[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2776422] Like the chicks being paid to go out to Emirates and get shit on and fuck camels.[/QUOTE]Wait what! Chicks do what now?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2776422] Like the chicks being paid to go out to Emirates and get shit on and fuck camels.[/QUOTE]Wait what! Chicks do what now?
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2776345]First of all he doesn't fight in person as he lacks the balls. He's plenty meek. But in another respect he's just like he is here, can't shut up to save his life. Face to face 95% of the talking will be done by him. You won't get in a word edgewise. And again this talk about being an "over achiever" at anything is your comedy central to the max. How can someone who late in life can fit all their worldly belongings in two suitcases be considered an achiever in any respect?? It's an oxymoron. Further he doesn't walk but he droops a long down the road in this hilarious symmetry. It's like out of a Looney Tunes cartoon. But yea he keeps tapping out here in Stupid Shit but keeps coming back as he's addicted. His mouth online is all he has left.[/QUOTE]Of course 95% of the talking was done by me. It was either that or listen to you repeat yourself every 2 minutes talking about Jim Morrison. He sang. He had a few hits. He died. He remains dead. Not much there to talk about.
Surely you understand the difference between past and present tense. Or is that something you've forgotten? My situation 5 years ago was different than my situation today. It's not difficult to understand. At one point in your life you were drooling and shitting in your diaper, but now. Okay that one hasn't changed much. However, almost everyone has ups and downs in life. You either get back on your feet and go on, or you become a spiteful little man with nothing to contribute.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776144]Paulie, I do not know JJBee in life like you do so it is easier for you to judge. I thought about not responding to him at all because he was itching for a fight. Quite frankly, the latest exchange was not just filled with vitriol but bordered on the insane. In fact, what he wrote was so crazy it could be made into a comedy routine.
But yeah, you are right. There was a line in JJBee's diatribe that did not fit. "I put up a pic of mine and abiding by your requirements, I've been exclusive to her. " If you recall, requirements was his phrase, and he claimed to have had a GF. I told him he had a sugar baby not a GF.
With sugar babies, there is a notion that if you give a monthly stipend versus paying by the meet, you skirt prostitution laws and do not make the woman feel like much of a hooker. The first time I did that I had a woman get her monthly stipend and then spend every second we were together trying to get more. That was the end of any monthly stipends forever.
Still, you absolutely do not have to do that in Colombia where prostitution is legal / tolerated, so of course, JJBee did just that. I am sure this girl played him and played him well. And it was funny reading this:
You have to wonder how much these women got or hoped to get peddling such bullshit.
In the end, the "overachieving truck driver" was trying to compete with me, and he is dreaming. For the most part, the women who grew up in the slums are not relationship material, and he seems not to get that. He also seems to not want anyone to date better than him. When shit for brains says you cannot date the elite of Colombia, what that means is he cannot date the elite given what he has done with his life.[/QUOTE]Where did you go Elvis? Running away and hiding under Paulie's skirt? Again? It's like you're stuck on the merry-go-round. You take a swing at me, I respond and then you spin around in circles for a few months before deciding to swing again.
Why not answer the questions? Or stick with one story? You paid a monthly support to a Venezuelan, moved her and her family to Peru and continued to pay even after she dumped you. At one point during the pandemic you claimed to be paying monthly support to 4 women at the same time. You claimed that the woman you had totally devoted yourself to in Cartagena insisted on $500 month just to see you. Then you claimed to have found your woman to replace the Venezuelan in Mexico City. You've written extensively about all the different sugar babies, along with the value of paying by the month, but now say you've only had 1. Shit, you even wrote that by paying to support a woman it allowed her to develop real feelings for you. Your story bounces around like a grasshopper in a meth lab.
Pick a story and stick with it.
I'm still waiting on an explanation about men being "worthy" of women. I hate the term, but that's the most "simp" thing I've ever seen. That takes begging for pussy to a whole new level. That's a fucking gimp suit all summed up in one sentence.
Then you flip around and say a woman "has to earn monogamy. " Sorry, but if you've already declared that you have to be worthy of the woman, monogamy isn't the issue. You've already gift wrapped your balls and handed them over.
Who put down your woman? I thought you had a harem? And I also thought you had committed to one woman, but then you said you committed to a different woman, except now you're saying you haven't committed to any women. You're upset because 2 or 3 years ago I pointed out that your "beauty queen" appeared to have been in the type of beauty contests you can find anywhere? Or are you pissed because I reminded you that you said your perfect 10 told you how much you had to give her every month?
Personally it doesn't matter whether you consider the girl I called "girlfriend" a sugar baby or anything else. Whatever works for you. One thing though, I've never given her a monthly stipend. Certainly she's never told me how much I was required to pay to have access to her. Do I spend money on her? Absolutely. It's my money.
Did she grow up in a slum? No. Solid estrato 4 neighborhood in Envigado. Not that it matters. However, it does clearly illustrate what I said; you have no clue who the Colombian elite are.
The elite aren't selling dates on Seeking.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2776420]Damn, speaking like a true boss. I must admit it took for me to hit my mid 30's to finally understand this and feel the same way now. Better 30's than 60's. It has to be earned, Absolutely.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and to clarify that Anthony, it means making me feel good in every phase of my life if I am paying the bills. Yes, sexually, it means satisfying me however it means making me feel better in every aspect of my life. That means enhancing relationships with acquaintances, friends, and family. It means when I come home that I want to go in the house versus standing outside of it. It means when I am done talking to you I am smiling happy that I called you. It means being open to having fun when I need to have fun. And for the most part, home will be a sanctuary from stress and not a place with constant drama. They actually had articles in the 50's for women about how to care for their man. Now it is women deserve everything.
You would think that I would after all these years be able to pick out a guy who had the above situation, and I cannot. Chris Rock made a joke about this and said every married man here gets the same lousy ass blowjob. It is three licks and the woman says, "Is it hard yet? Put it in. I got laundry to do. " Yes, it is funny because it is true, but his solution was worse. If your job in the band is to play the tambourine, you just smile, be happy, and play the shit out of it. I think your generation is seeing that if you are paying for the whole band, then fuck just playing the tambourine.
My response and yours Anthony is then I will not form a band but just pay for one myself where I can be the star, and it is a lot cheaper and more satisfying. And that is what I meant by thinking no one would ever meet my criteria. I thought no one woman could best the concept of a harem because in my harem when a woman does nor perform, and they almost always do not perform over time, I just replace her, and usually it is almost always an upgrade at least for a while. If you do find a woman who can best a harem, then lock her up because even in Colombia, they are not easy to find.
JJbee AKA professor shit for brains was flat out lying when he said single moms cannot be part of the elite, and the reason he said that is he cannot date the elite. What woman is going to commit herself to an in debt, unhealthy, 60 year old truck driver? They have no future with him and if he had any brains, he would not even think about long term with any woman.
But I am glad he brought it up because I talked to my woman about this single mom issue in Colombia, and she told me single motherhood is very, very common in Colombia, so I googled the number and 84% of the kids in Colombia are born out of wedlock. Can you believe that? 84 fucking percent! That sucks for the women, and it says horrible things about Colombian men, but it is great for us.
So my gal is pregnant at 19, has her kid at 20, and she has had help from her family. The baby daddy is scum but his parents actually helped out. Still, most of the job of being a parent was on her, and she has no pie in the sky idea about being a mother and having a family and what the man's job is. If he is a nice guy and provider, she is going to appreciate that because it is better than what she had, and her daughter is old enough now to appreciate it too.
Thing is how many women are there out there who look like her, really appreciate a man, and how do you find them? I am sure there are more, and I do not know where you find them, but I guarantee you that it is not going to be in the slums where women have no concept of a long term relationship. And if you cannot find a woman like mine, and it is not easy to find one, then by all means, stick with your harem.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2776429]Wait what! Chicks do what now?[/QUOTE]They eat shit, according to some reports and provocations. Well, google "Dubai porta potty" and start your adventure from there. I haven't looked much into the topic but it made into the general news in my country couple years ago when several high profile IG models have been exposed agreeing to do it. So think twice before DFKing IG model LOL.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2776346]I never said age was the determining factor, but definitely an important one. Just a couple of days ago I saw a smoking hot 10/10 girl in Provenza, I could not believe my eyes, she was that hot. Her male companion was looking great too, probably in his late 30's, if I was gay I would rate him 10/10. They were like barbie and ken, literally. I often see the same in Miami. Good looking women accompanied by good looking men, and the age gap is probably 10-15 years tops, which is much more natural than, say, a 40 yr gap. [/QUOTE]It is not as important as you think. You don't know the people you see so you come to the conclusion based on what you see. In the social circle that I know, a girl that graduated from a top law school making 200 K plus after graduation is going to match with someone similar or above her social and economic status first, then she may pick based on look. It's just not common for a hot girl to pick someone far below her social status and making far less money because she does not have too. This pretty much apply across the board from what I have seen. Look rarely comes first. This is not even P4P.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2776346]Your comparison with George Clooney is not accurate, come on, he has been a sex idol for years, and ages really well, besides being a celebrity and multi-millionaire. The majority of the guys of his age don't even come close.
[/QUOTE]It is valid because one comparison is against himself, young vs old. I don't really have an answer but I don't think you have the right answer either. And that sort of proves my point.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2776346]
I never said I had an advantage over Elvis or RR, simply because there are other factors to consider, besides the age. And I doubt Elvis is dressed better than me (what made you think otherwise?
[/QUOTE]Now you qualify it and that proves my point.
I think he does for the purpose he wants to achieve, but not the way you think. He is not wearing skinny jeans for sure.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2776346]
... You just haven't found your perfect 10 yet.
[/QUOTE]That is the flaw in your logic. I already know sex with 9 is not always better than with 8. The sex with 8 is not always better than with 7. For that reason, I don't need to have sex with 10 to find out.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2776346]
I did not get your point about Gabacho. He can get BBFS because it is cheap to fuck a centro hoe? And the 500 mil girl won't do it? Thats nonsense.[/QUOTE]I am talking about chemistry. It's only nonsense because it is cheap. If this is a seeking 500 mil girl, will you say the same thing?
[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2776561]They eat shit, according to some reports and provocations. Well, google "Dubai porta potty" and start your adventure from there. I haven't looked much into the topic but it made into the general news in my country couple years ago when several high profile IG models have been exposed agreeing to do it. So think twice before DFKing IG model LOL.[/QUOTE]I was doing an informal worldwide survey of prostitution many years ago and that practice did pop up in the middle east.
[URL]https://youtu.be/Iy1UmhfsGr0[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2776422]Definitely nonsense. Your mind kind of leads you to believe that the cheaper chick will do anything, but it is actually the more expensive chick that will do anything and have all the diseases. If a mf is paying all of that money then it is kind of expected the chick will have to do more like go raw.
Like the chicks being paid to go out to Emirates and get shit on and fuck camels. I don't think a downtown chick would be willing to do that. They would be like that is disgusting and walk off. But the 500,000 peso chick has $$ in her eyes and is not going to easily walk away from that much dosh just because someone wants to put a little shit on her stomach that will quickly clean up with soap and water and bleach or whatever.[/QUOTE]Lmfao, and how would you know that.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2776551]
I'm still waiting on an explanation about men being "worthy" of women. I hate the term, but that's the most "simp" thing I've ever seen. That takes begging for pussy to a whole new level. That's a fucking gimp suit all summed up in one sentence.[/QUOTE]I am not going round and round with you. Clearly, you were dumped or disillusioned with a woman and want a fight.
Worthy is what the man thinks of himself not what women think of him. The man has to think he is worthy of a 9 or 10.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2776551]Did she grow up in a slum? No. Solid estrato 4 neighborhood in Envigado. Not that it matters. However, it does clearly illustrate what I said; you have no clue who the Colombian elite are. The elite aren't selling dates on Seeking.[/QUOTE]Because you did not have a 9 or 10 you thought using numbers to judge was childish, but she is estrato 4? I told Miami Boy to quit arguing with you about 9's and 10's because losers like you do not like that system because you do not have 9's and 10's, but you are happy to use a woman's numbers when you think they make you look good.
And now Mr. 60 year old truck driver you are lecturing me on seeking, all the women on there, and all the elites in Colombia? And you know for a fact based on that "knowledge", my girl is not elite and somehow you know her better than me?
Anyone who tried to put down my woman goes in the crazy pile, and on all the points above, you are completely delusional.
I do not advise competing with what I have. But if you do, the next time you want to compare GFs, maybe you should actually have one.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776839]Worthy is what the man thinks of himself not what women think of him. The man has to think he is worthy of a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]Using your own childish standard. What makes you worthy of a 9 or 10? Is it the education that you never had? Is it the super-fit body that you let atrophy years / decades ago?
I know, I know. It's the intellectual acuity that you demonstrate when you share your expert opinion on CoVid and Investments and Politics and Colombian women. Even though everything you know or say comes from some video clip on the internet.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776839]And now Mr. 60 year old truck driver you are lecturing me on seeking, all the women on there, and all the elites in Colombia? And you know for a fact based on that "knowledge", my girl is not elite and somehow you know her better than me?[/QUOTE]You have to acknowledge that JjBee62 makes a very good point. How is it that you found your elite Colombiana on Seeking? Elite Colombianas don't post on Seeking for fear that their father or uncle or family friend would see their advertisement. Elite Colombianas have an expense account from the family or a monthly allowance which is sufficient that they don't need to find some fat slob of a gringo with a big mouth and a small brain to spread their legs to pay the rent.
Elite Colombianas don't have many children out of wedlock (it happens but it is uncommon, unlike the poorer classes). They take a trip to Mexico and come back "unencumbered".
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776839]Anyone who tried to put down my woman goes in the crazy pile, and on all the points above, you are completely delusional.
I do not advise competing with what I have. But if you do, the next time you want to compare GFs, maybe you should actually have one.[/QUOTE]We are all happy that you are getting some. Obviously she is madly in love with you. Or should I say madly in love with the support you give her and her child. But the whole idea that you and only you can find a pretty Colombiana is patently absurd. You didn't discover water in the middle of the ocean. Or did you??
[QUOTE=Villainy;2777099]What makes you worthy of a 9 or 10?[/QUOTE]Well, one reason is knowing guys like you and JJBee are full of shit. Do people in JJBee's butt crew wear the same T-shirts when they go out?
[QUOTE=Villainy;2777099]Elite Colombianas don't post on Seeking for fear that their father or uncle or family friend would see their advertisement. Elite Colombianas have an expense account from the family or a monthly allowance which is sufficient that they don't need to find some fat slob of a gringo with a big mouth and a small brain to spread their legs to pay the rent.
Elite Colombianas don't have many children out of wedlock (it happens but it is uncommon, unlike the poorer classes). They take a trip to Mexico and come back "unencumbered".[/QUOTE]Yes, we know you and JJBee want that to be true except I and other guys know for a fact that elites are on seeking and have been out with them. You and JJbee are fucking delusional in thinking you know everything about every woman on there.
And the delusion changed. Gee, that is a shocker. Now the elite women in Colombia have some babies out of wedlock (they had none before), and they go to some out of special out of wedlock hospital in Mexico? Of course, you have a source to show the location of this special hospital right V?
[QUOTE=Villainy;2777099]But the whole idea that you and only you can find a pretty Colombiana is patently absurd.[/QUOTE]And this is why you posted what you did. This is the second time V you have written a post being threatened by the woman I have dated. You know, Elvis, I have dated hot women too, but you just outted yourself.
I never said guys here could not date the elite. You just agreed with JJBee that the guys here cannot date elite women and why would you two say that? Because you two cannot. He does not have the status and you do not have the balls.
And to be clear, I have said that a guy like Miami Boy might do what I have done and you know why? Because unlike you, at least he is trying. He is doing the work, paying his dues and taking the emotional hits that come with climbing the mountain, and other guys are too.
There was a guy on the seeking forum, and he was with a woman who was smoking hot, fucked him, and did not ask for money afterwards. He wanted to know what the guys thought. I told him that in my case I learned when that happened it meant the woman actually wanted me and not my money, and it happened to me more than once. I got why he was confused. When you are in the game so long, you think that is not possible. You think women only like you for your money. Shortly after, he quit posting about his exploits which were incredible.
Of course, there is the other side of the coin which is your dumb ass leader. He dates a girl, says she "meets the criteria" for a GF which is a sure tell she is not one. I was actually helping him out telling him his girl was cute and a sugar baby, but dumb ass thought he was competing with me, knew best and got burned.
So yeah, you two cannot compete with me. All you can do is take pot shots after you fall on your collective asses. You cannot learn anything when you think you know it all already.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776839]Worthy is what the man thinks of himself not what women think of him. The man has to think he is worthy of a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]What you think of yourself does not amount to a hill of beans if there is another person involved. You do not choose yourself for them. They have to choose you for them. If what you are saying was the case, then any random chick who thinks she is worthy of you could have you, no matter you thinking she is the most hideous thing on the planet.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776555]Yeah, and to clarify that Anthony, it means making me feel good in every phase of my life if I am paying the bills.[/QUOTE]That goes without saying. If you are paying the bills then you should get what you are paying for. But it is amazing that you see this as a relationship. What you describe is a business arrangement. This is quid pro quo. If you stop paying the bills then she stops making you feel good. If she stops making you feel good then maybe you will stop paying the bills, or keep paying the bills while begging her to do things your way again; how you have been known to do.
When a buddy in Thailand was thinking about settling down with his girl he put her through the wringer. For a while he acted to be really sick and had her even literally wiping his ass. After she passed that, he acted to be out of money and she went to get a job to take care of them. Then he knew he had the right girl. Something tells me that if you run out of money, then you run out of girl. Not a relationship at all.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2776839]I am not going round and round with you. Clearly, you were dumped or disillusioned with a woman and want a fight.[/QUOTE]Sorry Elvag, but you came out swinging at me. If you don't want someone to swing back, don't come out punching.
I haven't been dumped, except within your diseased mind. I simply told a girl she was no longer my priority. It's pretty simple. I never came on here professing my undying love and devotion. I just chose to treat one girl as a girlfriend. Not forever, simply an arrangement for as long as I felt it was worth my time. No crying over how she didn't appreciate all the money I spent to move her and her family to Peru. No whining that she was making a mistake and none of the bullshit of putting her on a pedestal. Absolutely none of the crap of 3 or 4 years later telling everyone that you've finally found a replacement.
[QUOTE]Worthy is what the man thinks of himself not what women think of him. The man has to think he is worthy of a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The man has to be worthy, according to you. His balls have to be surgically removed and handed over. You're insisting that you have to live up to some standard to qualify for some woman. I don't do that. I know my own value. There's no need to "prove" myself, certainly not to someone like you.
[QUOTE]Because you did not have a 9 or 10 you thought using numbers to judge was childish, but she is estrato 4? I told Miami Boy to quit arguing with you about 9's and 10's because losers like you do not like that system because you do not have 9's and 10's, but you are happy to use a woman's numbers when you think they make you look good.[/QUOTE]At least some people who have been to Colombia understand this. Obviously you don't. Colombian cities are delineated by economic levels, or estratos. There are 6 estratos, from the lowest level to the highest. This system is used for taxation and the calculation of economic burden for necessary services. For example, people living in an estrato 6 neighborhood pay more for electricity (per KwH) than people living in an estrato 2 neighborhood. It's not some arbitrary number, it's a government defined classification system.
Estrato 4 is a middle class neighborhood, made up of middle class families. Their schools and hospitals are better than those in an estrato 2 barrio. Do you understand it now? To determine anyone's economic estrato all you need to know is the address where they grew up. Do a search, locate the address and there's nothing subjective about it.
A 1-10 scale is childish. Just read the posts from the main proponents. Clear as can be. It's childish because it is a narrow definition of a broad subject. It's silly because, as has been demonstrated here many times, it's subjective. Men, at least men who don't cut off their balls and hand them to a woman to show they're worthy, have varied tastes, they place different values on every trait. They also factor in their goals and desires. However, some people can't grasp that and can only work 2 dimensionally. Why should anyone else place blinders on their perception?
[QUOTE]And now Mr. 60 year old truck driver you are lecturing me on seeking, all the women on there, and all the elites in Colombia? And you know for a fact based on that "knowledge", my girl is not elite and somehow you know her better than me?
Anyone who tried to put down my woman goes in the crazy pile, and on all the points above, you are completely delusional.
I do not advise competing with what I have. But if you do, the next time you want to compare GFs, maybe you should actually have one.[/QUOTE]No. I'm not lecturing you on Seeking. There's no way you could possibly meet the entrance requirements to my lecture.
Yes. I know your girl is not elite. I don't claim to know her better than you. That would require paying her more than you and she's not worth it to me.
In Colombia, elite is based upon economic status. The elite are quite bound by tradition. With a possible rare exception of an incredibly ugly daughter, no elite family is going to be the subject of gossip over an unwanted pregnancy. If she's ugly enough, the family might kick her out, disavow her and make her find her own way, but that's highly unlikely. Instead, they will take one of 3 paths.
The first is abortion. The pregnancy never happened and it will never be discussed again. The second is something which was quite popular in my high-school days, rheumatic fever, or some other prolonged illness. The girl is sent away to recover, quietly gives birth and the child is either put up for adoption, or handed over to a married family member who can claim it as her own. In the third case, the girl is sent far away, provided with what she needs and she goes on with her life away from the gossiping neighbors.
I've been lucky. First, my old roommate is from an estrato 4 family. Both her mother and father hold management positions. I've met them both. I've spent many hours discussing my roommate's upbringing and views. I've met her friends, including the one who got pregnant.
During the same time frame I met one of the Colombian elite and her husband. An unfortunate incident gave me a secondhand view of how they deal with scandal.
There's more, but it doesn't matter. You believe that elite in Colombia is solely based upon your opinion of someone's appearance, but the elite know that appearance can easily be changed. Or did you believe all those plastic surgeons are being supported by cheap boob jobs on hookers?
You keep saying these bizarre things and I can't understand why. First you go off about me claiming to be your equal. There's no way I could be your equal. Where could I even find a doctor to perform the lobotomy? Now you're claiming I'm trying to compete with you? For what? I'm certainly not trying to compete on renting apartments for single mothers. I'm not going to compete for overpriced hookers on Seeking. I'm not even interested in building a harem, proving my worth or getting anyone to earn monogamy.
There's no competition that I'm aware of. Perhaps that's another product of your underdeveloped imagination. Besides, I'd feel bad trying to compete with you. It would be like LeBron James taking on a legless dwarf in basketball. Sorry. A fat legless dwarf. Full court.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2775978]Do you know on the Simpsons the guy Smithers? He is really supposed to be a pathetic yes man but if you think about this kind of a guy he really has a lot of power and wealth. What I mean is that the kind of guy the beauty queen girls like. They want a guy who helps them looks good, who builds their brand, who knows what they like and gives it to them. And that is what happened when I met Miss Cartagena..[/QUOTE]You do know the character is gay right? And what you described as the type of guy that beauty queens like does not seem the least bit masculine. It sounds like the role one of their gay friends would fill.
"In many ways, Smithers represents the stereotype of a closeted gay man. Numerous allusions and double entendres about his homosexuality are made, though some of the show's producers instead interpret him as a "Burns-sexual". In the season 27 (2016) episode "The Burns Cage", he officially came out as gay."