[QUOTE=Mattrick]DHG is American owned and has very very deep pockets.
A boycott is laughable![/QUOTE]
That may be so, but I'd rather they laugh at me without my money in their very very deep pockets. :D
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]DHG is American owned and has very very deep pockets.
A boycott is laughable![/QUOTE]
That may be so, but I'd rather they laugh at me without my money in their very very deep pockets. :D
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]No flame. :)
Just like walking alone to Perimeter from Fields at night is stupid (unsafe and no girls available)[/QUOTE]
I used to walk between Fields and my hotel LGH (at Perimeter) at night no problems, thinking it wasn't really that far or unsafe. Really the only dark spot is that unused plot of land next to LGH. Then I read about the American who was killed there, but then his assailant apparently knew the girl he was with, so it probably wasn't some random robbery but possibly a jealous rage.
[QUOTE=Gonzofiend]I'll be focusing more on the Perimeter and making sure I'm not stupid enough to spend a whole week with the same girl again, although she was cool.
Gonzofiend[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with spending time with the same girl if she pushes the right buttons.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]DHG is American owned and has very very deep pockets.
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Bet that their arms are very, very short as well and they find themselves unable to reach into their deep pockets to help pay the guys medical bills. Mind you he would have been a fool to come on holiday to The Philippines without adequate travel insurance cover.
Has anyone read Pattaya Mail recently. Beatings, robberies, questionable suicides and druggings, all involving tourists, almost on a daily basis. Makes Angeles look like Toy Town in comparison!
[QUOTE=Christopherd]For anyone feeling a boycott is morally superior, consider the loss of earnings to the girls (and guys) that work there and don't beat contentious gringos to a pulp. Think about how you are condoning a nanny-state attitude. There's always two sides and usually more. This 'your with them or against them' cr*p should have gone out with GWB.[/QUOTE]
You do have a good point in your first sentence. But I can't agree with the rest. A "nanny-state attitude" would imply getting the government (or some other entity that can use force) involved. Everyone here is still free to choose whether or not to enter the bars. Big, big difference between the freedom to choose and the use of force.
And it's also unrelated to "with us or against us." The reality is that there are only two choices to make--enter the DHG bars, or don't. Your reasons for going or not going are really irrelevant. The DHG has either made money or it hasn't. The only real third option I can see are the guys who don't know about the incident, which (let's face it) will probably be a vast majority of the people in AC.
[QUOTE=Bopalula]1) Pad your bill if you don't keep a close eye on them.
2) Charge you for ladydrinks for any woman you bring in their bars.
3) Are under strong suspicion of putting someone in a coma for protesting
Number 2
They have zero chance of me frequenting any of their bars for numbers 1 and 2, let alone 3.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Bopalula[/QUOTE]
Sums it up for me as well. Too bad, I had a cool girl at Pony Tails, too.
This is my second trip to Angeles and unfortunately it is no better than my first trip. I guess you are either an Angeles person or you are not and I am not. When i go on a mongering trip I want to have sex with as many beautiful girls (and the most beautiful that I can find) as possible and with the minimum fuss. In my opinion this is just not possible in Angeles and you are forced to settle for the second teir girls. I find the Cherry Girl / Menstrating thing is just so frustrating . I dont mean any disrespect to anyone but just trying to say it how I see it. Angeles to me is a joke for the serious monger, it is a place to try and find the girlfriend experience and just forget about trying to find any beautiful girls, it really is just way to much hassle and you negate any cost savings through the sheer amount of drinks and bars you do have to visit before ypu find a girl that will go with you. Admittedly the GFE is very good when you do finally get a girl put i much prefer the point and go style of Thailand or Southern China, no hassle just pure business and every girl will go with you without question.
Pros
Great girlfriend experience
Condom optional
Speak English
Cons
Knowing that any attractive girl will not be available
Fat Jollibee stomachs on most girls
Loads of girls with kids
Can only choose from second tier girls
Wasted time going bar to bar to find a half decent girl that will go with you
Most available girls are unnatractive
Poor attitude until you start buying drinks for them
Mamasan hovering and hassling to buy drinks while you are asking girl about their avaialbilty before committing to drinks
Attitude in Perimeter road was much better but girls unnatractive apart from Eruptions Club...but guess what, they were attractive and so of course they wouldnt go with anyone!!! We are young clean cut guys too that are in shape and generous...kind of mind blowing really.
If you want to spend time and look for great GFE then this is a good place, but if you want to bang beautiful girls one after the other then this is definitely not the place.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]This is my second trip to Angeles and unfortunately it is no better than my first trip. I guess you are either an Angeles person or you are not and I am not. When I go on a mongering trip I want to have sex with as many beautiful girls (and the most beautiful that I can find) as possible and with the minimum fuss. In my opinion this is just not possible in Angeles and you are forced to settle for the second teir girls. I find the Cherry Girl / Menstrating thing is just so frustrating. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone but just trying to say it how I see it. Angeles to me is a joke for the serious monger, it is a place to try and find the girlfriend experience and just forget about trying to find any beautiful girls, it really is just way to much hassle and you negate any cost savings through the sheer amount of drinks and bars you do have to visit before ypu find a girl that will go with you. Admittedly the GFE is very good when you do finally get a girl put I much prefer the point and go style of Thailand or Southern China, no hassle just pure business and every girl will go with you without question.
Pros
Great girlfriend experience
Condom optional
Speak English
Cons
Knowing that any attractive girl will not be available
Fat Jollibee stomachs on most girls
Loads of girls with kids
Can only choose from second tier girls
Wasted time going bar to bar to find a half decent girl that will go with you
Most available girls are unnatractive
Poor attitude until you start buying drinks for them
Mamasan hovering and hassling to buy drinks while you are asking girl about their avaialbilty before committing to drinks
Attitude in Perimeter road was much better but girls unnatractive apart from Eruptions Club. But guess what, they were attractive and so of course they wouldn't go with anyone! We are young clean cut guys too that are in shape and generous. Kind of mind blowing really.
If you want to spend time and look for great GFE then this is a good place, but if you want to bang beautiful girls one after the other then this is definitely not the place.[/QUOTE]Having lived in south China and really getting to know the environment there, both as a regular customer and as a good friend of one KTV owner, I have a slightly different view of things.
In China indeed it's easy to make the girl go with you. But the actualy experience will usually be much worse than in AC. The majority of Chinese girls in BBS will just play dead in bed. Many KTV girls are better, but there's really no way of telling. I have seen many of them who gave great GFE while at the club, but still play dead in bed.
In AC, here's my way of doing things:
1. Spot the girl you want.
2. Call the mamasan and ask her to make sure the girl wants to BF, before she comes over.
3. If the above (mamasan approach) is not available, just move away from your seat and call the girl to meet you in another part of the bar. Ask her if she's willing to BF with you. Only if she says YES, invite her to join you at your table.
4. Always buy at least one lady drink to the girl (after you have already made sure she will BF with you).
The above approach worked for me very well. I did have a few girls who couldn't (or wouldn't) go with me. In most cases I found them to be honest. One girl said she will not BF with white men, as she's afraid of their mechanics. I found her answer reasonable, kissed her goodbye, and proceeded to the next one. One other girl told me she's a Cherry Girl, but still would very much like to BF with me, as long as we don't have full sex. I refused, but kissed her as well for her attitude.
I also need to say that I have always had a partner with me on my visits to AC bars. I found out that there are many benefits to having a partner with you, starting from the personal safety issue, and ending with the girl's feeling about you. A person who has friends is considered to be a "safer" customer.
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Bowerboy has said exactly exactly what I have always wanted to say about Angeles. This is an impossible destination for a massive quality
hunting tour.
I think I need to visit you guys in S China. Sounds like fun.
I can't help but think that there are different ways guys interact with the girls which create different results. What works in China or Thailand is going to be different than what works in the Philippines.
As for "impossible destination for a massive quality", I hope you find massive satsifaction at optimum quality for the minimum expenditure ...along with maximum orgasm at the perfect momemt.
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[QUOTE=RCA Knight]Bowerboy has said exactly exactly what I have always wanted to say about Angeles. This is an impossible destination for a massive quality
hunting tour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Attitude in Perimeter road was much better but girls unnatractive apart from Eruptions Club...but guess what, they were attractive and so of course they wouldnt go with anyone!!! We are young clean cut guys too that are in shape and generous...kind of mind blowing really.
If you want to spend time and look for great GFE then this is a good place, but if you want to bang beautiful girls one after the other then this is definitely not the place.[/QUOTE]Strange as it may seem, it may very well be because you are "young and relatively good-looking" that the girls in the larger bars prefer not to go with you.
Many of the better looking girls in the larger bars can make quite a reasonable income by local standards just from their appearance money and commission on Ladies drinks. They are not necessarily excited at the thought of a night in bed with a young white stud and having to endure 5 or 6 energetic rounds with his 7 inches. Of Viagra enhanced salami.
They are mostly slim petite girls, and as such are well aware that too much energetic sex with a horny young white guy stretches and hurts them. How many times have regulars like myself heard comments like " Pokie is broken after last night" from some of these girls. It's not that Pokie is really broken, but they are stretched and sore and need a couple of nights off for the soreness to heal.
On the other hand you may well notice many of the good lookers willingly go with much older and often overweight guys.
That's because they know that once they get back to the hotel it's one quick pop, often with the girls sitting on top where she can easily controll the depth of penetration, and then a good nights sleep in a comfortable bed and often followed by a decent breakfast.
Furthermore, even though many of these girls might have been denied even a high-school education, they are all pretty adept at sizing up the guy, and the chance of a decent tip in the morning.
They all know that the vast majority of younger guys are unlikely to have much money and therefore a decent tip is unlikely, but older retired guys are often much more generous and therefore will give him a much better service.
The ofton dirt poor family circumstances of these girls may have left them with few options but to work in the bars, but don't underestimate them. They know only too well which guys will look after them and which guys won't.
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[QUOTE=RCA Knight]Bowerboy has said exactly exactly what I have always wanted to say about Angeles. This is an impossible destination for a massive quality
hunting tour.[/QUOTE]
While I won't agree with all that Bowerboy has mentioned, I do pretty much agree with his talk of the talent levels and who is available and the real associated costs of looking for your date and not the actual cost of the date. I think some of the better talent have learned they can make more by staying in the bar and milking drinks all night than spreading her legs. I've had much better luck in the bigger cities that I don't go to AC very much anymore. I don't like not having anywhere to really go at night with my dates except more gogo bars mostly. Walking around can be a hassle out there with the darkness in some areas and certain locals hanging and the vehicle traffic on the streets. For some people it's a dream and so easy. It's also that some people have a different scale from 1-10 than others.
The thing I find as strange about the DHG is the lack of response they must know of forum like this or PI @ night, etc, etc.
Everyone is saying the same thing “boycott”. If DHG has another side to the story why haven’t they mouthed up? Personally I was never a fan of DHG so boycott suits me just fine unless I hear their side of the story I tend to believe the forum DHG has had plenty of time to respond.
[QUOTE=Bopalula]1) Pad your bill if you don't keep a close eye on them.
2) Charge you for ladydrinks for any woman you bring in their bars.
3) Are under strong suspicion of putting someone in a coma for protesting
Number 2
They have zero chance of me frequenting any of their bars for numbers 1 and 2, let alone 3.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Bopalula[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Did not like them before and for sure wont patronize now.
I like my brain intact thank you.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]I guess you are either an Angeles person or you are not[/QUOTE]That's probably true, and even for some of us who like the place it was an acquired taste. All the cons you mention are true too, though in time you can learn to work your way around them. If you're looking for a string of 9s and 10s, this is not the place. (Manila is, if you've got the budget.) But if you're OK with fine-looking, fine-performing girls who aren't quite stunners, there are plenty to be found. It just takes some looking. And sometimes, some waiting.
Here's an old favorite. Meets my standards anyhow . . . .
[QUOTE=Betong]That's probably true, and even for some of us who like the place it was an acquired taste. All the cons you mention are true too, though in time you can learn to work your way around them. If you're looking for a string of 9s and 10s, this is not the place. (Manila is, if you've got the budget.) But if you're OK with fine-looking, fine-performing girls who aren't quite stunners, there are plenty to be found. It just takes some looking. And sometimes, some waiting.
Here's an old favorite. Meets my standards anyhow . . . .[/QUOTE]Nice pic. She looks like a solid 9 to my eye, though honestly I don't like 'toos (ok, you can start calling me girly boy, lol)
Do you mind me asking what you pay her?