Nairobi

[QUOTE=Lulle;3049350]Oh, haha. She lived closer, got her own cab.

If you're thinking a potential threesome, they were non-pro (or so I believe). I think my chances were much higher with just one of them.[/QUOTE]You said the waitress told you to "be careful. " What did he mean?

[QUOTE=Lulle;3049218]Let me share my story while still on a high from last night, my second in Nairobi.

I'm pushing 55 (though fit and looking a little younger). I'm a bit shy about "day game" and "night game. ".

Anyway, I'm sipping a juice on a mall rooftop. I suddenly see the for me perfect woman ("Anne") walk in my direction: slender, beautiful face, dressed cute, no crazy hair, mid-to-late twenties, no-kids body. I look at her, but we don't get eye contact. I suspect she senses me with her peripheral vision, because she stops after passing my table, then turns and asks if she and her friend can join me at my table. I say sure. The friend Becky is also slender, with a bubble butt, great smile, dressed to go out. But Anne is the one I like, and they sense this and she sits by me. She seems slightly shy, or perhaps hesitant, but it soon flows naturally, with some light touching, leaning close.

Part of me thinks, Jeez, semi-pros looking to make 5 k, or perhaps just get me to buy their dinner. But no, after chatting for twenty minutes, Becky goes to pay their bill. I pay mine, ask the waiter if they may be trouble, and he goes, "Oh, you don't know them? Be careful!

Meanwhile Anne (who "had to shortly take the last bus") says she's really in the mood for some water pipe. I say I'll treat her if she wants to go. We figure out where to go. At the same time a poorly aged Indian hits on Becky, and gets invited to join us. At the shisha place there is a cover for some event. I pay for me and Anne, while the Indian cheaps out, leaves, and Becky pays for herself.

Inside, we get a table, shots, beer, ice Smirnoff, and the shisha. I'm hyperaware of my drink not getting drugged, and also my jacket which I took off: it had a lot of fresh ATM cash in a pocket!.[/QUOTE]I'm not so lucky, I only meet working girls when I go to luxury hotels where a normal Kenyan can't enter. Yes, I envy you. And the strange thing is that they always ask me for money. Tell me, my friend, what is your secret?

I remembered making a post on this very thread about some Ugandan con artists who's a so called secret agent that hangs out on River Road near Young Drifters around 1 am. He wanted me to hook him up with gullible mzungus for his so called gold scam. I thought he was just talking out his ass to scam me but apparently people actually do fall for this stupid shit. All I can say is that fellas Kenyans are the new Nigerians!

[URL]https://youtu.be/NzJU_DUbOZA[/URL]

[QUOTE=KingAmir;3049543]You said the waitress told you to "be careful." What did he mean?[/QUOTE]I assume he was thinking of stories of robbery and drugging, though I didn't ask him to specify.

[QUOTE=AbsoluteJoy;3049699]I'm not so lucky, I only meet working girls when I go to luxury hotels where a normal Kenyan can't enter. Yes, I envy you. And the strange thing is that they always ask me for money. Tell me, my friend, what is your secret?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for asking so frankly. I've always struggled with shyness, and as a remedy worked quite a bit on inner game and body language.

There are really two parts to your question. First, how to have non-pros approach you. I would say basic grooming, and body language when you stand, sit and interact. For body language there are plenty of videos on youtube these days. There used to be DVD programs by entrepreneurs teaching pickup.

Second, how to make them enjoy interacting with you and "building attraction" is mostly inner game (not sure outer game is as useful in Kenya). My basic mindset is, "I'm interested in you, but not needy. " This is about "being centered": not leaning forward and fawning (physically and psychologically), nor leaning back and act cool and uninterested (again body language and conversationally). I also find myself genuinely interested in who they are, not just job / name / family, but what they like, how they feel about different things, and I reflect back that I get what they feel.

When feeling flirty, my mindset is, "you're my bratty little sister that I can tease, but I love you and will protect you." It's good to mix the two mindsets.

For the perfect night I described, here are some random details:

* I focused mostly on Anne, but made sure to include Becky, made her feel good, and also paid her drinks. (As I learned later, Becky encouraged Anne to go home with me!

* Walking from rooftop to bar, we had to cross a busy street, so I took her hand (protectively to lead), then let go afterwards (not being clingy).

* At the club, I would dance with a little grinding and light touching, then pull back to my chair and sip my beer ("interested, not needy").

* We blew shisha smoke in each others faces; once I leaned in for peck on the lips, then pulled back with an impish smile and a wink.

* When it was time to go I verbally said that I'm really attracted to her, but not in a needy way, and physically centered.

* Outside it was cold: I put my jacket over her shoulders.

Finally a really good video specific to Kenya that helped me mind-prep for the perfect night: youtube.com/watch?v=mnZRPXsf-gU

Best of luck, my friend.

[QUOTE=Lulle;3049705]I assume he was thinking of stories of robbery and drugging, though I didn't ask him to specify.[/QUOTE]Something similar happen to me in Douala (the Cameroons) long ago. A girl in a disco had come to sit beside me without being invited to do so. She went on to tell me a shaggy-dog story about her being friends with "two sadistic (!!!) lesbians who did cocaine". I kept a poker face and she eventually left. Shortly afterwards one of the waiters (who knew me as a good-tipping patron) came to warn me to the tune of "beware of this girl, she is nothing but trouble". He added "we are telling you that because we value you". I didn't really need to be told to stay away from the girl in question given her bizarre story. Still I thought it paid to leave good tips in places where you hang out a lot.

[QUOTE=Lulle;3049892]Finally a really good video specific to Kenya that helped me mind-prep for the perfect night: youtube.com/watch?v=mnZRPXsf-gU ..[/QUOTE]I'm glad you had such a nice evening.

I've watched a few vids about Kenya and they all say the same thing. Kenyan women are nothing like American black women.

Kenyan women are more feminine, much nicer, and don't have attitudes. It's remarkable what a difference there is.

I bet you were just yourself that evening, and everything simply worked out for the best.

This got to be some crap, if anything the sex workers harass hard working men and have no issues digging in your pockets why you're looking. And spit on couples out on the stroll after dark in CBD.

[URL]https://youtu.be/f72Sl-M5uO8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Lulle;3049892]Thanks for asking so frankly. I've always struggled with shyness, and as a remedy worked quite a bit on inner game and body language.

There are really two parts to your question. First, how to have non-pros approach you. I would say basic grooming, and body language when you stand, sit and interact. For body language there are plenty of videos on youtube these days. There used to be DVD programs by entrepreneurs teaching pickup.

Second, how to make them enjoy interacting with you and "building attraction" is mostly inner game (not sure outer game is as useful in Kenya). My basic mindset is, "I'm interested in you, but not needy. " This is about "being centered": not leaning forward and fawning (physically and psychologically), nor leaning back and act cool and uninterested (again body language and conversationally). I also find myself genuinely interested in who they are, not just job / name / family, but what they like, how they feel about different things, and I reflect back that I get what they feel.

When feeling flirty, my mindset is, "you're my bratty little sister that I can tease, but I love you and will protect you." It's good to mix the two mindsets..[/QUOTE]I was really speechless. You are a professional! I have so much to learn from you, all of us.

I have always used another approach with the professional working girls you are talking about, maybe I have always got everything wrong but I have always believed that they were not interested in body language, small attentions and psychology at all. In my ignorance I have always believed that they wanted only and exclusively my money. But maybe I'm too ignorant. For example, when I enter the terrace of a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners (and where a cocktail costs the equivalent of 5 days of work for a Kenyan) how can I tell if I have a professional working girl or a good girl in front of me? In my naivety I tell myself that she is certainly a good girl who saved a lot to come there one evening and therefore she is certainly an honest girl. Am I right? And then how do I physically build attraction? My God I feel so pathetic because I believe that I don't care about them at all, and that it's only my money that they want. So I have always limited myself to behaving well but without thinking about this pearl of psychology that you are giving me. Surely my mistake has always been to consider these professional working girls as simple professional working girls and that's it, while instead you are opening my eyes by making me understand that they are instead professional working girls who have not studied psychology. So I have chances by following your precious advices. The video is very nice. Thank you very much.

I write this with no disrespect to Lulle. I like that you played it the way you do. But, most women I know here want one and most want more than one Wazungu boyfriends. They will want to show him off, not to show what a great guy he is but to show off that she has a Mzungu. Your girl was the hunter and she played you as much as you think you played her. You both got what you wanted now the hard part will be to try to get rid of her.

Categories: There are hard core creatures of the night then internet girlfriend frauds. There's endless variants of professional girlfriends, which your girl no doubt is one. If she has perfect hair, nails and makeup, higher end clothes, she's got at least one Mzungu out of the country and she's looking for and upgrade or just more. The beginning category are the fresh beginners who have to be found.

As I wrote earlier, I've never really met women in bars and clubs: I get a bit tongue tied. If I'm attracted to a woman in a bar, a part of my brain tells me I'm not worthy.

I went to Havana (bar and restaurant) in Westlands. Supposedly there's often a mix of working girls and nonpros. Many attractive women in their twenties arrive. I get some eye contact, but it doesn't lead to anything. Perhaps if I actually take the initiative and go up and talk to some? But, no, the aforementioned part of my brain inhibits me tonight.

A bit dejected, I figure I should check out a nearby club. I'm now willing to settle for a semi-pro for the night, which I haven't done so far in Kenya. I go to a nearby club. I sit alone, get a glass of wine, and a bunch of guys sit down next to me. Hmm. I slowly walk through the club. The other end is a bit less loud. I see an absolutely stunning petite woman, Daisy, sit alone at a table. Semi-pro alert. However, I chicken out and take a seat behind her. LOL. An older white guy approach her, and it seems they get along and he'll buy her shots.

But then he leaves, and I use a trick which is to tell myself, "fuck it!" I go up to her, smile, and ask if I can take a seat. She smiles a super cute smile and nods. We warm up pretty quickly. I stay centered, and do so-called "kino" (the kind of brief touching you do when you say "hey, listen to this" or when you lean in to hear her better, not prolonged gripping). The shot lady comes by. I ask Daisy if she wants shots. She does, and we warm up more. Soon we touch, hold hands, interlock fingers. I show her some dance steps, we sit down. I lean in for a brief kiss on the mouth, lean back. A favorite song of hers plays, and we dance more, touch more and more. I'm soon stroking her legs and arms.

Is it too easy? Does she need help with an expense? After two hours, it's time, and I ask her to come home with me. She doesn't say no, but asks for one last shot. Then we finally get a cab, and she turns out be super affectionate and snuggly in bed. In the morning we talk for hours. It all flows so easily, so comfortably.

She leaves. No money was involved.

To Slowalk's point (just below), yes, there is a range from newbie girl, to long-term mzungu hunter, to semi-pros and then hardcore pros. Both my stories, so far, are no worse than long-term mzungu hunter. I spent a lot of time with the first, and she never ever asked for money. We'll see about this one.

Again, before Kenya, this stuff never happened to me.

I haven't saw any real reports on the Kenya thread in a minute when I read upon this thread I see nothing but shit about dating in this country. Something I don't advise folks to do. By the way there's a faggot from Russia who literally fucked the game up for mongers by posting some shit up on Youtube. I landed in Nairobi during the height of his scandal.

I was on a so called East African tour, and I know I supposed of had stratched Kenya off my bucket list indefinitely however, I decided to give it another shot to see if Nairobi is worth mongering in it. The answer to that question is slowly becoming a no sticking straight to the topic about pussy; let's begin. The airport was not busy at all, it took me less than 13 minutes to get through customs. I caught a taxi to Westlands, Westlands is an area I'm not really feeling, the roads were bad, the traffic was backed up and there were guys tapping on the taxi windows asking for money. Matter of fact way too many guys was in the streets begging for money. After eating checked into my hotel around midnight I decided to hit the nightlife of Westlands, despite the fact the streets had people walking and such their normal business. Almost all the lounges, night clubs and bars was dead! A million posts ago I mentioned a strip club located in Westlands but I couldn't recalled its name. Well fellows I got the strip club name this time and it's called DollarZ Gentleman Club and it sits inside of the same building as the Boss Den. All the action inside of Dollars happens inside of the VIP room which costs 10 K and you have to pay the dancer 5 k to enter the room with you in order for her to dance for you. Otherwise she'll be out on the floor sitting next to you while you are sipping a beer. The strip club looks very nice inside and did I participate inside of the VIP? The answer to that question is a no! It was 1230 am and that strip club was completely dead! And to make matters worse the women inside of their was more like catering towards an European audience hence, they were skinny with no ass and breasts! Boss Den was dead period even around 1245 am! The staff was pretty friendly just like Dollarz but I'm not about to be the only guy inside of the strip club with a bunch of skinny ass women inside of their.

Havana Bar the same shit that sits next to the Flamming Grill Chicken restaurant was dead even at 1 am. Don't get me wrong there were people inside of that place. The females I saw working inside of their wasn't attractive at all and I'm being absolutely serious! Inside of that place looks very nice. It kinda reminds me of Club VIP which is located inside of Nairobi CBD! They have a bar downstairs and a bar upstairs, it was so slow and boring most was just busy texting on their phones instead of realizing a customer with money is in their presence. After 1 beer I got the fuck out of their, now theirs another bar that had several of Kenyans inside of it its located in the same plaza as Havana Bar, correct me if I'm not wrong it wasn't a hook up bar but just a regular bar with Kenyans working out of it. I spent an hour walking down the street trying to find somewhere to go in Westlands I kept coming up empty handed.

I do want to mention that when I asked where are the ladies at to Kenyan men most had Kenyan women whom they could call to come and fuck you! They rarely had body shots of the women and it was mostly just face pictures. I strongly recommend not using those brothers connections! When the women shows up some will have attitudes, bleached skinned or BBL's going on!

After going through this shit for 3 nights I decided to call Westlands a quits and focus on CBD only!

After a disappointing adventure in Westlands I decided to return to CBD. First on my list of club Sabrina Joy, that joint was incredibly busy with guys drinking and dancing but the women wasn't getting fucked inside of that place that much. It was just women cuddling besides drunk men. They had ladies of all shapes and sizes working inside of there and I noticed that there were plenty of new faces and I didn't recognize not one from my prior venture there. Due to the fact it was so busy, I decided to leave and hit the infamous River Rd up after dark and upon arriving to River Rd it was tons of women working the block. The police came around and started locking up the men only who was outside standing around and I left the area and came back 3 hours later only to get locked up too! The police wasn't interested in obtaining a bribe they just wanted to take guys to jail for a day or 2 to teach them a lesson about either A loitering or be trying to buy pussy! When I got to the police station they claimed to had locked up 40 men in that area in 3. 5 hours!

To be continued.

A day in the hole didn't deter me from coming back to CBD. I think that was a once a while operation that was being performed in CBD that night and to my surprise I was right. A quick trip to River Rd area of CBD the streets was bustling with women during certain times of the day. It was different from how it was in the past where ladies used to be out 24/7 in full force, now it was just certain times of the day they had peak times to be out. River Rd in general stayed died overall with women, Dhurma, Keekrock, Namaiste, and Latema always had women on those streets especially what I called CBD 5 points were River Rd, Lateam, Dhurma and Namaiste street meets. In the past women used to post in front of this hotel on the corner of Latema and River Road right in front of this paid toilet and convince store! After some small talk I discovered that the police now prohibits them from being there during school hours or should I say business hours 8 am-5 pm. If you want to see them you have to go inside of the hotel (I wouldn't recommend using that hotel for services). Overall I saw many different faces out there and most were new to me. The women bodies looked nice was they beautiful? Nah it's Kenya most women are ugly in that country with an ass. Don't be surprise that you'll find many crack heads in the cowards trying to charge premium prices for sex! Overall the service was good not that many uncharging going on like last time. I think that type of crap ran off many customers simply put out of 25 women on the street I met only 3 who did the uncharge shit. And allow me to say this almost none of them were down with camera man activity since that faggot started posting up his shit on social media. Did I feel safe on River Rd well the answer as of now was yes. Only because the police been hitting that area up hard due to knuckle heads causing problems so they come out with unpredictable patterns and mainly lock the men up and not the women. Street activities wise I had a total of 24 sessions with 14 different women. 90% of it was positive experiences and to be honest I see that area getting worse with less women being outside working and allow me to say including inside of the clubs. I made a posting about this before prostitution is slowly becoming a dying profession around the world. And by the way the average price I was paying was roughly 1000 bob and the highest price I paid was 1500 bob and that only happen once and that same woman tired to upsell me to 3500 bob for the works which was nothing more than some BS. The price offered to me that was honored was 500 bob I paid the chicks 700 bob extra for offering me that rate and sticking to it. As always stick around for part 3 when I report about the night clubs activities.