Policing isn't persecution.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1912541]Dreams. If you investigate Operation Nexus and the work of the English Collective of Prostitutes I think you will see that there is a policy and practice which is certainly, in my view, equivalent to persecution of Prostitutes from the EU, as Myrrh suggests.[/QUOTE]It varies from one police force to another, also from from one area to another raids on brothels where more than one girl is working.
When raids happen it must be due to one of the following.
1 Intolerant Police Force.
2 Intolerant Competition.
3 Intolerant Neighbors.
4 Acting on inel about Drugs, illegal immigrants, trafficked, coerced WGS working there.
More than likely any of the above apply to WGS from Eastern Europe especially the ones who did not register themselves as Self Employed paying National Insurance Contributions.
"A lot has been said, for and against, free movement within the EU. Most people think it means that any EU national can travel to another EU country and live there, work there or look for work. That's true for the first three months. But after that it becomes murkier. One has to 'access one's freedom.
Of movement rights' which means being in employment, being self-employed, being a student with finance for the duration of the course, or having.
Funds to sustain oneself and family. Freedom of movement is one of the founding principles of the EU, designed to support the economies of EU countries by providing a mobile work force. "
Here's more on Operation Nexus which was cited as amounting to persecution.
"Romanian sex workers challenge UK immigration policy.
Women targeted by Operation Nexus, which aims to deport foreign offenders, say they are legitimately self-employed Operation Nexus, a combined police and immigration initiative involving sharing intelligence, has been targeting foreign offenders and those suspected of breaking the law since 2012.
Among those detained and served with deportation papers are an increasing number of women from eastern Europe who have been working on the streets and in premises across London and Manchester. Many do not have convictions.
Prostitution is legal in the UK, although activities associated with it such as kerb-crawling, pimping and owning a brothel are crimes. Some of the women have been arrested by officers during raids intended to break up trafficking rings. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/01/romanian-sex-workers-challenge-uk-immigration-policy[/URL].
There were police raids in Soho few years ago where all Walkups are illegal under the present law but tolerated. Very few walk ups were ordered to close for various reasons, But the majority are still in operation at present. The raids were targeting criminal activities.
"Sex Trafficking and Stolen Goods: Police Raid Soho Hundreds of police officers have taken part in raids in Soho to target [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and the selling of stolen goods. "[URL]http://www.lbc.co.uk/sex-trafficking-and-stolen-goods-police-raid-soho-82446[/URL].
Police would only raid Brothels when they have intel on serious crimes were committed on the premises as in the words of the Police " "The next step will be to work to close a number of the brothels where we have evidence of very serious crimes happening, including [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. We are using the skills and support of specialist officers from throughout the Met to ensure that suspects are found and brought to justice and the women are properly supported. "
Financial investigators are being used to find out where the money is going, to see if they are part of broader criminal networks. " [URL]http://www.lbc.co.uk/sex-trafficking-and-stolen-goods-police-raid-soho-82446[/URL].
London Mayfair July 25-29
Hi,
I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.
Thanks.
Optimist, I agree with you.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1912987]Jojosun. I still find your use of words like flooded and swamped to be inappropriate and emotional, but as we are never going to agree, I won't keep repeating my points. I don't dispute your figures, but I don't share your opinion that it is a flood.
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here as we could go on for ever.
You are definitely right about Romanians having English language skills, and about the climate for pay sex in Germany becoming less tolerant, partly due to the numbers of Romanians working there in pay sex industry[/QUOTE]Hi Optimist,
Guess what? I agree with you on the use of the words "Flooded, Swamped" are emotional, but its like in PR & Journalism" "When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news." It started our discussion on here and I learned few things doing Instant research as we continued and learned few things I never knew before, IE the numbers of Romanians. So in a way it wasn't a waste of space and after all we are not here to agree on everything are we?
Please also note, that I never said London incalls or adultwork is better for selection purposes when compared to FKK Clubs in Germany or that London is a great Mongering destination. I've always said London is a great city with great mongering opportunities for Variety if you do the right research and have plenty of time. There's something there for every budget, taste and price but not in your face so to speak like say in Thailand.
Bars with potential talent?
[QUOTE=Monkeypaw;1912790]Hi,
I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've never used escort agencies in London but posted links on few based on positive feedback by credible members of other sites and what few buds've told me about their experiences using them.
You didn't make yourself clear as to what you mean by, bars with potential talent? What are you looking for, freebies, hoes??
As you're in London for few days and with your budget, you'd be better of hitting one or 2 Gentleman's Clubs where you See Hostesses and Select the girl of your choice and agree a price for a take out. Most of the girls in such clubs are available for takeout once you spend some money inside the club. Best to have a quiet word with the manager and explain to him what you're looking for. Price around £500 ?
Here are some links to clubs close to your Hotel.
[URL]http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/new_churchills_gentlemens_club_w1[/URL]
[URL]http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/the_gaslight_gentlemans_night_club_sw1y[/URL]
[URL]http://www.no4mayfair.com/[/URL]
Here's an interesting article on a Gentelman's club (Chaplin's) now closed, to give you an idea about prices. I and few buds who were on account did take out few girls from the club just before it was closed.
I bumped into Oscar the ex owner of the club about 6 years ago here at [URL]https://www.windmillinternational.com/[/URL].
If you get to try any of the clubs above, don't forget to post a review.
Re Walking a tight rope??
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1913006]You tend to selectively quote evidence from on-line low quality taboid newspapers like the Daily Star ("Brothels thrive beside Olympic stadium") but only select the parts of the text that support your arguments.
You leave out parts like "the police may allege that the maid is selling sex and that the premises therefore counts as a brothel, especially if she / he is young" and from the Daily Star "Police closed 80 brothels in the 18 months before the Olympics in *Newham, east London".
Even the parts that you do quote "it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are" and "general (ly) you will not be committing an offence" show the tight rope that British based prostitutes walk to try and evade prosecution...[/QUOTE]You & others could be prosecuted as well by the Police for any the following.
1. It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament (27%.
2. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside-down.
3. In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store.
4. Mince pies cannot be eaten on Christmas Day.
5. In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter.
6. In the UK a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet.
7. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the King, and the tail of the Queen.
8. It is illegal not to tell the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing.
9. It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armor.
10. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow.
Quoted the above laws not from an " on-line low quality taboid newspapers like the Daily Star", But from a High Quality UK Newspaper [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568475/Ten-stupidest-laws-are-named.html[/URL].
If the above laws in The UK sound stupid, so do some of the laws in Germany, like " You can be fined 20 euros for calling someone an "arse" [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/4399866/Ten-crazy-German-rules.html[/URL].
