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[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2636334]For residents it may be different, but for a (future) tourist there is really no reason to pay to fly intercontinental, pay for a hotel (not even talking about the other covid stuff at the moment) then look for girls online. We have online in Europe for roughly the same prices as are being talked about in this thread and there are also places where you can have Asian and even Thai girls.
Basically the USP for Thailand is the "transparent" scene, whether that be massage shops, BJ bars, gogos or beer bars.[/QUOTE]Totally agree and can see your point. If I were a tourist that would be what I would be interested in. But for the majority of residents I know going to a loud bar and having to make small talk with a bar girl is not in the least bit appealing. In addition the Nana area really is not our favorite place to go at this point.
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[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2636334]For residents it may be different, but for a (future) tourist there is really no reason to pay to fly intercontinental, pay for a hotel (not even talking about the other covid stuff at the moment) then look for girls online. [/QUOTE]
Correct. The online scene meant for Thai guys is neither appealing nor accessible to tourists. Even for residents, it only appeals to the small group who speak / read / write Thai reasonably well.
One thing I hated about the online scene was funneling. The site has 200 girls, I pick 10, then three reply within a reasonable timeframe, two of those go silent after I ask for an address. In my experience, being a Farang is already a filter, plenty of girls will refuse / not reply, or try to charge extra. Admittedly, I tried the Thai online scene pre-Covid, maybe it's a bit better now, with them being more desperate for business.
Maybe the the LINE groups that GoatScrot mentions are good, but I've been in one of those (courtesy of a FanFinFin girl) and deleted it after a week. Too much noise, can't browse/search, just an endless feed of posts, often repetitive. Presumably it's fun for some people, but not for me.
Technically, a sufficiently motivated and patient Farang could score in Thai-oriented online scene only using English, but there are obstacles at each step.
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This was the best advice on here about the online Sidelines game. I guess some bros are better then others at playing it. Explains why some have success and some don't. In Bangkok, I've seen 12 sideliners, 3 bar girls, and only 2 outside Thermae girls. And I go hunting every night. I can say now, if you have a problem paying up front, you will have issues. Good luck bros.
"The sidelines info and websites have been a fucking gold mine! There are really a shit load of former Thermae girls, Soapie girls, and Go Go Bar girls all on those sites. There is a methodology and system, that I use to select my girls along with my sense of pattern recognition and being able to remember faces from all my mongering experiences. Those sideline sites are more than just bookings, it's an entire community that is coed, with customers, chat rooms, girls, and admins. So that means customers who don't play by the rules, getting weeded out really quickly on those sidelines websites. You make a booking via LINE (and trust me this Admins keep track of who is who on LINE and the girls they book). You meet the girl, do the deed, you can review her, and she will make notes on you as well. All this shared in the coed community. With the girls I've booked, the Admins give me points for my reviews (with proof and pics of the girls), which lead me to bookings with better girls and no bait and switches. Best part is that they refer me to other Go Go bar, Soapies, or Thermae girls that they are friends with on the sites, who are the real deal versus the bait and switches. This is a must because those sites are full of fake pics, liars, bullshit reviews, and scams. But if you have a good reputation on how you play the game, you keep getting more points, better referrals, and closely matched girls. Keep in mind at any single outcall hotel, here will be more than just that one girl you booked. There are more than one girl that somewhat fits the fake profile and description. If you have poor reputation or a history of accepting whatever opens the door or have been marked because poor behavior or poor hygiene (from your LINE info history and bookings), they will switch you because you are of little value. No wonder there have been so many reports of bad experiences. The game wasn't played correctly and by the rules. Go read the rules and abide by them. These girls and Admins track and share their notes on customers."
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[QUOTE=ChimpoChinn;2636390]Face to face is just more Fun.
Not all of us are looking for Hot 1,500 baht girls. Not many around. We aren't looking to Lowball girls.
I found a $6.99 Big Mc Meal last night. Went exploring downtown Houston last night. Past Minute Ballpark. Not the Hood but kind of in that neighborhood genre.
Is absolute price everything to me-NO. Stop with the price shaming. You people are Lunatics. Expecting quality at Bargain Basement pricing.
Beware the Asians are locked and loaded. Prices are going thru the Roof.[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
Biggie Mac Meal in Thailand is 159 baht in Bangkok when you order face to face at McDonalds. If you order to pick up and still visit the same store to sit and eat it there, you get 20% off 159 baht with a food app. New price is now 127 baht. If you get it delivered to a Soi 7 beer bar, you can sit, eat, and people watch with girls or listen to live band. Use food app delivery and code EAT1212 and now you get 50% off. So about 80 baht for that same Biggie Mac Meal.
First question is will your stomach feel any less satisfied by not paying 159 baht for the same Big Mac Meal?
Second question is where did all the Thermae, Thaniya, Gogo Bars, Soapy Girls go to since it's all closed? Very weird that sidelines sites has seen big influx since pre-COVID and lockdowns. I am not smart enough to figure that one out. Plus Thailand doesn't have a cultural mentality to give dual pricing to foreigners. No way Josie. When in Rome do what the Romanians do.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2636624]Correct. The online scene meant for Thai guys is neither appealing nor accessible to tourists. Even for residents, it only appeals to the small group who speak / read / write Thai reasonably well.
One thing I hated about the online scene was funneling. The site has 200 girls, I pick 10, then three reply within a reasonable timeframe, two of those go silent after I ask for an address. In my experience, being a Farang is already a filter, plenty of girls will refuse / not reply, or try to charge extra. Admittedly, I tried the Thai online scene pre-Covid, maybe it's a bit better now, with them being more desperate for business.
Maybe the the LINE groups that GoatScrot mentions are good, but I've been in one of those (courtesy of a FanFinFin girl) and deleted it after a week. Too much noise, can't browse/search, just an endless feed of posts, often repetitive. Presumably it's fun for some people, but not for me.
Technically, a sufficiently motivated and patient Farang could score in Thai-oriented online scene only using English, but there are obstacles at each step.[/QUOTE]I'd agree that speaking some Thai is pretty essential, however reading is not needed as Google will do the translating for you. The agents all read and write English and I have never had any be the least bit unpleasant. And yes, there are gals that don't go with farangs, but the vast majority do, and agents will be upfront with you about it. I've had two gals who don't have agents not reply to my initial contact, but only two, and that is out of many contacts I have made. I would say the scene is way different than it was pre-covid. But yes, it is not for the tourist but non-Thais are certainly welcome if they play by the rules.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2636327]I've been doing the online thing exclusively since early in the year. My batting average is about the same as it was in the oilies but it constantly improves. The web sites are the least important resource when it comes to the online scene. Retouched photos just like the ones from the oilie's sites. No different. And Twitter, Locanto, CL, TF are just a waste of time in my opinion. Although some of the local sideline sites are good for a bit of information and to get a feel for a particular "camp. " The telegram and Line groups are far more revealing and informative. I probably spend about an hour a day on them. Fun? It's an amazing amount of fun looking at pics, most nude and occasional action photos, the local punters take of these gals and reading their reviews. After a while you learn to read between the lines as most reviews are on the surface positive, but upon closer perusal you begin to get a feel of what they really think. You'll get an excellent feel of the gals "vibe. " I find it very fun. Who doesn't like looking at pics of naked gals that you can go bang at a moment's notice? Plus you can do you research anywhere. In the last two weeks I have had two gals that were as PSE as any Tulip, Mango, or SW gal rolled up into a package that you would expect to find in a high end Macau sauna. Honestly, I haven't enjoyed P4P in BKK like this in years. And there are so many gals to choose from. And I'm a guy who swore he would never get into the online scene, but I'm a convert. Might venture to some of the higher end oilies at some point, but don't think I'll be in the PSE shops again. Just too rough looking.[/QUOTE]So which telegram and Line groups would you recommend?
I have been looking at fiwfans and I got some good advice from Monkeypaw about how best to tackle that site, but I'm curious to look at the telegram and Line groups.
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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2637015]So which telegram and Line groups would you recommend?
I have been looking at fiwfans and I got some good advice from Monkeypaw about how best to tackle that site, but I'm curious to look at the telegram and Line groups.[/QUOTE]Links to the telegram groups are on the agent pages in Fiwfans.
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Interpretation
Reading Fiwfans and see multiple references "not accept size 56".
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2636761]Biggie Mac Meal in Thailand is 159 baht in Bangkok when you order face to face at McDonalds. If you order to pick up and still visit the same store to sit and eat it there, you get 20% off 159 baht with a food app. New price is now 127 baht. If you get it delivered to a Soi 7 beer bar, you can sit, eat, and people watch with girls or listen to live band. Use food app delivery and code EAT1212 and now you get 50% off. So about 80 baht for that same Biggie Mac Meal.
First question is will your stomach feel any less satisfied by not paying 159 baht for the same Big Mac Meal?[/QUOTE]Someone certainly has mastered the proper way to order food in Thailand.
Can you price out the cheapest margarita pizza for me?
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Yes indeed
[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2635419]Now this is some great intel. Thanks for this.
You know if Lolitas is open or not? That is the place where I have gotten volcanic inducing BBBJs.[/QUOTE]I second that opinion. Great intel, well written, and so easy to read. A big thanks to the original author (603).
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2637178]Someone certainly has mastered the proper way to order food in Thailand.
Can you price out the cheapest margarita pizza for me?[/QUOTE]Do you not tip Somchai the Delivery Boy? At least 20 Baht.
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I am thinking to visit Bangkok for the first time and I try googling this, but I find many different replies, and most of them are also some old articles and posts.
Usually in Europe I am interested into 30 min or 60 min. Is this short and long time?
And I wonder what would be price for entire evening / night or hiring them for entire day.
I know it is hard to tell and every girl can have different price, but just for example.
What would be prices for a good-looking 18-24 years old girl. In comparison what I could except from same person for short, long. Something.
Do hotels and hostels allow strangers to come with you to your room or should I rather consider Airbnb?
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[QUOTE=SloPhoto1990;2637269]I am thinking to visit Bangkok for the first time and I try googling this, but I find many different replies, and most of them are also some old articles and posts.
Usually in Europe I am interested into 30 min or 60 min. Is this short and long time?
And I wonder what would be price for entire evening / night or hiring them for entire day.
I know it is hard to tell and every girl can have different price, but just for example.
What would be prices for a good-looking 18-24 years old girl. In comparison what I could except from same person for short, long. Something.
Do hotels and hostels allow strangers to come with you to your room or should I rather consider Airbnb?[/QUOTE]Every girl is different but in general GoGo Bar girls are about 3000 baht for short time which usually means one shot in about a 2 HR time frame. Some girls will do 2 shots if you negotiate ahead of time. Time long is usually till the next morning or afternoon and cost about 5000 baht for 1 shot at night and another in the morning, but as I said this is general and YMMV.
I won't answer about Airbnb's as I'm not a fan but most girls around the RLD (Nana, SC, and Patpong) will allow girls, some will have joiner fees but you can google the specific hotel as there are lists out there to see.
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[QUOTE=SloPhoto1990;2637269]I am thinking to visit Bangkok for the first time and I try googling this, but I find many different replies, and most of them are also some old articles and posts.
Usually in Europe I am interested into 30 min or 60 min. Is this short and long time?
And I wonder what would be price for entire evening / night or hiring them for entire day.
I know it is hard to tell and every girl can have different price, but just for example.
What would be prices for a good-looking 18-24 years old girl. In comparison what I could except from same person for short, long. Something.
Do hotels and hostels allow strangers to come with you to your room or should I rather consider Airbnb?[/QUOTE]Non-registered hotel visitors in Thailand are called "joiners" and most hotels have a policy regarding joiners. Generally they are not frowned upon, but best to do your research.
As for pricing here are a couple of examples where it is clearly stated:
Smooci is an outcall escort website: [URL]Smooci.com[/URL].
Analisa is an incall massage shop: [URL]Analisamassage.com[/URL].
SL.
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[QUOTE=SloPhoto1990;2637269]Do hotels and hostels allow strangers to come with you to your room or should I rather consider Airbnb?[/QUOTE]Just a reminder to guys that some hotels will not allow girls under 19. AirBNB is illegal in Thailand.
Many girls won't do entire days. They have to take care of their kid when their Thai BF works during the day. If your offer is high enough then she may go entire days cause she'll pay someone to babysit her kid.