Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2672517]My guess is that the girls you are going on a date with are freelance girls and although no money was mentioned they expected something to be given to them when they left.

If you had slipped 2000 (average to older girls) to 3000/4000 (younger prettier girls) in their purse when they were leaving I am sure you will get a positively cheerful response and they will be willing to come back anytime.[/QUOTE]Agree. But on the off chance that some were not exactly freelancers but regular Thai girls hoping to find a husband or long term support boyfriend, slipping 300-500 baht into their hand as a token gift "for taxi" would also be evidence that the guy isn't just looking for a free fuck.

He did say some of his presumed non P4P first dates did not conclude with a fuck but did on a second date.

I don't think I would recommend slipping 2000-4000 baht into the purse or hand of a girl who just had dinner and a movie with me but refused or resisted having sex on that first date. I would assume those girls are not exactly freelancers.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2672455]This is a question about non-pay-for-play Thai girls in BKK. I like to source a nice girl from TF and take her on a date which almost always leads to sex. I like Thai girls because they are pretty enthusiastic to fuck by the second or even the first date. On several occasions after a first date fuck, the girl leaves happy and I message her the morning to check in, and seek to set up another date. This is when she turns cold as ice. The cheerful attitude is replaced with a cold tone, complaining and few details about what the problem might be! To be clear, this is not due to some ungentlemanly behaviour on my part!

Has anyone encountered this, and if so, what explains the chance of heart? Usually Thai girls are keep to discuss a long term relationship and, of course, "my rent is due", but sometimes, I get the cold shoulder the next day.[/QUOTE]Thaifriendly has become 95%+ working girls. They may be nice girls but they are working. While yes she should be upfront about it, you also should know better.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2671906]Hey,

Thanks. I don't recall seeing that Chats-Back Up and Restore option in Line Settings the last time I changed phones and transferred my Line account. But that has been a few years.[/QUOTE]I think the post generalizes it. It probably is only for the same type of phones. Some apps are easy, some are difficult or not possible if you switch between Android and iPhone.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2672571]I think the post generalizes it. It probably is only for the same type of phones. Some apps are easy, some are difficult or not possible if you switch between Android and iPhone.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would still take screenshots of important photos and conversation pages and send them to a photo storage app before I delete my Line account from a phone to transfer it to another phone, just to be sure. Imo, Line is not all that reliable about certain things. I know Thai girls who are whizzes at everything you can do on Line that still cry over lost photos and such whenever they get a new phone. Which some do every 6 months it seems.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2672523]Agree. But on the off chance that some were not exactly freelancers but regular Thai girls hoping to find a husband or long term support boyfriend, slipping 300-500 baht into their hand as a token gift "for taxi" would also be evidence that the guy isn't just looking for a free fuck.

He did say some of his presumed non P4P first dates did not conclude with a fuck but did on a second date.

I don't think I would recommend slipping 2000-4000 baht into the purse or hand of a girl who just had dinner and a movie with me but refused or resisted having sex on that first date. I would assume those girls are not exactly freelancers.[/QUOTE]You are probably right in that 2 to 4 k may be a bit much. It all depends on the type of girl is he generally finds he is with. My type would definitely want 3 k to 4 k long term, but I prefer quality over quantity.

Girls that did not put out on first date may lean towards more non P4 P group and would probably be ok for very little.

Girls that put out fairly easily on the first date and are younger and prettier are most likely freelances and expect a decent amount.

I would suggest that he asks the next 2 or 3 directly what they expect before he has sex with them. Then use that as a basis for moving forward. Once he works out a rate that his targeted group is happy with he would not need to mention rates going forward. Just slip that amount into the purse in the morning. The amount of call backs you get will go from 0 to 90%.

Best advice I got as a new tourist 10 years ago that still applies today if you're unsure she's working or not just leave 2000 near her bag in the morning, and don't say anything. Sometimes a girl will confirm its for her, some will just quietly take it. No one is complaining as a freelancer getting 2000 when no money was brought up beforehand. And of course none will just leave it there because 99% of the time if you're unsure that means they are in the game.

Anyone who have visited Bangkok (in the "before times") knows that BKK city traffic is / was notoriously bad. So bad, it impedes you ability to get around town.

How is traffic nowadays?

Bangkok sounds like it is opening up again; but it also seems like it is still not as congested as it was before. I might be tempted to visit before things get hectic again. (When I travel, I go for tourism first. I might hobby if I still have the energy.).

Thanks for the feedback.

[QUOTE=Qeast2;2673029]Anyone who have visited Bangkok (in the "before times") knows that BKK city traffic is / was notoriously bad. So bad, it impedes you ability to get around town.

How is traffic nowadays?

Bangkok sounds like it is opening up again; but it also seems like it is still not as congested as it was before. I might be tempted to visit before things get hectic again. (When I travel, I go for tourism first. I might hobby if I still have the energy.).

Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]The lower Sukhumvit Road area traffic can be quite heavy and jammed during morning and evening rush hour times. Traveling along that road by car to and from the bars on Friday nights can be a pain. The same can often be said for the major streets that cross Sukhumvit like Asoke where Soi Cowboy is located, Wireless Road at Central Embassy mall and Ratchathewi where Central World mall is located.

But I don't think traffic is quite as bad as it was during pre Covid times.

[QUOTE=Qeast2;2673029]Anyone who have visited Bangkok (in the "before times") knows that BKK city traffic is / was notoriously bad. So bad, it impedes you ability to get around town.

How is traffic nowadays?

Bangkok sounds like it is opening up again; but it also seems like it is still not as congested as it was before. I might be tempted to visit before things get hectic again. (When I travel, I go for tourism first. I might hobby if I still have the energy.).

Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]Traffic is all right in Sukhumvit area. Just avoid rush hours between 6-8 pm for now.

[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2673135]Traffic is all right in Sukhumvit area. Just avoid rush hours between 6-8 pm for now.[/QUOTE]Has Insanity re opened after being busted in December? How about the other nightclubs? Which of the ones that have lots of freelancers are currently open? I apologize if this has been covered recently, but I fail to see it mentioned here in the last few weeks.

I actually prefer to get my night time company from ThaiFriendly, but my wing man is addicted to picking up freelancers at disco-type bars. Despite being retirement age, he actually loves electronic dance music (and long sessions of sex going to 3-4 am!

[QUOTE=LookingLooking;2673135]Traffic is all right in Sukhumvit area. Just avoid rush hours between 6-8 pm for now.[/QUOTE]But believe it or not BTS has seats available most of the time. And no long lines at Siam or Asoke.

[QUOTE=TConor;2673637]But believe it or not BTS has seats available most of the time. And no long lines at Siam or Asoke.[/QUOTE]Ya BTS is not crowded in covid era.

After 8 pm, traffic is smooth in suk area. Unlike pre covid days where the jam lasts till 11 pm.

An update for anyone coming to Bangkok at the moment. There are a number of GoGo's open in Bangkok now, however they don't operate like they did in the past.

Due to regulations the girls are not meant to be in Bikinis and are not meant to dance. So you will see a lot of nearly fully clothed women hanging around. Very much unlike the fun that could be had pre covid.

Add this to the much smaller amount of girls in each Gogo and that only 1/4 of clubs are open all equates to a much less fun experience.

So if you are coming to BKK don't expect too much.

Disclaimer: You will see the occasional club ignore the rules for a night or two, if you do see this it is really a bonus and probably not going to stay like that. For example one night we went to 1 Gogo and the girls were practically naked, the very next night they were all fully clothed again and looking bored. Nothing is the same.

[QUOTE=Seeko;2671140]... Not sure why they didn't recycle the lower numbers, I. E. 1, 2, 3...
[/QUOTE]The bar that used to be 'Enter' on the 3rd floor is now Rainbow 3. I wonder what they have in mind for 1 and 2?

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2673677]...Due to regulations the girls are not meant to be in Bikinis and are not meant to dance. So you will see a lot of nearly fully clothed women hanging around... [/QUOTE]FWIW, in some clubs the girls wear see-through with bikini undergarments. Still not nude, but some progress.