Egypt

Many thnx angelonholidays!!!

And the idea with the cleaning lady is brilliant! :D

Unfortunately it will be the typical business trip. About 2 - 3 days and for sure in a hotel. So I guess: nothing and less then nothing. :(

[QUOTE=Yogi-Bear]Many thnx angelonholidays!!!

And the idea with the cleaning lady is brilliant! :D

Unfortunately it will be the typical business trip. About 2 - 3 days and for sure in a hotel. So I guess: nothing and less then nothing. :([/QUOTE]Hey Yogi-Bear,

Well I couldn't accept the fact that Alexandria is a hopeless case, so I have been doing some detective work, the result: There is Hope after all :D

Seeing how succesful Hilton Ramsis in Cairo is about providing extra services. I discovered that the same spa owner (Nabila) used to have a massage parlour in Kiro Seiz mall, Mostafa Kamel district, Abu Eir Street in Alexandria but the Vice police closed it down over a year ago. Last word is that it is opened again now! She is also now running the Spa in a Hotel Called Paradise Inn in Montazah... that spa is also serving Sheraton Hotel which is loaded with arab tourists, so the assumtion is that she continues her very fine tradition there!!

I havent been to Alex again after this information became available to me, but I will chack it out at the first opportunity and report. Anyone heading to Alex sooner please check it out and let us know.

Happy Hunting!

hello,, all, i spent four months in cairo as a student, and the situation is certainly not monger friendly. in egypt, like in many other countries in the middle east, non pros may be easier to get than p4p. speaking a small amount of arabic and having your own apartment certainly helps. be aware of muslim holidays, as well as the dates of the month of ramadan. most clubs will be closed, and the same men who would push you into their underground bars (more about that later) and advertise girls will yell at you, and create an awkward situation. as of this report, 1 usd = 5. 75 egyptian pounds (le).

first the p4p scene:

1. disco africana (now called nirvana but all taxi drivers know the former name as well). the best bet for going home with a girl, and easy on your wallet. you pay a 40 le entrance fee and a beer is about 12 le. on the dance floor is a slew of single girls (nearly all from sudan or central africa). unless there is a man dancing with them, they are available. just walk up to them and make small talk. then ask them to come home with you. they will then quote a high price for full service (300 le), but you can work them down to 100 le. the good thing is that most have their own place, meaning you don’t have to tip your bowwab (doorman) or hotel security. the downside is that most aren’t that attractive (5/10 tops) and aids is a much higher risk with them than others, as they don’t insist on a condom if you pay them extra. also, if black girls aren’t your thing, then you may not want to come here.

2. ramses hilton massage parlor. about 150 le for one hour massage. you have choice of central asian, east asian, russian, moroccan, or the rare egyptian. the russian and arab girls are generally better looking and they will start at 300 le for hj, but you can negotiate them down to 100 le. my first time i had a decent looking tajik girl who gave poor topless massage (but who cares about the massage? ) and then decent hj for 100 le. second time i opted for an egyptian girl who demanded 300. after 10 minutes of negotiating, i got her down to 120 le. mechanical hj which i could have done myself free of charge. not bad all in all if you get a pretty masseuse, but as far as i know, they don’t provide other services. may differ if you have a room there.

3. cabarets/baladi bars/cafes/nightclubs. you will see them rep001tered around cairo with, and pyramid street (sharia el-harem) is filled with them. they vary in class and price, but the general concept is the same. you’re seated and watch plump belly dancers dance poorly while shaking their fully covered chest and ass in your face as you listen to a live band crank out egyptian pop. these cater mainly to egyptian men for whom this is one of the few places they can drink beer and watch girls dance. the ones on pyramid street cater mainly to visiting gulfies who see nothing wrong with blowing 300 dollars for beer and cigarettes. in any case, once they find out you’re a westerner, you will get everyone haggling you for tips they will jack up the prices and you may get a bill of 200 dollars for one beer and a kleenex! rather than yelling at the owner, it’s best to stay clear of these places. i know a kuwaiti guy who blew 1500 le on a girl just because she kissed him once. it’s great to go once with a local to enjoy the show. if you are lucky, the owner of the nightclub may give you numbers of prostitutes (sharameet), but expect ridiculously high prices.

4. street walkers. hard to find during the day. but if you’re driving around at night and see a girl sitting by herself and doing nothing at 3 am, it is safe to assume that she’s working. the problem is that most don’t speak anything but arabic, and they’re dirty. if you make the mistake of letting them into your apartment, expect them to make off with a few of your household items. due to their poverty and being outside all day in the heat and dust, their looks are 3/10 tops, and their dirtiness brings that down. they shouldn’t charge more than 50 le, but make sure to double bag before entering.

5. your maid. this old hag who always asks for extra tips comes into use for providing girls. just ask her for banaat (girls) or sharameet, and she should oblige. you will pay 100 le per visit, in addition to whatever baksheesh you give the maid. make sure to be discreet, or your neighbors will either stop talking to you or ask for a freebie. the girls are decent, 5-7, and you can rest assured that they won’t try to steal.

non pros

1. auc/cac girls. the best dressed and best looking out of any egyptian girls. many would stand out in america for being drop dead gorgeous. unfortunately, they hang out with egyptian males in large groups composed entirely of upper class egyptians. because american university in cairo and cairo american college charge about 20, 000 usd per year, and also because they go to school with foreigners and take vacations in america and europe, they don’t think much of the rich foreigner. good to look at after all the hijabis in cairo, but no action.

2. al-azhar park. an oasis in the middle of the crowded streets. because this is sheltered from the public eye, male-females relations are more relaxed. we had hijabis coming up to us and asking to take a pic with us, and then exchanging numbers. you can freely talk to girls here, and most are from middle or lower class, so you may find luck in taking them out to the five star restaurants. (remember that an engineer makes about 100 usd per month, so a 30 dollar meal is unheard of for them). you will find girls giving anal sex freely in exchange for continued gifts.

3. cairo streets/shops. hit or miss; strike up conversations with single girls or groups of two and if they speak decent english and keep up the conversation, ask them for their number. if they give it, it means you can bring them back to your place for a nice relaxing fuck. you may get passerby yelling at you for talking to single girls, but they’ll keep walking once you threaten to call the police.

just remember that the police are on your side and if any one bothers you for mongering, the prospect of going to an egyptian jail will make them run away. i was never successful at hard rock or any other of the nightclubs, but i guess persistence might pay off.

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Hello Alarbot83,

do you know if the restaurant called "Da Bafoo" in Mohandiessen (El-Batal Abdel Ahmed Aziz Street) is still existing and, if yes, if it still have sudanese girls there in the evening? I made a post in january 2004 about it but
since long time I don't read anything about it...
And do you believe the situation is changing about to bring a girl in an 5 stars hotel?

Thanks

Sweetboy07

[QUOTE=Sweetboy07]Hello Alarbot83,

And do you believe the situation is changing about to bring a girl in an 5 stars hotel?

Thanks

Sweetboy07[/QUOTE]In an earlier post I explained that I have been in Ramsis Hilton, and I dont see any problem bringing a girl into this hotel. There are several restaurants in the first floor of the hotel, so you always can take the elevator from there and go to the room with your girl. Some months ago I stayed in the Hilton Nile, and also there I think it will be no problem to take a girl into the room, as there is the shopping center and some restaurants you enter through the hotel lobby.

Hunter

Concerning the p4p you are absolutley right. I tried it as you see in my report. But concerning the non p4p. How do you find it easier? Specialy the hit or miss case that you mentioned it. It means I could talk to any girl and after giving me her phone no she will come to my place imediately for having sex with me? I ve been told that its hard as hell in egypt to do this. One scotish friend of mine told me that he used to knew Egyptian girl in Egypt. She didn't let him sleep with her and she was trying to convert him to islam to marry him and the guy was very very good looking he told me its not easy to hunt girls from streets. I may be visit cairo in June. I'll see.

Sweetboy07,

I don't know that restaurant so I can't help you there. I'm not too familiar with the 5 star hotels as I've never stayed there so Hunter would be your best bet to ask.

[QUOTE=Harem2007]Concerning the p4p you are absolutley right. I tried it as you see in my report. But concerning the non p4p. How do you find it easier? Specialy the hit or miss case that you mentioned it. It means I could talk to any girl and after giving me her phone no she will come to my place imediately for having sex with me? I ve been told that its hard as hell in egypt to do this. One scotish friend of mine told me that he used to knew Egyptian girl in Egypt. She didn't let him sleep with her and she was trying to convert him to islam to marry him and the guy was very very good looking he told me its not easy to hunt girls from streets. I may be visit cairo in June. I'll see.[/QUOTE]

No, the odds are that the majority of girls that you talk to won't talk back, let alone give their phone numbers. Yes, Egypt is a lot harder to find amateur action than many other countries. But I prefer the non pros because quality P4P is hard to find. Some of the other members seem to have found good FS, but that too isn't guaranteed on a regular basis (as far as I know). It takes a tremendous amount of patience, and a good command of Arabic to get amateur girls. I dont mean to sound un-PC , but Coptic Christian girls are generally secular and Westernized (in Cairo), and they wear miniskirts, drink, and most see nothing wrong in relations with Western men. if you're looking for a GFE, you should try there. Also, your country's embassy should have parties on a regular basis for its citizens, go there and you might be able to find some horny expat women for whom harrassment by locals on the streets is the most action they've gotten. Finally, I would suggest Hard Rock, TGI Friday's, Chili's etc. along with local "discotheques" (a nightclub in Egypt is the bellydance/live band routine). The ratio in the discos is atrocious (8 men to 1 girl sometimes) and most girls there are with their boyfriends, but you get luck there as well.

As I said, finding quality FS in Egypt is difficult; if you're there for the long haul, dont forget that a round trip bus ride to the massage parlors and strip clubs of Tel Aviv is only 75 USD ;)

[QUOTE=Alarbot83]Sweetboy07,

I don't know that restaurant so I can't help you there. I'm not too familiar with the 5 star hotels as I've never stayed there so Hunter would be your best bet to ask.[/QUOTE]Sorry I also dont know, I am just in Cairo 2/3 times a year for business. My experience is just what I described in an earlier mail.

Hunter

Any one with experiences in the Oasis?

I heard that most "Adultress" women who are cought in oasis like Siwa and so on, are sent to exile to the Oasis of "Baharia"!? That place sounds like The place to be if its true!! :-)

Hi guys,

I have been following some of the recent exchanges. Here are some quick tips from a Cairo old-timer:

- 5-star hotels: I had no problems bringing in women (non-professionals) to the Nile Hilton, Grand Hayatt and Mariott. I usally check in first, then my woman would follow me later. I suspect that if the woman is a known working girl in this hotel, then the security and/or reception might stop her... just to make sure they get their usual commission :)

- Massage parlors: yes, the Shery Nile at Rasmsis is the most convenient for short-term visitors, but it's certainly not the cheapest. There are several massage parlors in town (mostly concentrated in Mohandessin and Nasr City) which provide happy-ending services (HJ+) at very reasonable prices. The range is 120-150LE per session (45-60 minutes), plus about 20-50 LE tip for HJ (might get more services for extra tips). A mix of Egyptians, Moroccans and CIS girls, though very few speak any English. Some might accept outcall (home/hotel) services.

Check out the following massage places (call to get full address and indications):

- Bella Dona: tel. 302-3321/3351; Mohandessin, behind Atlas Hotel
- Dream Gym: tel. 748-6746; Mohandessin, off Shehab Str.
- Dana Center: tel. 016-3329413; Mohanedssin; 6 Ahmad Orabi Str
- Nile Gym: tel. 016-2555719; Manial, University Bridge
- 2-brothers: tel. 010-6474197; Mohadessin; Across the street from th Duty Free Shop.

Please send feedbacks about your experiences and recommedations and any other suggestions. Maybe we can develop a Guide Michelin for MPs in Cairo :)

Have fun.

Cheers,

Mak

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Bigmak,

Thanks for an excellent report.
Have you tried any of these massage parlors? Which one would you recommend?

First trip to Egypt. I'm going to Cairo on September 24 and staying at the Grand Hyatt since I see it highly recommended in the posts. I just ran into a site [url]www.muslima.com[/url] to meet nonpros. I have not signed up yet and I do not speak Arabic. What are my chances of hooking up with a few from the site once I get there (not being Muslim in addition to being a Black American)?

The site that you ve mentioned is a marriage site where muslim women met muslim men for marriage its not a dating site.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]First trip to Egypt. I'm going to Cairo on September 24 and staying at the Grand Hyatt since I see it highly recommended in the posts. I just ran into a site [url]www.muslima.com[/url] to meet nonpros. I have not signed up yet and I do not speak Arabic. What are my chances of hooking up with a few from the site once I get there (not being Muslim in addition to being a Black American)?[/QUOTE]Hello Mr. Int'l

Most of the girls on these sites are actually looking for marriage, Specially that Muslima is a Matrimonial site for "religious" girls. Try the site "www.metrodate.com" it has more "civilian" girls who are western style and can speak english, start the correspondance early enough since it will take a while before you reach the "dating" phase! Also when you register an account set your country as Egypt not the US. This way they can feel you are more of an xpat than a tourist, also, they can search and find you and maybe someone will start contacting you sooner. No quick solutions there I'm afraid. Problably more luck in Hotel lobby.

[QUOTE=anExpat]Bigmak,

Thanks for an excellent report.

Have you tried any of these massage parlors? Which one would you recommend?[/QUOTE]Thanks Expat. I tried them all, except 2-brothers which I hope to try soon. My favorites so far are Dream Gym (Russians) and Dana Center (Egyptians). In both places happy endings are the name of the game :) ..but many of these ladies tend to move around from one MP to another. Lowest on my list is Bella Dona with a sleezy agressive guy running the show.

Please share your experiences when/if you try any of these places or any new ones.

Have fun :)