medellin. During the day there are girls who hang out at the pool. At night there is a bar where the girls hang out. Latest rules are you can go to the bar at night even if you aren't a guest at the hotel, but there's a 50 k cover charge. It's roughly 1 mile from Parque Lleras.

The bars along Calle 33 and Calle 45 are more for locals, or people who speak Spanish. I wouldn't suggest them for a first time visitor with minimal Spanish.

If you can dance, hit the discos around Parque Lleras, or on Carrera 70 in Laureles. Don't get drunk. Don't let people buy you drinks. Keep an eye on your drink. And dance. If you're young, reasonably attractive and a good dancer, you'll find all the action you want and all you'll pay for is a few drinks and a taxi.

[QUOTE=Magkfngz;2401227]Has anyone stayed at energy apartments? Or do you recommend staying in the Laureles section.[/QUOTE]I have to say that on my next trip I might stay in Laureles because a person can save some serious money by doing so, but that being said, if money was not an object than it still depends on other factors. Which means of mongering are you going to be most likely to partake in? I primarily used FB and some tender and picked up some SWs in Parque LLeras. Energy was perfect for me. The building has good security which I respect not so much for my safety but for keeping me out of trouble if you know what I mean. For the square footage though you can probably find something for half the price in Laureles. But it definitely will not have the views that you get from the roof pool area of Energy,

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2401393]Hi SJobs. I keep reading posts like yours that in parque lleras you can expect to pay 150 dollars. This is only true if you go along with that quote. I can tell you that I and many mongers here pay 200 k. Perhaps the common factor is that I and the other mongers I know speak Spanish and refuse to overpay. Just look at how crowded the park is with girls looking for dates I have gone out with beautiful girls that go to Lleras looking for fools that want to overpay. I say fools because that is what she and others call them. Bobos. I took one girl out for dinner and she told me how one fool paid her 200 dollars. She told me she couldn't believe he agreed to it.

.[/QUOTE]I think Sjobs is referring to inside Gusto versus out in the park itself. Gusto also charges 30k for a Heineken that you can get down the street for 8k. Though I also remember reading others saying girls in Parque Lleras would try to scam guys for big bucks, I never had a chica there quote me more than 200 k pesos. I was told by the chicas in the park that Gusto chicas would charge 200 USD. I was in Parque Lleras Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night and I always saw that least a few chicas that were very pretty and quite doable. I also saw a few that were not. Regardless though everyone in the park including some gringos and locals that I talked to there said that the market price for ST is 200 k pesos. I went inside Gusto twice and never once saw a 600 k peso chica that I could not match on FB for 150-200 K pesos. Could be that I was there on bad nights.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401114]I am visiting Medellin for the last 2 weeks of December. It will be my first trip to Colombia and my Spanish is minimal. Mid 30's, decent looking and decent game. I have been reading the forum for a few weeks and I think I am set for picking up chicas during the day with the casas and perhaps heading down to Centro as well. I obviously don't want to be in Centro past daylight, so I was wondering what is my best option for mongering at night? I don't have Facebook and I am probably not going to create an account just to monger. Is there another way to contact working girls online using websites? Is Colombian Cupid worth it? Can anyone recommend some places you can pick up chicas at night in Medellin, whether it be a casa, strip club, or just a night club or bar which working girls are known to frequent. I have heard Parque Lleras can be hit or miss with the working girls and that they are way over priced. How are the clubs near avenida 33rd and 70th in Laurelas? Sorry if the streets are incorrect, can't remember off the top of my head. I really prefer to do my mongering and partying at night and anyone who could off some advice would be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading about the "Mansion"? How far is it from Parque Lleras? What hours is it open and how exactly does it work there? Is it just a huge brothel, or nightclub with working girls. Again, anyone who could offer some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance if you respond.[/QUOTE]A lot of chicas in Medellin use Tinder as a platform for "escort service". I got Tinder Gold before I even left the states because the Gold version allows you to put your location in any city you choose, then you can start swiping on chicas there. I met a few in Medellin before I arrived and hooked up with one of those when I was there. I am not in my thirties, and not therefore decent looking (I do have long game though) LOL. I am in my fifties and look to be in my sixties, so when a sweet young thing pops up on tinder and shows interest I can be 75% sure that she is a working girl, I was fooled once in Medellin and once in Cartagena by non working girls that wanted to meet me but I was not interested because I am more into that sure thing that if I am paying a chica then I am going to bed with the chica.

Latinamerican and Colombian cupid are potential sources for pregagos but I have been messing around on these sites for well over a decade and they are time consuming. I have had some good experiences as a result but the amount of wading through and talking back and forth in order to sort through which chicas are looking for a father for their children, which are semi-pros, and which are scam artist etc. can be tiresome. I also saw chicas on there that had profiles on FB that were clearly prepago profiles and then later saw their profile on Tinder. It's just time consuming to figure out what the chicas are actually up to. This last trip to Colombia I ended up just started telling chicas on there that I was only looking for short term romance in the first conversation and that filtered them out quickly but I never hooked up with any of them because I had my plate filled by FB and Tinder. If you are not going to go the FB route and are looking for an online platform to add to your mongering than Tinder might be your best bet. Then again being younger than me, you might end up with some free pussy also, nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401171] I would add that the fb girl in the original post that started this prolonged conversation just turned 19 not so long ago, I have seen her ID. There is no way she fucked all her 1300+ followers. [/QUOTE]I am just going to use this to illustrate an observation. I think she probably has more customers than many Centro girls after you posted her Facebook page.

A common assumption is cheaper means more customers. That is simply not the case. I guess JB knows that and that is why he compared "most" fb girls to "gems" in Centro in his post. If the girls have so many customers, why many of them can't afford a phone, or unable to pay for data.

Another one is that because Centro girls are desperate, they will provide better service then FB girls or Centro girls are mercenaries like just posted. It really depends on girls. Many girls don't have experience before and that will affect service. I personally think the same girl in the same situation, FB girl will perform better because they have a choice to do it in a nicer environment than where they live, and are not doing it for survival.

It is difficult to justify spending a lot more elsewhere if one can finds something he likes in El Centro. This is the same reason many mongers won't pay for sex in US after paying for sex in Colombia.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2401393]Hi SJobs. I keep reading posts like yours that in parque lleras you can expect to pay 150 dollars. This is only true if you go along with that quote. I can tell you that I and many mongers here pay 200 k. Perhaps the common factor is that I and the other mongers I know speak Spanish and refuse to overpay. Just look at how crowded the park is with girls looking for dates I have gone out with beautiful girls that go to Lleras looking for fools that want to overpay. I say fools because that is what she and others call them. Bobos. I took one girl out for dinner and she told me how one fool paid her 200 dollars. She told me she couldn't believe he agreed to it..[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing out the best possible option in Gusto. I totally agree that I do act foolish from time to time, especially when it comes mongering. I'm perfectly aware that a street girl in Lleras costs about 150 k-200 k, and I have taken many of them home. I also had FB girls for 200 k who provided excellent service. However, please allow me to put things in perspective for you.

I will start with an example. I was just in Japan pitching a software product, for me our customers are total stupid fools for paying a software solution that is more than a decade old and full of bugs. As a professional software developer who have built multiple software startups, I would consider all our potential customers fools. However, are they really? Their core competency is not software, for them software is a means to the end, our customer's market cap is over 60 billion dollars and they generate 2 billion dollars in net profit every quarter, their success (or foolishness) is not measured by their choice of software. Same thing goes with picking girls in Gusto, my core competency is not speaking Spanish nor nickel-and-dime with an 18-21 year old knock out. For me, paying 200 dollars for a whole night is steal (I just paid 600 dollars for 1.5 hours in Japan with a 31 year old MILF). This is a price point that I'm more than happy to accept, and I get good services (all of them provide BBBJ with deep throat, and infinite DFK). I totally understand that if I choose to spend 3 years to learn Spanish and invest a huge amount of time to learn the inner workings of Prostitution in Melledin, then I will get a much better deal. However, putting my energy elsewhere can generate much better return, it makes a 200 dollar fuck as affordable as 200 K peso fuck. In the end, it really depends what you value the most, the best bang for the buck or the most hassle-free fuck at a reasonable price with minimal time investment.

With all that said, I mean no disrespect to the pros who chose to invest a lot of time to learn Spanish and to figure out the most economical way to monger in Medellin. I am forever grateful for receiving many great advice from the senior members. I'm simply trying put out a different mongering perspective.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401474]A lot of chicas in Medellin use Tinder as a platform for "escort service". I got Tinder Gold before I even left the states because the Gold version allows you to put your location in any city you choose, then you can start swiping on chicas there. I met a few in Medellin before I arrived and hooked up with one of those when I was there. I am not in my thirties, and not therefore decent looking (I do have long game though) LOL. I am in my fifties and look to be in my sixties, so when a sweet young thing pops up on tinder and shows interest I can be 75% sure that she is a working girl, I was fooled once in Medellin and once in Cartagena by non working girls that wanted to meet me but I was not interested because I am more into that sure thing that if I am paying a chica then I am going to bed with the chica.

Latinamerican and Colombian cupid are potential sources for pregagos but I have been messing around on these sites for well over a decade and they are time consuming. I have had some good experiences as a result but the amount of wading through and talking back and forth in order to sort through which chicas are looking for a father for their children, which are semi-pros, and which are scam artist etc. can be tiresome. I also saw chicas on there that had profiles on FB that were clearly prepago profiles and then later saw their profile on Tinder. It's just time consuming to figure out what the chicas are actually up to. This last trip to Colombia I ended up just started telling chicas on there that I was only looking for short term romance in the first conversation and that filtered them out quickly but I never hooked up with any of them because I had my plate filled by FB and Tinder. If you are not going to go the FB route and are looking for an online platform to add to your mongering than Tinder might be your best bet. Then again being younger than me, you might end up with some free pussy also, nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]I can confirm what you have stated, I'm not a Fay Boo guy as most of the regular members on this board know, however, I do have Tinder like you, and have used it all over the world, I like it's portability, and with the feature you mentioned which I have as well, I just dial in the location, put in the age group, and low and behold, at least here in Medellin, all kinds of girls pop up.

It's not free of course, you have to pay for it, and it's a simple platform to use versus the Fay Boo system. If you match, or I should say the Prepagos send you interest, you exchange What'sapp numbers, and your off to the races.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401456]I have to say that on my next trip I might stay in Laureles because a person can save some serious money by doing so, but that being said, if money was not an object than it still depends on other factors. Which means of mongering are you going to be most likely to partake in? I primarily used FB and some tender and picked up some SWs in Parque LLeras. Energy was perfect for me. The building has good security which I respect not so much for my safety but for keeping me out of trouble if you know what I mean. For the square footage though you can probably find something for half the price in Laureles. But it definitely will not have the views that you get from the roof pool area of Energy,[/QUOTE]The Energy Building in Pobaldo is known all over town as being full of "gringos and prostitutes" in case that matters to anyone.

Hi Mojo Bandit. I can only tell you and everyone that the times I have gone to Gustos I have seen FB girls that normally go for 200k. I talked to one as she was looking for tourists willing to pay out of line prices. The times I have been there the ratio of women had to be at least 8 to 1. Don't you think when guys start leaving the place later on the girls don't start lowering their prices? These girls don't want to go home without earning something

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401462]I think Sjobs is referring to inside Gusto versus out in the park itself. Gusto also charges 30k for a Heineken that you can get down the street for 8k. Though I also remember reading others saying girls in Parque Lleras would try to scam guys for big bucks, I never had a chica there quote me more than 200 k pesos. I was told by the chicas in the park that Gusto chicas would charge 200 USD. I was in Parque Lleras Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night and I always saw that least a few chicas that were very pretty and quite doable. I also saw a few that were not. Regardless though everyone in the park including some gringos and locals that I talked to there said that the market price for ST is 200 k pesos. I went inside Gusto twice and never once saw a 600 k peso chica that I could not match on FB for 150-200 K pesos. Could be that I was there on bad nights.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2401140]...........an airport tunnel going miles now exists. Party is half over there like Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]"The only constant in life is change"-Heraclitus. Medellin has changed a lot over the last 15 years that I have been going there. Who knows what it is going to morph into in the 2020's, hopefully for the better.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2401570]I can confirm what you have stated, I'm not a Fay Boo guy as most of the regular members on this board know, however, I do have Tinder like you, and have used it all over the world, I like it's portability, and with the feature you mentioned which I have as well, I just dial in the location, put in the age group, and low and behold, at least here in Medellin, all kinds of girls pop up.

It's not free of course, you have to pay for it, and it's a simple platform to use versus the Fay Boo system. If you match, or I should say the Prepagos send you interest, you exchange What'sapp numbers, and your off to the races.[/QUOTE]It's all love Sufer500 but you was kinda salty talking about how I'm not the first or last dick in that girls mouth and you use Tinder which actually gives you more faster access to a girl that has probably had way more dicks in her mouth than that 19 yo LOL. And it's the exact same platform! You send a message, get WhatsApp go from there. Why some members just got to be the alpha I will never understand. It's more than one way to skin a cat, just don't over pay that's the only hard rule LOL.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2401419]I really appreciate the responses / information. 150-200 for all night doesn't seem unreasonable if the girls are attractive and cool to hang out with. I was thinking because I ll be going out solo and have limited / broken Spanish that my chances of picking up a non-working girl would be quite low and I wouldn't want to waste a night when I would rather just spend the cash and have a great time. I have decent game and am an OK dancer. Would I have any chance to score with regular girls? I have no shame in approaching woman, but like I said, I would just rather not waste my time if my chances are quite low. What do you think my chances would be to score with non-pros in Parque Lleras? Me-mid 30's, not shy, white, tall, decent looking, bad Spanish, will be out hunting solo. Again, any replies is greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I fall into roughly the same category as you. Your chance of picking up a regular girl is pretty good, but they are not going to be nearly as young and hot as the working girls. I would recommend learn a few pick up lines, don't get too drunk and have a set of lines ready for google translate. It is fun to play the pick up game a bit, but if the normal girls are not up to your standard or luck is running against, you can always go to Gusto or Paradise or el Faisan. You literally have to try very hard to not get laid in Medellin.

My typical routine on Thursday, Friday or Saturday is to start at the mansion around 9 pm (I don't recommend stay in the hotel, just pay the 50 k to enter the bar). At there you can practice dancing with a few girls to warm up. I once danced, grinded and played with a 22 year old smoking-hot paisa for the price of a beer. If you are lucky, you will find a girl that you want to party all night with, you need to negotiate for a price at the mansion with her, almost any girl will accept 500 k to party and fuck all night (make sure you explicitly mention the services such as BBBJ and / or DFK that you want receive). You then take her to gusto, where you can dance and play with her all night, and then take her home to fuck her brain out. It is possible to follow up with some hot morning sex (depending on how much you guys connected). If after gusto closes you still feel like partying, take her to Fahrenheit or paradise, depending on how drunk you are, you either get a Uber or take a taxi from Lleras. I don't recommend the taxi right in front of Gusto, they will charge you 50 k.

If the mansion doesn't work out, then you are at least warmed up, head to Lleras around 11 pm you will find plenty of normal girls in the clubs on the opposite side of gusto. There is a club called midnight which is pretty cool, it is a pure dance club, if you are a good dancer, you chances are good. If by 1 am nothing happens, you can easily go into gusto to pickup a girl. If you can't find the right girl there, then hit up paradise or el Faisan, they open until 6-8 am, you are guaranteed to score there. You will love the city. Enjoy!

Nice talent. I have to get up the nerve to go down there.

Is there a reason why FB, Tinder & CC is used as a online resource for women over Photo Prepagos which clearly outlines the services, prices of the women & is an actual online escourt listing site? If I was to go the online route I'd think that PP would be the less time consuming source, so why don't people here use it or speak about it much?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2401669]Is there a reason why FB, Tinder & CC is used as a online resource for women over Photo Prepagos which clearly outlines the services, prices of the women & is an actual online escourt listing site? If I was to go the online route I'd think that PP would be the less time consuming source, so why don't people here use it or speak about it much?[/QUOTE]Not every girl on FB or Twitter is a hardcore puta, PP is for pure putas in my opinion plus photo prepagos most have their faces blurred out. FB I get to see many pictures, I don't understand why this is such a big topic the topic should be the girls we meet a brief note where we met, cost, service. I'll say it one last time a few members asked about FB when I made the original post it was to show it doesn't matter how many friends / followers they have. Send the message and see what happens. It's a million ways to meet women in MDE, I'm tryna use all the ways, refine my methods and always have fun. This why I travel alone, get a group of men anywhere and everyone wants to puff out their chest and have a dick measuring contest. Show the girls, report the facts why ya.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2401669]Is there a reason why FB, Tinder & CC is used as a online resource for women over Photo Prepagos which clearly outlines the services, prices of the women & is an actual online escourt listing site? If I was to go the online route I'd think that PP would be the less time consuming source, so why don't people here use it or speak about it much?[/QUOTE]Photo Prepagos is a tool I really never thought of using. I wonder if we could get some input from other men who have used it?

We have plenty of posts concerning FB, and Tinder, and Colombia Cupid, but not much on Photo Prepagos.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2401605]It's all love Sufer500 but you was kinda salty talking about how I'm not the first or last dick in that girls mouth and you use Tinder which actually gives you more faster access to a girl that has probably had way more dicks in her mouth than that 19 yo LOL. And it's the exact same platform! You send a message, get WhatsApp go from there. Why some members just got to be the alpha I will never understand. It's more than one way to skin a cat, just don't over pay that's the only hard rule LOL.[/QUOTE]Sounds like we have a lot more in common besides just taking jabs at one another. With all due respect though, I agree that Tinder and FB use the same platform, that being the Internet, but other than that I believe they are quite different. With Tinder you don't have to spend time accumulating and identify friends, setting up a "phony FB account", having lifelines, etc. Whereas with Tinder it's very quick as you mentioned to get someone sucking your dick!

Regardless, I don't use Tinder here in Medellin because I don't need it and like the street scene. However in other countries with no street scene (s) or other venues that I don't like, I have used it with pretty good success. And I agree with you 100% that there are a lot of ways to skin a cat! It's kind of like having a tool box, which tool are you going to use, for some guys they prefer FB, whereas others prefer Tinder, or both.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401607]I fall into roughly the same category as you. Your chance of picking up a regular girl is pretty good, but they are not going to be nearly as young and hot as the working girls. I would recommend learn a few pick up lines, don't get too drunk and have a set of lines ready for google translate. It is fun to play the pick up game a bit, but if the normal girls are not up to your standard or luck is running against, you can always go to Gusto or Paradise or el Faisan. You literally have to try very hard to not get laid in Medellin.

My typical routine on Thursday, Friday or Saturday is to start at the mansion around 9 pm (I don't recommend stay in the hotel, just pay the 50 k to enter the bar). At there you can practice dancing with a few girls to warm up. I once danced, grinded and played with a 22 year old smoking-hot paisa for the price of a beer. If you are lucky, you will find a girl that you want to party all night with, you need to negotiate for a price at the mansion with her, almost any girl will accept 500 k to party and fuck all night (make sure you explicitly mention the services such as BBBJ and / or DFK that you want receive). You then take her to gusto, where you can dance and play with her all night, and then take her home to fuck her brain out. It is possible to follow up with some hot morning sex (depending on how much you guys connected). If after gusto closes you still feel like partying, take her to Fahrenheit or paradise, depending on how drunk you are, you either get a Uber or take a taxi from Lleras. I don't recommend the taxi right in front of Gusto, they will charge you 50 k.[/QUOTE]The response and information is much appreciated. I am probably going to follow that exact routine. Very excited about this trip!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401462]I think Sjobs is referring to inside Gusto versus out in the park itself. Gusto also charges 30k for a Heineken that you can get down the street for 8k. Though I also remember reading others saying girls in Parque Lleras would try to scam guys for big bucks, I never had a chica there quote me more than 200 k pesos. I was told by the chicas in the park that Gusto chicas would charge 200 USD. I was in Parque Lleras Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night and I always saw that least a few chicas that were very pretty and quite doable. I also saw a few that were not. Regardless though everyone in the park including some gringos and locals that I talked to there said that the market price for ST is 200 k pesos. I went inside Gusto twice and never once saw a 600 k peso chica that I could not match on FB for 150-200 K pesos. Could be that I was there on bad nights.[/QUOTE]Nope. You weren't there on a bad night.

I like to use Las Vegas as an example. There are guys who roll into Vegas once or twice a year. They're hitting the tables, dropping a few thousand, hitting the discos, bottle service in the VIP and they end up with some chick who'll make $2 k or more for the night. There are other guys who roll into town quietly. They hit the tables. Maybe lose $100-$200, maybe win some. They're drinking in the cheap bars and if they want a girl, they pay her $200. She may look just as good as the $2,000 girl. She may even be the $2,000 girl.

It's about the experience. Some can't have a good time unless others see them having a good time. It's a little power trip. "Look at what I can do with my money. "

That's what Gusto is there for. The girls inside know prince charming is going to come along and give them 3 months earnings to party all night, which is what they want to do, and spend 15 minutes playing with the guy's limp pipi until he passes out. He'll go back home raving about the incredible weekend and she'll laugh about it with the guy she sees every week for 100 k.

Parque Lleras, Plaza Botero. There's really not much of a difference.

You just dropped a truth bomb. It will clear a path for some and explode the dreams of others, but it is the truth.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2401730]Nope. You weren't there on a bad night.

I like to use Las Vegas as an example. There are guys who roll into Vegas once or twice a year. They're hitting the tables, dropping a few thousand, hitting the discos, bottle service in the VIP and they end up with some chick who'll make $2 k or more for the night. There are other guys who roll into town quietly. They hit the tables. Maybe lose $100-$200, maybe win some. They're drinking in the cheap bars and if they want a girl, they pay her $200. She may look just as good as the $2,000 girl. She may even be the $2,000 girl.

It's about the experience. Some can't have a good time unless others see them having a good time. It's a little power trip. "Look at what I can do with my money. "

That's what Gusto is there for. The girls inside know prince charming is going to come along and give them 3 months earnings to party all night, which is what they want to do, and spend 15 minutes playing with the guy's limp pipi until he passes out. He'll go back home raving about the incredible weekend and she'll laugh about it with the guy she sees every week for 100 k.

Parque Lleras, Plaza Botero. There's really not much of a difference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2401730]Nope. You weren't there on a bad night.

I like to use Las Vegas as an example. There are guys who roll into Vegas once or twice a year. They're hitting the tables, dropping a few thousand, hitting the discos, bottle service in the VIP and they end up with some chick who'll make $2 k or more for the night. There are other guys who roll into town quietly. They hit the tables. Maybe lose $100-$200, maybe win some. They're drinking in the cheap bars and if they want a girl, they pay her $200. She may look just as good as the $2,000 girl. She may even be the $2,000 girl.

It's about the experience. Some can't have a good time unless others see them having a good time. It's a little power trip. "Look at what I can do with my money. "

That's what Gusto is there for. The girls inside know prince charming is going to come along and give them 3 months earnings to party all night, which is what they want to do, and spend 15 minutes playing with the guy's limp pipi until he passes out. He'll go back home raving about the incredible weekend and she'll laugh about it with the guy she sees every week for 100 k.

Parque Lleras, Plaza Botero. There's really not much of a difference.[/QUOTE]Perhaps your not aware of it, but the monthly minimum salary in Colombia is 828,000 Colombian Pesos per month. And according to what I have read by other posters is that they have been paying between 500,000 and 600,000 Colombian Pesos for all nighter with a "Gusto" Chica. So based on what other guys have been paying that would equate to between two and three weeks pay for an all night with a "Gusto" Chica.

However, according to your post, are you are saying that there are guys paying "Gusto" Chicas 3 months earnings which based on the Colombian monthly minimum salary would be 2,484,00 Colombian Pesos for an all night versus what others has posted?

It's been all non-pro since the petite blonde skipped town for the holidays. Something about the non-pro connection that is so refreshing after the casa, FB, SW routine.

I'm supposed to meet a Tinder girl, after she gets off work at 10 p, tonight. That's probably a <25% chance of probability. So, if it falls through, I might pop my La Isla cherry. I would imagine this week is 50/50 of a late Holiday push for some, and the time they head home, for others. I overheard New Life had a lot of girls working on Monday (although, that was the reaction from the group, I have no idea what the Hi / lo / ave for chicas is).

Some one said Parque Lleras doesn't have any hot SWs, and that just isn't true. Maybe Thu-Sat is better, but I have seen several very good looking girls. Beer Store, in particular, typically has some decent talent in a relaxed setting. As I previously mentioned, Gustos can be slammed with hotties. I would agree that 200 k is the going rate in Lleras, while I have been quoted $200-250 USD inside of Gustos. I took it easy the last few nights, but I'll probably make a strong push here before my Monday departure.

I took a few days off the sauce and explored. Cerro de las Tres Cruces was a good, quick hike. My legs are still sore, two days later. I only stopped for a minute at the halfway point, but you could certainly take a more pedestrian approach. Although, it isn't the easiest or safest trail, as far as the steps and dirt / gravel. I slipped a few times, but nothing too crazy. I also went to Parques del Rio Medellin to see the Christmas lights (the river is lit up, there are decorations, street food, etc.). I think the only things left on my To Do List are Comuna 13 and Parque Arvi, the later of which I can almost guarantee I won't make the effort to go see. I will probably try to hit Andres Carne de Res next to Rio Sur or Lucio Carbon why Vino in Envigado, before I leave.

Instead of debating FB / Tinder / CentroSWs / Casas, maybe we can all agree on something: there needs to be an annual Hooters vs Patrick's vs Ay Wey Bar employee competition. Potato sack race, jump rope contest, tandem balloon-popping, etc. On that note. I noticed Temptation (I believe), in Lleras, for the first time, last night. It seemed like a cross between the places next to Mi Habana (London upstairs, and whatever the one is downstairs) and something like Ay Wey Bar or Chica Boom. Chica Boom, by the way, really just doesn't do it for me. Cash only, and the girls are just eye candy to get patrons in, but remain seated out front in a sad, bored herd.

When is Rappi going to start delivering girls?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2401669]Is there a reason why FB, Tinder & CC is used as a online resource for women over Photo Prepagos which clearly outlines the services, prices of the women & is an actual online escourt listing site? If I was to go the online route I'd think that PP would be the less time consuming source, so why don't people here use it or speak about it much?[/QUOTE]While I hobby all over the world it's only in Medellin that I use Facebook to hook up with girls. In fact my facebook account is only for Medellin and I don't have another at home or anywhere else. Medellin lacks meeting places like Habanos in Panama or gogo bars in SE Asia or FKK clubs in Germany or private apartments in Prague and Kiev or the constantly changing hangout places in Havana. So it fills a void in a city where prostituion is legal. Weird that it's legal here but there are no venues to meet regular girls not working for casas or strip clubs. I also think the FB scene may have evolved from Hotel M aka the mansion. Most of the chicas working there are from Bello and they would gladly "friend" gringos they meet at the La Cueva now called LeBar. The culture of Bello is different and it's not highly critical of chicas selling their ass. The stigma of "selling sex is bad" doesn't exist there to a large degree. It's the way the whole world should be. Sometimes brothers drive their sisters to Pablado to get fucked. Mothers are just happy more money is flowing into the household. So chicas de Bello have no problem using their personal FB accounts with many suggestively sexual pics of themselves. Surfer should probably set up a FB account too. You could find cheap ones on there too if you don't need them flaca. But for me I'll pay more for the flacas. Although this morning found a nice one at Aiffe casa in el centro for 60 mil pesos for 45 minutes se llama Yuliana. I offered her 20 mil propina for chupar sin condon and she didn't answer but a few minutes later was sucking my dick vigorously. Got to love Medellin!

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2401773]While I hobby all over the world it's only in Medellin that I use Facebook to hook up with girls. In fact my facebook account is only for Medellin and I don't have another at home or anywhere else. Medellin lacks meeting places like Habanos in Panama or gogo bars in SE Asia or FKK clubs in Germany or private apartments in Prague and Kiev or the constantly changing hangout places in Havana. So it fills a void in a city where prostituion is legal. Weird that it's legal here but there are no venues to meet regular girls not working for casas or strip clubs. I also think the FB scene may have evolved from Hotel M aka the mansion. Most of the chicas working there are from Bello and they would gladly "friend" gringos they meet at the La Cueva now called LeBar. The culture of Bello is different and it's not highly critical of chicas selling their ass. The stigma of "selling sex is bad" doesn't exist there to a large degree. It's the way the whole world should be. Sometimes brothers drive their sisters to Pablado to get fucked. Mothers are just happy more money is flowing into the household. So chicas de Bello have no problem using their personal FB accounts with many suggestively sexual pics of themselves. Surfer should probably set up a FB account too. You could find cheap ones on there too if you don't need them flaca. But for me I'll pay more for the flacas. Although this morning found a nice one at Aiffe casa in el centro for 60 mil pesos for 45 minutes se llama Yuliana. I offered her 20 mil propina for chupar sin condon and she didn't answer but a few minutes later was sucking my dick vigorously. Got to love Medellin![/QUOTE]I think this is the best explanation of the FB role in Medellin mongering I have heard. That makes sense.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401534]Thanks for pointing out the best possible option in Gusto. I totally agree that I do act foolish from time to time, especially when it comes mongering. I'm perfectly aware that a street girl in Lleras costs about 150 k-200 k, and I have taken many of them home. I also had FB girls for 200 k who provided excellent service. However, please allow me to put things in perspective for you.

I will start with an example. I was just in Japan pitching a software product, for me our customers are total stupid fools for paying a software solution that is more than a decade old and full of bugs. As a professional software developer who have built multiple software startups, I would consider all our potential customers fools. However, are they really? Their core competency is not software, for them software is a means to the end, our customer's market cap is over 60 billion dollars and they generate 2 billion dollars in net profit every quarter, their success (or foolishness) is not measured by their choice of software. Same thing goes with picking girls in Gusto, my core competency is not speaking Spanish nor nickel-and-dime with an 18-21 year old knock out. For me, paying 200 dollars for a whole night is steal (I just paid 600 dollars for 1.5 hours in Japan with a 31 year old MILF). This is a price point that I'm more than happy to accept, and I get good services (all of them provide BBBJ with deep throat, and infinite DFK). I totally understand that if I choose to spend 3 years to learn Spanish and invest a huge amount of time to learn the inner workings of Prostitution in Melledin, then I will get a much better deal. However, putting my energy elsewhere can generate much better return, it makes a 200 dollar fuck as affordable as 200 K peso fuck. In the end, it really depends what you value the most, the best bang for the buck or the most hassle-free fuck at a reasonable price with minimal time investment.

With all that said, I mean no disrespect to the pros who chose to invest a lot of time to learn Spanish and to figure out the most economical way to monger in Medellin. I am forever grateful for receiving many great advice from the senior members. I'm simply trying put out a different mongering perspective.[/QUOTE]To each their own. That said, this sounds like a lot of rationalization to me.

Lets start with the assumption that paying $200 US makes this hassle free. Or guarantees you better service.

Umh. Don't know what to tell you. Ain't true and just read the experiences of some who
have posted about their gustos experiences contrasted with their online hookups.

Minimal time investment? How about the time to get ready go to Gustos and pick out your
selection, settle on a rate and get her back to your place.
Now if you like the process of doing that, then fine, but time efficient? Nothing beats a casa
for that.

What about ordering up a chica via PP or Fb or whatever internet tool you use, that really can't
be beat efficiency wise, you just fuck them when they arrive while waiting in the comfort if your room. Lol

But like everyone seems to agree, each person seems to have their preferred way and there is
no point to the discussion as everyone will think they do it best.

Just go with what works for you. Medellin is great cuz it is like a buffet.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2400571]Yeah I don't go after dark, too many drunk Colombians hanging around and less cops, I hit the Centro strip clubs and if I don't see what I want go to Fase II after 11 p when it starts to have more girls on the floor.

Generally the hotter older ones will be over in the Raudal block which is not as busy girl wise but sometimes has some hot ones who could work Fase II if they wanted too, they want more $ then the 30 k Vera Cruz girls, in the 50 k to 80 k range. (gringo quotes).

Where that is compared to Vera Cruz (named after the Iglesia de la Veracruz, the old white church which goes back to 1682 which the main strip is behind) is only a few blocks as seen on my map, ignore the Parque Bolivar chicks who most aren't chicks is seems. Although some may be, not sure, have seen some hot ones but usually suspiciously tall.

The Venezuelans are more on the SW edge of Plaza Botero.

That said my hotel is close enough to do multiple laps a day as the hot ones come and go, [/QUOTE]I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401838]I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.[/QUOTE]I don't have answer for this. I saw a sign or store sign above the entrance of the bar right at the busy corner with the word Raudal on it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2401730]It's about the experience. Some can't have a good time unless others see them having a good time. It's a little power trip. "Look at what I can do with my money. "[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I tried that shit one time. It was my youngest brother's first time to Thailand so I said we will ball out. I had some friends there too. We were in the club and I bought a few $100 bottles of liquor. That shit was gone in about 5 seconds. Only experience I got from it was walking out of there $500 poorer. Never again. My place is playing the background; low key, on the creep, with maybe a club soda or diet coke in my hand. Then when the time is right, I strike. I don't have a need to be seen or to impress anyone. Not my idea of a good time.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2401836]To each their own. That said, this sounds like a lot of rationalization to me.

Lets start with the assumption that paying $200 US makes this hassle free. Or guarantees you better service.

Umh. Don't know what to tell you. Ain't true and just read the experiences of some who
have posted about their gustos experiences contrasted with their online hookups.

Minimal time investment? How about the time to get ready go to Gustos and pick out your
selection, settle on a rate and get her back to your place.
Now if you like the process of doing that, then fine, but time efficient? Nothing beats a casa
for that.

What about ordering up a chica via PP or Fb or whatever internet tool you use, that really can't
be beat efficiency wise, you just fuck them when they arrive while waiting in the comfort if your room. Lol

But like everyone seems to agree, each person seems to have their preferred way and there is
no point to the discussion as everyone will think they do it best.

Just go with what works for you. Medellin is great cuz it is like a buffet.[/QUOTE]I think you missed some of his posts. One thing he referred to is the time it took to learn Spanish. He posted the original FB link that started the recent conversation so he certainly know all the options. I think he also said she is the hottest FB girl he knows so he is sharing, and she is only 19!

He has a point. Really, if you bill by hours, then you will tend to value your time and money differently. I am not saying he is but it is a similar situation.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2401773]Medellin lacks meeting places like Habanos in Panama[/QUOTE]Isn't that what Gusto's is?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2401773]or gogo bars in SE Asia. Weird that it's legal here but there are no venues to meet regular girls not working for casas or strip clubs.[/QUOTE]Scratching my head. You want a place like a gogo bar, but you don't want it to be a strip club? But gogo bars and strip clubs are basically the same damn thing! Only difference is that you can fuck the chicks there at the strip clubs, whereas a gogo bar you have to pay to take them out. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Dudes buying drinks. Dudes buying drinks for chicks. Chicks dancing on a stage. Gogo bar is just what strip clubs in Asia are called.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2396965]Yes PN sad news about Hotel Botero not allowing the vennies anymore but as you point out there are other places to pound away in and 10 mil for each girl for hotel use won't break the bank.

I bet you have much to report on. Keep them happy for me until my return.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2401708]Photo Prepagos is a tool I really never thought of using. I wonder if we could get some input from other men who have used it?

We have plenty of posts concerning FB, and Tinder, and Colombia Cupid, but not much on Photo Prepagos.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've used them before, several times. They are a fine service but I also think it depends on the time of mongerer you are. For me being told this much for an HR is a buzz kill. So whether its a fb girl or a regular non pro I meet in the streets I prefer a more natural and organic time together. Though admittedly knowing that girl a, is close to my airbnb and will be open to doing this or that does make it easy when you're just trying to get one off. I've found some decent talent off sites like that but again if you're looking for a more natural GFE type of vibe you may not find it there, though again your mileage may vary.

I don't use Tinder as I've heard too many horror stories though I've also heard many good things.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2401836]To each their own. That said, this sounds like a lot of rationalization to me.

Lets start with the assumption that paying $200 US makes this hassle free. Or guarantees you better service.

Umh. Don't know what to tell you. Ain't true and just read the experiences of some who
have posted about their gustos experiences contrasted with their online hookups.

Minimal time investment? How about the time to get ready go to Gustos and pick out your
selection, settle on a rate and get her back to your place.
Now if you like the process of doing that, then fine, but time efficient? Nothing beats a casa
for that.

What about ordering up a chica via PP or Fb or whatever internet tool you use, that really can't
be beat efficiency wise, you just fuck them when they arrive while waiting in the comfort if your room. Lol

But like everyone seems to agree, each person seems to have their preferred way and there is
no point to the discussion as everyone will think they do it best.

Just go with what works for you. Medellin is great cuz it is like a buffet.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to analyze through my mid-night scramble. Sorry if some of my arguments confused you. The whole premise of my argument is base on clubbing in places such as Gusto. In Gusto, it is hassle free (relatively) and time efficient to find the right girl if I'm willing to pay 200 dollars. I'm perfectly aware of other day-time options such as casas and massage parlors, and I had about 10 FB girls on my weekly rotation before I left Medellin a few weeks ago (I typically pay fb girls 150-300 k pesos).

In terms of service, I only had one casa girl refused BBBJ and DFK, and I easily been with 50+ girls in Medellin. I can either attribute my success to my irresistible charm or the fact that I'm willing to pay more. I wish it is the former but in my heart I knew it is the latter.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2401850]I totally agree. I tried that shit one time. It was my youngest brother's first time to Thailand so I said we will ball out. I had some friends there too. We were in the club and I bought a few $100 bottles of liquor. That shit was gone in about 5 seconds. Only experience I got from it was walking out of there $500 poorer. Never again. My place is playing the background; low key, on the creep, with maybe a club soda or diet coke in my hand. Then when the time is right, I strike. I don't have a need to be seen or to impress anyone. Not my idea of a good time.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is about been seen by other people. For me, it is more about dancing, partying and having a good time with like minded people. In a way, it is almost like celebrating the common happiness of humanity. Anyways, it is a relatively expensive activity, but some people can afford it and like to party. My week day nights in Medellin are primarily filled with fb girls; I normally work and read all night, and I will typically arrange 2-4 fb girls per night, they will come between 8 pm to 2 am. It is somewhat an art to align the schedule correctly. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are party nights for me. Let the party people be fools and paid the 150-200 dollar price tag in Gusto.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401838]I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.[/QUOTE]The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401838]I am a little late responding to this post but I missed it until now. First I want to thank you for taking the time to mark the places on this image, that is a huge help. My first question is about Raudal. You say it is hit or miss, is it generally worth checking at a certain time of day? Why do you call it the Raudal block? I noticed a couple of businesses have Raudal in their names but Google Maps has only the street numbers on the streets.[/QUOTE]I only go in the day since I don't fancy walking around Centro at night too much and since there are less women in that block the chances of the hot ones not being there or busy is higher. But I have found hotter ones there then the Vera Cruz strip but only sometimes. Basically the girls are on the NW & NE corners of Carr 54 and Ave De Greiff (calle 53) and about half way down the block to the north on both sides of Carr 54. I call it the Raudal block since most the girls are on the corner below the "Raudal and. 3" sign on the building. And since it's only 2 blocks from Vera Cruz I always walk thru both.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2401920]The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area.[/QUOTE]"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2401920]The Raudal area is like two blocks away from the Museum and I am sure you have located it. Very similar to the area behind the Church with it's row of bars and upstairs short time Hotels and in my opinion the same and no different than the area behind the Church. However, see Wolf's post about his observations in this area, as he has a little different "take" on this area.[/QUOTE]Only differences I've seen is Vera Cruz will have up to 50 chicks, check ID there, Raudal will have a more mature crowd of 10-15 with more likely to see breast and butt jobs if you like them enhanced. But sometimes neither area will have hotties, luck of the draw.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402050]"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.[/QUOTE]Avenida Cundimarca aka Carr 53 between Calle 51 and Calle 52 is the main Vera Cruz strip with girls both sides of the road and in the bars, other around the corners both sides of the church, the trannies seem to hang out in front to the left of the church, the ones you really need to card seem to hang on the SE corner of Carr 53 and Calle 52, more women at the west edge of plaza Botero.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402050] I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.[/QUOTE]Also I think I see something I like about 1 trip in 4, so it helps to make multiple laps per day which is why I like staying 2 blocks from there.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402050]"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.[/QUOTE]Start at Botero Plaza, in front of the Museum, facing the Museum. Turn left. Conejitas should now be behind you. Walk. Throughout the Plaza you should see the Venezuelans, mostly hanging around in groups of 2 or 3.

Once you reach the old white church, it will be on your right, turn right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. There's a pedestrian alley along the south side of the church. Starting at the wall in front of the southeast corner of the church you'll spot working girls. Some will be trannies. Walk down the alley to the next street. At the corner there will be a casino on your left and a bakery on your right. This is the beginning of the Veracruz block.

Just south of the casino there's a stairwell that often has several working girls in it. There's nothing else in that direction. If you cross the street, just past the corner there will sometimes be girls on either side, but I've never seen any who were at all attractive to me. Turn right. Walk north. There will be girls on both sides of the street. On the east side, the girls end at the south end of the museum. On rare occasions I've seen a couple of girls behind the museum. On the west side the girls end at the big parking lot (it's behind the tall hedges). Occasionally there will be a few girls around the parking lot. They have always appeared to be glue sniffers to me.

At this point, if you turn right, you'll return to Botero Plaza with the Museum on your left. Instead, continue north until you reach the next street cross the street. If you turn right you'll reach Conejitas. You'll also pass by Taberna Victoria, a never reviewed strip club.

Instead, turn left. Walk one block. You'll pass by Excalibur casino. Just before the corner you'll start seeing the working girls. That's where you'll find the tall brunette with the Barbie body that Wolf662 called one of his favorites. About half the time she's showing so much tit one or both nipples are out. At the corner, there's a bar on both sides. The west side is usually where the biggest group of women will be. Turn right. There will be women on both sides for about half a block. This is the Raudal area. There's nothing to be seen if you continue north. If at the corner you continue west there's one tiny bar where you'll see a few girls. Always looked pretty rough to me. There's nothing more to the west.

Starting 1 block east of the Raudal corner are a couple of streets of bars. You'll find girls in most of the bars. They're there to get you to buy drinks. Some are available, some aren't. If you're at the Raudal corner, turn around. Head East 1 block and turn left. On the left side you'll see Taberna Hilton, another never reviewed strip club. Bars will be on both sides of the street for 1 block. At the corner, on the right, is a small plaza area. There's a diagonal walking street leading south from the plaza, with produce stands down the middle. There are several more bars on the south side. The next street to the east also has several bars and 1 more never mentioned strip club.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402050]"Behind the church" - is this what appears on Google Maps as Calle 51 A? Or, is it what is shown as Avenida Cundimarca? The latter, I have experienced, but only window shopping at what some members have indicated is not prime time. I have cruised the area, but feel like I am missing what others find intriguing. I also don't think I have walked the extra block to Raudal.

I guess, in the end, New Life is always a 10 minute walk away.[/QUOTE]Don't know the name of the street but I'm pretty sure you found it if you walked down the pedestrian walkway with the "glass" covering the drainage system. And based on your take of the area you walked around, you "personally", didn't miss anything intriguing, whereas others like myself find the place intriguing.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2259101]Switch your sim card to Movistar.

I did not have any trouble with my maps.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Panama city?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2402063]Instead, turn left. Walk one block. You'll pass by Excalibur casino. Just before the corner you'll start seeing the working girls. That's where you'll find the tall brunette with the Barbie body that Wolf662 called one of his favorites. About half the time she's showing so much tit one or both nipples are out. At the corner, there's a bar on both sides.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you know the Raudal / Avenida de la Grief area like the back of your hand. An excellent write up and directions for the area. I can only imagine a "Monger's" version of Google Maps, when the speaker giving directions say's, "when you pass by the Excalibur Casino, and just before the corner, look for a tall brunette with one or both nipples hanging out and that's where you'll see the working girls.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2401866]So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Hotel zona rosa and. Hotel Boulevard, right behind the church on carrera 52. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2401866]So what is the go-to hotel now that Ayenda Botero is bust? And what is a Vennie? Venezuelan? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Well I think Pollo Negro said they just weren't allowing the Venezuelan chicks in, Colombian women with ID's should be fine, just rent a room for 2 guests.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2401861]Isn't that what Gusto's is?

Scratching my head. You want a place like a gogo bar, but you don't want it to be a strip club? But gogo bars and strip clubs are basically the same damn thing! Only difference is that you can fuck the chicks there at the strip clubs, whereas a gogo bar you have to pay to take them out. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Dudes buying drinks. Dudes buying drinks for chicks. Chicks dancing on a stage. Gogo bar is just what strip clubs in Asia are called.[/QUOTE]If Gustos was like Habanos I'd be there most every night. Ok yes it's a bar selling drinks that has chicas available. But it's there to serve a niche market of guys which is almost none of us on this forum. So we use Facebook instead.

Not sure if you've tried the strip clubs Mr. E but the service is very mechanical with clock watching chicas waiting for the hour to end. And BBBJ is often not available even with a substantial propina. As you know in SE Asia you negotiate with the girl what you want and generally receive great service back in your own apartment and bed. And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.

I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2402301]If Gustos was like Habanos I'd be there most every night. Ok yes it's a bar selling drinks that has chicas available. But it's there to serve a niche market of guys which is almost none of us on this forum. So we use Facebook instead.

Not sure if you've tried the strip clubs Mr. E but the service is very mechanical with clock watching chicas waiting for the hour to end. And BBBJ is often not available even with a substantial propina. As you know in SE Asia you negotiate with the girl what you want and generally receive great service back in your own apartment and bed. And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2402323]I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?[/QUOTE]As much as you would like to settle this, as long as the Medellin thread contains everything under the sun, with no breakout like in other Countries on ISG, everybody is just going to have to deal with it. I'm sure the FB guys, and I have nothing against them, have to be tired of listening to all the "babble" regarding the SW scene, and vice-versa in regards to the Fay Boo "babble".

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2402323]I will settle this. OK, facebook is great for those who like it. For others, it's not so great. Can we move on now, please?[/QUOTE]Bingo. They are all different tools available. Use what works best for you. Share info and happy mongering.

I finally made it to La Isla, last night, a Thursday. My initial plan was to maybe hit Bendito Seas for Ladies Night / Open Bar, and then make my way up the hill after I had a few drinks. Well, I got stuck in Ay Wey Bar for awhile because of the rain. I also read a review posted by an ISG member that said go around 10-11 p on Thursday. So, I did.

10 k cover.

300 k 40-45 mins.

22 k Club Colombia.

The girls don't seem to care much if you paid attention to their dance, let alone if you were even there, yet. So, I'd say have a stack of 2 k bills in your pocket, ready to hand out. It can be irritating, but it's not worth the effort to haggle over 75 cents. The girls are somewhat pushy for drinks, as well, but maybe it depends on the girl. The moms tend to be more of the hustlers, when it comes to that. I bought some drinks for a couple girls from Bello, but eventually got tired of the sales pitch. I ended up going with a couple girls that were bubbly and sucking each other's nipples to inspire me. As usual, another threesome that was over-promised and under-delivered, as far as the girl-to-girl performance is concerned. These two definitely were not the best looking girls in the place, but they had a chemistry together that I thought might be fun. One was the saleswoman, the other was the quiet freak. It was ok, but for the price, certainly not worth it. The first girl by the bar said 800 k for take-out. I told her that was ridiculous, and I could get 4-5 girls in Lleras at that price. She shit-talked Lleras girls, which was sort of comical.

By the end of the night, it was almost 900 k for Uber, entry, drinks, and 3 some. Room was ok, probably not the best in town, but definitely not the worst. I always hate the moment when I take my socks off haha. I couldn't finish the 2nd round, before the cleaning lady was banging on the door. No BBBJ, and a little bit of a rush to put the condom on, which always kills me. I made fun of the girls for giving me a HJ like a HS kid whose parents went to the grocery store.

I forget my experience at Fase II, years ago, so I can't really comment as to which is better, but I think La Isla is a little bigger and maybe feels cleaner / classier in the bar / stage / lounge areas. Based on what the Uber driver said, I think Fase II is also a little cheaper. Overall, a pretty decent group of girls, and plenty to choose from. I think at 300 k, many guys willing to spend the extra amount would be happy. There were a few gringos that must have had close to 20 girls whooping it up with shots, all night, then probably took 5-8 for take-out. I didn't see many dark girls, if some members are into that. There was certainly a variety, but that stuck out, to me.

I think I will use JjBee62's treasure map, this afternoon. Special thanks for that. WorldTraveler69's map is on my phone, but the detail on this specific area was fantastic.

Petite Blonde returns to MDE, today, so I've got some decisions to make before my Monday departure. I think a Centro, and possibly New Life, journey today will help my mind balance last night's charges.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2402169]Well I think Pollo Negro said they just weren't allowing the Venezuelan chicks in, Colombian women with ID's should be fine, just rent a room for 2 guests.[/QUOTE]My Colombian friends could come over without any issues! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402352]As much as you would like to settle this, as long as the Medellin thread contains everything under the sun, with no breakout like in other Countries on ISG, everybody is just going to have to deal with it. I'm sure the FB guys, and I have nothing against them, have to be tired of listening to all the "babble" regarding the SW scene, and vice-versa in regards to the Fay Boo "babble".[/QUOTE]I don't mind any of it. For me, every post is either a chance to learn something, or a chance to help someone. I first got to Medellin thinking Energy spa was the best option available. If I'd come 2 years earlier, I would have thought it was the Mayorista area. 6 months later, it would have been New Life.

At some point, every possible method or location for getting laid, has been the best deal in Medellin. Right now Facebook is popular. In a few months it will be something else.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402096]Sounds like you know the Raudal / Avenida de la Grief area like the back of your hand. An excellent write up and directions for the area. I can only imagine a "Monger's" version of Google Maps, when the speaker giving directions say's, "when you pass by the Excalibur Casino, and just before the corner, look for a tall brunette with one or both nipples hanging out and that's where you'll see the working girls.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit of an information junkie. I wanted to know what El Centro was really like. I walked the streets, hit some of the casas, went into the shopping malls, although mall might be the wrong word. I even spent 2 nights at the Mansion, just to learn about it. If I remember correctly, I even hit a couple of casas on Christmas day. Weak lineups, but a few were open.

I'm also a voyeur. Once I got over my fear of El Centro, it became my go-to place to unwind. I covered just about every street from Oriental down to 3 blocks west of Raudal and between San Antonio and Prado metro stations. I hit the girl zones 3 or 4 times a day, just enjoying the eye candy.

As for directions, before smart phones and Google maps I had to call for directions several times a week, all over the US. Alabama directions were always like:

"When you come to the stoplight by the Burger King, that's where Jim Billy Bubba had his Cadillac dealership, back before it burnt down. He sure did love his Cadillacs. At that light you go straight to the next light. There used to be a house there with a big white dog. That dog barked at everyone. One day it ran out and barked at Miss Edna and she whacked it with her cane."

Twenty minutes later I'd decipher the directions to "go to the third light, turn right, we're the second building on the right."

Wow very impressive man!! Just like I remembered it. Keep in mind guys this whole area is very sketchy watch your pockets and dress down, no valuables. The 2 strip clubs you're talking about actually has been mentioned. Just in many thread past. Those strip clubs are hit or miss. But I'm sure with the influx of the Venies, competition should be in our favor. All the other bars are hostess bars. Girl get payed to drink and dance with you. If you have good game and speak Spanish you will do very well in these bars. I have had very good luck there. Just get there number and setup a date. Keep in mind guys that all theses bars 3 or 4 years ago were all Colombianas. Now almost all the hostess bars are Venies. The makings of a lot of resentment and competition.

ALWAYS WATCH YOUR DRINK!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2402063]Start at Botero Plaza, in front of the Museum, facing the Museum. Turn left. Conejitas should now be behind you. Walk. Throughout the Plaza you should see the Venezuelans, mostly hanging around in groups of 2 or 3.

Once you reach the old white church, it will be on your right, turn right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. There's a pedestrian alley along the south side of the church. Starting at the wall in front of the southeast corner of the church you'll spot working girls. Some will be trannies. Walk down the alley to the next street. At the corner there will be a casino on your left and a bakery on your right. This is the beginning of the Veracruz block.

Just south of the casino there's a stairwell that often has several working girls in it. There's nothing else in that direction. If you cross the street, just past the corner there will sometimes be girls on either side, but I've never seen any who were at all attractive to me. Turn right. Walk north. There will be girls on both sides of the street. On the east side, the girls end at the south end of the museum. On rare occasions I've seen a couple of girls behind the museum. On the west side the girls end at the big parking lot (it's behind the tall hedges). Occasionally there will be a few girls around the parking lot. They have always appeared to be glue sniffers to me.

At this point, if you turn right, you'll return to Botero Plaza with the Museum on your left. Instead, continue north until you reach the next street cross the street. If you turn right you'll reach Conejitas. You'll also pass by Taberna Victoria, a never reviewed strip club..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402390]I finally made it to La Isla, last night, a Thursday. My initial plan was to maybe hit Bendito Seas for Ladies Night / Open Bar, and then make my way up the hill after I had a few drinks. Well, I got stuck in Ay Wey Bar for awhile because of the rain. I also read a review posted by an ISG member that said go around 10-11 p on Thursday. So, I did.

10 k cover.

300 k 40-45 mins.

22 k Club Colombia.

The girls don't seem to care much if you paid attention to their dance, let alone if you were even there, yet. So, I'd say have a stack of 2 k bills in your pocket, ready to hand out. It can be irritating, but it's not worth the effort to haggle over 75 cents. The girls are somewhat pushy for drinks, as well, but maybe it depends on the girl. The moms tend to be more of the hustlers, when it comes to that. I bought some drinks for a couple girls from Bello, but eventually got tired of the sales pitch. I ended up going with a couple girls that were bubbly and sucking each other's nipples to inspire me. As usual, another threesome that was over-promised and under-delivered, as far as the girl-to-girl performance is concerned. These two definitely were not the best looking girls in the place, but they had a chemistry together that I thought might be fun. One was the saleswoman, the other was the quiet freak. It was ok, but for the price, certainly not worth it. The first girl by the bar said 800 k for take-out. I told her that was ridiculous, and I could get 4-5 girls in Lleras at that price. She shit-talked Lleras girls, which was sort of comical.

By the end of the night, it was almost 900 k for Uber, entry, drinks, and 3 some. Room was ok, probably not the best in town, but definitely not the worst. I always hate the moment when I take my socks off haha. I couldn't finish the 2nd round, before the cleaning lady was banging on the door. No BBBJ, and a little bit of a rush to put the condom on, which always kills me. I made fun of the girls for giving me a HJ like a HS kid whose parents went to the grocery store.[/QUOTE]Good report. Yes The Tall Man has played in La Isla in days gone by, seriously the last time was there was probably 3 year ago and it just doesn't float my boat any more.

Agree that the rooms are not bad but not necessarily good neither, that is for the price of 300 mil for 45 minutes, no thanks.

So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.

Friday night after having dinner in Provenza I decided check out the talent Parque Lleras. I arrived around 10 PM and took a few laps around and within the Park. I saw at least two dozen girls working, they were either sitting alone, in pairs, walking, etc. And there were some very pretty ones out. I got approached by three girls, chit chatted with them, and told one of them in Spanish that I wasn't horny to get her to go away. Another one asked me where I was going and I said to my apartment and she asked me if she could come over, but I told her no. I didn't ask any of the girls how much they wanted as I wasn't interested, and found it refreshing compared to "ground zero" in El Centro as the majority of the girls were dressed very nice versus in rags. For guys who like to party, hit the bars, and speak a fair amount of Spanish, I can see this venue being something to try out on a weekend night. I have been through the Park during the evenings other than Thursday to Saturday and it can be pretty dead so wouldn't recommend going there then.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2402480]................So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I will never buy one of those flash lights otherwise I may have difficulty getting it up in a casa or short time motel. As a matter of fact I may even have problems getting comfortable in my hotel room.

Yes, years ago.

I made a Map for it.

Too expensive for me.

[QUOTE=FunGuy12;2402077]Have you been to Panama city?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I saw a news feature on American television something like 20 years ago about black inspection of hotel rooms. The reporter did it in various classes of hotels and they all lit up. So that is the deal. I like to keep my socks on a lot.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2402480]Good report. Yes The Tall Man has played in La Isla in days gone by, seriously the last time was there was probably 3 year ago and it just doesn't float my boat any more.

Agree that the rooms are not bad but not necessarily good neither, that is for the price of 300 mil for 45 minutes, no thanks.

So a few years ago I bought one of those special flash lights with a black light type of bulb, its purpose is to inspect hotel room beds and sheets / pillows and floors for bodily fluids. Well guess what I brought it with me a few times (it is very compact w /3 AAA batteries) and I inspected a number of the motels and working girl houses along with even regular hotel rooms and guess what? They all light up like a Christmas tree on December 25, all of them do, all beds / sheets / rugs / towels are completely stained with jizz and piss, disgusting.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford. Several younger males with visible injuries / wounds, etc. Anyhow, all the one-way streets made it a little difficult, so I cruised past Raudal once on my moto, and another on foot. Nothing worth stopping for, at the time (Friday mid-afternoon). Veracruz was also disappointing, as usual, for me. There was one young Paisa from Robledo that would have been The One, if I decided to partake. I almost did, just to try it, but for as cute as her face was, I couldn't. Beautiful eyes, pierced nose / lip, skinny, but unshaved legs, ghetto tattoos, and quoted 40 k. I was drawn to her, but if she was working at New Life, I'd probably choose some one else, and if she was at any other more expensive club / location, I'd definitely not pick her. I popped into Conejitas, which was surprisingly slow for a Friday; maybe because it was about 4 p, and the blue collar workers weren't clocked-out, yet. Then, I picked up my freshly-washed moto, and went to New Life. There was a really sexy girl named Daniella, who got swooped right before I could utter her name. I actually had a feeling this would happen, as there were maybe 7-8 guys in the waiting area. The mamasan lady disappeared, and I lost out. Second choice was easy. Isabella (I think). I actually flagged down the mamasan, at this point, because it would have been a significant drop-off to #3. 20 yo, lighter hair, good body, tattoos, and she was a good time. 60 k with a beer.

I then went to Parque Sabaneta to see the Christmas Lights, and it was absolutely packed. My Uber took the side streets the whole way, which took forever. I don't understand why he wouldn't use the highway (anyone?). It was around 830 p, so I don't think the license plate driving restriction thing would be in affect. I had a couple beers, snapped some pics, and then got a cab to Envigado. I wanted to try Lucio Carbon y Vino, but the kitchen was closed. Another place said the same, so my buddy and I just came back to Lleras. 37 Park was buzzing, but a little too gringo touristy for me. Meal was decent, and then we posted up at Beer Store for a couple. The previously-mentioned petite blonde made an appearance, in Lleras. She was walking around with another good-looking girl. I went with my buddy to The Deck, which wasn't bad. Kind of cool decor and vibe. I was getting tired, as was the Petite Blonde, who had forced my Colombian buddy to take her number, let her know when I want to go home, and make sure I didn't take anyone else. So, we met her and headed back to my apartment. Another free TLN. She's been on the rag for like 10 days. It just shows up while we're fucking. She said she had one of those injected contraceptives, and hadn't had a period in a year, so that's why it's a little off, right now. Thankfully, she literally just went to the doctor and got her papers. That being said, going BB with a PP and seeing sangre isn't exactly the best way to spend your morning. Though, she's cute, fun, and cleans my place up before she leaves.

Two nights left, and not quite sure what I want to do.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402728]Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford.

Another free TLN. She's been on the rag for like 10 days. It just shows up while we're fucking. She said she had one of those injected contraceptives, and hadn't had a period in a year, so that's why it's a little off, right now. Thankfully, she literally just went to the doctor and got her papers. That being said, going BB with a PP and seeing sangre isn't exactly the best way to spend your morning. Though, she's cute, fun, and cleans my place up before she leaves.

Two nights left, and not quite sure what I want to do.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You most definitely have been making the most of your time here in Medellin going from Zombieland to LLeras and than a free TLN yesterday and Isla the day before. I like the way you roll, lots of different variety and can only imagine if you had a Harley to cruise around on in ZombieLand.

As far as the "half living species" you noticed, well they typically use glue or what's called Pegamente here and it has a solvents in it, and they are referred to as "Sacaleros" as they put the glue in a bag and inhale the fumes. Approximately three years ago there used to be what's known as "Sacalero Row" on the walkway beside the Museum where all the working Sacalero girls would hang out like a bunch of Groupies. There were actually some pretty hot ones back then, but all typically skinny with a stench to them and most of the the time in a Zombie Trance, exactly as you described them.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401890]Let the party people be fools and paid the 150-200 dollar price tag in Gusto.[/QUOTE]This is an ISG ritual for Medellin newbies when it involves Gusto girls. You gathered all the info beforehand and decide to pay to get what you want. I think you did great and I enjoy your reports.

Strictly speaking, you paid $150 to the girl for TLN, not $200 for short time.

You get around. I'm surprised you had trouble finding a restaurant at that time of day in Envigado. It's become a foodie destination the past couple of years. I hope you check out some of the hipster restaurants in the barrio Milan near El Poblado and let us know what you think.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2402728]Yesterday, I went on a mission to check out Veracruz / Botero (again) and find Raudal. Well, I went on my moto, so that I could take a gander without being the idiot gringo on his phone, looking at JjBee62's directions. WOW. Cruising through ZombieLand is surreal. Just north of Raudal and east of there to El Hueco (north of Conejitas) is rough. Half-living species all whacked-out on shoe glue, paint, and whatever else they can afford. Several younger males with visible injuries / wounds, etc. Anyhow, all the one-way streets made it a little difficult, so I cruised past Raudal once on my moto, and another on foot. Nothing worth stopping for, at the time (Friday mid-afternoon). Veracruz was also disappointing, as usual, for me. There was one young Paisa from Robledo that would have been The One, if I decided to partake. I almost did, just to try it, but for as cute as her face was, I couldn't. Beautiful eyes, pierced nose / lip, skinny, but unshaved legs, ghetto tattoos, and quoted 40 k. I was drawn to her, but if she was working at New Life, I'd probably choose some one else, and if she was at any other more expensive club / location, I'd definitely not pick her. I popped into Conejitas, which was surprisingly slow for a Friday; maybe because it was about 4 p, and the blue collar workers weren't clocked-out, yet. Then, I picked up my freshly-washed moto, and went to New Life. There was a really sexy girl named Daniella, who got swooped right before I could utter her name. I actually had a feeling this would happen, as there were maybe 7-8 guys in the waiting area. The mamasan lady disappeared, and I lost out. Second choice was easy. Isabella (I think). I actually flagged down the mamasan, at this point, because it would have been a significant drop-off to #3. 20 yo, lighter hair, good body, tattoos, and she was a good time. 60 k with a beer..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2402301] And again this is what FB is useful to get in Medellin.

FB provides the venue to negotiate a GFE session at a reasonable price in Medellin the same way we do this at Habanos or a beer bar / agogo in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I am coming to Medellin in February and am keenly keeping track of this thread and doing some RTTF. To help, can anyone tell mr a good date range where I can find out how to start aquiring FB contacts? Or specific posters to search?

Thanks.

(oh and if anyone wants to do some MFM encounters with some open minded chicas. I'm down. LOL).

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2402772]You get around. I'm surprised you had trouble finding a restaurant at that time of day in Envigado. It's become a foodie destination the past couple of years. I hope you check out some of the hipster restaurants in the barrio Milan near El Poblado and let us know what you think.[/QUOTE]I think you meant to say Barrio "Manila" not Milan, and it is in Poblado, and if your going up Calle 10, it is directly opposite the EXITO as your headed up the hill to your left and is bounded by Avenida Las Vegas and Avenida Poblado. Lot's of restaurants in this area as you mentioned, and a short walking distance from the Poblado Metro Station.

Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. As far as money in my wallet, well a couple of hundred mil which means nothing to me versus losing my USA cell phone. So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.

[QUOTE=Foxwilly;2402836]I am coming to Medellin in February and am keenly keeping track of this thread and doing some RTTF. To help, can anyone tell mr a good date range where I can find out how to start aquiring FB contacts? Or specific posters to search?

Thanks.

(oh and if anyone wants to do some MFM encounters with some open minded chicas. I'm down. LOL).[/QUOTE]I was going to message you but you're not a paid member. But to answer your fb question I'the say 2 weeks out is plenty of time. Once they know you're there they will be ready to pounce on you.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2402931]I was going to message you but you're not a paid member. But to answer your fb question I'the say 2 weeks out is plenty of time. Once they know you're there they will be ready to pounce on you.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Is this with that new Facebook dating app?

Otherwise, how do they know when I am going to be in Colombia.

I have been looking into buying a paid membership but I am travellling in Mexico right now and shit that process looks like a pain in the ass.

I forgot to turn off the auto correct. It gets me every time I forget to turn it off.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402909]I think you meant to say Barrio "Manila" not Milan, and it is in Poblado, and if your going up Calle 10, it is directly opposite the EXITO as your headed up the hill to your left and is bounded by Avenida Las Vegas and Avenida Poblado. Lot's of restaurants in this area as you mentioned, and a short walking distance from the Poblado Metro Station.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924] So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE]Surfer, glad you are ok. These types of robberies are not uncommon. There are many reports that people are robbed in taxis by robbers riding motorcycles. I don't think there is any easy way to predict when and where it will happen.

[QUOTE=Foxwilly;2402958]Thanks.

Is this with that new Facebook dating app?

Otherwise, how do they know when I am going to be in Colombia.

I have been looking into buying a paid membership but I am travellling in Mexico right now and shit that process looks like a pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]This has been covered about 20 times. You need to add girls to your friend list. You can search the forum for "friends" and find posts telling you how to find girls. Some will message you immediately, some you'll need to message. There's no need to send messages until you're close to arrival.

Once you arrive, post a message and picture tagging yourself in Medellin. All the girls on your friend list will see it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you.[/QUOTE]Got damn Surf. What you doing in Poblado? You better take your ass back downtown where it is safe.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.[/QUOTE]And Poblado area to boot, wow good thing you handed everything they ask for over.

These thugs always target the lamb and weakest among the bunch, that's why they always rip off the chicas. They are not stupid and will almost never mess with a big tall guy like me, why? Because there is always weak / small / frail guys or a woman that are easy targets.

I can tell you all with certainty that just in the past 2 or 3 months I have had 3 friends (all Colombians living in Medellin) that I know personally get held up. But again we are close to x-mass and holidays.

Never ever let your awareness down, as you see it does not matter if your in Poblado or centro, if your a target then your a target.

Never become confident and complacent.

Good thing you only lost some physical items and a part of your ego.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2403083]Surfer, glad you are ok. These types of robberies are not uncommon. There are many reports that people are robbed in taxis by robbers riding motorcycles. I don't think there is any easy way to predict when and where it will happen.[/QUOTE]At a stop light in a taxi, you're an sitting target. Nothing you can do if someone points a gun in the back window. Walking with a chica IMO is also an inviting target.

These delinquents know what they're doing!

True that, I feel a lot safer driving myself or sitting in the front seat of an uber. In the back seat of a taxi I keep my phone out of sight.

[QUOTE=Combo;2403115]At a stop light in a taxi, you're an sitting target. Nothing you can do if someone points a gun in the back window. Walking with a chica IMO is also an inviting target.

These delinquents know what they're doing![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924] Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

[/QUOTE]Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2403184]Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me that speed was important to them. It would have taken more time to ask the gringo to empty his pockets, etc. They did not want to get off the moto, just grab and go.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2403184]Glad you are okay, sorry that this happened to you. Only a fool would put up a fight in that situation. Those guys are scum. I am shocked too that they targeted her instead of a gringo.[/QUOTE]Thank you and others (except Mr. E of course) for their concerns. It's an interesting question you ask as to why I wasn't targeted. My theory is, that since there were two of us, that it was easier for the ratero to just take my Chicas bag and run, versus telling me to fumble around and empty my pockets. My Chica told me that way more women get ripped off than men here. So I suspect as to what happened to me, they may have just decided to get the bag, versus having a potential confrontation with a male. Additionally, I am not an obvious "gringo" looks wise as I don't have blond hair and blue eyes, and have been told by Colombians that I can pass as a Colombian, at least with with my mouth shut. So perhaps in this situation, if it had been an obvious gringo, the Ratero might of said empty your pockets, etc. As one might assume a gringo may have more things of value on them. I really don't know as it happened so quick.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. This all happened in less than ten seconds and there wasn't much I could do about it. We were sitting ducks on a deserted street during a heavy downpour, and were unaware of our surroundings as we were walking with are heads down trying to figure out where to step. I was surprised that the thief didn't ask me to empty my pockets which I asked my Chica about, and she said for some reason women with bags seem to be targeted versus the men. I suspect that's because the thieves assume that a woman may not put up a fight, versus a man might. Regardless, if any one has a gun, I'm not going to put up a fight. So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. As far as money in my wallet, well a couple of hundred mil which means nothing to me versus losing my USA cell phone. So not only do we have to worry about the Chicas ripping us off, here's just something else to be concerned about. It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE]I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2403100]Got damn Surf. What you doing in Poblado? You better take your ass back downtown where it is safe.[/QUOTE]Your'e right as always Mr. E.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2403266]I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.[/QUOTE]I was there eight days in November and did not experience any problems. Then again I don't go out late at night preferring to hole up early with my chosen chica for the evening.

Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. ......... So my Chica got her bag stolen, she had 40 Mil on her, a cheap cell phone, and some clothes in her bag, and her Cedula as well taken.

Lessons learned, if I had been asked to empty my pockets, I would of been totally hosed as I had my USA I phone with me, versus my Colombian burner phone. ...... [/QUOTE]Appreciate your sharing. I wonder if Laureles is much safer or not. I often carry everything around in a slash proof, zipper locking pacsafe shoulder bag. I'm 6' tall, with light hair, blue eyes and I do not blend down here. I have long thought pick pockets are the greatest danger. Guess I got to rethink that. I have taken to leaving my ATM debit card in the room and only taking it out when I got to do an ATM run.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2401456]I have to say that on my next trip I might stay in Laureles because a person can save some serious money by doing so, but that being said, if money was not an object than it still depends on other factors. Which means of mongering are you going to be most likely to partake in? I primarily used FB and some tender and picked up some SWs in Parque LLeras. Energy was perfect for me. The building has good security which I respect not so much for my safety but for keeping me out of trouble if you know what I mean. For the square footage though you can probably find something for half the price in Laureles. But it definitely will not have the views that you get from the roof pool area of Energy,[/QUOTE]If you stayed in Laureles would you still go to Lleras Park and pick up SW and bring them back to your spot? (In Laureles) Is that doable, or can you find a short time spot right there near the park? I'm gathering intel, since I'm new to the Medellin Forum. I will go back about 6 to 12 months and catch up on the forum. I'm staying in the Laureles area. I'll be there almost a month late Jan until Feb. I also intend to visit Cartegena while I'm in Colombia. I hear it's a short flight from Medellin.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2403265]Thank you and others (except Mr. E of course) for their concerns. It's an interesting question you ask as to why I wasn't targeted. My theory is, that since there were two of us, that it was easier for the ratero to just take my Chicas bag and run, versus telling me to fumble around and empty my pockets. My Chica told me that way more women get ripped off than men here. So I suspect as to what happened to me, they may have just decided to get the bag, versus having a potential confrontation with a male. Additionally, I am not an obvious "gringo" looks wise as I don't have blond hair and blue eyes, and have been told by Colombians that I can pass as a Colombian, at least with with my mouth shut. So perhaps in this situation, if it had been an obvious gringo, the Ratero might of said empty your pockets, etc. As one might assume a gringo may have more things of value on them. I really don't know as it happened so quick.[/QUOTE]I agree with your suspicions. These types of robberies are grab and go. Getting her bag probably took 2 seconds. Getting your stuff would have taken much longer. If you had been walking alone they may have passed you by. Or not.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2403266]I can't remember how many times I posted that Poblado was the most dangerous part of MDE for tourists. Not only the ripoffs by thugs. But also murders { tourists } occur there more than any other part of the city. I don't know why I preach about this as I should just let the new fellows just go there to be over charged for everything while they think they are safe from the harm they think is worse in other parts of the city.[/QUOTE]The main reason why more gringos are murdered in Poblado is because 80% of the gringos are in Poblado. You'll almost never hear of a gringo being killed in Paris or Manrique, because gringos don't go there. That doesn't mean those are safe places to be walking around at night. In case someone is confused, Paris is a barrio south and west of Bello. Ask your favorite chica about it sometime.

Generally speaking Poblado is safer than most of Medellin. The people with money live in Poblado. Too much crime in Poblado is bad for business. That doesn't mean you're safe. Personal safety is less about location and more about behavior.

People get a false sense of security in Poblado and let their guard down.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado. We were walking on the sidewalk along Carrea 46, about a block and a half away from the Poblado EXITO. We got caught in an unexpected downpour, and it was raining very hard as we were headed to Calle 10. While we were walking I had an umbrella to cover us and we had are heads down trying to figure out how not to step in the deeper puddles while we were walking. The street was deserted as there was nobody else out because of the heavy rainfall, and all of sudden a motorcycle pulls up with two guys on it, one guy gets off, put's a gun to my Chicas head, and say's give me your handbag or I will kill you. The guy takes the handbag, hops back on the Motorcycle, and they take off. [/QUOTE]For those who are not familiar with Medellin, that area is not near Parque Lleras. It is in Patio Bonito. There have been reports in the past (none recently that I have seen) warning about possible dangers there. For anyone staying in that area, take a taxi, especially if you are walking with a chica. In a taxi you don't need to be concerned about the rain, and you will be relatively safe. If you insist on walking, tell the chica to leave her bag in the hotel or apartment.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2403341]Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.[/QUOTE]To be fair, it has little to do with us being less weak. And everything to do with efficiency. They want to execute the robbery in a few seconds at most. A women's purse is about as quick and easy as it gets. It takes a lot longer to go through a guy's 4 or 5 different pockets. Not saying they won't do the latter -- it's just not as quick.

Agree on the deserted streets, even in nice neighborhoods like Poblado. If you have to walk on them, keep your head on a swivel and be ready to run. Or just take a taxi / uber.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402618]Friday night after having dinner in Provenza I decided check out the talent Parque Lleras. I arrived around 10 PM and took a few laps around and within the Park. I saw at least two dozen girls working, they were either sitting alone, in pairs, walking, etc. And there were some very pretty ones out. I got approached by three girls, chit chatted with them, and told one of them in Spanish that I wasn't horny to get her to go away. Another one asked me where I was going and I said to my apartment and she asked me if she could come over, but I told her no. I didn't ask any of the girls how much they wanted as I wasn't interested, and found it refreshing compared to "ground zero" in El Centro as the majority of the girls were dressed very nice versus in rags. For guys who like to party, hit the bars, and speak a fair amount of Spanish, I can see this venue being something to try out on a weekend night. I have been through the Park during the evenings other than Thursday to Saturday and it can be pretty dead so wouldn't recommend going there then.[/QUOTE]Adding to that there are many party friendly apartments in lleras now, you can step outside after 11 and you will see girls on cra 38 and infront of the clubs, myself and my baddies booked a decent place in lleras on Airbnb - [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/39367278?preview_for_ml=true&source_impression_id=p3_1572406591_96BEj5XPDQqP%2BB8M[/URL] - picked up chicas on the same street, specially on Friday, Saturday they stand outside the clubs smoking or just trying to make eye contact.

During weekdays it is pretty much dead the action starts Thru, Fri, Sat from 11 to 3 AM, lleras is also very safe as no motorcycles are allowed on some streets and good security.

It's not so easy to find taxis when it's raining hard. In Surfer's case, he mentioned he and the chica got caught in a sudden downpour, something that is not rare in Medellin, and the street became deserted suddenly. The scumbag bandits had the advantage of surprise. They likely realized they had the drop on the couple and could get close without being seen.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2403442]For those who are not familiar with Medellin, that area is not near Parque Lleras. It is in Patio Bonito. There have been reports in the past (none recently that I have seen) warning about possible dangers there. For anyone staying in that area, take a taxi, especially if you are walking with a chica. In a taxi you don't need to be concerned about the rain, and you will be relatively safe. If you insist on walking, tell the chica to leave her bag in the hotel or apartment.[/QUOTE]

Even with my limited spanish I can tell this obviously about community concern regarding sex tourism in Lleras Park (it is over a year old), anyone fluid in spanish care to convey the gist of what the residence being interviewed are saying?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGB5rZFCdH0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2402924]Saturday night at 7:30 PM I was with one of my regulars in Poblado....It's not safe anywhere in Medellin. Carry as little as possible with you, and always be aware of your surroundings, even when it's raining. There's some very cleaver thieves here, and they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this post. I'm sorry this happened to you and I'm glad that you are OK. I walked around Lleras almost every night for more than a month, most of the time I feel safe, mainly because I stayed in areas where there are a lot of people. Based on my experience, Poblado is still the safest area in Medellin, whenever I pick up a chica on the street, I either get a taxi to my apartment right away or I take her into bars and clubs in the park. Thanks for this warning post, I will never take a girl to walk around the empty streets of Poblado.

I will be in Medellin in about 2 weeks, right before New Year's day. Does anyone know any good place to party all night on December 31st?

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2403341]Stories like this is why you should never walk on any deserted street, it doesn't matter if it's in Poblado, Centro or anywhere else. The silver lining to this story is that nobody was injured & it seems that most of the stick up kids are cowards who only prey on the weak so we men will generally be less of a target, I feel bad for the Colombian women though.[/QUOTE]One should never let ones guard down no matter where you are. I once got robbed of a bag full of items I had bought to take back to the US on the penultimate day of a stay in Frankfurt, Germany. I rested the bag down on the sidewalk to take a photo and after I took the photo it was gone.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;2403477]Adding to that there are many party friendly apartments in lleras now, you can step outside after 11 and you will see girls on cra 38 and infront of the clubs, myself and my baddies booked a decent place in lleras on Airbnb - [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/39367278?preview_for_ml=true&source_impression_id=p3_1572406591_96BEj5XPDQqP%2BB8M[/URL] - picked up chicas on the same street, specially on Friday, Saturday they stand outside the clubs smoking or just trying to make eye contact.

During weekdays it is pretty much dead the action starts Thru, Fri, Sat from 11 to 3 AM, lleras is also very safe as no motorcycles are allowed on some streets and good security.[/QUOTE]You must really love this place because every post you make has a link to it. Are there any other properties you could recommend? Post them in the Hotel section, thanks.

I've been on this forum for a while but never posted anything. Just want to contributed something as I'm heading to Medellin and spend my Christmas vacation there.

I was searching for a nice hotel in El Poblado area, the Hotel Du Parc Royal got all my interests. Called in and spoke with a manager at front desk to confirm its visitors policy. Although I just asked "what if I bring a friend as a guest", he understood immediately, "Bringing a girl up is 130,000, in USD it's about $40." LOL.

Thus, I believe it's a girl friendly hotel, but $40 per visit on top of $100/ night Room Rate. Hummm. I'm not sure if worth it. Any thoughts?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2403375]If you stayed in Laureles would you still go to Lleras Park and pick up SW and bring them back to your spot? (In Laureles) Is that doable, or can you find a short time spot right there near the park? I'm gathering intel, since I'm new to the Medellin Forum. I will go back about 6 to 12 months and catch up on the forum. I'm staying in the Laureles area. I'll be there almost a month late Jan until Feb. I also intend to visit Cartegena while I'm in Colombia. I hear it's a short flight from Medellin.[/QUOTE]

Its possible but Lleras Park is not what I would have in mind, I actually only picked up there one night (three chicas in one night) Taxi from Lleras to Laureles is a good 30 minutes so she would have to be the last chica of the day. Staying in Laureles I was thinking more about using FB chicas, and I am also exploring options in Centro for checking out SWs there for part of my trip but I would definitely not be bringing those chicas to Laureles, so I am also exploring hotels in that area. When I picked up three chicas in one night in Lleras I was ten minutes from there by taxi. It is possible I might split my time between Laureles and Centro next trip but I am not focused on Mongering in Lleras Park if I do. My thinking is that if it is later in the night or very early in the night and you offer to pay the chicas taxi home or back to Lleras and she is the only chica you plan to hit that night, it is doable, just not super convenient. Never used a short time hotel but I am thinking that I have heard there are some in Poblado area (which is where Lleras is).

I am not familiar with Laureles, so you should research the forum concerning if there are any strip clubs or casas in that area, at a minimum you could hit these places and get numbers from chicas that you like. Many forum members like Laureles so they are making it work for them.

Yes the flight between Cartagena and Medellin is short like one hour fifteen minutes, depending on your luggage situation and how far in advance you book, you can conceivably find a round trip ticket for under $100 flying on a Colombian Airline.

A friend of mine stayed at Four Points Sheraton. He says that the hotel is chica friendly. They need to leave their ID at the front desk. He has told status with the hotel chain, not sure if that makes difference or not. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2403591]I will be in Medellin in about 2 weeks, right before New Year's day. Does anyone know any good place to party all night on December 31st?[/QUOTE]Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a date

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2403817]Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a date[/QUOTE]Thanks. I won't get in until the 30th. Are you sure the clubs in Lleras will be busy on the 31st? All my gusto-girl contacts are telling me they will spend New Year's Eve with family. Some girl is telling me about a penthouse party, but it seems like it's invite only. Do you know if the mansion or gusto is throwing a big party on the 31st, or will paradise be open?

I was in a crazy party in paradise on Columbus Day (it was a Sunday), they brought in a good DJ and opened until 11 am. Lots of working girls showed that night, they were in groups, very intoxicated and high, all they were interested in was dancing, which was a lot of fun. Half of the girls are normal girls who just want to party. Is there a similar party for New Year celebration?

[QUOTE=Cypolo;2403623]I've been on this forum for a while but never posted anything. Just want to contributed something as I'm heading to Medellin and spend my Christmas vacation there.

I was searching for a nice hotel in El Poblado area, the Hotel Du Parc Royal got all my interests. Called in and spoke with a manager at front desk to confirm its visitors policy. Although I just asked "what if I bring a friend as a guest", he understood immediately, "Bringing a girl up is 130,000, in USD it's about $40." LOL.

Thus, I believe it's a girl friendly hotel, but $40 per visit on top of $100/ night Room Rate. Hummm. I'm not sure if worth it. Any thoughts?

Thank you![/QUOTE]Maybe think about finding an apartment, any Hotel that charges $ 40 per visit isn't really girl friendly, and the Hotel makes a ton of money off of this, unless the employees or managers get this money which may be the case somehow. And the Hotel said there would be a fee of $ 40, even if you booked the room for two people on their website? Another thing you should consider doing wherever you land up, is always book a room for two people, than at least if it isn't clear about their policy, you have booked a room for two and would have to register the guest in and have an argument to avoid the guest fee, but that might be an issue bringing in multiple girls. Again, your best bet is to find an apartment, but security, etc. Can be issue depending on which building, and their policies. I don't know if this has helped much but hopefully things will work out for you and the Hotel section should provide you with a list of girl friendly places.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2403694]A friend of mine stayed at Four Points Sheraton. He says that the hotel is chica friendly. They need to leave their ID at the front desk. He has told status with the hotel chain, not sure if that makes difference or not. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I don't know how your buddy was able to get around that one. I called the hotel myself and they told me they charged a fee. And people on Tripadvisor posted the same thing as well. I'll post a pic of the review but one guy basically said if they are busy enough during the day they might just miss a girl coming up. Highly unlikely though. I tried this same stunt at the Marriott and it did not work. I brought the girl in when it was super busy. They didn't have a chance to ask about her or anything but about 15 minutes later they called my room telling me I had to register the guest. I am assuming I was being watched on camera because how else would they know what room I was in? I don't have Gold status but honestly I don't think it matters in Medellin. I will stop saying to post in the Medellin Hotel section LOL. I give up.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE[/URL]

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.

Not too exciting.

[URL]http://medellinbuzz.com/favorite-things-december-medellin/[/URL]


[URL]https://www.civitatis.com/en/medellin/chiva-rumbera-medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2403817]Chiva Bus from Hotel M on the 27th. I don't arrive til the 28th. Darn. All the bars will be open all night I'm sure on the 31st. I'll probably be on la 70 with a date[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2404022][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE[/URL]

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.[/QUOTE]This guy is insane, you never keep all your money in one place, always lock your cards, ID and passport in a combination safe. Never hide your shit in the same apartment. It's hard to believe they came back to rob him again. After seeing so many warning messages here, I will definitely take a lot of more precautions this time.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2403988]I don't know how your buddy was able to get around that one. I called the hotel myself and they told me they charged a fee. And people on Tripadvisor posted the same thing as well. I'll post a pic of the review but one guy basically said if they are busy enough during the day they might just miss a girl coming up. Highly unlikely though. I tried this same stunt at the Marriott and it did not work. I brought the girl in when it was super busy. They didn't have a chance to ask about her or anything but about 15 minutes later they called my room telling me I had to register the guest. I am assuming I was being watched on camera because how else would they know what room I was in? I don't have Gold status but honestly I don't think it matters in Medellin. I will stop saying to post in the Medellin Hotel section LOL. I give up.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying. I wouldn't post it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. I went to meet my friend at hotel to go out together. I was in the lobby trying to call him. The lobby guys in the meantime asked me who I was there for. I gave details, they checked my ID, but didn't keep it, and called him up to check it was OK to send me up. I went to the room. He and a girl were there. He introduced me to the girl. He said she was with him since last night. We left the room together and went to the attached mall where he got money for the girl from the ATM. We returned to the hotel lobby, where the girl picked up her ID. She took a cab and left. After that I specifically asked my buddy if he had to pay any extra fees to the hotel. He said no he didn't pay anything extra, and he was having one or two girls visit him or overnight with him everyday. They only had to leave ID at front desk. He said he stays at the same hotel Everytime and they let the girls in, and don't charge a fee. He has gold or higher status and always gets upgraded to a suite. He is also a generous tipper. I saw him tip the hotel manager or similar, 100 USD, so that may have something to do with it, but he tipper at checkout. So maybe they remembered him from last time. That's all I know about it. I have never tried it, I don't know what pull he has.

Any of you old timers remember her. Light skin, dark hair, raspy voice, great Bbbjs. From at least 7 years ago. She had a baby about 7 years ago. Anyone have contact info for her please pm me. I'm going and love to see her.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2404100]Any of you old timers remember her. Light skin, dark hair, raspy voice, great Bbbjs. From at least 7 years ago. She had a baby about 7 years ago. Anyone have contact info for her please pm me. I'm going and love to see her.[/QUOTE]Of course you mean Demi Moore. A great provider. I did not know she had a baby.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2404118]Of course you mean Demi Moore. A great provider. I did not know she had a baby.[/QUOTE]And I saw her recently on FB. Unfortunately, I don't remember her handle.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2404049]This guy is insane, you never keep all your money in one place, always lock your cards, ID and passport in a combination safe. Never hide your shit in the same apartment. It's hard to believe they came back to rob him again. After seeing so many warning messages here, I will definitely take a lot of more precautions this time.[/QUOTE]I viewed portions of the video, and what stuck out to me is that he was staying in a building that had no security, or porteros / vigilantes monitoring the building 24/7. Hence the whole building got robbed. So given my own personal experiences as of lately, I now realize how dangerous our hobby is here in Colombia compared to most other places in the world. And what is disappointing is that prostitution is legal here, but you still have to watch your every step here.

I got an e-mail that indicated the bar at the Mansion was going to have a New Year's Eve party this year. Lleras will be crammed with people. Many of the chicas will be with there families or friends, but some will not. Whether because family went out of town and they stayed behind or they want to party with a gringo who will pay the bill or they are just alone.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2403924]Thanks. I won't get in until the 30th. Are you sure the clubs in Lleras will be busy on the 31st? All my gusto-girl contacts are telling me they will spend New Year's Eve with family. Some girl is telling me about a penthouse party, but it seems like it's invite only. Do you know if the mansion or gusto is throwing a big party on the 31st, or will paradise be open?

I was in a crazy party in paradise on Columbus Day (it was a Sunday), they brought in a good DJ and opened until 11 am. Lots of working girls showed that night, they were in groups, very intoxicated and high, all they were interested in was dancing, which was a lot of fun. Half of the girls are normal girls who just want to party. Is there a similar party for New Year celebration?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2404162]I got an e-mail that indicated the bar at the Mansion was going to have a New Year's Eve party this year. Lleras will be crammed with people. Many of the chicas will be with there families or friends, but some will not. Whether because family went out of town and they stayed behind or they want to party with a gringo who will pay the bill or they are just alone.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I will give both the Mansion and Lleras a try. Too bad none of my go-to girls are available that night. I guess it's time to find a new girl for the new year.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2404121]I viewed portions of the video, and what stuck out to me is that he was staying in a building that had no security, or porteros / vigilantes monitoring the building 24/7. Hence the whole building got robbed. So given my own personal experiences as of lately, I now realize how dangerous our hobby is here in Colombia compared to most other places in the world. And what is disappointing is that prostitution is legal here, but you still have to watch your every step here.[/QUOTE]It is more dangerous compared to Germany or Switzerland, especially in my case, I speak zero Spanish. But for me, the reward is too high that makes the risk acceptable. In nowhere on earth, I can find this many smoking-hot 18-21 years at this price (I know you can find Asian girls in South East Asia, but I don't dig Asian girls). I think two things that made Medellin stand out as a world-class mongering destination: the amount of mongering options available, and the willingness and the quality of girls.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2404120]And I saw her recently on FB. Unfortunately, I don't remember her handle.[/QUOTE]She deleted her Facebook account within the last month. Probably someone took her off the market. BTW, she has two children.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2404320]She deleted her Facebook account within the last month. Probably someone took her off the market. BTW, she has two children.[/QUOTE]I remember her at 18 years old, working the Mayorista!

Always cool.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2404277]It is more dangerous compared to Germany or Switzerland, especially in my case, I speak zero Spanish. But for me, the reward is too high that makes the risk acceptable. In nowhere on earth, I can find this many smoking-hot 18-21 years at this price (I know you can find Asian girls in South East Asia, but I don't dig Asian girls). I think two things that made Medellin stand out as a world-class mongering destination: the amount of mongering options available, and the willingness and the quality of girls.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Germany, Switzerland, and many other European countries where prostitution is legal, has "zero" danger associated with it. Just imagine if lots of people spoke English and it wasn't dangerous here in Colombia, it would of been totally run over and ruined by Mongers years ago, and unfortunately it's been headed in that direction for a while as more and more Mongers are coming here. Your a perfect example, no Spanish speaking skills which can be a serious impediment which I'm sure you realize, yet your here because of what can be found, even given the risks.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2401708]Photo Prepagos is a tool I really never thought of using. I wonder if we could get some input from other men who have used it?

We have plenty of posts concerning FB, and Tinder, and Colombia Cupid, but not much on Photo Prepagos.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I prefer browsing Mileroticos because there are many more ads with chicas showing their faces, less photoshop. Generally, girls on Photoprepagos and Elbookrosa ask a higher price point. The best thing about these online options is the fact that they easily integrate with WhatsApp and I write better than I speak. I can be very specific with my needs, easily get in touch once I see that they are online. I have no problem going to an in-call so I find that I have better control of my time instead of waiting around for a FB girl to turn up.

That is my biggest problem with the facebook scene, it involves more waiting than I am willing to do. It comes with the territory and of course if you are sitting around your place you can make the time pass without noticing it very much. The girls are juggling appointments and negotiating traffic delays; and they are living their lives. They have no problem leaving one of us waiting while they take care of their personal matters. It's all good. I personally prefer to give my time priority. There is a happy medium. You can tell the girl to show up no later than x hour and move on if she doesn't. At this stage of life I'm not going to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass wondering what to do next.

[QUOTE=Almotu;2404633]I prefer browsing Mileroticos because there are many more ads with chicas showing their faces, less photoshop. Generally, girls on Photoprepagos and Elbookrosa ask a higher price point. The best thing about these online options is the fact that they easily integrate with WhatsApp and I write better than I speak. I can be very specific with my needs, easily get in touch once I see that they are online. I have no problem going to an in-call so I find that I have better control of my time instead of waiting around for a FB girl to turn up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2404673]That is my biggest problem with the facebook scene, it involves more waiting than I am willing to do. It comes with the territory and of course if you are sitting around your place you can make the time pass without noticing it very much. The girls are juggling appointments and negotiating traffic delays; and they are living their lives. They have no problem leaving one of us waiting while they take care of their personal matters. It's all good. I personally prefer to give my time priority. There is a happy medium. You can tell the girl to show up no later than x hour and move on if she doesn't. At this stage of life I'm not going to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass wondering what to do next.[/QUOTE]LOL. It's not as hard as why'all make it, not one girl made me wait out of 3 I smashed I met on FB. Matter fact I flaked on a couple and they tried rescheduling for another day. It's a useful option if they something you like.

I been getting a lot of private messages about a linked I posted. I posted the link so you all that are interested can ask her. I'm not her agent so send a message and try your luck like I did. This forum gives you all you need to know let your fingers / mouth / imagination handle the rest. What I might think is great you might not. I didn't leave a detailed report because I don't want why'all to have ya greedy hands on her LOL but she is for all us but you got to do the work yourself.

So, my second to last night in MDE (Saturday), I met a bloke and ended up going to Gustos. He had fallen in love with some girl that was working there, that night. Anyway, I ran into the real estate girl from early in my trip. Tall, beautiful face, dark straight hair, lighter eyes, has a kid, speaks a bit of English. She seemed to be helping out a group of her friends with guys, that night. She was drained and annoyed. She ends up asking me if we can leave, gratis. So, yes, I got wheeled out of Gustos. Probably the crowning achievement of my entire life. She stayed the night, GFE, once that night & once in the morning. I can't recall her working name.

Now, to get to the Title of this post, bad news for those that have PM'd me about the "Petite Blonde" . She is back in her hometown and currently retired from the game. On that same night, she ended up at a love motel with a gringo. This guy, loosely described as "bearded, gap-teeth, shorts, aggressive, drunk" roughed up the PB, and stole her cell phone. Maybe a case of two sides to every story, but she had visible bruises on her forearm and thigh. Her story goes, she didn't want to stay all night with him, so he took her phone and tried to prevent her from leaving. When the police arrived, they didn't attempt to help her, she never got her phone, and the motel reception girl tried to help to no avail. PB was really broken up, and her mom summoned her home. I spent the next evening with her. I took her out for dinner on my last night, she stayed over, helped me pack, and then had a sweet moment where my cleaning lady was having a heart-to-heart with her for awhile in the morning. Probably best for her, but it's unfortunate the decision was almost made for her, by one idiot. She's MAYBE 100 lbs, and to see her wincing every time I accidentally touched her arm, was pretty sad. She never asked for anything from me, so I have no reason to not believe her story.

All-in-all I had another amazing trip to MDE, and over 32 days, fell more and more in love with the idea of possibly relocating to the City of Eternal Spring.

Happy hunting thru the holidays, gents!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2404888]Now, to get to the Title of this post, bad news for those that have PM'd me about the "Petite Blonde" . She is back in her hometown and currently retired from the game.[/QUOTE]It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404906]It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, I think I mentioned that in one of my posts during my trip as a revelation. I saw some pretty shady looking characters amongst mongers in my last trip and that explained to me why some of these chicas take a while to open up. Its not all are your stereotype older 60's heavier set men. In many ways those are the better clients for these Chicas as they are seldom violent and easy to be with and the sex is not as physically demanding.
They of course love the younger clean cut ones just looking for poon even a little on the hard side is fine, but its the violent and predatorial types, that can't get it up without actually hurting them and inflicting real harm and don't seem to know or care about the limits and those kind do exist. Some will go to just try out that sick fantasy elsewhere. I am sure evey chica in the game for a while has had such an encounter. It does affect them.

I also think that is why they put a value on being a known client that is not a prick, just like we do with them.
That said, its not a done deal with this chica. Many times they go back and then life happens and they get right back into it.
Also slapshot can have this chica P4P if he wants even if she has "retired".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404906]It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.[/QUOTE]The sad part about all this is that a "gringo" according to Slapshot had roughed her up. I'm going to say based on what women here have told me, that it's "almost normal" for Colombian men to rough women up at times. But a gringo roughing up a Colombian, that's despicable. And the cops not doing anything, sounds a little bizarre, but the culture here in Colombia, and how they go about things can be mind boggling at times. Regardless, if the gringo roughed her up, he should of been hauled off and thrown in the slammer. I can't even imagine what the jails are like here, most probably not a pretty sight.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404906]It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.[/QUOTE]This is very much adult thing and anything can happen at anytime. Many girls in Tijuana have told me about some crazy clients and I'm sure anywhere you go and ask the girls got a story for you.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2404935]This is very much adult thing and anything can happen at anytime. Many girls in Tijuana have told me about some crazy clients and I'm sure anywhere you go and ask the girls got a story for you.[/QUOTE]I was in Tijuana the other day and came across a NICE SW that looked out of place. All she wanted was 200 pesos ($10.50) clothes off without negotiating, and 25 pesos for the room. I asked her what she was doing out there and she said that she needed money. She kept speaking in English even though I was speaking to her in Spanish and told her I was from Brazil. During the session she was doing the normal Tijuana shit looking at the ceiling and wall. I asked her why she was acting like that and she said it was just work. After the session I told her that I would like to get her again next time but she was acting so cold. She said next time it would be better, it was just that she was scared of me. I started laughing. One of the few that I have ever gotten contact info from. Will definitely hit her next time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404906]It just goes to show that this game can be dangerous for the girls as well and the police is not always on the side of the girl and out to fleece the foreigners as many would have us believe.[/QUOTE]Yup. These girls get paid in cash, which makes them perfect targets for thieves.

Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.

Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2404931]The sad part about all this is that a "gringo" according to Slapshot had roughed her up. I'm going to say based on what women here have told me, that it's "almost normal" for Colombian men to rough women up at times. But a gringo roughing up a Colombian, that's despicable. And the cops not doing anything, sounds a little bizarre, but the culture here in Colombia, and how they go about things can be mind boggling at times. Regardless, if the gringo roughed her up, he should of been hauled off and thrown in the slammer. I can't even imagine what the jails are like here, most probably not a pretty sight.[/QUOTE]Who knows what really happened? I doubt any of us would be shocked to learn a chica had made up or exaggerated a story for some purpose.

Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404948]I was in Tijuana the other day and came across a NICE SW that looked out of place. All she wanted was 200 pesos ($10.50) clothes off without negotiating, and 25 pesos for the room. I asked her what she was doing out there and she said that she needed money. She kept speaking in English even though I was speaking to her in Spanish and told her I was from Brazil. During the session she was doing the normal Tijuana shit looking at the ceiling and wall. I asked her why she was acting like that and she said it was just work. After the session I told her that I would like to get her again next time but she was acting so cold. She said next time it would be better, it was just that she was scared of me. I started laughing. One of the few that I have ever gotten contact info from. Will definitely hit her next time.[/QUOTE]I had similar experience in Medellin with girls from Gusto and Paradise. At first they were cold and standoffish, but after a few overnight stay with me, I gain their trust completely. We would go party all night, when they go use the bathroom, they would leave me their phone, sometimes unlocked. Sex is infinitely better once you build a level of comfort and trust with the girls.

Thank you for sharing. I think you will enjoy your visits more and more as you gain experience. You paid top dollar but more importantly, you know you paid top dollar. Probably because you took the time to RTFF. I'm looking forward to reading more.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2405017]Who knows what really happened? I doubt any of us would be shocked to learn a chica had made up or exaggerated a story for some purpose.

Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.[/QUOTE]The BS stories that comes along with a monger's life makes, it hard to pay attention to events that we did not create. Pollo negro is out!

Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2405236]Thank you for sharing. I think you will enjoy your visits more and more as you gain experience. You paid top dollar but more importantly, you know you paid top dollar. Probably because you took the time to RTFF. I'm looking forward to reading more.[/QUOTE]My gawd I get it that we all have much different sized wallets but what your paying for one hour, hell I get that for literally the whole night and everything goes. This is the reason I don't party anywhere near Poblado and I have my own apartment.

And the BS chica at Fase II that told you 600,000 for 2 hours is feeding you shit, it is about 200,000 on site for about an hour give or depending on how busy they are in the room.

Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. After all it's only pussy.

But all in all glad you had fun!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2405300]My gawd I get it that we all have much different sized wallets but what your paying for one hour, hell I get that for literally the whole night and everything goes. This is the reason I don't party anywhere near Poblado and I have my own apartment.

And the BS chica at Fase II that told you 600,000 for 2 hours is feeding you shit, it is about 200,000 on site for about an hour give or depending on how busy they are in the room.

Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. After all it's only pussy.

But all in all glad you had fun!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Many years ago when I was just a pup I was with my father in a gambling social club we both belonged to in the US. I was sitting with him watching the action when my father pointed to a guy who was betting with both hands on everything he could get a bet on. So I asked my dad why he wanted me to watch this guy. He told me that guy hates money. I think reading about how some of these new guys overpay reminds me of that.

Sorry if that doesn't fit in with mongering, but I thought it might.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2405291]Whether or not a girl asks me for something, I doubt all sob stories. Even if the story is 100% true, it's not my problem. I didn't steal your phone. I didn't make your mother sick. My name is not on the lease for the apartment where your rent is due.[/QUOTE]I am a customer. When shit happens at other places where I am a customer, they do not run to me with sob stories. McDonald's never called to tell me someone took a monster dump and stopped up the plumbing. The city bus company never called to tell me how much gas prices went up. But when a mf is a customer to buy some pussy shit can get haywire, discombobulating the vendor-customer relationship.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2405300]Yes please don't fuck the pay scale up for other mongers to follow, hell not me as I have my stable of cuties that rock my world but for other guys. [/QUOTE]Not fucking me up. When I run into those chicks I will tell them that he already told me he gave her enough pesos so that both of us could hit.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room.
but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

[/QUOTE]I do not think that enough guys have properly busted your balls yet, so I am going to pile on.

That $60 dollars that you paid to get the chica past the front desk at your hotel would have paid for a nice apartment in Laureles. That $60 dollars is what I paid for a hot hot chica for three hours of bareback 'everything'(because sometimes I like to remember what the inside of wet pussy feels like) and that includes her taxi and the meal we ate on a break from me trying to slam her head through the headboard. Figuratively speaking! 450,000 pesos is what you pay a chica for 24 hours of all the sex you can get into that period. 450,000 pesos is what she probably pays for rent for a month if she lives alone. 200 000 should get you a couple to three hours with a hot hot chica. 200 000 is half her rent for a month, but probably she lives with her grandmother who watches the kids so that 200 000 is going for that new Adidas sweat suit she had her eye on and some shoes and a little coca so she can stay thin looking for the next mark that wants to give her 200 000, then a handful of pesos for grandma.

I too am glad that you had a good time, but read the forum and put it in perspective and you can spend less and still have a good time without pricing out us budget shoppers who do not want to be priced out of the market.

All this information is in the forum in this thread. So you did not read the forum or you would have just told everyone what a great time you had and not mentioned what you paid for it.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2405384]I do not think that enough guys have properly busted your balls yet, so I am going to pile on.

That $60 dollars that you paid to get the chica past the front desk at your hotel would have paid for a nice apartment in Laureles. That $60 dollars is what I paid for a hot hot chica for three hours of bareback 'everything'(because sometimes I like to remember what the inside of wet pussy feels like) and that includes her taxi and the meal we ate on a break from me trying to slam her head through the headboard. Figuratively speaking! 450,000 pesos is what you pay a chica for 24 hours of all the sex you can get into that period. 450,000 pesos is what she probably pays for rent for a month if she lives alone. 200 000 should get you a couple to three hours with a hot hot chica. 200 000 is half her rent for a month, but probably she lives with her grandmother who watches the kids so that 200 000 is going for that new Adidas sweat suit she had her eye on and some shoes and a little coca so she can stay thin looking for the next mark that wants to give her 200 000, then a handful of pesos for grandma.

I too am glad that you had a good time, but read the forum and put it in perspective and you can spend less and still have a good time without pricing out us budget shoppers who do not want to be priced out of the market.

All this information is in the forum in this thread. So you did not read the forum or you would have just told everyone what a great time you had and not mentioned what you paid for it.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.

Kudos for posting this. Keep the posts coming.

I know and I already see few guys giving you hard time and how you paid too much. They are correct but none of that means anything because the most important thing is you are having a great time and you will continue to have a good time with YOUR money. The girls are there to make money and you are there to have fun. Both are achieved.

Like Mr Knowledge said, it will get better and you will pay lot less for girls and stay and have the same fun. Also, the key thing to remember is Medellin has a full range of girls (in class and price) and mongers (class and money). I have been going there 4-5 times a year for 7 years and have seen it all and what one guy pays does not effect another guy because there is so much supply. Every day countless girls are turning 18 and the availability is keeping up with demand.

Cute story from Gusto. I was there with a a friend chatting up two nice looking girls that both of us would potentially take home. They ordered their drink and we ordered ours. After 5 minutes of chatting, the girls grabbed their drinks and started walking away. The conversation was quite friendly till then and we did not discuss anything about sex so I asked them why they are leaving. One girl replied in fluent English, "you speak Spanish and you know Medellin. You won't pay us what we charge because we know you can find girls for less, so why waste your time or our time? " Wow. What an insight. I appreciated her candidness and asked her how much do they charge. She replied 450,000. I told her, she is right on and wished them good night.

The point of the story is that girls know their clients like we know them. Just like how we can spot someone new to business, they can spot a newbie and take their chances at making an extra buck. If all is agreed upon ahead of time, they are not robbing and you and it is a pure business transaction that both parties are willing to partake.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.

Me- Mid 30's, decent looking, tall white male. Speak almost no Spanish.

It has exceeded expectations. Visited the Mansion in Poblado. 50,000 entry fee. About 10 girls all very attractive and very friendly. I was very surprised they were not pushy at all and genuinely seemed to just want to have fun. I stayed for 2 hours and took one of them back to my hotel for an hour. She charged me 200,000, plus it was 60.00 USD fee to bring her to my room. I probably could have negotiated down, but she was extremely friendly and fun. She did GFE and DFK. I sent her on her way after we were done and the night was young, so I went to Fase Dos. All the girls were very attractive. Some can be a bit pushy. I stayed about an hour and a half. Didn't get any of the girls, but one girl started out at 600,000 for 2 hours or so and eventually went down to 200,000 for 45 minutes. I still wasn't interested and didn't get her. I then went to Gusto's. Again the girls seemed very friendly in there and I took a very beautiful 22 year old out for an hour. She charged me 450,000 pesos. Again GFE and DFK. I should have negotiated but I was very drunk at this point. We got a short time hotel, it was very very nice. It was called Ibiza Hotel I think. It was 33.00 USD for the hour.

Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.

I am staying in Poblado Plaza. Only a snob would not find this hotel very nice. I can safely recommend this hotel to anyone wanting to stay in Medellin. Everything has been very nice here, except they don't really speak English and the 60.00 USD fee to bring a guest to my room. The front desk kinda seemed like he didn't totally approve of me bringing a guest up, but I can see where he is coming from.

I signed up at Body Tech Gym, in case anyone is looking for a nice gym. Way too expensive. It was 80.00 USD for a month's membership and they didn't do shorter memberships. The gym itself is very nice though.[/QUOTE]If you get a membership to the forum and obtain Private Messaging I will tell you a very classy place to stay in Poblado where you do not have to pay to get chicas to your room, and I will even tell you how to get the chicas delivered there. From a catalog, so to speak.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2405417]Kudos for posting this. Keep the posts coming.

I know and I already see few guys giving you hard time and how you paid too much. They are correct but none of that means anything because the most important thing is you are having a great time and you will continue to have a good time with YOUR money. The girls are there to make money and you are there to have fun. Both are achieved.

Like Mr Knowledge said, it will get better and you will pay lot less for girls and stay and have the same fun. Also, the key thing to remember is Medellin has a full range of girls (in class and price) and mongers (class and money). I have been going there 4-5 times a year for 7 years and have seen it all and what one guy pays does not effect another guy because there is so much supply. Every day countless girls are turning 18 and the availability is keeping up with demand.

[/QUOTE]I stand corrected on insinuating that Njoean197 cold price us budget guys out, your experience and logic about the supply and demand on that subject make more sense than my criticism.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405013]Arrived last night in Medellin.



Side Notes: Mcdonalds has surpisingly good food in Medellin LOL. I was drunk when I ate there, but it was actually very good. Uber has been a pleasure and very cheap. The cab drivers have been very professional, helpful, and understanding since I speak almost no Spanish.

[/QUOTE]Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.

Hey guys,

I am new to the forum and joined because I need some advice on where in Medellin I should stay at for a bachelor trip. It's about 6 to 8 guys. We are looking at where is the best places to stay, hang out and where the girls are hot, friendly and cheap. Any advice would be great. Any advice from chicas to nightlife is welcomed and much appreciated.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2405443]Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.[/QUOTE]Actually there are portions of the Rappi App that are in English so using the App with no Spanish skills is possible. The real issue is going to be understanding all the terms used for food. And Google translator may fumble on some of them. But for simple stuff like Pasta it's pretty straight forward and the typical delivery fee is about $ 1 USD, and it's actually faster at times than going out someplace to eat. However, ordering items like french fries and other things that are best eaten right away, and or pizzas are not good choices. Probably the best items are Pasta dishes as I have had pretty good luck with those types of dishes. Typically by the time I order food via Rappi, it's at my doorstep 45 minutes later. A good choice when you don't want to go out, and as far as Burgers, there are tons of places with good burgers besides McDonalds as you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405410]Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.[/QUOTE]You don't need to apologize to anybody, you were in the candy store and overwhelmed by everything. And compared to a lot of other venues in the world, what you paid would not of been exorbitant, but here as your finding out, and in great detail by the other members of this board. You cannot imagine how inexpensive pussy can be here, especially for the locals. Anyways, keep posting and don't let anybody get under your skin.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405410]Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.[/QUOTE]Wow. You have nothing to apologize for. I can't believe this many people grilled you for simply sharing your experience. I know people who paid 60 dollars to bring girls back in their first week, once they become more informed, they found better arrangements. Try Airbnb, energy living is a pretty good place, but for me, the location is a little off, there is nothing around it (within walking distance). When you book AirBnb, make sure you look thoroughly through the house rules. You want to make sure they allow guests and there is no explicit language against sex tourism. Ideally you want a place that has a private entrance in a local neighborhood, where you can easily go downstairs to get food and booze. You can ask the Airbnb host about the entrance arrangement. Places like energy living is OK, what I don't like about it is the 24/7 door man, I normally bring back 2 to 3 girls a day and I do one to two threesome a week. It is awkward for a dude in his thirties to bring back a pair 18 year-old in the morning and another pair in the night. If you only like hotels, I stayed at hotel San Fernando in Poblado once, it is very close to Lleras. They allow you to bring chicas back for free.

As for the price you are paying, it is a bit high for one hour stay. Feel free to ask them to party with you all night, most of the girls will be happy to do anything for 500 k pesos, and if they like you, they will throw in some hot morning sex as well. During the day time, if you just want sex, give Facebook Chica a try, you can get GFE+ for 150-300 k pesos, depending the kind of service you desire. 150-200 k will get you the standard GFE, anything more than that you have to negotiate. Casas like fantasias energy ([URL]https://www.fantasiasenergy.com/?m=1&zx=a792e9f2279067ec[/URL]) is also a day-time option. I have never had any good experience with casas' chicas.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2405558]I think it needs to have a context. New comers will pay higher price, and it is location dependent. There are still far fewer mongers visiting Medellin than other popular destinations. It is hard to see the normal price increase much.[/QUOTE]People overpaying in Poblado, affects the price in Poblado. At least it affects the price right up to the point when the girl who used her last 20 k for the taxi to Parque Lleras realizes she's going to be stuck walking back to Bello.

The girl in Gusto is going to hold out for 400 k, all the way to closing time. When she's standing around, watching all the customers disappear, her price becomes a lot more negotiable.

However, the small number of girls in Lleras being overpaid by the small group of gringos doesn't change the price in the casas or on the streets of El Centro. It doesn't change the price on Facebook.

Uber eats charges a bit more for delivery fee but I notice they service all the same restaurants as Rappi plus a few others. I recommend getting an account on both. I'm pretty sure you can change the language setting on uber eats. Check that, I haven't actually tried the language setting but I think I remember seeing the option.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2405443]Medellin has a lot of very good burger places that in my opinion are much better than Mcdonalds, Firehouse and Home Burgers come to mind. There is an app called Rappi that is Colombia's version of Uber Eats, Postmates, Doordash, etc. The only problem is that it is in Spanish so you my need to use Google Translator, I am not proficient in Spanish and I made it work. Its way cheap compared to say Uber Eats though and you then have a world of food at your fingertips. You will see Rappi delivery guys everywhere if you keep your eyes open.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2405547]I can't believe this many people grilled you for simply sharing your experience. [/QUOTE]Another way to look at it is people are sharing information so he is better informed after.

With an early Tuesday morning departure back to the US to spend the holidays, I decided to make the most of my last day and a half. I contacted one of my El Centro Sweethearts and told her to meet me by the Veracruz Church at 5 PM on Sunday night. We walked about 100 meters and checked into our luxury suite at the Villa Real Hotel. A pretty basic room but with a fridge, mini-bar, cable TV, extra blankets / pillows, hot water, etc. So we went at it a lot throughout the night. The extra pillows came in handy as I would lay her face down on the end of the bed which was higher than normal and prop her butt up in the air and than use gravity to glide into her while holding each one of her legs with my hands. I feel sorry for the flies on the wall who witnessed all this. So I got three loads off before we departed at 10 AM. Not a beauty queen, not ugly, thin, a Colombian with a nice tight body and into it, into it, into it, very wet, like silk, and a Nympho (my type). I normally give her 150 K, but she's always such a good sport and not a problem with "morning wood" at 5 AM so I gave her an additional 30 K for her Christmas Bonus.

So later in the afternoon on Monday I thought about going back to El Centro and did so around 4 PM with the intention of only going with one of my two Blow Job Queens if they were working. These are my finishers or I guess my hired guns as when I'm totally depleted, running on fumes, these are the ones I go to as I know they will get the job done. Well as it turned out upon arriving at "ground zero" I walked by the Veracruz Church and low and behold one of my BJ Queens was out. I gave her a signal as to which Hotel she would be receiving my load in and we checked into a room. I was so tired and depleted I was wondering if she would be able to get the job done. It was very nice, I just laid back and did nothing versus laying pipe all night. I could of and should gotten a manicure while this was all going on. After about 15 minutes I told her to ratchet it up. And it kinda was like switching from high suction to maximum suction on my DYSON. Within a few minutes I popped and almost hit the ceiling and had to tell her to stop as she sucked every last drop out of me and swallowed. Anyways, I normally give her 40 K for this service which is hard to come by, or I should say a great way to come, so I gave her a 10 K Christmas Bonus.

So with four leches in twenty four hours, this old farts saddlebags are empty.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2405410]Sorry guys. First night in Medellin got the best of me. 'm definitely not trying to fuck prices up for anybody. Will work on negotiating prices more. Just sharing some factual information on starting prices. I know I clearly overpaid, my bad guys. Yes Medellin has been fun and I was just trying to spread the good word to anybody else sick of the daily grind in the states who is looking for a good time. Best of luck to everybody.[/QUOTE]You really don't have to apologize, some guys have compared Medellin to a candy store which is a fine metaphor but I think it is more like what I imagine a heroin addicts first fix must be like. When I came back in October one member PMed me and ask how it was to be home and I told him it was like coming off a cocaine high, I was broke, depressed and working on saving more money for my next fix. My next trio I am going to mix up the mongering a little and mix in some time in El Centro to really budget shop. As I mentioned before if you get a membership then you get Private Messaging and I will gladly send you information that will help you save money.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2405498]Actually there are portions of the Rappi App that are in English so using the App with no Spanish skills is possible. The real issue is going to be understanding all the terms used for food. And Google translator may fumble on some of them. But for simple stuff like Pasta it's pretty straight forward and the typical delivery fee is about $ 1 USD, and it's actually faster at times than going out someplace to eat. However, ordering items like french fries and other things that are best eaten right away, and or pizzas are not good choices. Probably the best items are Pasta dishes as I have had pretty good luck with those types of dishes. Typically by the time I order food via Rappi, it's at my doorstep 45 minutes later. A good choice when you don't want to go out, and as far as Burgers, there are tons of places with good burgers besides McDonalds as you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Domicilios is another app for delivery. Probably mostly the same restaurants as Rappi. One of the nice things about it, it will ask how much you're paying, so the delivery driver will bring the correct change.

I'm not sure about Rappi, but Domicilios and at least one other delivery app allow you to order from liquor stores and pharmacies. You can hit a girl on WhatsApp to come see you, then use the app to order food, booze, Viagra and condoms.

For those of you (I will hope to be one as well next year) that play with the Vennies in El Centro, are you mostly just bringing them back to your room via taxi / uber? I guess my main question is, if staying in Laureles Airbnb, do you guys just go poach and bring them back to your room? Or do these chicas have little setups somewhere there? Sorry for the ignorance. I've only stayed in Poblado which is a good distance from El Centro. I hoping to sample some of this discounted puta in the coming year.

As always, the perspective I get from you guys on this board is off the charts. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2405647]Domicilios is another app for delivery. Probably mostly the same restaurants as Rappi. One of the nice things about it, it will ask how much you're paying, so the delivery driver will bring the correct change.

I'm not sure about Rappi, but Domicilios and at least one other delivery app allow you to order from liquor stores and pharmacies. You can hit a girl on WhatsApp to come see you, then use the app to order food, booze, Viagra and condoms.[/QUOTE]Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2405613].......... I would lay her face down on the end of the bed which was higher than normal and prop her butt up in the air and than use gravity to glide into her while holding each one of her legs with my hands. I feel sorry for the flies on the wall who witnessed all this. So I got three loads off before we departed at 10 AM. Not a beauty queen, not ugly, thin, a Colombian with a nice tight body and into it, into it, into it, very wet, like silk, and a Nympho (my type). I normally give her 150 K, but she's always such a good sport and not a problem with "morning wood" at 5 AM so I gave her an additional 30 K for her Christmas Bonus............[/QUOTE]Damn Surf you're a regular Santa Claus, the only difference being you fill up your stockings rather than the girl's. I once did a position similar to the one you described with a US babe and she called me a sex maniac.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2405813]Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.[/QUOTE]Umm, that is not correct. I have used Rappi in both Bogota and Cali and my girlfriend has always paid in cash.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2405813]Rappi does not deal in cash, it's all by credit card. They represent everyone including markets, liquor stores, and pharmacies. If you go in the EXITO in Poblado you will see Rappi employees filling orders. And it's just like UBER in that you get alerts when the orders have been filled and a live tracking of the delivery. I don't know anything about Domicillos but I think Rappi is much larger.[/QUOTE]Are you saying you can get ED meds. With rappi? Have not tried that but would if that is a possibility.

I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.

Is there any reasonable way to arrange this beforehand?

The first sex I have with any girl, free or paid, is always bad but after the initial tension passes, the next and subsequent times are amazing and I can then really shine. I mean, I'll cum in any case, but I really like to please my girl when I fuck her and this sort of arrangement would be great for me. It's an ego thing I guess. She's having a good time because of ME and MY skills.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2390535]Yeah I'm sure that would be the case.

But it entailed them living with me which was a no go zone.

I know guys that pay 2 million COP a month and you can get a surprisingly got chick at that price They cook and clean but they are still with you 24/7.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2405872]Are you saying you can get ED meds. With rappi? Have not tried that but would if that is a possibility.[/QUOTE]I was told, did not experience it nor try to order anything but food (my breakfast was $5 delivered, eggs, wedge of some type cheese, bacon, arepa, orange juice and coffee). But again I was told Rappi would deliver anything, including cash from ATM, or that jacket your chica left in your apartment. I too saw them filling orders in the Carulla near my apartment. I was tempted to try it but figured it took more time and planning than food.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2405778]Or do these chicas have little setups somewhere there? Sorry for the ignorance. I've only stayed in Poblado which is a good distance from El Centro. [/QUOTE]The chicas will take you to short time room near by. It you want cheap sex, that is the way to do it.

You can look up JjBee62 's recent post for a better detail reply.

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2405885]I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.[/QUOTE]Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2405893]The chicas will take you to short time room near by. It you want cheap sex, that is the way to do it.

You can look up JjBee62 's recent post for a better detail reply.[/QUOTE]I found a few of his reports that touched on this, Thanks! Last thing I want to do is clog this page with redundant questions! Thanks again.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2405902]Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.[/QUOTE]The risk with that is you might find yourself staying in a pretty crappy motel. Unless you are cool with that.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2405913]The risk with that is you might find yourself staying in a pretty crappy motel. Unless you are cool with that.[/QUOTE]I told her the criteria and taught her to read the reviews. But I stay in nice hotels all the time so no big deal to me. Remember the one I stay in in downtown Medellin is only $13, so I don't require too much.

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2405885]I'd be perfectly happy to have a "novia temporal" that stays / travels with me for two weeks while I explore the country in mid February.

Is there any reasonable way to arrange this beforehand?

The first sex I have with any girl, free or paid, is always bad but after the initial tension passes, the next and subsequent times are amazing and I can then really shine. I mean, I'll cum in any case, but I really like to please my girl when I fuck her and this sort of arrangement would be great for me. It's an ego thing I guess. She's having a good time because of ME and MY skills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2405902]Get online and meet a normal chick. Don't really know who will do it when you tell them you only want a temporary thing though. You might have to find a hooker if you make that known.

I'm going to San Andres next month with a college student from Barranquilla. I put her in charge of finding accommodations for us. I told her I will give her 300K per day to pay for the room and whatever is left she can keep.[/QUOTE]I just want to add to what Mr E was telling you. I have been obsessed with fucking latina chicas for some time now and there was a time when I was younger that I could get away with it for free in places like Mexico city and the Yucatan but eventually I started running into the semi-pro types. I used to work the hell out of the Cupid Dot Coms, Latinamerican and Colombian Cupid Dot Coms. It takes a lot of conversing online, but the semi-pro types are on there as well as the pros. This last trip to Colombia I gave it a try and there were a few that I talked to that were obvious semi-pros. I even had a couple of younger chicas that were smoking hot, one in Cartagena and one in Medellin, that I talked to for a few weeks but eventually I got around to the "I am only looking for temporary romance" line and they were pissed. Others though that I told that "I am looking for temporary companionship with someone who I can help pay some bills" and they were receptive. The thing about the cupids is that there is every type of chica there, many of them are straight up looking for husbands for them and fathers for their children. Some are straight up con artists who will hit you up for Western Union transfer after a couple of conversations. So you have to weed though all this to find the goldilocks chica that is just right for what you are looking for. I have had to talk to three and four and one time and since I am not fluent in spanish, that means a lot of copy and paste, copy and paste from Google Translate to the Cupid chat box.

The only other way to do it is. Face book, and that is also a lot of work also because you still have to find them, sift through the straight pros who are going to want to over charge you (some are going to ask 400 k COP per day. I would not think of paying them more than 150 K per day for an arrangement like that) to find that semi pro who is either childless or has a strong enough support system at home to leave her child to travel with you. If you had a Private Message box on here, I could help you with the FB thing, but you are still going to have to put a lot of time into building a list to find he right one and communicating what you want from them.

Bottom line Rappi is the shit. I was sick in November and thank god I could just get cold medicine delivered. Also uber eats is legit as well.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2405934]I just want to add to what Mr E was telling you. I have been obsessed with fucking latina chicas for some time now and there was a time when I was younger that I could get away with it for free in places like Mexico city and the Yucatan but eventually I started running into the semi-pro types. I used to work the hell out of the Cupid Dot Coms, Latinamerican and Colombian Cupid Dot Coms. It takes a lot of conversing online, but the semi-pro types are on there as well as the pros. This last trip to Colombia I gave it a try and there were a few that I talked to that were obvious semi-pros. I even had a couple of younger chicas that were smoking hot, one in Cartagena and one in Medellin, that I talked to for a few weeks but eventually I got around to the "I am only looking for temporary romance" line and they were pissed. Others though that I told that "I am looking for temporary companionship with someone who I can help pay some bills" and they were receptive. The thing about the cupids is that there is every type of chica there, many of them are straight up looking for husbands for them and fathers for their children. Some are straight up con artists who will hit you up for Western Union transfer after a couple of conversations. So you have to weed though all this to find the goldilocks chica that is just right for what you are looking for. I have had to talk to three and four and one time and since I am not fluent in spanish, that means a lot of copy and paste, copy and paste from Google Translate to the Cupid chat box..[/QUOTE]The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

At MrEnternational and at Mojo Bandit:

Thank you for your general advice. Once I sort out this bitcoin thing I'll get a subscription and get back to you via PM.

While I get around to that, it's the cupids and / or facebook? Any other networks?

My Spanish is okay-ish. I was fine in Venezuela 3 years ago with it so I imagine I could hold my own in a simple enough type of conversation.

Hi everyone,

I've been reading for a bit and planning a trip to Medellin 1/12-1/20 ish. I want to try to do as much as I can while I'm here and from what I've read, I'm thinking I should split my stay in half at the mansion and half at an airBnB (the 2 I've heard are Energy Living and Blux, I'm hoping to bring multiple girls back without an issue during the day. Any suggestions?) I will definitely hit up fase dos and gustos during my trip but I see some of you are saying that I could get a girl to stay with me for a day for 300-500 k. I'the love to have that experience as well if someone can give me any recommendations on how to get that set up. I'the also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out.

I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2405578]Uber eats charges a bit more for delivery fee but I notice they service all the same restaurants as Rappi plus a few others. I recommend getting an account on both. I'm pretty sure you can change the language setting on uber eats. Check that, I haven't actually tried the language setting but I think I remember seeing the option.[/QUOTE]A problem with Uber Eats (and maybe all the delivery services) is the monetary limit of what you can order. I think it is 25 mil. I know it is not enough to order two hamburger combos.

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2406030]While I get around to that, it's the cupids and / or facebook? Any other networks?[/QUOTE]I have been a Cupid man for almost 15 years. I don't get any pay chicks from there though, just normal ones. I am sure there are probably ones for pay or whatever but I tend to weed those out instantly. For instance I was talking to a chick from Cali the other day who works in a salon. I asked her about traveling. She asked where I wanted to go.

I told her we could go to Bmanga. She started acting like Bmanga was not good enough for her, whereas other chicks have said they would love to go. So I stopped talking to her. Here is her picture from Punta Cana that she sent me.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2406072]

I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]It's worth it for being able to make contact with other members. It is the same situation like that you are willing to pay for people showing you around which could cost much more.

What can anyone tell me about Sabaneta? Seems like a very mellow and more old time Colombia. I guess what matters most to me is: how close to Medellin and is there Metro connection, getting older so health care availability is important, still like to enjoy the chicas so any mongering or better yet possibilities to meet regular girls / women? My Spanish is good enough to get by. I'm sure plenty of accommodations but nice to know about Apts, don't need tons of action but don't want to get bored and lastly is it flat so easy walking?

I like Lauereles / Estadio and Belen next door but would like to try someplace new.

Thanks in advance!

Saturday Night 12/21/19: Spent most of the night in Parque Lleras. Drank at Patrick's Pub to start the night out. Then walked Parque Lleras for a bit. Was cat-called by a few SWs, one even grabbed me. It wasn't too annoying, but they can be slightly pushy I suppose. Was also appraoched by some street venders, again only slightly annoying. I spent about an hour in a regular club in Parque Lleras. Forget the name of the place. Made some eye contact, but due to limited Spanish I couldn't pull anything off. Called an escort off Mireticulous using whatsapp. She came and picked me up in Parque Lleras and took me to her hotel she was renting. We used UBER. She was about 90% as hot as she was in her pictures. I was pleased, overall a solid 8/10. Only wanted 100 mil pesos for an hour. We ended up spending a few hours together. She was great, did everything I want. I planned on visiting more places Saturday, but got tied up with her. Oh well no big deal.

Sunday 12/22/19: Was very exhausted from a long weekend, so I just stayed in. Called the girl I met at the mansion Friday and she came over and spent a few hours with me. Again was a very good time and I was really happy with the service. These girls really genuinely seem to like their customers and def want to get off as much as you do. She brought over a huge purple vibrater. Charged me 200 mil pesos for a few hours. Again I probably could have negotiated lower, but I spent 40,000 pesos on dinner at McDonalds. For the price of a few cheeseburgers I had a great time with a smoke show 22 year old. I also texted the girl I met at Gustos Friday and she wouldn't budge off 150 USD to come over for a few hours. I was very surprised she stood her ground. I can only assume she has multiple clients willing to pay that rate.

Monday: Parque Lleras again. Parque Lleras may be a tourist trap, but its a very fun tourist trap and anyone here for just a few days can have a great time there. Again warmed up at Patricks and then strolled the Park. Met two Venezuelan SWs, both very beautiful, I would give them a solid 8/10. They wanted 300,000 pesos total to party all night. We went to another bar, sorry forget the name and then we went to Gustos. Gustos was very fun and these girls were a great time. Again they seemed to really enjoy themselves and being in Gustos. I know Gusto's is expensive, but if you have the budget there are some very beautiful woman in there. I also noticed guys clearly in their late 50's with the most beautiful woman in their having a great time. I suppose they had the budget for the hottest girls. The girl's that couldn't score a guy in there seemed to be antsy too. Total reversal of the American bar scene. Even though the two I was with were beautiful, they were actually in the bottom half of attractive woman once I entered Gustos and this was a Monday night. I actually kinda regretted picking them up so early. They were still really fun though, so no real regrets.

Probably going to take it easy until Thursday, but so far Medellin has been a blast and I just wanted to post some information for anyone else debating whether or not they should come. I was really on the fence about investing the time and money into this trip, but after reading the forum I decided to come. Really happy I did and I am also very appreciative for the all the information I got off the forum.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2406072]... I've been reading for a bit and planning a trip to Medellin 1/12-1/20 ish. I'd also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out. ...[/QUOTE]You have enough time. Do a search on this thread for "Facebook". You will get some hints as to how to start. I will give you one chica that has her friends visible - [URL]https://www.facebook.com/mariana.ripoll.9231.[/URL] You will notice almost all her friends are gringos. Look at their friends. When you see a chica you like that lives in Medellin or Bello or Envigado, send her a friend request. Only send a few each day. If you send too many, Facebook will shut you down. If you get a message from Facebook that says something like "Only send friend requests to people you know", I think that is a hint to stop sending requests. You will have better results if you use a real picture in your profile. Put yourself in the chica's shoes; if the person who shows up is not the person in the picture, are you going to be happy?

OMFG!

She's fucking amazing!

Did your communication resume?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406121]I have been a Cupid man for almost 15 years. I don't get any pay chicks from there though, just normal ones. I am sure there are probably ones for pay or whatever but I tend to weed those out instantly. For instance I was talking to a chick from Cali the other day who works in a salon. I asked her about traveling. She asked where I wanted to go.

I told her we could go to Bmanga. She started acting like Bmanga was not good enough for her, whereas other chicks have said they would love to go. So I stopped talking to her. Here is her picture from Punta Cana that she sent me.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for this man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2406010]The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.[/QUOTE]

Do you mean you invite girls from "casas and strip clubs" to your apartment? I guess that is safer because you know where they work, unlike a random Tinder girl.

Sorry about my simple question, a total newbie is here.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2404022][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8HC-UBfGE[/URL]

I'm not sure if you guys watched this video on this guy who got robbed by a girl he met on tinder but I think you all need to watch it.

Cliffs on the story:

- Gringo meets girl on tinder.

- Girl drugs and robs man.

- The following day the girl and her team breaks into all the rooms of the Airbnb and steals multiple items from multiple people.

- Guy does investigative work, gets police involved, he gets back his ID's & credit / debit cards but the perpetrators don't get arrested, the police gives him some crappy excuse and I can only assume they paid off the police.

Stories like this is why I stick to casas and strip clubs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2406160]Saturday Night 12/21/19:

Probably going to take it easy until Thursday, but so far Medellin has been a blast and I just wanted to post some information for anyone else debating whether or not they should come. I was really on the fence about investing the time and money into this trip, but after reading the forum I decided to come. Really happy I did and I am also very appreciative for the all the information I got off the forum.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. I experienced a couple of pushy ones in Lleras, one was especially annoying. I had just spotted a beautiful one sitting alone and went to sit next to her to chat and negotiate, when one who I had already turned down. She was maybe a 6 or 7 at best. She starts harassing me, at first I am just saying "no puedo" and " No puedo, soy demasiado viejo"I telling her the half truth, she kept on so I tell her in my sad broken spanish very loudly in this crowded public place as you know Lleras is " I am in my fifties and I can only do so much in a day and I already had sex three times today, I can't do it again. " With just slight bit of irritation in my voice. She turned to walk away. As soon as she turned her back I turned to the chica I had went to sit next to and asked "Estas Trabajando?" (are you working) she nodded yes, I said "Vamonos". I think the chica that was harassing might have guessed that I was going for the hotter chica and tried to essentially cock block me.

I had posted a photo of the chica I ended up leaving with back in October and some members send me a PM for her contact info. Recently I tried to contact her and the number I had been communicating with her on whatsapp must not be working because those little checks in the messages show they have not even been delivered to her phone. She had also hesitantly sent me a friend request on FB, even though she does not use that for working and she was adamant that I show her that only mutual friends could see each other on my account. Now her FB account is not even active. Makes me wonder what happened.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2406072] I'the also love to try out the Facebook scene but am not sure if I have enough time to build up contacts when I'm this far out.

I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it? Also, if there are any experienced members that will be in town while I am there, I will happily pay for a round or two (of drinks and chicks) in appreciation for you if you'the be willing to show me the ropes and how to get the good deals.

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]Fun Luvr gave you a good tip there, that is like the Who's Who of mongers on that profile. LOL If you get a membership and get private messaging, send me a message and I will seed you with some FB profiles also. One thing to keep in mind too is that if the do not respond right away to your friend requests, you can also add them on FB Messenger and try to communicate, this has worked for me a few times in the past. It probably has not worked more than it has but it is definitely worth a try.

Thanks for the advice Mojo Bandit and Fun Luvr. You convinced me it's worth it to get a subscription. I will message you once it activates and look forward to sharing my adventures.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2406207]Thank you for the report. I experienced a couple of pushy ones in Lleras, one was especially annoying. I had just spotted a beautiful one sitting alone and went to sit next to her to chat and negotiate, when one who I had already turned down. She was maybe a 6 or 7 at best. She starts harassing me, at first I am just saying "no puedo" and " No puedo, soy demasiado viejo"I telling her the half truth, she kept on so I tell her in my sad broken spanish very loudly in this crowded public place as you know Lleras is " I am in my fifties and I can only do so much in a day and I already had sex three times today, I can't do it again. " With just slight bit of irritation in my voice. She turned to walk away. As soon as she turned her back I turned to the chica I had went to sit next to and asked "Estas Trabajando?" (are you working) she nodded yes, I said "Vamonos". I think the chica that was harassing might have guessed that I was going for the hotter chica and tried to essentially cock block me.

I had posted a photo of the chica I ended up leaving with back in October and some members send me a PM for her contact info. Recently I tried to contact her and the number I had been communicating with her on whatsapp must not be working because those little checks in the messages show they have not even been delivered to her phone. She had also hesitantly sent me a friend request on FB, even though she does not use that for working and she was adamant that I show her that only mutual friends could see each other on my account. Now her FB account is not even active. Makes me wonder what happened.[/QUOTE]Speaking of pushy Lleras chicas, I had an incident with one a couple months ago as well.

A buddy and I decided to do a recon of Parque Lleras on a Friday night.

There were a fair amount of chicas walking about the park and the surrounding streets.

Some OK looking, some not so good and a few very nice ones.

Most of the girls were walking about in small groups of 2 or 3.

Anyway, a little hottie broke away from her pack and came and sat next to me on a little bench I was sitting on.

We were just chatting away a bit, flirting, negotiating in a fun way, etc.

After about 10 minutes another girl in her group of 3, who turns out to be the "leader" of her group, approaches us and demands to know if I'm going to go with her friend.

I tell her "tranquilo", we're talking, etc. She, the "leader" then demands 100 dollars from me for talking to her friend.

I laugh and wave her off.

She gets louder and aggressive and tells me to pay up.

I tell her to go away, leave me alone, and that I'm not an idiot.

She then tells me that she's got a knife in her purse.

I tell her that I've got one too (which I didn't), however, she was not even close to me, her knife was not visible, I had plenty of escape paths away from her, and lots of police were around.

I believe it was an idle threat, however, when I got verbally forceful as well she backed down, called me some vulgar names, ordered her friend to leave me, and they left.

I told the pretty and sweet one sitting with me that it was too bad that she chose such bad, loud, and aggressive friends like that.

She just kind of nodded at me.

My buddy and I walked about a little more, saw that particular group of girls walking around too.

We just avoided eachother.

I believe that aggressive one has probably gotten her way with some money from some less experienced foreigners in the past, and that's her gig.

She just gets aggressive, loud and threatens, but goes away if you call her bluff.

Most girls are cool and OK, but of course there are those other kind, like the one I ran into.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2406085]A problem with Uber Eats (and maybe all the delivery services) is the monetary limit of what you can order. I think it is 25 mil. I know it is not enough to order two hamburger combos.[/QUOTE]Never ran into a limit with Domicilios. I know I had a few orders of 50 k and more.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2406153]What can anyone tell me about Sabaneta? Seems like a very mellow and more old time Colombia. I guess what matters most to me is: how close to Medellin and is there Metro connection, getting older so health care availability is important, still like to enjoy the chicas so any mongering or better yet possibilities to meet regular girls / women? My Spanish is good enough to get by. I'm sure plenty of accommodations but nice to know about Apts, don't need tons of action but don't want to get bored and lastly is it flat so easy walking?

I like Lauereles / Estadio and Belen next door but would like to try someplace new.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Sabaneta, close to the Metro stations, Itagui and Sabaneta, is reasonably flat, otherwise it's got some vicious hills going up to the east.

By Metro you're only 10 minutes away from Poblado and under 20 minutes away from El Centro.

Much of Sabaneta is new development, lots of high rises. Two of the largest malls in South America are in the area. Mayorca Mega Plaza at the Itagui metro station and the new Viva plaza at the Envigado station.

I didn't explore too much while I was there, because of the hills and my schedule was full, but there should be opportunities to meet regular girls. I'm not aware of any mongering opportunities.

I came to Cali in November and loved it (see report). Now I'm considering Medellin, San Salvador or Quito for the January MLK trip. Should I go to Medellín or try San Salvador. Tom Jackin seems to travel lots anyone have any recommendations where I should go over the other.

The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Or like Forest Gumps Momma used to say.

"life (mongering) is like a box of chocolates".

Maybe an STD? Maybe a psycho with a knife? Or an angel sent from the heavens LOL or all 3 in 1 LMAO.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2406274]Speaking of pushy Lleras chicas, I had an incident with one a couple months ago as well.

A buddy and I decided to do a recon of Parque Lleras on a Friday night.

There were a fair amount of chicas walking about the park and the surrounding streets.

Some OK looking, some not so good and a few very nice ones.

Most of the girls were walking about in small groups of 2 or 3.

Anyway, a little hottie broke away from her pack and came and sat next to me on a little bench I was sitting on.

We were just chatting away a bit, flirting, negotiating in a fun way, etc.

After about 10 minutes another girl in her group of 3, who turns out to be the "leader" of her group, approaches us and demands to know if I'm going to go with her friend.

I tell her "tranquilo", we're talking, etc. She, the "leader" then demands 100 dollars from me for talking to her friend...[/QUOTE]Interesting that a girl would threaten you with having a knife on her if you didn't pay up in Parque Lleras on a Friday night with all kinds of people around and the Police. An obvious stunt for sure as she has pulled this off before and gotten away with it or she wouldn't of tried it in the first place. I perhaps would of called her bluff in a different way, although it wouldn't of made any difference but perhaps would of frightened her from trying this stunt again, but I doubt it. Instead of telling her I had a knife as well, I would of said to her to get away immediately or I am going to start screaming at the top of my lungs (ayudame), and when the police come over, I will tell them that you said that you had a knife with you, and that if I didn't pay you $ 100 you were going to attack me. Amazing that this girl tried that stunt in Parque Lleras, but not surprising.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2406304]Sabaneta, close to the Metro stations, Itagui and Sabaneta, is reasonably flat, otherwise it's got some vicious hills going up to the east.

By Metro you're only 10 minutes away from Poblado and under 20 minutes away from El Centro.

Much of Sabaneta is new development, lots of high rises. Two of the largest malls in South America are in the area. Mayorca Mega Plaza at the Itagui metro station and the new Viva plaza at the Envigado station.

I didn't explore too much while I was there, because of the hills and my schedule was full, but there should be opportunities to meet regular girls. I'm not aware of any mongering opportunities.[/QUOTE]Thanks JjBee, perfect answer. I was hoping for more single family and all flat but it seems to be the new apartment place. That's ok and I'll check it out in February. If all that new development is going on, it must be very safe and smart money headed that way. Easy to get to is a big plus. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2406072]
I'm thinking of getting a subscription to be able to access the maps and links page and for private messaging. Does anyone know if that is worth it?[/QUOTE]Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2406530]Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?[/QUOTE]Its a no brain er if you serious, otherwise take your $20 get a hair cut.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2406530]Is it worth it, dude it costs 20 bucks a YEAR, you've got to be the cheapest SOB on the planet, seriously?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately inflation is still with us. Now it costs 25 Donald Trump dollars.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2406403]The difficult part is figuring out which one is going to be a winner and which one is going to be a big mistake.

There are plenty of girls who'll agree to whatever his plans are, but have no intention in anything more than a 1 hour cita. There are others who will agree to the terms and after the first hour want a much better deal. There are starfish and scam artists and every other imaginable problem type.

And there are girls who will travel with him and make him feel like a king every day. I'd put my own chances of picking a winner, picking from girls I haven't met yet, at under 50%. And many of these girls I've been following their social media for over 2 years.

If planning on 2 weeks of traveling around Colombia, I'd plan the first 3 or 4 days in Medellin. Start making contacts, figure out which seem like good prospects and take them for a test drive before committing to something longer. If you can't set up the deal, hit them up for contacts. If you're heading to Armenia or Manizales, ask if she has any friends who would like to meet you. Or if the girl you want isn't available to travel, get her to check with her local friends.

Or like Forest Gumps Momma used to say.

"life (mongering) is like a box of chocolates".

Maybe an STD? Maybe a psycho with a knife? Or an angel sent from the heavens LOL or all 3 in 1 LMAO.[/QUOTE]Guys I will save you a great deal of hassle and resentment with taking girls on anything longer than a night with out knowing them before, never ever take them without having sessioned with them at least 2 or 3 times AND spending time on other stuff with them.

Trust me that you just don't want the hassle.

In the past two years I have taken different girls from Medellin traveling to Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bucarmaranga, Bogota, Villa de Leya, etc. , from a few days to two weeks, some repeats, some allowing them to invite their girl friends, these all turned out better than expected BUT in every one of these I got to know the girls, have spent nights and days with them, been to overnight fincas with them, invited them to my apartment and over a course of like 2 to 5 months decided that I can trust them.

My next trip with a paisa chica is in planning now for after the New Year.

Just be smart and have fun!

The Tall Man.

What are my options now?

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2406574]Guys I will save you a great deal of hassle and resentment with taking girls on anything longer than a night with out knowing them before, never ever take them without having sessioned with them at least 2 or 3 times AND spending time on other stuff with them.

Trust me that you just don't want the hassle.

In the past two years I have taken different girls from Medellin traveling to Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bucarmaranga, Bogota, Villa de Leya, etc. , from a few days to two weeks, some repeats, some allowing them to invite their girl friends, these all turned out better than expected BUT in every one of these I got to know the girls, have spent nights and days with them, been to overnight fincas with them, invited them to my apartment and over a course of like 2 to 5 months decided that I can trust them.

My next trip with a paisa chica is in planning now for after the New Year.

Just be smart and have fun!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Rock solid and sound advice as always Tall Man. You, and a very few others on this board have a stable of Chicas that have been totally vetted and make good travelling companions besides just having sex.

Unfortunately, the odds of a guy showing up in Medellin and within a few days identifying one or more Chicas to travel around the Country with that they are going to have an awesome time with are very slim, almost like a "wet dream" .

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366736]Don't go chasing other people's experiences. That is the quickest way to be let down. Create your own experiences. Remember Your Mileage May Vary. Just because Travis McGee was able to climb into the cockpit of an F-22, hit the afterburners, and hotdog it around, does not mean you are going to be able to do the same thing. You might not even be able to get the canopy closed.[/QUOTE]Just for the record, I took that F-22 and flew that shit to the edge of space.

Lets break away from all this useless blathering and conjecture I've been reading here. In short, if you're poorly capable of discerning decent people from persons of malice, you're going to suffer in all area of life, not just here.

Does Anyone know of a short time hotel set up for light bondage? . There's a chica (or 2) that has need for a little attitude adjustment.

Mojo Bandit:

Clear your inbox. (why is the inbox limit so small?

PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2406850]Mojo Bandit:

Clear your inbox. (why is the inbox limit so small?[/QUOTE]Cleared inbox, sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2406811]Rock solid and sound advice as always Tall Man. You, and a very few others on this board have a stable of Chicas that have been totally vetted and make good travelling companions besides just having sex.

Unfortunately, the odds of a guy showing up in Medellin and within a few days identifying one or more Chicas to travel around the Country with that they are going to have an awesome time with are very slim, almost like a "wet dream" .[/QUOTE]Very true and applies to most destinations. Guys think they can just show up and threw around a little money, and they can have.

A model. As you said it almost never happens and many times can be a huge let down. It takes time, local connections and money.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2406855]Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's a first I've heard of that.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2406855]Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.[/QUOTE]Why do you say that? In over 70 trips to Latin America, I have had 0 negative contacts with police. I'd say that I have been lucky if it was only a few trips but it's been a lot of days spent on the ground.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2406855]Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.[/QUOTE]It's not their first priority for sure. I have 1 favorita that always brings her own toothbrush and borrows paste and Listerine before and after the session. Also, what I do is offer them a hit of Listerine as soon as they come in. Unfortunately, the mint doesn't last very long. LOL You can also bring new toothbrushes and offer them to overnight girls, and even non-overnighters.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2406855]PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.[/QUOTE]I know some of PolloNegro girls, he too has shared some photos and videos of them (great fun) with me, he wears some of them out, hehehehe.

I hate to admit this but I also have had one girl pull out of her purse a baggie of glue and started huffing as I was pounding her in the back seat of my car, that stuff stinks like shit, hell it was kind of surreal, here I am pounding her and she is sniffing this baggie of glue and so I pound even harder, she was so out of it I just nutted all over her body and face and hair and she did not care a bit. Like I said almost a surreal experience but not one I care to repeat.

The Tall Man.

I keep spare toothbrushes around. It helps. I find dental hygiene about the same in Colombia as other places. Some pay attention to it and some others don't.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2406855]PolloNegro threw me a hell of a bone with the whatsapp of a sweet vennie, very motivated young lady. Kept her most of my trip.

Also sessioned with a paisa FB chica who was real sweet and spoke excellent English, a bit lazy though. Thicc. TLN, more expensive than VEN but I could talk with her which was nice.

Two more FB girls.

One I got a reference here from another member that turned out to be a dud. Homegirl was super busted.

Another one I just found at random and she was hot but without saying anything she pulled out a glue bottle and started sniffing while I was fuckin her doggy. Guess she was pretty bored LOL. Asked me if I wanted a sniff LOL. I busted quick, showed her the door and washed my balls extra long.

Did not pick up a single street girl as my Spanish suckssss and it was my first time in Medellin. I saw plenty of them though.

Watch out for the cops in this town they are worse than the criminals.

Is dental hygiene not a big thing here because all 4 of these broads had rough breath, and on the TLNs I didn't see one tooth get brushed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2406906]

I hate to admit this but I also have had one girl pull out of her purse a baggie of glue and started huffing as I was pounding her in the back seat of my car, that stuff stinks like shit, hell it was kind of surreal, here I am pounding her and she is sniffing this baggie of glue and so I pound even harder, she was so out of it I just nutted all over her body and face and hair and she did not care a bit. Like I said almost a surreal experience but not one I care to repeat.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yes, I to have to admit that I have done a few Zombies (sacaleros) as well. Not only does the glue have a stench to it, but the hard core Sacaleros have a stench to them as well from sniffing the shit all day. Similar stench (Nicotine) that oozes from the pores of a hard core smoker, but way worse and disgusting. Some of the Sacalero's are fucking hot, and there so hell bent on getting high you can do anything you want with them, and it won't phase them at all, because there so tweaked. But the stench can be so overwhelming it was hard for me to repeat with any of them. And doing a Zombie in the back seat of your car, that's priceless.

One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no señor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2392433]I feel saver with 18-19 year olds (it goes without saying that I only fuck the hot ones, the girl who is at least an 8 in my book), I think they are at the a stage in life where they believe their youth will last forever, there is always older guys who will pay them a few hundred dollars to fuck them all night. The chance of a hot 18-19 year old girl who is desperate enough to steal is much lower than a 22-24 year old. We all lived through those golden years of 18-19, the concept of losing youth simply don't exist. If an 18-19 year old Paisa can consistently make 400 dollars a day fucking older guys, she will not think about stealing an iPhone or drug a guy. I this is just my thinking, it could be totally wrong.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%.

Yes, please, a separate FB thread for Colombia / Medellin would be great.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2400166]You mention this as being the Medellin thread, and in looking at the "entire group" of threads for Colombia, there is a separate "Escort Classified Section".

I believe the group of threads for Colombia has not changed in a long time, or ever. And in looking at the Escort Classified Section, it doesn't look like it's used much, and here in MDE, I look at the FB scene, as kind of an Escort Service, as it is widely used here.

As one poster mentioned, post's gyrate from theme to theme, and given the increased popularity of the Fay Boo scene, which has increased significantly over the years, I believe it warrants it's own thread in Medellin at this time. Than the non-FB guys wouldn't have to wade thru all the Fay Boo chatter commingled with all the other things covered in the Medellin thread, and for the Fay Boo guys, they would have a dedicated thread to share there experiences with the FB Chicas, and they too, wouldn't have to go thru a bunch of chatter they might not be interested in..[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.

Thanks, reading this was helpful and even entertaining at times.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399918]Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Are we supposed to infer that every streetwalker, offering it up for 30-40 k in El Centro is a fresh faced virgin who is only going to do one customer and then retire? Or maybe they're just doing one guy a day to support their family. Yeah right. The best looking options on the street are taking 3-10+ dicks a day for as long as their bodies hold out. After a few years, they're struggling to attract 2-6 a day. By that time they've probably handled 2,000 pipis.

Except for the ones who are at the Mansion, most of the Facebook girls are seeing fewer customers a month than the gems in El Centro see in 3 days. Unless you're assuming the Facebook girls are all cruising Bello and Manrique in new BMWs.

Let's do the math. Figure 5 customers per day each. For street meat, that's 150 k per day, minus anything she has to pay to have a spot on the block. If she works 5 days, that's 750 k per week. Good money.

For the Facebook girls, that's 750 k daily, 3. 75 million weekly or 16 million COP per month. If you want to assume the girl with 13,000 followers has fucked 30% of her followers, she's earned a minimum of 600 million COP in about 18 months. The rough US standard of living equivalent is around $360 k per year.

Time to clue you in on the internet..[/QUOTE]

I guess this is the playbook for "No Hablo Español" guys who like the street scene. Do we also have pretty good chances on Tinder / FB?

Thanks mates!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2401607]I fall into roughly the same category as you. Your chance of picking up a regular girl is pretty good, but they are not going to be nearly as young and hot as the working girls. I would recommend learn a few pick up lines, don't get too drunk and have a set of lines ready for google translate. It is fun to play the pick up game a bit, but if the normal girls are not up to your standard or luck is running against, you can always go to Gusto or Paradise or el Faisan. You literally have to try very hard to not get laid in Medellin.

My typical routine on Thursday, Friday or Saturday is to start at the mansion around 9 pm (I don't recommend stay in the hotel, just pay the 50 k to enter the bar). At there you can practice dancing with a few girls to warm up. I once danced, grinded and played with a 22 year old smoking-hot paisa for the price of a beer. If you are lucky, you will find a girl that you want to party all night with, you need to negotiate for a price at the mansion with her, almost any girl will accept 500 k to party and fuck all night (make sure you explicitly mention the services such as BBBJ and / or DFK that you want receive). You then take her to gusto, where you can dance and play with her all night, and then take her home to fuck her brain out. It is possible to follow up with some hot morning sex (depending on how much you guys connected). If after gusto closes you still feel like partying, take her to Fahrenheit or paradise, depending on how drunk you are, you either get a Uber or take a taxi from Lleras. I don't recommend the taxi right in front of Gusto, they will charge you 50 k.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2407221]Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.[/QUOTE]They won't turn you away for that. -DP.

Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.

2) how much is a good tip for the front desk / door guys? 5 k? 10 k? Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio, I want to make sure I get good treatment from the staff. I'm fluent in Spanish.

Thanks a ton Jjbee, Wolf, Pollo, Surfer, Tallman, and many others. Ill be sure to write a good trip report.

I haven't had any experience with customs or sex toys. I do know you can buy sex toys in Colombia, which is what I would do if I decided I wanted to have them.

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2407221]Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2407119]One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no seor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.[/QUOTE]That's been my exp. With Colombian cops as well, they are mostly trying to make sure law and order are uokept than anything else. But I am not naive and suspect they want to extract $$ if able, but not nearly as horrible as Mexican Cops in my experience.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2407131]Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.[/QUOTE]Why 3 different accommodations? Why not just stay in one place?

Two massage places I've tried were Jade Palace and Om Spa for Men. Neither have a particularly diverse selection--Jade only had 3 masseuses when I went in the afternoon. I went with the prettiest and got a perfunctory amateurish massage, followed by a bbj and cowgirl. Cost was around 150 k plus 30 k for the uncovered BJ. Not bad service but not great either. Far better deals to be had elsewhere. I went to Om spa a few more times as it was near my rental and it kind of was my fallback place for when my FB date stood me up and I couldn't find anything else. They were way better at massages and knew how to tease, but would never offer anything more than a happy ending, and only if you tipped like 50 k. I'd love to have a proper tantric massage followed by mind-blowing sex but so far that unicorn has remained elusive.

If you get bored of sex and want to do something more touristy take a day trip to Guatape and check out La Piedra. A bus leaves the north terminal every hour, takes around 2 hours and costs 10 k each way. Be warned that climbing La Piedra is no easy undertaking but the view is absolutely killer.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2406979]Yes, I to have to admit that I have done a few Zombies (sacaleros) as well. Not only does the glue have a stench to it, but the hard core Sacaleros have a stench to them as well from sniffing the shit all day. Similar stench (Nicotine) that oozes from the pores of a hard core smoker, but way worse and disgusting. Some of the Sacalero's are fucking hot, and there so hell bent on getting high you can do anything you want with them, and it won't phase them at all, because there so tweaked. But the stench can be so overwhelming it was hard for me to repeat with any of them. And doing a Zombie in the back seat of your car, that's priceless.[/QUOTE]That's exactly the word that I was searching for in describing fucking a glue huffing hottie in the small back seat of my car with rain pouring down and this hottie could care less which hole gets my load, it is priceless!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Talon;2407318]Why 3 different accommodations? Why not just stay in one place?

Two massage places I've tried were Jade Palace and Om Spa for Men. Neither have a particularly diverse selection--Jade only had 3 masseuses when I went in the afternoon. I went with the prettiest and got a perfunctory amateurish massage, followed by a bbj and cowgirl. Cost was around 150 k plus 30 k for the uncovered BJ. Not bad service but not great either. Far better deals to be had elsewhere. I went to Om spa a few more times as it was near my rental and it kind of was my fallback place for when my FB date stood me up and I couldn't find anything else. They were way better at massages and knew how to tease, but would never offer anything more than a happy ending, and only if you tipped like 50 k. I'd love to have a proper tantric massage followed by mind-blowing sex but so far that unicorn has remained elusive.

If you get bored of sex and want to do something more touristy take a day trip to Guatape and check out La Piedra. A bus leaves the north terminal every hour, takes around 2 hours and costs 10 k each way. Be warned that climbing La Piedra is no easy undertaking but the view is absolutely killer.[/QUOTE]Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

I've done tantric massage in Thailand before and it was great. That was actually what made me interested in learning a little about it but maybe that'll need to be for my next trip back there. I actually was thinking of doing the guatape trip but there is a deal on trip advisor for only 37 $. I know it's a little more expensive than doing it myself but it should be significantly more convenient with their transportation and boat ride and I'm hoping I'll be able to meet other tourists. What do you guys think? Also is it worth it to bring a girl to guatape?

Thanks.

Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance!

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2407477]Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance![/QUOTE]I think you don't have to worry about drink price. The most expensive places like Gusto are still under 10 USD a drink. The most expensive beer at Beer Store by Lleras park is about 15 mils. Beers are cheaper in El Centrol. The lowest price I know at places where you can have sex on site cost about 4 or 5 mils for local beer. Strip clubs cost just a little more. The lowest price I have seen is 2 beers for 5 mils in a local bar.

You can check the Medellin list. It has prices in it.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2407254]I guess this is the playbook for "No Hablo Espaol" guys who like the street scene. Do we also have pretty good chances on Tinder / FB?

Thanks mates![/QUOTE]If cruising around the streets of Medellin at 1 am, picking up local girls and building relationships with them using nothing but google translate is doable, then getting girls from fb and tinder is a walk in the park. I have about 10-15 fb Chicas on my weekly rotation, all of them are between 18-21 and they are stellar in every way. There are about 30 fb chicas on my second tier list, they are older (between 21-23), I only fuck one or two girls on this list every week. Rtff, all the information you need to get started on fb is written here. I'm heading back to Medellin today, I have a hot threesome from two of my fb princesses waiting for me.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2407452]Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

[/QUOTE]What happen if you like the first or second place and the rest suck, not to mention that you are wasting a lot of time moving between places? You try to solve one problem by creating a whole new set of issues.

You are staying at Mansion, followed by an ABB, energy living and another hotel. That is 4 places

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2407343]That's exactly the word that I was searching for in describing fucking a glue huffing hottie in the small back seat of my car with rain pouring down and this hottie could care less which hole gets my load, it is priceless!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I am surprised that you have only met one. I agree some of them are hot.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2407276]Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.
[/QUOTE]There may be a per chica charge if you book the whole day. Pollo Negro has a recent report about it. The places also have rates for multiple hours. You should just go talk to the front desk to work out a deal since you are fluent in Spanish. Sometimes you can just give a tip, they will let you stay longer.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2407276] Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio.[/QUOTE]I think you are staying at the wrong location.

Hot water is not reliable. Some rooms may have it if you are lucky.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2407276]Hey guys,

I'm headed to MDE finally for 9 days in January. After reading the past 200 pages and taking notes I have 2 questions:

1) What are the up to date hrly hotels with hot water in centro? I understand hotel premier plaza (16 k), Calle real (22 k), and hotel zona rosa (13 k) are the main ones. (and possibly Ensensonte (12 k) along with these.).

I understand these are hourly rates, Do they have daily rates as well, say if I wanted to set up camp there? I'm looking to bring the SW back for 2 leches, say spend an hour and half with each one for GFE, shower and shit. I figure 50-60 k will do the trick.

2) how much is a good tip for the front desk / door guys? 5 k? 10 k? Considering I'm going to be spending all of my 8 days hanging out in centro though I'm staying near estadio, I want to make sure I get good treatment from the staff. I'm fluent in Spanish.

Thank s a ton Jjbee, Wolf, Pollo, Surfer, Tallman, and many others. Ill be sure to write a good trip report.[/QUOTE]In answer your questions. The rates you posted for short time are correct but are really good for a couple of hours, versus one hour. At the Calle Real you will get three hours for 22 K or it's 60 K for all night. At the Zona Rosa they are not licensed to accept foreigners overnight so it's not an option. I don't know what the overnight rate is at Premium Plaza but probably around 60 K a night as well. As far as multiple guests if your renting by the day, you need to confirm that there is no extra charge for bringing in more than one girl a day. Your best option for this will probably be the Premium Plaza Hotel. Get a room on an upper floor in the middle of the building if your staying at Premium Plaza overnight. Make sure you have a legible color copy of your Passport along with a photocopy of your date of entry into the Country, you will need this for renting overnight. And if your going to be doing an overnight with a Chica, they will need a copy of their Cedula or other ID. They are very strict about this for someone staying overnight so make sure they have ID which may be an issue with some of the girls, I know from first hand experience about this, so I am giving you a heads up. Short time won't be an issue, and most places won't ask to see anybody's ID, as long as they look old enough.

In regards to tipping. A 10 K tip is huge, you can get girls for as low as 20 K. I use both the Premium Plaza and Zona Rosa a lot and tip anywhere from 1 to 2 K to the reception girls for short time use. It may sound cheap, but trust me it's not. Just the idea of someone getting a tip is almost unheard of in these hotels and when I arrive they give me an extra towel and soap. I guess I am a preferred guest at these establishments. There are lots of 5 K Hotels on the backside of the Church, so 5 K as a tip is way too much as well, unless your staying overnight, etc. And they are changing towels for you etc. Then it's warranted.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2407477]Forgive the newbie question, please. Colombia will be a new experience for me. I live in the US and have spent ALOT of time in Tijuana over the last three years. But looking to branch out.

While I enjoy many aspects of the game, I enjoy the chase. Finding a SG for a quick 30 minutes has its place. But a good night for me is chilling with a fun chica for a while over drinks, flirting and then heading back to my place. I spent a lot of time reading and I'm considering Lleras a must visit at least one or two nights. I have a pretty good understanding of the chica pricing structure. But, what should I expect for drink pricing at a bar? Is there a gringo price and an inflated chica price? I ask because in my Tijuana trips, I often spend more money on alcohol than chicas. I'm just trying to get an idea on prices. Thanks for any guidance![/QUOTE]Gusto's drink price is approaching the price of a dive bar in San Francisco. I almost always spend more money on drinks than on girls. The most I have ever spent was 700 dollars on drinks in one night at Gusto, I bought multiple bottles of whiskey and was buying rounds left and right. I had a great time, but it did hurt my wallet a little bit (no regrets though, I will do it again in a heart beat). If you want a VIP style party; drink, dance and play with a group of super hot chicas all night, Gusto is the place to go. Compare to Europe, Vegas, NYC and San Francisco, Gusto is extremely affordable. I would have easily dropped 5000+ dollars (which is way above my budget) had I partied elsewhere. Paradise and la isla are another overpriced places where you can easily spend hundreds of dollars on drinks. Other than those three places, as far as I know, all other bars and clubs in Medellin are very affordable. Drinks cost about 1/3 to 1/5 the price of gusto and paradise.

[QUOTE=Kavin76;2407221]Anyone ever run into problems bringing sex toys and lingerie into Medellin if they check your bags at customs? Haha. I don't care what they think about me, but I worry they could turn me away because I look like a sex tourist with a porno kit in my bags.[/QUOTE]Rare to have your bags checked on entry, out of 4 trips they did X-ray my luggage once but never opened it any of the times.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407502]There may be a per chica charge if you book the whole day. Pollo Negro has a recent report about it. The places also have rates for multiple hours. You should just go talk to the front desk to work out a deal since you are fluent in Spanish. Sometimes you can just give a tip, they will let you stay longer.

I think you are staying at the wrong location.

Hot water is not reliable. Some rooms may have it if you are lucky.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yea I will go to the front desk at each place, I think hotel EROS and hotel Palmetto in Raudul will be good ST hotels if they have hot water. Thanks for the tips.

And I chose to stay at an air bnb in estadio because it is right by the metro, $12 a night (private place), and next to calle 70 for night life. I won't be bringing any girls overnight, I like my own space LOL! I don't want to hang out in Lleras with gringos and over priced pros, and I don't mind getting a taxi or metro to centro every morning.

I am looking forward to hitting up grill occidental like you said, can't wait for the fat strippers (I'm an ass man)! : the.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407488]I think you don't have to worry about drink price. The most expensive places like Gusto are still under 10 USD a drink. The most expensive beer at Beer Store by Lleras park is about 15 mils. Beers are cheaper in El Centrol. The lowest price I know at places where you can have sex on site cost about 4 or 5 mils for local beer. Strip clubs cost just a little more. The lowest price I have seen is 2 beers for 5 mils in a local bar.

You can check the Medellin list. It has prices in it.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Just found the list and map. I'm not sure if I'm more overwhelmed by the thought of a new locale or the vast amount of info on this board. Thank you Nounce. And really, thanks to all!

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2407119]One Sunday I headed over to park Periodista to hang out. I had been there many times both day and night and have drank and watched smokers etc. Well this particular night it had few people. I bought a large Aguela Light and started drinking by one of the flower boxes next to the street when a policeman walked up to me and told me that I was in a park and there are laws against drinking in a park. My mind flashed on all the times I had been there and what goes on and thought well this may be a shakedown. I apologized and told him that I didn't know about the law and then asked if it was OK to pour it in the flower box. He gave e me a look like he couldn't believe my question and said no seor please finish it, just don't buy another. He thought it was crazy to waste a beer. Better to let me break the law than waste a beer. No shakedown, no hassle. Maybe I was lucky but a story I've told many times even to cops in USA who would never be as nice.[/QUOTE]Had a similar situation in Parque Lleras. Bought beers and sat in the park to drink them. Cop came up and said we couldn't drink in the park. We thanked him, got up walked 20 feet out of the park and continued drinking.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2407131]Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you guys quickly for helping me plan my upcoming trip. I'll be doing quite a bit of exploring during my trip so I should be able to have a lot to report back. I'm planning on staying at the mansion, a couple nights at an Airbnb, a couple nights at energy living and a couple nights at hotel Madeira. I was planning on hitting up the mansion, fb girls, casas, and clubs so hopefully I can experience a little of everything.

One thing I was curious about was the massages here. Is there a place where I can get the masseuse to teach me a little about massaging as well as getting FS? I figure pretty much every massage place does FS but I was hoping to learn a little bit myself.

Also, if anyone has any other advice for my 10 day trip, I'the love to hear it. And if anyone else is going to be in Medellin during my trip, I'the love to meet up and monger with a friend. First rounds on me.[/QUOTE]In Bogota there are plenty of massage places which are just full service brothels. There are only a few like that in Medellin. From my experience the girls there know nothing about massage.

There are plenty of regular massage spas in Medellin where you can get an excellent massage, but you're unlikely to get any more than a handjob. You'll pay more for the good massage and handjob than you'll pay for the lousy massage and full service.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2407452]Since my trip was 10 days, I didn't want to book 1 place and then have it not work out well. Figure with 3 different places, at least 1 will be chica friendly and I'll get to try more different things.

I've done tantric massage in Thailand before and it was great. That was actually what made me interested in learning a little about it but maybe that'll need to be for my next trip back there. I actually was thinking of doing the guatape trip but there is a deal on trip advisor for only 37 $. I know it's a little more expensive than doing it myself but it should be significantly more convenient with their transportation and boat ride and I'm hoping I'll be able to meet other tourists. What do you guys think? Also is it worth it to bring a girl to guatape?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]And here's where Facebook shines.

Why spend $40 for a van ride with several other gringos, when you can hit one of the many Facebook girls with a car. You get a personalized tour, in a comfortable car, with a hot chica who will make sure you enjoy every aspect of the tour.

JjBee62, BMo814,

How do you find FB girls? FB search doesn't let one filter by age or even sex. Do you mine the list of followers of a known chica? Is there a better way?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2399102]I use my regular Facebook page. I don't recommend this for most people, but I have a couple of reasons why it works for me.

1. I'm an open book. Any regular friends and family on my Facebook aren't going to be too surprised if someone points out I'm seeing hookers in Medellin. Most will ask to see some pictures.

2. I'd rather not switch back and forth between accounts.

I do have security set up a bit tighter than normal. It limits the exposure between the two groups of friends. I also don't make a habit of commenting every time a chica puts up a picture. I've set up a friend list that's just the Medellin chicas. Occasionally, if I want to post something just for chicas, I can make it so it's only visible for them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BMo814;2399295]I used my real FB as well despite what many say on the forum. I don't have any co workers on my fb and my family knows what's up with me. Mr E, depends on how motivated they are, I had 4 dates with FB girls and they all arrived on time more or less. Even one arrived earlier than set date. Fine little 19 year old thing. Medellin treated me right, I made a few missteps but that's on me. I'll def be back ASAP.[/QUOTE]

I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407492]What happen if you like the first or second place and the rest suck, not to mention that you are wasting a lot of time moving between places? You try to solve one problem by creating a whole new set of issues.

You are staying at Mansion, followed by an ABB, energy living and another hotel. That is 4 places[/QUOTE]Perhaps another way to look at staying places in Colombia should be considered. As an example, I visited Santa Marta earlier this year. I booked a room at the Marriot, which had an Olympic pool, ocean views, AC, Netflix, etc. In a relatively safe neighborhood, and in addition to this, I rented a room with AC adjacent to the street scenes there for 60,000 COP a night for my entire stay. I made it clear with the front desk what I would be doing, ie. Bringing in random girls to dump loads in, and no problem, they were just happy to rent the room. And I had no intention of bringing any of the girls I pulled off the street to the Marriot.

So as an example, a guy could stay say in Laureles or Poblado in a nice neighborhood, with lots of nice places to eat around, kind of like a little "safer haven", and I say that lightly, given being held up at gunpoint recently in Poblado, and besides this place, have a room at ground zero always available. Makes perfect sense to have two places if the money is not an issue and fits how you like to roll. For those not into El Centro though, just ignore this post and head directly to one of the Hotels you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407497]I am surprised that you have only met one. I agree some of them are hot.[/QUOTE]He's met more than one, you can count on that.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2407583]I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?
[/QUOTE]Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2407510]Gusto's drink price is approaching the price of a dive bar in San Francisco. I almost always spend more money on drinks than on girls. The most I have ever spent was 700 dollars on drinks in one night at Gusto, I bought multiple bottles of whiskey and was buying rounds left and right. I had a great time, but it did hurt my wallet a little bit (no regrets though, I will do it again in a heart beat). If you want a VIP style party; drink, dance and play with a group of super hot chicas all night, Gusto is the place to go. Compare to Europe, Vegas, NYC and San Francisco, Gusto is extremely affordable. I would have easily dropped 5000+ dollars (which is way above my budget) had I partied elsewhere. Paradise and la isla are another overpriced places where you can easily spend hundreds of dollars on drinks. Other than those three places, as far as I know, all other bars and clubs in Medellin are very affordable. Drinks cost about 1/3 to 1/5 the price of gusto and paradise.[/QUOTE]Did you order by the glass? It will lower your bill if you get a bottle. You could get 7 bottles of whisky in the VIP booth for what you paid at Gusto. Same thing at La Isla. They have large and small bottle that you can order.

Where did you stay? I assume it was a good place and girl friendly since you didn't mention anything about it.

[QUOTE=GaiusMarius;2396264]You seasoned guys have covered so much on here and it's much appreciated. I have learned a lot from these boards and I will leave out details that have been talked about many times.

On this trip I decided to book an AirBnB at the suggestion of another monger. Last time I stayed at a hotel and getting a separate room every time I found a Facebook chica was not going to happen. I tried to hit all of the avenues on this trip but did not get to venture the Centro scene. Next time for sure!

Most of my days consisted of a massage in the morning and a Facebook or Tinder chica to my apartment at night. On 1 night I had a massage in the AM, Tinder chick in the middle of the day and Lleras chick at night but this was a bit too much for me. By the 3rd time I was "shooting" droplets. On a side note, any supplements you guys know of to increase semen volume?

I took JB's advice and basically copied and pasted a suggestion he wrote on here every time I reached out to a FB chica. It goes something like this, "Hola. Como ests? Quiero verte. En dos horas. No se. Dos o tres horas. Siempre pago ciento cincuenta mas veinte para el taxi. " The shit always worked plain and simple. Thanks JB LOL.

Knowing Spanish went a long way for sure. The girls would show up quiet and nervous. After a few drinks and laughs they were super friendly and did not want to leave it seemed. All GFE with everything on the menu. Most were not too excited about anal. The girls I came across had bad experiences with it and I left it at that. Prices for all of the Facebook and Tinder chicks was 150 k but I always gave them 200 K...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407504]In answer your questions. The rates you posted for short time are correct but are really good for a couple of hours, versus one hour. At the Calle Real you will get three hours for 22 K or it's 60 K for all night. At the Zona Rosa they are not licensed to accept foreigners overnight so it's not an option. I don't know what the overnight rate is at Premium Plaza but probably around 60 K a night as well. As far as multiple guests if your renting by the day, you need to confirm that there is no extra charge for bringing in more than one girl a day. Your best option for this will probably be the Premium Plaza Hotel. Get a room on an upper floor in the middle of the building if your staying at Premium Plaza overnight. Make sure you have a legible color copy of your Passport along with a photocopy of your date of entry into the Country, you will need this for renting overnight. And if your going to be doing an overnight with a Chica, they will need a copy of their Cedula or other ID. They are very strict about this for someone staying overnight so make sure they have ID which may be an issue with some of the girls, I know from first hand experience about this, so I am giving you a heads up. Short time won't be an issue, and most places won't ask to see anybody's ID, as long as they look old enough.

In regards to tipping. A 10 K tip is huge, you can get girls for as low as 20 K. I use both the Premium Plaza and Zona Rosa a lot and tip anywhere from 1 to 2 K to the reception girls for short time use. It may sound cheap, but trust me it's not. Just the idea of someone getting a tip is almost unheard of in these hotels and when I arrive they give me an extra towel and soap. I guess I am a preferred guest at these establishments. There are lots of 5 K Hotels on the backside of the Church, so 5 K as a tip is way too much as well, unless your staying overnight, etc. And they are changing towels for you etc. Then it's warranted.[/QUOTE]I was told once Zona Rosa is for 3 hours but I have never tested it. I have gotten various prices up to 20 K for reason unknown to me until I got Pollo Negro to check it with me to confirm the price. Same thing for the 5 K place, I have been charged for 16 K in different visit. I guess it's kick back or different time length. Premium Plaza doesn't allow Venezuelan chicks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407584]
So as an example, a guy could stay say in Laureles or Poblado in a nice neighborhood, with lots of nice places to eat around, kind of like a little "safer haven", and I say that lightly, given being held up at gunpoint recently in Poblado, and besides this place, have a room at ground zero always available. Makes perfect sense to have two places if the money is not an issue and fits how you like to roll. For those not into El Centro though, just ignore this post and head directly to one of the Hotels you mentioned.[/QUOTE]I don't follow this. If your purpose coming to Medellin is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2407583]I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.[/QUOTE]Yes. I paid 300 K for an hour. This was Oct 2018. While it was the most I paid for a chica on that trip, she was the hottest. I had a hard time deciding which chica during the lineup. IMO, great quality chicas at this place. Next year, it's going to be ALL about Centro Vennies and yes (sorry guys that are tired of this abbrev) FB chicas. Jajaja. My trip is not until later next year but I've already got 10 chicas in the bullpen. The hardest part now is the dreaded wait to go fuck them!!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407634]I don't follow this thinking. If your purpose is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.[/QUOTE]As you are aware, things here in Colombia versus other parts of the world are very in-expensive, hence money is not an issue for me personally with things being so cheap.

I like staying in nice places, although my affinity is for the El Centro Chicas, and just because I do them, doesn't translate for me having to staying in El Centro, but I do occasionally. And yes, I will easily spend more money on hotels at times, than on the Chicas, and I can see on the surface how that doesn't make any sense. I stay in Poblado but play in El Centro, so when I'm done at the playground in El Centro, I look forward to coming back to a very nice place to stay. I can afford to go to all the high end Chica places everybody mentions, but honestly, I don't think the experiences would be any better. Yes the women will be better dressed, etc. But once their clothes are off, what's the difference?

So what I was suggesting for others that can afford it, and who like staying in nice digs, yet like the SW's, it's an option to have two places at an added cost of no more than $ 20 USD a day, chump change for many. I had the best of both worlds while I was in Santa Marta, luxury digs with an ocean-view, and a separate place for the SW's. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.

Your question makes total sense, why would a low level predator as an another poster has described guys who like the El Centro SW's have two places to stay if he is banging low end SW's. It all boils down to how they roll, their finances, and I guess at least here in Colombia, I am kind of like a "slum dog millionaire".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407632]I was told once Zona Rosa is for 3 hours but I have never tested it. I have gotten various prices up to 20 K for reason unknown to me until I got Pollo Negro to check it with me to confirm the price. Same thing for the 5 K place, I have been charged for 16 K in different visit. I guess it's kick back or different time length. Premium Plaza doesn't allow Venezuelan chicks.[/QUOTE]I have always been charged only 13 K at Hotel Zona Rosa and have stayed there up to two and a half hours but have never asked how much time is included, but since I tip the girls a whopping 2 K I guess I am a preferred guest. As far as the 5 K place, I don't know which one your mentioning, but there are several on the backside of the Church. It's strange that you are getting varying prices. It may be an occasional person figures they can charge a gringo more money and pocket the difference which wouldn't surprise me.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2407583]I have not been to MDE in nearly a decade and my have things changed. I must look like a mark because I am being quoted these crazy ass prices by these girls. I went to Fase Dos last night -there werent that many great looking women in there. First, I made the mistake of sitting at a table, I was told I needed to order a bottle for the priviiledge of sitting there, I took my ass to the bar -tried to observe the lay of the land. I saw one babe -decided to ask how much--she said 600 K pesos LOOOOOLLLLLLLLL, I ran out of there, took Uber to La Isla -supposedly the best but when I got there -there were a few cuties but overall avg looking babes.

I also went to Lutron, I was quoted 300 K for one hour, had an expensive beer and left. Is that the correct price?

After a string of misses and bad luck, this FINE ASS uber driver picked me up. We've exchanged numbers so we shall see.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nounce;2407588]Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.[/QUOTE]I just got to speak my mind. I usually head to the strip clubs with my Colombian friend, let me tell you this, if ANY chica in any of these strip clubs you mention, I have been to them all numerous times, would tell me that her price is 600 mil an hour I would be yelling at that girl screaming you puta, and I learned never to take any shit like this from any of these putas, and I learned this from my Colombian buddy.

And if more of us gringos would call these girls out on this scam they would wise up. I have called a few out on this exact issue, at the end of the day they are nothing more than a puta.

And if you think that any of the big bouncers, like the ones at Fase II would come to her rescue and mess with me, BS as I am bigger than these guys so they leave me alone I am a simple and reasonable guy but don't provoke me.

OK now I am done with my rant. So start putting these girls in place, there are a thousand right behind them who want your business, next!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407634]I don't follow this. If your purpose coming to Medellin is to monger in El Centro, you are spending a lot more on hotel than on chicas.[/QUOTE]If I find a place I like, then I can just book that place again. It's simply a safety precaution to make sure one of the places I'm staying will let me bring guests back. I just want to make sure I'm having a good time.

Jonnywalker. When you going to be in Medellin? Want to meet up?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407628]Did you order by the glass? It will lower your bill if you get a bottle. You could get 7 bottles of whisky in the VIP booth for what you paid at Gusto. Same thing at La Isla. They have large and small bottle that you can order.[/QUOTE]That night I got one bottle of Johnny walker black, at least 15+ coronas and I brought many rounds of tequila shots (about 5 or 6 shots per round). You are right, if I ordered two bottles of tequila instead of buying shots, I could have saved a lot of money. It was a good Thursday night, the DJ was killing it and I was with my favorite girls. I kept a mental math on the cost all the way until we finished whiskey. One thing I like about Medellin is that doesn't matter how fucked you are, the cost is never going to blow up in your face like in the states or in Europe. One word of advice for the party people, don't buy whiskey for the girls in paradise. For some reason the whisky drinks are insanely expensive there. If you really want to party and drink whiskey, you should just get a bottle (especially in paradise).

I'm in transit at Panama right now. In two hours, I will be back in heaven again. It's hard to put in words how happy I am right now. It's like going into a good German FKK for the second time when I was in my 20's.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407588]Lutron's price is about right. Fase Dos is 200 K. Other members have been quoted the same crazy price. You need to negotiate when you get the 600K price. Thursday and Friday nights are better at La Isla.[/QUOTE]In my experience, Thursday at la isla is the best. Room cost 300 k for CFS, you have to negotiate extras such as BBBJ and DFK with the girl. Some will just do it for 300, others will ask for another 100.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2407661]I just got to speak my mind. I usually head to the strip clubs with my Colombian friend, let me tell you this, if ANY chica in any of these strip clubs you mention, I have been to them all numerous times, would tell me that her price is 600 mil an hour I would be yelling at that girl screaming you puta, and I learned never to take any shit like this from any of these putas, and I learned this from my Colombian buddy.

And if more of us gringos would call these girls out on this scam they would wise up. I have called a few out on this exact issue, at the end of the day they are nothing more than a puta.

And if you think that any of the big bouncers, like the ones at Fase II would come to her rescue and mess with me, BS as I am bigger than these guys so they leave me alone I am a simple and reasonable guy but don't provoke me.

OK now I am done with my rant. So start putting these girls in place, there are a thousand right behind them who want your business, next!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything.

And you saying, "at end of the day they are nothing more than a puta".

Come on man.

Really?

There are good and bad ones, just like mongers.

I could care less what your Colombian buddy does either.

I know that's not the norm.
I've been hangin in Colombia / Medellin for a long time.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2407910]

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?
[/QUOTE]I think it will have an effect. If the chica frequently get an uncomfortable response, it is more likely she will be conditioned to not do it. The chica is conditioned the other way around now.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2407808] One word of advice for the party people, don't buy whiskey for the girls in paradise. For some reason the whisky drinks are insanely expensive there. [/QUOTE]Maybe that is why they don't allow guest to bring the left over bottle from the club into paradise.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407654]I have always been charged only 13 K at Hotel Zona Rosa and have stayed there up to two and a half hours but have never asked how much time is included, but since I tip the girls a whopping 2 K I guess I am a preferred guest. As far as the 5 K place, I don't know which one your mentioning, but there are several on the backside of the Church. It's strange that you are getting varying prices. It may be an occasional person figures they can charge a gringo more money and pocket the difference which wouldn't surprise me.[/QUOTE]The 5 K place is Valencia. The one on the second floor at the intersection. The casher is in an iron cage inside.

I suspect the girl ordered and pocketed the condom when it costed more at Zona Rosa. There is another one w few doors from Zona Rosa is the same thing.

Hey guys.

Thanks but I am not going to argue with a puta for quoting crazy ass prices nor will I try to make a scene, normally when I travel I try to maintain a very low profile and not attract too much attention.

I will post a bit more later but I have another quick report, I am an avid cigar smoker -and for the past 3 days I have been frequenting the Habanos Point Cigar shop on Calle 10 a. The attendant is great, the poor guy is a mechanical engineer from Venezuela, speaks fluent english but the owner is an asshole. I met him (owner) yesterday, brought him a drink but the dude barely gave me the time of day. He also called and ordered the shop close early when the shop had clients spending money and watching the NFL game.

Again no scene, just taking my money elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2407956]The 5 K place is Valencia. The one on the second floor at the intersection. The casher is in an iron cage inside.

I suspect the girl ordered and pocketed the condom when it costed more at Zona Rosa. There is another one w few doors from Zona Rosa is the same thing.[/QUOTE]Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?

Anyways, I don't use the 5 K Hotels as I do have standards. And if your wondering why the cashiers are in cages at the 5 K hotels, that's to protect them from getting stabbed and / or robbed. It can get pretty crazy there when the locals have been pounding down on the booze.

And as a side note, on the block you mentioned there are girls so desperate that they will go for as low as 15 K, so when you pay the 5 K for the room which includes a condom, you will be out 20 K, or about $ 6 USD. What you will get for this is includes an ugly and / or fat Chica that will jerk you off to get you hard, then slap on a condom, suck you till your hard, and then they either get on you, or have you get on them until you pop. This is pretty much is the "norm" for the poorer locals who frequent these places.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407975]Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?
[/QUOTE]It is my guess that the higher price is with condom. I did not order or see the condom myself. I am only guessing the girl took the condom. Valencia is not bad compare to Zona Rosa.

I agree with you Surfer. Not to mention all the nasty critters that live on the bed swimming in the reservoir left by patrons. To each their own.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407975]Not sure if I understand what your saying about the Condom, did they charge you for it, but didn't give it to you, and than pocketed what they charged you for it?

Anyways, I don't use the 5 K Hotels as I do have standards. And if your wondering why the cashiers are in cages at the 5 K hotels, that's to protect them from getting stabbed and / or robbed. It can get pretty crazy there when the locals have been pounding down on the booze.

And as a side note, on the block you mentioned there are girls so desperate that they will go for as low as 15 K, so when you pay the 5 K for the room which includes a condom, you will be out 20 K, or about $ 6 USD. What you will get for this is includes an ugly and / or fat Chica that will jerk you off to get you hard, then slap on a condom, suck you till your hard, and then they either get on you, or have you get on them until you pop. This is pretty much is the "norm" for the poorer locals who frequent these places.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407651]
Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.
[/QUOTE]I enjoy it more in the nicer place. I never like the ST rooms around El Centro.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2407910]I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything..[/QUOTE]Your probably right, now I read my post and it does sound harsh, that's not me in general, maybe its the drama that I have picked up being in Medellin for so long, hehehehe.

To scream at a girl calling her puta I do not do, just being dramatic. In 10 years this has happened probably twice, I usually never get that pissed off but just human.

Its not just dealing with putas, twice in the past 10 years I have kicked in the door panel of a taxi who literally aimed his car at me while I waited for him to pass, this costeno gets out of his taxi, he is bajo yes all 5'-6" of him, typical cosento, yelling at me until he walks up to me well he will think twice about showing curtesy to another gringo waited at the curb for him to pass. Little costeno punk gets back into his taxi whimpering like a baby.

But yes I am bigger, taller and heavier than 90% of the big bouncers you see at the front door of the strip clubs, so I never get hassled. In Colombia culture especially big tall guys get respect be they Colombian or gringos.

I will try to more accurate and precise next time, and leave out the inherited paisa drama, hehehe.

Now my best Colombian buddy is another story, he was born and raised in the bad areas of Medellin and he is a beast when provoked but an all around nice friendly guy otherwise.

And regardless of all this I love Colombia and my life here not to overshadow the chicas.

Happy New Year to everyone!

The Tall Man.

Low level predator? I resemble that remark. LOL!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2407651]As you are aware, things here in Colombia versus other parts of the world are very in-expensive, hence money is not an issue for me personally with things being so cheap.

I like staying in nice places, although my affinity is for the El Centro Chicas, and just because I do them, doesn't translate for me having to staying in El Centro, but I do occasionally. And yes, I will easily spend more money on hotels at times, than on the Chicas, and I can see on the surface how that doesn't make any sense. I stay in Poblado but play in El Centro, so when I'm done at the playground in El Centro, I look forward to coming back to a very nice place to stay. I can afford to go to all the high end Chica places everybody mentions, but honestly, I don't think the experiences would be any better. Yes the women will be better dressed, etc. But once their clothes are off, what's the difference?

So what I was suggesting for others that can afford it, and who like staying in nice digs, yet like the SW's, it's an option to have two places at an added cost of no more than $ 20 USD a day, chump change for many. I had the best of both worlds while I was in Santa Marta, luxury digs with an ocean-view, and a separate place for the SW's. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy company in nice digs as well, but that is only with a select few I have in my stable.

Your question makes total sense, why would a low level predator as an another poster has described guys who like the El Centro SW's have two places to stay if he is banging low end SW's. It all boils down to how they roll, their finances, and I guess at least here in Colombia, I am kind of like a "slum dog millionaire".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2407910]I generally agree with your posts, however, this is actually funny to me.

Yell and scream at a girl, calling her a puta because she wants to overcharge you?

Really?

Being bigger and badder than the bouncers, really?

What does any of this really do, fix or prove?

Nothing.

How about just say no and move on.

Not getting any business will be the only thing that may change a girl.

I highly doubt screaming Puta at her will do anything.[/QUOTE]I had the same reaction. I'm bigger than just about everyone in Colombia. I also hope that I'm smart enough to realize how little that matters. One big old gringo vs 15 young Colombian bouncers isn't my idea of a good time.

Why scream and yell? Why call names? There's no upside for me. I expect any other women within range will immediately decide they don't want my money bad enough to deal with the abuse. If there happens to be a customer around who thinks he's in love with the girl, I might just end up with a knife in my back.

When a girl tosses out a crazy price, I just laugh and say "no, gracias. " They immediately understand that I know the going rate and they'll either move along looking for a sucker or come down to the right price.

It's not my responsibility to make sure nobody else is overcharged. If some girl can get 600 k or $600 from some guy, I'll tip my hat to her and congratulate her. Now if the guy asks me, I'll tell him how much he should be paying, but if he doesn't do his research, that's his problem.

There's no reason to belittle these women or treat them like trash. I doubt many of us would last a week trying to walk in their shoes.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2408006]It is my guess that the higher price is with condom. I did not order or see the condom myself. I am only guessing the girl took the condom. Valencia is not bad compare to Zona Rosa.[/QUOTE]I doubt the higher price was because it included a condom which they surely would of handed to either you or the Chica. Typically at the 5 K hotels, it includes the condom which they hand to you, so you know it's not expensive.

I suspect what happened to you is that they just charged more than the normal price. This could of been initiated in one of two ways, either the Clerk just quoted you a higher price, or the Chica said something to Clerk resulting in a higher price which she shared with the Clerk. Lots of these girls know the Clerks, so it would be very easy for them to pull this off and you would be "clueless" if your experience base for the area was limited.

I had a similar experience in Athens of all places this Summer. I pulled a SW and went to a short time Hotel and was told 10 Euros and being "clueless" just paid it. The next day I pulled another SW and went back to the same Hotel, and there was a different Clerk, and was told the price was 5 Euros.

So this is just my supposition as to what happened to you as it's happened to me. And darn, that extra 3 K you paid has got to be rough, maybe just stick with the 5 K Hotels as the condom is included and there will be no doubt your paying the going rate.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2388811]The 5 K Hotels about thirty minutes, the 10 K Hotels about an hour, and the Hotels from between 13 and 16 K are an hour and a half, and the 22 K Hotel three hours.[/QUOTE]Thank you for posting this, it was a mystery to me how the more expensive ones could cost so much as proportion of what the locals pay for a cita. But now it makes sense if it's to do with longer citas.

I think I have also seen advertised that some of them have 6 hours for the price of 3 hours at quiet times.

I would really like to know how much a 90 minute session with one of Pollo Negro's beauties cost in El Centro (as a point of comparison with FB prices).

Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408068]Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No, but I see she is one of my buddies's friends, and if they are not working girls (in the sense that we like), we will unfollow very quickly. Not fool proof, but from my look at her profile, she seems with the program.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408068]Anyone have any experience with yura estrada? She is a Facebook girl. Regular job but several gringos replying to her posts. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Some of them have jobs but do this on the side to augment their income. Pay for honest work in Colombia is pretty dismal. I heard the minimum wage went up 6% to like 860 mil a month, but I am not sure how well it is enforced because I have heard Chicas tell me they get like 400 mil a month. Not saying I believe everything I hear, but it's hard and normal jobs don't pay that well.

How reliable is photoprepagos? It seems to receive good press on these boards, I think. But my experience with Milerticos and similar sites in Mexico were less than reliable. Maybe it was a 20% success rate. Beyond the scams, bait and switch was an issue. Hoping that photoprepagos is reliable; I'm wanting to involve online opportunities to my plan but I just don't trust FB at all. (The application, not the chicas.).

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408090]How reliable is photoprepagos? It seems to receive good press on these boards, I think. But my experience with Milerticos and similar sites in Mexico were less than reliable. Maybe it was a 20% success rate. Beyond the scams, bait and switch was an issue. Hoping that photoprepagos is reliable; I'm wanting to involve online opportunities to my plan but I just don't trust FB at all. (The application, not the chicas.).[/QUOTE]What don't you trust? I've used it for 4 girls and 2 were great times, 1 was not worth it and 1 was awful. They all showed up, the ok one left well before time and didn't look nearly as good as her pictures and the awful one looked fine but the services were so mechanical and the things we agreed to she would do for 15 seconds and then say she couldn't. I literally paid her to leave without fucking.

Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408095]Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.[/QUOTE]I am sorry to inform you of this, but if your on this website, your in the "Pay Pool". Your best luck at getting free pussy is to search for women close to your age because all of the darlings on Tinder who respond to guys twice their age are given it up for free.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408095]Look I know someones going to say it doesn't matter but in the off chance I can get free pussy, those of you who have had luck on tinder. What do you put in your bio? Feel free to message.[/QUOTE]I don't put anything in a bio. And if a girl from a dating site says did you read my profile? I say no. Nobody reads profiles. A person can write anything. You see a person you are attracted to, then you try to get to know the person. You can fall in love with someone without a profile and you can end up hating someone whose profile you loved. As you said, it doesn't matter. Nobody is skimming through bios of people they are not initially attracted to anyway.

Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2408062]Thank you for posting this, it was a mystery to me how the more expensive ones could cost so much as proportion of what the locals pay for a cita. But now it makes sense if it's to do with longer citas.

I think I have also seen advertised that some of them have 6 hours for the price of 3 hours at quiet times.

I would really like to know how much a 90 minute session with one of Pollo Negro's beauties cost in El Centro (as a point of comparison with FB prices).[/QUOTE]Are not expensive but not cheap, unless you session with them on the spot, but PM me and I'll give you more info on the girls I know from centro, Pollo Negro is out!

Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.

And, yes, I have known girls who have full-time jobs and work on occasion on the side. In fact, some of my go-to girls are girls who work a full-time job and see me (and maybe other guys) on the side, but who are not flaunting it on Facebook. For example, I have a squirter who works at a bank. And she has a boyfriend. Love her to death.

I am hoping that someone can confirm that Yura is a working girl, even if only on the side. Just want to confirm my suspicions before I think about acting. Thanks.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2408077]Some of them have jobs but do this on the side to augment their income. Pay for honest work in Colombia is pretty dismal. I heard the minimum wage went up 6% to like 860 mil a month, but I am not sure how well it is enforced because I have heard Chicas tell me they get like 400 mil a month. Not saying I believe everything I hear, but it's hard and normal jobs don't pay that well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408191]Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.[/QUOTE]I have never once met a Colombian chick that said she could not find a job. All the regular chicks that I have ever met have had jobs, and if not, then they are students. Hell, I know Venezuelans that live in Colombia and have normal jobs.

Hi ColombiaLover. I have never sessioned or met her but why not message her that you are interested in seeing her? If she responds back with a yes then the answer is obvious she is a working girl. Why else would she accept meeting a gringo stranger?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408191]Thanks. I am aware of this. I've been going to Colombia for more than 14 years and had a Colombian ex-wife. The pay there is dismal. And that's if you can get a job at all.

And, yes, I have known girls who have full-time jobs and work on occasion on the side. In fact, some of my go-to girls are girls who work a full-time job and see me (and maybe other guys) on the side, but who are not flaunting it on Facebook. For example, I have a squirter who works at a bank. And she has a boyfriend. Love her to death.

I am hoping that someone can confirm that Yura is a working girl, even if only on the side. Just want to confirm my suspicions before I think about acting. Thanks.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2408204]I have never once met a Colombian chick that said she could not find a job. All the regular chicks that I have ever met have had jobs, and if not, then they are students. Hell, I know Venezuelans that live in Colombia and have normal jobs.[/QUOTE]Hello Mr. E and Fellow Mongers,

I have never met anyone in my life that could not get a job, regardless of country, if they really wanted one. It might not be doing what they want but it is money. I think a lot of prostitutes are just plain too lazy to find a job outside of selling their bodies. The smarter ones have jobs and hook on the side. Of course if they have kids that may limits their opportunity a bit but where there is a will there is a way. Cheers, amigo. Maybe our paths will cross again.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]You may need a little more self esteem there buddy! I got laid 8 times in 6 days (most here would consider that a slow) on my first trip. And guess what? I didn't even have a FB account with Paisa set up yet!

Now the elusive GFE? FB is not the only tool to find this.

Not going to Medellin due to no FB account is just crazy. Read the boards brother. A wealth of info and suggestions live here.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]1. What led you to believe you could go to a place you've never been before and get a true GFE with someone you've spent 20 minutes chatting with?

2. What is a true GFE? I've had a lot of true GFs, and some who weren't quite as true as I wanted. I've had lots of experiences with the different GFs, but they've all been different. Different people, different personalities, different experiences.

3. Why would you spend $1000 to spend more money for a 1 night experience? All over the US there are girls who will give you GFE for less than $1000.

4. Why throw away the $1000, or fly to Medellin just to masturbate? There are still several thousand options available for you in Medellin. It might not be "true GFE", but since nobody really knows what "true GFE" is, it won't matter much.

5. What's to stop you from creating another Facebook account? Create a new Gmail account. Create a new Facebook account. Like a few pages that you're interested in. Add a few photos and posts. Add a few friends. Don't try to add 500 girls in one day. Browse a few Facebook ads. In other words, treat it like a normal account. Look for nightclubs, restaurants and hotels in Medellin that have Facebook pages. Follow those pages. Take it slowly and you should be fine.

6. Why would anyone spend $500 a night in Medellin (unless you want to spend $500 night)? There are 100,000 women in Medellin who will spend a week with you for $500. Granted, it takes some Spanish and a willingness to chat up strangers. However, Medellin is one of the best places in the world to chat up random, young, attractive women. They'll actually talk with you and be pleasant if you treat them right. Or you can go to the bar at the Mansion, pay your 50 k cover charge, spend some time picking out a girl and pay her 300-500 k to spend the night with you. With taxis and drinks you'll spend less than $200 and your chance of getting GFE is the same as on Facebook.

7. An all night date with an unknown girl is rarely a good idea. The chance of it matching your "true GFE" expectations is slim to none. Give someone a test run first.

8. Facebook isn't the only option. Some will say it's not the best option. Some will say it's not even a good option. I do know gringos were getting laid in Medellin long before Facebook began, and gringos who have never used Facebook are still getting laid in Medellin. If you can't find an enjoyable experience in Medellin, you might as well get your nuts cut off and join a monastery.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]Any idea why your FB went bye-bye? I've had a few of my regulars disappear too and now it's impossible to contact them. I always try to get Whatsapp numbers whenever I can but that's also not reliable as these girls seem to lose their phones as easily as their virginity.

You can still use Tinder, strip clubs, casas, escort websites, or prowling for streetwalkers like some of the guys here.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408090]How reliable is photoprepagos? It seems to receive good press on these boards, I think. But my experience with Milerticos and similar sites in Mexico were less than reliable. Maybe it was a 20% success rate. Beyond the scams, bait and switch was an issue. Hoping that photoprepagos is reliable; I'm wanting to involve online opportunities to my plan but I just don't trust FB at all. (The application, not the chicas.).[/QUOTE]I used it yesterday. Girl asked 200 k and I offered 150 k with no taxi. Tons of photo shop, specifically the tattoos, however I don't mind as I have several Myself. A little chubbier than I would like. Still attractive and sweet personality. I speak some Spanish, I lived in another Colombian city for three years, so we had a beer and small talk prior.

GFE sex with lots of kissing. It's what I need when I do the deed, I'm in my mid 40's so I don't get erections when the wind blows anymore. I've been to Aisha spa and the Secret Spa the last 2 days and the sex was too mechanical for me. Wasn't able to finish at Aisha.

Obviously my data sample is small from photo prepagos. But having a pretty girl show up at my door, fuck me like we've been dating, was worth every penny of the $45 USD I paid.

Think I will check out centro today to see what all the talk is about.

Any guys out there interested in a beer / drink I will buy. PM me.

Logan.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408191]
And, yes, I have known girls who have full-time jobs and work on occasion on the side. In fact, some of my go-to girls are girls who work a full-time job and see me (and maybe other guys) on the side, but who are not flaunting it on Facebook. For example, I have a squirter who works at a bank. And she has a boyfriend. Love her to death.
[/QUOTE]These girls really run the gamut when it comes to fiscal responsibility. Some of the girls I've slept with spend all the money I give them on luxuries and their social media is just a constant churn of new photos of them doing drugs, partying with friends, or showing off new clothes. They have no other jobs besides mongering and they never save for a rainy day.

Then there are those like Yessy, who when I met her was a 20-year-old university student who was struggling to raise two daughters from two different deadbeat dads. She shared a single bed with her cousin and daughters in a flat with her grandma, who watched her kids while she went to school. Her only source of income was crafting beaded earrings for which she was paid 1500 pesos each. She could only make around 10 of them per day. I also learned after several sessions that her wisdom tooth has been causing her pain for years but she had never been able to afford to go to the dentist. Thanks to the money I gave her she graduated, got a full-time job as a barrista, moved into a larger flat, and last I saw was wearing new braces and was no longer in pain. Sadly her FB blipped out of existence in September so I don't know how she's doing recently.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]Yeap, you're right. You probably shouldn't even go. Every girl that wants to give GFE is on Facebook. There are no other sources named in the pages and pages and pages of intel on this forum.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you been crying after FB bumped you! I guess now one or both of your hands are going to be very busy in Medellin. Was your trip insured, maybe you get a refund. But if you read the Forum, you might get lucky.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2408279]Yeap, you're right. You probably shouldn't even go. Every girl that wants to give GFE is on Facebook. There are no other sources named in the pages and pages and pages of intel on this forum.[/QUOTE]You guys. Tough love LOL.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]Wow, I hope you're not being serious.

Can't you create a new Facebook account or meet girls in Parque Lleras, the SW's, the casas, on tinder, escorts online, strip clubs, go to the mansion etc.

There's loads of options, a lot of people would love a chance to go to Medellin but can't afford it, you should be grateful you have the opportunity.

I guess we run in different circles. I've met plenty who have trouble, including former in-laws in Bogota. The solution for them (in Bogota) was to work for themselves. These barrio girls often are not that astute.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2408204]I have never once met a Colombian chick that said she could not find a job. All the regular chicks that I have ever met have had jobs, and if not, then they are students. Hell, I know Venezuelans that live in Colombia and have normal jobs.[/QUOTE]

It is especially difficult when Colombian citizens get older to find jobs. I had a regular girl friend from Barranquilla that supported her parents as they were completely dependent on her

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408325]I guess we run in different circles. I've met plenty who have trouble, including former in-laws in Bogota. The solution for them (in Bogota) was to work for themselves. These barrio girls often are not that astute.[/QUOTE].

1. Cascade your fb Chicas in the right order from the morning to night, and they all magically showed up on time.

2. book a place that is surrounded by cool street bars that plays amazing music.

3. A melancholic rain.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]Why would you need FaceBook for that? Most GFE I had was a Centro street chick who was super cool and fun and hung out in my room all day in bed for 80 k, my 2nd night in town I met a super fun chick at the strip club Conejitas, paid the Club so she could leave with me and she stayed with me for 2 days.

(the stuffed bear was awkward, the Conejitas girl gave it to me and the street chick saw it the next day and squealed "How sweet, you bought me a present!" LOL).

Very true. The vast majority of the chicas I know here have mothers who are younger than I, but do not work. So it's up to the kids who are old enough to try to work doing something to support the family. Because often there is no father.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2408326]It is especially difficult when Colombian citizens get older to find jobs. I had a regular girl friend from Barranquilla that supported her parents as they were completely dependent on her

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408353]Very true. The vast majority of the chicas I know here have mothers who are younger than I, but do not work. So it's up to the kids who are old enough to try to work doing something to support the family. Because often there is no father.[/QUOTE]Maybe that is the difference. Most of the non-pros that I know have their father in their lives.

Thanks to all of you that have given information about centro. The girls were literally where many of you have stated. Took a girl selling candy by the church for 30 k. It was. OK. I blame myself for not screening more.

A gal from tinder just left. 150 k and I offered 20 k for taxi cause the sexo was great and I enjoyed the conversation.

I don't use FAY BOO but I use Tinder back home so it was an easy transition to start using it here a few days before my trip.

I will not be deterred by my "OK" experience in Centro. Sure I will go back tomorrow and hunt for one of the gems I keep reading about. I like the place. The fun is the hunt.

BTW. As soon as the inDiver dropped me off two guys were shooting up simultaneously on the sidewalk. You can't make this stuff up. You fellow mongers weren't exaggerating LMAO.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]If you have a membership on the forum we can communicate about getting you back on your feet. I am pretty sure that its possible to do, but I am do not want to waste forum space covering topics that have been beat to death about FB accounts and am not going to post other info to the public posts, if you get a membership to this forum for 25 bucks and PM me I will help you out.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]The very most you would pay would be $200 for all night (crazy to me anyway) for a Gusto chica that would be super hot and pretend to love you all night. But as I stated in the last post, get a forum membership for $25 and I will help you out, and a first off too late for you but may help others piece of advice that I am sure most already follow. When you first make friends with a chica on FB, get their number so you have them in whatsapp. I got paranoid that FB was going to shut down my account once because the put restrictions on me because I was clicking on profiles at a gatling gun rate, so I sent out mass messages to chicas asking for their number because I was afraid my profile was going to get shut down.

Hi,

What do you guys think of this place for a love motel while I'm in Medellin? First time visitor and first time posted to ISG. It's cheap and the host is OK with guests. It's 5 floors up so not sure how the chicas would fare with that.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/20763035?source_impression_id=p3_1577893056_RLxlxQGF5KN8woiu[/URL]

New Year's Eve was very slow. Many of the clubs were closed in Parque Lleras and those open were desolate. Gusto had 5 chicas until 2 AM and all 5 of those chicas came with hombres. A handful more showed up after but nothing special. Very slow night.

[QUOTE=Stmp24;2408598]New Year's Eve was very slow. Many of the clubs were closed in Parque Lleras and those open were desolate. Gusto had 5 chicas until 2 AM and all 5 of those chicas came with hombres. A handful more showed up after but nothing special. Very slow night.[/QUOTE]Lleras during NYE is indeed terrible for mongering. The mansion's bar was not open, gusto is empty, there are very few street girls. But people did come out to party, the streets are filled with champagne drinking people celebrating the new year.

[QUOTE=Logan19;2408393]Thanks to all of you that have given information about centro. The girls were literally where many of you have stated. Took a girl selling candy by the church for 30 k. It was. OK. I blame myself for not screening more.

A gal from tinder just left. 150 k and I offered 20 k for taxi cause the sexo was great and I enjoyed the conversation.

I don't use FAY BOO but I use Tinder back home so it was an easy transition to start using it here a few days before my trip.

I will not be deterred by my "OK" experience in Centro. Sure I will go back tomorrow and hunt for one of the gems I keep reading about. I like the place. The fun is the hunt.

BTW. As soon as the inDiver dropped me off two guys were shooting up simultaneously on the sidewalk. You can't make this stuff up. You fellow mongers weren't exaggerating LMAO.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your sharing your experiences in Centro. Please keep sending updates! I'm not going back until September, but my Medellin "notebook" is expanding each day. This board is where it's at! As soon as I get around to getting a bitcoin wallet, I will be buying the membership for PM etc. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Stmp24;2408598]New Year's Eve was very slow. Many of the clubs were closed in Parque Lleras and those open were desolate. Gusto had 5 chicas until 2 AM and all 5 of those chicas came with hombres. A handful more showed up after but nothing special. Very slow night.[/QUOTE]Completely normal and predictable. It is a night spent with family always.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2408144]Now that my Facebook account got deleted. I will never get a true GFE there now. I'm spending $1,000 on a flight + hotel to what amounts to a vacation with my hand. Why even go now? I just wanted a GFE for the night, but without Facebook I'll be spending at least $500/ night for that. Might as well not go.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why I'm interested in your problem. But, if you pm To me maybe I can help you. Depends when you're visiting.

I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.

Second, for good reason (primarily my day job), using an ATM in Colombia is not an option. So I will be carrying a large amount of cash into Colombia. Certainly, nothing near an amount I would need to declare. And honestly, I've walked through some of the worst areas of Tijuana with amounts like this. Any reason I should be more concerned in Medellin?

Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.

Had a girl over from Tinder. Looks wise she was a 8/9, for me. Pretty face, tight gymnast type body, perfect rear end and standard bolt ONS. A shame she wants to ruin her cola by making it bigger. Great conversation, very sweet, and sex was great. I have no doubt some of you know her. She was telling me about her, a wife and five dudes while the husband watched. Great story LOL. You can't make this stuff up. 200 k and worth every centavo for me.

BTW. All of my domicilios have been on time or early, knock on wood, I've been lucky so far.

[QUOTE=Stmp24;2408598]New Year's Eve was very slow. Many of the clubs were closed in Parque Lleras and those open were desolate. Gusto had 5 chicas until 2 AM and all 5 of those chicas came with hombres. A handful more showed up after but nothing special. Very slow night.[/QUOTE]Lleras was terrible for mongering last night. Gusto is empty, there is hardly any street walkers and The mansion's bar is closed. There was a lot of people in Lleras celebrating the new year which is pretty cool.

Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.

How's it going guys.

Will be in mde next week, first time there tho been to Brazil a dozen or so times.

Used the search function but no exact answer came up, how frequent are taxis in el centro at night?

After hitting the casas and eating in centro, I'll be hitting conejitas and barra ejecutiva at dark for a few rounds.

Problem is I don't want to carry a phone with me, (I write casa addresses on paper) so I won't have access to cabify or uber.

Do the strip clubs have taxis waiting on the street most of the night?

Or worst case I can walk over to hotel nutibara and hail a cab back to my place in Laureles from there.

(Thanks a million to Worldtraveler for your mde map and everyone here for your invaluable reporte).

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]Only way to find out is for those who have not been to Medellin to find out for yourselves hmhm. Good luck to all.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408640]I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.

Second, for good reason (primarily my day job), using an ATM in Colombia is not an option. So I will be carrying a large amount of cash into Colombia. Certainly, nothing near an amount I would need to declare. And honestly, I've walked through some of the worst areas of Tijuana with amounts like this. Any reason I should be more concerned in Medellin?

Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Best bet for chica friendly places is Airbnb. Look for guest friendly or check before booking. There is info on the board.

I have carried up to 5 K USD worth of Colombian pesos into the country. I have not had any issues. Obviously, don't keep it all in one place, if your room has a locker, put it there. Hide it in different places. Only take what you might need and just a bit more when going out, so you will limit your losses in case of theft it robbery.

US customs, depends on which port of entry. Only Miami, I was asked some questions, like reason for travel, how much money I am bringing in, any agricultural products etc. I tell them, I went on vacation, I go there to do some hiking, nature, enjoy the weather etc. Beyond that, no big deal.

That may be it. Most of the non-pros I know also have both parents.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2408367]Maybe that is the difference. Most of the non-pros that I know have their father in their lives.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Guys should go elsewhere. It is so expensive with such a shitty exchance rate. It is super dangerous. Even to leave the airport. The Colombians are so rude to gringos and will rip you off every time. The chicas are fat, ugly, and entitled. This is hell. I am doing my penance by being here. Bless me Father for I have sinned.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2408762]I agree. Guys should go elsewhere. It is so expensive with such a shitty exchance rate. It is super dangerous. Even to leave the airport. The Colombians are so rude to gringos and will rip you off every time. The chicas are fat, ugly, and entitled. This is hell. I am doing my penance by being here. Bless me Father for I have sinned.[/QUOTE]Nothing worse than a beautiful Paisa smothering my face with that beautiful ass. Hours on end.

ColombiaLover. I need some of that blessing too.

Trying to send you a PM bro.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, I did not like MDE at all. I would add in a few other things:

1. Food / Service was terrible.

2. Rained everyday I was there.

3. Way too much Fake / Big Asses for me. No issue with fake tits.

4. Girls are extremely Jealous / Insecure.

If I was going to go back to Colombia, I would only go to Bogota, but there are much better destinations. However much better then Kiev / Rio. If you love Big Asses, then you might like MDE, but definitely not for me.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408640]I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.

Second, for good reason (primarily my day job), using an ATM in Colombia is not an option. So I will be carrying a large amount of cash into Colombia. Certainly, nothing near an amount I would need to declare. And honestly, I've walked through some of the worst areas of Tijuana with amounts like this. Any reason I should be more concerned in Medellin?

Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Years ago, I read a quote that went something like "It is not the things we did in life that we regret on our deathbed, it is the things we could have done and didn't do".

As to your three issues: There are plenty of places you can stay that are chica friendly. You need to decide the area and the type of accommodation. I suggest some place close to Parque Lleras or in Laureles.

Second, my recommendation is to find an apartment building that has 24-hour security and a safe in the apartment. During more than 30 trips to Medellin, I haven't had any problems.

Third, a lot depends on where you enter the US. I have Global Entry. The agents tell me "welcome home" and don't ask any questions. I am single and always travel alone. "Vacation" is a perfectly legitimate reason to go to Medellin. Don't be evasive or untruthful with an agent.

[QUOTE=Stmp24;2408598]New Year's Eve was very slow. Many of the clubs were closed in Parque Lleras and those open were desolate. Gusto had 5 chicas until 2 AM and all 5 of those chicas came with hombres. A handful more showed up after but nothing special. Very slow night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2408697]Lleras was terrible for mongering last night. Gusto is empty, there is hardly any street walkers and The mansion's bar is closed. There was a lot of people in Lleras celebrating the new year which is pretty cool.[/QUOTE]Do you guys think this shows a difference in our culture? One member posted that the Colombians would spend the night with family. This would be true for Christmas in the USA but New Years Eve? If Parque Lleras was in the USA all those places would have been packed and charging $100 at the door in exchange for a small $6 bottle of champagne and $. 50 party favor.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2408776]Do you guys think this shows a difference in our culture? One member posted that the Colombians would spend the night with family. This would be true for Christmas in the USA but New Years Eve? If Parque Lleras was in the USA all those places would have been packed and charging $100 at the door in exchange for a small $6 bottle of champagne and $. 50 party favor.[/QUOTE]I do, I asked one of my favorite girls what her plans were and she said she was back in Venezulea spending it with her family, which I later saw on her her instagram story. Although January is now here and there is money that must be made.

I am no expert in Colombian culture but a chica told me that most Colombians spend time with the fam on NYE, then try to go party after 2 AM, so LLeras should have been empty until after 2 AM. I haven't been to MDE in 8 years before this trip and it has changed. Most chicas are asking for200 K, not 150-160 K I was getting quoted back then, inflation and other mongers paying the requested prices I guess. There are plenty of chica friendly places, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, very good security and chica friendly. The guards would collect ID and take a picture, that lessens the chance of anything BS a chica might try. If I went to the market, I would give the guards a beer, water, to keep good relations. ALways treat these guys well, it can pay some dividends should you ever run into issues.

I only visited Lutron this trip there were only about 6 chicas working but very nice line for 300 K a pop. I had some very good luck with tinder this trip, met 4 and 3 of them were very good. The last one was a 6'1 amazon from Venezuela who was hanging at Parque LLeras when I whatsapped her, she came a 4 am.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2408790]I am no expert in Colombian culture but a chica told me that most Colombians spend time with the fam on NYE, then try to go party after 2 AM, so LLeras should have been empty until after 2 AM. I haven't been to MDE in 8 years before this trip and it has changed. Most chicas are asking for200 K, not 150-160 K I was getting quoted back then, inflation and other mongers paying the requested prices I guess. There are plenty of chica friendly places, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, very good security and chica friendly. The guards would collect ID and take a picture, that lessens the chance of anything BS a chica might try. If I went to the market, I would give the guards a beer, water, to keep good relations. ALways treat these guys well, it can pay some dividends should you ever run into issues.

I only visited Lutron this trip there were only about 6 chicas working but very nice line for 300 K a pop. I had some very good luck with tinder this trip, met 4 and 3 of them were very good. The last one was a 6'1 amazon from Venezuela who was hanging at Parque LLeras when I whatsapped her, she came a 4 am.[/QUOTE]8 years ago, exchange rate was around $50 for 100 k COP. Now it's about $30 for 100 k. 200 k today costs you $60.160 k 8 years ago cost you $80.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408640]I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.

Second, for good reason (primarily my day job), using an ATM in Colombia is not an option. So I will be carrying a large amount of cash into Colombia. Certainly, nothing near an amount I would need to declare. And honestly, I've walked through some of the worst areas of Tijuana with amounts like this. Any reason I should be more concerned in Medellin?

Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately your going to get hosed exchanging USD to Pesos in Colombia. Perhaps you can get a pre-loaded ATM card that you can pull cash out with versus a debit card. I don't know if such a card exits, but if so worth checking out because you will take about a 10% hit changing USD to Pesos.

Don't fret about US Customs officials when returning to the US. There just doing their job asking questions at times, etc. And if they ask you what you where doing in Colombia, just tell them you went sightseeing, and on vacation. You don't need an excuse for visiting Colombia. Unless you have porn or other nefarious items on you, you should be fine. And just as a side note, there are plenty of single male law enforcement personnel who partake in our activities, so they are not clueless, and could care less about what we do abroad, as long as we haven't broken any laws.

If your a Tijuana veteran than you will do fine in Medellin, your concern will not be the Police hassling you, but more so of getting robbed. Keep your guard up at all times and you will have a good time.

[QUOTE=Logan19;2408393]Thanks to all of you that have given information about centro. The girls were literally where many of you have stated. Took a girl selling candy by the church for 30 k. It was. OK. I blame myself for not screening more.

A gal from tinder just left. 150 k and I offered 20 k for taxi cause the sexo was great and I enjoyed the conversation.

I don't use FAY BOO but I use Tinder back home so it was an easy transition to start using it here a few days before my trip.

I will not be deterred by my "OK" experience in Centro. Sure I will go back tomorrow and hunt for one of the gems I keep reading about. I like the place. The fun is the hunt.

BTW. As soon as the inDiver dropped me off two guys were shooting up simultaneously on the sidewalk. You can't make this stuff up. You fellow mongers weren't exaggerating LMAO.[/QUOTE]You have the right attitude about El Centro. It's a place that takes time to work. And as far as "screening" the girls there, there's only so much you can determine while interviewing them beforehand. In my experience, if they immediately push to go to the room within a few minutes I blow them off. It can be very hit or miss, so don't fret about your screening process.

As far as the candy girls, I had a great experience with the last one I went with about a month ago. I was in El Centro and I saw this Chica walking around with candy approaching people asking for coins, etc. She was dressed in a jogging outfit and thin which I like. I took a 50 Peso coin out and motioned her over to closely check out the merchandise. She was kind of exotic looking, turns out she was from the Coast, darker skin and almost looked kind of Asian and a Colombian. So after about ten minutes of talking I finally sealed the deal, 20 K with no discussion of what would transpire in the room. Nice body, twenty two years old, and into it. I told her when we got to the room that if she did a good job there would be a tip and she delivered. Typically with a lot of the El Centro SW's, they don't have phones, or constantly loose them, and I haven't seen her since.

The fun like you said is in the hunt.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]I agree with you in regards to two of your "issues", specifically the language and safety concerns you have raised as I know of others who have exactly the same concerns.

However for some it is a paradise here, speaking Spanish is a "must" to fully enjoy this place, and safety is an issue here for sure.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]Really bro? Let's see how do I even start. I too didn't speak much Spanish, but when your survival depends on it, you can't figure it out? I just some kids just die when you throw their ass into the deep end of the pool. I digress.

Okay, granted to takes most people 600-900 USD to get there and have lodging booked (on the modest end), so yes, it is an initial investment but ffs, where in the continental USA or Europe can you find airbnb / hotels for 20-30 USD a night of modest to luxury amenities? So, first point you got is already invalid.

Price of Hotel: Aside from the aforementioned stupid low rates for accommodation, you ever consider walking into a love motel to inquire a price? Most spots up and down La70 range from 70 - 100 Mil per day, that is 25-30 USD, link me one in the developed world that will charge this number for just an hour. Invalid Complain.

Price of Travel: Taxi from Itagui to Prado is like 12 USD with uber even cheaper.

Rude Colombians / Language Issues: I can just imagine you getting frustrated with your half ass Spanglish getting mad with the people around you because you have no idea what they are saying. Did you come up to you and call you names? Did they not pull over for you when you hailed a cab? Colombians are some of the friendliest people in Latin America. I'm a China-man walking around in Medellin, learned some lingo for the hoes and literally never had a stare that amounted into anything negative. But then again, I would think everyone was rude if I didn't speak the language. This is more a failure in preparation on your part compared to what the Colombians you met seem to think about your gringo-ass. Remember, you are in their land trying to bang their hoes, the least you can do is learn enough Spanish to get through that.

Safety Concern: Guess what? If you don't know how to behave in Medellin, there are far scarier places you need to stay dafuq out of. Yes, if someone runs up on you with a gun, you give it up. Otherwise, a bit of street smart goes a long way. If you feel the need to walk home drunk at night, you are a sitting duck just about anywhere. And like everywhere else, if you don't go looking for drugs, drugs usually won't find you. Unless you want to stick your head into some gang related shit, you most likely not going to get shot at aside from the aforementioned muggings. It is an entirely acceptably safe city, papayas are taken basically everywhere in the world, Colombians just decided to put it in a phrase. Unless you flew a 1000 miles to stay in the barrios for authenticity, you are most likely in a good neighborhood.

Getting Sick: I ate 13 culo's alongside some street vendors and restaurants and I ain't get any type of sick. IDK, I think the consecutive nights of MickeyD's might of done you in. Stick to eating it like groceries next time.

Just don't go anymore, this place is obviously not for you.

[QUOTE=Augustwest530;2408592]Hi,

What do you guys think of this place for a love motel while I'm in Medellin? First time visitor and first time posted to ISG. It's cheap and the host is OK with guests. It's 5 floors up so not sure how the chicas would fare with that.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/20763035?source_impression_id=p3_1577893056_RLxlxQGF5KN8woiu[/URL][/QUOTE]If you willing to pay 18-25 a night, you can get something without 5 flights of stairs and in a slightly nicer part of town. It fathoms me how guys would pay the flight to get here and be willing to sleep in a shoebox even if all you want is pussy.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2408776]Do you guys think this shows a difference in our culture? One member posted that the Colombians would spend the night with family. This would be true for Christmas in the USA but New Years Eve? If Parque Lleras was in the USA all those places would have been packed and charging $100 at the door in exchange for a small $6 bottle of champagne and $. 50 party favor.[/QUOTE]I think this definitely reflects on their culture. I was in lleras and the mansion on 12/30, 12/31, and 1/1. It is completely dead, there were 4-8 girls in gusto for the entire night (none of them are doable). I have a list of go-to girls, almost all of them want to spend the days around the new year with family. In these three days, during the day time I can line up three or four Facebook girls from 10 am until 7 pm, then almost no one is available between 7-12 am. There were a lot of people in lleras celebrating the new year, but no working girls. I guess for them, it is just a job, they need time off during holidays just like any other job.

We already have a lleras-like place in the U. S, it is called Vegas. You can find similar type of fun there at 800 dollars an hour.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2408876]Unfortunately your going to get hosed exchanging USD to Pesos in Colombia. Perhaps you can get a pre-loaded ATM card that you can pull cash out with versus a debit card. I don't know if such a card exits, but if so worth checking out because you will take about a 10% hit changing USD to Pesos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for alerting me to that. I think I'll probably exchange into pesos here in the US with my bank. I've done it with Mexican pesos, where they even ship it to my home. The rates were true and it had a very small fee. It worked out better than the casas de cambio on either side of the border.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2408925]Rude Colombians / Language Issues: I can just imagine you getting frustrated with your half ass Spanglish getting mad with the people around you because you have no idea what they are saying. Did you come up to you and call you names? Did they not pull over for you when you hailed a cab? Colombians are some of the friendliest people in Latin America.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. I speak zero Spanish and I used google translate everywhere. I find people here are extremely helpful and welcoming, almost all of them are honest.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2408925] Safety Concern: Guess what? If you don't know how to behave in Medellin, there are far scarier places you need to stay dafuq out of..[/QUOTE]Relatively speaking Medellin is safe. It is no Japan or western Europe, but the reward you get far outweighed the risk. In no where on earth (south east Asia excluded) you can find this many hot young girls who offers GFE+ service at 60-80 dollars for 1-3 hours. As long as you don't do anything that is obviously stupid, like waving a wad of cash around in the seedy part of the city, you are safe in general.

I'm in love with Medellin, but I still maintain that Brazil is better.

I always stay at the same hotel in MDE, but I checked out San Peter last trip with a friend. I liked it. I see it can be booked at hotels dot com. But I also read that they're on AirBnB, but somebody wrote that with the fees it comes out to a much higher price per day.

What's the best way to book it?

I know they are chica-friendly, can you bring 2 or 3 at the same time?

Do you need to meet them in the lobby or do they check-in at reception and come up?

Does reception call you when the chicas leave?

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2408925]Getting Sick: I ate 13 culo's alongside some street vendors and restaurants and I ain't get any type of sick. IDK, I think the consecutive nights of MickeyD's might of done you in. Stick to eating it like groceries next time.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding, maybe a typo error. So instead of eating pussy, you were licking and sucking the culos of 13 Chicas.

Say it ain't true, but if it's so, than you really know how to roll, or I should say, really "rim it" as a rear Admiral.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408640]I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.

Second, for good reason (primarily my day job), using an ATM in Colombia is not an option. So I will be carrying a large amount of cash into Colombia. Certainly, nothing near an amount I would need to declare. And honestly, I've walked through some of the worst areas of Tijuana with amounts like this. Any reason I should be more concerned in Medellin?

Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Try this. Inside lleras, Central AC, HotTub, Chica Friendly, - [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/40428859?preview_for_ml=true[/URL].

Hello,

What's the standard price for milerotics? I see a lot of ads that say 60 k but then there's also girls that are charging 150-200 k. Can I negotiate with them or will they likely be bad if they are asking for that much?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]1. Please detail your experience with so called "rude Colombians" because I didn't experience this at all and I stayed mostly in El Centro, everybody was friendly and the customer service was good everywhere I went.

2. If it's not worth the price of the hotels, travel etc then please tell us the cheaper options with the same level of women & service because I can't think of any.

The rest of your complaints seem valid but I would love to see a response to my 2 questions.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2408934]If you willing to pay 18-25 a night, you can get something without 5 flights of stairs and in a slightly nicer part of town. It fathoms me how guys would pay the flight to get here and be willing to sleep in a shoebox even if all you want is pussy.[/QUOTE]My case is that I stay in 5 star hotels for work all the time so it is no big deal to me. I was a boy scout and in the military, so a shoebox does not bother me. When I am traveling with a non-pro then I will go for something better and at times pull out all stops, but when it is just me I don't care as much. Definitely not trying to impress hookers if I will be bringing any of them in.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2409015]My case is that I stay in 5 star hotels for work all the time so it is no big deal to me. I was a boy scout and in the military, so a shoebox does not bother me. When I am traveling with a non-pro then I will go for something better and at times pull out all stops, but when it is just me I don't care as much. Definitely not trying to impress hookers if I will be bringing any of them in.[/QUOTE]There is a lot of in-between space if you compare 5 star hotel to a shoebox. OP wanted to bring hoes up 5 flights of stairs, I guarantee that it won't play out well.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2408704]Medellin is fun for a few days, but not worth the price of hotels, travel, rude Colombians, language issues, safety concerns, etc. Also came down sick after just a few days of mongering. It's not a secret paradise as some have made it out to be. Or is it? Only one way to find for those who have not been hmhm. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]It's definitely not a secret. Paradise? Doesn't match any description for paradise I've seen. However, paradise is the place old farts go to play shuffleboard, compare illnesses and whine about the things they didn't experience.

Price of hotels? If I search, I can find a $60 motel room in Indianapolis. It's going to be 2 stars, with next to no amenities. For about the same price I can get a 4 or 5 star hotel in Poblado with breakfast included. That's without searching for any special deals or discounts. If I am fine with the 2 star hotel, I'm paying $18-$30 and I can probably still get a free breakfast.

Can't help you on travel, because I don't know where you're traveling from. For me, $500-$750 gets me round trip airfare with only 1 stop. Not worth it for a 3 day trip, but for 10 days it's a bargain.

That figures out to about $125 per day for air + hotel. An escort comparable to the girls I see in Colombia charges $300+ per hour. In Colombia I'll pay her $50-$70. Eating 10 days in restaurants in the US $400-$500 if you stick with the reasonable places. Eating 10 days in Colombia $150-$200 at reasonable places. 10 days with a girl a day in Colombia, for me $2200 or less. In the US $3400 without a motel room. $4000 and up if I need lodging.

Unless you're sleeping under a bridge in the US and fucking only junkies, I'm not sure how Colombia is too expensive.

Rude Colombians? In Medellin? The rest of Colombia makes fun of the paisas because they're so friendly. Maybe if you spend all your time in rural Alabama, waving a Confederate flag and wearing a MAGA hat you'll be surrounded by friendlier people than in Medellin. My own experience, I'll have to interact with 15-20 strangers today. 8 will be rude, 2-4 will be friendly and the rest won't even acknowledge me. If I interact with 20 strangers in Medellin, 18 will greet me and the other 2 will want to chat with me. Out of every 100, maybe 1 will be rude and that's usually limited to giving me a rude look. Even 60% of the taxi drivers will be friendly.

Can't help you with language issues, except to point out that it's not Colombia's fault. That problem is strictly your own.

Safety concerns? You are just as safe in Medellin as you are in any city in the US, except when you're trying to cross the street. Safety isn't primarily dependent on location. Safety is mostly dependent on you. If you follow the advice which has been posted many times, you can eliminate almost all your worries.

Too bad about getting sick. That's one of the risks of traveling. I spent 4 miserable days in The Dominican Republic because I encountered a strain of strep that I had no immunity against.

Not everyone will enjoy it. Not everyone will have a great time. I take responsibility for my own experiences. If I'm not having a great time, I'm probably doing it wrong.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2409006]1. Please detail your experience with so called "rude Colombians" because I didn't experience this at all and I stayed mostly in El Centro, everybody was friendly and the customer service was good everywhere I went.

2. If it's not worth the price of the hotels, travel etc then please tell us the cheaper options with the same level of women & service because I can't think of any.

The rest of your complaints seem valid but I would love to see a response to my 2 questions.[/QUOTE]I kinda thought those of you who have been to Medellin would pick up on my hint of sarcasm. Medellin is bizarro world. Only city on Earth where instagram models are begging to fuck you for 200 mil. People were beyond friendly and overall a very inexpensive vacation. I did actually catch a cold, but that could be from excessive amounts of alcohol and fast food. Only problem with Medellin is going back to the real world in the USA I never thought I would ever contemplate leaving my country, but I am definitely putting serious thought into taking a long term stay in Medellin. Haha my bad if anyone took that post serious. A very selfish part of me doesn't want every gringo from the USA Spoiling paradise for those of us who have been, but this is something every North American man should get to experience.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408640]I first need to thank everyone for the vast amount of intel on this board. It has been phenomenal to aid in my planning. I'm a veteran of Tijuana and a return there is my fallback plan if I don't pull the trigger on Colombia. I think I'm down to 3 issues to resolve in my head to feel comfortable going to Medellin. I admit to overthinking things far too often, but, that's just how I'm wired. I am interested in everyone's input.

First, finding a chica friendly place to stay. I feel comfortable I'll overcome this with a little more research as I get closer to my trip.


Third, how difficult are customs officials when returning to the US? I do frequently go to Mexico, which always adds a few questions with CBP. Going to Medellin, as a single male, feels like another flag going up. I don't bring back anything illegal. I just hate the third degree. And truth be told, I don't have a better excuse than "vacation". Any horror stories or suggestions with immigration?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I have no idea on #2. As for places to stay there are many Airbnbs but not a lot of hotels. This lady has many listings in Lleras that are chica friendly. Heck she even advertises that her place is good for when you want to bring up a girl or something like that LOL. I am just sharing the info because you don't need to spend 150 for a fuckin bnb in lleras. Unless you don't care about spending cash.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/users/show/80092219[/URL]

On #3, customs isn't difficult at all. I mean unless you're trying to hide something illegal why worry my man? When I come through customs they ask me all the time what I went down there for. I tell them for the women! They laugh and tell me to move on.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2408973]I agree 100%. I speak zero Spanish and I used google translate everywhere. I find people here are extremely helpful and welcoming, almost all of them are honest.

Relatively speaking Medellin is safe. It is no Japan or western Europe, but the reward you get far outweighed the risk. In no where on earth (south east Asia excluded) you can find this many hot young girls who offers GFE+ service at 60-80 dollars for 1-3 hours. As long as you don't do anything that is obviously stupid, like waving a wad of cash around in the seedy part of the city, you are safe in general..[/QUOTE]I agree with you that the people in Medellin are helpful and welcoming, however you would never make a statement that using Google translator works fine if you had Spanish speaking skills, you have no idea the difference it makes being able to speak the language. And your experiences, and what you pay for things would also be very different as well. In regards to safety, Medellin is not safe. Whether your in Pobaldo or El Centro, it is not safe, period. And after you become a victim, whether it be from the Chicas, or thieves on the street, you would never make a statement that Medellin is relatively safe, however I agree with you that the risk is worth the reward.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2408934]If you willing to pay 18-25 a night, you can get something without 5 flights of stairs and in a slightly nicer part of town. It fathoms me how guys would pay the flight to get here and be willing to sleep in a shoebox even if all you want is pussy.[/QUOTE]I think it's a matter of preferences and budget obviously. I need to sleep on a high quality mattress with some support and not a shoebox. I also like having nice amenities. I spend way more on the rooms there than the flight and that's how I like it. I prefer to stay at the fancier hotels because I like being able to call for whatever I need. I am not just talking about Medellin. But as we know the hotels are not mongering friendly in Medellin. So BnB's or private rentals are the way to go. I found a solid spot that I won't share LOL. It took me a lot of work and effort to find it and I don't want to ruin it. There are small number of fools on here that always ruin shit for some of us. I shared some good info on a few things privately and I learned my lesson quickly.

OK since I went to Cali (see report) in November I'm going back but going to med in January. Question I have acquired about 40 fb girls that are "dying" to meet me. Crazy how a 20 year old girl who never met me is willing to meet up with a total stranger on two text messages. They blowing up my Facebook messenger. I have about 15 that say they are interested. So do I meet them at a bar or just say come through. Think I found some guest friendly from the list the girls gave me. Chick says don Carlton is guest friendly. What's the protocol to bringing up the cash. Do I say what will it take to have you a few hours or be my excursion buddy. They seem game. What's the chance that I can smash with no money or should I assume that they all pros.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2409092]I have no idea on #2. As for places to stay there are many Airbnbs but not a lot of hotels. This lady has many listings in Lleras that are chica friendly. Heck she even advertises that her place is good for when you want to bring up a girl or something like that LOL. I am just sharing the info because you don't need to spend 150 for a fuckin bnb in lleras. Unless you don't care about spending cash.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/users/show/80092219[/URL]

On #3, customs isn't difficult at all. I mean unless you're trying to hide something illegal why worry my man? When I come through customs they ask me all the time what I went down there for. I tell them for the women! They laugh and tell me to move on.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Her listings seem to be exactly what I'm looking for. Appreciate the suggestion.

Quick question for anyone. How likely is a Lleras girl, Gusto girl, or similar setup be willing to go to Laureles? I'd be looking for more than just an hour in all likelihood.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2409000]Hello,

What's the standard price for milerotics? I see a lot of ads that say 60 k but then there's also girls that are charging 150-200 k. Can I negotiate with them or will they likely be bad if they are asking for that much?
.[/QUOTE]It is better to have the girl visit you if you rent a place that is guest friendly. If that is the case, I would ignore milerotics for the simple reason that you don't really know what you are going to get. Your own place will be far nicer than most of these places and you will be in control of the environment to have a better experience. Some of these places are like mini casa with a few girls in the apartment.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2408966]Thanks for alerting me to that. I think I'll probably exchange into pesos here in the US with my bank. I've done it with Mexican pesos, where they even ship it to my home. The rates were true and it had a very small fee. It worked out better than the casas de cambio on either side of the border.[/QUOTE]Bad idea. You will get a much better exchange rate at any cambio in Medellin than a bank here in the US. Today, I was doing some research on cambios. The exchange rate on [URL]xe.com[/URL], which is close to the official rate, was 3252/1. The cambios' rate ranged from 3140/1 to 3190/1. I doubt you will get those rates from your bank.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2409174]It is better to have the girl visit you if you rent a place that is guest friendly. If that is the case, I would ignore milerotics for the simple reason that you don't really know what you are going to get. Your own place will be far nicer than most of these places and you will be in control of the environment to have a better experience. Some of these places are like mini casa with a few girls in the apartment.[/QUOTE]Ditto that, always give them a test drive at a local love motel then decide if you want to invest more time with them and this would reduce risk of things going sideways.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2409129]OK since I went to Cali (see report) in November I'm going back but going to med in January. Question I have acquired about 40 fb girls that are "dying" to meet me. Crazy how a 20 year old girl who never met me is willing to meet up with a total stranger on two text messages. They blowing up my Facebook messenger. I have about 15 that say they are interested. So do I meet them at a bar or just say come through. Think I found some guest friendly from the list the girls gave me. Chick says don Carlton is guest friendly. What's the protocol to bringing up the cash. Do I say what will it take to have you a few hours or be my excursion buddy. They seem game. What's the chance that I can smash with no money or should I assume that they all pros.[/QUOTE]You always negotiate price before hand. It is best to ask the girls to come to your place (Most of them will be between 45 minutes to 1.5 hours late). I normal approach new girls in the following sequence.

1. I will ask them to meet in a very generic way, sounds like you are doing this already.

2. Once they reply with an affirmative messages, I will ask "what can we do together" most will reply with a "you tell me amor", even if they reply with something vague, your next message should go all out, so you don't wast your time.

3. My next message is normally something like this: "I like lots of DFK (I normally spell out all the terms, as explicit as possible), blow job without condom. " put whatever satisfies your desire here. She will either reply with "how much your pay" or something that will start the price negotiation. One thing I now always ask after we agreed to everything is "how long will you stay", most will stay for 2-4 hours for 200 k and provide GFE++ service. If you don't negotiate the duration of the stay, they will just come, fuck for 20 minutes and leave.

I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs.

They all have big asses and look like 99% are over 30 yrs old, I'm guessing multiple kids.

I don't want to fly to another continent for high ass mileage MILFs full of tattoos? WTF.

I've probably seen at least 100 profiles.

I don't like big WG.

In all seriousness you couldn't pay me to fuck these bitches.

Happy New Year to all fellow perverts.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409520]I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs.

They all have big asses and look like 99% are over 30 yrs old, I'm guessing multiple kids.[/QUOTE]I have no idea where you are looking because I have over 200 FB chica friends in Medellin, and none of them are as you describe.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2409174]It is better to have the girl visit you if you rent a place that is guest friendly. If that is the case, I would ignore milerotics for the simple reason that you don't really know what you are going to get. Your own place will be far nicer than most of these places and you will be in control of the environment to have a better experience. Some of these places are like mini casa with a few girls in the apartment.[/QUOTE]When I was in Poblado (Oct 2018), I had 3 citas with Mileroticos chicas. It's a coin flip on what you will see when you open the door / go down to the lobby to bring chica upstairs.

Chica #1 - She was about 6 feet tall (I'm 6'1 so I was good). Kinda big boned, but fun. Would I have chosen her had I seen her before the cita, probably not. But she was the best service of all 3, GFE all the way. She let me CIMWS at no extra cost. She stayed for 2 hours. After fee / taxi and a little extra propina - 250 K.

Chica#2 - She was a knockout flaca. She was from Venezuela on the run from the unrest back home. Of all things, she was a former police officer in Vennie, now doing mileroticos in MDE. She was a little standoffish at first, you could tell she was a newbie. Didn't really engage in CBJ (I didn't really engage in that either). She was very receptive to DATY. I finished with covered mish rather quickly. She waited around until I could load another bullet and finish her off. I couldn't pop a second time, but she seemed to get off (or very good at acting as though). One thing about these paisas, I don't think they will fake their orgasms. The ones I have been with want the happy ending too. They feel cheated if they don't get one. Hahaha. Anyway, I gave this former Vennie police officer 250 K as well. She was hot.

Chica#3 - Oh man. It was my last day in town. This beast came knocking on my door around 1 pm. I had champagne chilling in my fridge, ready to roll! When I opened the door, I was just happy she was able to squeeze her fat ass through my entryway. Long story short, drank some champagne, she gave a good massage with those large hands. She really put her pompas to use when apply deep pressure. The nice thing, she did give BBBJ. Very nice. I usually like to give DATY, but in this case. No. I still fucked this beast, why not. How can you not appreciate that big ass from behind doing doggie? Now, she didn't have a cellulite ass, just a nice, big, round, natural fat ass. It was still ok. I let her go at the 45 min mark. 200 K later, out you go. (I called my concierge uber guy, he took me to Loutron about an hour later. I wanted to finish my first trip to MDE with an experience that I could put in the spank bank).

Even though I had decent experiences, when I come back in Sept for 10 days in Laureles, I can assure you, Mileroticos will not be part of the program. Too many other tools / cheaper options to play with.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409520]I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs.

They all have big asses and look like 99% are over 30 yrs old, I'm guessing multiple kids.

I don't want to fly to another continent for high ass mileage MILFs full of tattoos? WTF.

I've probably seen at least 100 profiles.

I don't like big WG.

In all seriousness you couldn't pay me to fuck these bitches.

Happy New Year to all fellow perverts.[/QUOTE]This is actually hilarious. Just a few weeks ago someone else was complaining that all Facebook girls look anorexic.

Largest woman I've been with in Colombia was probably about 170#, but she was also about 5'9". Most of the Facebook girls I see are between 90-125#. Except for the one noted above, all have been light enough that I could stand up carrying them, while fucking and remain standing for at least 5 minutes. For the record, I'm 57, have a bad back and I'm not a fitness buff.

Not looking for MILFs? Stay away from Colombia and all of Latin America. The Catholics tell them "don't use birth control. " The hormones start demanding sex long before they reach 18. You'll find that most have at least one kid. That's a major driving force that makes them available. If they're bright enough to keep from getting pregnant, they have a better chance of getting a regular job and supporting themselves.

That doesn't mean they're worn out. If they all look over 30 to you, either you're looking in the wrong place, or you're looking for ones who are much, much too young for anyone to be looking for. The average age of the girls on my list is around 22.

Can't help you with the tattoos. They became mainstream popular around 30 years ago. Finding a girl under 40 without one isn't easy, but they are out there.

I'm assuming by "I don't like WG" you mean you don't like working girls. You're kinda fishing in the wrong pond here. However, it could be you're making an unfair comparison.

If you're thinking about the streetwalkers in the US, you'll find something comparable in El Centro, except the ones who look like the US streetwalkers are just old, instead of being addicted to meth. Mixed in with them you'll find streetwalkers who look like the girls you'll find in a US strip club. You'll even occasionally find a few who look like they belong on a magazine cover. Typically, you can get any of these girls, from the grannies to the glamour girls for $15 or less.

Here's some examples. Most have tattoos. Most have children. Most are between 19 and 24. These are all examples of Facebook girls, pics from their profiles.

This is sort of like groundhog day in the US. The holiday slowdown is officially over. The first "citas" post has been spotted on Facebook.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2409129]They blowing up my Facebook messenger. I have about 15 that say they are interested. So do I meet them at a bar or just say come through. Think I found some guest friendly from the list the girls gave me. [b]Chick says don Carlton is guest friendly[/b]. What's the protocol to bringing up the cash. Do I say what will it take to have you a few hours or be my excursion buddy. They seem game. What's the chance that I can smash with no money or should I assume that they all pros.[/QUOTE]If a chick told you of a guest friendly hotel, then she is no ordinary chick. An ordinary chick would know nothing about the local hotels. I don't know the rules of the hotels where I live and I can afford them. How is she going to know the rules of hotels in her area that she can not afford, unless...

Not sure if you speak Spanish, but 15 interested foreign girls blowing up your messenger that want no money?; As a buddy of mine says "That country don't exist." Would you be blowing their messenger up if you didn't want any pussy?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409520]I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs.

They all have big asses and look like 99% are over 30 yrs old, I'm guessing multiple kids.[/QUOTE]I wish you guys would make up your damn minds. Last week there was a guy saying they all look like they had rickets and now you are saying they all qualify as big game.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2399997]I really wish some of you guys would start a Medellin Facebook thread on here because some of us just aren't interested. I'm not interested in the identikit skinny assed chicas I keep seeing photos of (the last one actually looks like she has rickets)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2409100]In regards to safety, Medellin is not safe. Whether your in Pobaldo or El Centro, it is not safe, period. And after you become a victim, whether it be from the Chicas, or thieves on the street, you would never make a statement that Medellin is relatively safe, however I agree with you that the risk is worth the reward.[/QUOTE]Hell, life is not safe and none of us are getting out of it alive.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409462]You always negotiate price before hand. It is best to ask the girls to come to your place (Most of them will be between 45 minutes to 1.5 hours late). I normal approach new girls in the following sequence.

1. I will ask them to meet in a very generic way, sounds like you are doing this already.

2. Once they reply with an affirmative messages, I will ask "what can we do together" most will reply with a "you tell me amor", even if they reply with something vague, your next message should go all out, so you don't wast your time.

3. My next message is normally something like this: "I like lots of DFK (I normally spell out all the terms, as explicit as possible), blow job without condom. " put whatever satisfies your desire here. She will either reply with "how much your pay" or something that will start the price negotiation. One thing I now always ask after we agreed to everything is "how long will you stay", most will stay for 2-4 hours for 200 k and provide GFE++ service. If you don't negotiate the duration of the stay, they will just come, fuck for 20 minutes and leave.[/QUOTE]Yes, and if a indy chica tells you 1 hour, drop her quickly. She's a clock-watcher and will try to rush you through a session. The only horribly bad session that I've ever had in MDE was with a chica at the Mansion that quoted me 150 k for one hour. It was my 1st or 2nd trip so I was still dumb.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2409728]Hell, life is not safe and none of us are getting out of it alive.[/QUOTE]Paranoia tends to set in after the first time you become a victim.

I was living comfortably in a nice area of San Diego, with a golf course for a backyard, the first time my car was broken into. The second time was in nice area of Santee, across the street from a CHP officer's house and 5 doors down from a San Diego County Sheriff's Deputy. The third time was in Hillcrest, a trendy, gentrified neighborhood. My in-laws house was robbed in a rural area outside of Lakeside, where every home was in the $500 k range (30 years ago), in broad daylight. My wife's cousin was in a bowling alley in San Diego when a gang war erupted. Bullets flying everywhere.

According to my experiences, San Diego is the riskiest place in the world to live.

Anywhere there are people, there is danger. Medellin didn't become more dangerous simply because Surfer500 was with a girl when she was robbed. He's simply more aware of what happens in every city around the world every day.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409520]I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs..[/QUOTE]Just looking in the wrong spots I'd guess, there must be 1,000's of profiles.

Pretty sure none of the girls I know are over 130 lbs.

This is for Colombian vets out there. As you know many girls can come cheap and there are high end and extremely high end girls. The ones that go to Cancun Cartegena Spain and if they're lucky Dubai to work.

How much do you think a girl can make on a yearly basis in her prime?

I know prepagos who drive Audis in Colombia have rolexes that are real.

So it's obvious many of you guys are believing they're your girlfriend as I had a girl from la isla show me a pic of her 70 year old who thinks she's being faithful while she swallows my load. Lmao.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2409717]I wish you guys would make up your damn minds. Last week there was a guy saying they all look like they had rickets and now you are saying they all qualify as big game.[/QUOTE]Mr E made my day.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409520]I'm not trying to dis anyone's tastes, but I've been looking at lots of FB chicas WTF.

Are there any chicas that don't weigh more than I do? I'm about 200 lbs.

They all have big asses and look like 99% are over 30 yrs old, I'm guessing multiple kids.

I don't want to fly to another continent for high ass mileage MILFs full of tattoos? WTF.

I've probably seen at least 100 profiles.

I don't like big WG.

In all seriousness you couldn't pay me to fuck these bitches.

Happy New Year to all fellow perverts.[/QUOTE]100 profiles? That is nothing. I have been restricted by FB a few times because they say I click on too many profiles in too short of time. It took diligence and patients for me to build a good list of hot chicas that are my type, but I can tell you that they are there. I have posted photos of hot thin FB chicas on here that thick chica lovers reviled.

I have posted instructions more than once on how to go about finding them. For members who think it's too time consuming, I spent 30 minutes to an hour searching everyday for the month before my last trip. I had a list of 100 that I liked by the time of my trip. If searching for pussy is a waste of your time, I don't know what to tell you.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2409833]... If searching for pussy is a waste of your time, I don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE]You have inspired me. I am searching now!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2409832]This is for Colombian vets out there. As you know many girls can come cheap and there are high end and extremely high end girls. The ones that go to Cancun Cartegena Spain and if they're lucky Dubai to work.

How much do you think a girl can make on a yearly basis in her prime?

I know prepagos who drive Audis in Colombia have rolexes that are real.

So it's obvious many of you guys are believing they're your girlfriend as I had a girl from la isla show me a pic of her 70 year old who thinks she's being faithful while she swallows my load. Lmao.[/QUOTE]I too have had girls that I am pounding hard and ding ding ding ding, here cell phone goes off a few times and so she has to answer it, no shit as I keep plugging her hole she answer her cell, motioning for me to be quiet and not say anything, and I'm so close that I can almost clearly listen to the conversation and guess what it's her gringo boyfriend and after some blah blah blah their conversation is finished and then I finish, hehehehe.

Guys never forget. She is not your girl. It's only your turn!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2409704]This is actually hilarious. Just a few weeks ago someone else was complaining that all Facebook girls look anorexic.

Largest woman I've been with in Colombia was probably about 170#, but she was also about 5'9". Most of the Facebook girls I see are between 90-125#. Except for the one noted above, all have been light enough that I could stand up carrying them, while fucking and remain standing for at least 5 minutes. For the record, I'm 57, have a bad back and I'm not a fitness buff.

Not looking for MILFs? Stay away from Colombia and all of Latin America. The Catholics tell them "don't use birth control. " The hormones start demanding sex long before they reach 18. You'll find that most have at least one kid. That's a major driving force that makes them available. If they're bright enough to keep from getting pregnant, they have a better chance of getting a regular job and supporting themselves.

That doesn't mean they're worn out. If they all look over 30 to you, either you're looking in the wrong place, or you're looking for ones who are much, much too young for anyone to be looking for. The average age of the girls on my list is around 22.

Can't help you with the tattoos. They became mainstream popular around 30 years ago. Finding a girl under 40 without one isn't easy, but they are out there.[/QUOTE]I was very tired when I wrote that post, I meant to write GILF not MILF (1 letter typo) I'm guessing the age many girls give birth the 1st time maybe around 15-16 yrs old, so by 30 yo many are grandmothers and great grandmothers by 45 yrs old and great great grandmothers by 60 yo, its seems bizzare and offensive to suggest that mongers that don't want an over 30 GILF (or MILF) may be looking for children. Is this a case of.

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sweet%20lemons[/URL]

Reading these posts reminds me that I will be in Medellin in a few weeks spending time with my anorexic fat girl friends.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2409833]Mr E made my day.

100 profiles? That is nothing. I have been restricted by FB a few times because they say I click on too many profiles in too short of time. It took diligence and patients for me to build a good list of hot chicas that are my type, but I can tell you that they are there. I have posted photos of hot thin FB chicas on here that thick chica lovers reviled.

I have posted instructions more than once on how to go about finding them. For members who think it's too time consuming, I spent 30 minutes to an hour searching everyday for the month before my last trip. I had a list of 100 that I liked by the time of my trip. If searching for pussy is a waste of your time, I don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE]

I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness.

My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began.

After spending couple of minutes in the bathroom, she came out with a stone cold face saying, "pay me the other 200 or call a Uber". At that very moment I knew I'm fucked, back in the days when I was a rookie monger, I use to make the mistake of giving the girls some money under the wrong negotiation condition. I put up a futile argument, mentioning all our history together and I even offered up my iPhone X and apple watch as collateral. To make things even more weird, I offered 10 dollars USD as a partial payment and she turned it down, it seems like she just want money out of the ATM. After repeatedly making the argument of my trustworthiness, she relented for about 5 minutes. She took some of her clothes off, and my hands was all over body. Then all the sudden, she pushed me away, asking for more money or no sex. She broke the Cardinal rule of prostitution. I'm fairly certain that she will keep asking for more money after receiving the 200 k, she will do this until my patient ran's out and kick her out. This is one way to maximize profit, in the very short term, without deliver the service. As long as I have a hard-on, she thinks she owns me. In the world of pay-to-play, this approach is as unethical as it gets.

I decided to cut my loss and move on to pussy hunting, after all, it is only 5 am, in Medellin there are still two places open, el fasian and paradise. I grabbed my phone and sent out 8 FB messages to the girls that have a high chance of working in the very early morning. Then I told the gusto girl: "I will never see you again, think about the opportunity cost, you are really stupid. Let's go downstairs, I will get the money and wave it in your face. Enjoy the 300 k you just robbed from me. In the long run, it is your loss". We went out to the streets at 5 am, found an ATM and I took out 400 k; ready to hit el fasian. She stood outside the ATM room waiting for me. I was angry at the time, so I waved the money in her face, she give me a look of confusion. We stood there for just a few minutes until a taxi showed up. I took the taxi directly to el fasian. From the back mirror of the taxi I can see her still standing in the middle of the street.

I found a much older blonde in el fasian, her service was OK, but she gives an amazing massage. We spent 4 hours together for 300 k. By the time she leaves, an 18-year-old FB girl is ready to come over, by 10:00 am I'm back on FB-chica day-time mode.

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.

I've been sending friend requests and following girls on FB. None of them seem to add me back or respond to any messages, obviously if we are not friends they have to accept to see my messages. But only about two girls have done so. Am I doing something wrong?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2409832]This is for Colombian vets out there. As you know many girls can come cheap and there are high end and extremely high end girls. The ones that go to Cancun Cartegena Spain and if they're lucky Dubai to work.

How much do you think a girl can make on a yearly basis in her prime?

I know prepagos who drive Audis in Colombia have rolexes that are real.

So it's obvious many of you guys are believing they're your girlfriend as I had a girl from la isla show me a pic of her 70 year old who thinks she's being faithful while she swallows my load. Lmao.[/QUOTE]But because we all run in different circles, I have yet to see these well to do chicas. What I can attest to is this, my dentist took two trips to the US once I had my teeth fixed. I felt it was a bargain, he was able to visit the US twice, girls in Audis, Real Rolexs, these are things I would love to see. I have seen Ferraris in Bogota, not so much in Medellin. But I have seen gringos who go crazy with the american dollar, so who knows. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2409875]I was very tired when I wrote that post, I meant to write GILF not MILF (1 letter typo) I'm guessing the age many girls give birth the 1st time maybe around 15-16 yrs old, so by 30 yo many are grandmothers and great grandmothers by 45 yrs old and great great grandmothers by 60 yo, its seems bizzare and offensive to suggest that mongers that don't want an over 30 GILF (or MILF) may be looking for children. Is this a case of.

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sweet%20lemons[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm occasionally (or frequently) offensive. Unfortunately, there are guys who go to Colombia looking for children. Fortunately, if they're caught in Colombia, their days of looking for children are likely over.

When I look through my chica list, I see about 2% who are over 30, about 5% who look about 30,70% looking in the 20-30 range, 20% around 18-20 and 3% that I'm going to insist on seeing a cedula before discussing anything.

Most are slim to slender, a few bordering on anorexic and a few who are on the thin side of thick, with a couple of chunkers tossed in. Whatever your preference, you can find it.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness.

My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began..[/QUOTE]Here's a simple solution:

Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.

Imagine going into a restaurant and the waitress demanding a 100% tip before she'll show you the menu. Are you sticking around for that?

Why would you let a puta get away with that? I don't care what she looks like, how well she fucks, or if she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose while humming "Yankee Doodle Dandy." I'm not paying her to peg me.

She tried to make you her ***** and she succeeded. She had even given you all the signs: trying to get you to spend unnecessary money, steering you towards overpriced crap. She finally decided to see if you were ready to be her little lapdog and you begged her for the opportunity, before finally remembering who had the testicles.

I'm being harsh, but you need a smack up side of your head to bring you to your senses. Pay what you want, but wake up and realize it doesn't buy you anything, other than headaches. Party like you want but realize you're playing Russian Roulette every time.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2409852]I too have had girls that I am pounding hard and ding ding ding ding, here cell phone goes off a few times and so she has to answer it, no shit as I keep plugging her hole she answer her cell, motioning for me to be quiet and not say anything, and I'm so close that I can almost clearly listen to the conversation and guess what it's her gringo boyfriend and after some blah blah blah their conversation is finished and then I finish, hehehehe.

Guys never forget. She is not your girl. It's only your turn!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I don't tolerate that shit. I tell them not to answer their phone and shut it off. Next time you allow that behavior, when they pick up the phone to answer it, you should start moaning loudly, like your getting ready to blow a load, and see how quick the girl will end the call.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness.

My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began.

After spending couple of minutes in the bathroom, she came out with a stone cold face saying, "pay me the other 200 or call a Uber". At that very moment I knew I'm fucked, back in the days when I was a rookie monger, I use to make the mistake of giving the girls some money under the wrong negotiation condition. I put up a futile argument, mentioning all our history together and I even offered up my iPhone X and apple watch as collateral. To make things even more weird, I offered 10 dollars USD as a partial payment and she turned it down, it seems like she just want money out of the ATM. After repeatedly making the argument of my trustworthiness, she relented for about 5 minutes. She took some of her clothes off, and my hands was all over body. Then all the sudden, she pushed me away, asking for more money or no sex. She broke the Cardinal rule of prostitution. I'm fairly certain that she will keep asking for more money after receiving the 200 k, she will do this until my patient ran's out and kick her out. This is one way to maximize profit, in the very short term, without deliver the service. As long as I have a hard-on, she thinks she owns me. In the world of pay-to-play, this approach is as unethical as it gets..[/QUOTE]If I wrote everything I wanted to say it might take hours.

You point out that you know you're overpaying her, well there are some basic rules of mongering maybe I can write a list tonight or others will jump in and volunteer.

#1 never pay upfront.

#2 never overpay (its seems you can see, all overpaying does is establish ones self as an easy mark) a hooker does not respect a monger that overpays.

#3 don't beg her for pussy by "making your case".

I paid upfront 3 x in my early days of mongering, both ended very badly the police were involved after each, after I ripped my money back out of her purse, this happened 3 x once I was maced in the back of the head really heavily as I was walking out the door 1 time was so crazy the police helicopter had its light on me in Las Vegas a hotel parking lot.

I will admit I made that mistake 3 x in my rookie days drunk (BTW I quit drinking 20 yrs ago), but I took my money back all 3 times and never went to jail (and left with all of my money).

If I was there trust me, she would not have left with your money or those new shoes.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2410031]But because we all run in different circles, I have yet to see these well to do chicas. What I can attest to is this, my dentist took two trips to the US once I had my teeth fixed. I felt it was a bargain, he was able to visit the US twice, girls in Audis, Real Rolexs, these are things I would love to see. I have seen Ferraris in Bogota, not so much in Medellin. But I have seen gringos who go crazy with the american dollar, so who knows. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.

I'm asking because I'm starting to think they're is an exclusive group of girls who aren't on fb or advertising and only seeking a certain type of clientele. I have been with a couple girls who were quite expensive. Every once in a while I just want a stunner other times just a good blow job will do for 150 k.

One girl told me she only works at Envy rooftop because any client she get there will pay 250 usd but she lucky to get one every 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]
For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. [/QUOTE]


I have made the same mistakes. Then I learned not to think they think the way we do. They have a different educational background, social class, not to mention different culture. How can they think like you and me?

This is my guess, for example, I think you don't lie like she does. That is why you did the half payment but you did not achieve the result you were expecting. That is one way they can take advantage of gringos. Now I just don't think about it. I simply say no and walk away and move on to the next like you eventually did.

Another thing that I observe from your experience is overpaying doesn't gain you long term benefit.

Thank you for posting your experience.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410114]Here's a simple solution:

Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.

[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with this.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2407577]JjBee62, BMo814,

How do you find FB girls? FB search doesn't let one filter by age or even sex. Do you mine the list of followers of a known chica? Is there a better way?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]I'm no expert it was my first trip to MDE but the shit is easy. Takes a little work but easy. Find a girl in MDE where you can see her friends. Best if you can find a guy on her page where you can see his friends. For sure he has lots of prepagos and start sending friend request. Just keep clicking on girls you like and send them friend request. Of course it will take you time but be patient, also there are some you can't send friend request but send a message anyway and see if they will respond. I learned what I know from this forum read the forum and do what it says and boom. I personally think it helps to have a real fb page, if I was a prepago and you send me a message I'm going to look at your page and if I just see a couple pictures of nature maybe one or 2 of you I'm not really sure of who I'm dealing with. It's my real fb and I'm sure it helped they could see I'm a real person LOL. Also it helps to speak Spanish in my opinion. But just keep at it, I started maybe a month or so before I took my trip. Once you find a good one with lots of friends mine those hard for more friend. Eventually you will have at 10-20 friends, and between all the other options in Medellin for sure you will have a great time.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2410222]I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.

I'm asking because I'm starting to think they're is an exclusive group of girls who aren't on fb or advertising and only seeking a certain type of clientele. I have been with a couple girls who were quite expensive. Every once in a while I just want a stunner other times just a good blow job will do for 150 k.

One girl told me she only works at Envy rooftop because any client she get there will pay 250 usd but she lucky to get one every 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I think sometime we forget it's a lot of rich ass dudes who just got money to blow and yes those chicks are seeing those guys they tell the guys they have a friend, dude refers those girls to his rich friend and ya you got a puta driving a Benz LOL but none of those chicks are ever worth it. We need more forums like this so guys make better decisions and pay less for pussy.

[QUOTE=Mateocast98;2410005]I've been sending friend requests and following girls on FB. None of them seem to add me back or respond to any messages, obviously if we are not friends they have to accept to see my messages. But only about two girls have done so. Am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]You don't have to be friend to send messages. If you click on the box with the 3 dots when you are on the page if will give you option message / search profile. Boom send that message. Where there is a will there is a way.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2410235]I think sometime we forget it's a lot of rich ass dudes who just got money to blow and yes those chicks are seeing those guys they tell the guys they have a friend, dude refers those girls to his rich friend and ya you got a puta driving a Benz LOL but none of those chicks are ever worth it. We need more forums like this so guys make better decisions and pay less for pussy.[/QUOTE]I think we need a thread just on all girls names. I think it would be hilarious to see how many guys are sponsoring the same girl LOL.

These girls are very smart and know how to play each and every guy differently. They just don't bother with guys like me because I'm very direct and treat them like hookers when I tell them I need to come on your face or swallow my load.

I'm known to overpay certain girls that are not fb girls. But I get exactly what I want. Every girl has a price even these girls who think they are princesses who have sugar daddies thinking they’re better than other hookers. Sometimes it’s worth paying the price if they’re hot enough.

But there is obviously a group of higher end girls in this biz.

I was just curious to know how much they could make because if they make a lot of $$ then you really lose some negotiating power. Especially with the higher end girls.

I am planning a short trip back to Medellin next month and I was wondering if anyone could offer their thoughts on purchasing and taking tussi with a working girl? I have never taken it or other hard drugs. Is this something dangerous I shouldn't risk in Medellin? Will working girls look at me like I am crazy if I ask them to do this with me? Is there a high chance that I will be buying fake tussi? Where to acquire it? If anyone could offer some personal experiences with tussi and answer some of these questions I would greatly it. Thanks in advance for responses.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410088]I'm occasionally (or frequently) offensive. Unfortunately, there are guys who go to Colombia looking for children. Fortunately, if they're caught in Colombia, their days of looking for children are likely over.

When I look through my chica list, I see about 2% who are over 30, about 5% who look about 30,70% looking in the 20-30 range, 20% around 18-20 and 3% that I'm going to insist on seeing a cedula before discussing anything.

Most are slim to slender, a few bordering on anorexic and a few who are on the thin side of thick, with a couple of chunkers tossed in. Whatever your preference, you can find it.[/QUOTE]Haha I used to like super thin, until my field research revealed that super thin is usually a red flag for super crazy (or drug addicted), anorexics are some of the most deranged minds out there.

Whilst trying to read between the lines of what you're saying, if what you say is true, it sounds like you're saying Latinas age poorly and many fb chicas are probably younger than I think and younger than they look.

Unlike the Asians that age well, but still the over the hill at 25 yo rule applies in Asia, since Latinas don't age as well as Asians its probably only fair that number needs to be lower in Latin America, I'm going to say 22 yo.

Is over the hill for WGs for me in Latin America, in Mexico my sweet spot is definitely 18-22, same for Asia Europe USA Russia Canada.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded,.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience a few weeks back. I picked up a girl at Parque Lleras. We went back to my apartment and within 5 minutes she demands money up front. We had previously agreed to 150,000. I told her I would give her the money when she leaves.

She refused and proceeded to tell me every girl in Medellin requires payment up front. I laughed at her and told her I'm not stupid. I asked her to leave but she refused. She sat on my couch texting someone. I tried to call security but I couldn't figure out the landline LOL so I pretended I was talking to them. She told me she was calling the cops and I told her good call the cops and wait in the lobby. She got pissed off and threw a drink in my face and stormed out.

5 minutes later I had one of my previous girls from Facebook coming over to salvage the night. I decided to refrain from Parque Lleras going forward.

Oh she demanding money for time spent together LOL. 5 minutes. I didn't have any small change on me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]
For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience a few months back. A girl who I thought was a solid performer suddenly decided she was no longer going to put any effort into it. After failing to get anywhere with her and calling it quits she demanded payment in full. Refused to listen to reason and began making a scene. I eventually caved and paid her, telling her that would be last money she ever saw from me.

A week later she messages me out of the blue asking to meet again, acting like nothing had happened between us. I ignore her. She starts sending sexy photos. I respond with icy silence. Another week goes by and she messages again, apologizing for last time, promising she will act like before and that I can stay with her as long as I want. Even offers up her ass. I don't reply. She asks how she can make it up to me. I finally break my silence and say I'm going to be spending my money on other affectionate girls. She promises to behave, begging to meet, but I scorn her entreaties. She spends the next several days sending me photos of lingerie and constantly asking to meet until she finally gives up in the face of my non-responsiveness. I must admit, watching her slowly breakdown as she realized the gravity of her mistake felt better than sex with her ever did.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2407958]I will post a bit more later but I have another quick report, I am an avid cigar smoker -and for the past 3 days I have been frequenting the Habanos Point Cigar shop on Calle 10 a. The attendant is great, the poor guy is a mechanical engineer from Venezuela, speaks fluent english but the owner is an asshole. I met him (owner) yesterday, brought him a drink but the dude barely gave me the time of day. He also called and ordered the shop close early when the shop had clients spending money and watching the NFL game.

Again no scene, just taking my money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I have been to Habanos a few times and have met the Venezuelan attendant. He is a very knowledgeable guy and I enjoyed our conversations. The owner of Habanos is a Cubano. I haven't met him. The store is OK but the selection of cigars is limited.

The attendant told me that the store got robbed last month. Couple guys on a motorbike pulled up and robbed the female attendant and the stores cash and also robbed a customer sitting outside on the patio.

After hearing that story I looked around and and said ya this place is an easy target. Right off 10 A with lots of traffic in plain site to everyone. Here I am smoking a $50 cigar, enjoying an expensive whiskey and playing with my new cell phone all in plain site.

I do like La Cava Puro just up the block from Habanos. They have a larger selection of cigars and the patio is discreet. It's on CR. 38 just off 10 A.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410114]Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.[/QUOTE]You don't have to be mean, nice, smart or dumb about it. It just takes one click to block that bich. One of my favorite hobbies other than fucking them is blocking them.

The Beetles said it best. Remember, all that money is doing is renting you some pussy. Don't fool yourself that because you are paying X amount that you are getting more than me and Surf and PN and Wolf with our 30K downtown SWs!

I wouldn't even want to fuck a broad after all that arguing and back and forth. And you guys say that negotiating beforehand ruins the mood? That arguing and begging and pleading shit is a real mood ruiner. Bih you get your shit and get out. The reason to fuck with hookers in the first place is to avoid all that bs. Now you not only have the bs, but you are paying cash for it!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2410222]I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.[/QUOTE]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent. Get what you see on social media out of your head when dealing with these hoes.

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Funny one:

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[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. [/QUOTE]There is no way to rationalize crazy. I think just like when people start dating that they put on their best face and personality and it takes a while to get to know them, it's not any different with these chicas hiding their craziness for a good while until it finally comes through. There is no rational reason for her to sabotage her cash cow, but there it is, she did. I probably do not have to tell you that it probably will happen again, so block her, delete her number and move on to the next chicas. A saying about fish and the sea comes to mind.

My guess would be she either got pregnant or got a BF and she realized she wasn't going to be able to keep doing what she was doing and was just hoping for one last big payday. That or drugs but I like to be optimistic.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410278]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent. Get what you see on social media out of your head when dealing with these hoes.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsmwcXru6WY[/URL]

Funny one:

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhjcIw7oZ0eWIMj37r[/URL][/QUOTE]1 in a million are very pretty and very smart and know how to find the suckers ala Dubai.

But I have seen in different places around the world some poor WGs that live in shacks (literally) will find some guy that does glam photo layouts for WGs.

At a local high end hotel pool or beach, for some amount they can afford.

Then they set up a IG acct and try to portray themselves as they are "high end" LOL.

I love when I ask "how much" and they say "I don't want to say" I ask why not? They will say,"because I'm really expensive".

I say "LMAO good luck and adios".

But we know there are low IQ mongers that will pay her price, because she must be worth it, because why else would she charge "so much".

For the guys that like to say you get what you pay for, read sjobs latest post.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn..[/QUOTE]My take on this, first you are over paying by at least twice if not 3 times, 2. She has lost all respect for you as you have treated her too nice, yes these are putas to the bones, never ever try to think they are anything different, 4. Yes even the educated ones have little concept of keeping a good paying customer happy in the long run.

Move on which you did but damn dude because of the high price you have been paying her she is ruined / spoiled / a **** in the truest sense of the words and now she has an expectation that every other stupid gringo will pay her this amount even if she flips a switch and becomes a *****. No one wins.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2409904]I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness

My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began.

After spending couple of minutes in the bathroom, she came out with a stone cold face saying, "pay me the other 200 or call a Uber". At that very moment I knew I'm fucked, back in the days when I was a rookie monger, I use to make the mistake of giving the girls some money under the wrong negotiation condition. I put up a futile argument, mentioning all our history together and I even offered up my iPhone X and apple watch as collateral. To make things even more weird, I offered 10 dollars USD as a partial payment and she turned it down, it seems like she just want money out of the ATM. After repeatedly making the argument of my trustworthiness, she relented for about 5 minutes. She took some of her clothes off, and my hands was all over body. Then all the sudden, she pushed me away, asking for more money or no sex. She broke the Cardinal rule of prostitution. I'm fairly certain that she will keep asking for more money after receiving the 200 k, she will do this until my patient ran's out and kick her out. This is one way to maximize profit, in the very short term, without deliver the service. As long as I have a hard-on, she thinks she owns me. In the world of pay-to-play, this approach is as unethical as it gets.

I decided to cut my loss and move on to pussy hunting, after all, it is only 5 am, in Medellin there are still two places open, el fasian and paradise. I grabbed my phone and sent out 8 FB messages to the girls that have a high chance of working in the very early morning. Then I told the gusto girl: "I will never see you again, think about the opportunity cost, you are really stupid. Let's go downstairs, I will get the money and wave it in your face. Enjoy the 300 k you just robbed from me. In the long run, it is your loss". We went out to the streets at 5 am, found an ATM and I took out 400 k; ready to hit el fasian. She stood outside the ATM room waiting for me. I was angry at the time, so I waved the money in her face, she give me a look of confusion. We stood there for just a few minutes until a taxi showed up. I took the taxi directly to el fasian. From the back mirror of the taxi I can see her still standing in the middle of the street.

I found a much older blonde in el fasian, her service was OK, but she gives an amazing massage. We spent 4 hours together for 300 k. By the time she leaves, an 18-year-old FB girl is ready to come over, by 10:00 am I'm back on FB-chica day-time mode.

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.[/QUOTE]What went wrong is you let her know you had more money than brains and addition that you're a complete pushover. The minute a chica starts acting up, that's it. As Mr E said, immediately block her and end any contact with her. I don't care how hot she looks. If she gets bitchy and you try to be nice and reasonable, she's just going to ramp up the bitchiness.

And I guarantee this chica that you pay 500-700 k to is boning other guys for a fraction of that amount. And she probably won't try to rob / extort / pressure those guys into more money because she know's they've got some common sense.

Sorry for my harsh words, but this is ridiculous.

Totally agree. 98% are not making the kind of money some have calculated. Over 14 years I've known a lot of working girls, some very well. And sometimes there are days that go by (or more than days) where they do not get any citas. And that's girls we talk about and girls who are talked about on other boards. When they do get money, a lot of them are so vain they have to buy purses and shoes and clothes and make-up and have procedures done. Without a thought of how to pay rent and servicios. And these same girls are much too prideful to work at Fase Dos or other strip clubs or in casas. It really is unreal.

As far as the other goes. Some of these girls really do travel the world. And these are girls who are not he hottest (examples. Tatis OKehdho and Ana). It is amazing the places they go. Not sure if they have a sugar daddy or work as working girls for a lot more money. I knew one girl who went to Spain for a month to finance her new boobs. I know of another girl who many of you would know from FB who went to Miami for a month and came back with money to buy a car. I just have to laugh.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410278]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent....

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Hi all,

Has anyone stayed at Hotel Dix near Parque Lleras before, and do you know if they charge a chica fee? Also do you know of any girl friendly hotels or apartments / Airbnb near Parque Lleras? TIA.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2407565]Had a similar situation in Parque Lleras. Bought beers and sat in the park to drink them. Cop came up and said we couldn't drink in the park. We thanked him, got up walked 20 feet out of the park and continued drinking.[/QUOTE]That is really odd because the first thing I did when I entered Lleras was walk up to a cop and ask if it was legal to drink in the park and he said yes, I am starting to wonder if it depends on the damn cop.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410278]They are obvious drug hubs as well. The chicks could just as well be drug mules and/or thieves. I can guarantee 98% that they are not getting rich selling pussy as some of you may want to believe. Don't let social media fool you. That is the damn problem. One day these hoes showing you how they are balling and the next day they are begging for money talking about they don't have the money for rent. Get what you see on social media out of your head when dealing with these hoes.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsmwcXru6WY[/URL]

Funny one:

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhjcIw7oZ0eWIMj37r[/URL][/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. Instagram is used to try to trick all the newbie gringos who don't know better.

Yes they will always need $$. When they get desperate I've see prices drop dramatically. But of course with that so does the service.

Case in point. A few trips ago had a hot Instagram chick an absolute knockout. She opened with 250 usd for an all nighter. I said fuck it ok that's what you want? Then this is what I want done to me and do to you. She agrees. She hits me up all the time when I'll be back etc etc. I give my boy her number. Now he's got more $$ than me but much more frugal. He refuses to pay her asking. Bargains her down to 400 k for 2 hours. Tells me it was a horrible rush job terrible services. Etc etc.

So yes I agree these girls are always in need of $$. My assumption is the really hot ones who hustle hard make about 1500-2000 usd per month on average.

That's including all the money pick ups from dumb gringos coming in every month. Lmao.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2410311]That is really odd because the first thing I did when I entered Lleras was walk up to a cop and ask if it was legal to drink in the park and he said yes, I am starting to wonder if it depends on the damn cop.[/QUOTE]Who knows. When I was there I drank right in front of the cop and did not ask. And everyone else was doing the same thing. When I say everyone else there were literally like 50 people walking around with drinks so who knows. This was a Sat night.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2410304]Totally agree. 98% are not making the kind of money some have calculated. Over 14 years I've known a lot of working girls, some very well. And sometimes there are days that go by (or more than days) where they do not get any citas. And that's girls we talk about and girls who are talked about on other boards. When they do get money, a lot of them are so vain they have to buy purses and shoes and clothes and make-up and have procedures done. Without a thought of how to pay rent and servicios. And these same girls are much too prideful to work at Fase Dos or other strip clubs or in casas. It really is unreal.

As far as the other goes. Some of these girls really do travel the world. And these are girls who are not he hottest (examples. Tatis OKehdho and Ana). It is amazing the places they go. Not sure if they have a sugar daddy or work as working girls for a lot more money. I knew one girl who went to Spain for a month to finance her new boobs. I know of another girl who many of you would know from FB who went to Miami for a month and came back with money to buy a car. I just have to laugh.[/QUOTE]They don't have to be the hottest one but then again beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But all these girls are just looking to put the hook into guys. Whoever bites is the ones they take advantage of.

Girls who have cars.

Girls who pick up 4-5 money transfers in the beginning of the month.

Girls who like to make themselves look expensive.

It's all just for show. They really don't realize the more expensive they look is actually hurting them. Cause guys with $$ and guys who are experienced mongers are not stupid. They all know where it comes from.

So the only value they see in them is for the dirty things we can do to them.

I use Google Maps and Google Maps Street View a lot. To plan trips and recon areas that I may or may not visit. I even have a virtual reality headgear I can use to virtually go virtually anywhere, but this is the most interesting thing I have accidentally discovered. I found this on Avenida Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Sucre (Carrera 47) On block north and then about 4 1/2 blocks East of Plaza Botero . I had more images but they kept failing to upload even after I tweaked them a couple of times. The far right image is a close up of the far left image and the middle image is the second frame.

I have gone back and forth about posting these images that I found on Google Maps because for some naive people it will be the only impression they have of Medellin. So I am going to post them with a disclaimer.

These images capture a single moment in time from over two years ago and if anyone wants to know about the safety of El Centro area of Medellin they should read the many many post of members on this forum. Also to be fair this does not look random and most likely a result of a personal beef between two people.

Google Maps Street View June 2017

[QUOTE=Uthred;2410314]Who knows. When I was there I drank right in front of the cop and did not ask. And everyone else was doing the same thing. When I say everyone else there were literally like 50 people walking around with drinks so who knows. This was a Sat night.[/QUOTE]Actually inside the park, or walking around the area? Walking around the area is no problem. The rule is against drinking inside the park.

[QUOTE=Combo;2410303]What went wrong is you let her know you had more money than brains and addition that you're a complete pushover. [/QUOTE]I guess being mean to people is just not my forte. Anyways, having more money than brain is certainly better than the other way around.

[QUOTE=Combo;2410303]And I guarantee this chica that you pay 500-700 k to is boning other guys for a fraction of that amount. And she probably won't try to rob / extort / pressure those guys into more money because she know's they've got some common sense. [/QUOTE]I know that if I get her during day time or outside of gusto, I can bang her for 200 k, but I enjoy a good party and I'm willing to pay for it; after all, 300 k is less than 2 good lap dances in Vegas. If you read my full post, my day started out with a fb chica that I paid 300 k for 7 hours. I cum three times and she cleaned my apartment. At night time, I'm looking for a different kind of fun.

I'm not sure if I understood your argument. Why would she push a cash cow like me to the extreme over 200 k? Especially if she is fucking other guys that is much meaner, having an easily triggered temper and extremely difficult to up-sell? Any person with a reasonable intelligence would definitely protect the source that generates the most amount of profit. I really don't see how her behavior reflects that she got any common sense.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410273]The Beetles said it best. Remember, all that money is doing is renting you some pussy. Don't fool yourself that because you are paying X amount that you are getting more than me and Surf and PN and Wolf with our 30K downtown SWs! [/QUOTE]I guess I have to give centro a few more try to find out if the fb, tinder or gusto pussy is superior or not. I was in centro yesterday afternoon, around 5:30 pm, I walked around Museo the Antioquia, Carrera 52 a and tejelo, and calle 53 and Av. De Greriff. This is my second day time trip there. I did not pick any girls, it's slightly challenging with zero Spanish skills, but I plan to give it a try next time. During the day I felt completely safe. Out of the 100+ girls I have seen there (I walked for 1. 5 hours) I found 3 to 4 girls doable, 1 or 2 very doable, and there are 1 or 2 girls who is super hot. So I guess on average, 1 out of 10 girls is fuckable. There is nothing wrong with that, and I love the downtown atmosphere. The only thing I don't like is that the other 90% of SW are all 5 and below In my book (some I would give -1); I would pay them to just to stay at home, so I can have a much more pleasant time walking around. I guess one of the key benefit of a place like gusto is that the average look is 7. 5 with a very tight standard deviation (1.5 max). In a way, I'm paying to not see the 6 and below.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2410273] I wouldn't even want to fuck a broad after all that arguing and back and forth. And you guys say that negotiating beforehand ruins the mood? That arguing and begging and pleading shit is a real mood ruiner. Bih you get your shit and get out. The reason to fuck with hookers in the first place is to avoid all that bs. Now you not only have the bs, but you are paying cash for it![/QUOTE]I'm with you on that 100%, I fucking hate negotiation. Note we are not negotiating on the price, we are negotiating on whether it make sense to go out on the street at 5 am to look for an ATM. Anyway, you are absolutely right, negotiation is a major mood killer.

[QUOTE=Talon;2410263]I must admit, watching her slowly breakdown as she realized the gravity of her mistake felt better than sex with her ever did.[/QUOTE]Nicely done!

This girl is a gusto regular, so am I. From the door-man to the bartenders to the taxi drivers to the girls, we all on first name basis. It will be awkward next time we see each other in gusto, but what the hell, like mr. Mojo Bandit pointed out, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2410314]Who knows. When I was there I drank right in front of the cop and did not ask. And everyone else was doing the same thing. When I say everyone else there were literally like 50 people walking around with drinks so who knows. This was a Sat night.[/QUOTE]I was in Lleras for the last three nights, I walked around with a bottle of beer in the park all night. I always stay close to the cops, for safety concerns. I did not experience any issues at all.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2410224]Another thing that I observe from your experience is overpaying doesn't gain you long term benefit.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I guess depending on the cultural and educational background people have different perception on generosity. Some will see it as weakness, others will see it as kindness. I admit, overpaying doesn't always translate into long term benefit.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2410114]Here's a simple solution:

Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.

Imagine going into a restaurant and the waitress demanding a 100% tip before she'll show you the menu. Are you sticking around for that?

Why would you let a puta get away with that? I don't care what she looks like, how well she fucks, or if she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose while humming "Yankee Doodle Dandy." I'm not paying her to peg me.

She tried to make you her ***** and she succeeded. She had even given you all the signs: trying to get you to spend unnecessary money, steering you towards overpriced crap. She finally decided to see if you were ready to be her little lapdog and you begged her for the opportunity, before finally remembering who had the testicles.

I'm being harsh, but you need a smack up side of your head to bring you to your senses. Pay what you want, but wake up and realize it doesn't buy you anything, other than headaches. Party like you want but realize you're playing Russian Roulette every time.[/QUOTE]Good reply, I like your writing style, it's humorous and intelligent at the same time. After having a few hours of sleep, I did smacked the up side of my head. But man, this is incomprehensible to me. I have seen her 7 times, we kept a conversation going while I was back in the states, and she knew that I will stay in Medellin for another 3 weeks. I will see her probably 1-3 nights a week, just like my last visit. I know how cheap pussy is in Medellin, she sure knows it better than I do. Does her action make any sense?

I'm a guy that likes to walk around sipping a beer. I love places that allow this and it's one of the many reasons I like the city of Medellin. I often drank while walking around Parque Lleras until about three to four years ago the cops told me it was no longer legal to do so. My understanding is that this new law was reversed about six to eight months ago and once again it is legal to drink in Lleras. So your different expeiences might have to do with the timeline of when it happened.

Does anyone have a recent driver recommendation? I have tried three of the ones on the chica list but I'm getting either 1 tick on whatsapp messages or bounce backs on email addresses.

I have a short trip later this month so want to make the most of it with a driver who speaks English and knows all the spots.

Just wondering if anyone knows if La Isla or Luotron is open today (Monday's a holiday, but I'm never too sure with these things.).