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[QUOTE=Myrrh;1910315]... go to country like the UK where prostitutes are persecuted by the police and they cannot ply their trade openly for fear of being arrested for some trivial reason or other?[/QUOTE]Misinformation as usual.

Prostitution is legal in the UK. The only case where police harass is with street workers. Otherwise anyone can ply her trade in her own premises openly. Agencies, parties, girls openly advertise freely.

It may be more attractive for a attractive Romanian girl to be in a thriving and lively city like London, making enough money to enjoy the cty, than living in the middle of nowhere, such as an industrial Park in the Ruhr area. To each his own, I am sure some will happily stay in Germany, but facts are proving you wrong, London is already flooded with Romanians.

So weekend is here. Planning to score one tonight at this club. Lets see how it goes.

[QUOTE=Pepe1976X;1889760]Drove past the famous Kings Cross pub the Flying Scotsman last week and saw it has been reinstated as a normal pub. For decades this had been a strip joint. Free entry and a 1 in the girls glass jar. I?[/QUOTE]One of the best deals and close to the West End is The Griffin Strip Club with some amazing girls. Same formula a 1 in the jar, Free entry.

Good deals on private dances and very close are between 1&5 pm only £ 10 . [URL]http://thegriffinstripclub.co.uk/[/URL].

Some really hot girls there from Brazil, UK,Romania, Sarah (Brazil) Kimmy (Black British of Indian Jamaican Origin) and yes hot Romanian Girls, Denise, Alicia, Honey a bubbly curvy English girls. [URL]http://thegriffinstripclub.co.uk/timetable[/URL].

The place is well ventilated and spacious.

After 5 pm, another good option in the heart of the West End with free entry before 7 pm [URL]http://www.platinumlace.co.uk/clubs/london/opening-hours/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1911572]And this proves everything as its set in stone.

QUOTE=Optimist;1910769]What quite a few girls working in FKK have told me about having worked in London.

1. The money they earn in London looks good but they have higher "overheads" than in Germany, to say nothing of the inflated cost of accommodation.

2 They are much less safe, and when they are on the receiving end of trouble are likely to get no help from the Police.

3 Unlike in FKK they are isolated and cannot screen their customers effectively.[/QUOTE]No, I never suggested that what I have been told means anything is set in stone. I assume that your statement was sarcasm as otherwise it meant that you are saying that the opinions I passed on are God's own truth

I explained in clear words that it was only what girls said was their experience. Please don't misrepresent my meaning.

Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I can understand that the emotive word expresses your feelings, but it is not a fact. Specific numbers are facts.

You are right that girls much prefer to be in a city like London than in what they consider a boring bit of Germany (based on what girls say to me)

My feeling is that in my area there are too many stick in the mud, unenterprising, and xenophobic English people. I want more young, dynamic Romanians. That is just my opinion :)

Cheers

Dreams. If you investigate Operation Nexus and the work of the English Collective of Prostitutes I think you will see that there is a policy and practice which is certainly, in my view, equivalent to persecution of Prostitutes from the EU, as Myrrh suggests.

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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912529]Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I can understand that the emotive word expresses your feelings, but it is not a fact. Specific numbers are facts.


Cheers[/QUOTE]Here are some Specific numbers, not counting the ones who work without NI numbers figure 1: Overview of Ni No Registrations data for EU citizens, year ending Dec 2003 to year ending Dec 2015.

Overview of NINo data for EU2, EU8 and EU15 in context of EU8 accession and lifting of EU2 controls. [URL]https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepop[/URL].

National Insurance numbers total of 214,000 registrations of Romanians and Bulgarians (EU2) to the year ending June 2015.

"The number of National Insurance numbers issued to Bulgarians and Romanians has jumped from below 50,000 to more than 200,000 since work restrictions on people from those countries were lifted in 2014."

Many Romanian and EE WGs also register themselves as self employed paying National Insurance and taxes to legalize their stay in the UK especially those who work at Strip clubs or reputable agencies and incalls run by British People. Of course the best ones head to and work in London.

Yes, London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanian girls and I am hoping for an even bigger Flood of Young Hot Reliable Romanian girls of the type I've mongered with lately in London. A report with links on some of them will follow.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1912529]Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I I want more young, dynamic Romanians. That is just my opinion :)

Cheers[/QUOTE]If you want what you're looking for, now you know Where to look for them in the UK as its now been proved in (Figures) that London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanians.

LOL, be a true Optimist, Enjoy the London scene before Brexit comes into force.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1912529]Dreams.

You are right that girls much prefer to be in a city like London than in what they consider a boring bit of Germany (based on what girls say to me)

Cheers[/QUOTE]Prior to the lifting of controls on Romanians they were attracted to Italy and Spain because of Similarity of Romanian language to Italian and Spanish, that's what few WGS told me.

And prior to Romania joining The EU they were to be found in Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, Turkey.

Now Young Romanians including WGS are much more likely to have some English skills than German, same applies all over Eastern and Central Europe.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1912095]Misinformation as usual.

Prostitution is legal in the UK. The only case where police harass is with street workers. Otherwise anyone can ply her trade in her own premises openly. Agencies, parties, girls openly advertise freely.[/QUOTE]Dreams,

I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.

But who said anything about prostitution being illegal in the UK? Everyone knows that prostitution has always been completely legal in the UK. The paradox though is that although a woman can never be arrested for being a prostitute, pretty much everything else that she needs to operate easily in her profession is illegal.

She can't openly solicit on the streets, advertise her prostitution services in the general media, hire someone to act as her manager / agent, work from a premise with more than one other prostitute working there and so on. Even if she has a maid to help her with answering the phone and opening the door to visitors, she cannot pay her a salary directly but instead the maid has to rely on tips from punters to make a living.

The prostitute can act as a prostitute as long as the general public is unaware she is a prostitute. So she will describe herself as a model, a masseuse, a hostess or even a lap dancer to escape unwelcome attention from the general public if not the law.

In fact the environment for prostitutes is so unfavorable here that most people actually assume that prostitution is illegal. Whereas in other countries, like Thailand, where prostitution is against the law people assume that is completely legal because prostitutes are allowed to operate totally openly and their profession is generally accepted within society as a legitimate way to make a living.

Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1712329][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg[/URL]

Published on 26 Jul 2013.

The Met police raid on Steam and Sun Health Club in Chalton Street, London, in February 2012.

[URL]http://taxileaks.********.co.uk/2013/07/sun-and-sauna-owner-gets-two-years-for.html[/URL]

Sauna owner gets two years for running a brothel.

[URL]http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/04/upmarket-brothel-steam-sun-club-made-26m-a-year-...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1912592]Here are some Specific numbers, not counting the ones who work without NI numbers figure 1: Overview of Ni No Registrations data for EU citizens, year ending Dec 2003 to year ending Dec 2015.

Overview of NINo data for EU2, EU8 and EU15 in context of EU8 accession and lifting of EU2 controls. [URL]https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepop[/URL].

National Insurance numbers total of 214,000 registrations of Romanians and Bulgarians (EU2) to the year ending June 2015.

"The number of National Insurance numbers issued to Bulgarians and Romanians has jumped from below 50,000 to more than 200,000 since work restrictions on people from those countries were lifted in 2014."

Many Romanian and EE WGs also register themselves as self employed paying National Insurance and taxes to legalize their stay in the UK especially those who work at Strip clubs or reputable agencies and incalls run by British People. Of course the best ones head to and work in London.

Yes, London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanian girls and I am hoping for an even bigger Flood of Young Hot Reliable Romanian girls of the type I've mongered with lately in London. A report with links on some of them will follow.[/QUOTE]More official figures on the number of Romanians.

[URL]http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migration1/migration-statistics-quarterly-report/february-2015/sty-bulgarian-and-romanian-migration-to-the-uk.html[/URL]

"Figures from the Labour Force Survey (LFS) and National Insurance Numbers (NINos) allocated to adult overseas nationals provide information on employment of EU2 nationals. These sources suggest that over the last year there were increases in the number of EU2 nationals either seeking work or in employment.

In the year ending December 2014, Romanian citizens were allocated the largest number of NINos; the total of 146,000 was a 715% increase on the 18,000 NINos allocated in the year to December 2013. Over the same period NINo allocations to Bulgarian nationals increased by 325% from 32,000 to 42,000. The NINo statistics represent a flow measure of non-UK nationals registering for a NINo. These patterns will also include short-term migrants and are not a direct measure of when a person immigrated to the UK, as those registering may have arrived to live in the UK weeks, months or years before registering.

Data from the LFS shows the number of Bulgarian and Romanian citizens in employment in the UK. The latest estimates show 154,000 Bulgarian and Romanian nationals employed in the UK in October to December 2014, a 19% increase on the same period in 2013 ".

More figures [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians[/URL].

At the time of the 2001 census, 7,631 Romanian-born people were residing in the UK. When Romania joined the European Union in January 2007.

The British government placed transitional restrictions on the rights of Romanians to work in the UK, which expired on 1 January 2014. The Office for.

National Statistics (ONS) estimates that, in 2012,101,000 Romanian-born people were resident in the UK. In 2014, the ONS estimates that 170,000 Romanian-born people were resident in the UK. ".

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1912645]Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.[/QUOTE]In the interest of balance, The link here describes another raid where public attitudes are changing which prompted the raid [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/germanys-mega-brothel-left-me-cold/[/URL].

"Public attitudes are changing in Germany. As well they might when a small city like the 180,000 population Saarbrücken can boast 100 brothels and a sprawling branch of Paradise. There have been petitions and demonstrations demanding changes to the law. While Channel 4 was filming its documentary, police raided the entire Paradise chain and Michael Beretin is currently in remand, arrested on suspicion of pimping. ".

Hence, the New Law regulating sex In Germany coming into force on 1 July 2017 l, 11 months time, the clock is ticking.

No such laws in The UK so far forcing Mongers to condom up or an end to flat rate all you can fuck parties.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1912645]Dreams,

I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.



Even if she has a maid to help her with answering the phone and opening the door to visitors, she cannot pay her a salary directly but instead the maid has to rely on tips from punters to make a living...[/QUOTE]Really. Where did you get your info from? I thought you said in one of your posts, you've never been to Soho and you only tried [URL]adultwork.com[/URL] once.

Prostitutes can pay maids wages for cleaning, laundry etc of the premises even maids in Soho and other Incall places open the doors to visitors.

Only in Soho Tips of £2 are requested for the maids, nowhere else.

[URL]http://www.opendoors.nhs.uk/content/law-maiding-and-brothels[/URL]

" Maids or housekeepers in brothels. , if your duties are of a menial nature and you have no control over prices or services, general you will not be committing an offence.

When working with a lone sex worker, it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are (EG cleaning and raising the alarm of an assault by a customer). (Release 'Sex Workers and the Law' 2011)".

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1912645]Dreams,

I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.


Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.[/QUOTE]The Sauna which got raided was Sun&Stean in Chalton Street.

Other Saunas I posted on for the benefit of one of your mates are still open, But he said it was too far for him. Libby's Sauna and Aqua.

[URL]http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/265607/Brothels-thrive-beside-Olympic-stadium[/URL]

Brothels thrive beside Olympic stadium.

BRAZEN hookers are "ho'ing for gold" in brothels just a javelin throw away from the Olympic Park. ".