Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2670675]I notice the one reviewer who only gave her a 9/10 rating on all three criteria instead of 10/10 on two or more apparently docked her points for "no singing".

Clearly, the customers for those sites are looking for a different kind of service than I am. Hehe.[/QUOTE]One of the most important things about reading reviews on sites like this and others like Fiwfans is know who your poster is. Is this guy a trusted poster? Is he just a fake handle, shill, or troll? Does he only post vague information with no details that anyone could post (ie. Never names bars, girls, etc.)? Does he rate everyone is hot? If he names a girl or bar how was his experience compared to your recent experience at that bar? Better yet, meet up with guys who say they are in town and go out with them. This is by far the best way to know if the poster has similar taste in girls than you do.

[QUOTE=DBrick;2670436]I would say there are three types of online girls...

Part-time girls (students, office workers) earning some extra money... was a pleasant surprise to me. Some real gems with almost genuine GF experience and exemplary skillset / stamina. Most of them are willing to repeat at my place, saving the encumbrance of commuting to their hotels. One of the indications of type three girls (in their online profiles) is that they do not work for through agencies and have their face hidden.[/QUOTE]You solved a huge mystery for me. I was wondering why some girls hide their faces while charging a higher price, and still expect business. Why would anyone in their right might choose them over those with faces, one the same site, with no other observable difference. Now I understand, a likely part-timer.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2670712]Personally I weight attitude twice as important to looks, so a 7 looks 10 attitude grades as (7+10+10)/3 = 9 overall, where a 10 looks 7 attitude grades as (10+7+7)/3 = 8 overall.

Escort terms: [URL]https://skipthegames.com/articles/about-escorts/escort-terms-escort-sex-definitions-escort-abbreviations[/URL].

LAS:

Looks / Attitude / Service: A subjective ranking system where each criteria is separately ranked, from lowest (1) to highest (10). Examples: 2/9/8 = Unattractive, but very friendly and good sex. 10/5/4 = Model material, but a poor attitude, and mediocre sex.

LASER:

Same as above + Expense and (would or wouldn't) Repeat.

SL.[/QUOTE]It makes sense. That's why I feel like LDs help. While I'm drinking with them, I can get a feel for what their attitude will be like. Of course, that can all change after the barfine. But having indications (ex. If she just keeps asking for lady drinks over and over again) can help weed out the bad attitude ladies. It can also make the less attractive ladies (looks = 7) more attractive due to their attitude.

Days and nights are kind of blurring together. Some nights, I'm just out on a date because I want the company of a beautiful lady while eating at some of the famous sky lounges in BKK. While fucking is my main objective, I also want to experience some of the other things BKK has to offer.

[B]Recon[/B]

Even when I don't have plans to take a lady for ST or LT, I like to scan the area at night to get an idea of what the talent pool looks like and what the going rates are. Soi Cowboy seems to get things started earlier now due to the 11 PM curfew for businesses. I heard some stay open even later, but haven't verified. Kazy Kozy and Crazy House both have 2nd floors that seem to have more action. Crazy House was pretty cool where upon entering the first floor, you can look up the glass floor to the 2nd floor where the ladies are dancing. Completely nude. So you're looking directly up into their snatch, which is an amazing invitation to come up to the second floor. Crazy House's entrance is located around the corner of Kazy Kozy off soi 23.

I was actually just doing a drive by on my way to a legit massage shop [URL]https://www.rueansabai.com/[/URL] which has been my go to after long walks around town. 150 B for 1 HR foot or Thai massage. It's also a nice scenic route where you pass Soi Cowboy and a few happy ending shops. One in particular (Golden Satang) seems to be a good option. They have 2 young, cute girls who are asking for 2 k for FS. I offered 1 k plus massage fee (500 B), but they wouldn't budge so I've passed by them at least 4 times in the past week.

Once again, I passed by them and went to a couple shops down (I think it was MoNa-1) with some sexy MILFs. There was one lady I caught the name of the night before, Oi. So looking for a legit massage (300 B), I asked for Oi. She seemed happy and recognized me. She saw how hot and sweaty I was and offered me a shower. Back in the massage room, her massage was very lacking and I had to ask for a swap. Another semi attractive MILF came in and gave me a very nice massage. On the turn, she asked if I wanted anything special and I told her not today (already had plans to barfine a chick from Lollipop). I asked her how much extras would be and she said 500 for HJ, 1500 for BJ, which makes the 2 k offer at Golden Satang seem more reasonable. After the massage, I split a 100 B tip, 60 for my lady and 40 for the lady that tried in the beginning. Then went to Ruean Sabai for an HR foot massage, not really worth writing any details other than the 200 B price which includes tip.

[B]LT girl from Lollipop[/B]

Walked back through Soi Cowboy and things were picking up. Back to my hotel for a quick shower and headed over to Soi 7 for another drive by. Soi 7 is surprisingly busy with lots of customers and ladies. Ladies outnumber the customers by far. I've never been to soi 7 in my previous trips, so it's a nice surprise. Unfortunately, there's this one girl I'd seen on my first visit (when EihTooms introduced me to soi 7) whom I keep missing.

After a quick walk through, I make my way towards Lollipop. There's a very cute, young girl there. Every time she sits with me (this was my 3rd visit), fellow mongers are ogling her. I buy her a couple drinks, she gets a shot of tequila and monster, and a glass of jack and coke. Over the course of about 30 minutes, we're making out at the bar. Her friend also comes, they're roommates and I buy her a drink. Mamasan wants me to buy her a drink, a drink for another lady, a drink for a new lady that just had a baby, and a waiter that just turned 51. I just hand her 100 B to leave me alone, and also thanks for hooking up the young Thai girl I'm with. I barfine her (600 B, 4 k LT) and we head to my hotel. Performance was a bit lackluster, but we did BBFS+CIP without any hesitation. There was lots of DFK and her BBBJ wasn't too bad. But she was young and inexperienced, which I half expected.

After round 1, we rested and ordered Bonchon via FoodPanda. And after dinner, we both rested a bit, me on my computer, her on her phone. But about 15 minutes in, she started dozing off. I wanted to make sure we get at least round 2 in before bed. I was barely about to wake her up. She got me hard again with some BBBJ, mounted on top for CG with lots of DFK. Finished in K9. We both washed up and went to bed. The plan was to get one more round in when we woke up. But she got up suddenly at 7 AM and said she needed to go take some kind of exam. I didn't really push for round 3. I tipped her as a thanks for the BBFS. I probably won't repeat. But glad I tried her out.

Special thanks to EihTooms for showing a couple of us around town. I'm wondering if the BBFS was possible thanks to his intro. I've had a couple successful BBFS in the past. But it was more the exception than the rule. Hopefully, this will change. This was also why I tipped the mamasan, so she can hook it up if there are more cute BBFS ladies in the shop.

[B]Wrapping things up[/B]

In summary, I think Nana has the best selection right now. Thermae has some good bargains, too, at 4 k LT for girls I would rate as an 8 face, 9 body. 2 k-2. 5 k seems to be the standard ST rate. And 4 k-6 k seems to be the standard LT rate. The LT will drop to 4 k-5 k at around 10 PM, as these businesses are supposed to close at 11 PM. Soi 7 has a large selection, although the average looks is below what Thermae and Nana have to offer. But there are a few hidden gems. One's so hidden, I haven't seen her since that first visit.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2670993]It makes sense. That's why I feel like LDs help. While I'm drinking with them, I can get a feel for what their attitude will be like. Of course, that can all change after the barfine. But having indications (ex. If she just keeps asking for lady drinks over and over again) can help weed out the bad attitude ladies. It can also make the less attractive ladies (looks = 7) more attractive due to their attitude.[/QUOTE]Yeah I would rank attitude as the top factor for me when I'm looking to take a girl back.

There are those who want LDs as soon as they finished 1.

And there are those who wouldn't mind sitting with you for an hour with just 1 LD.

Had experienced a 9/10 who rejected anything other than deadfish straight sex with minimum contact.

To.

A 4/10,20 yr old who offered to go LT with me for 2.5 k. When she was in my room she told me I could do anything to her, treat her as a sex slave and all she wants was to make me feel good and happy. I could also keep her with me up to 24 h. But I let her go after lunch the next afternoon. She wasn't really experienced in this, even though she was very willing.

I would prefer to take the 2nd one any day, even if both cost the same.

First timer in this part of the world, getting oriented. I booked my first two nights near Patpong. I was dimly aware that it is far past its prime but figured I would start at the beginning. Hey, the museum is cool.

Turns out a red-blooded heterosexual male can still find options for a good time in Patpong. There were three or four go gos open, with the girl to guy ratio highly favorable. I settled in at the Strip 2.0 at the Silom end of PP2 where a party atmosphere was in full swing. There were a dozen cuties twerking their little butts off. Mamasan presented me a lineup of about five girls, all worthy in my opinion. I settled on the talk, dark beauty, Om. I won't go into the money I threw around in my newbie excitement, but Mamasan told me I could have boom boom with Om right there in the booth with the curtains drawn. Yeah, I paid 4400 THB to bang an Isaan beauty with people sitting just across the stage and walking by inches away.

The next night, still jet-lagged, I slept through prime time and showed up around midnight. Sometimes the tuk tuk drivers really are helpful, and one guided me to M-nine on the second level above French Kiss. M-nine is a pleasant, small speakeasy that stays open all night. It is owned and operated by the tiny and fiercely beautiful M, who keeps a stable of about five cute girls. They have a facebook page with current pictures. I took young "Bil" back to my room for ST, and she was sweet as pie.

On to Soi 11. First night here I couldn't gain any traction, but I'm old and not used to the pace.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2670868]Thank you. I think you and MonkeyPaw just instantly make the site so much more useful.[/QUOTE]From the man, the myth, the legend.

1. Ignore the number ratings.

2. Review the reviewers.

3. Learn to read code and between the lines.

4. Pic are worth 1000's.

Score was 9/10/10.

"Went up to the room and saw the hotel maid outside the hallway. She smiled. Maybe because she skipped the room? Open the door. It's so sweet. It's like a box of chocolates. My eye poP at the sexiness. Too bad I only booked 40 minutes. No time for a massage with my Olive Oil. Japanese brothers will like the geisha doll, with the make up style and all. This one is a screamer and can take big and long size. She is tight and accommodating. Menu is extensive if you still have the appetite. Yesterday was day of rest for me to recharge my battery. Today I needed a good drain. Do you know which battery is top in popularity? Thank you very much Team Madam88888. I happy to take one."

1. "Maid skipped room" means messy and dirty room.

2. "Like box of chocolates" means never know what you will get, which is highly bait and switch.

3. "eye pop and Olive Oil" means way too skinny.

4. "Geisha make up style" means too much heavy make up.

5. "Battery top in popularity" means double A, non existent tits.

6. "Team Madam88888. I happy to take one" means taking one for the team.

The online game is against the girls, the agents, agencies, other reviewers, and the admins of the sites, when money and fees are involved. It takes a shit load brains, game, and smarts to succeed.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2669941]Yes, she does tend to stand away from the other girls. She is in her late 20's, but reminds me of a young, sexy Kim Hae Soo. I highly recommend, especially at that no haggle rate.

I saw that Japanese looking girl at Thermae again last night. Man, she is popular. I saw her taken for ST 3 times in the span of a couple hours a few nights ago. That time, she quoted 6 k for LT. Last night, I got there late and she quoted me 5 k for LT, still 2. 5 k for ST. But she only allows 2 pops and no DFK. So it's a big no for me. She usually doesn't wear a mask and looks better than lots of Japanese porn stars.[/QUOTE]I took her out and she is a real trooper. I was having a hard time because after a week of nuru, soapies, freelancers, I was getting wiped out but she got the job done. She is definitely more experienced and better service than the average Thermae girl. Thanks for the recommendation.

Lots and lots of ladies, not so many guys at Nana today (Saturday). Met up with EihTooms again. Neither of us had plans to barfine, as we both punted the previous night. He showed me a couple nifty tips and tricks.

[B]Tips and Tricks[/B]

Get the BKK Fun Card. They used to charge 200 B for it. It's now free and good forever. You get 10% off food and alcohol at their restaurants like Stumble Inn, Nana beer garden, Big Dog, Oasis at Soi Cowboy, and a couple other places. It can be obtained from those places. Just ask the waitress. They have 50% off appetizers tonight, so I'll probably partake.

Many veterans probably already know this but you can walk directly from the Asok (Terminal 21) skywalk, up the ramp into the Interchange building, make a right, take the escalators down, and make an exit onto Soi 23, very close to Crazy House. This is a big help for me because I dread that walk outside in this humidity and heat. I've made this walk probably 10 times without this shortcut.

[B]Nana[/B]

There were lots of ladies there by 7 PM, with more coming around 8 PM. We sat down at the Nana beer garden for some chow while we looked at the ladies passing by. Their burger is surprisingly good! If you want a decent burger, I recommend getting the gourmet cheeseburger with a fried egg. After eating and watching ladies pass by, we decide to check out some of the gogo bars. I counted as we were getting up that there were 6 guys and 30 ladies at Lollipop.

We walked through Rainbow 4&5 and Whiskey. Rainbow had a handful of 8's, but were quoting 3 k ST and 6 k LT so I didn't feel like buying LDs. Walked over to Whiskey & Gogo and noticed about 10 ladies and 1 guy. Some of the ladies were very cute, about a 7. 5. Wouldn't normally have sat, but I honestly felt a little bad that business was so slow. We went inside, got our drinks and got a LD for each of our partners. It wasn't crazy sensual, but my girl quoted 3 k ST. I thought that was high, but she said she'd stay for 3-4 hrs and it's unlimited shots. That's actually a good bargain for me. So I got her line and would contact her later on. After about half an HR, things started to pick up at the bar (approx 9 guys including us) and I didn't feel as bad for them anymore.

We left Nana, passed by a couple BJ bars, and to Thermae. I'll definitely check out the BJ bar later. There were a couple cuties I want to try.

The pic I uploaded for reference (dunno why it's showing sideways) is the advertisement for their BKK fun card posted in front of Stumble Inn at Nana.

What a lovely girl to wake up to.

I decided to treat her and took her to Landmark's fancy coffee shop and we had coffee and pastries. I don't think she'd ever been in a place like it, judging by the number of photos and videos she took on her phone.

At one point she started a video call and surprised me by sitting next to me and inviting me to say Hello, to her sister and then her ancient looking gran, who smiled and waved at me. I got the impression G was showing me off. I managed to film a video of her chatting to her sister and sent it to my friend Owen, who speaks Thai, to find out what she was giggling about. Apparently G was telling her sister I couldn't speak Thai but she liked me because I have a nice smile. I like this girl more and more!

I spent the afternoon visiting the impressive what Po and what Arun. Outside Sanam Chai MRT station a man told me what Po was closed for prayer but luckily for me he knew a standing Buddha he could take me to nearby instead. It's a common scam to get a fare. Never believe a taxi driver if he tells you something is closed!

Unfortunately the evening was a write-off. I had hoped to go back to Nana Plaza and visit some different bars but I only visited two before I started to get an upset stomach.

I started the evening by wandering up and down soi 4 to gauge the freelance talent. I find it exciting. A bit of a lucky dip so to speak. But I didn't see one that I wanted to pursue. I saw an old gent sheepishly following a very tall ladyboy down an alley.

Lollipop in Nana Plaza was my first choice of bar for the night. The younger girls were lavishing attention on a silver fox who a waitress told me was a regular and often splashed out on multiple lady-drinks. The waitress looked like the actress Lucy Lui and was half Filipino. She asked me for a ladydrink but the price is 195 so I politely declined and gave her a small tip as a gesture when I paid my bill.

I went up the stairs alongside Lollipop and was tempted in to Random by some pretty girls outside. And hallelujah, there were ten girls dancing on stage. They weren't wearing bikinis but their outfits were sexy and at least I finally had something to look at. It was like the old days! I was tempted by a fair-haired girl in a sexy red outfit but a man sat nearby beat me to it. The other outstanding girl was tall with very dark, Amazonian skin and long pigtails. But she looked bored which put me off.

I would have invited a girl down from the stage but I felt ill. Earlier in the day I had lunch at a nice restaurant overlooking the Chao Phraya but I knew my tom yam soup disagreed with me when my stomach started growling shortly after.

I went back to my room and got a video call from my friend Owen. He's a veteran of many Thailand trips and recommended buying either a bottle of white rabbit or some charcoal pills from a pharmacy. When we finished chatting I went straight down to the little pharmacy opposite Nana Plaza and bought both.

Next day I felt much better and enjoyed a day trip to Ayutthaya. It's about an hour away from Bangkok by train (to get there go to Bang Sue station) and is extremely impressive if you like your ancient crumbling ruins.

I got back to my hotel at 7 pm, had a much-needed shower and ate at a restaurant on soi 4.

My plan tonight was simple. I wanted to bar-fine a sexy girl from Nana Plaza as soon as possible to give myself time to fuck another girl later. I wanted to make up for the girl-free night the night before.

But it ended up being another bad experience.

I went to Witchcraft on the ground floor and was swarmed by five eager young girls. I bought a drink for a really cute 18 year old girl who had a lively personality and decided to bar-fine her. No messing around! Normally I like to enjoy a night out visiting lots of bars but I was on a mission tonight. She quoted 3000 baht short-time, like every girl I've spoken to at Nana Plaza, but she accepted my 2000 + 500 counter-offer. Off we went to my hotel.

In my room she noticed I had a puzzle book, which I always bring with me on my travels to while away time at airports. She started a wordsearch, so I lay next to her on the bed and we did the puzzle together. I dropped subtle hints we could shower but all she wanted to do was play puzzles! I sensed I had bar-fined another girl fresh to the business, so I didn't rush her.

But then she said 'time up, I go now'! I could see she was nervous to hear my reaction.

'But we only play puzzles' I said with a smile.

There was an awkward silence before I decided to do the right thing. 'If you want to go, you can go' I said. Some people see these girls only as prostitutes but I see the person too, and this girl. Only 18 - was clearly not ready for the bargirl lifestyle. I will never force a girl in to having sex with me.

Suddenly there was a transformation in her demeanour. She visibly relaxed and started showing me cute photos of animals on her Facebook page. She was laughing and enjoying herself. After 45 minutes she got up, put her shoes on and said 'I go now'. We hugged at the door and she disappeared in to the night. Absolutely nothing had happened for about two and a half hours except puzzles and animal memes!

I've replayed the way events unfolded in my head a number of times and I'm keen to hear your opinions.

Some will say I overpaid because I effectively wrote off the 600 baht bar-fine. The way I saw it, she stayed in my room for two hours and despite the fact we didn't have sex, I enjoyed our time together. Her chunk of the bar-fine I paid would compensate her for drinks she missed out on by being with me.

But others would say I underpaid. When we bar-fine girls we do not have a legally binding contact to have sex with them. We're paying them for their time and she stayed in my room for over two hours. I'm sure some of you will think I should have paid the 2000 we agreed in the bar.

The fact the girl happily left without asking for money suggests to me I did the right thing.

It was 10.30 and I wasn't having a second girl-free night in a row. I rushed down to soi 4 and had the familiar adrenaline rush I get when I know I'm about to meet a girl on the street I'll be fucking ten minutes later. I get a kick out of street action.

The younger girls usually hang out at the entrance to Nana Hotel. Ladyboys linger on the opposite side of the road, directly in front of Nana Plaza. I turned right out of Nana Hotel and walked a few hundred meters up the road but only saw older girls and a pretty ladyboy sat on a motorbike. I crossed the road and walked back towards Sukhumvit. There are a few promising looking massage places on this stretch but I didn't have time for that.

Just before I reached Nana Plaza I saw my girl. She had an exquisite face and was wearing an elegant floral dress on. I'd guess she was 30 but she was easily pretty enough to be treading the stages of the gogo bars. She was probably the most beautiful freelancer I've seen.

I said Hello, and after a brief chat asked her how much. 1500 for short-time was the reply. She quickly accepted my offer of 1000 plus tip and we walked hand-in-hand back to my room.

The sex was great. I got rock hard just by kissing her and it was a passionate encounter. She rode me to a climax, the bright lights of Bangkok glimmering through the window.

A good ending to frustrating few days.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2670711]Great report! But for the record, what is now Rainbow 5 used to be Twister (differentiated from Twister BKK, which is downstairs). Twister sold their second floor bar to the Rainbow group and opened a bar on Soi 7. Rainbow 4 is still there, where it always was on the second floor (next to Rainbow 5)[/QUOTE]Actually, SirLancelot is correct. That large double space used to be Rainbow 4, before moving to current spot against back wall by staircase. Twister took over the space then. Now, it is back to Rainbow group as #5. Not sure why they didn't recycle the lower numbers, I. E. 1, 2, 3.

And, before all the go-go bars, it was the famous Woodstock Bar, where I met a few insightful and helpful expats, introducing me to LOS nitelife.

Seeko.

[QUOTE=Seeko;2671140]Actually, SirLancelot is correct. That large double space used to be Rainbow 4, before moving to current spot against back wall by staircase. Twister took over the space then. Now, it is back to Rainbow group as #5. Not sure why they didn't recycle the lower numbers, I. E. 1, 2, 3.

And, before all the go-go bars, it was the famous Woodstock Bar, where I met a few insightful and helpful expats, introducing me to LOS nitelife.[/QUOTE]Ha, I bet I met you back then: the good old days of Stickman and the old Sanuk forum, the beer bars down by the tracks, the Russian girls at the Grace, 40 baht to the dollar, ah memories, memories. Back then, you could even eat at Yong Lee (is it still there?

Things didn't pan out with the girl from Whiskey gogo bar who said she'd meet up before work. Didn't hear back until she said she'd have to go in and asked if I could come in and barfine her. I declined.

Instead, I decided to check out Wood bar on Soi 7/1 again. I took a mild liking to Tata. She was attractive enough with her short hair. There was another girl I actually wanted to see, Ee. But she'd already left for the day. Tata did a great job. She wanted to upsell me on some CFS, but I just came for the BJ so declined her 1 k offer. Price was 700.

The BBBJ shop is much better than what I remember from my previous trip. The ladies were much better looking. I'd consider Tata a 6. 5-7 and Ee a 7-7. 5. I'd definitely consider Wood Bar a decent option in case of emergencies.

[QUOTE=Seeko;2671140]Actually, SirLancelot is correct. That large double space used to be Rainbow 4, before moving to current spot against back wall by staircase. Twister took over the space then. Now, it is back to Rainbow group as #5. ....[/QUOTE]Twister on the second floor is owned by Rainbow group. Originally this is the location of Rainbow 4. Rainbow 4 was raided for underage girls. They moved Rainbow 4 overnight. Rainbow 4 was briefly named Rainbow 5 at one point. The place is switched with a ladyboy bar. The business wasn't good so they replaced it with Twister. Maybe they change name because they want to avoid the confusion with Twister BBK on the first floor. The Twister BBK owner bought the bar from Bangkok Bunnies and rename it.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2670995]Special thanks to EihTooms for showing a couple of us around town. I'm wondering if the BBFS was possible thanks to his intro. I've had a couple successful BBFS in the past. But it was more the exception than the rule. Hopefully, this will change. This was also why I tipped the mamasan, so she can hook it up if there are more cute BBFS ladies in the shop.

[B]Wrapping things up[/B]

In summary, I think Nana has the best selection right now. Thermae has some good bargains, too, at 4 k LT for girls I would rate as an 8 face, 9 body. 2 k-2. 5 k seems to be the standard ST rate. And 4 k-6 k seems to be the standard LT rate. The LT will drop to 4 k-5 k at around 10 PM, as these businesses are supposed to close at 11 PM. Soi 7 has a large selection, although the average looks is below what Thermae and Nana have to offer. But there are a few hidden gems. One's so hidden, I haven't seen her since that first visit.[/QUOTE]Hey, SinfullyKorean, it was fun exploring around town with you. I hope our island hopping friend is doing well. I will employ your "ask how much on a night when you're probably not taking a girl anyway, walk away, then hit her up again on a night when you are interested in taking a girl" tip and trick for reducing those asking prices at Thermae and such, if I have properly characterized it. If not, let me know. Good idea. As you know, I am more interested in adding a particular service that isn't usually on the menu rather than reducing the asking prices. And on that mission, I find hitting them with what I would want in exchange for their quote or near their asking price right away upfront when I am ready to "buy" works best for me. But no reason not to employ both approaches if the timing is right!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2671207]Things didn't pan out with the girl from Whiskey gogo bar who said she'd meet up before work. Didn't hear back until she said she'd have to go in and asked if I could come in and barfine her. I declined.

Instead, I decided to check out Wood bar on Soi 7/1 again. I took a mild liking to Tata. She was attractive enough with her short hair. There was another girl I actually wanted to see, Ee. But she'd already left for the day. Tata did a great job. She wanted to upsell me on some CFS, but I just came for the BJ so declined her 1 k offer. Price was 700.

The BBBJ shop is much better than what I remember from my previous trip. The ladies were much better looking. I'd consider Tata a 6. 5-7 and Ee a 7-7. 5. I'd definitely consider Wood Bar a decent option in case of emergencies.[/QUOTE]For the original Dr. BJ's Salon old-timers out there, Ee is the tall, siliconed, more attractive than most others Super Star girl who was working there up until about 6 years ago. She had definitely banked a ton of baht after being the number one go-to girl there for a couple of years. But, six years and a major Covid Pandemic hit later, she's back for now. Personally, I always thought she stopped about 2 long, slow finishing up strokes too soon to be considered a real Star at the service. And she would improve on that if I mentioned it upfront before she began. But if I didn't mention it upfront, she'd "forget. " Anyway, SK, I am looking forward to whatever you find out about her these days. I might head over there to re-visit her again myself soon.

I popped back into Lollipop last night, sat with the little one that you saw sitting with me that first night, bought her a drink to see if sitting next to her again, placing my hand on her leg and so on would make me feel inspired to take her since the advertising had been so promising. But, no. I just wasn't feeling it.

Went upstairs to Rainbow 5. There were fewer girls there this time but still several very cute ones. Maybe 4 customers in the place at about 9 PM. I was getting a big smile from a lovely one sitting next to the stage. So, after a bit of joking and fun with the server and mamasan who recognized me from many times before, I gestured to buy her a LD and she acted like she couldn't believe I wanted to buy her one. Very excited and happy about it. We adjourned to a quieter side booth. She seemed thrilled that I could speak some general Thai language and phrases, being able to chit chat about our names, where we're from and so on in Thai. However, after the LD arrived, she was all about checking her Line messages and whatever else on her phone, no cuddling, no response to my placing a hand on her leg, whatever. After about 5 minutes of that, I told her she was so busy on her phone, I'm going. I paid the check bin, walked out and made a point to tell the mamasan that girl is too busy on her phone, bye.

As usual after I've done something like that in response to crap behavior or service with a girl, I think how lucky the next customer who chooses that girl is going to be! You're welcome, whoever that guy was. LOL.

Rode my motorbike over to Soi 7. Made the horseshoe cruise through the bars, fending of all the usual grasping and grabbing, girls trying to entice, well, force me to sit with them for an LD and more. Then a slim, light skin, cute one I'd seen in the line up at Thermae a few times in the past caught my eye and my attention. I decided to sit at her bar for a moment. Right away there was some cuddling and neck sniff-kissing with her. So I asked if she barfined. Yes.

She quoted 3,000 for ST and she doesn't like LT. Since she mentioned how much without my asking, I went for it too; kissing on our lips with tongues touching? Yes. Shaved here (pointing slightly to her pussy), like me to kiss kiss there? Yes. Boom boom no condom, ok mai? Major hesitation, non-committal. But she was ok for BBBJ+CIM. Then I bought her an LD while we both thought about it a little more. By the end of that one LD, her answer to my boom-boom no condom question was Yes and she was fine with 2,500 baht ST. Barfine was 600. Off we went back to my room.

Things went well, not great. I really do prefer Long Times for their lack of time pressure. It is a much more relaxed and therefore spontaneous experience for me, which works best for me these days. Almost immediately after entering my room she asked if I have Line and that she would be very happy to spend her holiday nights with me, no barfine, no LDs and she'll stay all night.

There has been a lot of discussion in the Pattaya Reports forum lately about the value or not of buying LadyDrinks for bargirls. There always seems to be more interesting P4 P philosophy discussions in that forum vs this one. But I'm not a Pattaya guy really so I can't speak from much experience over in that forum. Maybe Pattaya is totally different in certain ways. I much prefer Bangkok. Of course, I live in Bangkok, so that's one reason.

Anyway, I feel I learned quite a bit from the 2-3 LD purchases I made just last night; At the first bar stop I learned a girl whose promotion to me was very nice just wasn't doing it for me chemistry-wise while we shared a drink for 15 minutes or so. At the second bar stop I learned a lovely girl who came on with a big, inviting smile had no concept of service, behavior or attitude in exchange for money. My buying her an LD prompted her to do nothing but play on her phone. I have no doubt from past experience that if I'd just barfined and taken her based on my attraction to her and her big, inviting smile to me, there is no way any amount of money offered would have changed her attitude towards me or improved service to anything of value for me in the room.

And at my third bar stop that one 200 baht LD purchase converted a no answer, non-committal upfront response to my boom boom no condom question into a Yes and, in my judgement, her hardline 3,000 baht ST quote into a 2,500 baht agreement. And, once in the room, she's put a no barfine, no LD purchase Long Time with her on the table for me to enjoy on her days off. Which, from what I understand, can be just about any night I want. For me, those LD purchases last night were 600 baht well spent.

As always, YMMV.