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This is the sort of scum we are dealing with within the "Stop the Steal" movement. It's not a wonder why the vast majority of the domestic terrorism in the US comes from the far right, as has been confirmed by DHS and confirmed here with links time and again. These are gullible, unintelligent people that lack the ability to fact check and think critically.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/politics/secretaries-of-state-personal-threats-trump-election-lies/index.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2618650]Please, please, please go back to grade school and try to learn something!
Democrats are [B]not[/B] socialists. That's a Fux "News" talking point for trump's favorite demographic, the poorly educated.
No Democrat ever has said that they want open borders. That's a Fux "News" talking point for trump's favorite demographic, the poorly educated.
No Democrat wants increased crime. That's a Fux "News" talking point for trump's favorite demographic, the poorly educated.
That 74 million Americans were hoodwinked into voting for the former guy is an indictment of America's education system. But it does validate one thing: that the former guy loves the poorly educated.[/QUOTE]I guess Biden and Harris are not democrats then. Both of them have allowed the border open for 1,700,000 illegals since they have been in office. Thousands more illegals in their way saying tell Biden we are coming to the democrats open border. If democrats don't want open borders why don't they close it. Why build a fence to keep people out of Biden vacation home but not a fence to have a secure border. 80% of Americans know that the southern border is not secure. There are still some fools that think otherwise.
Every democrat state is defunding police. California and Minnesota don't prosecute shoplifters. Chicago doesn't prosecute gun violence. Democrats have no problem with letting criminals run free. I agree. Democrats aren't socialists but the majority of the senators that claim to be democrat are socialists just the the socialists on this forum who claim to be democrats. I am a democrat.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2618755]The 2 "recessions" under Truman and Carter were tiny and insignificant compared to any of the Great Recessions and Serial Recessions under Repubs. Truman's didn't even raise the Unemployment Rate and Carter's was purposely induced by the Fed in order to tackle and tame hyper inflation, which it did. Neither lasted more than 2-3 quarters. In fact, Carter's was over by the middle of the 2nd quarter of negative GDP growth.
I go back 100 years for 2 important reasons; one is going back more than 100 years is not necessary in order to prove a DEFINITE pattern in modern economics between the 2 Parties.
And, two, it was only about 100 years ago that the Federal Reserve was established, up, running and DOING what it has been doing ever since. To compare economic results for any time before that was happening vs after it was happening is apples to oranges.
Considering WWI and the flu pandemic was preventing the newly established Federal Reserve from figuring out what it was doing and how to do it, going back even that far would be dumb.
Maybe that is why focusing on that era and returning to it over and over again appeals to you..[/QUOTE]Keep blaming the past presidents and keep ignoring the Biden failures. See how that works out for you because it is not working for America. Biden policies are creating more poor and more welfare. You better wise up soon because there won't be enough Americans to fund your welfare check.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2618915]This is the sort of scum we are dealing with within the "Stop the Steal" movement. It's not a wonder why the vast majority of the domestic terrorism in the US comes from the far right, as has been confirmed by DHS and confirmed here with links time and again. These are gullible, unintelligent people that lack the ability to fact check and think critically.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/politics/secretaries-of-state-personal-threats-trump-election-lies/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Liz Cheney has even suggested many of her Republican colleagues in both houses of Congress say the pro-Trump shit they say and take the blatantly Anti-America position they take out of fear for their and their family's lives at the hands of Trump's MAGA crowd if they don't.
Here are some of the ways to determine if a regime is fascist.
1. Opposition to Marxism (Notice how many Republicans call Democrats either "socialists" or "communists".
2. Opposition to parliamentary democracy (Notice how Trump Republicans try to silence anybody who speaks out against them).
3. Opposition to political and cultural liberalism (Duh).
4. Totalitarian ambitions (Duh).
5. Conservative economic programs (Republican tax cuts benefit the wealthy and business).
6. Corporatism ("Trickle-down" economics, anybody?
7. Alleged equality of social status (Republicans pay lip service to equality but try to pass laws curtailing voting rights, etc.)
8. Imperialism (OK, this one doesn't belong).
9. Military values (Trump loves military parades).
10. Volksgemeinschaft (a racially unified and hierarchically organized body in which the interests of individuals would be strictly subordinate to those of the nation. I. e. Don't think for yourself, let Trump or Fux "News", think for you.).
11. Mass mobilization (like rallies).
12. Single leader with absolute power (Gee, ya think?
13. The "new man" (The new man would be physically strong and morally "hard," admiring what was forceful and vigorous and despising everything "weak" and "soft."
14. Glorification of youth (OK, maybe this doesn't belong either).
15. Education as character building (Let's not teach history because we'd rather whitewash it and teach history as we want it to be).
16. Decadence and spirituality (Notice how many Republicans are against everything except God and guns. And abortions. And LGBTQ. And POC.)
17. Violence (Does January 6th ring a bell? Charlottesville? "Get them out of here" at Trump rallies?
18. Extreme nationalism (MAGA and America First).
19. Scapegoating (Blame immigrants and POC and BLM and, frankly, anything other than racism, homophobia, xenophobia and misogyny).
20. Populism (Unlike left-wing populism, this populism doesn't attribute workers' hardships to big business and big landowners and doesn't advocate measures such as progressive taxation, higher pay for industrial and farm workers, protection of unions, and the right to strike. In general it spares the wealth of the upper classes).
21. Revolutionary image (This doesn't belong either).
22. Antiurbanism (Shithole cities, etc.).
23. Sexism and misogyny (Duh, Texas' abortion law?
24. Acceptance of racism (Duh).
25. Identification with Christianity (Duh).
That's 25 characteristics of FASCISM, 22 of which describe the current Republican party. 22 out of 25 is 88% . A solid b+.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2619014]Liz Cheney has even suggested many of her Republican colleagues in both houses of Congress say the pro-Trump shit they say and take the blatantly Anti-America position they take out of fear for their and their family's lives at the hands of Trump's MAGA crowd if they don't.[/QUOTE]It's always a kick to come in and read all your comments.
You got leftists speaking the same way righties do about each other.
It all depends on where you get your news that shapes the way you parrot talking points.
Thanks for all the laughs guys. You're like my crazy uncles who argue over politics but are a hoot because they simply repeat what the pundits say.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2618915]It's not a wonder why the vast majority of the domestic terrorism in the US comes from the far right, as has been confirmed by DHS and confirmed here with links time and again. These are gullible, unintelligent people that lack the ability to fact check and think critically.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/politics/secretaries-of-state-personal-threats-trump-election-lies/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The USA causes most of the world's terrorism, helped in part because almost all Americans "are gullible, unintelligent people that lack the ability to fact check and think critically" and are much too fond of fast food and soft couches. You lot are a long playing record. Thankfully, China and her allies are going to end your circus.
[QUOTE=Beans5;2619065]It's always a kick to come in and read all your comments.
You got leftists speaking the same way righties do about each other.
It all depends on where you get your news that shapes the way you parrot talking points.
Thanks for all the laughs guys. You're like my crazy uncles who argue over politics but are a hoot because they simply repeat what the pundits say.[/QUOTE]Eih's comment was "Liz Cheney has even suggested many of her Republican colleagues in both houses of Congress say the pro-Trump shit they say and take the blatantly Anti-America position they take out of fear for their and their family's lives at the hands of Trump's MAGA crowd if they don't."
Google 'Liz Cheney comment on Republicans'. You'll find pages and pages of soirces like [URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/house/574024-cheney-says-a-lot-of-gop-lawmakers-have-privately-encouraged-her-fight-against[/URL] and [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/us/politics/liz-cheney-trump-republicans.html[/URL] and [URL]https://businessinsider.mx/rep-cheney-says-gop-lawmakers-who-opposed-trump-feared-for-lives-2021-5/?r=US&IR=T[/URL].
FYI, I found exactly zero (as in zip, nada etc) reporting by Fux "News" or any other rightwingnut source. So wingers have no reports on the subject while the left has a boatload. Therefore, to wingers and the sources they use, Cheney's comments didn't exist.
The other yuge difference is that us lefties usually document our assertions backed up by real journalists whereas the wingers post opinion disguised as fact and, if sourced at all, the sources are virtually always bogus.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2619156]The USA causes most of the world's terrorism, helped in part because almost all Americans "are gullible, unintelligent people that lack the ability to fact check and think critically" and are much too fond of fast food and soft couches. You lot are a long playing record. Thankfully, China and her allies are going to end your circus.[/QUOTE]Got it Pedro. A quick review of your post history shows you bragging about not being vaccinated, claiming to travel in Southern Europe where you rough up Americans, but probably have never been out of your mothers' basement in Juarez. , where you couldn't beat your way out of a wet taco wrapper. Your anger and envy is flattering, as is your rooting for the Chinese, though of course your significance, even in a hooker forum, is zero. Wink.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2619173]Eih's comment was "Liz Cheney has even suggested many of her Republican colleagues in both houses of Congress say the pro-Trump shit they say and take the blatantly Anti-America position they take out of fear for their and their family's lives at the hands of Trump's MAGA crowd if they don't."
Google 'Liz Cheney comment on Republicans'. You'll find pages and pages of soirces like [URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/house/574024-cheney-says-a-lot-of-gop-lawmakers-have-privately-encouraged-her-fight-against[/URL] and [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/us/politics/liz-cheney-trump-republicans.html[/URL] and [URL]https://businessinsider.mx/rep-cheney-says-gop-lawmakers-who-opposed-trump-feared-for-lives-2021-5/?r=US&IR=T[/URL].
FYI, I found exactly zero (as in zip, nada etc) reporting by Fux "News" or any other rightwingnut source. So wingers have no reports on the subject while the left has a boatload. Therefore, to wingers and the sources they use, Cheney's comments didn't exist.
The other yuge difference is that us lefties usually document our assertions backed up by real journalists whereas the wingers post opinion disguised as fact and, if sourced at all, the sources are virtually always bogus.[/QUOTE]LOL. Exactly.
Since "it all depends on where you get your news," nobody hold your breath waiting for Beans5 to produce news report links asserting that in the past century Great Recessions didn't begin on the watch of (R)Hoover, (R)Reagan, (R)Bush2 and (R)Trump, that three more Recessions didn't happen on (R)Eisenhower's watch, another one didn't begin on (R)Ford's watch, another one didn't begin on (R)Bush1's watch, still another one on (R)Bush2's watch and so on while the Recession that began under (D)Truman and the one under (D)Carter weren't among the briefest and least damaging Recessions of all.
And THAT is why totally unsupported False Equivalency and Bothsiderism must be called out for the "stealth" pro-Repub bullshit it is whenever possible.
It seems conservative Republicans are determined to accommodate their cult leader's apparent Final Solution in order to MAGA! "Get into the boxcars" and "Step into the showers," indeed.
You can't say Biden and the Dems didn't try to convince them otherwise. But there is only so much we can say and do about it.
[B]COVID-19 is crushing red states. Why isnt Trump turning his rallies into mass vaccination sites?[/B]
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/29/covid-19-is-crushing-red-states-why-isnt-trump-turning-his-rallies-into-mass-vaccination-sites/amp/[/URL]
[B] Red Covid.
Covids partisan pattern is growing more extreme. [/B]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/briefing/covid-red-states-vaccinations.html[/URL]
[B]COVID Cases, Deaths Notably Worse In Red States Than Blue States: Report [/B]
[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/covid-cases-deaths-notably-worse-035707646.html[/URL]
[B]A trio of conservative radio hosts died of Covid. Will their deaths change vaccine resistance?[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1278258[/URL]
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2619032]Here are some of the ways to determine if a regime is fascist.
1. Opposition to Marxism (Notice how many Republicans call Democrats either "socialists" or "communists".
2. Opposition to parliamentary democracy (Notice how Trump Republicans try to silence anybody who speaks out against them).
3. Opposition to political and cultural liberalism (Duh).
4. Totalitarian ambitions (Duh).
5. Conservative economic programs (Republican tax cuts benefit the wealthy and business).
6. Corporatism ("Trickle-down" economics, anybody?
7. Alleged equality of social status (Republicans pay lip service to equality but try to pass laws curtailing voting rights, etc.)
8. Imperialism (OK, this one doesn't belong)..[/QUOTE]Not sure what you are talking about because none of it makes sense.
Wanting Secure borders.
Wanting Safe cities.
Wanting Parents involved in their child's education.
Wanting a competent president.
Wanting all lives to matter.
If this is fascism to you then you are a socialist or communist. Simple as that.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2619241]It seems conservative Republicans are determined to accommodate their cult leader's apparent Final Solution in order to MAGA! "Get into the boxcars" and "Step into the showers," indeed.
You can't say Biden and the Dems didn't try to convince them otherwise. But there is only so much we can say and do about it.
[B]COVID-19 is crushing red states. Why isnt Trump turning his rallies into mass vaccination sites?[/B]
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/29/covid-19-is-crushing-red-states-why-isnt-trump-turning-his-rallies-into-mass-vaccination-sites/amp/[/URL]
[B] Red Covid.
Covids partisan pattern is growing more extreme. [/B].[/QUOTE]Turning red states into blue states through attrition.
Works for me!
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2619242]Not sure what you are talking about because none of it makes sense.
Wanting Secure borders.
Wanting Safe cities.
Wanting Parents involved in their child's education.
Wanting a competent president.
Wanting all lives to matter.
If this is fascism to you then you are a socialist or communist. Simple as that.[/QUOTE]Of course none of this makes sense [B]To you[/B].
The only thing that makes sense to RepubliKKKans is:
Wanting to kill all immigrants.
Wanting to kill all POC.
Wanting education to teach things the way Republicans want them to be.
Wanting a dictator.
Wanting only white lives to matter.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2618999]Both of them have allowed the border open for 1,700,000 illegals since they have been in office.[/QUOTE]Would I be out of line if I asked about your source for this number please?
See, Biden hasn't changed any Trump's immigration policies to the dismay, by the way, of pro-immigration advocates. Title 42 is still intact. Every month the authorities detain hundreds of thousands of undocumented migrants.
So what are you preaching exactly? "Allowed the border open" -- what does it even mean? How do they allow that? What's the mode for allowing that? I know, you guys hate specifics, but maybe try this time?