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[QUOTE=Rog123; 1117001]I am wondering if someone could offer me suggestions for the best FKK options (distance / travel / strength of FKK) from Amsterdam. I will be traveling solo and have not been to this area of Germany. I figure Samya and Goldentime are my best bets, but I cannot even figure out exactly which city Goldentime is in and where I should stay and how I would get there.

If someone is really familiar with the area / scene and could help me out via PM it would be much appreciated! I have tried to help out where I can on this forum for 5+ years. [/QUOTE]If you want to travel by public transport from A'dam to GT, first take the train to Venlo (NL) then best is to take a taxi from Venlo Railway station to GT. This is about 20 km and from what I understood this is about 20 Euro (some of my Dutch Icebear friends often make some kind of deal with the Taxi driver)

For Samya see the Samya topic. For travelling in Germany use:

[url]http://www.bahn.de/p/view/index.shtml[/url]

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Thanks so much guys! I will do a bit or research with this information. This helps quite a bit!

I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.

Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other?

[QUOTE=Seabreeze0003; 1119217]I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.

Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other? [/QUOTE]Among the clubs you mentioned I have been to La Luna and Tabulos. Both meet your needs. More info on the proper threads. Be aware that on certain days a gang bang goes on and everthything goes public, but only on certain days. Both offer AO, at Tabulos no extra for that, at La Luna you pay an extra fee.

[QUOTE=Travelerb69;1119331]...Both offer AO...[/QUOTE]AO=everything without condom? Correct?

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1119367]AO=everything without condom? Correct?[/QUOTE]Correct-AO=Alles Ohne=bare back full service or sex without a condom.

[QUOTE=Seabreeze0003; 1119217]I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.

Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other? [/QUOTE]At La Lune, the girls are younger and more attractive. At Tabulouse, most women are their 30's and 40's.

There are more girls in La Luna, there is only a few (four or five) women at Tabulous. But La Luna stinks, Tabulouse is not also that clean, but much cleaner than La Luna. At Tabulouse, AO is standart, in La Luna, it is extra and a single session might be very expensive if you choose all the extras.

La Dolce Vita in Raubach, I didn't visit yet but the pictures of the line-up didn't simply match my taste.

GFE is not always easy to find. If you happen to cross with a GFE girl you may like, you just stick with her and always try to repeat another new session.

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1117225]Actually, as good as GT is / can be, unless you are prepared to hire a car and drive yourself (or have unlimited resources for taxi fare) , I would strongly suggest you skip the attempt and concentrate on Samya (which is easily accessible via S-bahn from central Koln) or, better yet, Living Room.

In fact, LR, which is walking distance from the S-bahn station near the end of the S-28 line (? I think that's the correct number) , approx 25 minutes from D-dorf Hbf, might actually offer a better (or at least very competitive) line-up as GT, without the hassle fo getting to / from the club. LR is the sister club to GT and several GT girls also work at LR. For what it's worth, I recently visited both clubs on the same day / night and found LR's night line-up more intruiguing than GT's daytime / early evening line-up.

Another plus for LR: there is a pretty decent hotel, the ISA (International Sport Arena) Hotel about two minute walk from LR. They offer a weeday rate of 49euros.

So on balance LR would be my suggestion for the best club to target as a side trip from Amsterdam. Your logistics:

ICE train from Amsterdam CS to D-dorf Hbf.

S-bahn from D-dorf Hbf to Kaarst-Ikea S-bahn stop.

Google maps shows the locations of LR, ISA Hotel and the S-bahn station, BTW.

O[/QUOTE]Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.

[QUOTE=Rog123;1119533]Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.[/QUOTE]In the Cologne area, other options that I've had good results are Bernds, Park Sauna Residence, and a non-Fkk Teenyland.

Bernds is my favorite. It's small and not to everyone's liking. But the service is amoung the best.

PSR is a newer club with outstanding facilities. The girls don't have the same reputation as the girls at Bernds but there are a few ex-Bernds girls there that have great reps. As with anything, YMMV.

Teenyland is not a FKK but closer to a brothel. It's small and I don't think the facilities are as good as Bernds, but the girls are very attractive. As you can guess by the name, the girls tend to be a little younger than what I've guessed to be the average age at an average FKK.

[QUOTE=Rog123;1119533]Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.[/QUOTE]Just use Google Maps. It'll help you to get a feeling for distances and geographies.

HB

[QUOTE=Rog123;1119533]Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.[/QUOTE]You mention 'easy travel'. Big question is 'do you have a car? '. If not then your stuck with Samya and Living Room. Another option if your doing public transportation is to bypass or add Frankfurt to your destination...Fkk Oase is a must visit and from reports, easy to reach via public transportation. Im not sure, but I think an ice train runs from cologne to frankfurt and would get you there in a hurry.

If you have a car or can rent a car then you'll be better set for exploring the bigger clubs. Avoid the smaller clubs like Bernds until you get your feet wet in the fkk scene. Its easier to blend into a larger club like Samya.

Here's the only map you'll need [url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5[/url]

[QUOTE=Rog123;1119533]Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.[/QUOTE]Living Room is easy to get to from Dusseldorf but Samya will be more difficult. If you are staying in Koln, you will be a lot closer to Samya. If you base yourself from either city you will be in a good position to be near most good FKK clubs. I think the only one you will be a bit out of the way from will be Bernd's which is near Bonn. LR is very accessible by public transport, I never been to Samya so I cannot say about that club but I think its located out of the city center.

The only downside of having to choose either city in my experience is when buying an unlimited regional rail and bus ticket, the ones for Dusseldorf's region do not cover the Cologne region and vice versa. Dusseldorf is VRR and Cologne is VRS.

Anybody know of any porn shot in the clubs or with FKK talent? If so can you point it out?

Dear readers and writers,

I was not sure whether to pose my question in the FAQ section or in the General section or in each of the individual threads. So in the end I am writing in the General section with the option to write in each of the individual threads.

I am looking to do a tour of the Nord Rhein Westfalen and / or the Hessen clubs and wanted some advice on the order of play for clubs. I will have 3 days and 4 nights in country and I am looking to maximise the exposure to different clubs. I will arrive late on a Thursday night and leave on the following Monday.

PROGRAM 1.

If I did a purely Hessen club play, the thinking is:

Thurs. Arrive at airport late then head straight to Mainhattan probably getting there at around 00:30 in the morning with closing time at 04:00. Word up from Hessen Bub is that the line up will be not the best and you will only have a couple of hours until closing anyway. Any more thoughts on the issue?

Fri. Two ideas here: 1. Oase all day or 2. Maybe double club with a Das 5 Element in the day to say 7pm and then move onto Oase for the evening. If I took option 2 I will be allowing say 1. 5 hours for the drive from Fulda to BHH given it took about 1. 2 hours last time from BH to Fulda.

Sat. World. All day for the party atmosphere.

Sun. Palace or possibly Oase since Oase has the best line up in Hessen on a Sunday just like Golden Time has the best line up in NRW and Artemis has the best line up in Berlin and Globe has the best line up in Zurich in my opinion.

PROGRAM 2.

Thurs. Drive up from airport to Bonn / Cologne area and stay the night.

Fri. Park Sauna Residenz or potentially Samya. Left field choice is Bernds.

Sat. World.

Sun. Oase.

Any thoughts on program 1 and / or program 2? What would be the optimal positioning of the clubs in terms of order to get the best bang in terms of line up but also maximising the number of different clubs?

I welcome your replies.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1120139]You mention 'easy travel'. Big question is 'do you have a car? '. If not then your stuck with Samya and Living Room. Another option if your doing public transportation is to bypass or add Frankfurt to your destination. Fkk Oase is a must visit and from reports, easy to reach via public transportation. I'm not sure, but I think an ice train runs from cologne to frankfurt and would get you there in a hurry.

If you have a car or can rent a car then you'll be better set for exploring the bigger clubs. Avoid the smaller clubs like Bernds until you get your feet wet in the fkk scene. Its easier to blend into a larger club like Samya.

Here's the only map you'll need.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the map and advice. I will not have a car (hate driving anyways so would not want to drive in a foreign country). So public transportation will be a must, Can probably afford 40 Euros or so per trip for taxi fare but would probably want to cut out any unnecessary expenses so I can spend more on the ladies.

I am thinking of staying two nights in Cologne and two in Dusseldorf.

Thinking it will go like this:

Dusseldorf.

Mon: Living Roon.

Tues: Dolce Vita (or a return to LR if I have a really good time there Monday)

Cologne:

Wed: Teenyland.

Thursday: Samya.

Thanks for the suggestion for Frankfurt. If I had more time I would probably venture further. However, with only four days I think that I will have as much fun as I can have in this area. When I went to Goldentime in Austria I could have gone there five nights in a row and never got bored so I am sure even if I wind up in the same club twice in one trip that I am still going to have the time of my life.