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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2684083]Over the last 6 weeks I had 6 BBFSCIP sessions with professionals. Two were in massage places (don't remember the names) and four were street freelancers. I simply started a conversation and within about 30 seconds told them exactly what I wanted. Don't be shy, they have all heard it before. I find that about 30% accept BBFSCIP, but some charge a bit more money. Don't accept any girl who is wish washy regarding no condom. Two street freelancers were 1000 baht with no up charge for BB. One street freelancer normally charged 1000 baht but increased to 1500 baht for BB. Those 3 were all on Sukhumvit. The last street freelancer was from Soi 11 near the far end and she was much more expensive, I may have paid 2500 to 3000. She was a hottie.
If the girl doesn't have strong English skills, be sure to have your translation app ready to show her what you want in written and audio Thai.
I had one massage shop girl agree to BBFSCIP for 1000 on the street but as we walked in she needed another 500 for the house, I expected that. In the room she wanted the 1000 before starting (I foolishly gave it to her) and then she insisted on 1000 for sex and she started to waffle on the BB. That pissed me off so I stood up and started to get dressed to leave, full willing to get nothing for the 1500 already paid. She knew that I still had money in my pocket so she became more agreeable. Ended up agreeing to another 500 to be paid after BBFSCIP. The session was 2000 baht total, but very good performance. Moral of the story is it's OK to pay the house fee before, but give nothing else until after, which is normal in Thailand..[/QUOTE]Hope you are aware that the HIV prevalence amongst Bangkok streetwalker is about 25%. I add especially so for girls charging CIP 1000 Bahts. Venue based girls are much safer, my guts feeling would be that some of the TF girls could be too.
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Nana Plaza 2 years after
Hello Guys,
Two years since I didn't visit Thailand, covid stories and so, as I live in Hong Kong it's not difficult to go abroad but it's a damn mission to go back in.
I am in Thailand for 40 days will split between BKK and Pattaya.
Yesterday was my first day as a free man, and I went to Nana Plaza, I was wondering for a disaster but in fact, it was quite, fun, crowded, girls and client.
I would say up to 70% GOGO bars were open (the half of the opened are rainbows) first thing first I rushed to the billboard, I remember that they had quite good dancers and that the mood was very nice in this one, but it seems that the gogo did lost his magic. Not much girls, no dancing and many girls with Kilometers and plastic boobs:/ and no jacuzzi only the carousel.
The spanky's was quite good, girl with top off, shows every 30 minutes and so, then rainbows, 5 was packed as hell, 4 with a lot of "Japanese taste" girls, 2 and 3 was nice too.
Prices didn't changed much 600-700 BF, 3000ST, but drink prices can vary a lot, a Chang can be 120 thb in rainbow where it is 170 thb in billboard. I don't remember the lady drink price for others but at random (it's the name of the gogo) it was 200 baht, which is quite cheap from my souvenir (240-250 in others?
They didn't perform any kind of test at entrance nor ask for the application check, and I was not rushed at all for lady drinks or any double lady drinks coke tequila shit, from what I saw all the girls was really up for ST or going with client.
I read before in the thread that Nana was full of agency girls that was chasing drinks but yesterday I didn't had this feeling at all, it was like "old time" (2019 understand me looool). It's perhaps the Saturday effect.
Today I will check Soi cowboy, I would like to see the crazy house again and perhaps also check the king castle at patpong.
To answer on the current subject of subject I never did bareback with TF or gogo girls, it's too much risks to lose that pleasure we enjoy, have a friend that get's his dick burned every month because or barebacking a random girl in pattaya: I can understand still but it's too much a "Russian roullette" to me.
Wish you the best guys.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2683956]LOL. Yes, night to night, hour to hour, alright.
Even though they were all open last night, the Soi 7 bars are all closed tonight.
Nobody knows what's going on. TIT.[/QUOTE]What I have heard is that the bars will be closed for 2 weeks by the police. Looks like they had some underage girls working there.
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[QUOTE=Gabriel071;2683924]Personally not a fan of anal but if all is bareback that's gold.
I am going to Thailand in a few weeks and would appreciate any suggestions for bareback action. I've seen a few suggestions already but the information may be dated post-covid. Any websites for call girls or agencies? Any good massage locations?
How is BKK compared to Pattaya? I've been to BKK before and very fond memories. How does it compare to Cambodia, Vietnam or Phillipines? May take a detour along the way.
I'll be providing reports once my feet got the ground but need a good head start.[/QUOTE]In Tulip massage most of the women do everything BB. Not the model style girls but best performer maybe in town. The last girl I had from Sideline-Thailand had also no problem with CIP.
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Bangkok day 2
Day 1 in Bangkok was a farce, I arrived only in the late afternoon, and spent much of my time on TF, Line and Tinder, but to no avail. At night, I went to a shitty p, lonely MP, near Sukhumvit and negotiated massage and FS for 1 k. The massage was half hearted, and didn't last very long. The therapist was an older lady, but not too chubby. Just a hint of a tummy on her. It not very attractive, skin had pockmarks and she was either on the wrong side of her thirties, or early forties. Anyhow, with slight difficulty, I managed to get hard, and I fucked her in missionary and doggy. She had her hair in two fountains on either side of her rad, like one of those kawaii Japanese girls, but I didn't like it, so I pulled them out and freed her hair while I was doggying her. And then I pulled her by her hair into me with every thrust. Came in missionary in the condom, and exchanged Line details; she would be my backup.
Day 2 came along and I decided to go to Doki Doki. I read a few reports on the forum that mentioned Victoria, so I booked her in advance for one hour. I need some time between fuck sessions, so the one hour was adequate for one session. I arrived at the place, paid, and then laid my eyes on Victoria. She's a pretty little thing from the Isaan region. Wheatish complexion and full lips, she reminded of the girls back in my home country. We went upstairs, and she undressed to reveal a nice handful on her chest, which suited her somewhat petite frame. She had a fantastic ass in terms of its shape. We got comfortable around each other after introductions and a bit of small talk. The room is divided into a dry area for the bed, and a wet, tiled area for the air mattress and the nuru activities. She stripped me, going as far as to reach for my shoes to remove them. She asked me to lie down on the air mattress, and she bathed me very well, making sure to thoroughly clean all crevices. Soon, she got out the nuru gel, and got me on my back. She mixed the gel with hot water and started applying on my back, and herself. Soon, she was slipping and sliding all over my back, with various parts of her body. She had a very thorough routine that feels like she's been practicing for a while. She slides on you a hundred different ways, all done in a deliberative, unhurried manner. She slides on you latitudinally and longitudinally. Head first and feet first. On her back and on her front. I was particularly impressed by a couple of things she did, however. The first was the way she slides her pussy all across your back, and your legs, and the sides of your legs. Unbelievable stuff, I felt like I was in heaven. The most impressive feat however, was the manner in which she slid her mouth across the entirety of my back multiple times, finally culminating in an ethereal rimming session. And I'm a hairy guy. She also rubbed her nuru gel-lathered pussy against my hard, throbbing dick.
I got the same treatment on the flip, and instead of it culminating in rimming, it culminated in a wet and wild BBBJ. She also made a show of spitting out the gel from her mouth onto her sweet little tits! She started off at her own pace, but soon I was asking her to go faster and deeper. And she did. She asked me whether I would like to fuck now. I said no, I wanted to do that dry on the bed. So she rinsed me off and dried me with a fluffy towel. All of this was done with a sweet smile on her face.
Soon, we were dry and on the bed. I was taking my time exploring her body, when she reminded me that we only had ten minutes left. So she put on the condom and off we went to the races. Started off in missionary. She was moaning in a sexy manner, but I could tell that it was more fake than real. It wasn't your usual bored hooker grunt, though. She was good at making you think it was real. I hadn't had time to work on her, and at THB 2700 a pop, I wasn't really worried about her, I just wanted the best experience for myself. Switched to doggy, and worked on her from behind. Hard. She took it like a champ. She had used the nuru gel as a lube, and that allowed me to get deep inside her. Some of the moans were real. What these chicks don't realize is that if they use too much lube, then I don't feel an friction, actually, I don't feel anything. The combination of decreased sensitivity in the little head and decreased friction meant that I could go deep, and keep going. And I did. With the time at the back of my mind, I pumped faster into her, and finished in the condom. We both sighed and lay there for a few seconds, before we separated from each other. She helped get it off, and helped get me clean after. The entire ordeal was one of the best experiences of my life, and it was money well spent. The cherry on the icing is that she has a conversational hold on the English language, is very sweet, and extremely service oriented. 10/10, would recommend.
Walked back a bit after Doki Doki. There was a place near Silom, I believe where there were many Japanese themed bars and Karaoke bars. There were girls standing outside these clubs, but they were calling out and inviting specifically the Jap tourists who were walking along. Some of them actively tried to avoid my gaze. I didn't feel welcome there, so I kept walking. A few streets ahead was a cluster of sois that seemed to specialize in gay bars. There was a lot of action on the street, and the clubs inside were even more happening. Encouraging to see this stuff in Asia. However, I am under no disillusions, I understand that how the gay community is treated in Bangkok will be completely different from how they are treated in the rural areas.
Walked a bit in Patong, and the night market was gone, and so was the action on the streets. The clubs that were open had some activity in them, I'd say around 40 to 50% utilised. A girl tried to get me into Black Pagoda, but instead I took her to the bar inside the Patpong museum and bought her a drink there. Her English was worse than a normal Thai's so conversation was a little difficult in the beginning. She wasn't hot, but she was sweet. Perhaps a 7.5, perhaps even an 8.5 under the right lighting. Unfortunately, her numbers were way off, she said 900 thb for BF and 3 k for her time. Barfine to be paid till 2 am, which I thought was funny, since I knew all bars closed at 12. Perhaps she did say 12, and I mis-heard. Anyway, too much for me.
Walked to Soi Cowboy and noticed that the half of the street closer to T21 was alive and kicking, whereas the half away from it was depressingly dead.
BBD.
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[QUOTE=Khundig;2684276]In Tulip massage most of the women do everything BB. Not the model style girls but best performer maybe in town. The last girl I had from Sideline-Thailand had also no problem with CIP.[/QUOTE]Gruesome Girls is on display at Tulip.
What's the situation at Rainbow Bars. Saw the barmaid crew together in Rainbow 2 on a Facebook post. What goes on in there?
Can't imagine being busy without Asians in town.
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End of Test and Go?
I am reading unconfirmed (by the government) reports that Thailand is going to end Test and Go and will soon only require an antigen test at the airport. This can happen as soon as May. I'm am not going to book a Test and Go hotel until later this week because of this news.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-07/thailand-mulls-easing-covid-test-rules-for-vaccinated-visitors
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Bars in Soi 7
[QUOTE=Khundig;2684271]What I have heard is that the bars will be closed for 2 weeks by the police. Looks like they had some underage girls working there.[/QUOTE]Already reported by various media outlets, underage is one issue, which was raised by NGO and central government agency, so Lumphini cannot ignore and must take action to save face.
But, there are other underlying issues that the local officials cannot tolerate, such as employing illegals, inadequate Covid precautions, lack of business license, and improper use of the lot. Supposedly, the place is slated / permitted to be a car park. Not beer bars.
Of course, an eloquent lawyer can argue that the lot is set up to store vehicles, citing the roll-up garage doors. And, how the tenants make use of their space is not the responsibility of the land owners. The lessee can argue that there's nothing in the contract preventing usage as bars. So, then, it becomes a matter of greasing certain palms in regional bureaucracy to straighten out permits and licenses.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2683956]Even though they were all open last night, the Soi 7 bars are all closed tonight.[/QUOTE]Yes and no. Sure, the roll-up doors are down, but it's business as usual somewhat for the bars on the street front (Twister, Boss, Corner 7, Random at 7, and We For You). Just a change in set up, operating on the sly by skirting the closure order in the usual Thai ways, such as serving food. There is enough room on the sidewalk, so they set up tables and chairs, just like the temporary night bars along main Sukhumvit. There are plenty of bargirls to entice customers to sit and have a drink. And, of course, buy lady drinks; not sure if all will barfine.
No live / DJ music, no pool table, no actual bar, nor refrigerator, but cool beer will magically appear in front of you once ordered. Ok, kidding, no Harry Potter wand waving; they just bring it out from behind the garage doors. Just be aware that when the 11 pm, midnight, and 1 am police patrol rolls by, you need to stand up and pretend to be leaving, while the ladies stack the chairs. Then, promptly sit back down once the flashing redlights have moved on.
Now, why any respectable punter would want to hang out in open humidity, smelling exhaust fumes, garbage, and urine (while being eyeballed by nearby LB / katoey) is beyond the comprehension of my rational mind. I'd rather go to one of the "secret" after-hours indoor bars.
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[QUOTE=MomoFarang;2684177]Hope you are aware that the HIV prevalence amongst Bangkok streetwalker is about 25%. I add especially so for girls charging CIP 1000 Bahts. Venue based girls are much safer, my guts feeling would be that some of the TF girls could be too.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link to your source for that 25% figure?
There was a "survey" of sorts several years ago where they did not seem to differentiate between female and male / ladyboy street workers and it was far from a random sampling in that hookers who went to a clinic for HIV treatment were paid to go out and find more "respondents" for the survey from among their circle with promises of free treatment for them.
I would be quite surprised if 1 out of 4 female FLs we see on the street in the lower Sukhumvit area tested positive for HIV now or, frankly, ever.
And even if they did, transmission from a female streetwalker to a male customer must be somewhere between none and zero.
Seriously. There has been plenty of bareback going on all over the place every day and night for the past 40+ years but has anyone even met a punter or seen one interviewed who got HIV from a girl he had sex with without a hint of suggestion that the dude was also a wee bit into needle-related drug use and sometimes shared and just might have forgotten about those bb receptive anal sex parties he used to have with a LB or two or that irresistible male temp he met at the office a while back?
Not saying it is 100% impossible for a man to get HIV by putting his penis in a mouth, his mouth on a vagina, his penis into a vagina or into a butthole for that matter. Without a blatantly obvious co-factor like a gaping, open wound on his penis, that is.
But by now wouldn't we have shocking video clips of hospital wards filled with such unfortunate heterosexual holiday punters and expats here or in their home country telling their cautionary tales of terror?
But 40+ years into this virus, there isn't even one credible and verifiable report of anything like that happening.
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[QUOTE=Khundig;2684276]In Tulip massage most of the women do everything BB. Not the model style girls but best performer maybe in town. The last girl I had from Sideline-Thailand had also no problem with CIP.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I have heard from several Tulip customers over the years. I just wish you guys had explained that to the 4 different Tulip girls I finally convinced myself to try over the past 9 years. Not one of them was willing to go along with BBFS+CIP with me for any reasonable amount tip up to, say, 1000 baht more.
Probably just me I suppose.
Unless these "most" and "bb is standard service at Tulip" reports I have been hearing all these years has been one of those "if you repeat with the same girl 5-6 times" things I'm never going to do.
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[QUOTE=Seeko;2684482]Already reported by various media outlets, underage is one issue, which was raised by NGO and central government agency, so Lumphini cannot ignore and must take action to save face.
But, there are other underlying issues that the local officials cannot tolerate, such as employing illegals, inadequate Covid precautions, lack of business license, and improper use of the lot. Supposedly, the place is slated / permitted to be a car park. Not beer bars.
Of course, an eloquent lawyer can argue that the lot is set up to store vehicles, citing the roll-up garage doors. And, how the tenants make use of their space is not the responsibility of the land owners. The lessee can argue that there's nothing in the contract preventing usage as bars. So, then, it becomes a matter of greasing certain palms in regional bureaucracy to straighten out permits and licenses.
Yes and no. Sure, the roll-up doors are down, but it's business as usual somewhat for the bars on the street front (Twister, Boss, Corner 7, Random at 7, and We For You). Just a change in set up, operating on the sly by skirting the closure order in the usual Thai ways, such as serving food. There is enough room on the sidewalk, so they set up tables and chairs, just like the temporary night bars along main Sukhumvit. There are plenty of bargirls to entice customers to sit and have a drink. And, of course, buy lady drinks; not sure if all will barfine..[/QUOTE]The only people behind a couple of those roll up / down doors the time I passed by about 8:30 pm Saturday night was a bar owner or assistant telling me "our bar moved to Soi 11."
Maybe they were sneaking open on Soi 7 later in the night.
There was no sign of anything new or different about the open air bars on Soi 11 except perhaps 2-3 more girls in them for a Saturday night.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2684503]Yes, that's what I have heard from several Tulip customers over the years. I just wish you guys had explained that to the 4 different Tulip girls I finally convinced myself to try over the past 9 years. Not one of them was willing to go along with BBFS+CIP with me for any reasonable amount tip up to, say, 1000 baht more.
Probably just me I suppose.
Unless these "most" and "bb is standard service at Tulip" reports I have been hearing all these years has been one of those "if you repeat with the same girl 5-6 times" things I'm never going to do.[/QUOTE]Just my guess but it was probably the CIP that put them off. Pull out and pop on them would probably have been ok. Can't really blame a gal for not wanting a guy she doesn't know shooting in her.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2684503]Yes, that's what I have heard from several Tulip customers over the years. I just wish you guys had explained that to the 4 different Tulip girls I finally convinced myself to try over the past 9 years. Not one of them was willing to go along with BBFS+CIP with me for any reasonable amount tip up to, say, 1000 baht more.
Probably just me I suppose.
Unless these "most" and "bb is standard service at Tulip" reports I have been hearing all these years has been one of those "if you repeat with the same girl 5-6 times" things I'm never going to do.[/QUOTE]Well I have been there 3 times over the last 2 years with 3 different women and CIP was never an issue without paying any extras.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2684587]Just my guess but it was probably the CIP that put them off. Pull out and pop on them would probably have been ok. Can't really blame a gal for not wanting a guy she doesn't know shooting in her.[/QUOTE]Could be. But that rather critically different way to finish probably should not be omitted from so many testimonials that "BB" is standard at this or that venue or location. I realize there are references to BBFS and to BBFS+CIP and that they are not the same thing. But I don't think many if us assume most of the time when someone says "she was OK with bb" that meant he had to pull out and masturbate himself to a finish onto her stomach or something unless he explicitly says so. Well, I don't anyway.
I am reminded of the reports we have been getting about well known venerable Bangkok BJ Bars now possibly requiring the customer to specify upfront, "I will get a CIM finish, right"? Yeah, we have been referring to them as BJ Bars all these years but does that mean the new normal loophole for the latest providers is, hey buddy, nobody ever called them BBBJ+CIM Bars?
Also, I'm not familiar with any scientific research showing that a girl who gets pre cum or a first desperate shot of cum dribbling into her pussy is comfortably protected from getting pregnant or an STD from the guy. Has anyone so concerned about these things bothered to mention this to those girls? As if putting some stranger on the Honor System that he will of course pull out at the first inkling of an approaching orgasm will likely protect her from anything.
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[QUOTE=Khundig;2684590]Well I have been there 3 times over the last 2 years with 3 different women and CIP was never an issue without paying any extras.[/QUOTE]Yep, and I totally believe that about you. As I totally believe it about every fellow punter and big fan of the service level they get at Tulip who says the same thing.
Hey, then it's got to be me. Or those shops are just not for me.
The resistance and refusal I have gotten for BBFS+CIP at Tulip or for even mere BB / No Condom if that is supposed to make a big difference since I don't recall ever going as far as to specify "CIP" on the subject at Tulip or other shops is no less than the resistance and refusal I have gotten for it at all the other dozens of massage shops or happy ending shops I have visited in the past 9 plus years; "No, nope, nada and oh did I mention NO"?
Oh well. I guess I'll just stick to the cute 20-something go-go dancers / beer bar girls and 18 year old freebies I find on Tinder for my BBFS+CIP experiences. Hehe.