Handled elsewhere reasonably easily
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1432372]Interesting question-I checked the website and no mention of it, but obviously not allowed. While it could cause a number of obvious situations, in some way, who cares. The numbers involved would naturally never be large, so competitive threats not really an issue. Girls say no all the time, so really who would notice. It would be messy if as mongers, you never knew who was working and who was just visiting. The more interesting question is under German law, how they can restrict entry to only men? I really don't know. What you could do is this. Ring the main number and ask if a friend could just try it for a night. You might need to say she was considering a career, you'll have to wing it. Might be better to do it in person actually at reception during a quiet moment.
The risk is, your friend might be tempted by the dark side (all those hunky men, all those Euros) and you would have to live with that.[/QUOTE]The visiting couple scenario is handled relatively easily in several clubs in Europe even in staid old Switzerland. The rules are clear and must be adhered to.
A girl can be accompanied and she pays the same entry fee as her male friend. She must remain with her male friend more or less all the time. Under no circumstances is she allowed to enter a room for money and always with her friend. She pays the same Zimmer fee as her friend to the girls working and who they invite to the room. She is not allowed to enter a room with another guest other than her friend unless there is a swinging element within the club as a usual activity. In clubs that provide robes, the visiting girl is given a different color robe than other guests to clearly differentiate her status to all. It works.
Should always call ahead to confirm specifically if this is or is not an option to avoid disappointment.
E.
Artemis. Potential newbie
i wanted to thank those who commented on my message. i am not a regular to berlin so probably will not be a regular to this forum but i wanted to thank everyone for their advice including angus`. also to dapoopa. great to hear the trials and tribulations, and exploits of a recent newbie. hopefully if i make it to artemis i will provide an update of the experience. and kimino, if you are there on thursday (and if i am, i need to blow out the conference i was meant to be at- which is a high possibility) maybe we will meet although i will be off by 6pm (but would start when they open) as i would need to catch my flight but also not sure how to recognise one other without seeming gay checking out the guys! anyway, i am assuming that you more aficionados to the circuit will turn up later when there are more and better girls.
at the moment i am only down for a 2 day trip to berlin. i am still thinking about artemis on both the wednesday and the thursday. but heed the comments from those with more experience about volume of girls on a wednesday. however, i am not decided and also thinking of instead trying royal on the wednesday. my rational being that. reading the berlin forum (and apologies for posting this here but it is part of the overall artemis v bordello experience. i will copy relevant text to the berlin forum so i do not offend anyone). royal offers a good number of german girls, potentially (as some suggest) fresh to the scene, and girl friend type looks (i am into that rather than glamour girl. ideally a petite and busty naturally pretty blonde). i have discounted kd as commenters suggest that there are not that many girls present unless you call ahead. although offering a good service. therefore as i would like to sample the local cuisine of german girls, royal seems the best bet. do others agree? (i will copy and paste this into the berlin thread!) hopefully things will work out and there will be a number of girls available on the wednesday early afternoon to choose from, as their website is awful. i could then decide if i like any of them for a further visit by them to my hotel. i am too lazy at my age and prefer the girl to come to me at the late end of the night. if no one from royal tickles my fancy for an evening meet, then will try a couple of girls from escort-desire. de (angelinas. good looking milf and probably a young hottie. possibly probably pia, vivien or kim).
now artemis. this is something to try. even paying the entrance fee to see a group of girls naked / semi naked is reasonably good value for money, in my opinion. that alone, once i get my eyes back in their socket and my tongue back in my mouth, may drive you crazy. if i decide against royal and go for artemis, particular an early afternoon start, suggestions is that it is slower and therefore probably fewer "hotties" i think as has been mentioned. those are the downsides. the potential upsides, it may be a better starting point for a newbie and also i have read that there are the occasional hottie doing the morning session. however, i would like to thanks those who have contributed to this forum and i think what i take away from it (and i do have a few questions still) are:
1) take it as it comes (no pun intended) ie do not have too many fixed expectations and that remember that these girls are all humans after all. doing a in my opinion a difficult job.
2) it is much a hit and miss at artemis but with the added advantage at least you see externally what you get. whether that translates into a more gfe experience depends on the girl and the chemistry. dapoopa seemed fortunate to meet someone he liked. to me if i go, hopefully, i focus on variety but a good connection may be harder to break away from.
3) general position is try and avoid pushy girls who are mono-syllabic or pretty close to that ie room, fuck or even fuck room. look to see of there is some connection. and for me avoid a girl that just grabs you dick. be weary of girls that ask if you are new to the scene. but in my mind not totally discount them as this seems as obvious entre line for someone. although these principles wishful thinking sometimes. as we all know. we are driven by a different brain between our legs.
4) good looking girls probably don't have to do too much as in nature bees will gravitate around the flower and the question is for guy to have courage.not easy i know when you have a gaggle of pretty girls. presumably they are not primarily there just for the pleasant company so interrupting them is what they will expect so we just need the guts. easier said than done.
questions i still have. and apologies as i know i have read it somewhere on the thread.
a) where is the best place to sit to watch the girls without getting too much attention?
b) are the zimmer / room dark or enough light to see the girls? do you have control over the light? i would rather see who i am enjoying.
c) i assume that you can discuss with the girl exactly what services she offers before you go to a room. is that right and are they very open about this ie they pretty much expect it?
d) presumably this is dependent on the girl but are you able to touch the girls and the moment ie no groping but stroking of legs, butt, etc before you go to a room.
e) do many girls offer fingering? presumably dependent on the girl.
f) some guys have said bring a book. is that a good option for a newbie? i don't speak any german so not sure what will distract me (what am i saying!)
thanks for all your help.
Wednesday at Artemis, how to fail a plan right from the beginning
Happy to have met Bearsk for the first time and to meet up once again with Rocketboy and Buck Rogers, great chatting!
Sunny warm day in Berlin, so I reached the place around 2pm. The plan was "only new girls", meaning girls I never sessioned with before.
The place was very calm in the early afternoon, but, as usual, more than enough girls to choose from. Anyways.
Fatima, slovack, long black hair, tall, nice slim body, very petite tits but looking good on her body. She said we already went together long time ago, but can't confirm. She has been reported continuously, always positively. I can only confirm. Recommended (if you like her look).30min + cim (high quality)
Great sun outside by the pool, really relaxing. I love the outside area.
So my "new girls" plan failed immediately, saw Marketta coming in the door and decided to pick her. Czec, blonde curly hair, kind of small, also reported ad nauseam by others. Been with her a few times, long time ago. 30 min + cim. Ok session, but nothing more than that.
Ruby (new girl for me) she says she has been here for a year but I only remember seeing her for 6 months at the max. Tall, blonde mid length hair, killer body, nice augmented boobs, no tattoos or piercing. She usually stands just after the glass door in the main area. I've been looking this girl a lot, never making up my mind to try her. In the room she was awesome. Sweet, deep kissing, very relaxed. We played around with the very scarce room furniture. Great fun. Stayed with her 90 min. Highly recommended, will repeat. Just couldn't come.
Around 2am, was chatting around with Buck Rogers, saying it was probably time to go, but thought closing the evening with a great favorite might be a good idea. Picked Laura and went up. With some intelligence she managed to grab the key to a very large room, and we had an extremely good 1hr session.
Place never crowded, decent food. New beds in the wellness area, they look very comfortable.
Kimino
Approaching girls at Artemis
[quote=dapoopa;1433145].didn't want to be randomly approached again, but also felt intimidated by the thought of walking straight up to one of the girls sitting in a row at the bar and trying to strike up a conversation. it's not so easy when they are all sitting in a row together.[/quote]dapoopa brought up a good point. i also felt the same way when approaching the girls at artemis. i have a few questions for you seasoned expert.
1. how do you normally approach them when they all sit in a row and you only interest in that one specific girl? i can walk to them and ask questions but then i don't want (or like) the others to hear my conversation or the interview questions (when i'm not really interested in the other girls).
2. lets say you asked them if they do certain things you are expecting and they said they won't (i. e. no dfk, daty, etc) how do you avoid the awkwardness afterward (when you turn her down and walk away) where the girls next to her are all watching, listening, and staring? i think this is why i like palace so much since the girls are always roaming around and i can always catch them at certain spot to strike up a one-on-one conversation without others listening to it.