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[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1108543]If I remember correctly you yourself, Toscana, had a "cheat list" clutched in you hand the first time we met at Samya. I may have even asked to see it.

For myself lists are of little use as I seem to inevitably forget them when I venture into a club, much like the grocery list that sits on the kitchen table as I stand in the supermarket scratching my head, trying to remember what was on it. [/QUOTE]So good are the FKKs that the positives list is always long and the negatives short. So any list I take in is generally the positives, which I would otherwise fail to remember well. The negatives I learn off by heart. I also have a shorthand code, and awful handwriting, so that even if I lost the list, no one would have a clue what it's all about.

Sounds more scientific than it is. In reality it's only of marginal help. Especially if I have again mislaid my glasses in some corner of the club, and can't remember where the fuck I left them.

But then reading the forums assiduously really has on occasion helped me find a good'un.

I'd like to start a new thread here for women (working or retired) who are special or different in some way. Anyone else interested? Thought we might share some interesting experiences.

Hello, friends:

Quick question. I know it has been posted before but is there a quick list of FKK and Partytreffs in or near Frankfurt? I am aware of Palace, been there many times and is my favorite. Just wondering about locaitons of the others? Within 20km of city?

Thank you kindly!

[QUOTE=Dave Jamsis; 1110276]Hello, friends:

Quick question. I know it has been posted before but is there a quick list of FKK and Partytreffs in or near Frankfurt? I am aware of Palace, been there many times and is my favorite. Just wondering about locaitons of the others? Within 20km of city? [/QUOTE]Here you go, within 20km:

[url]www.fkk-mainhattan.de[/url]

[url]www.fkk-oase.de[/url]

Forget the rest.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1110328]Here you go, within 20km:

[url]www.fkk-mainhattan.de[/url]

[url]www.fkk-oase.de[/url]

Forget the rest.

HB[/QUOTE]I kind of understanding of all the scenarios in FKK (never been any yet, but will be in German on March), but what's the deal about PartyTreff club.

It seems player pays higher entrance fee, then includes food, wellness facilities (if there is any) , and sex. The question is the women working in PT club need be paid (or tip) by the player, or just try to approaching ones to try have the actions afterward. Please help to get more detail information.

TIA.

[QUOTE=SXone21; 1110763]Please help to get more detail information.

TIA. [/QUOTE]Let me try to summarize the scene for you so you can make a more educated choice on what clubs to visit.

Top of the list you have the large Fkk and Sauna clubs, you pay more for entry that includes good to somewhat great food, pretty good facilities and a large selection of women that you have to pay a minimum of 50 euro's per half hour. You'll find a good mix of stunner, good lookers with the occasional dog thrown in. You pay each 50 and get to choose who you go with.

Second tier are the smaller fkk and sauna clubs, the number of girls vary by club but 'usually' there's cheaper entrance, smaller wellness facilities and the food can vary considerably. You still have to pay 50 each to the girls but with the smaller entrance fee you have some savings. You can sometimes find a jem or two working at these smaller clubs who don't want to work the fast pace of the larger clubs.

And at the bottom. The partytreff type clubs. Its comes down to this. You get what you pay for. Period. Don't expect any stunners, any good lookers at these clubs. Most are pretty well past their prime and can't work at any of the other clubs. You might find a few that are passable, cute'ish. But you wouldn't give them a second look at a large club. But if your in it for the savings, can eat just about anything, fuck just about anything. Then partytreff's are the way to go.

I've exaggerated to make a point. There are exceptions, partytreff type clubs that at times are worth the price of admission. Just remember you get what you pay for. And in my book. 50 euro's is a hell of a cheap price for some of the girls I've come across at the regular clubs. I've paid 100 euro's and have gotten 4 fucks that didn't come close to two girls at a bigger club. The performance and attitude of a girl getting 50 euro's or more is hands down better than a girl who might be getting 10 euro's for her time on her back.

In some smaller clubs (or second tier clubs) you do pay less than 50€/30min, e. G. Acapulco.

HB

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1108543]Lastly I have to be a bit coy as to her identity (by specific request) but this past week, between the years, I had a stellar hour long session with a certain young lady who is not a regular at Artemis but whom I hooked up with on the '09 Fall Tour courtesy of Iseeu. She is a small, dark haired. Olive skinned young lady who was moonlighting the week at the Arte and literally made my year with her silken tongue.

Members who I know personally feel free to PM me for her identity. [/QUOTE]Hi Angus Magee,

I saw who I believe to be your mysterious girl in a club last week. She is cheating on you.

[QUOTE=Basketcase; 1111037]Hi Angus Magee,

I saw who I believe to be your mysterious girl in a club last week. She is cheating on you. [/QUOTE]She can cheat on me all she wants just so long as she makes regular once a year visits to Artemis.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1111053]She can cheat on me all she wants just so long as she makes regular once a year visits to Artemis.

AM[/QUOTE]You can be more regular with her if you attend her regular club. Your description is very precise. Check if I have the right one by reviewing my line up lists when I eventually post them from my Jan 2011 visits.

I have noticed on my last two visits to Germany, that true FKK clubs seem to be fewer in number while Pauschals and Sauna clubs are much more numerous? Many FKK clubs have rebranded themselves as sauna clubs with women who are scantily clad rather than fully nude. I honestly do not like this trend. The biggest thing about visiting Germany is to see the rather unrestrained raunchiness of a nude FKK club filled with young beauties displaying their flesh for all to see. I am not too fond of this new development at all.

[QUOTE=Australiasucks;1111794]I have noticed on my last two visits to Germany, that true FKK clubs seem to be fewer in number while Pauschals and Sauna clubs are much more numerous? Many FKK clubs have rebranded themselves as sauna clubs with women who are scantily clad rather than fully nude. I honestly do not like this trend. The biggest thing about visiting Germany is to see the rather unrestrained raunchiness of a nude FKK club filled with young beauties displaying their flesh for all to see. I am not too fond of this new development at all.[/QUOTE]I agree that so-called Pauschalclubs have grown in number, as the market tries to find effective service / price points below the saunaclub / FKK standard.

However, with regard to FKK Vs Saunaclub, this has not been my recent experience. Were your earlier and recent visits to the same region? For sure any trip to NRW will be hard pressed to find a decent FKK (Babylon?).

I have recently visited and reported upon two new and excellent true FKKs, Point and First which you might well enjoy to visit. Pirates Park, which I have not yet written up is also a worthy FKK.

Like you, I also greatly prefer a true FKK: though my preferred arrangement is naked girls, but with robes available for the ice-bears. (Sorry I am a robe-wimp HB).

There is no law of man or nature that I know of that prevents clubs in NRW and elsewhere to allow or encourage nudity among female guests. Maybe we should just express our preferences more vocally at club receptions and to the girls themselves.

Have Fun,

PL

[QUOTE=Plover 23; 1111978]I agree that so-called Pauschalclubs have grown in number, as the market tries to find effective service / price points below the saunaclub / FKK standard.

However, with regard to FKK Vs Saunaclub, this has not been my recent experience. Were your earlier and recent visits to the same region? For sure any trip to NRW will be hard pressed to find a decent FKK (Babylon?).

I have recently visited and reported upon two new and excellent true FKKs, Point and First which you might well enjoy to visit. Pirates Park, which I have not yet written up is also a worthy FKK.

Like you, I also greatly prefer a true FKK: though my preferred arrangement is naked girls, but with robes available for the ice-bears. (Sorry I am a robe-wimp HB).

There is no law of man or nature that I know of that prevents clubs in NRW and elsewhere to allow or encourage nudity among female guests. Maybe we should just express our preferences more vocally at club receptions and to the girls themselves.

Have Fun,

PL[/QUOTE]I have been to Germany two times in 2010, both times in the NRW region, this used to have the highest concentration of all nude FKK clubs, very few good ones now exist. Many of them have been converted to Pauschal or Saunaclubs.

One of my favorite clubs, Cocoon was turned into Pauschal, it was sad to see such a good club turn into a shithole.

Babylon has never recovered, it was a great club back in 2001. Many other FKK clubs in the region are now Saunaclubs.

I went to quite a few old haunts, Babylon, Dolce Vita, Mondial, they have all slipped.

Partyreff Dorsten has an FKK day, actually 2 days a week. But that is little consolation.

Even quite a few clubs in other regions are becoming more like Sauna type establishments than true FKK clubs. Like Palace in Frankfurt. Go to the webpage of FKK Sylt, its now Saunaclub Sylt, a few years ago they had raunchy photos of the nude women in their club now its pretty lukewarm.

The girls have become less attractive as well. I used to see top class Eastern Euro beauties from Russia and Ukraine. Now mostly Romanian and Bulgarian girls in most NRW clubs. I guess Russia is now on the rebound so maybe these girls went back home.

The big reason I punt in the NRW is because they have the biggest concentration of clubs in Germany and the fact that service is of higher quality than Frankfurt because most clients are locals, so there is an incentive for good service.

Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.

- transportation (how to get there by public transportation, train, bus, taxi, car)

- hotels.

- airports close by.

- etc?

These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1112420]These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.HB[/QUOTE]Makes sense to me HB. But getting people to post in that thread, there is the challenge. I mean, take a look at the photo galleries and how many non photo posts there are.

Maybe I am just cynical but I doubt it would work. Ultimately well ordered boards have moderation that can move irrelevant posts to the appropriate thread.